Summary for my future self: At safe doses, Anavar (at 20mg/day) gives more lean mass than Ostarine (at 3mg/day): +3kg vs 1.3kg. So it seems like the only benefit of Ostarine is lower suppression, but it loses in everything else. -Pavel
@Staphylin Жыл бұрын
Your content is gold, thank you so much I am in love of your channel and I am watching all your videos. I did a cycle with the two compounds (by the way they are one of the few compounds totally safe for hairloss concerns) I did 8 week cycles for both. 25 mg ED for ostarine and 50 mg ED for anavar. My training and food intake was similar. I am on TRT so testosterone shut down is not a concern. I've chosen 25 and 50 because it was known as the maximal safe dosage and "positive versus negative effects ratio" for a "bodybuilding" usage. I have experienced significantly greater gains with anavar. In my bloodworks, ostarine rised higher my ALAT/ASAT, but anavar did more harm on my cholesterols. LDL actually decreased with Ostarine, that is really interesting.
@NicholasDowney Жыл бұрын
Wow thank you so much for your support. Very interesting experience with the two drugs and I think this is what most people would report when using these two compounds. Interesting about the LDL!
@Pavel-q1r8s Жыл бұрын
Wow, very interesting, thank you!
@captivesojourner Жыл бұрын
Currently on 25 mg a day Ostarine cycle. Using 4 andro as a "Test Base" and watching a video about sides while experiencing no sides
@5wisher5weet2 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming Ostarine is cheaper and less likely to be fake also? If Anavar is twice as good at the same safety level (great metric) then cost does anyone know ballpark cost differences? If Ostarine is less than half the price then it could still be an option, especially for women.
@NicholasDowney2 жыл бұрын
That is definitely another important factor to take into account! Personally I think women should use ostarine instead of anavar. The price difference where I stay is not much mg per mg, but obviously anavar is used at higher doses.
@brandonr15908 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on ostarine +anavar?
@LukeSly913 ай бұрын
Is ostarine not as suppressive as anavar on a milligram to milligram basis, or is it only less suppressive if you compare the maximum tolerated dosages of 3mg osta to 20 mg anavar?
@briannighormain71322 жыл бұрын
What’s a good guide to using anavar I’ve never done a cycle of anything before but heard anavar would be a good one to try. Any info would be very helpful thanks in advance
@NicholasDowney2 жыл бұрын
You can email me or DM me and we can set up a consultation if you’d like?
@Supermoi123410 ай бұрын
Would using ostarine at 17 close my growth plates or stunt my growth ?
@rootsoflife979310 ай бұрын
Waste at that age I had 19 inch arms at that age 350 bench eat Hella protein teain harrdddd
@drewgrows77659 күн бұрын
If you are the typical healthy 17 yr old, your natural Testosterone level is more than enough. My advice is as long as you are making continual strength gains, take nothing. In a couple of years if you hit a wall, then I would look at it. I am middleaged and now dependenton Testosteroneinjectionfor life. Its not always easy to get of the ride.
@JohnSmith-sj2dk Жыл бұрын
Trying 10 mg Ostarine, the lower suppression and less hair loss is a big advantage imho.
@NicholasDowney Жыл бұрын
Let me know how it goes and if the suppression is significant or not
@poetarchives Жыл бұрын
Hi, how did this go ?
@poetarchives Жыл бұрын
@@NicholasDowney personally I'm on week 7 on osterine. Started at 10mg and worked my way up to 30mg very slowly. Ending the cycle in a few days. Will report any side effects
@Zzeus296 Жыл бұрын
@@poetarchives how did you go mate any sides?
@HFG98 Жыл бұрын
@@poetarchives how’d it go?
@craigauty6756 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the 20mg anavar in this study is pharma grade. Try get that in UGL, prob underdosed
@macanudo9304 Жыл бұрын
Which is more suppressive? Ostarine at 20mg or Anavar at 20mg both during 8 weeks?
@NicholasDowney Жыл бұрын
There is not too much research on this but from what I have seen, I would argue ostarine is more supressive at 20mg
@macanudo8537 Жыл бұрын
Really is Ostarine more suppresive at 20mg than 20mg of Anavar for say 6weeks both?
@ktna19912 жыл бұрын
Hi doc. Would an unopened bottle of ostarine capsules, from 2016, be safe to use today?
@NicholasDowney2 жыл бұрын
So usually when expired medication just tends to become less efficacious (only few degrease into harmful chemicals). Also, the expiry date tends to indicate when the medication will expire when kept in harsh conditions. But the decision is yours
@ktna19912 жыл бұрын
@@NicholasDowney Thanks a lot for the quick response. If its not going to be harmful (it was and is in good environment, dark cool place) I think its worth a try, even if its less efficacious. Thanks again ;_)
@NicholasDowney2 жыл бұрын
No worries!
@Dollabill568 Жыл бұрын
Is 10mg of Anavar alone for 6 weeks safe enough to rebound from without a pct?
@nickps22518 ай бұрын
Yes but gains wouldn’t be hood
@Jamesrwatsonx2 жыл бұрын
I need to know asap I'm kind of about to order some. Great video btw
@joemarshalljminkllc7502 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Dr. Downey!
@NicholasDowney2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Joe!
@mikaylawaller63712 жыл бұрын
Hi Doc. What’s your birds name? Thanks in advance.
@NicholasDowney2 жыл бұрын
His name is Iroh. Thanks in Advance
@darrensmith53862 жыл бұрын
Hi mate.....can a anavar only cycle be run and what would you recommend the length of cycle and pct?? Thanks hope for a reply
@andrewecom8882 жыл бұрын
Its not optimal as you dont have estrogen from suppression from T. I would try 6-8 weeks
@zammonster64132 жыл бұрын
Anavar > All SARMS
@NicholasDowney2 жыл бұрын
Seems that this is the way this are going 😂
@8geckolava86 ай бұрын
any acne with anavar? because acne with primo
@derrickmccorkle4360 Жыл бұрын
Is a test base necessary with an Ostarine cycle?
@ForLegalReasonsThisIsAJoke1 Жыл бұрын
no it doesn't shut me down only slightly lower t which rebounded in 30 days with otc pct. Also test base are never "necessary" either per se, however it makes the experience much more enjoyable since you wont want to kill yourself from low estrogen lol, also you are waaaay more prone to injuries if you have no estrogen. finding motivation to do anything is practically zero with no e2.
@derrickmccorkle4360 Жыл бұрын
@@ForLegalReasonsThisIsAJoke1 I’m not an expert but I thought that if something suppresses your testosterone then that means your estrogen levels get higher? Did your estrogen get out of whack with Ostarine or are you referring to a different steroid cycle?
@ForLegalReasonsThisIsAJoke1 Жыл бұрын
@derrickmccorkle4360 testosterone aromatizes into dht and estrogen without testosterone production there is nothing to convert. The E sides from ostarine are from your natural testosterone aromatizing due to ostarine binding onto androgen receptors which in turn tells your body it has an imbalance if sex hormones. And in an attempt to reach homeostasis it aromatizes into estrogen which signals to downregulate testosterone production. Hope that clears it up. An interesting side note Ostarine may bind to androgen receptors in muscle and skeleton however it isnt recognized as testoreone in your body which will lower your sex hormone binding globuline which frees up more testosterone. If its used complementary to natty training its actually a great compound imo *Im not an endocrinologist. Im sure Nicholas can correct me on the small details, but the basic gist is correct. Also, English is not my first language so there might be some grammatical errors.
@samspangenberg35952 жыл бұрын
Is there any way I can send you a question in pm? Need your help..
@NicholasDowney2 жыл бұрын
Email me: drnjdowney@gmail.com
@Jamesrwatsonx2 жыл бұрын
Can you stack both anavar and osterine?
@NicholasDowney2 жыл бұрын
You can but why would you?
@Jamesrwatsonx2 жыл бұрын
@@NicholasDowney yeah makes sense. I have 180 20mg anavar, quite strong actually. Anavar alone works at how many mgs per day you say?
@Jamesrwatsonx2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking take 60 mgs per day.
@NicholasDowney2 жыл бұрын
@@Jamesrwatsonx 60mg a day is a common bodybuilder dose. If used by itself without a testosterone base just be wary of the symptoms of suppression.
@garrettjohnson75723 ай бұрын
Is 44 mg of ostarine is bad
@nickg89153 ай бұрын
Anything over 30 is a no go the benefits drop off quick
@gabriellescarlata7662 Жыл бұрын
I love your conure
@NicholasDowney Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@oinkoink6442 жыл бұрын
Nice Video. Would be interesting to make a video regarding that you can increase efficiency of Anavar in combination with a high dose of coffeine. Gonna try it anyway...
@oinkoink6442 жыл бұрын
Not sure if Ostarine is really less supressive, since it slightly raises östrogen. While Anavar alone, doesnt aromatises, which leves you with depleted levels of östrogen, which should signal a quick restart of test production. Even was reading, that you have a kind of rebounding effect with testosteron in anavar after use.
@NicholasDowney2 жыл бұрын
Whats the theory behind combining the two? Sounds interesting
@NicholasDowney2 жыл бұрын
@@oinkoink644 The literature suggests it is not as suppressive, I would argue that it does not raise oestrogen but decrease testosterone in relation to the oestrogen. Then again, these studies were done on much lower doses.
@oinkoink6442 жыл бұрын
@@NicholasDowney no Theorie itself. Only previously the observation that caffeine helps to potentat the effects of for example paracetamol. Another example from doping would be a) the eca stack or b) Salbutamol. Based on this observation Portugese Bodybuilder started to combine it and anekdotaly reported that it was much more effective. Following this there was a test with one person by a doping lap in Portugal.
@NicholasDowney2 жыл бұрын
@@oinkoink644 Interesting, the only drug I am certain that potentiates the effects of androgens is DNP, and it does it very well. DNP is quite a dangerous drug, however. Caffeine does potentiate the effects of paracetamol but this is via a different pathway in the brain. I am not sure how this will be applicable to Anavar but I am definitely going to do more research.
@snooutdoors30282 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’m going with anavar all the way!
@NicholasDowney2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, rather be safe than sorry
@derrickmccorkle4360 Жыл бұрын
Did you end up trying anavar?
@Leroy1 Жыл бұрын
This is misinformation. S22 and Ostarine are NOT the same thing!
@moremusclemorework11 ай бұрын
well every content of which we can search on the research or wiki something, s-22 and ostarine is alternative name of both. Could you tell me your basis of your argue?