Is my ring really Titanium?

[@PatriotCoinRings]

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[@Thashiznitov1]

My right ear enjoyed this.

[@PatriotCoinRings]

My mic was probably only pushed half way in...lol Oh well

[@namis1799]

Thank you for this amazing video, I just placed an order for a Titanium ring which costed me quite a lot. Will try atleast the first test once I pick it up. Very helpful video. Cheers!

[@PatriotCoinRings]

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[@s.k.80]

Hello Sir, is there a way to make a titanium ring silver or almost white? similar to palladium or platinum? i have searched the whole internet without success and would be really grateful if you have an answer.

[@PatriotCoinRings]

I higher tin content in the titanium results in a brighter silver for sure but to make it that whitish silver look we would need to plate the titanium which yes, can be done to some rings although titanium admittedly isn't the best material to adhere to without a base and barrier metal plating first. Then you just plate platinum, white gold or your choice of precious metal direct. If you would like to discuss the idea of a custom ring being made further, simply go to www.PatriotCoinRings.com and message me there direct where we can discuss your needs further. Thanks, Michael

[@blender_unleashed]

That intro was something else

[@PatriotCoinRings]

LOL... Thanks

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[@TON-vz3pe]

Awesome video.

[@deamoore120]

Love this video and thank you. I wanted to purchase a titanium Batman ring but I don't think it is real. Do you make custom rings?

[@PatriotCoinRings]

@Dea Moore Hello Dea, thanks for the chuckle. Yes, I do make custom rings all the time and making a Batman ring for you or something wouldn't be a problem. Actually I've been only recently hit with all kinds of requests for DC and Marvel Comics. I've made Spiderman inspired rings, Green Lantern, Spawn, Red Lantern and most recently had this customer have me design this Captain America ring www.etsy.com/listing/784786222/custom-designed-ring-order-for-kaitlin?ref=shop_home_active_4&frs=1 Of course this is just a concept drawing in the ad but you'll find it available soon online as I've just finished it and it came out incredible. Of course I will make any kind of customized ring according to my customers specs from comic to high fashion and would love to hear from you on your idea. Simply go to www.PatriotCoinRings.com and message me there on my website to describe what you are looking for. If you have no idea other than maybe a theme ie. "something that would represent batman" we could start there and work through the details and draw up some concept designs you might be interested in, I'd love to hear from you 😎😍

[@roncoleman9502]

Thanks very informative. I.like a lot of others thought that it was so hard that wouldn't bend. I actually have some in my knee. Very good video. I learn something every time I watch one of these videos. You the man Mike keep it up

[@PatriotCoinRings]

The main reason most think its impossible is because most jewelers won't resize or work on stainless steel or titanium due to liability if it breaks because most jewerly shops don't have an oven that will peak upwards of 900F to do it, that and the fact it does wear on your tools pretty hard. I take it in a bit of a different way, I'm not so worried about the tools because I repair and resize enough bands that it more than pays for the replacement of my tools when needed and if done right, you shouldn't have to replace your tools like mandrel stretchers but once a year which is a lot compared to most that keep their mandrels for many years. Never the less, it makes money for our troops and it allows me the ability to offer a service for my customers few if any others are willing to do.

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[@SuperDutchman59]

take a titanium and write it on porcelain or glass, pressing hard, it writes like graphite, in black, if it doesn’t write, then it’s not titanium ..

[@PatriotCoinRings]

I've never heard of that one. So are you saying to take a titanium ring and to confirm it is titanium, scratch it against glass or porcelain and if it's written in black it is titanium but if it doesn't it's not? I'll need to try that and follow up with the results but sounds very interesting! Thanks for the tip!

[@MarcusVines]

Looks awesome! Can you make rings with a design in specific? Can you ship worldwide? Im from Guatemala! Great Job!!

[@PatriotCoinRings]

Hello Marcus, yes I do ship worldwide. What specifically were you looking for in design?

[@MarcusVines]

Thank for your fast response! I'm looking for a simple text like "The Boss". How much it will cost? I'm from Guatemala! If you could send me an email with more information i would appreciate a lot of! [e-mail]

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[@PatriotCoinRings]

@@MarcusVines Sorry Marcus, did you still want me to contact you. I only now saw your message from 9 months ago bud.

[@PatriotCoinRings]

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[@thepenultimateninja5797]

A couple of points: Firstly, austenitic grades of stainless steel are non-magnetic. These are the types most commonly used in jewelry (such as 316l) and thus your magnet test will give a false positive on most stainless steel jewelry. Secondly, heating the metal to form an oxide layer is not anodizing. Anodizing is an electrolytic process, where the object to be anodized is connected to the positive electrode, or 'anode' of the power supply. Thirdly, while titanium can be colored with heat, so can many other metals, including stainless steel. It's true that the colors are subtly different, and an experienced person can tell them apart, but an amateur likely wouldnt be able to. Two tests that would actually work to distinguish titanium from steel would be real anoziding (which doesn't work on steel) and calculating the density by measuring the mass and volume.

[@PatriotCoinRings]

Ummm, well there are over 350 grades of Stainless Steel and 50 grades of "designated" steel. This does not account for various manufacturers creating their own composition blend. Some are magnetic, some are not but to be clear, I'm addressing jeweler-grade alloys here in this video. As for anodizing in case you didn't watch the video all the way through, I did talk about electrochemical anodizing and provided charts along with the required voltage needed to achieve specific colors. I simply mentioned fire because yes, you can anodize with fire although it's not as effective but a good way for the beginner to play around and with enough experience, it's no problem achieving the same and even color desired with fire but then again I've been doing this for about 16 years so what seems simple to me may not be for others. Again, fire was just a mention for those who want an easy DIY without needing a voltmeter. Another way a DIY could go about it is with a car battery and some baking soda but your experience of not being successful in using fire alone is a welcome comment. I will say you'll find less damage or mistakes to the ring or item with the electrochemical process than fire but to this day, many of my rings are anodized with this method especially when I want to achieve rainbow effects. More to the point yet again, I was referencing jewelry or even more specifically, rings and there are really only 4 primary grades used for jewelry. For these, stainless steel isn't even a consideration for me when I anodize because titanium holds it's color far better and deeper into the metal but depending on the job and customer request, I use different methods. For most solid color bands I use electrochemical treatments while for rainbow blended colors, I typically use an annealing technique. It's not mainstream but the point was that most viewers on KZbin love DIY and I was sharing various methods which of course, access to using a simple propane torch is often easier than electrolysis and meeting the proper voltage, temperature, electrolyte density, and timing when you aren't sure of the grade of alloy you have thus the title of "how to tell if your titanium is real or not". It's a helpful tip for the novice and not meant for the experienced jeweler but I don't see any contradiction to what you said in comparison to what I said, I was just sharing some useful tips.

[@paducahandlouisvillerailro3309]

I didn’t know a titanium alloy ring bends so easy

[@PatriotCoinRings]

Depending on how thick the band is, yea it can be bent fairly easily but won't shatter like Tungsten.

[@paducahandlouisvillerailro3309]

@@PatriotCoinRings that’s cool I uploaded a video of the titanium ring maybe you should check it out

[@paducahandlouisvillerailro3309]

@@PatriotCoinRings I have a titanium alloy spinning tire ring I bought off amazon

[@WaschyNumber1]

Nice video 👍 But chrome plated brass and aluminium is too not magnetic. 🤔 How can it be tested without harming the titanium rings ect?

[@PatriotCoinRings]

Yes, and I've honestly never had a problem with that. I should make another followup video of this topic addressing what you touched on which is a great question just showing exactly how to do that. Thank you for the recommendation and question as I'm sure it would help many jewelers.

[@WaschyNumber1]

@@PatriotCoinRings Thank You 👍

[@vincentavin5848]

What's the difference between 316L and titanium

[@PatriotCoinRings]

316L is a grade of stainless steel. Ti22 is Titanium metal.

[@PatriotCoinRings]

More can be learned from this video comparing Tungsten vs Titanium kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZSthJJ5fNKBi6M&ab_channel=PatriotCoinRings

[@paulfennell01]

So the guy selling silver looking titanium wedding rings on Etsy that he claims to be from an F-16 fan blade is not genuine? I’m sure the engine gets hotter than 215…. Your thoughts sir?

[@PatriotCoinRings]

The F-16 Fighting Falcon primarily uses titanium alloys in critical areas where strength-to-weight ratio, corrosion resistance, and high-temperature durability are essential. Here are some titanium grades commonly used in aircraft like the F-16: Grade 5 Titanium (Ti-6Al-4V): This alloy is the most widely used and is found in components requiring high strength and corrosion resistance. Grade 5 has excellent fatigue strength and can handle high stress, making it ideal for structural parts, such as wing and fuselage components. Grade 9 Titanium (Ti-3Al-2.5V): This alloy is lighter and easier to form than Grade 5, providing moderate strength and good corrosion resistance. It’s often used in hydraulic tubing and other components that require moderate strength but benefit from a lighter weight. Grade 6 Titanium (Ti-5Al-2.5Sn): Known for its good weldability and stability at high temperatures, this alloy is used in applications exposed to elevated temperatures, such as engine components. Beta Titanium Alloys: Certain components may also use beta titanium alloys like Ti-10V-2Fe-3Al, which offer excellent formability, weldability, and high strength, particularly under stress. These alloys are often utilized in landing gear and other high-stress areas. The selection of titanium alloys depends on the specific performance needs, such as weight reduction, durability, and stress tolerance, in the jet’s design. I've made many rings and jewelry items from authentic aircraft parts so I hope this information is useful. Also more to your question or concern, yes there are people selling rings made of authentic titanium obtained from various parts of many different aircraft. There authenticity however can be very questionable however and nearly impossible for the end user (customer) to know or prove otherwise. I can for instance buy any of these grades of Titanium mentioned above, mill a ring from it, anodize it a pretty blue if that's what you like and call it what ever I want and it would be again, nearly impossible or financially not feasible for most to prove anything different and yes, there are many rings being sold on the net that claim one thing but are another. Regarding your question on anodizing however, I was showing a fast and easy method to anodize titanium using "jeweler grade titanium" and not "aviation grade titanium" which is probably where you got that 215F question. So putting that to the test, if you were to put it in the oven at 215 would it anodize... No. You have to anneal it with a torch to that point for a period of time to reach that color and like the chart in the video shows, many colors can be achieved. Anodizing however is more typically done through the use of Voltage while the item is in a liquid bath of solutions like water and baking soda or certain acid dips and this will give the jeweler control on very clean consistent coloration. I'll end with this comment. If you are buying a ring that looks solid in color all the way around such as you said somebody selling a solid blue band, is it likely real? No, most likely not. The reason being is I can take a part of the aircraft like the turbine intake you are talking about and yes, it may have in areas anodizing on the "raw piece". You need to understand that is only surface deep and not all the way through so if I take that piece and mill it on my lathe into a ring, the result will return it back into a straight natural titanium greyish silver and not be solid blue unless the jeweler re-anodizes it again for the sake of making it look interesting. Hope that helps.

[@paulfennell01]

@@PatriotCoinRingsExcellent answer, one follow up question for you; if I was able to source a titanium fan blade and send it to you, could you mill it into a ring for me- that way there would be no doubt to the authenticity.

[@PatriotCoinRings]

@@paulfennell01 You would need to ask a machinist who owns a CNC machine to lathe it down to a bar (or I could source that here) then yes, I could do the milling of the steel bar personally. If you can send me a picture of the piece and give measurements to it, I can let you know if it would be an ideal piece to mill or not. To contact me, just send the photos and remind me who you are and that we spoke here on KZbin and send them all to ( Patriot Coin Rings (at) Gmail dot com ) spelled out to prevent bots from picking up my email address.

[@Hossman757]

The reason Titanium is not magnetic is because it is classified as a non-ferrous metal. This means that it does not contain Iron ferrite. Certain grades of titanium will be magnetic casue they are alloid with ferrous metals.

[@PatriotCoinRings]

Excellent explanation, thank you.

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[@jamesdibiase346]

Very interesting, thanks.

[@PatriotCoinRings]

I had a customer question whether what they got was really Titanium so thought I'd answer in a public forum in case others were ever curious how to tell as well regardless of whether it was a ring or something else they've purchased.

[@mysteryguy793]

I love it. I thought they were dying them though

[@PatriotCoinRings]

No, Anodizing is either done by fire or by high voltage electrolysis in an acid base solution which I didn't get into on this clip however the later is what is used commercially and in my shop for very accurate coloring.

[@GA-yv3zw]

that intro was so extra! makes me think you're feeling inadequate

[@PatriotCoinRings]

Your comment makes me think your wishing you could do what I do but can't

[@frankrizzo6272]

i like cheap 9 volt batteries. i get what ever i need.

[@PatriotCoinRings]

What do you mean, something to do with Titanium verification? You aren't saying you can get any color by anodizing with a 9v battery are you? Up to a hundred volts area needed in many cases as seen @4:00 (see chart)