Is Patrick Mahomes the most talented athlete ever, Chiefs run the greatest ever? | NFL | SPEAK

The Kansas City Chiefs are going back-to-back. They overcame a 10-point deficit to beat the San Francisco 49ers 25-22 in overtime. Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs won their third Super Bowl in five years (third in Mahomes' career) and are emerging as a dynasty. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones debate whether Mahomes is the most talented athlete of all time, then discuss if this Chiefs Super Bowl season is the greatest run ever.
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Is Patrick Mahomes the most talented athlete ever, Chiefs run the greatest ever? | NFL | SPEAK
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[@lifeaintbadshorts]

Not if my life depended on it.

[@kurosanyasuke8236]

Joy with the best line ever, “We do not need to rank everything as the best ever”. Man if this ain’t the truth I don’t know what is.

[@lakeozarkrei3767]

I'm a Chiefs fan... and I agree with you 100%. It's all subjective... these top QBs were all great in different ways. People just can't enjoy watching them play anymore.

[@user-tl4vc7zi8j]

Highly respect her not falling into the hyperbolic nonsense like everyone else on the cast as well as most other talk shows rn.

[@nicholassoares1676]

Agree 100%

[@CTKid203]

I respect that greatly

[@TerraHerr11]

I get so tired of that argument too .. getting old

[@AMusicnSportsnComedyfan]

Put some Respect on Kansas City Defense

[@bg0420]

Chris Jones about to get paid

[@joeyvaldez835]

@@bg0420he literally stated to KC “you gotta bring me back here” WE GOING FOR A 3PEAT🏆🏆🏆

[@user-yg7kj2bp4g]

Chris Jones should have been MVP HE DID SAVE THE GAME ON THAT 3 AND 4!!!

[@jackwoods9604]

Chiefs D Been Giving Mahomes a Piggyback Ride

[@doityourselfrcdrew6807]

James’s eyes when he saw the snake were priceless!😂😂😂😂😂 He didn’t say not one word and dipped out like he saw death itself!!😂😂

[@AnonymousUser-ss2qr]

that was apart of the show man.

[@darrellcarter4376]

So funny

[@kfi651]

OH LAWD!!!!! I just started choking on my steak when JJ got out that chair lol. He a real one 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@GenEF70chip]

😂

[@houseofvenusMD]

The pan to his empty chair is priceless 🤣

[@ALARGADORDECU]

He's like me, i dont Mess with snakes bro 😂😂😂

[@colliah19]

I was looking for this comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bronnyjamesjr.9644]

Chokin on dat meat I see

[@deciuswtasby]

Congrats to the Chiefs. As a 49ers fan I was sick but they took it to the squad and made adjustments. Salute 🫡

[@HYPEMANTV0]

Niners played to not lose and KC played to win that was the difference

[@truuee9016]

Someone on this show owes MVS an apology. We need the same energy, give him credit for how he stepped up in the playoffs.

[@MajorStormz]

I’ll never give him an apology for what he did in Green Bay 😂

[@truuee9016]

@@MajorStormz not about "what he did." It was about saying he's dumb or "not smart" after he missed one catch.

[@laneb5761]

Exactly he different in playoffs. He stepped up.

[@derekmathews1557]

MVS for some reason is different in the playoffs. I don’t know what it is. It’s like watching Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. MVS is not good in the regular season. But in the postseason in the last two years, he’s been absolutely unbelivable!

[@artofmickeypicasso9191]

I love Joy Joy. Because she's always going to be fair and honest. Doesn't sugar coat it, most importantly speaking facts over feelings

[@loststoryproductions]

lol except when she’s wrong

[@van2.060]

@@loststoryproductionsshe never runs from being wrong...she's still fair and honest...what are you talking about lol

[@twizzy585ful]

​@@van2.060we talking about the same Joy Taylor 🤔🤔😭

[@InReelTimeWithSeanB]

No doubt. Some stuff she be on that Kool-aid 😂😂

[@khalilcook3018]

Facts facts facts 💯

[@sedaw3261]

Mahomes is the combination of Brady and Rodgers. He's got Rodgers' talent and physical gifts, and he also has Brady's leadership, clutch factor, "killer instinct" and just an ability to find a way to win the game. We have NEVER seen anything like Mahomes before in the NFL

[@beaulah_califa9867]

Nah! Brady's first 6-years pale besides Mahomes'. Brady's first 3 SBs were won by the defense not b/c of Brady, the 199th draft pick at the time. Brady didn't become "Brady" until he got Randy Moss. Mahomes is 1 of 1. Mahomes has won more Championships in the First Seven years than any NFL player & his stats as an individual are simply shocking!. They have to look to other sports to find someone to compare him to. Wayne Gretzky, Bill Russell, Lary Bird, etc. It took Brady years to win a reg season MVP. Mahomes won 2 reg season MVP's w/in 6-yrs. Just look at the data man.

[@user-lt1fx2he5s]

Remember this wasn’t the best offensive talent Patrick Mahomes played with this season but he had guys that knew their role and played their position to the tee

[@streetzyskater]

Not one person mentions the guy who scored the most points and has been clutch for them in this entire dynasty. Harrison Butker. Dude has ice in his veins. Set superbowl record.

[@785joker]

Exactamente mvp

[@swametee2898]

Yeah! People forget that when you get in field goal range to win/tie the kicker has to be great too! Brady/ Vinatieri and Mahomes/Butker.

[@Bankstonbiz]

Right! He is not getting enough credit!

[@jeanfourcade]

Great point. Butker is one of those core players who never fail in clutch moments.

[@lancesagucio5615]

😂🤣Shady & James reaction to dat Boa🔥🔥

[@Jslowbro]

Man Almost copped an fcc fine😂😂😂😂

[@sonseed7541]

@@Jslowbro huh

[@groovymac5927]

I’m just grateful I’ve been able to witness Brady in his prime and now Mahomes. I was a youngster with Montana so I can’t cap on that.

[@slickchick5811]

Elway clears

[@bkeny4798]

Montana was special. He was a pocket QB but he was so precise with his passes. And he had jerry rice which no defender could contain. Especially on those slants. Montana is definitely up there as one of the greatest

[@essenenaziriteyirmeyahu851]

If you love mahomes, kelce, Reid, Chris jones and the chiefs!!! Hit like, here! Finally Acho admitted the facts!! 👇🏾❤️💛❤️💛❤️💛❤️💛❤️🎊🎉

[@robertmarquez9545]

😅 Watching Shady's reaction when the magician whips out that snake,priceless. His "flight" instinct is as sharp as his "fight" is.

[@legitdragon6202]

One thing that I haven't seen stated about the Chiefs, and am grateful for, is the Chiefs have been very fortunate during their Super Bowl runs to be relatively healthy at their core players. That definitely plays a factor in this success.

[@williamallen7984]

Meh-let’s not forget Mahomes did it on one leg last year 😂

[@roguemaster8099]

@@williamallen7984tell em

[@JohnHausser]

And ?

[@QUISWARD]

What mahomes literally won a superbowl hurt, then this year his oline was hurt and kelce was hurt majority of the year they've been banged up just like everyone else😂😂😂

[@carlosjordanjr5629]

What we had important people missing what you talking bout

[@kyletunnell2293]

mahomes played on one leg last year, also didnt have a oline due to injury

[@ADARZAHIR]

Can you imagine how these rookies feel that win the chip so early !!! Tranquil came over been on the opposing side sooooo long and comes over for one season and BOOM chip.. Rice first year BOOM ring... McDuffie and Pacheco and Karlaftis with some others the previous season BOOM first ring and now their second... its wild

[@19EHF]

Tranquil must be shellshocked to know what winning feels like

[@kellyely4758]

Give props to our awesome kicker

[@cookingwithladydcapers387]

Yes Harrison Butker was the glue that kept KC in the SB

[@matthewdaniels709]

The way James dipped is priceless 😂

[@AnonymousUser-ss2qr]

it wasn't funny

[@Mrfunnyhimself24]

He’s definitely going down as 1 of the greatest when he retire. Respect this young man’s game..And I’m an eagle fan, I pray and hope jalen can have an amazing career like mahomes

[@anthonydhatton]

That opening made my stomach hurt 😂

[@AnonymousUser-ss2qr]

why?

[@Heie_]

The magician really has shady shook 😭😂😂🐐🔥

[@brandonwatts2243]

Lmao James seen that snake and said y’all wilding

[@bigt1640]

😂

[@AnonymousUser-ss2qr]

why?@@bigt1640

[@nathanb.8866]

🐐🐐🐐 Mahomes we all have eyes

[@maskedman5657]

Delusional Chiefs fan spotted. Dang it only took one day?

[@sullaybjr]

​@@maskedman5657HE IS. Don't come up with the 7-3 argument

[@maskedman5657]

​@@sullaybjrIf you have to cope with the fact that you're so called greatest of all time has less playoff wins and SB wins than Brady then that's just pathetic honestly.

[@RodneyBrown-cr2fo]

Yelp 3 at 28 still playing went to 5 making good pace to seem like huh 🤣🤣🤣 you right tho 🤣💯

[@deondreafields594]

Eagles fan here, he’s by far the greatest QB I’ve ever seen in my life

[@15eddieful]

Emmanuel's speech... chills! "Give me your best, and i will send them home! "

[@MEANSTREET7586]

Watching young Rogers looks very much like Mahomes, the difference is, at 28, he has won 3 SB and has gone to the AFC Championship every year as a starter as well as the way that Patrick leads his team and supports his organization as he navigates through his hall of fame career. Just like Marino, talent can only take so far if you don't have the heart of a champion 🏆🏆🏆🔥💪🏈

[@jeanfourcade]

I also suspect the Mahomes has the personality to rally team mates and coaching staff around him in difficult times, whereas Aaron is known for pointing fingers and dishing blame away from himself. That difference must have a huge impact.

[@Benj722]

James was like I’m out of here 😂😂😂

[@TheShawnm28]

Aaron Rogers 😂😂😂. That guy is funny

[@jeanfourcade]

And wait for Aaron's performance next year, that ought to be even funnier than this season 😅!

[@user-ei2ll3pr6k]

Shady makes the show so exiting lol

[@AnonymousUser-ss2qr]

why?

[@jamestaylor954]

KC won the SB without 1k yard rusher or Rec then lead NFL in drops from WR that’s cray if you look at his WR stats. Rice 79 catches next rec had 27 catches. Travis had 93 catches. PAT is the next Goat!

[@charmainebacot8222]

Shady and James Jones be having me ROLLIN!!!🤣🤣🤣

[@michaelkearney1313]

Bro said Aaron Rodgers with a straight face

[@JackRice007]

That’s because Rodgers can flick his wrist and the ball goes 60 yds on a dot. He made it look effortless. I’d say Mahomes can join the top 3 of Marino and Rodgers though.

[@shawnsmalls5377]

Delusional

[@willcolbert1406]

@@JackRice007Mahomes has literally done what you described as Aaron doing 😭

[@MajorStormz]

You can’t deny that Aaron Rodgers talent was out of this world

[@TheCapn23]

​@@JackRice007Rodgers is a playoff choke artist with one fluke SB run, let's be real.

[@rollingwins]

Mahomes is different, no other QB in the league would drive down the field like that to win the Super Bowl, no penalties

[@sal4856]

Well not in the Superbowl but in KC playoff game in KC , Allen drove 75 yards under 2 minutes to take the lead, but his frozen brain coach couldn't hold a lead for 13 seconds

[@brianhardy612]

Big Ben did it against the Cardinals.

[@enigma13ff]

@@brianhardy612 Steeler fan here, it's nice when a QB gifts you a 100 yard pick 6.

[@785joker]

@@sal4856yall still sick n ran through yall again on this run

[@Dannycuddy]

@@sal4856Allen did that against a bad KC defense, Mahomes did that against a stacked Niners defense.. not to mention against the Bills #1 defense in the game u mentioned.. levels

[@williamallen7984]

James is on something. Rodgers isn’t more talented than Mahomes. Stop it. Dan Orlovsky said it best this morning: he came into the league as a phenom and developed into a savant…

[@justthrowitgolf]

possibly the stupidest ranking ever .. Rodgers is all about himself .. he barely won the only SB ( 2011 - 14 YEARS AGO) he has and he's been self centered and egotistical since

[@davidlora5079]

Do yall know what talented means?

[@YouReallyDontKnow]

@@davidlora5079do you? He really tried to say Rodger’s was a better runner than mahomes!

[@davidwalker2208]

Y’all talking about team success when discussing talent. Mahomes is not more talented than Aaron Rodger’s y’all need to be fr.

[@justthrowitgolf]

Mahomes statistically is WAY more talented than Rodgers .. pretty commonly held opinion .. better pocket passer ... maybe equally strong arms ... better mobile off schedule decision making . Aaron with all his talent only won the SB once 14 years ago .. since then he's just talented at complaining about his circumstances and not getting covid shots because of conspiracies ;) @@davidwalker2208

[@cypriancox]

The only issue I have with ex-players that are Analysts is that they always feel obligated to extend extra accolades to ex-teammates

[@jeanfourcade]

Part of the business. You never know how and when your pal Aaron Rodgers may help you in your media career, like launching your own show or something. Peac, Cyprian.

[@cypriancox]

@@jeanfourcade I totally agree with you 👋

[@daleprice8111]

MAHOMES CHECKED ALL BOXES THIS SEASON !

[@BinniamEskender]

I'm surprised how Shady has turned into my fav one on "Speak"

[@theonlytashab]

Joys laugh is hilarious

[@keenannorris3309]

joy is just gorgeous

[@kyletunnell2293]

the McCaffery commercial break makes it so much sweeter

[@danielcampbell1357]

“Aaron Rodger”😂😂😂 Drug test this man

[@sunnybay480]

Mahomes: talent+clutch+leadership+elevating teammates=GOAT.

[@austinellois1455]

💯

[@shawn5mobile]

Hey Joy, don't forget the 2012 Ravens, they beat Brady and Manning that year

[@user-it4yn9vz6c]

And Kaepernick cuz he was elite dat year

[@brianhardy612]

​@user-it4yn9vz6c😂

[@zzzkun2526]

That magic show was fire

[@robertharper3003]

I love your show! Thankyou for saying wonderful things about the. Chiefs. They are special!

[@Dezi9n]

This has gotta be my all time favorite sports show. The chemistry on speak with these casters is the new wave!

[@brianhardy612]

It's my 2nd favorite after First Things First. 😆 Love them both.

[@caughtinthevoidfloyd5821]

Greenlaw gets injured freak accident and all of sudden Kelce gets the ball. Freak ount accident and Kyle shanahan chokes another SB by not running. Its so predicatble under any shanahan team st this point

[@Dannycuddy]

Oh noo, the poor Niners only had like 8 other all pros to lean on after Greenlaw went out!

[@user-lt1fx2he5s]

The Chiefs were without All Pro Pro bowler Joe Thuney and a top 3 DT in Charles

[@isaiahmcconnell]

Greenlaw was not stopping Kelce the only person on the planet capable of stopping Kelce is himself 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@henrygonzalez3842]

The best part is achos tears and agony

[@markbay6775]

Shady and Joy yall riding with Us KC

[@TDR-0484]

I see they are taking notes from First Things First 😂

[@17arando]

If only they also copied the better set up for the discussion. Acho is so much smarter than his persona on this version of the show. I liked him a lot more on the old version

[@q-j-p]

@@17arando like him and Whitlock ngl

[@robertflood3007]

Yeah they are trying to pitch a camaraderie that doesn’t seem organic and then the performers are just a dead giveaway. Leave it to FSF

[@brianhardy612]

FTF is the best!

[@adekeyeifedayo7148]

Slowly becoming the second best show on FS1 after FTF. Keep up the good work

[@RONJAE212003]

Great show you all💯

[@JaZaarMercury]

For real. This clip is classic!

[@michaelkennedy-hp7ix]

This a good show luv u guy's ❤

[@tiyalewhitehurst338]

Pat Mahomes thrives when playing from behind down 10

[@dantheman8152]

JJ is a real one. He is gonna ride for his QB no matter what!

[@laneisahoward5535]

Wow,, thanks for the stats updates! Joy did her homework.

[@wwa9925]

That was a great game, but the star of the show was my guy Acho getting airtime during the superbowl!

[@chikushodiz91]

That question isn’t even a debate mahomes is ahead by galaxies

[@916ertainment]

The card trick lmao

[@justsaying5633]

Bro said Arron Rodgers was more talented than Mahomes, laughable.

[@josepolanco9870]

So true

[@maskedman5657]

I mean it's not a ridiculous statement honestly

[@andreharris3428]

@@maskedman5657it is only people that just dare to be different you know the type kind of folks everybody else like it they just find a reason not to lol it’s a word for it idk tho

[@justsaying5633]

@@maskedman5657 I guess you didn’t watch him play the last season with the packers. No wonder they got rid of him. You don’t trade the greatest talent ever Because he’s not.

[@jakieresykes3644]

The difference between Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes with his talent it translates to winning and he comes through clutch in big moments unlike Aaron Rodgers who choked in the big moment

[@martinwalker4320]

Who else saw Bailiff Acho in that Judge Beauty commercial?? 😂😂😂

[@dsstewbaby9]

Congrats Patrick

[@user-xb1vx7md3v]

With 15 seconds left Coach never thought about taking one of the two timeouts. He left in Patrick's capable hands trusting he would win it. ❤

[@jeanfourcade]

Should they miss the TD and take the FG, there would have been 2 more possessions to play. Reid was saving his TOs. But I tend to agree, he was confident PM15 would get it done once in the RZ.

[@chiecheung25]

23 points in 4 games. That's crazu. I saw it with my own eyes. And i still couldn't believe it

[@OHANA-Beach-Suites-CDO]

GREAT GAME!!!!❤❤❤

[@c.t.9277]

Amen to Achos Preaching!

[@theeross9060]

Patty Mahomes 🧈 in the clutch .

[@nwngenisys8969]

Montana had the 3 Amigos (Awesome Receivers Rice / Taylor/ Clark) & a stellar RB/Receiver (Roger Craig), Mahomes didn't have that this year or last, just Kelce. Let's not forget the awesome Chiefs Kicker Harrison Butker (Who broke the NFL Record for longest kick in this Super Bowl!)

[@user-bc4bu2dy6f]

Montana beat 3 QBs who was the league MVP the year he played them in the Super Bowl and also John Elway

[@MrClearlySpeak]

Dude said Aaron Roger's more TALENTED than Pat Mahommes!!??? Dude smoking something for sure

[@user-lt1fx2he5s]

How many playoff games has Aaron Rodgers cost his team with his horrible decision making 😂😂😂

[@mauricewells7838]

You must be new to football if you think that was an outrageous take.

[@kichki777]

​@@user-lt1fx2he5swhat does it have to do with talent? Talent is god given ability. There is probably someone in europe or africa or asia who has never watched a single nfl down who is more talented then mahomes or rodgers.

[@samtraveljunkie]

@@kichki777 Rodgers isn’t the most talented nor is the most clutch. He’s the best at choking as usual. Mahomes does things Rodgers can’t do, Rodgers things - LITERALLY ANYTHING can be done by Mahomes. How is Rodgers the most talented ? Arm and accuracy, Mahomes and Rodgers are equal. Running, Playmaking - Mahomes is superior in any sense. Clutchness - Mahomes IS WAYYYYY better.

[@UTP504]

@@user-lt1fx2he5sNOT many, but his defense averaging 30+ points allowed in their losses in the playoffs coasted them dearly, Rodgers is 1-6 in the playoffs when his defense allows 30 or more points, it’s almost like football is a TEAM SPORT.

[@maskedman5657]

This wouldn't be Speak if they didn't constantly ask braindead and mind numbingly bad questions.

[@jalinfaison]

Every show the same dumb questions..

[@nahziersims9717]

😂😂😂

[@bwp2bruce]

@@jalinfaison You have better questions? What are they?

[@zay57]

Yet you're still here, if you have better topics then say it

[@maskedman5657]

​@@zay57Sounds like a groupie response. I'm actually here to make fun of their dumb takes and questions 😂.

[@Jaggedcoast2coast]

Can someone please break the eagles rushing record so we don’t have to hear Acho introduce shady as the rushing leader anymore

[@thefiguredude]

The two time Super Bowl champion is bad enough.

[@maskedman5657]

On God 😂. Shady just like to troll

[@ameera82790]

😂😂😂

[@sierrasymone7590]

fat chance, teams don't really run the ball anymore so unless you have another Derrick Henry like back

[@smc1377]

The closest active player to be able to break Shady's record would be Jalen Hurts and he's still 4300 yards short.

[@MrJrfromdr]

Mahomes The Magician 🏈 🏆

[@dominiccokely4381]

when Joy brought up the stats on the 2001 Ravens defense I was looking just like JJ lmaoo

[@YoJah_]

i love this show

[@mamoelauaki5035]

Drop the Mic Joy 🎤. Always love your analysis and Commentary 💯👌😎❤️

[@eddieross7963]

LeSean McCoy is one of the most fortunate players in the league. Had the opportunity to not only play with 2 of the GREATEST QBs & teams ever but win TWO Superbowl's with both of them. And to make it even better it was back to back for him. With the Chiefs in 2020 and the Bucs in 2021

[@sandra969]

So happy for my chiefs ❤ i was sad for purdy and some of the guys they were so devistated ....i know bkth teams were exausted

[@anthonypalmer5225]

James Jones is trippin. Mahomes is way better than Rodgers.

[@antuionecollins8192]

Joy be dropping knowledge !! My fav up there

[@vwguru]

That brother dipped out QUIETLY! All we saw was an empty chair!😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@LEG2023]

What really Aaron Rodgers? Who complained that he didn’t have enough weapons every year he didn’t win always put the blame on someone else Aaron Rodgers? I mean Patrick Mahomes may guys who everybody thought were that great into Super Bowl champions! Talent, elevates everything around them Aaron Rodgers didn’t elevate anything

[@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON.]

Lol Stop it rodgers elevated his players he just didn't have the intangibles. E.g leadership/moment of truth decision making etc... Which came back to bite him in the playoffs. On strictly physical talent alone rodgers is arguably 1.

[@ThatsCrazyBro3752]

Every year the chiefs look like they are getting worse just to make the playoffs and go to the sb. Never doubt Mahomes and Andy Reid.

[@Chief2414]

I said mark my words chiefs will win , where is everyone at ???

[@odinsdad3668]

Hes a top 3 Qb of all time Generational Talent

[@c.a.b.2383]

Oh my goodness 😂😂😂😂 when the he pulled the snake out!!!!

[@vegasroller7026]

Yo that snake reaction was outrageous lmfaoo

[@tylerstuart9196]

Chris 95 secured it! Pat showed everyone why he is the best.

[@WontonSlim]

Pure talent I agree w James jones Aaron Rodgers most talented QB I’ve ever seen

[@louistate3774]

Dont forget, them 7pts against the ravens in the 2000 SB was on a kick return.... The defense aint give up that 7 lol CRAZY good

[@jimbogipson199]

Joy you are a magnificent being and bless 🙌 you 🙌 soul

[@dannyzoofoo]

15:32 The Raven love 💜🖤💜🖤

[@cypriancox]

Hey, love your reply. Peace

[@IsaacWilliams33]

Shady funny af 😂😂😂😂😂

[@michaelwilson939]

Camera caught the birds dropping into a compartment....still a dope trick😂

[@prestonmccoy7097]

I’m still giving the most talented athlete ever to MJ. I understand that Mahomes’ start to his career has been otherworldly, but he did come into a great organization that was already playoff caliber. I understand that his skill is crazy, but longevity matters and it’s just too early to say he tops MJ. He’s just had too much of a sport and cultural impact. Edit: The title was misleading. They only talked about talented QB. Yes, Mahomes is the most talented QB ever. But prime Aaron was nothing we had seen before until Mahomes came.

[@785joker]

Pistons entered the chat

[@ruben79nyc]

Great perspective by Joy Taylor.

[@teezyish]

BIG S/O to Joi keeping absolute logic throughout this clip. They love saying “greatest ever” . Thanks Joi for setting oh boy straight .

[@illku209able]

Aaron wins award for most underachieving….

[@TeamRocketRed]

Lowkey that magician was fire.