Is Nexon Making A Mistake? (Season 1: Invasion News and Info) / The First Descendant

[@redfieldson]

Not a mistake. We will have new content in a few days, but people are creating all this storm in a teacup because they can't wait for a 40-day gap.

[@x1Bozz]

Yep. I was excited about Ultimate Freyna. But now we have to wait another 2 months....

[@roguerage9328]

Yes man, they could be hero’s and evolve by getting content out faster. ( trust me, they already have it) it’s only a matter of time until everyone will up and leave anyway. Borderlands 4 will pull massive amounts of people away in 2025.

[@CarySmith87]

​@roguerage9328 a lot of people are gonna leave when Vessel of Hatred drops in October, and as you mention borderlands 4, haha I'm sure everyone is gonna be all over that when it drops.

[@matthewsmith7947]

well as a destiny 2 player for 10 years and seeing how time gating content in there, i can see a downside which is you have to wait for content which they hyped up but the upside is you dont give everything to everyone all in one go cos in the end the player base will still drop off anyways cos everyone has everything within the 1st few weeks of it releasing and a season lasting a few months, so in the end its kinda hard to balance that out.

[@joegoodge2566]

i could stomach a main season patch then a mid-season patch the mods releasing 2 months after the descendant comes out is actually insane

[@matthewsmith7947]

@@joegoodge2566 yea I agree of you are releasing Hailey she should have her transcendant mods on day one for sure

[@redgent7058]

What players have been asking for: -ability to paint default skins -no more void shards -no amorphous patterns (bosses should just drop set stuff) -no more rigged drop rates -ability to try new builds out without recatalyzing and releveling -crystals transferring over to ultimates -reduced shop prices -ai friendlies (albion soldiers and descendants in the field with you) -vehicles -more immersive, co-op friendly missions -a general respect towards the time, money, and intelligence of the player base What the developers have done so far: -valby run nerf -reduced outpost timers -rigged drop rates on said outposts -drip feed content This game is going to need way more content if it to survive. Dropping new characters, skins, solo dungeons, and reskinned bosses with team wipe mechanics every several months isn't going to cut it.

[@blancodiablo8788]

Well, I guess I may be back in October. Freyna was the only big thing I was looking forward to. I’ve learned my lesson with vanilla characters and I’m only interested in the the Ult variant

[@templargfx]

I can almost guarantee that your only going to be able to unlock the new chick by doing these invasion dungeons, each piece will have a small chance to drop and you'll only get 2 chances per day. I cannot see that going down well with the community at all

[@TheJarlath9]

I got all ults for free and my friends got atleast 1 or 2 ults if they keep things the same im fine with it

[@ItaChu787pr]

Already got the Platinum not interested in this grind game anymore 😅

[@f4b_YT]

i think this is a mistake ...not rly happy about the update route

[@oumashu5348]

I mean i am completely fine with the schedule following that order if they stay regular on that sequence of updates everymonth we get something new which would be 1 nomral new descendant and 1 ultimate weapon, then 1 ultimate weapon and a new interception boss and finally 1 ultimate descendant, new modules and 1 descendant story quest. Might not seem much but in the grand scheme of things it is a good thing for the longevity of the game warframe does it too with their system of 1 frame, 1 deluxe skin and then 1 prime with a few extra stuff in between

[@RemmiCat]

this isn't a mistake, and has proven to maintain the player base for a longer period of time than outright dumping all of the content on all at once, because grinders will get everything done, and have nothing left to do within 1 month, whereas what Nexon is doing is prolong people putting off the game for extended periods of time.

[@check_mate8768]

So if grinders get little to no content to work with will happen then? It’s definitely a bad idea I’m so bored RN and you’re telling me I got to wait for more content that’s crazy

[@angelus877]

This is a slow death, but its still death. You think that hardcore people gonna show up every other month? You are incorrect, among them are content creators and because there is nothing to cover and so guides are barely made, people stop watching and game dies. Releasing all at once satisfies the hardcore more than drip feeding and casuals arent affected at all.

[@FoXyBoXy126]

@@check_mate8768you are not the only one playing, simply play other games. And if you are saying that you are bored and have nothing to do grind all of the ultimate weapons 4 times to max them

[@check_mate8768]

@@FoXyBoXy126 I’ve already max out all the good guns, there’s nothing else to do.. so it’s okay to make the game slower because of people not being able to get 1 descendant fast enough if they do this they’ll definitely lose players

[@victorygo]

1month? you mean 1week right?

[@thomaswells6448]

Seriously I'm taking a break now because of little to do in game and was looking forward to playing again in 7 days but after reading this drip feed BS I'm just going to shelve the game until Late Oct now, if I even come back at all. Lots of great games coming out soon anyway. Bye Nexon

[@RobinWipes]

One that baffles me is that, we get hailey in 1st update then her modules on 3rd update.🤷🏻

[@bobmalarkey4621]

The biggest mistakes are making the new themed season invasions a completely solo activity and having the higher tier difficulty added two months from now. Who cares about new characters that are literally copy paste of existing ones. We need things to do and definitely need a rework of the xp gains. All of this is typical mobile game tactics from ten years ago.

[@chioxin]

There will always be an "xp farm" or whatever. I get it, Can't get away from it. What I really want though, is to get proper XP out of running dungeons and doing colossi fights. Reward me in XP/Gold/Kuiper by doing content... not by finding a wall I can roll against to shock everything or a ring to run around with valby to kill all the things. Bleh

[@TheCnicus]

Lot of people are already hesitant on upgrading normal descendants when that time/ resource could be saved for the eventual ultimate versions, but now with normal gear being dripfed why even bother investing into her on release when builds and metas will change by the time her kit is complete lol I'll try her out but cba to max her

[@paatrick_jay]

I dont think the timegating is yhe issue. They shouldnt of teased her if they were gonna make people wait. Thats whats burning everyones cheeks and they got they pitchforks out

[@XeroJin84]

sure, but at the same time youtubers made the assumption with no confirmation. People shouldn’t be upset at someone else because they made a bad assumption after looking at a trailer.

[@JamescMichel]

As long as they add something for the players to do outside of a new descendant, it will be okay. It has to be enough to keep people playing until the next update, though.

[@a2daj83]

timegate = trash, especially when it was advertised as whole package.

[@iPeanutJelly]

I think they timegated in the wrong order. Freyna, hailey, and the trader should of been day 1 patch. People play this game for the descendants for the most part. The other things like the dungeons and stuff can come later imo. People prefarmed just to be shut down instantly with a 2 month timegate. Its pretty demoralizing to the players who wanted to grind freyna day 1

[@zorotarded178]

The absolute only mistake they’ve made is being too transparent with their player base and too responsive. It doesn’t sound bad but people rather than respect what other companies won’t do just expect more and expect for ALL of their wishes to come true. They need to take a step back with some of the announcements.

[@bkelso61]

TFD is taking primarily from Warframe. Freyna being in October makes perfect sense especially if you have played Warframe and know how primes coming out work.

[@curtdazzle9416]

Personally, i like all of the content dropped at once, specifically so that i can go "all in" and then play another game for a bit. I need breaks from games in order to keep from getting burnt out. When DESTiNY went to their "drip feed" content release style, i tapped out. If i buy a pack of STARBURST candy, im not gonna be satisfied eating one piece per week. But, eating the entire pack in one sitting is fulfilling. 😂

[@ryanpottle6443]

Every single person knows that as soon as you drop new game content the race to complete it starts. If they drop everything at once players are going to be done with it in a day and complain that there isn't enough content. A drip feed is literally the only way to make sure player engagement stays relatively consistent.

[@moy9948]

Escava just sounds like an Electric Quicksilver. The thing about the time gating is the fact that all the marketing indicated that Ult and Freyna, Death Stalker and everything was coming day one. On top of that, the actual time between releases, waiting 2 whole months for Ult Freyna and Hailey's red mods is not the way.

[@steffanocornejo6129]

Ya the trailer made it seem like all that stuff would be day one because that's what they're mainly promoting. When I saw the schedule my interest dropped hard bc I was like this feels like leading u on. I'm happy I'm waiting till October after seeing how awful Hailey grind is

[@DonCarver.]

I still have tons left to do, so a drip feed for now isn’t that bad for me personally. However if I get to the point where I’ve completed everything this drip feed is a bad idea. It pays to be chasing rather than in 1st place.

[@XeroJin84]

Ask yourself this, would you rather have a chunk of players drop after the first month until season 2 or would you rather have those people jump in and out month to month?

[@haze6894]

ask yourself this, is one new intercept boss and a weapon on september 26th enough to even keep players for a week or 2? let alone till the 30th of october

[@themadtagger6450]

​@@haze6894if they have fun playing the game whether or not they get something new. Yeah absolutely i have everything after 400 hours and still log in and play daily. It's called playing a game for having fun as opposed to playing a game for a reward that doesn't matter outside of the game.

[@InnocentiousVHS]

Its nexon,they always manage to fk up like in Dirty Bomb,Ghost in the Shell,Mapplestory 2,Vindictus,The Finals,Combat Arms,Counter Strike Online,Icarus online,Warhaven,Hyper Universe etc....

[@BetaVein]

I think they are going to do some bug fix or balance adjustment during those month but two month is still too long, can't wait for Ult Freyna

[@eproductions5115]

this strat works and sometimes it dosent. for example, gachas do this all the time with events, and it does retain players however they commonly complain about it feeling like a chore

[@spl-pro8101]

I was excited till i saw them delaying content. This game needs more content now. Everyone grinding same 4 activities 2 more months 😂

[@roguerage9328]

I’m burning out bro, re leveling, farming percentages that are not real, I’m getting frustrated. I have 1000 or more hours in Warframe so Ik how this works. I have 400+ hours in this game. Something is off though. It just never fucking drops some things!

[@linkart1910]

i'm disapointed of ultimate freyna helmet.. why they keep given this helmet's.

[@NinthCircleGaming]

Didn't Nexon push an update almost a week ahead of schedule? I imagine the schedule is there because they're working on things still, ironing out bugs and making sure it doesn't make the game unplayable. If things progress smoothly i can dee things coming out sooner, also events during the invasion was mentioned i believe.

[@animeking26]

The only two things they need to switch is the release of the robot vendor and ultimate freyna should have been on the 29th update everything else is whatever

[@flakcannon722]

If they dumped all the content at once they would have massive average playerbase drop off after 3 or 4 weeks. Deploying content in 3 parts over the 3 month patch cycle is smart as a company and will retain more players

[@moonrivervayonetta]

Problem is they fucked up the execution and the time table was a bit of a "lie" before the season 1 timegate schedule. Everyone thought about all of this drop on day 1. I'd be fine if they announced properly earlier

[@gandhichoron1365]

They baited people into thinking they're gonna drop all new contents on day 1. Nexon one step forward, ten steps backwards.

[@Lordhakai241]

But there is no content lil bro. It's reskinned operations that you complete twice a day for the entire season. That's new content to you? Reskinned operations? The same areas, the same levels, that's new content to you?

[@XeroJin84]

@@gandhichoron1365they didn’t bait shit. You made an assumption after seeing a trailer. Your assumption was wrong and you’re upset at them for you making an uninformed assumption. LMFAO

[@generalvodka5233]

hell no, there's no reason to play atm and the new season barely adds content.

[@asadrizvi6038]

@RemmiCat, completely agree. Releasing things in doses will be ,in my opinion,the right way to go about it. Allow the player to focus on a limited amount of objectives, so they won't feel overwhelmed. I see this only failing if the content being released is "boring", non engaging.

[@Lordhakai241]

In laymens terms we're getting - reskinned operations made for solo speedruns that you complete a day - hailey and new destiny 2-like artifact leveling system tied to reskinned solo ops - 1 weapon A month later - 1 new boss Another month later - freyna ult - freyna storyline (one and done questline) - vendor - hailey mods - more rekinned higher difficulty operations With QoL sprinkled throughout the season So basically all we're really getting are reskinned operations made for solo speedruns 😂 thats the season content This is worse than GTA Online updates 😂

[@phasedthrough3647]

I stopped playing, a lot of friction with the poor keybinds on controller mixed in with the extremely unforgiving scaling when adding more players in early bosses, and aim assist being too strong on controller snapping my aim away from weak points when I was dead on before scoping in

[@KUD4H]

I'm with you with the aim assist thing. It's almost like they didn't even test it on controller. Completely unusable. Turn down the Aim assist stick setting. Makes a world of difference.

[@bkelso61]

Anyone that has a problem with Freyna being in October haven't played Warframe and it shows.

[@rattango9819]

The real issue is to me at least is the fact they released too many ultimates at once. The fact that we have almost half the roster's ultimate form should goes to show farming for the basic version is kinda bad. They should have space it out a bit more, at the very least just the ultimates. Normal releases are fine so far in my eyes. It's going too fast and player will be burnt out very quickly. The activity are kinda killin it for me right now. I'm fine with grinding with a mission (like to get an ultimate, weapon, etc, etc.) But grinding for gold, exp feels bad. They need to loosen the gold bottleneck a bit because right now its a bit too tight.

[@bkelso61]

3 of the base game ultimates were present in the beta ( not playable but they were there ). All they did was add 2 more, albeit with big stupid ass helmets. My only problem with ultimates was how they were gonna handle dropping them. 2-3 months in between makes sense to me since I've played Warframe, where that system was popularized.

[@hussenamad4784]

Addictive players need to slow down and for the players with 300 hrs or more just chill and enjoy the game

[@xspindrift8737]

I will check back in October.

[@hussenamad4784]

I just finished the story or normal mode and I'm playing the game from the first week and for me I'm really not free to finish everything early hopefully tomorrow I start invasion though my time limited

[@FedDonovan]

Hey clady where is the new video since they walked back . Can't wait

[@skympii6734]

Only content creators are getting hurt about this, like i like the game too have all ult versions and guns but i dont mind the update being spread like that, after getting all the new stuff gives me time to try out other games especially now there's lots of new games to try, if you think this is bad look at the new wow expansion only normal dungeon for now and the pvp will be open after 3 weeks

[@HippieLP]

Seeing this... I'll be back on October 30th 🤷🏻‍♂️ no reason to really play before then.

[@jon7605]

Season one schedule is definitely gonna be pretty noticeably clunky

[@Sloth2456]

Baro kateer : yo..what up ? 😂

[@SnoopVee]

i dont mind the wait but i think they released the content in the wrong order.....thats all. I hope they do better next season.

[@minghoe-zv9ph]

Difference is we are not gated week to week

[@DirtySancheeezz]

I droped the game about a month ago got to endgame and i didnt find it fun that much ill check the new update and see how the things will wrol out

[@Champagneonly]

I held off on upping my Freyna for this smh

[@alexanderbuentello6702]

Honestly might just be a wrap for me. Time gated nonsense is just that. Nonsense. More like, no sense in playing this game much anymore

[@Alirezarz62]

The fact that some people are defending this is crazy to me

[@soldierplays4616]

It’s even worse in TFS because this game is all about the grind compared to destiny where you can log in do quests and log off. Idk why they resorted to destiny style content cadence especially after how it’s been received by the community Plus this game has a major issue where normal descendants don’t get fully built because of ultimate frames and the whole xp thing sitting in caves and maxing slots for 8 hours is just mind bogglingly boring

[@ozunad144]

Biggest mistake harley mods 😂😂😂 bro Has anyone found out if the shitty mods for Harley will be there on the 29th! Or do they really want to go through with it and only bring it into play two months later? Please tell me that they made a mistake because English doesn't work that way for them :)))

[@rockmanex7506]

Overwhelmingly UNDERWHELMING more downtime for me i guess

[@REYIGWKO]

in short terms, yes this is a massive mistake. They failed to capitalize.

[@FlippedCard]

drip fed content will kill this game

[@YoureOblivious33]

L Timegatting Bungie 2.0 is a no no

[@ricksanchez7849]

LoL the playerbase will drop more because of this dripfeeding content.

[@Bori-X-1]

We getting Hailey , we getting new weapons , we getting a new season , we getting a bunch of fixes and buffs and people still complain on a free game 😂

[@angelus877]

Wow gee thanks for 2 hours of content after waiting for 3 weeks. Jeeepers mister

[@felipez3115]

Awnn is a free game, so? Still incomplete poorly made.

[@iamspeed403]

Be waiting everything in one update as well baby ass community 😂

[@TheCnicus]

Enjoy a new character that's pointless to upgrade on release because you won't have full access to her kit for another 2 months lmao. Lot of ppl will buy her and crystals to upgrade her in 2 weeks (or waste time playing to invest into her) only to gut their build when new metas are discovered via her tranc mods that come out in October.

[@fogz]

Because they want ultimate release cuz ult valby came out same day as luna did 😂 these people are funny af

[@starsk7315]

Is Hailey singular or fusion?

[@glovebox421]

this will be the death of the game. ive seen it before and its nothing new. they wana milk but all their users are guys and not interested to be milked.

[@goosestockton]

I could care less about a new ult right now honestly, not that serious it’s still preseason/season 1, like damn let the game be out for a year before you start giving a real opinion 🙄

[@daydreaminsanity]

While I acknowledge that time-gating may be detrimental to content creators, I'm fine with it. Nevertheless, please stop being so entitled. Aside from those who are playing the game nonstop, timegate has little effect on the overall gameplay because there are a ton of grinds involved in the game.

[@LI_MIGI]

I see more content than destiny

[@AnArmyOfFatGuys26]

The only thing I'm mad about is the speed running missions. What I hear is "Bunny only or don't even try". I don't want to play bunny for literally everything other than void bosses, which some of them she's still amazing against.

[@themiddleman1670]

they update it, they swap it

[@revan1395]

I'm ok with how there gonna do season one but would of definitely preferred Freyna, Hailey and the frost watcher to all drop on the same day since ultimate Freyna is what I was most looking forward to farm and with frost watcher being perfect for viessa I was gonna farm that to since I got my viessa fully maxed

[@colettenilo3006]

season 1 is awful. terrible. i was all about this game until yesterday when season 1 dropped. my over 500 hours in the game are about to go to zero here on out. smh

[@Zahran14H]

For me i like it 🎉

[@Nyxesgaming]

It's either this or getting everything at once and have nothing to do for months. This is better imo. Sure they could do better and release more content after this big patch but that's not what's happening. My only issue is waiting 2 months for haileys mods, thats a weird move.

[@monokrome]

Have nearly nothing to do for the first 2 months followed by absolutely nothing to do or have nothing to do for the last two months because you got to grind the things you wanted... Seems like getting everything up front is still the clear winner to me. Also, "nothing to do"? You can still play the game. Help people with bosses. Run some operations. If its not fun after you get all the items in the game then why is it fun before you get them? Use them, have fun. There's definitely not "nothing to do".

[@little_error295]

@@monokromeon god people are slow like if people are burning through all the content too fast what do you think is going to happen when you only release 1/3 of it every month 😂

[@Nyxesgaming]

@@monokrome you're under the impression for whatever reason that I'll have everything before we get the second patch. There's still many things from pre season I need farm for. I'm not burnt out at all. 5 descendants to farm still, like 7or 8 ult weapons and characters/weapons I want to max out. Eventually I will catch up and will rather have content drip fed to me so I have things to chase in between patches. It's fine if you disagree but I'm getting the patches the way I like. I honestly don't even see myself having everything by the third patch which is great.

[@caltesss]

That eta-0 better sell code breakers.

[@Celestial_Omega]

just run around in sterile land anticipated ambush point. don't be lazy

[@shooter0784]

lol if I could trade I’d just give them to you I can’t burn through them fast enough 😂

[@Alirezarz62]

Do the anticipated ambush or gold farm in echo swamp.

[@shunnie8482]

Idc at this point these companies are clueless, ran by people who dont play their game. I'll just go back to playing Warframe.

[@rogerelzenga4465]

Ok...... you conveniently left warframe out....... sooo this is a targeted thing.... ok got it.....

[@ogLenas]

People that say Destiny doesn't have any content are really going through it coping with grinding the bunny mines for the next two months.

[@soldierplays4616]

Right lmao in destiny we get so much even if it’s paid that this trash. Mind you I maxed out ult bunny, gley and lepic sitting in the cave. I wanted to smash my head after that experience lol

[@macho8240]

The difference is that TFD is the better game

[@TheCnicus]

Hard to defend Destiny when a large % of TFD playerbase came from there. Lot of us were massive fans of Destiny 1 and less so 2 but we chose to play TFD over that for many reasons. I'm glad there's an alternative for better or worse because destiny has been dead to me for years now. We will see how this game turns out tho as currently im only enjoying it because it's new and that might not last long

[@soldierplays4616]

@@TheCnicus bungies drip fed seasons works because you are not endlessly grinding for something but here in TFS it makes no sense idk why they chose the destiny seasonal path for content cadence

[@dasanistar3284]

Destiny is hot garbage

[@felipez3115]

XP is TERRIBLE, the most important thing and they are not making better?? This should be number 1 priority but people complain about skin colors...

[@Banjall]

Odd I did 80 levels lastnight. The exp is fine.

[@felipez3115]

@@Banjall You think is fine because you didn't reset your character 6,7x.

[@Banjall]

@@felipez3115 I have five characters fully maxed out, not counting six guns. It isn't hard to get experience you just haven't figured it out yet.

[@felipez3115]

@@Banjall If you know a better spot then Fortress cave in the Electric element for void shards please I would like to know, I use components with yellow buffs to character and weapon, after lv 20 it takes way too long to reach 40, And it makes me sleepy to do this nonstop, It takes a lot of time that I could spend doing something else in the game.

[@Banjall]

@@felipez3115 you have the abandoned Refinery Mission which is better than a bunny cave in my opinion. The Valby Farm, there's plenty I've got experience spots.

[@jessicacampos1009]

BECAUSE

[@monokrome]

They are 100% making a mistake. What the fuck?

[@i_am_dusky113]

People are surprised? They literally made us have to get more catalysts now😂 all they do is waste ur time. I’ll stick to warframe, game respects your time

[@dasanistar3284]

Game respects your time 😂

[@InSomnia-99]

Aww yes… complaining 😮‍💨

[@check_mate8768]

I hope this is a mistake

[@daveywavey161]

This is not a mistake, just because content creators like yourself are timegated to release money earning videos !! Stop moaning and trying to change it

[@youboy411]

Very bold thumbnail

[@TheRaienryuu]

Ah yes, the never ending discussion of endless grinders vs people with less time to play/not as hardcore. The grinders will be annoyed not everything drops at once, as they already have completed everything there is to do/get and more casual players can't ever keep up. And people with less time to play can steadily get the content for the game, but the grinders are annoyed they now get smaller content releases, but more often.

[@Impulsiveveins]

Your arguement makes 0 sense lmao, having everything drop at once is beneficial to both grinders and casuals. If you as a casual only have free time to play on certain days or certain times in a month, wouldn’t you want to be able to get most stuff done on your day off? If you are someone who is usually super busy, and reserved a couple days when season one comes out to get a lot done and find out some stuff is delayed to when you will be busy again then you would be upset. So you make no sense

[@little_error295]

If you’re casual them releasing content slower doesn’t magically change your pace if it takes 3 months to beat all the content if they drip feed you the content it is still going to take you 3 months for you to beat 😂 use your head for two seconds

[@shooterssymphony9207]

Geeez Clyde how do you do it? There's some many cry babies in the chat, like the game just came out, play another game if you guys cant wait haha. Like when Destiny 2 first came out , they definitely didn't have anything todo for a couple years .. give it time people..

[@gandhichoron1365]

Ok. It seems Nexon is trying to use drip feeding as a way to give new players time to catch up to pre season players. Good idea, poor execution. Game gonna die with nothing to do in the game.

[@xxXPLOITxx]

Mechanic-ism 😂😂😂 .. bro.. Mech-a-nism ffs youtubers really are dumb

[@TheMax107]

Time gating ruins games

[@ammarjl]

lol copy paste from destiny the artifact every season change

[@Banjall]

Wow these people cry about everything. It's a free fucking game.

[@TheCnicus]

time is money

[@Banjall]

@@TheCnicus nobody is forcing them to play a free game.

[@wraithhe]

​@@Banjallmf yes it's free, that doesn't excuse it from receiving criticism bruh. Just cos something is free doesn't mean we should just swallow shit. Stop acting like a moron

[@shooter0784]

Another game that’s gonna be trashed by cry babies hopefully the devs stand their ground

[@anthonylainez9626]

Pretty much a dead game now, another hell divers 2 lmfao

[@javionholley397]

Not even close they don’t nerf stuff like nerf divers

[@diegochavira2680]

warframe is better