Is Network Marketing A Scam? - David Imonitie

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In this video, David Imonitie goes on the Social Proof Podcast with David Shands and Donni Wiggins and talks about the truth about network marketing and why it is not a scam.
This clip is from the episode called "There Is Success On The Other Side Of Failure - David & Donni Featuring David Imonitie #322"
David Imonitie has amazed people with the level of success he has achieved so far in his career spanning 16 years. Today, he is a multi-millionaire serial entrepreneur, philanthropist, success trainer and inspirational speaker, apart from being an investor, leadership and business strategist, belief and achievement coach. At 37 years of age, he has shown the world what it takes to become the best in the business world.

[@richardlangly4635]

Imagine promoting pyramid schemes. Disgusting.

[@igbinedionprecious4668]

People who complain about network marketing are always the lazy ones who don't want to work, don't go through mentorship and don't have the long time mentality to stay and build it to get results. Always having a sense of entitlement and get rich fast mentality. Network marketing has produced more millionaires than the school system has ever produced

[@lmusima3275]

That’s the biggest lie ever told. People aren’t lazy. They’re fed up with losing so much money and not getting paid. Hardly any of these network marketing people are millionaires. They rent fancy air b n bs and call it their home. The ones who make it have mastered the art of scamming and tricking

[@jineshpatel5241]

Please share your MLM paystub… uneducated mlm guy..

[@gnanaprabhu968]

​@@igbinedionprecious4668broo I would like to the sources you get these amazing stats.. is it from your grandma's old sock named, "sh*t claims are the best claims" ??

[@Patrick-pm6ue]

it’s affiliate marketing. doesn’t matter what shape the comp plan is in the back office. those who share the most get paid the most. I’d rather share an opportunity and win and have success then grind a 9-5 that pays you only 2 days a month. most jobs aren’t scalable and stuff like this gives people options ❤

[@devuniquedev1]

People forget that money is the last thing which hurt people in MLM. It is the relationships, time and image loss which affects most

[@PatrickAung93]

Then don't approach family friends or relatives. Just spend time selling to corporate companies And since majority of ppl are approaching their families friends relatives... The business corporation are ABSOLUTELY UNTOUCHED. there you go. It's right there.

[@devuniquedev1]

@@PatrickAung93 what do you mean by business corporation.. It's called network marketing. So your suggest is to spoil your image and relation with your colleagues ???

[@PatrickAung93]

@@devuniquedev1 look guys. Someone who doesn't know B2B. News flash I am asking you to approach Companies that are completely UNRELATED TO YOU. I am not talking about your current job companies

[@PatrickAung93]

​​​@@devuniquedev1let's say your company have laundry detergent. You approach hotels after hotels and giving presentation about how eco-friendly or money savvy or higher quality your laundry detergent is. And if the deal is made... Be prepared for huge order every single month or week. Cos they had to change bedsheets in 100+ every single day. That's big money even if you managed to close the deal with 1 hotel alone Yup. I am talking about approaching THIS WAY. Not your job If I wanted to tell you to approach your colleagues, I would have said APPROACH YOUR JOB PEOPLE. Sell to COLLEAGUES and not... Sell to COMPANIES with an "S"

[@pewdiepiekjellberg4295]

Even at McDonald’s the lowest 1% is still earning money and staying in the black. Nobody is losing money by having the job.

[@robinpotato9886]

Yes it's crazy how many people are loosing money from MLM's

[@todayuncensored]

the funny thing is that those at McD's make more money than those "at the bottom" of MLMs.

[@benjaminaristotleboes3157]

YES

[@thatwastakenagain]

its just silly how people are just not noticing this oh I have to invest I'm more of an hourly worker or a base pay worker fyi most of them do pay the base but maybe after buying the starter kit I'm at a lost of words MLM are not only getting the people who are most desperate and vulnerable but have the poeple on the top that are the most delusional and convincing its like you don't notice its just marketing hey MLM can I be part of the marketing team instead? Wow artist and everyone helping or making MLM happen should have some sort of boycott against them its some revolution that people have to unit with

[@benjaminaristotleboes3157]

@@thatwastakenagain , well said!!!!

[@bryanaliping1547]

As a police officer as a rookie I started at 48$ hr, now I’m at 54$ three years in. Tell me someone in network marketing at the bottom making more than me, I made 150k last year with overtime

[@TheWickdTrader]

Thanks fore your service even though I dont like the laws they do too much sometimes but thanks and keep gettin dat paper boyyyyyyeeee

[@jcv2020]

Lol the mlm sheep can’t attack you when you have a real job good stuff

[@RUS38]

Government must pay well for their own safety and protection and your main role is to be their security, everything else you do is secondary and fines you give out is a number one revenue of your organization. I would never work for the government and especially police even if someone knocks on my door and offers me a job at much higher rate. My moral values are much higher than any amout of money in the world. P.S Russia in the 90s and early 2000s showed what most police officers really are and what they are capable of by having power over regular citizen while being payed f*ck all, basically minimum wage and less. I think it was one of the greatest social experiments ever! It revealed the true face of a human being who doesn’t have morals.

[@BaddogSports]

@@jcv2020 They will never try to recruit a successful person! It’s always people who are in their must vulnerable state that they target!

[@giftedlife777]

very true you earn as you grow everyone starts at bottom good comment

[@IT2904iti]

The difference between someone who is an employee of a company. He receives a salary that enables him to plan as much as possible and does not bear the entrepreneurial risk. In network marketing, on the other hand, people are self-employed, have to pay taxes and take all the risk, and constantly attend events that cost money to get to the top. A culture of positive thinking emerges and everything negative is forced upon the individual. It's your own fault if something goes wrong etc. Not everyone is a magnet for people and good at selling. It's about selling people an illusion and a lifestyle. However, all of this costs money, even if you fake it, in order to ultimately achieve it. Networking means 24/7 stress, whether you're up or down, it's a cult and everyone is trapped in this system of positivity, dependencies arise because you mistake it for friendship.

[@RealSocialProof]

Thanks for breaking that down. We appreciate you! 🤌🏾✨

[@giftedlife777]

As an affiliate marketer, I want to highlight the benefits of this business model while acknowledging the challenges some may face. Being an affiliate allows for flexible income potential through sharing valuable products/services. It's a great fit for individuals seeking independence and an entrepreneurial spirit. Like any venture, it requires dedication and effort. While some might thrive, others may find it challenging. Finding the right niche and strategy is key to success. Honesty and transparency are crucial when promoting opportunities, ensuring everyone makes informed decisions. It's about providing value, building trust, and offering genuine solutions to people's needs.

[@fleurelise997]

@@giftedlife777 As someone who's helped and counseled relatives and friends who suffered terribly after trying MLMs, I can tell you that there are no benefits whatsoever. It's better to invent a product and sell it directly to clientele without the complications of down or uplines. MLMs are designed to fail.

[@Hollywoodbearluv]

@@giftedlife777flexible? As in when people don’t want to buy your stuff or sign up for your scam you make less that month. If I am going to gamble there is going to be neon lights and cheap booze involved.

[@tijeraslack3]

Preach! 🙌🏾💯

[@robinpotato9886]

Most people in MLMs don't even make money. They loose money.

[@giftedlife777]

What if you were taught the right way

[@OJ90-]

Yup, it makes u predatory. It makes u see ppl as a lick, without any care for them that they are most lightly gonna lose money.

[@giftedlife777]

The reason why a lot of people in MLM do not make money is because they lack connection if you want to learn how to make millions I know the person to teach you

[@AgentForLife]

idk i made 8k this month

[@hater2510]

​@@giftedlife777no you don't Eric

[@lmusima3275]

It didn’t work out because the business model is problematic and the market is already oversaturated. Only 1% make good money 💴 in it.

[@chrisburton713]

You mean like in every other industry?

[@platypusaf]

@@chrisburton713no not like every other industry. The income disparity between tiers of a MLM have ridiculous exponential differences. At least as a McDonald’s cashier you’d be making actual money.

[@imperiumlensstudio3295]

@@platypusafyeah , but by spending hours in behind the counter. I guarantee if you were to put that much time and effort building the business, you would have far better results.

[@Relentless0521]

Only one percent making money at a job. I don’t understand how ppl fight so hard for a system that enslaves them. Network marketing ain’t for everybody but everybody has a better chance than those working for the one percent🤦‍♂️❤️🤙🏾🔥🙌🏾I don’t know make it make sense

[@tylert4271]

​@@platypusafExactly. The top ones did what it takes, bottom 99% did not. Just like every other area of society. U must become a different breed to make it to the top of any industry, especially business, whether traditional or MLM.

[@bryanaliping1547]

The difference is you can move up in your job, for example as a police officer to detective to sergeant to lieutenant then captain and so on… in network marketing you can never replace anyone at the top they will always be higher than you if there at the top and your at the bottom, even if you have success they will always be higher than you because your making money for them

[@RealSocialProof]

Great perspective!

[@akl000]

Poor example

[@chrisburton713]

So at your job you can hit higher ranks to make more money? Uh, you just described network marketing

[@tylert4271]

Wrong. Someone who joins later and is "below" someone else can outwork their up lines, sell more products, build a larger organization, and make more money, even way more. No matter the industry, someone will always profit from someone else's work. Always. That's business, which is for profit.

[@gnanaprabhu968]

​@@tylert4271Ever took a basic,rudimentary middle school level math class mate ? Exponents etc.. say it is like you say if you work good you can "earn more than your uplines". Another point mate the pyraid grows exponentially. Even if it's like one person adds 3 others.. you'll run out of entire population in like 13th deck.. obviously not everyone will join you as your downline.. so it's gonna be a stalemate.. so the last line will only lose their liberty to choose other products to purchase and not to mention their time. Ever thought that ? Nah.. you just want to make a sh*t ton of money huh 😏? I'll give you a tip.. only way people as naive as you could get rich is being a politician. Wait, even there you should be the one who manipulates and not get manipulated.. Think through man, brain is not just sit on the balcony

[@jefffrank6793]

Show me a valid industry where all the people at the bottom work for free or loose money.

[@PatrickAung93]

I lost money at Nirvana. Sales job. Brought prospect to corporate dinner and I had to pay for their attendance. It was not made clear to me until 2 days after the event that the cost will be coming out of my pocket and not the company sponsor. I was chased by my sales team leader and it was a night mare. I lost money at insurance and property agent, cos I had zero customer. I spent money making paper ads online ads, purchasing leads etc. Does it make it a bad business? I am talking about my real life cases. It's all about whether you can bring in customers. ALSO 100% of people who join insurance and property and sales jobs are in it to 100 PERCENT MAKE MONEY. What if I sign up at random MLM because I just want to solely purchase products? I'm losing moneyyy. What if majority of MLM reps are pure customers who did not join with intent to make money? What then????

[@renattasbolat4532]

but only in MLM you have to pay even when you are on the bottom.

[@RealSocialProof]

Ohh, that's interesting! 😳

[@kennyvspoverty]

They got that new new in the streets now there are companies with a more affiliate marketing set up where signing up is free you buy your products or service and build your team from there

[@5starathlete804]

@@kennyvspovertystill gotta recruit to make money

[@kennyvspoverty]

@@5starathlete804 I found something where you have a true affiliate marketing strategy you can recommend (sell) product and get paid or add in the team building for additional leverage

[@giftedlife777]

Even a job you pay at the bottom Gas for car getting there Transporatation services Bus/ Train/uber/lyft

[@flexx7611]

This dude is a slick salesman. By playing with his words, you would not realize that a network marketing or MLM is not an industry. What industry allows you to get paid based upon multiple recruitment in a pyramid style. Everything is a pyramid but not based upon recruitment to benefit the top. That is the reason for a 1% success rate as you would end up spending money just to break even if you really try hard over a period of time. Unfortunately, many are fooled based on the comments above and below. Unfortunately thats how he makes his bread. Can't hate the player, hate the game.

[@supertrendymoneymaker0722]

Have you seen LiveGood and Saving Highway Global? Those companies are some of the best examples of people making it happen in the MLM industry by not including autoship or going to expensive events. If MLM was those examples than most people would not call it all a scam, because they will see real success that is not theory.

[@benjaminaristotleboes3157]

And you damage others to even break even....

[@Dmanz67]

Oh, ffs. 'people at the top' in this scenario means people who got in early.... People at the top of the PYRAMID. MLM is always a scam. Full stop.

[@igbinedionprecious4668]

People who complain about network marketing are always the lazy ones who don't want to work, don't go through mentorship and don't have the long time mentality to stay and build it to get results. Always having a sense of entitlement and get rich fast mentality. Network marketing has produced more millionaires than the school system has ever produced. Network marketing rewards you for your effort

[@SoCalOnTheBeat]

@@igbinedionprecious4668 cap yall only reply to keep the bad reputation down the shot is bullshit and you know it!

[@lmusima3275]

Yeah. All liars, scammers who hide the real truth to get new distributors

[@lmusima3275]

@@igbinedionprecious4668 was their money 💴 lazy? I guess not. The business model is problematic in itself. People are lied to about earning big money so they spend on stock thinking they would sell and make commission. You see all these MLM pyramid schemers all speak the same language. You all lack accountability for your corrupt business practices. If I can count at least 200 red flags 🚩 deal breakers about all of these MLM companies I’d fill the list

[@igbinedionprecious4668]

@@SoCalOnTheBeat the fact people succeed in mlm shows the problem isn’t the business model but a YOU problem. So be humble enough to learn from successful mentors rather than making excuses and blaming others for your laziness

[@zacktronelectrify]

Ah yes another logical fallacy. Show me another industry where there’s a 1% success rate. People in other industries at the bottom make less money, yes. However, they at least also MAKE money. The people at the bottom of MLMs struggle to make make any money or break even according to the FTC. These are not my opinions but based off statistics from the Federal Trade Commission and income disclosures from multiple companies.

[@RealSocialProof]

It make sense.

[@tylert4271]

Real estate agents 90+% never sell a home. 80+% of small business fail in 3-5 years. Restaurants it's even higher. People simply underestimate what it takes in any type of business or industry to make it to the top. Must become the 1% or you'll be dependant on the 1%, and thats all good if someone wants that.

[@fleurelise997]

@@tylert4271 Here's the thing though. If 10-20% of the people who go into real estate or small businesses actually sell properties or succeed with sales, as per your statistics, that's still 3-6 times as many as the 3% of people who make any money at all in Network Marketing. Really estate is a tough business, and STILL more likely to score success than any NM business.

[@giftedlife777]

You are right to bring up the statistics from the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and income disclosures from MLM companies. It's essential to rely on reliable data when evaluating any business opportunity, including MLMs. Indeed, the low success rate in MLMs is a valid concern. The structure and compensation plans of many MLMs can make it challenging for a significant percentage of participants to achieve substantial financial gains. As you've pointed out, many people in MLMs struggle to make a profit, and some may even end up losing money. It's crucial for individuals to thoroughly research and consider all available data before getting involved in any business venture, including MLMs. Understanding the risks and potential rewards is essential to make informed decisions that align with one's financial goals and values. In the end, individuals should always exercise caution and skepticism when presented with any business opportunity that promises quick and easy riches. Successful endeavors often require hard work, dedication, and a realistic understanding of the industry's dynamics and challenges.

[@170skeith]

I went to trade school and did my apprenticeship and went on to start my own company in welding. I offer my employees full-time and apprentices the same wages I make. I'm at the top there can't be anyone in my business higher than me and the people under me make just as much and I'm on track for an early retirement. Pyramid schemes exist purely to squeeze every last nickel and dime out of everyone else and they take advantage of people who are already in desperate situations it's disgusting. If you have the time and money to consider wasting on a scam like MLM's, pyramid schemes or whatever they want to call it nowadays instead consider going to a trade school

[@serchav3153]

But the people at the bottom in network marketing make zero dollars for hours of work. That’s the difference

[@RealSocialProof]

Sad reality! That's why people at the bottom work hard more!

[@imperiumlensstudio3295]

Your comment is prime example of having an employee mindset. I have a traditional business and a network marketing business. In both I had to work hours before I even saw a penny. Network marketing isn’t for everyone. The problem is that certain network marketing companies go out to recruit people who aren’t qualified for it.

[@tylert4271]

If they would learn to SELL the products or services, and make that their priority, it would be different. But 99% treat it like a lottery ticket, thinking they will get rich with little or no work. That is not true and will never be true in business of any type.

[@kennyvspoverty]

I think this set up is pretty old school they set it up like a dang human 🐛 caterpillar Once you join any of these companies and create independence you can get 💩 popping on your own and be at the TOP of your own business/Team

[@giftedlife777]

@@tylert4271 I am being taught its about building connections. Not really selling since 97% are not sales type. I do what my mentor teaches. Build a connection and ask Who do you know that wants to make extra money

[@alexwright9228]

It’s a good point, the majority of money the money in any sector or vocation usually flows to those at the top “high performance” individuals . Price's law says that 50% of the work is done by the square root of the total number of people who participate in the work. And , that is prominently evident when you look at the NBA, NFL, chefs, designers, engineers, period. Even though his point has valid merit and validity , it leaves out the fact the remainder of those participating in the work still would prefer to be compensated for their contributions to out put even if disproportionate to the individuals I spoke of above. When you look at many MLM’s, the ones who are out of the small square root , starve , go bankrupt , over leverage themselves on unknown products with very little market demand. Not to mention the demographics they target , how your actually compensated, I’m not saying they’re all bs. But, if your participating understand the entirety of how you need to perform , skills needed, social media presence required and everything in between, don’t jump in shit you’re not willing to immerse yourself in .

[@ENDGAME.GRATIAN]

Network Marketing is actually great. Been studying the business model for about 4 years. If you’re not an NPC and you clearly observe that in fact the society is a pyramid, religions, employment and every other things related to this capitalistic system is pyramidal shape you will understand it. This guy is the living proof of NM earning potential .

[@jineshpatel5241]

Job is the industry where the bottom makes money(+50-80k/year).. but in MLM only the top, bottom makes zero money(infact loses 15-20k/year in MLM)

[@shravankumar05]

And thats why it is business not a job

[@jineshpatel5241]

Right, but they don’t accept it’s pyramid..

[@fattrolls8094]

People confuse network marketing with deceitful companies that go out of business.

[@mracn718]

good stuff

[@kriscarrithers1606]

I knew someone who no joke sold their beautiful custom log style home. Him and his wife moved into an RV because his up line told him. If you want to really make this work you need to downgrade your life so you have no choice. This ideology is rampant within the business. I joined for 3 years and did well, getting out and looking back it was extremely predatory and you are absolutely brainwashed. My favorite quote from one of the biggest guys in the industry was “yeah your brain needs some washing, you’ve been taught wrong”. Openly admits in a “funny” way that you should be reprogrammed to their thinking.

[@nn-xm8lz]

Ridiculous argument. With a real job people at the bottom can still earn a living. In MLM people LOSE money

[@guydangelo7123]

You lose money when you’re fired or laid off

[@edwinlopez3982]

Yeah and 70% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck

[@hamhi98]

Just another deceptive mlm scammer. These people are GROSS

[@PatrickAung93]

Which part is deceptive? Please elaborate with clear details.

[@floridasoldat]

@@PatrickAung93unfortunately nothing gets through to people like you until you lose everything

[@PatrickAung93]

@@floridasoldat I just asked a simple yet non aggressive question and I got this malevolent comment. This is ad hominem attack. Keep it coming. I'm documenting all the nasty behaviour of antimlmers.

[@geessaess1707]

Noboby complained about people at the the top making the most money. He is lying about people complaining about that. He think he sleek. The problem with MLM is that ONLY people at the top make money, while most people LOSE money. Scammer.

[@TajyeRoberson]

Remember the people at the top Started at the bottom. Like any career it’s not for everybody!

[@Dmanz67]

​@@TajyeRoberson No they didn't, they started at the top of the PYRAMID. Honestly, I can't waste my brain cells trying to explain the obvious.

[@TajyeRoberson]

@@Dmanz67 what is a PYRAMID?

[@whosaidthat84]

Correct. At any normal job, you can get promoted and move up. It's not really the case with an MLM. I've met people stuck at the bottom for years.

[@gavinkneller]

@@Dmanz67 that’s actually not how a legitimate MLM works. My parents work in the industry, decades into a company, and in about 2 years they were making $50k a month. They were no where near the top, the grinded to the top. People don’t understand hard work at all. Social skills is the best skill to have.

[@irenefeng6900]

Its not only people at the top make the MOST money, its "People at the top make money."

[@emyf9197]

My dad's gone into a pyramid game and thinks he's changing his economy by selling these DXN health supplements with science bs of "its science based from mushrooms" And other "organic juice", coffe, toothpastes etc and he's trying to rake in others into it.. Sold these stuff to our relatives... Now Im tryna research on how bad it is or if it is as bad as ppl say. What's the downfall at the end of it

[@PatrickAung93]

From the bottom of my heart... No sarcasm. If he is not trained in Leads generation Appointment setting Presentation Sales negotiation Customer retention Or team training If he is not well versed in the first 2 He can forget about it. Cos it will be wasting money. If his training is teaching him only to believe in himself Or The "you need to get two and you earn this and these two get another two and you earn this" training With no actual business skills or sales skills being taught... He is wasting money. THIS IS PAYOUT PLAN. THIS IS NOT BUSINESS PLAN OR SALES STRATEGY. MLM ppl tend to give me payout plan when I ask them what's their strategy. They don't even know! If he is being fed a mindless motivational babble every single meeting then he's wasting money If he is attending trainings And he is just listening to other people's stories of rag to riches or product working wonders testimonials He is wasting money. Those are not useful at all.. I wasted my time paying 5 dollars for some antioxidant company where they waste my time with all the above. There is no TRAININGS that they claimed. NS. So I'm speaking from personal experience.

[@TajyeRoberson]

That is the most gangster come back to that objection I’ve EVER heard. I’m taking this!

[@RealSocialProof]

Great to hear that ! 👏🏾

[@littlekingofthebirds]

Why? Its an illogical and easily refuted argument. He's won the argument against himself, but not against actual facts. Facts like most people engaged with network marketing LOSE money. No one at McD's is losing money after they worked their shift. Nobody out here is contesting that CEOs make billions more dollar than their minimum wage workers, but the catch is that the minimum wage workers are still making money. Good luck using this on a real person tho.

[@5starathlete804]

@@littlekingofthebirdsproblem with MLM are they don’t tell you the thing you gonna be doing or the opportunity you getting lmao.

[@giftedlife777]

run with it!!

[@fleurelise997]

@@5starathlete804 Yep! And that's because it's not an actual business opportunity 😂

[@DannySeguignol]

everyone want to make money and when there responsible and fail they complain about the system there in

[@RealSocialProof]

Sad truth!

[@ritishkumar4409]

Point is not that only the person on top makes the money 70% people under them makes less than 2000 dollar a YEAR thats when you know you have paid more worked hard to make the top person earn more

[@arlenesetefano7518]

All the while people still come on here and make their KZbin shorts about how it didn’t work for them and bash the company… yet their the ones who gave up and didn’t put in the work to see it succeed. Think and Grow rich by Napoleon Hill “when faced with defeat the easiest and most logical thing to do is quit. Thats exactly what the majority of people do” and then want to complain about how it’s the company’s fault. Make it make sense. Just say you’re a quitter and don’t believe in yourself and move on. 😂

[@scarletdeflor]

So dumb! Only the people at the top make any money. Some at the bottom make pennies. Others make nothing at all. In fact, most people lose their cash, Einstein!

[@PatrickAung93]

Tell me you don't understand this video without telling me you don't understand this video 😂

[@raissatm1959]

The people at the top make all the money

[@RealSocialProof]

Unfortunately, yes! But if people at the bottom won't do anything, they will stay stagnant.

[@burnout.c]

People at the bottom will never make the most money because then they become the people at the top.

[@HunnyeB]

Network marketing isn’t a real job and anyone involved in network marketing it’s just wasting their time

[@RealSocialProof]

Different perspective. Would love to hear more from you about this.

[@Sameer-kun]

Network marketing is obv not a Job. It's a business where you build a system.. And working for someone else is wasting time and you never be successful...

[@giftedlife777]

what about the ones who make Full time incomes? Have you ever heard of if one can do it anyone can?

[@giftedlife777]

@@Sameer-kun true words!

[@rockyblumble]

except when you're the entrepreneur starting the mlm.

[@traciebecker6669]

MLMs are always a scam, dude..

[@hopolang99]

It’s only a scam if you believe if it is a scam

[@todayuncensored]

but only in network marketing do YOU have to pay to work for this "team"

[@PatrickAung93]

Only in MacDonald do I have to pay millions to start a BRAND NEW shop at a BRAND NEW location. That is okay if people go broke. But MLM... Let's condemn it cos it charges people 100 bucks a year. 😊

[@ajmelendez7370]

The restaurant industry. Especially fine dining establishments!

[@michaeltrujillo4567]

It’s not the amount of money people are making. Cause this point is absolutely right. But it’s the flow of money on the business

[@tylert4271]

Become the .1% or work for the .1%. Either way you'll be above or below somebody, fiscally speaking. Bring the right mindset and you can be above, but only the truly tenacious, a very small %. Many below will be haters but you need them too, it's how that tenacity, and character, is built. They're known as the .1% for good reason.

[@Super_abundance]

Job is better much better having your own traditional business.

[@PatrickAung93]

Finally a sensible statement. I agree with you.

[@Super_abundance]

@@PatrickAung93 In network marketing sometimes you feel your self a scammers and because of your efforts somebody else will earn more, it’s better do job do savings and start the habit of investing on those assests and properties those will give good returns in future. Not everybody have high motivation which need for network marketing.

[@tacitvrn]

This a common argument used by MLM apologists. It contains a sliver of truth to dupe people into thinking that it's a good rebuttal to the fact network marketing is a straight up scam. The reality is an overwhelming percentage of people in a network marketing scheme lose money. It's designed to enrich the few at the top.

[@musicdiary5768]

I cant show you an industry within capitalism where the people at the bottom are making the most money but I can at least point to you *several* that doesn’t sell you a false dream and investment tactics that make you lose more time and money than you earn.

[@ryanziller220]

The ability for someone to enter into the service sector without having a background in business management or general contracting and expect to capitalize on the social capital of any secroral network whilst simply marketing self help to people is the obvious fraud most direct sales associates engage in.

[@shana4sure14]

No only people at the top actually make money. I can introduce you to an industry where people are making money. It may not be millionaire status but they are actually making a profit compared to the people at the "bottom" of an mlm

[@MrRatul1987]

There is no industry in which ppl at bottom makes most money...but at least they make some wage on a daily basis unlike the bottom liner of any network marketing company. There, plain and simple.

[@bushdid91195]

The difference is that people in real businesses worked for what they got, as opposed to getting in on a scam before everyone else did and essentially getting lucky with no real skill or knowledge If that business ever goes tits up, you have nothing to fall back on. And thats if you're even being honest about your so-called wealth, or just going into debt so you can buy a car that isn't within your means in order to look, but not actually be, wealthy, like most "successful" people in MLMs

[@PatrickAung93]

If you ever want to succeed in this industry You will need leads generation skills You will need appointment setting skills You will need presentation skills You will need sales negotiation skills You will need customer care customer retention skills You will need team training skills.

[@TVKStudios]

everyone that was on top were at the bottom at some point

[@dharamjeetsingh8447]

In network marketing top people make money from selling products to their own team where other make money selling products to customers.

[@PatrickAung93]

So it's similar to insurance? They have customers attached to each respective agents and the agent keep following up with them and when the insurance contract ends... SELL THEM A NEW FRESH CONTRACT Ask for referral! Give them incentives if they want to, at their own discretion!

[@BurningDesire_letsgo]

PROBLEM IS, TOO MANY EXCUSES AND NOT ENOUGH ACTIONS BEING TAKEN!!! 1) Make sure you actually have a product or a service that actually does what’s it’s supposed to do. 2) It provides more value than the actual price you’re paying for it. 3) The actual tax advantages you have if you have a good CPA who knows what they doing. 3) It actually takes effort on your part to WORK!!!!

[@RealSocialProof]

Thanks for breaking that down. 🤝🏾

[@bartolo1442]

Agreed, life has been getting better since applying the knowledge from the industry #NoExcuses

[@ellezayn]

They don't know what they don't know. They will never know what they don't want to know. Some people are great hard workers and they are proud of living their lives to building other people's business, the 8-5-ers, some are great at owning their own jobs, some are great at owning systems, some are great at investing and some will never learn simply because they are not open.

[@DarkSkinT]

@@ellezaynwhy do y’all give a fuck though? More money for y’all

[@bettyboop2468]

You have to be a slick talker like this to make money. As a person who has done many mlms, he makes my stomach turn.

[@PatrickAung93]

I am not a slick talker. I just use REAL STATS and CASE STUDIES to win my argument. Would you like to start a debate with me? Or will your stomach do a complete 360 when you hear the truth?

[@shravankumar05]

Network marketing works for people who make it work

[@dwaynecheatom6859]

Show me the network marketing company that pays you even 30 grand py starting out.The fact of the matter is good products sell themselves. If I have to take 60 minutes to sell you on every product I have the product is bs

[@daydreamer.742]

How did they get on top? Everyone has to start somewhere! Right???

[@edwinlopez3982]

Exactly, good point haha

[@swathibudumuru77]

The people at the bottom also make money in Network marketing That industry name is VESTIGE MLM Company

[@rj091710]

You’ll make more money flipping houses

[@benworthmore621]

It’s a lot of hurt feelings in these comments😅

[@TajyeRoberson]

A LOT! 😂😂😂

[@trolltracker]

Yes, poor reasoning & scams hurt people

[@akl000]

Yup, I can bet you half the people who commented were in Network marketing didn't putting in the work and now they're complaining. They want quick money, now that is scam like.

[@benworthmore621]

@@akl000 💯 facts

[@moaziz23]

MLM are scams folks. This guy got rich by scamming people. In the end, it never ends well for any scammer. And I mean any scammer.

[@gennaromarfella7179]

the problem with your pyramid scam is that if you bring in 5 people and they all bring in 5 people each, you are at 31. You can only do this 10 or 11 times and you have brought in the whole world. and even then there are 70% in the bottom row that earn € 0.00😂

[@PatrickAung93]

It never happen. Even with Amway. Amway still have recognition event every year including last year. They should have recruited everyone by now. But if you argue that "it proves it doesn't work since the entire world isn't recruited" then why does Amway still have recognition if it doesn't work???? LOGIC. PEOPLE. LACKING.

[@user-wy1et9dk9w]

You should call people out on their bs

[@ENTREPREGOD1]

I made 2.5 Million in MCA when it was around. Rodney Walker. I basically branded black people into network marketing in 2012

[@FDlmao]

WORLDWIDE ENTREPRENEURS is the industry that can make people make money if you're in a bottom

[@Tiffany-un3hw]

MLM is still a scam regardless of how good his argument sounds. You’ll end up paying more money for materials than you’ll end up making.

[@PatrickAung93]

Then don't pay for materials.

[@Mo-yg9kl]

I hope he meant to say “only the top 1% make money and anyone below that usually end up losing money” 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@BigMike1784]

This guy is good. He has literally convinced himself that scamming his own people is ok. The funny thing is that platforms like this help them do it. They are supporting his comments and laughing with him. They were not prepared to challenge him. They were ready to sign up and recruit their family and friends 🤣😂. He is a professional MLM industry expert. He knows how to answer all the questions. This ain't his first rodeo. Sad, just sad!!

[@NealRiggers1350]

People at the bottom are called temp labor or hourly employees

[@LalallaSN]

Most of yall don't understand is that when you are introducing people into the network. You are directly or indirectly competing with each other...Another issues is all your marketing and supply chain are vender locked by that MLM company. So who's really benefiting in this? If you're a really entrepreneur, no way you would lose your leverage and get vendor locked like this. You truly have no control over your business...This guy is a scammer, there a so many of this rhetoric for decades. Stay safe and don't lose your money to MLM.

[@nonameanon9368]

Reverse psychology bs

[@HastDuWasSuchen]

It incentivises immoral business ethics more than most other industries.

[@TajyeRoberson]

The whole economic system promotes indentured servitude which is ethically high on the immoral scale.

[@HastDuWasSuchen]

@@TajyeRoberson 1. There are countries with vastly different economic systems. Talking as if every country's economic system would be the same is foolish at best. 2. Do you even know what indentured servitude means? It's a form of labour in which a person is contracted to work without salary for a specific amount of time. That's something that is definitely not promoted in my country so your point is rubbish in my eyes. 3. On top of that, your comment makes no sense in response to my original comment. Even if I'd agree with your argument, which I don't, that still wouldn't justify one industry behaving more immoral than the others. You're basically suggesting this idea of "I can do stuff I shouldn't do because others are doing it too". Perfect example of whataboutism and just a weak excuse for people acting like pigs.

[@TajyeRoberson]

@@HastDuWasSuchen remember… the true currency for humans is Time. A commodity that once spend you cannot get back. You spend your time for goods and services.

[@lmusima3275]

Network marketing. Pyramid schemers. The business of charismatic leaders, mind control, selling a dream, emotional blackmail, gaslighting, lying, trickery and scamming

[@andreipopescu349]

😂MLM is a sinking ship and you will drown with it

[@giftedlife777]

you need the right mentor

[@christianaagbedepeter6528]

Like seriously?? Sooner or later you will understand

[@Sameer-kun]

That's truly makes sense

[@RealSocialProof]

Really making sense. 💯

[@AAK-ne4wv]

@@RealSocialProof no it doesn’t. Here are a few examples: real estate sales, fixed income sales, financial planning/mgmt, I can keep going… there are plenty of examples of careers where self-employed individuals can make as much as people who are in upper management positions of corporations.

[@Sameer-kun]

@@AAK-ne4wv Self employed people don't have people in the top.. You dumb.. But if you're in an organization obv top people make the most money... Self employed ones they have the freedom and not controlled by anyone.. Get the facts right..

[@fleurelise997]

@@AAK-ne4wv As long as they're not "self-employed " n network marketing.

[@moneyfarmerorganization7088]

Powerful 👍

[@youcef9650]

How to use the reverse UNO card 😂😂

[@misterlonestar]

But at least other industry are made some kind of money. MLM only 1% make money most go into debt.. mmm that 😅

[@AlbaMBBT]

Lol your argument is nonsense.. When you have a job you get payed every hour. When you work MLM you work and sel stuf you don't make money but the guy above you makes monoy on you..

[@edwinlopez3982]

It’s a business, which you know nothing about since you work a job

[@yosimarmorales6365]

I would rather be making 7 dollars an hour, then to be in a MLM company where the people in the bottom make NO MONEY!!

[@PatrickAung93]

I can show you millions of business start up that fails, made no money or lose money. I wish they have the luxury of saying the same thing as you when they first started their business

[@fulltimefreedom10ktravelbuddy]

❤

[@wes__ai]

It's the other way around... Only the ppl that make the most money go to the top.

[@rockyblumble]

Rule number 1, don't join MLM schemes. Start them.

[@rhm987]

This is bullshart. Network marketing, direct sales, now high ticket sales, ALL Bullshart. I’ve never done any of it and I know it’s a scam.

[@DuBzarzy]

.Those that aren’t in any MLM and just teach others how to make money in network marketing😂 the proof is in the pudding. So… I ask why teach network marketing when you can just live the life you always wanted and join an MLM and embrace the life of uncapped income 😂 these investors… I swear.

[@PatrickAung93]

Same as saying why do teachers teach when they can make all the money by actually doing it.

[@DuBzarzy]

@@PatrickAung93To paraphrase the words of George B. Shaw (1903) those that can DO. Those that can't teach.

[@PatrickAung93]

​@@DuBzarzy Shaw in his eloquent verbiage was suggesting that teachers are those that do not know or have not learnt their discipline. They are the embodiment of the failed artist that we would read about in Dickensian novels who would precariously balance above the breadline through the only apparent outlet available to them, teaching, as they had failed in their field. Shaw not only makes the assumption that those with knowledge in a discipline would want to do that discipline as a primary career but also makes the further assumption that teaching is not a discipline in itself and is somehow deficient in its requirement for active engagement, the ‘doing’. That is why twenty-first century teaching is different. We now better understand how children learn and the importance of subject knowledge alongside pedagogy and practice. As a profession, we are investing in the ‘can’ of teaching and learning through professional learning networks, research and interrogation of what really works. So, in today’s age, not only would I question Shaw’s assertion that teaching is not in itself a discipline but also the fundamental misconception, in Shaw’s view, that you can teach without knowledge. I see teaching as the ‘can’ and more; can+ is how I would like to view it. It requires significant knowledge, expertise and pedagogical understanding. Every time I now hear Shaw being quoted, I will rephrase to ‘Those that can do and those that can, and can do more (can+), teach’! Also... Trying to discredit my argument is as good as false equivalent fallacy. You are flying too close to the sun and close to roasting all teachers world wide. Not just in MLM. But thanks for giving me new things to learn. Although it is totally irrelevant to what we are initially debating about

[@jwill5892]

But with network marketing, when you refer others, you make more money.

[@PatrickAung93]

Try recruiting without selling products. If you earn money, then I can show you a pyramid scheme.

[@CheungAdoniszu]

you already answered it yourself, there is no top if there is no bottom

[@giftedlife777]

My mentor Robert Hollis a legend says to this yes and I am that Guy! Dont you want to be too?

[@samirs8140]

Bro needs lessons in basic math and pyramid schemes.

[@PatrickAung93]

You need lesson in critical logical thinking.

[@legendmakers617]

Facts

[@jaronbalfour3711]

Nobody make money from smart why you advertising and Nobody make any none of your programs in nvisionu

[@libconservative3481]

Does network marketing provide for a fixed income, insurance, sick leaves?

[@edwinlopez3982]

No because that’s called a job, MLM is a business

[@libconservative3481]

@@edwinlopez3982 business? How when you have an up-line telling you what to do?

[@PatrickAung93]

​​@@libconservative3481have you ever heard of "group of companies"? They are literally a group of 2 or more companies grouped under 1 big companies. Does the CEO of the smaller companies become non business owners because they work for a big company at the top? Don't they have to listen to the big company rules and regulations DESPITE them being business owners???? Doesn't WhatsApp have to follow Facebook after FB purchase them???? HELLO??? Welcome to real life buddy! Stop chucking the antimlm KOOL AID

[@zahra_plus]

Thinking

[@PianoMan-hx3ev]

Yes, show me an industry where all the people at the bottom make the most money.

[@Pootypatooty]

It’s a scam?? Please don’t let anyone convince you network marketing will work for you because you will most likely lose a lot of money

[@PatrickAung93]

Define " a lot of money". How much will you lose in MLM exactly?

[@orionparsons7631]

It's not that the people at the top make the most money the people at the top make ALL the money this argument I a fallacy based on that alone in a normal industry the people at the bottom make at least enough money in all MLMs everyone except the people on top of course don't even make enough money too live on and it's literally impossible too move up

[@shyam2630]

People at the bottom give the money 😂😂 in network marketing

[@loveowan3369]

FAXXXXX

[@user-sv5si9zp3c]

Hiii

[@RickJean144]

Final Boss Scammers

[@mk061g9]

UPS

[@dontworrywelltalkitout9625]

Wow he discovered capitalism

[@believeafricasports506]

SCAM

[@5starathlete804]

That’s not accurate. The problem with MLM is that they don’t tell what it is you doing at all until you are in buying all those stupid products

[@Thee_Khadijah]

Insurance... nice try tho