“Is Morality Possible Without God? Heated Debate with Angry Atheist Student | Cliffe Knechtle”

[@123lowp]

Morality is a behavioral instinct that evolves in social species. Done.

[@gregharn1]

Of course morality is possible without god. Its as simple as the Golden Rule or "does saying or doing x hurt myself or others, either immediately or down the line?" That's why Native Americans have a saying "take care with your actions bc they will be felt 7 generations later". The true irony of this guy's "debates" is that if you really examine Christianity, its highly highly derivative of everything that came before. The helpful texts build directly off of Egyptian & Sumerian wisdom texts. All scripture is just a marketing tool to entice new followers from preestablished religions.

[@Helibenone]

You absolutely can have morals without god, and moral relativism simply means, that each person has their own set of morals. Now Most people think killing is wrong, and helping people in need is good. This does not make it objectively good or bad to help or kill, but most people will see it as good or bad, since they have the same set of morals. Furthermore a society with better morals (evolutionary speaking) will more likely stand the test of time.

[@apezilla7232]

What holds someone to their morals? It’s obvious we do things we don’t agree with, I think having a mindset of accountability is what is important, which Jesus gives you especially when you take him whole heartedly, he also lays out what is right and wrong and how you can repent and turn because the lord knows we can’t do it on our own.

[@Helibenone]

@@apezilla7232 society for instance if you kill people, you get put in prison. But even smaller stuff like walking around insulting people which is not illegal, would make people distance themselves from you. Now your second point of doing something we dont agree with. What exactly do you mean is it stuff like procrastination, lazyness or other things we know we shouldnt or what do you mean?

[@SaberRiryi]

​@@apezilla7232We did do it on our own. We did it for the hundred thousand years of human civilization that passed prior to any of the current major religions popping up. We held ourselves accountable. We created laws. We debated how best to live. We worked to create civil societies and we succeeded. We weren't perfect since it takes time to develop ideas on philosophy, mortality, etc. But let's not pretend humans were incapable of working amongst themselves to talk about morality prior Christian mythology showing up. The absolute arrogance of a statement like that. "No one knew right from wrong before us Christians showed up!" Give me a break...

[@schnitzelhd3844]

@@apezilla7232most of us just feel it, we don't need to read a holy book to sense that hurting someone isn't a good thing to do. Now you can say that this feeling is caused by our soul, which is crested by God and fine, but I can also not believe in a god and be comfortable with what I understand as wrong or right. I like the thought of discovering how someone should behave, rather then it being given and there being no option of questioning what is wrong or right.

[@AtamMardes]

♦"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." ♦"Only fools revere the supernatural bs just bc a book claims it's the holy truth." ♦"Religion is founded on the fear & gullibility of many & the cleverness of few." ♦"The delusional religious are cocksure & the intelligent full of doubt." ♦"The religious believe by the millions what only lunatics may believe on their own." ♦"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled." ♦"It's difficult to free the religious from the chains they revere." ♦“To have faith is precisely to lose one's mind so as to win God.” ♦"The death of dogma is the birth of morality." ♦"Religion fools many bc the brain is susceptible to hallucination & gullibility."

[@Chidds]

It's like Cliffe is only just beginning to comprehend the concept of objectivity and subjectivity. Clearly, he has an issue acknowledging the world may not ultimately reflect his narrow beliefs. But then he projects his insecurity onto others. Why should I care that my view of morality is meaningless on a cosmic scale? My moral interactions occur with other people who live and work around me, not photons beyond the cosmic light horizon.

[@Clzbible]

What bible verse is your favorite?

[@oddball9050]

Romans 8:18

[@NoobyproRTL_2.0]

John 14:6

[@SaberRiryi]

All the ones where god commanded women and children to slaughtered. And for animals to be tortured. What a cool guy.

[@DLGanimator]

Real good man, love it

[@KamrenMCOC]

What an idiotic question. Obviously yes

[@Clzbible]

Whats your thoughts on this?

[@Clzbible]

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[@oddball9050]

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