is NSFW art real art? // Reiq

[@REIQ]

WOW Thank you so Much Kristian, I had a blast doing this interview! I thought I was talking a bunch of gibberish but you editing is magic XD. I hope this content help upcoming or already professional artist succeed! Thanks so much!!!! ⭐

[@KristianNeeTV]

Thanks again dude!

[@MarcMcKenzie-qb6or]

Glad to see this interview, Reiq! To use the cliche line, I've been a fan of your work for a number of years now.

[@jubbamerickson3993]

Having obscene cash to move different countries is the only reason you succeded. There are outstanding artists that don't get any recognition purely because of where they live. Yours and everyone else's success came from connections and opportunities other people gave you. It has nothing to do with skill it's pure luck

[@JH-pe3ro]

The title undersells the interview. It covers a lot of ground - "identifying as an artist" vs "working as an artist", learning and creative process and how the surface of drawing pin-ups and guns and cars connects to fundamentals.

[@heiispoon3017]

Im still watching the vid (30 mins in) yup kinda agree with this one. Maybe Kristian will update it

[@mindandbody7971]

Agreed. This interview really opens the mind in taking an unconventional approach as a self taught artist and routes to find lucrative commercial work.

[@abxgajebrvst]

But it was the reason you clicked the video... lol. Seems like a great title and doing what it's supposed to

[@squirrel670]

​@@abxgajebrvst I was going to skip it until this comment popped up while scrolling and I was interested. For me the title was yes, end of story.

[@viks4an]

I like how the people who will say that NSFW art isn't art are exactly the type that've never created anything with their two hands in their entire lives. And the "serious" artists that scoff at the notion of it being art-art are the ivory-tower types that enjoy looking down upon the common rabble.. The former can't understand the simple, mechanical enjoyment of creating a drawing/painting, bringing an idea into the physical world and the sheer delight in learning/developing techniques with which to do this (food for your brain), while the latter believe to be better than their peers, desperately trying to satisfy their own ego. This is basically like having the argument with people weather or not fiction is real literature and if you're wasting your time reading it or not (especially fiction that's not based in the real world/uses real world events as the setting, etc). Any rational person will understand that it is in fact literature and its value is in no way, less than "serious" literature. Nice to hear Reiq's thoughts.

[@pause9635]

Perfectly said man. This exactly.

[@furyberserk]

That's entirely opinion. It's not fact at all.

[@kaizzeart6659]

if anyone studied art for any lenght of time, the old masters, often have their own era's NSFW :-D

[@CelesteLunaRael]

Exactly! Art has always been very broad. Very, very broad. The eurocentric big-wig types are so rigid. But in fact a lot of classical and well studied art have depicted some of the worst of humanity, objectified it, shown brutality, etc. Art is everything we create.

[@kjbrn1867]

nsfw is corrupting. i think one should always seek not for superficial pleasures but for the ones deep in your heart, explore yourself and express it. it's very easy to slip on the nsfw road, because it's very pleasing and addictive and everyone loves it. there's a big difference between nsfw and nudity, and arguments you're providing are not justifying first, only second. i think artist always learns and always should strive for improvement, i'm not only talking about technique wise, but emotionally and meaningfully.

[@NicmationS_YT]

Reiq is one of the first artists i followed online I myself draw suggestive art but usually on accident, but hes a great person too

[@thecheekychoof]

Reiq at this point has been around for so long. Dude got me interested in pin up art almost like 10 something years back. Gotta love this guy for his work 😀

[@stormrider9100]

love Reiq's work, he has been my inspiration for art for the past 4 years

[@cinndvl8312]

This is a really welldone interview, and I love how candid reiq was. As somewhat of an intermediate artist with a modest commission income, almost everything he's said rings true to some extent, and provided really good insight. I hope you both thrive in your fields!

[@kakaiyu]

in response to your question in the title: yes it's real art, the only people who disagree are those who've never had a meaningful physical connection with someone. I draw both sfw and nsfw and nsfw is way harder because you must be much more mindful of anatomy and intimate expression without it feeling trashy

[@Wraith26]

Of course it's art. It takes skills, creativity and years of drawing to achieve a look, a style that makes your art recognize by so many. Also having met Reiq, he's a real cool guy both as an artist and as a human being, very humble and awesome to talk too.

[@tuc-kaankaraayan]

Reiq's tutorials tought me how to draw when i was in a slump and were eager to improve back in highschool. Good feature.

[@pringrings22]

I've known of Reiq's work for over 11 years. What he's saying here is true wisdom!

[@empiricalsmut9419]

Really looking forward to watching this! Not gonna lie, I often feel that I'm not a real artist because it's NSFW material, so getting the input from one of the greats in Reiq should be interesting

[@MoeTea4U]

I have really liked the way Reiq has evolved as an Artist. Also I really like his Sketch book videos.

[@joshknightfall]

This dude is pretty based. I like that he's not romantic about art, it's not about feeding a fantasy of what an artist is. At the same time there's real love for it there.

[@skyness_engine]

I love your art is surreal how good you are. Hearing your story makes me realize why. Keep up the good stuff with your OC´s

[@thekorv95]

aw HELL YEAH. love reiq, his art tip videos have helped me a TON. and i love his art!

[@iluv3dcr]

It's interesting to listen to Reiq. I feel so identified with how he has learned to express himself. I am also Latino and relate to many of his reasons. Seeing that he succeeded and forged his own path gives me an extra push to keep going.

[@yokai_blue1179]

Reiq has been a great inspiration for me to learn and improve art. Thanks for this great interview.

[@pibyte]

Super nice interview! Thank you!

[@CallipygianDrawings]

if you dont feel like watching because of the TITLE, dont worry they dont even asnwer the question, yes the title is shit but Reiq talks alot of good stuff in here.

[@Haregue]

Finally, a proper “Reiq” interview

[@TasyaTasya-g5b]

this is great, thanks kristian and reiq

[@mf--]

To answer the question: yes it is art. Obviously it is art.

[@popkb]

Then AI art is also obviously an art.

[@megamillion5852]

​@@popkb This is so out of nowhere that it's hilarious. Was there an argument you were having with someone else? LMAO

[@dztrict1000]

@@popkb Yes AI is art, although it doesn't bring the same value a piece made by a human would have

[@popkb]

@@megamillion5852 it's not out of nowhere. Nsfw "artists" do the same exact thing ai does, but somehow ai is to blame more just bcs it's not human. Bruh. Don't be a jealous hypocrite, judge with objectivity.

[@joemartin7451]

i watched this whole episode without paying attention that this was Reiq lol. his chunli work is my fav.

[@-obamium5320]

With how many things are considered art, as the definition is so broad that even things made by a machine is considered art, it’s ridiculous that people are still having this discussion of whether or not “NSFW is real art”

[@pauljs75]

Isn't some of the most collectible stuff from the 1950's and 1960's like that? The paintings that would be used for pulp-fiction book covers or used for illustrations in Playboy fall into that risque and pin-up category. I'm pretty sure it's considered art by most.

[@Fool1999]

43:39 this is so true, and I actually like learning new skills just to have them in my arsenal. Edit: Reiq was holding a pen this entire time.

[@NightPhoenixPress]

Reiq is the greatest pin-up artist ever!

[@blackjam2683]

Oof, forget about Adam Hughes, Terry Dudson, David Nakayama, ArtGerm, Elias Chatzoudis... RockinJellyBeans (a favorite of Reiqs)

[@NightPhoenixPress]

@ Naw, Reiq is the guy.

[@NightPhoenixPress]

​@@blackjam2683 Wait... Elias Chatzoudis...him too. Also the greatest!

[@DevilSpade]

god damn storms a queen

[@3ngan498]

If it invoke feelings it's art

[@riverblack123]

NSFW art has been a thing for more than 2000 years in every society ever

[@RendoBaistu]

a whole hour on this simple question, it was drawn by an artist so therefore its art, i saved you 1 hour, 11 minutes, and 54 seconds

[@no-sleep]

loved jigglygirls from back in the day

[@danielcalencar]

Great stuff!!

[@rafike81]

Museums are full of NSFW art

[@mppi]

theres a difference between naked people and NSFW art. one is just the body in its natural form while the other is purposely sexualised

[@rafike81]

@mppi "La maja desnuda", "La Venus di Urbino" "Venus & Adonis" "Rokeby Venus" are explicitly sexualized depictions

[@StevenZephyc]

alright, so when does "natural form" ends and "purposely sexualised" starts. is "La maja desnuda" natural form or sexualized for being the first to include public hair? What about various Leda and the Swan in different stages of getting it on? which one is "natural" and which one is "sexualized"? what about L'Origine du monde that's just a painting of a coochie but is in the body's natural form?

[@rafike81]

@StevenZephyc la maja is sexualized because the paint was ordered as a sexual memento of the woman by her lover. It's literally a nsfw fanart (Goya was in love with her) of an influencer 🤣

[@zzodysseuszz]

@@mppiare you just gonna completely ignore that periods like the renaissance period of ancient Japan is filled with displays of porn with several people or even animals?? Erotica is a thing dude

[@heiispoon3017]

Whoah REIQ!!!

[@ardidsonriente2223]

Define "art" first. IMO if it brings an emotion to the person perceiving it and it was intentionally created with that purpose, then it doesn't matter how you call it, it counts. So humor, terror, NSFW and ASMR totally count.

[@samankucher5117]

i know reiq i subscribed to his channel few years ago :)

[@delusionalhobo6676]

Reiq has some great tutorials on his channel

[@kaizzeart6659]

WTF REIQQQ?????? INTERVIEWW????? Christmas early!!

[@meronyach.]

Some of the greatest artists used to draw nudes, no shame. I feel like pretty much any art can be classy and elegant, if done well. It's all a matter of what the artists wants to make it. And frankly, even the lower brow stuff still has a place in the world, even if its not for everyone's tastes. Great discussions, by the way. Thanks for the video!

[@lemiken]

I need to see that T-Shirt.

[@DigitalArtcast]

Honestly Reiqs passion and self guiding star is why I love his work so much!

[@CelesteLunaRael]

Why is this a question? Yes. And i don't even speak of it in a positively manner. Such subjects have always been a part of art. And art is very broad. And it seems the topics of this video even extend as much further than just the usual pin-up sexy subjects.

[@Chameo-San]

It's hard to get into nsfw today(because literally everyone does it) Plus how do you compete with someone who's got decades of millage😢

[@DMAN99]

Without watching the video. Yes. Considering the low, low standards of what can be considered art. Especially modern art. NSFW artists; while a good chunk draw simple, crude doodles with little technical skill, even more show both passion, talent and hard work within their craft. Genuinely, some of the best artists I’ve seen are either actively producing or have produced nsfw content, just look at the plethora of JP and KR artists that have done both. Plenty of JP doujin artists have transferred their skill set into the actual manga world, Nanashi being a famous example. So yeah, NSFW artists are artists.

[@AscendantStoic]

YES!

[@czeqer]

YES!

[@buhumon123]

I think the main problem of this podcast is that you let your guest ramble, if you see that he's going off topic try to interject and steer him towards the right direction. There are multiple points in which the point that the guest was making is lost in the rambling and the value of his point is lost to the void. The podcast and the guest would have value if it wasn't so misstructured. Plus you should plug not only yourself at the video beginning but the guest as well. One more thing, where are the intros? I know who Reiq is but what about people that don't who is he what is his background how did he get to a place that he is now. Outline the main talking points of what the listener should expect from this podcast and then start talking. Also why is your guest holding a pencil the whole talk ? Your camera is out of focus and your image is blurred. The back lighting makes your faces look dark, you need to close the blinds and mute the light from behind and light from the front or turn towards the windows so natural light is front facing. Also why do I have to google what your guest work looks like? Show his work on screen while giving him an introduction. Also try not to use so many filler words and let there be silence for a moment to collect your thoughts, "like" or "you know" fills air time but in an hour it becomes noticeable. There are soooo many things you can improve.

[@net_spider]

Yes. Nsfw art is real art. Bad art is real art, disgusting art is real art, disturbing art is real art, art we don't understand is real art, etc. Art is art, we can't put arbitrary distinctions on it just because some people don't like it or don't understand it. Are people literally questioning this?

[@scarvello]

Bro just draw what you love, people are too worried about what others will thinks and that makes art feel less organic.

[@arandomkaz]

fuck AI "art" man. This just made me sad, but I feel there will always be a market for man-made art. People that care or want to make something with meaning.

[@seeleunit2000]

Short answer: Yes it is art. And if you can make money off of it then good for you

[@lorensims4846]

Frank Frazetta only created paintings for specific commissions. Ralph Bakshi called Frank's art "pornographic," but it certainly helped sell books and record albums. Frank didn't draw barbarians because he liked barbarians but only because that's what the client wanted.

[@cripstation]

answer: yes time saved: 1hour 11minutes

[@hakuyowane4448]

I haven't seen your video just yet but I know it is because in history a lot of art was NSFW. Looking at you Greece.

[@welfrion7878]

I really like the concept of this podcast. I wasn't someone who thought about the "why" of things until I was 19. I felt like I was doing myself a huge disservice by not understanding why I did anything at all. One thing I've discovered is that big things in life start from nothing. I used to attach my ego with my art, but it took me months of reflection to get that out of my system. It was really difficult to do because my art made making friends and relationships much easier, and I am extremely introverted. I learned that I like drawing but hate showing my work to people for their praise. I learned that when I put pen to paper, everything in life makes sense. It seems silly to feel this way over something so insignificant and futile. I learned that even if bad things happen, I will probably still have a pen and some paper to play with. If I lose that, I'll still have my mind. If I lose that as well, I'm unlikely to be present to grief over it.

[@blagovestgeorgiev2606]

Havent watched the video but art is from the people for the people. so why not

[@Licherous]

i'll save you 70 minutes: yes, nsfw is real art

[@darkwhy3930]

Exactly.

[@pickledshoe]

Of course it is.

[@vantirobin9885]

Yes.

[@JoJoboiWav]

tldr : no it's not, gooning material isn't art as it doesn't tell anything and isn't meant to

[@Sammysapphira]

Yes?

[@minimalpoint935]

si vamos a la definicion de arte literal, es mas arte que mucho del arte que hay ahora, un platano y una cinta, inteligencia artificial o embuste y robo mas bien, que puedo decir, escritores que usan la IA pero se quejan cuando la IA escribe guiones; creeme cuando pienses que el mundo no te puede decepcionar mas siempre habra algo peor. huy y todas las IA tienen el arte de reiq. a mi me da gracia como programador y sabiendo como se hace la IA que le metan estas mentiras a la gente de que una IA se revelo e hizo esto o aquello y pues hay estan los dibulgadores de medio pelo diciendo que la tierra es plana, lo de la IA ya existia hace mucho tiempo, el problema no habia capacidad ni un tamaño de datos tan colosal, la IA conciente, ni sabemos que es la conciencia pero ya me creo lo de la IA conciente, piensen en esto la IA es la relacion de datos matematicamente no mas hasta hay, ahora desglosado, si tienes un dato por ejemplo alguien quiere un helado de maracuya y ron con pasas pero no te va decir lo que quiere tienes que crearlo, tu entre mas datos tengas mas cerca estaras de darle lo que quiere, pero sabes cuel es la magia tonta aqui que si relacionas los datos puedes llegar mas facil, por ejemplo , es helado, color naranja, tiene pasas, tiene una fruta, y ya vamos en lo que llamaron redes neuronales, para que se venda mejor, pero hay mejores formas de relacionarlo matematicamente digamos, si es helado y es de color naranja solo puede ser tal grupo, esto lo hacemos con ecuaciones y en sintexis esa es la base de todo. lo que no le dicen a la gente es que segun la funcionalidad de la IA lo hace de una forma u otra, en el caso de las imagenes, nesecitan las imagenes de los artistas a quienes no pagaran, lo mismo las de audio y diran en audio podria simplemente mediante los ruidos que no nesecitan si no de un oido afinado, pues hay no seria IA no trabajo de IA; la ambicion de un poconon de riquillos como estos monopolios de midjourny, stable difusion, el populacho y su cultura de comprar lo que este de moda, deshumanizando en este caso a los trabajadores púes ponen el oficio de la IA como algo valido, como arte mientras piden al dibujante hasta que se calle e insultos he visto y algunos pensando que con la IA hiban a ganar pasta, al principio si, ya a final de año patreon esta abarrotado de este trabajo y no hau cupo para uno mas como al inicio que se taparon en plata, quien gano el monopolo, quien perdio, el trabajador verdadero el artista a pero ese artista ahora devera buscarce otra chamba, posiblemente la que tenga el que apoyo la IA; no soy de izquierdas me parece retrofrado ese pensamiento, apoyo lo que es el libremercado, no soy conservador.

[@rdallas1614]

I had a friend that invested in NSFW art during the boom, his investment is now worthless.

[@adroitws1367]

investment? like collecting to sell later?

[@mf--]

​@@adroitws1367 I think they are confusing NSFW (not safe for work) with NFT (Non-fungible Tokens).

[@karatsukiawildfemboy2326]

Art is art no matter what its depicting

[@edvin97ful]

It is. You still need skill to do it. Of course, you can just attach two circles to a stickman and say it's NSFW, but this isn't that. You need to learn how to draw for real before trying to draw anything NSFW.

[@ILikeGuns1992]

Of course it is. ._.

[@livingsouloftimestudio2887]

clearly you dont realize the phycologicl impact it has on the brain and honestly the more its available the harder it is to live a life free of it, its this very so called "art" that got me exposed as a young kid to things tha twisted and alterred my perception of women. this is not art its deranged phychotic conditioning of the mind, ive seen art platforms begin to include this type of garbage. this is my own personal story we dont need it to be more available we need it to be stopped were its so easily accessable. some will laugh at this some will see it as fact from years of dealing with these things.i said my piece.

[@maverdanaless291]

Thanks for sharing such an opinion! Usually, this topic gets swept under the rug - I'm happy to find your comment under the title :)

[@JoJoboiWav]

Thank you. It ain't even a question of puratanism or sum, it's just factual : gooning content is straight up destructive and is only meant to be consumed to fullfill some sexual desire. That's the furthest thing possible from art as it doesn't tell anything

[@agrainofsalt7238]

NSFW is and isnt art. For the most part the NSFW art that most people associate from illustration is porn related/made and cratered towards men. Art that happens to be NSFW or contains NSFW elements is made for the purpose of being art. There is overlap between the two but the intent is very different wich leaves the former feeling less valuable or valid compared to the latter, even if the technical skill is very high

[@shaytriesdrawing]

This was a waste of my time. It doesn't talk about NSFW. Well, I guess it did for 2 minutes. 😑

[@Musashi246]

Any art that is “Safe-for-work/your employer” in our current society is nearly worthless, seeing how much moral censorship progressed. Push boundaries, be controversial, make art.

[@jaimeruiz7837]

NSFW or SFW or both art... what a dumbass question.

[@StruggaBugga]

YES! Yes it is.

[@unknown-uj9le]

Reiq? Idk i usually like your guests but reiq doesnt think shane glines is a real artist. Soo...

[@REIQ]

Whut? LOL

[@heroiam4067]

The “what is real art” debate, great! The most useless and uninteresting topic of the universe.

[@Oozaru85]

Thats a really dumb question, tbh.

[@everett_arce_brushwork9657]

Honestly dumb premise, asking that is a bad faith question. Sex and sexual depictions are a human thing. Hope no one see this video, no watching it. Damn how dumb.

[@Avernalism]

I dont think he'd interview Reiq if he had such a negative opinion of the medium and I feel like its a good thing to be asking this on a channel so associated with sfw, presentable art

[@Hardrockmusicfan]

You posted within minutes of the video going up. Clearly, didn't even watch and consider the content before hate posting this comment. That seems to be in bad faith and dumb.

[@danielcalencar]

Calm down bro. That's this the title. The video is supportive of the NSFW

[@everett_arce_brushwork9657]

@ thank you, that context is appreciated. The questions is still a bad faith, i think there are more useful questions in regards to design, illustration, or art in general as it relates to our lives. I appreciate your positivity and understanding.

[@D.KRyley-mq1do]

@@everett_arce_brushwork9657 It's a bad title, I agree.

[@SpieleSuchti894]

the title is stupid

[@V6HAVOC]

Nsfw art is art. But *personally* i think just because its art doesn't mean its well meaning. Example like graffiti, its art, but its not socially accepted by majority as one because it involves vandalism and etc. Personally(again) i view nsfw art the same as i view porn, they both can be very harmful if consumed too much. If you're constantly consuming nsfw artworks/drawing them dont think of yourself better than porn addicts just because they're drawings 🧏‍♀️

[@Aubreykun]

A lot of nsfw art is low meaning, regardless of skill level. There is a good amount that is rich with meaning, regardless of skill level as well. But your take swerves halfway through - such harms and addicts do not exist, it's not a real concept. There's numerous scientific articles that have studied this and concluded that it is not a real condition. There is nothing that sets overindulgence of it it as being uniquely damaging vs any other form of overindulgence, nor the cause being linked to the material itself.

[@V6HAVOC]

@Aubreykun dumb down those words a lil you dont gotta talk like you're writing an essay

[@Aubreykun]

@@V6HAVOC The appeal and impact of art isn't directly related to the skill level of the artist. A lot of artists who can render really nicely have boring work, and a lot of art that's got wonky bits can be really appealing. People overusing p*rn have other problems, it's not the content causing their issues. In a lot of cases it's like when people eat when stressed or shop for things they don't need when sad.

[@V6HAVOC]

@@Aubreykun 1. I never said anything about art skill 2. Thats why i *specifically* said "constantly consuming". If you're so dependent on it you cant go like a week, 3 days without it, thats an addiction. I never said consuming it in general makes you a porn addict.

[@Aubreykun]

@@V6HAVOC For 1, I was moreso saying a lot is chock full of meaning. But there's also a large amount of shallow stuff out there that is done with a lot of skill. For 2, it can be, and is, a hobby for a lot of people. The problem only occurs if it's "can't", meaning it interferes with other things. This is such a small percent of people that it's not even worth worrying about.

[@tkg353]

No

[@SandorThePuppy]

"A way to make a living"... What worth is the world to a man if he loses his soul? that is the most anti artistic motivation one can think of. If you had 6 months to live, what legacy would you like to leave in the world, what do you want your eulogy to say? "I corrupt other people's symbols of hope and aspiration for money?" There is plently ways to make a living without corrupting the work of other people whose intention is to entertain, inspire and in essence make this theater of pain a little more bearable for everyone. I know I'm probably outnumbered and in the losing side, not sure is the wrong one though.

[@bighead8217]

why do you think that making nsfw fanart of characters is 'corrupting' them & soulless. Some random Overwatch D.va fanart doesn't change the original/official art.

[@SandorThePuppy]

@@bighead8217 Wel, because it is. Why you mentioned Overwatch? because it is famously one of the most attacked by nsfw artists, therefore you yourself linked nsfw to that franchise, hence my point. It is a detriment to the image of the franchise. If a kid looks for Overwatch content online there is a high chance that he finds unsuitable material, we know it is not well hidden enough, so the artists are responsible of exposing minors to their content. If they did original content, there will be no problem.

[@mf--]

​@@SandorThePuppy It is ok to just say you are a prude and move on. No need to explain or give examples of completely unsupervised minors accessing things they should not be accessing.

[@Sunxxxxxx]

@@SandorThePuppy When I was young I would purposely search for and sometimes pay to get porn. At the time there wasn't so much nsfw art around and if it had been around I would have been happy because I would have enjoyed it with pleasure. The problem with porn, nsfw and young people I think is more than anything the message that nsfw art instills in their imagination, that is if nsfw art makes young people think and normalize that a woman must be violently fukked against her pleasure then that would be a problem but that a young person comes into contact with genuine sex scenes I don't think is an alarming problem.

[@SandorThePuppy]

Erotic art is art even in its most extreme forms, but taking someone elses IP and corrupt it is not, original erotic artist have all my respect but those who latch themselves to popular IPs to gain notoriety are nothing but leeches that disrespect the franchises and their true fans. And what's worse, it is impossible to control all access to the internet of children, most of the NSFW art are parodies of popular franchises that are for all ages, so when they look online for stuff about the games/series they like, they find this kind of "art". Erotic artists that create parodies of franchises not exclusive for adults are responsible of this problem, of course they will do all kinds of mental gymnastics to avoid responsibility but as the creators of that content, they are to blame. My advise is for them to create original characters and stories, you know, like real artists do.

[@PutineluAlin]

The Haunted World of El Superbeasto created by Rob Zombie.

[@SandorThePuppy]

@@PutineluAlin I don't know why tf you felt the need to make me aware of the existence of this movie, but by watching the trailer, all I can say is: Why wasn't I informed of this earlier? Looks like a must watch.

[@Cadenza-t6d]

Lmao . Commented 2 long paragraphs about the subject matter of NSFW being all that is corrupting or whatever. Regardless what you view it as it’s subjectively is still art weather you like it or not and plus it’s anybody’s freedom to create what we want regardless of what IP is parodied and for people underage discovering underage content first of all I’d argue no it’s not the creators responsibility to make sure no minors see it that’s on the parent for letting their kid unsupervised on the internet in the first place . Plus it’s unspoken rule and reason why we always put “18+ minors not allowed and will be blocked “ in alot of our bios. Also calling nsfw artist leeches for drawing the most popular IPs and characters at a time are leeches and aren’t real artists ?? Does this “rule” of yours apply to SFW artist that parody IPs or is this one of those “rules for thee not for me “ type things lol. Closing this by saying as nsfw artist myself I understand the point of view but objectively I think your takes are inconsideratly just disproportionate

[@SandorThePuppy]

@@Cadenza-t6d Sure, look me in the eye and tell me the +18 sign is an effective measure, and no SFW is not a problem bc a kid can find it no problem and SFW fanart is done out of love, not greed. If you have kids you'll realise how difficult it is to shield them from anything on the internet, you can have the best practices at home, but they have friends and their parents may not be tech savy. Since you mention freedom and "rules for thee not for me", well, freedom is for me too to express my concerns, which are not all that subjective if you look at the world around you and in social media. We can try to shed responsibility, but it's right there for all of us.

[@Cadenza-t6d]

And honestly that’s completely valid like that’s not a bad thing at all for it to be your concerns however if we’re talking social media as we know than that “responsibility “ should be for well over half the global population. Twotfh doing nothing about their E thots where minors can see them easily , same thing with so much of the media being a lot more sexualized than it used to be all around so I’m hoping the same energy is being kept for these spaces as well. As far as artist just doing nsfw of IPs being seen as negative or greedy just doesn’t really make any sense to me like some just like to do it just simply because that’s what they enjoy or they just do it because they can. As for the 18+ labels on NSFW art accounts like yea I agree it doesn’t stop them from seeing the stuff in the first place but in this day and age what can anyone really do about ? And again will always stand on this but it’s not really our responsibility when it comes to that especially when we put our labels as warnings. But it is the parents responsibility to moderate what their kids have access to and I mean yes they’re friends can show them this kind of stuff and negate that but than again you can’t really stop everything on the internet so really what can anyone do about it? All n all I don’t think it’s ridiculous to have the concerns you do since it’s a common standpoint a view that I understand well and all but I just think it’s impractical to be so much up in arms over something that can’t really be controlled like at all. just because someone draws NSFW art if zips for living doesn’t discredit these people any less than artist than their SFW counterparts but at the end of the day your entitled to your opinions and I respect that

[@popkb]

Ain't gonna watch the video but gonna say this: If AI art is not real art then NSFW art is also not real art. As simple as that.

[@megamillion5852]

We're very lucky to have been born at just the right time to see your undoubtedly well reasoned take settle the debate for good! But seriously, image generation is not art. It's plenty reasonable within a language sense to call it "AI art," as that communicates its intent as something modeled around human expression. But authentic art must be that human expression, created through a series of choices and study that are deeply personal. Image generation simply follows a series of algorithms that produce results. That is not the process of art, hence it cannot be authentic. NSFW art, however, still follows this process, making the two incomparable. If this attitude comes from feeling bad about your own image generation, then don't! I encourage you to instead study the process of drawing, learn, and grow to create the kind of art you imagine generating.

[@JoJoboiWav]

@@megamillion5852 Art is supposed to tell something. If the only purpose of the "art" piece is being a gooning material, then it ain't art. It doesn't tell anything it's just meant to be consumed like some kind of "product". Calling this art would be an insult honestly

[@DreamMistM]

What a pleasant suprise this is !! My hero and biggest art inspiration!! Reiq!!!