Is Pantera's guitar tone actually BAD?? (Remixing Walk)

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Become The Knight

Become The Knight

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@zach_k_md6520
@zach_k_md6520 Жыл бұрын
Mike woke up this morning with the audacity
@keatonsparksvideoproductions
@keatonsparksvideoproductions Жыл бұрын
Pretty much
@davidgray4995
@davidgray4995 Жыл бұрын
I’m shook, that’s for sure. Dude seems nice but there’s something seriously amiss here haha
@moffa1644
@moffa1644 Жыл бұрын
Fuckkng audacity alright
@craigusselman546
@craigusselman546 Жыл бұрын
That tone has 1990s all over it sludgy buzzing it was good but why not spice it up a bit.
@sam8404
@sam8404 Жыл бұрын
@@craigusselman546 it doesn't need any spicing up. At most this is a lateral move.
@4seiken-594
@4seiken-594 Жыл бұрын
Your mix sounds like I'm listening to Walk from the other side of a concrete wall. Like it's my nextdoor neighbour listening to it and not me 😂
@RafaelSequera
@RafaelSequera Жыл бұрын
yep, like putting a bed sheet on the speakers LOL
@ben14326
@ben14326 Жыл бұрын
You are dead on 😂
@tomasjonsson7141
@tomasjonsson7141 Жыл бұрын
100% Fr
@linda-brookethompson5345
@linda-brookethompson5345 Жыл бұрын
Fr! The original is def better
@FilipeG96
@FilipeG96 Жыл бұрын
Its called low end (something lacling in the original), which would actually be amplified under those circumstances so you're right
@K707OR30
@K707OR30 Жыл бұрын
No, Dime’s tone isn’t bad. It just highlights how stupid tone chasing is and how homogenized everyone wants to be with their sound. I’ll be the first to say i fully have been down the tone chasing rabbit hole just like everyone else. But the point is: Dime’s tone, while maybe not conventional especially juxtaposed against the current metal tone landscape; is still killer and it is instantly recognizable. Yes it’s shrill and piercing and aggressive as hell. I don’t think anyone would really say it’s smooth. But that doesn’t make it “bad.” If anything, metal these days has way too much polish in general. It makes me appreciate Dime even more now and I welcome more bands to mix in an HM-2 or just generally throw a middle finger up at overproduction.
@BecomeTheKnight
@BecomeTheKnight Жыл бұрын
I'll grant you a lot of guitar today sounds homogeneous. And Dime definitely stands out. But there are ways of getting a unique metal tone without killing the guitar's fundamentals.
@somethingbl
@somethingbl Жыл бұрын
This mix just makes it sound like everything else. I love "improving" old mixes with modern technology (like the Beatles remixes or any of Steven Wilson's prog remixes), but this one just completely changes the sound a kills the in-your-face aspect of Pantera's sound. It sounds like Godsmack lol.
@maximepignon9537
@maximepignon9537 Жыл бұрын
@@BecomeTheKnight Yes, but metal, especially at that time, was about fun and agression (You know what I mine, fun like Anthrax or a shredders can be fun). Dime's tone is not heavy, but agressive as f.. his guitar scream when he put his hands off.. allowing him to very easely make weird noise. Just a very expressive tone build for his own personal playing.
@K707OR30
@K707OR30 Жыл бұрын
@@BecomeTheKnighthow are you defining “guitar fundamentals” exactly? To me that’s technique. As far as sound, why should there really be any rules? I’m not saying you have to like a particular sound but if someone digs a guitar tone that sound like beer shits splattering into a deep fryer then fuck it. Can’t say I would necessarily like it but I’m willing to give it a listen versus telling people “you can’t do that, it’s against the modern metal guitar tone and production quality bylaws”. I guess I think of something like Killing on Adrenaline by Dying Fetus. The bass frequencies are clipped to absolute hell and it’s kind of a mess but it defines the sound of that album and I wouldn’t really want to hear it any other way. It suits the brutality of their style perfectly. Same with the bass drum on Vader’s “Litany”. It’s jarring and ridiculous and offensive but in a way I love it.
@LysergiaBandOfficial
@LysergiaBandOfficial Жыл бұрын
​​​@@K707OR30 he means the fundamental frequency. when you pluck a string it doesn't just make one tone, that'd sound boring, it makes a bunch of smaller tones called overtones. the main frequency, the one that you actually hear, is called the fundamental frequency. and i like dime's tone but it just shows that you don't know what you're talking about. dime scooped his mids, the fundamental frequencies of a guitar are in the mids. 🤯🤯🤯🤯
@8bitventure
@8bitventure Жыл бұрын
Imagine this kid that vapes in his mom’s basement telling Dime his guitar tone sucks.
@Downhuman74
@Downhuman74 Жыл бұрын
Dime's tone was distinctive and instantly identifiable. WAY more important that any concept of "good" tone. Alternately, Queens of the Stone Age revealed after years of speculation that their sought-after unique tone was nothing more than a $100 Peavey Decade practice amp (for both bass and guitar).
@audiowrench
@audiowrench Жыл бұрын
It has also been confirmed that Josh was more or less trolling in regards of using that amp - yes, they did use it. But using a Peavey Decade won't automatically make you sound like the Queens. They use a ton of other amps as well
@Downhuman74
@Downhuman74 Жыл бұрын
@@audiowrench Oh, I never thought that it was the ONLY thing they used. But the revelation totally made sense considering their sound at the time that it was something in their arsenal.
@audiowrench
@audiowrench Жыл бұрын
@Downhuman74 oh no I know, your initial comment just made it seem like the Peavey Decade is *the* definitive way to sound like the Queens Of The Stone Age.
@jeffc1753
@jeffc1753 Жыл бұрын
Josh Homme is notorious for throwing people for a loop and being secretive about his guitar tone. I don’t doubt he’s used that amp and other cheap sh!t on records though.
@in.der.welt.sein.
@in.der.welt.sein. Жыл бұрын
@@jeffc1753 No he's not. He literally puts out videos where he goes into excruciating 2 hour detail about how his recording process and how he gets various tones.
@alexanderkleist1127
@alexanderkleist1127 Жыл бұрын
while i disagree that the song needs any rework production wise, i always enjoy watching you remix/remaster these songs to your liking, its also kind of a learning experience. Cheers!
@23ograin53
@23ograin53 Жыл бұрын
I like the subtle boost of the mids, and I liked the way the new mix sounded bit by bit, as you progressed, but in the end the original mix 24:58 sounds much more clear and crisp than the final product of the new mix. New mix ended up sounding muddy.
@alejandroaaa
@alejandroaaa 5 ай бұрын
right? like they just added reverb and reduced the definition on the high end
@nathan-cy9ob
@nathan-cy9ob Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love these, wish you’d upload the entire songs haha.
@Isabella_31
@Isabella_31 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been really liking these remixing videos!
@miracleofsound
@miracleofsound Жыл бұрын
The lack of proper heavy low end on 90s metal albums has always bothered me. Demanufacture and Burn My Eyes, two of my fave albums, both have the same issue. I like what you did overall here, especially with the guitar mids & kick - although I felt the bass & guitar lows got a tad too intense & headachey on the chugs for my tastes from about 100-250hz.
@BecomeTheKnight
@BecomeTheKnight Жыл бұрын
Dude! Appreciate the feedback 🤘 like I was saying in some other comments I'm not sure if this translated well from my DAW to the upload (may be my screen cap). I'm hearing what some of y'all have been commenting on, but didn't catch it when A/B to Spotify. Seriously awesome seeing you here in the comments 🤘🔥 And the feedback is greatly appreciated.
@miracleofsound
@miracleofsound Жыл бұрын
@@BecomeTheKnight Long time watcher 🤘
@Midna__
@Midna__ Жыл бұрын
I never been a huge fan of dimebags tone, but honestly I could never imagine panteras songs with a different guitar tone for some reason. It’s not my cup of tea when it comes to guitar tones, but it’s definitely iconic. Nice remix!
@obiwanjustpeekinginonya
@obiwanjustpeekinginonya Жыл бұрын
Mike, these mixing videos might be some of my favorites you’ve ever done
@anthonysoley7121
@anthonysoley7121 Жыл бұрын
Hello. Pantera is still one my my favorite metal band today and a big congratulations on your band and your show in Nashville, Tennessee on July 6 and have fun rocking on stage.
@hakkin_d
@hakkin_d Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these remixing vids! Keep ‘em coming!
@adamsteinbacher2629
@adamsteinbacher2629 Жыл бұрын
Man I loved your Dyer's Eve remix because it still captures the sound of AJFA while bringing back that bass, but this one is way too muddy. I dig the extra low-end boost, but I think the mids just drown out all of the cut the original record has. I think even if you're not a fan of Dime's tone, VDOP is already basically mixed to perfection. The bite may be obnoxious to you subjectively but it's just the sound of this record. Doesn't sound awful to me at all.
@awesometownmatt9349
@awesometownmatt9349 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t have said it better!
@ayewhaddupdoe
@ayewhaddupdoe Жыл бұрын
Yep. Like putting a blanket over my monitors lol
@mrrocknroll84
@mrrocknroll84 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I think the author of the video needs some new monitors. I work in hifi, and have listened to this album on many setups and the album translates very well on every setup. The original album was actually perfectly balanced and never gets shrilly unless your setup is pretty poor. You screwed this one up. What you don't understand is, you cannot use the same formula for everything. Also, back then recordings had dynamics where modern recordings are very compressed and squashed and sound like crap on big speakers. Cowboys from hell works on all speakers from small to big. BTW, the new guitar tone sounds like a cheap pedal. You also killed the guitar tone that is very unique
@Helena-gk4ui
@Helena-gk4ui 11 ай бұрын
​@@mrrocknroll84he didn't killed the guitar tone xd
@wiggy009
@wiggy009 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy this series. It’s educational and makes me think about musical details in ways you often don’t
@boxonothing4087
@boxonothing4087 Жыл бұрын
It's often a matter of perspective. Some productions supposedly "'big and full" may come over as mechanical and lifeless. You gotta find the sweet spot, some measure of imperfection is fine as long as it's not distracting. Keeps your music human
@kuhboom22
@kuhboom22 Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Love it man!
@tknzero8027
@tknzero8027 Жыл бұрын
its crazy how you were able to drain out every single bit of life out of the song. its just impressive at this point. it went from a perfect metal song that you could identify in less than a second to just another metal song. props to you 👏👏👏
@yakeeb3742
@yakeeb3742 Жыл бұрын
While I do prefer the original mix for its uniqueness, I think you’re exaggerating a tad😂 He did this based on preference; no need to take it personally lol
@WillyWylde1919
@WillyWylde1919 Жыл бұрын
​​​@@yakeeb3742 He's talking out of his ass even if I too like the original better. 😂
@FilipeG96
@FilipeG96 Жыл бұрын
If you genuinely think that then you're simply stating that the writing is totally subpar in your opinion (so much so that you can only enjoy it because of the mixing)
@tknzero8027
@tknzero8027 Жыл бұрын
@@FilipeG96 it's almost as if mixing and mastering is very important to how good a song sounds 😲😲
@FilipeG96
@FilipeG96 Жыл бұрын
@@tknzero8027 Of course it is, almost as if you necessarily then have to admit it is entirely subjective and thus so is your comment. In this case Pantera's particular kind of mixing is and has almost never been used for metal music because it deliberately cuts off a huge chunk of what metal goes for (low to low-mid frequencies) and unnaturally accentuates the high end. That said, someone mixing this as actual metal is usually mixed might ruin the song for you, and that's where your point ends (not much of a point)
@GabiBrooks
@GabiBrooks Жыл бұрын
Really enjoying this type of content from you, Mike! ❤️
@Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me
@Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me Жыл бұрын
I like your mix, not bc something's wrong with the original. It just sounds good, imo.
@lukewoodworth2101
@lukewoodworth2101 Жыл бұрын
Dimebags tone was fine just could have been better
@terriblecertainity
@terriblecertainity Жыл бұрын
everyone claiming Dime's tone is bad is either deaf or into sterile, soft modern metal tones. It has bite and aggression, and isn't too pretty to be metal.
@terriblecertainity
@terriblecertainity Жыл бұрын
@@napo7866 it's dated, to me, because modern tones are much tamer. They lack those aggressive high frequencies. To me, only Decapitated and Soreption have good modern tones, the rest sounds way too soft to me. Too pleasant
@Vivi_9
@Vivi_9 Жыл бұрын
It's trendy to hate on Pantera these days even though they're obviously the greatest metal band with the greatest metal guitar player of all time
@dickmaster666
@dickmaster666 Жыл бұрын
@@Vivi_9 your smoking crack
@tonyperez8066
@tonyperez8066 Жыл бұрын
@@user-se1wb4qp7v”The Trend is DEAD”
@davidgray4995
@davidgray4995 Жыл бұрын
@@tonyperez8066I see what ya did there!
@Moss_and_Such
@Moss_and_Such Жыл бұрын
A lot of guitar players hate the standard line 6 insane setting as their skill grows but let’s not forget where we came from gents.
@Curdledmayonnaise
@Curdledmayonnaise Жыл бұрын
i still think line 6 spiders have a BADASS tone, its heavy as shit
@brutesaint
@brutesaint Жыл бұрын
Freaking love Pantera! Excited to see this!
@k1ng_NL
@k1ng_NL Жыл бұрын
He definitely doesn’t have the best tone, but I love it so much. It’s the pantera sound and they just wouldn’t be the same without it.
@graymatters_
@graymatters_ Жыл бұрын
i'm extremely impressed by your sense of music production like i can literally not even process the difference between their and your mix correctly
@ddduv
@ddduv Жыл бұрын
Man i need the actual finished thing uploaded separately. That's a fucking brutal mix! This really sounds a lot better, even tho i do love Dime's tone, this is kind of just objectively better
@kalebpost20
@kalebpost20 Жыл бұрын
Vulgar is a special album for me considering there’s not a song that I’d skip. No Good and Rise are some absolute face-melters, underrated majorly.
@guitar_jero
@guitar_jero Жыл бұрын
I really like what you did with the drums. You’re right about the excessive snare reverb on 90s mixes. It’s very noticeable in Grunge, Prog Rock and Metal.
@guitar_jero
@guitar_jero Жыл бұрын
HOLY SHIT guitar and vocals are reborn 🔥
@frayedsanity
@frayedsanity Жыл бұрын
Do the whole album! I love the new mix!
@manimaman
@manimaman Жыл бұрын
The key to a good metal tone is a unique tone. The reason nobody sounds like dimebag is because he had this pure strength to bend his strings. Some metal isnt meant to be pleasant.
@mc12358
@mc12358 Жыл бұрын
That and the solid state Randalls.
@unleashthebloodthirstpoopcrap
@unleashthebloodthirstpoopcrap Жыл бұрын
Because of how well your last video did, me and my brother did another bet. It was “what type of video will he do next?” I dearly choose mixing and he chose writing related. All I have to say is thanks for the 20$
@nezunskyfire292
@nezunskyfire292 Жыл бұрын
This sounds meaty, nice.
@BFG-hv2ml
@BFG-hv2ml Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you making video on Pantera, was waiting for it for a long time. I am no musician or producer, but i still like original mix more sry. I cannot really express why, but I know that I just do.
@gabrielpacheco132
@gabrielpacheco132 Жыл бұрын
I think this way of mixing Pantera's songs is precisely what makes them unique. If not, they would just be another metal band.
@VampireA1056
@VampireA1056 Жыл бұрын
I can already feel the ground shaking by Pantera fans when he said" It's obnoxious"
@shaneb203
@shaneb203 5 ай бұрын
I'd be interested if you compared the mixing between reinventing the steel Vinny vs the Terry Date reissue
@diegomazzaron9191
@diegomazzaron9191 Жыл бұрын
Great work man, I love Dimebag so much because he was like the perfect fusion between Van Halen and Iommi as a guitarist.
@attetanskanen7001
@attetanskanen7001 Жыл бұрын
Dimebag scooped the amp and used 6 band eq for boosting the mids. Later on he used Zakk Wylde bls overdrive pedal. Great mix man 😎🤘
@benhockey3288
@benhockey3288 Жыл бұрын
Zakks MXR overdrive is an awesome, versatile pedal I love mine.
@DruMarshallDrums
@DruMarshallDrums 9 күн бұрын
Somehow I stumbled on this on July 7th, a year later and my band is playing The East Room tonight hahaha. What are the chances?!
@Andrlz_
@Andrlz_ 4 ай бұрын
I never really liked the mixing on vdop, so I might be a bit biased to say but I believe that you hit the nail on the head on this one, good job.
@matiETN
@matiETN Жыл бұрын
great work! Could you upload your mix and share the link to download? thank you!
@ToonamiAftermath
@ToonamiAftermath Жыл бұрын
I liked some stuff you did with the mix especially adding some lower end back into the drums, bass and bringing the vocals more forward. But the guitar tone is very intentional and it changes the feel of the song by messing with it so much, the original guitar tone makes it sound raw, live, like it would sound if you were really there in front of his amplifier.
@smithfan22
@smithfan22 Жыл бұрын
Mike might be poking the bear with this video title 😬 What a brave and beautiful man
@victorthemusicman7243
@victorthemusicman7243 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand everything that goes on in these videos but I love trying to learn from them and pick up what I can!
@ButBigger42
@ButBigger42 Жыл бұрын
You don't mess with perfection and Pantera is perfection.
@sole__doubt
@sole__doubt Жыл бұрын
Especially the Vulgar album.
@Helena-gk4ui
@Helena-gk4ui 11 ай бұрын
no. it's not perfect.
@ButBigger42
@ButBigger42 11 ай бұрын
@@Helena-gk4ui wrong.
@Helena-gk4ui
@Helena-gk4ui 11 ай бұрын
@@ButBigger42 no
@ButBigger42
@ButBigger42 11 ай бұрын
@@Helena-gk4ui You like anime and think you're a cat. I don't care about your wrong opinions.
@mtlmltnt
@mtlmltnt Жыл бұрын
Discovered your channel recently and I really like hearing about what makes a metal track sound metal. The dissection process, basically. Do you think that Reinventing the Steel has a better overall sound than Vulgar Display of Power?
@simsrecording
@simsrecording Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid! Keep in mind that for Guitar Hero 1 and 2, all songs, except "Jordan" and a few others, were covers. Not that they were worried about licensing, but instead, they wanted covers because you were playing with a "cover band". All of those were done by a session-musician company called "Wavegroup". When GH was acquired by Activision, Neversoft took over and used their Tony Hawk engine for the games. Starting with GH3, they started to get licensing for actual songs, with maybe one or two being done by Wavegroup moving forward. So, if you compare the original "Cowboys From Hell" to the GH1 cover, you'll notice that while the tone is close, there is quite a difference.
@CornSw
@CornSw Жыл бұрын
Love these remixes you do! As much as I love Dimebag, I've got to agree with you on the tone of the older records. I'm a bigger fan of the later albums production, like Reinventing the Steele, for sure. Bigger sound, heavier sound, more low end, etc.
@matias871HF
@matias871HF Жыл бұрын
hello! I really like your videos, but I would like to make some constructive criticism (no offense intended) 1) when using the Pro Q3, I recommend using a shelving EQ to cut both lows and highs (this completely removes those frequencies, not just a few dBs, which is useful when some frequencies are annoying) 2) at the same time, when boosting certain frequencies, it is better to use a wide Q, to make it sound more natural (I recommend trying channel strip plugins to achieve a similar result) 3) when working with these types of stems, the tracks are often already heavily compressed and overdriven, so I don't recommend applying a lot of these processes (maybe a small amount just to achieve certain compressor colors) for example, when you use the compressor on drums, it doesn't really sound bigger, just flatter also with vocals, they're already heavy compressed, be careful with limiting 4) when you boost lows or sublows, try using a pultec type plugin, they are especially good at this and the boost feels very natural 5) be careful with the lows in the voice, many times they do not add anything to the mix, they only fight with the kick and the bass also do not cut too much treble, it's important because it provides clarity I hope it works for you, greetings!
@goldenarch3239
@goldenarch3239 Жыл бұрын
i do like what you did with the bass and the drums i will say. but as a huge fan of this band who has listened to every thing published from this band probably thousands of time at this point, it just dont hit the same. but im very acustome to their actual sound. so I will say you did a great job mixing it as a whole, it just changes the entire feel of the band
@ayewhaddupdoe
@ayewhaddupdoe Жыл бұрын
I love this channel because no, I don't learn any new techniques or anything, but helps me realize mistakes I tend to make in my own mixes that I would have overlooked. Then I A/B and the light bulb moment happens.
@MusicManMythologuy
@MusicManMythologuy Жыл бұрын
I am very impressed by the improved guitar tone but I am very very very impressed with the new vocal mix. It overall feels more kick ass. Great job
@DJV1
@DJV1 Жыл бұрын
You made one of the best guitar tones even better
@olegfoight7895
@olegfoight7895 Жыл бұрын
Would be nice to have the option to get a recording / stream of your band's live show for a small fee - for those of us who are way too far from Nashville.
@bosephdfrog8761
@bosephdfrog8761 Жыл бұрын
I really do like your mix a bit better! Nothing beats the original bit of course. Love these kind of videos tooo!
@pjdisharoon6743
@pjdisharoon6743 Жыл бұрын
How do you go about finding these isolated tracks? Or are you mixing off different frequencies from the final bounced file?
@richardwhite4923
@richardwhite4923 Жыл бұрын
Dime was a huge fan of solid state amps. He insisted on solid state. Right before he was killed, he switched from Randall to Krank amps that had valves in it, which was one of his first amps with valves.
@wiggy009
@wiggy009 Жыл бұрын
You should release some of these mixes somewhere if you can.
@EyeShotFirst
@EyeShotFirst 4 ай бұрын
Dime's tone was perfect for how those albums were mixed. It would've sounded like a muddy mess if his tracks were recorded to today's tastes.
@jakubnowak649
@jakubnowak649 Жыл бұрын
I think I prefer the original version of the backing vocals in the mix, but generally it sounds awesome! I love this series and I'm looking forward to the next instalments of this series and I hope there are going to be more of these
@matthewduncan9405
@matthewduncan9405 Жыл бұрын
Even if people disagree we need more people just being honest with their personal likes and dislikes. Everyone puts out content that is 100% positive and everything is great 100% of the time but no person is actually like that. You can be honest without putting out “disrespectful” content. Appreciate the viewpoints!!! Also love these tones! I’m getting into mixing my own stuff now so this is awesome stuff.
@karmaandkerosene2885
@karmaandkerosene2885 Жыл бұрын
Important to remember that in the late 1980s / early 1990s the audio equipment most regular people used was terrible at reproducing deep bass and low end - especially car stereos. If you put a lot of low end in the mix most speakers would just flub out.
@SashaGarcia
@SashaGarcia Жыл бұрын
It’s not that dime’s tone is shrill or anything. People are just too used to metal becoming one big Periphery template to appreciate the authenticity of it.
@Kriegter
@Kriegter Жыл бұрын
My favourite Dimebag tone is the pre-cowboys sound specially Power Metal
@zachmillerdrums
@zachmillerdrums 4 ай бұрын
i like how mad people get over remixing a song for funsies
@Pushrod_Criff
@Pushrod_Criff Жыл бұрын
Where do get the solo tracks for these mixes??
@centroproiv5614
@centroproiv5614 Жыл бұрын
Where do i find this Walk multitrack? Thanks.
@Deinosoar
@Deinosoar Жыл бұрын
you have to make this an ongoing series, this shit is the bomb
@guitar_jero
@guitar_jero Жыл бұрын
Would love to hear Mike’s take on DT mixes
@burtosu86guitar
@burtosu86guitar Жыл бұрын
I never tried to duplicate Dime's tone, I prefer to play his riffs with modern tones. It sounds better in my opinion, meaning o like better the mix you made 🤘🤘🤘
@jeffwood2956
@jeffwood2956 2 ай бұрын
How did I not see this til now.. Mike chose violence on this day
@matforsbon
@matforsbon Жыл бұрын
5:33 And we Love it, and there's nothing you can mix it otherwise. Got That!
@barefootandindependent
@barefootandindependent Ай бұрын
why did you do the 2014 YT thumbnail face? to time travel closer to the release date of Vulgar Display?
@Chuckichanly
@Chuckichanly Жыл бұрын
where can i hear the full song with the new mix
@anastav6915
@anastav6915 Жыл бұрын
Good mix, i wonder if Dime would let you drive the song to that direction
@BecomeTheKnight
@BecomeTheKnight Жыл бұрын
Almost certainly not. He may be tickled by someone re-imagining the sound but it seems like he was very adamant about what sound he wanted.
@psychoslingers8732
@psychoslingers8732 Жыл бұрын
You took some of the brightness out and added some low end, which created mud. Props…
@whitneyryan-ng1cq
@whitneyryan-ng1cq 7 ай бұрын
This is some serious Dunning-Kruger energy. How many engineering credits do you have? Do you have any actual professional studio or gigging experience beyond bar gigs or your personal computer?
@JulianEmdon
@JulianEmdon Жыл бұрын
It's true, when I first popped Pantera into my tape walkman on the way home from school it sounded so heavy. Listening to CDs of CBH and Vulgar caused a bit of 'ear fatigue' with that bite IMO.
@justinbowen1183
@justinbowen1183 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the project files?!?!? I'm not feeling the after mix job, it sounds really muffled no room to breathe😢
@brandonmurphy8047
@brandonmurphy8047 3 ай бұрын
Your mix is definitely better. It's somehow smoother without eliminating any distortion, it's got more bass, and it has a bigger PUNCH.
@hudsonbakke8836
@hudsonbakke8836 Жыл бұрын
Mike here yet again to shit on all my favorite guitar tones
@ScottyWiard
@ScottyWiard Жыл бұрын
Where did you get these multitracks?
@ButBigger42
@ButBigger42 Жыл бұрын
Dimebag has the best tone for Pantera. Period.
@Roger-fs5yo
@Roger-fs5yo Жыл бұрын
Anybody that claims there's anything bad about Pantera is a diehard SHAGGS fan🤣
@blacksaona
@blacksaona Жыл бұрын
Whenever you did in the whole mix, it just sounds with bass boosted, no need to overprocess what is already processed. It sounds almost the same just with different eq balance. However it would be amazing to hear a whole production cover, with a modern mixing aproach.
@yakeeb3742
@yakeeb3742 Жыл бұрын
While I DO slightly prefer the OG based on uniqueness alone, I cannot deny how great your mix sounded. Love this series!
@ParabyssDean
@ParabyssDean Жыл бұрын
I like both, If I could make a hybrid of both the original and yours; I'd keep the original kick, and bring that low end focus to the bass guitar to try and give it that vibe they had on 'Far Beyond Driven' for the bass tone. However saying that, without being able to hear all 3 mixes, I could just be missing point of how it would sound in the mix.
@Ruddline
@Ruddline Жыл бұрын
Mike: an interest collab for you might be Sea of Tranquility channel. You have a lot of opinions on 60s 70s 80s rock, it would be interesting to know your favorite albums, songs and you could come at songs from a producer angle. They basically have you sitting there an hour and its more like a podcast the fans of that channel tend to become big fans of the people that guest there you might get a couple hundred new fans people buying Crusade albums. Just an idea but I like that channel is all.
@michaelthompson3286
@michaelthompson3286 Жыл бұрын
Your ...Justice remix recently was brilliant; it added so much character, but i feel like this did the opposite. I've never blasted Vulgar... in the car and thought there was anything "wrong" with the mix, but always cool to hear a modern take on things even to show how it doesn't fit every band 👍🏼
@23ograin53
@23ograin53 Жыл бұрын
Love the remixed bass.
@ThrashRebel
@ThrashRebel Жыл бұрын
I’m a Gen X, old school thrasher, and I never really cared for Diamond/Dime Bag’s (and Vinnie La Bella’s) scooped tone. I’ve always liked some mids in guitars. So, it’s not just your “millennial” taste. 👍🏻
@zahariasalbatic3961
@zahariasalbatic3961 Жыл бұрын
Man, you're mixing things up. Tone is one thing, then the dynamics is a whole different thing. You could have said you don't like the dynamics, or how the instruments got caught in the mix, but man, not only Dimebag's tone was monumental, it was the perfect tone for their totally fresh new style. What tone would you use when blending pentatonic scale with blues and even country flavours? Would you have rather used Overkill type of guitar tone? It would not have been suitable for Dimebag's characteristic syncopated riffs or staccato shredding and all the plethora of techniques deployed in his music. And by monumental not only did I mean unique, but... monumental. Leave his tone alone, dude, his tone was just fantastic.
@acidstorm001
@acidstorm001 3 ай бұрын
Yep, that 5K on the high end of the guitar I heard cut out instantly. It actually didn't sound that way on tape. I had a copy of it on tape and CD. CD had the spiky sound, while the tape was warmer sounding. I'd like to get my hands on those tracks to do a remix as well. Not because I think I can do better, but just to play with it. I'm a live sound engineer and I love to mix at home in Reaper. But getting GOOD quality tracks is difficult.
@AmericanWrathchild
@AmericanWrathchild Жыл бұрын
On todays episode of fixing shit that was never broken to begin with...
@austinclark6371
@austinclark6371 Жыл бұрын
what DAW do you use?
@SeverinoSE
@SeverinoSE Ай бұрын
Very interesting and informative, although I ended up feeling as old as the dinosaurs. 😅
@garyearth8265
@garyearth8265 Жыл бұрын
In 30 years time when I'm using the Ai-mix2050 I'll be saying "how weak did BecomeTheKnights remix sound" :) I personally happen to love the "brightness within the heaviness" of Pantera's tone when I first heard it released in the 90's...and still do today. Remember we are always comparing "now" to what recording technology existed before... In 1970 Black Sabbath sounded "better" that 1965 Who. In 1976 AC/DC sounded "better" than '70 Sabbath In 1984 Metallica sounded "better" than '70's AC/DC In 1990 Pantera's new tone just blew all the 80's "tinny" sound into the weeds. (Yet I still regularly listen and enjoy all of the above) Sound technology just keeps on improving and we get used to that new technology pretty darn quickly - its no point judging the old by these new standards.
@rageinternet9391
@rageinternet9391 Жыл бұрын
I can see the pitchforks coming from a mile away lol. Otherwise, cool remix👍
@loombaron
@loombaron Жыл бұрын
Im 43 and back in the day, I think it was in 1993, I was 13 and I saw some guys with vulgar display of power tshirts. Since in most situations they were a bit far away from me and they were walking fast, taking a bus, you know various urban situations, I couldnt read the name of the band in the shirt but the image caught my attention. Once I could read the name pantera property I went to a record store and asked for a CD from Pantera and the guy from the store showed me cowboys from hell. He let me listen to the album and I remember being amazed by the tone of the distortion. Back in the day I knew most metal bands by seeing guys wearing band tshirts or metal magazine covers. I miss those days.
@CyberChud2077
@CyberChud2077 5 ай бұрын
Please don't make Dime sound like a Djeneric nu-Djent band
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