Is my SUPERCHARGED Buick any FASTER than STOCK?

[@trendel13]

Jake be getting all of the women. He's got room for four up front and their walkers in the trunk.

[@lonniejenkins5008]

Lol!😅😂

[@marcthebarber239]

This one fucked me up 😂😂😂

[@nitrocity-tt5tg]

Lol

[@RealDealS0l0GTrill]

😭😭

[@williamdon3442]

🤣🤣🤣

[@josephedwarddowling5919]

I can not believe they did not realize how much the front end damage created a tremendous amount of wind resistance and drag. One of the main reasons these cars get decent mpg for a big car is because the body shape is very aerodynamic. I own one and love it even though no one else does.

[@thoughtsforyourlife2k98]

I temporarily drove a 1999 Buick century 3.1L and man. They are slow, but quiet, light, dependable and fuel efficient

[@zedlepplin7834]

​@@thoughtsforyourlife2k982000 century was my first ride and man do I miss it, might have been slightly more powerful than a base trim civic but it had class to make up for it.

[@yo5535]

@@thoughtsforyourlife2k98the 3.800 is better than the 3.1

[@bobfitz7886]

I absolutely love my Buick. Even NA with some mods can put out quite a bit of power. Regularly smoke civics and accords 🥱

[@mikekovacs8981]

Grandfather in law had an Olds LSS with 3800 supercharged. Was a fun grandpa car could really light them up stock and I drove it when it was nearly brand new.

[@dbucciar]

Had a 99 GTP with a 3.4” pulley, 3” exhaust, a cold-air intake, and a reprogrammed PCM. Best run at Bandimere Speedway (5000+ ft) was 14.85 @ 98 mph. Biggest enemy was knock - the PCM would pull timing like crazy. Go with highest octane fuel you can get. Drove that GTP for 20 years, still miss her.

[@254967conwell]

Don't be disillusioned with the numbers. Gonna take more than just a generic pulley drop and a can tune. I have a 2002 Regal GS that runs low 13's. Blew the stock motor and invested in a long block from Summit racing and threw an intercooler on it with a 3.0 pulley, 44# injectors, ZZP headers and a true cold air intake, stock cam but went with the 1.8 Yella terra roller rockers. 2.5 catback. Plus some other mods to complement the major mods, thats where you start to see big gains like only a dyno tune can make ...Happy modding

[@hem1kat]

Just superglue that key transponder chip under the dash near the ignition. Then cut as many keys as you want on the cheap and no more zippie tie needed. Unless you are really concerned about it getting stolen

[@dave11686]

VATS is so fun

[@toxicity6629]

Thank you, my rendezvous lookin real nice imma add this to it too

[@JonBlondell]

You're a really good guy for fixing your friend's car, and I'm so glad you're paying more attention to the Buick!!

[@JMags232]

Points awarded for "give em the clamps"

[@CaptainThirdGen]

heat is a huge issue on these L67 cars. My Park Ave Ultra is noticeably faster, even bone stock, when the temps are 60* and below. They just get heat soaked so easily. In roughly 50-60* temps my bone stock PAU will do roughly 6.5-7sec 0-60 depending on wheel spin. Very cool to see someone modifying a PAU, keep up the good work!

[@XG916]

Would hood vents and some sort of bumper vent with tubes leading into the engine bay help? I'm shopping around for one of these puppies right now, it gets pretty hot in SW Colorado

[@matthewwolfe4509]

Heat is definitely killing you. Had a GTP for a while. Living in East TN and climbing the hills on I-40 or I75 in 100 degree heat at 80ish mph, that thing would heat soak something terrible. Was like driving a car in limp mode.

[@92roadie]

Yup, I use to own 2 Regal GS's, i installed a zzp fullsize intercooler and it's made a huge difference with heat and i could add a bunch of timing.

[@ewfmatthew]

Did you use a cooler thermostat? I’ve been running 180 in my 02 stock n/a and it’s made driving hard on hot days so much easier. The ac fans keep it avg 178-182 at idle and 195-200 in some stop and go traffics at 95degree air temp. Cincinnati was a bit hot this past summer.

[@douglasb.1203]

Considering a mid '80's full sized Park Avenue with a 307 V8 and 4 speed auto waltzed to 60 in around 13 seconds and did a 1/4 mile in "yeah".

[@olikat8]

I have a fairly modified Regal GS, bought straight from GM when it's promo days were done- I had worked on a study at SMCO with them so I got it cheap. It's quite a bit quicker than stock, but not "Cranked to 11." Intercooled, modular pulley set up (M90 is ported & polished), Mahle pistons, full Comp Cam kit, counter-rotating shaft removed (Double roller chain, fully balanced rotation assembly, oiling hole blocked), ARP hardware, thermal barrier coated SS headers, Magnaflow exhaust, transaxle by Triple Edge (rated for 750 hp &750 ft/lbs), LSD- brakes & suspension are upgraded to match. It is reliable, still very efficient, quick, comfortable

[@100PercentJake]

That is one heck of a parts list 🙌

[@olikat8]

@@100PercentJake it is pretty long, done all at once and has been a great cat. Getting stripped & painted right now, it will look brand new

[@timo3683]

@@olikat8 how much did this all run you bro? I’d you don’t mind. My lesabre belonged to my bro who passed away some time ago. I want it to look brand new. No matter the cost. Please let me know

[@olikat8]

@@timo3683 my cost on parts, machining, and expertise of friends was $12k. It was cheap, called in a lot of favors. Retail? It would've been over $20k easy. People shake their heads maybe, but even the transaxle is built to take 750 hp/750 ft. lbs. and has a limited slip.

[@ImCompletelyBugProof]

Have you ever had this setup dyno’d?

[@928gto]

Apple's to apple's. Great hobby cars, keeping these on the road. Relatively inexpensive glory.

[@drewping2002]

Yours doesn't have a HUD? That's one of my favorite features on mine. I do love the wheels on yours. And you (and the middle aged ladies) are right, that color is sharp!

[@drewping2002]

Mine's an '04 and is the same color as Zeph's but is in pretty great shape body wise, couple minor scrapes and a little paint missing from the side mirror

[@johnathancampbell1056]

@@drewping2002 mine is 04 ultra white twitch peanut butter guts 180k miles I love it

[@clifbradley]

Front splitter, canards, giant wing, rear diffuser, nitrous, pilot sport cup 4's, rear seat delete, passenger seat delete, no AC, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber door, magnesium wheels, lexan windows. The $112,000 Buick Park Avenue GT-R....ULTRA!!!!!!!

[@928gto]

Awesome, thanks. Considering quick vs. fast, bargain power, reliability, tech and comfort. Well rounded rigs, these. Upkeep is anticipated item's.

[@joannaatkins822]

Oh dear, heat'll kill any fun for drag-esque type shenanigans. I'm glad to see you're doing the FUN THINGS though!

[@kyles3600]

Definitely more power on the table there. It's been almost 2 decades, but I did 15.3 at 92 mph with only an intake.

[@kendallsmith1458]

7:30 Jake the Cougar Killer!

[@92roadie]

Buy some headers, back in the day guys use to buy the cheap ebay "Speed Daddy" headers which were a knock off of a popular brand or a 3 inch downpipe would help a lot. 1.9 modded rockers was a cheap and easy job and made a nice difference aswell.

[@joseluisruiz3789]

12 miles per gallon is what I get on my 2002 park avenue ultra with 91 octane in California current mileage is 144,000. I figured since my car is heavy and old it would do terrible on fuel which mine does lol.

[@israelballew4155]

I swear, my 95 Riviera with the series 1 sc would gain like 40 hp when it was cold outside. These engines pull timing like crazy when it's hot. Intercooler would make a massive difference.

[@stuartwinter2758]

Headers and holes in bonnets cools things down a bit. My l67 pulls hard in the cold weather.

[@Thanos.m]

Could be that it's running ritch because it's on e85 I would say run it on petrol for little bit see if that increases fuel economy and fuel mixture ratio

[@90sbuickguy84]

Somehow I removed the serpentine accessory drive belt without pulling the motor mount on my 96 Buick Park Avenue base I think I turned it inside it out or something I don’t even remember how I did it. I did it by accident really because I was really frustrated with it that I couldn’t get it back on the police because of that damn motor mount because I was doing the coolant elbow upgrade, turning mine from plastic to the aluminum upgraded one and to do that you got a loosen the belt but I can’t remember exactly how I got it back but I do remember I didn’t have to remove or mess with the motor mount at all. Not even jack the motor up. I guess I did just turn the belt inside out online or pulled over differently. I’m not sure I don’t remember it’s been about three years ago

[@stalstal4952]

I know you said it was 100 degrees outside and that does make a difference, but I got a 7.6 second 0-60 with a bone stock other than gutted air box. Either that 100 degree temp is killing you, or you have some major issue LOL.

[@michaeltutty1540]

Interesting comparison. Those Performance figures are not far off what I was doing in my bone stock 89 Grand Marquis with the 5.8 and Trailer Tow III Package, except the Mercury managed a solid 35 miles to the US gallon on the highway. Torque rules in a heavy car.

[@7728abbott]

Jake, your backyard is becoming a virtual upload list! Another great video!

[@stern12akachris32]

Soooooo the Datsun in the weeds , we need that car !!!!!

[@brycemeng]

What car

[@jerrysingleton4956]

Looked like a 71 240z

[@mustdriveslower]

Wow, being an Englishman brought up on our European diet of cars I am amazed at the performance figures for big American cars. Not too surprising when you remember how much metal is being moved I guess. Fuel at over $7 a gallon here is a motivation to keep the cars small (helps with the small roads too) and that then gives low weight and better performance even with little often 3 cylinder smaller cc engines. It does need some recalibration in the mind department though - 3.8l supercharged engine and 0-60 of 7 + seconds. I was expecting sub 6 in my head. Nice comfortable luxury though, and forgetting fuel costs, I know which I would prefer to be driving. Keep the videos coming they are great fun, thank you from one of your followers in the old country.

[@israelballew4155]

A few things hold these cars back, the first being transmission gearing. 1st gear is massively long allowing the car up to 50mph until it shifts into second. This keeps the engine out of it's power band quite a bit. I believe this was done to limit wheelspin and improve economy on the highway, as that's where these cars were designed to live. Secondly, the supercharger on these cars is tiny and poorly optimized. Gm put pretty much no effort into lowering intake air temps, so the car pulls timing like crazy when it's heat soaked. Sure, it makes 240hp when cold, but when heatsoaked it's probably about 180-200. Lastly, the park avenue is monsterously heavy at about 3800 pounds (almost two tons). The Buick regal GS and Pontiac grand prix were both much lighter and had better gearing, bringing them down to a 6.5 second 0-60 stock, and can easily be down into the 5s with a few mods. Buick marketed the 3800 SC as a v8 alternative. Again, it was make to be smooth and powerful on the highway. Not really a drag racer.

[@douglasb.1203]

@@israelballew4155 the better supercharged V6 of 3.8 liters displacement is the Thunderbird S/C with virtually the same curb weight but bags more torque, the Ford 3.8 V6 supercharged trounces this Park Avenue.

[@kyrasamone_74]

I’m a 2004 Buick Park Avenue and I’ve had it since 2009. I have driven it everyday since I bought it. I keep the maintenance up on it. Your Park Avenue is clean Sir 🫡

[@Yourengineeringstandpt]

Try it in a moist rain condition, superchargers run so much better with moisture. Try it you'll be surprised. Or if you want to get technical dial it in on a lap top take it to a professional

[@james10739]

I saw that pully on the alternator and was like is that how they did it from the factory but I guess not

[@RodderFiles]

114 here in Vegas today hell its been like this for a wk and a half already ugh hope its better in Wichita in July lol

[@MrFenceBuilder]

Yeah, you only have to pull that lower pin on the motor mount, I've done 3 belts on my 98 lesabre, for some reason the new belts go bad after like a month

[@oneeyedrone4293]

of course its gonna be faster :) I have my L67 in a montana van, night and day vs the junker 3400 lol. Also thats a 3.4" pulley ? looks like the stock 3.8" pulley. Looks like you went with the gen 3 eaton.

[@youngsol309]

This man working outside in the dark.. respect lmaooo

[@Health_at_every_size_PDX]

The reason your average fuel economy is 50% of what it should be is, E85 fuel, a tune to run E85 fuel which forces more fuel to the engine, a smaller pulley which spins the turbo faster incresing fuel consumption, constantly doing fast starts, and your catalytic converter most likely needs to be replaced or deleted. A high performance air filter like a K&N, would also help with fuel economy.

[@BuildTheSandbox]

"we have got it running pretty WELL!"

[@JSFGuy]

Try putting a gallon of 100 LL avgas...👉 Take a 5 gallon gas can to a local airport and fill her up and go from there. It's about $4:50 per gallon.

[@Thanos.m]

You can't do that its leaded it will immediately plug the cats and probs the injection wont work with it

[@JSFGuy]

@@Thanos.m not true, LL means low lead, putting one gallon in a tank is not going to hurt anything I've done it and continue to do it on my California cars. It's just a matter of performance increase to see if your car needs it.

[@21Piloteer]

Is your car intercooled? Can you add an intercooler? Maybe port/polish the heads?

[@100PercentJake]

Adding an intercooler to an M90 requires very costly and not terribly effective sandwich intercooler stacks. The best thing to do is ditch the supercharger and add a turbo. This also has the effect of being way gentler to the transmission due to the way the boost builds.

[@repentnow1720]

@@100PercentJake Jake! Look at a Snow Performance Methanol & Water injection system triggered off the MAF . You can set the activation point and the spray curve - this unit lowers IATemps dramatically if you use -32 washer fluid spiked with a quart of 91% isopropyl alcohol. I used it on my 1996 LT4 Turbo TA - lots of fun! Using this you can re-tune / lower the PWM percentage of your injector tables (for higher MPG on that E85) and let the boost cooler act as a fuel enrichment device as well.

[@stuartwinter2758]

Cut holes in the bonnet. That'll cool it down.

[@ajw828]

Love this content! Keep it up Jake!

[@jasonbucher5622]

Those wheels really make that car stand out

[@kernhaney7541]

I love my 97 GTP and my 2003 ultra both are fun toys

[@sftny9881]

Finding a long flat straight road in Kansas. Who would think??

[@michaelmiller671]

I so want to meet you. I live in Lee's Summit, Mo. If you're ever in the area, let me know. You rock.

[@derrickgillison1056]

Cool video... 😎 Do you work on them? I'm in need of help on my 05 Buick Park Ave

[@bobfitz7886]

The 3800 NA has a higher compression ratio, if you bolt the supercharger on an NA you'll get a bit more power than the 67 😉

[@gmshitbox5621]

you have got to tell me more about the alternative way to drive the supercharger from the alternator? how did you line it up perfectly to weld it?

[@bluwng]

2 people on a test run with windows down is the best test method.

[@tistheartist2985]

Bro I own 2006 325i BMW and now I have a 2000 Buick LeSabre Custom as well

[@Salty4eva]

16.58 with 3 am passengers! Not bad

[@stuartwinter2758]

Wow. Aussie l67 motors are north south and you can do both belts in 2 minutes. I feel for you bro. Love the supermangs though. They are a bit of a cult thing and only those who have the bug get it.

[@morstyrannis1951]

When is John Ross going to show up and claim that "fern find" Datsun Z? Is that a 2+2 model?

[@ryanschofield4216]

I miss mine I want one so bad I had a huge back surgery.and OMG they ride so nice and it's not fast but it's a good car mine got 28mpg mixed

[@thomasdemooka4341]

My 2010 Malibu LTZ with a 100% stock naturally aspirated 3.6 VVT is over 3 seconds faster 0 - 60 than the Park Avenue. Granted it's a lighter vehicle, but it isn't super charged. It has a lot less miles at only 84,000. It has always been meticulously maintained and looks and runs as well as it did when I bought it new.

[@rcotay]

Even motor trend with there optimistic times puts a 2010 malibu ltz at 6.0 so about a second and change faster.

[@thomasdemooka4341]

@@rcotay We timed the LTZ at 4.56s, 0-60 @ 74 degrees F using only non ethanol fuel that I run in my summertime toys. It did the quarter mile in 14.1s @ 101mph...most likely attributed to the six speed transmission while using the paddle shifters and cooler ambient air temperature. The only real "modifications" to the car are larger than stock exhaust, a UPF48R oil filter instead of the PF48E which produces slightly higher oil pressure and high flow mufflers to give it some V6 resonance.

[@aaron7671]

Those 3.6s are no joke. They are fast especially when in the epsilon cars. But the 3800s have more aftermarket and performance parts available.

[@jeremywimer8842]

Your becoming a Buick whisperer!

[@xXEvangelXx]

This is making me reluctant to buy a supercharged 3800. I like how reliable my LeSabre but like damn what is the point lmao

[@bobfitz7886]

Just supercharge the NA motor, NA has high compression ratio and will give you more power. Also, delete the cat. Just do it. It's in the way

[@GrassManKey]

Any chance you wanna help. Got all new bushings but broke my back and can't install.

[@houseofno]

Not just a dog. That's the pre-race inspection guy.

[@guthrie_1]

Man that’s brutal. I’m guessing there is no intercooling going on here. I wonder what a max effort build would look like on one of these lol

[@100PercentJake]

My buddy Zeph built (but no longer owns) the current 3800 horsepower record, which is a base LeSabre Custom with a large turbo and water-to-air intercooler stacks.

[@guthrie_1]

@@100PercentJake What did it dyno?

[@dave11686]

Happy Friday Elliott

[@NoGGy]

I'm 99% sure outdoor temp makes very little difference to performance, maybe like a few split seconds.

[@lexuses3942]

My 3.0 Lexus ES 300 does 0-60 in 8 seconds flat. On paper it says 8.2 when it was new…it’s 23 years old lol 😂🤷🏻 no explanation. Although I take very good care of it

[@SIXPACFISH]

Long drive to Mexico to get your numbers, but well worth it!

[@dave11686]

My Deville is giving me periodic VATS fits too

[@100PercentJake]

Vats no fun at all

[@dave11686]

@@100PercentJake ba-dum-tssss

[@stuartwinter2758]

If you guys run the same ecu we do in Australia you can just get a novats pcm chip. Possibly from zzp where you are. In Australia mace and commodore tuners on ebay are good options.

[@dave11686]

@@stuartwinter2758 except I have a 4.9L V8… I don’t think yall got the K-body Cadillac in Oz

[@nairblooc]

K&N speed decal? Looking forward to that video

[@rocket625]

55% jake nice pulling boiii

[@thecman26]

Technically it's not even summer yet! Yikes!

[@james10739]

That car was running without the supercharger belt I'm assuming not well but still

[@Vintageguy73]

How are you controlling tire spin? pedaling? Impressive #'s, Thanks!

[@mori_a.Wolfboi]

Can u link me to a vid that shows how to super charge a car. My dumb ass can't find shit on it

[@aaronsexton6434]

I bypassed my pass key system with resisters took me 30 min.

[@TorquilMcLeod]

"Give him the clamps!"

[@dj_paultuk7052]

One way to make that engine faster. Pull it out and put it in a Fiero !.

[@jogo1666]

Tbh. Uncut zip ties may be a underlining sign of mad man

[@aaronsexton6434]

Real question why was the belt ever removed?

[@AndrewVogel-q4h]

The supercharged Buick still is twice as quick as my 09 Hyundai accent lol

[@marcthebarber239]

U accelerate them wrong u gotta let go and go back into it with the gas man lmao

[@maxxmich]

Why was the supercharger belt off jn the first place? Might have been a reason

[@maxxmich]

Try putting the right belt on and it will work better.........lol

[@928gto]

Impressive

[@jmdjasonday]

Is that an old datsun?

[@jonscott7686]

Actually Jake a few magazines motor trend car and driver etc. would average 7.50 0- 60

[@jeffreyhouse263]

I always thought e85 provides shit MPg so I don’t think your that far off, I lose 8mpg on e85 in a 2007 Yukon

[@prestonboling1427]

I’ve been getting around 10mpg on e85

[@AaronShover]

What's a good tuner to buy for 05 grand prix

[@Oneill5491]

What's with you and JR suddenly releasing videos of work being done in the middle of the night?

[@100PercentJake]

because it's 100 degrees during the day with no clouds, lol

[@terrancemcneill2210]

What was the size of the belt?

[@markaz2kk]

Could be a open injection that’s just pouring fuel into the combustion chamber

[@100PercentJake]

We swapped the injectors and tested the new ones outside the car. The old ones were fine, but we did it anyway.

[@panners125]

Try putting the original pulley back on the super charger and see what happens to the economy.

[@loganarzuaga8316]

What's your maf reading in grams per sec at idle all loads off

[@100PercentJake]

4.6g/s at 800rpm

[@therockdocbethdupree]

Middle aged Buick Park Avenue expert here. You've got serious issue with your video. 1. You must use Super Unleaded no Ethanol in an Ultra. You can use regular if you have gas pills. 2. You cannot judge regular vs Ultra in different years. They have vastly different gear ratios etc. 3. You must be impressed your friends clunker is still driving. You cannot kill these cars. 4. Every Park Ave in driveable condition can do 0-6 in under 8 seconds. We were all laughing. We have 4 in the family currently and have owned every year. I guess I can come close to this test as we have a 98 and 99 Ultra. PS. Bitron, Michelin Tires, NGK Iridium Spark Plugs, Mobile 1 full synthetic, change supercharger oil and fuel filter min 10k miles...Much love to any Park eficianado.

[@josephedwarddowling5919]

I have one and it is great. I tell people that need a cheap used car to buy one and they cringe. They are image conscience millennials who shun old. U.S. sedans.

[@coloradonuggz6212]

​@@josephedwarddowling5919 I need a cheap car. I'm looking at a park but also regal GS. I love sport sedans.

[@Tennesseeroadster222]

That 280 just sitting there is sad....

[@Modore64]

"Don't eat the grass"

[@heymikeylikesit1]

Soooo WHAT IS UP WITH THE DATSUN IN THE BUSHES? Put the Buick away and get the Z car on the road bro.

[@EweToobUsername]

Yeah, heat soak is a killer.

[@TheWhatman21]

what guys really are doing when their girls think they're out cheating.

[@knightrider1545]

That so fast it you can get in trouble quick.

[@davidruffjr6045]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@pizzamon795]

It better be