is persuasion the worst jane austen adaptation ever? 📖🙄🐰 (persuasion 2022 review)

[@Tasmanianval]

Why on earth they try to modernize dialoge to appeal the audience when the real reason we all watch period dramas is for things like "you have bewitched me in body and soul" 🤤

[@adoragrayskull]

They probably saw that Dickinson worked well and tried to do the same, except they chose the absolutely wrong source material

[@mikanchan322]

People tend to forger that this is not a line from the book - which shows that the language suits the times and audiences love it.

[@rebeccagray5464]

Right 😩

[@EH23831]

Yes! 🙄

[@EH23831]

Yes - and everybody was explaining everything… we weren’t left to figure stuff out on our own. Show, don’t tell, people!! 😒

[@laramartin1549]

When she said "He is a 10, and I don't trust a 10", I believe Jane Austen was rolling in her grave

[@monharris28]

austen about to haunt these damn filmmakers

[@thtswutshesaid]

@@monharris28 I sure hope she does!

[@oreas1372]

🤣🤣🤣

[@kmb6296]

I’d agree with you, but her bones have been dust since 2005 Darcy stomped moodily through a meadow in his pajamas 🙄

[@oreas1372]

@@kmb6296 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍

[@annahill99]

It’s so insulting for them to act like they had to change the language to draw in a new generation of fans, as if teenage girls haven’t been gobbling Austen up for decades with no significant alterations to her language if any at all

[@chiaralinnea4335]

yes that irks me a lot. I used to be irritated not only with the language of "pride and prejudice" (the novel) but the story as well. I was a bit younger, but now I get it. Sometimes it takes a bit of learning or growing to "understand" a novel but that's the beauty of it. This movie just straight up skips over the whole experience by assuming that the audience won't "get" it. Kind of a waste

[@culturalartistencounter4671]

I agree. It's obviously a play to hook in young viewers with the 'Jane Austen vibe' and 'aesthetic' despite totally disregarding the narrative themes of the original story. I imagine that the only viewers who enjoyed the film were a scattered few who have never read the original novel nor Jane Austin in general, and don't like to have intellectual engagement while consuming media. Such a shame.

[@Schokookekz1]

I read Jane Austen as a teenager and English is my second language. Part of the appeal to me was the artful dialogue. Way to ruin the fun...

[@happygolucky9004]

I agree. Why not do something like Clueless if you need to modernize a classic. It drives me crazy when so many of these period pieces force modern sensibilities into them. It completely takes me out of the world.

[@arozeisarozie]

It makes sense with the success of Bridgerton, though. The costumes and casting were modern and it was a success. They’re just following the money.

[@annemariestrehl]

The "I am an empath" line made me wonder if they were just aiming it at the TikTok generation and hoping for it to become a sound^^

[@bryanazapatka7369]

Yeah. As someone in the TikTok generation, if they really had to make an adaption like this, they should’ve gone with Northanger Abbey. It’s probably Austen’s funniest novel and Catherine is more qualified to break the fourth wall. The modernization should be kept to a minimum tho or completely cut out.

[@TheMissileHappy]

The thing is every time someone says that I immideatly distrust them. I've never met someone who said: I'm an empath who wasn't a narcissist in disguise.

[@bryanazapatka7369]

@@TheMissileHappy Then I guess in a weird way it served its purpose since Mary is self-centered 😂

[@lizh4933]

No kidding.

[@SarahSyna]

@@TheMissileHappy Honestly, you totally should distrust them. Speaking as someone who has hyperempathy as part of my autism (the stereotype is low to no empathy at all, but hyperempathy is also very common) it's extremely unpleasant to be this sensitive. It's inconvenient, annoying, and tiring, if you have issues with emotional regulation it makes handling them even harder, and it's led to emotional burnout. I don't think it's ever made communication easier for me, but it's sure as hell made life harder. If anyone ever tries to portray themselves as more understanding or whatever because they're 'an empath', they're either mistaken or lying. Knowing what you're feeling is not at all the same as understanding you.

[@ThisisFit]

Oh boy. "Worse than strangers--we're exes." I had no idea the adaptation modernized the dialogue like this! Thanks for the fair warning--I'm sure I won't watch it now.

[@isabelleer7501]

It's worth watching just be judgemental of it honestly!

[@laurelin4401]

@@isabelleer7501 I need to watch it with a friend so we can both mock it. 😂

[@ThisisFit]

@BroadBand Rework by morgan g. thank you! Maybe it will still be worth a look.

[@ThisisFit]

@@isabelleer7501 😆 Okay…

[@sofiaahmed6532]

I don’t want to watch it, in case it encourages some other director to make a sh!tty adaptation 😭

[@shawolsarah]

Anne is a heroine known for her inner strength and quiet resilience. This show made her an alcoholic desperate emo.

[@elenabob4953]

Add on the list resentful and judgemental.

[@tinymxnticore]

This is an insult to emos

[@bailegatita]

@@tinymxnticore how an 80 yr old man would write a female emo 🤷‍♀️

[@lawrencemakoare-z7p]

I couldn't have put it better!

[@avengerwidow9]

they turned her into a 'clingy ex-girlfriend' in this adaptation 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@danaroth598]

I just don't get picking Persuasion, Austen's most somber and mature book, as the humorous lampoon novel. Northanger Abbey would be way better suited for that!

[@MostlyCloudy]

definitely.

[@lucasmcinnis5045]

They're trying to ride on the coattails of Emma (2020)

[@welza001]

The somber and mature book that was actively critiqued for the modernism of the main character and the representation of romantic poetry...

[@welza001]

Also I don't get how you call persuasion her most somber and mature book when Mansfield Park literally speaks on the subject of slavery and colonialism

[@margaritavlacci]

​@@welza001 Because even though it speaks on slavery, Mansfield Park is almost always received as a morally wholesome social comedy with one of Austen's most ambitious love triangles before it is received as a text making important statements about slavery. After Northanger Abbey, Mansfield Park is probably one of Austen's most moralistic works, but moralistic doesn't always mean sombre.

[@trinaq]

The biggest misfire they made was changing Anne from a mature, thoughtful woman, as she was in Austen's novel, into basically a Regency Era Fleabag. Her constant fourth wall breaks and witty comebacks might have been better suited to Lizzie Bennet, Marianne Dashwood or Emma Woodhouse.

[@atinyevil1383]

I could totally see Emma Woodhouse breaking the 4th wall. Especially to rant about Jane Farefax.

[@erikdaniels0n]

@@atinyevil1383 honestly, I thought Autumn DeWilde’s 2020 adaptation of Emma worked brilliantly by playing up the comedy and giving it sort of a modern sensibility, while still keeping it very grounded to the time period. But honestly, I’d have loved if they made it more fourth wall break-y and quip-y, mainly because Anya Taylor Joy would have sold the absolute hell out of that

[@erikdaniels0n]

“Regency Era Fleabag” absolutely sounds like something that would be a blast to watch, but it would have to be an original story/characters, NOT adapting something as well loved and established as Jane Austen

[@atinyevil1383]

@@erikdaniels0n she definitely would have. But I honestly think Anya Taylor-Joy could pull off anything.

[@erikabautista7072]

Exactly! I adore the idea, but why use a character who has been established to be more mature, withdrawn and introspective for it? I'm so frustrated by the choices they made for this film 😭

[@CaterpillarFriend]

I tolerated Bridgerton because it was essentially a “period piece fanfic.” But this is feels like genuine disrespect for a literary classic. 😡

[@Spaced92]

For some reason we've hit a point where adaptations are regularly and blatantly disregarding the authors intentions. For example I know people shit on it a lot but the 2005 P&P is a respectfully modernised adaptation even if often compared unfavourably to a TV series with 3 times the length of the movie. You can't tell me Jane Austen aged that well for hundreds of years but in the 17 years since that movie that was a box office hit and kept the feel of the Jane Austen dialogue we have to reduce Persuasion, my favourite book of hers, to this.

[@Maialeen]

I minded it in Bridgerton because it was more extreme than the books in its everything. I was left with the impression that the author allowed and defended all of the ridiculousness because of a fat netflix check. So in the end it did seem like a cheap wish fulfillment fanfic.

[@filmfangirls9163]

Agreed! The thing I like about Bridgerton is that it has a good balance. And the characters stayed constant to what they were like in the book. Anne? They butchered her.

[@e.j.8006]

Darling, it IS genuine disrespect for a literary classic😂😂😂😂!!!

[@lilithgrrrl]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@neconeconeco]

There's literally no reason this had to be a period piece. They obviously didn't try with the costuming, they clearly had no trust in the source dialogue. They just wanted to cash in on the Austen train.

[@frolyhorn1426]

It makes the whole production look 'illiterate' so to speak.

[@mailys9475]

there is one reason and its profiting off the success of other period dramas and appeal to that very specific dark and light academia aesthetic everyone on tiktok is obsessed with. I really cant see this movie as anything else but Austen through a tiktok lense

[@neconeconeco]

@@mailys9475 in a vague sense yes. I don't think the producers are young or hip enough to really understand tiktok culture. it's like maybe they scrolled through a social media feed once and decided that since "the youth" like historical fashion and self-aware media, they thought that smashing the two together without any consideration for the source material would be a huge success.

[@mailys9475]

@@neconeconeco I agree! its like "oh so the kids joke about wanting a love relationship like in the old books let's make a film about that but with slang so they enjoy it"

[@lilithgrrrl]

🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@Romy-90]

Dakota Johnson was such a wrong casting choice for this movie. Like someone on Twitter said: "She looks like someone who knows what a phone is." Her acting and her looks are way too modern. Not to mention her accent and the obvious amount of make-up (lipstick) they used on her... She just doesn't convince me that I am watching a period movie.

[@strawberrylime33]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@daiishi_kinyoubi]

T

[@Raydog07]

I felt she looked very feminine and simple. I actually liked the way she was portrayed.

[@witchplease9695]

Never in my life did I think “she looks like she knows what a phone is” could sound so insulting but here we are 😂

[@ashesandposies]

With a diverse cast you really can’t complain that she looks modern 🙄 what we can’t stand is the modern way they speak and not the J Austin style

[@malloryscheidel]

The “you have bewitched me body and soul” was a wonderful example. I wish you’d mentioned that it was written for the adaptation and does not appear in Austen’s actual novel Pride and Prejudice. So really, it’s an example of an adaptation writing something that fits into its source material perfectly, rather than an example of an adaptation benefiting by staying true to Austens writing.

[@Arachne-qw1vr]

Savy point

[@pantherette113]

I wish this was mentioned because I found it a little weird to point out during a part I thought was about Austen's writing. It's a good line that works and crediting Austen felt untrue to Austen's writing AND unfair to the writers who adapted pride and prejudice for the big screen.

[@marisacrabtree8353]

Also, I am not sure the book version of Mr. Darcy would have ever said anything like this to Eliza…even as he pleaded his case…he was too shy. But the writing of his character as more verbally-expressive and the backdrop of that misty moor for the 2005 film got us there as an audience, still.

[@13spinnaker]

@@marisacrabtree8353 Exactly. He's diffident and uncertain of what words to use. "Dearest, loveliest Elizabeth" is about as far as he was ever going to go.

[@mikanchan322]

@@marisacrabtree8353 Yep! I don't think it's true to Austens characterization of him, but this slight reinterpretation of his character totally works for the film.

[@MushroomHat]

I really hope Northanger Abbey gets more attention. The fact that Austen wrote a story about a teen obsessed with gothic sexy vampire stories and how it skews your perception on romance almost 190 years before Twilight is just incredible and truly shows how modern her stories actually are.

[@strawberrylime33]

Omg, is that the storyline??? Sounds amazing!

[@redstar7292]

@@strawberrylime33 It is based partly in Bath and it's social whirl, but it's a beautiful very young couple, who's journey is to grow up and come out of their families shadows into their own. The romantic lead is a handsome, sweet man, but with a very sinister family, who live in a huge gothic Abbey, a rake, and seducer of an older brother, a terrifying father, and Catherine ends up thinking his father murdered the mother. It's also got a wild carriage ride, like in Dracula. Catherine is also loveably scatty like Brigit Jones.

[@TeaDeLuxe]

This would be such an amazing modernization with a good writer (or a fun "modernized" version like they intended with this Persuasion)

[@imanefrdt6163]

This book is probably the least regarded of all her works. Apart from the highly original storyline, it is also a parody and critique of the gothic novel genre, which was in vogue when Jane was a young girl. It draws a great parallel between the issues dealt with by this genre, notably vampirism, and how it plays out in real life within individuals. Not to mention the fact that it deals with some pretty scandalous themes for the time (like eroticism). The 2007 version is getting a bit dated even though I think it's very accurate, but I'd love to see the story get more exposure and appreciation without becoming a lame teen movie because the issues in the novel are not necessarily obvious to understand. And also the main character is very goofy and refreshing, quite unique comparing to all of her other ones!!

[@gixmonster]

@@strawberrylime33 it was supposed to be a satire of those kind of books, yes. It's also pretty funny; the main male character is the most charming, in my opinion; and the movie version from abt 15 years ago is pretty good. (But I might be biased: I can never decide if Northanger Abbey, Persuasion, or Pride&Prejudice are my favorite even though they're all quite different from each other:)

[@salthesalmonshark6849]

May the great patronage of Lady Catherine de Bourgh protect us from a Pride and Prejudice Netflix adaptation.

[@marthapapadopoulou3559]

and of any other Jane Austen novel.

[@luciadilazzaro2285]

Amen

[@robinlillian9471]

Why are you so upset about it? Just don't watch. They will get the message sooner or later when they keep losing money.

[@mariavictoriasorianolopez9932]

@samantha smith ksmssbmslskdkdd

[@iwouldgiveyouthemoon_]

if they ever do that, i'll just watch the 1995 bbc version on repeat to cleanse my soul.

[@Punipunpi_panda]

I just can’t get over how patronising it is to assume the younger generation are so dumb they can’t understand an older vocabulary

[@airvari5667]

This

[@totally_a_spy]

It's so insulting that they thought they had to simplify and modernise the dialogue because they didn't think the younger people would get it. Plenty of us watched pride and prejudice and Emma. We don't need it to be broken down.

[@Blue74]

Emma was so goood

[@suzybearheart530]

Exactly, totally-a-spy! I don't mind when beloved classics are modernized, but commit to the modernization and set it during modern times. When I want to watch a period piece, I want to watch a period piece - and the best thing about Austin's writing was her dialogue and characters which were completely changed in this stinker! I'll read the book or watch the older version (1995 with yummy yummy Ciarán Hinds) any day.

[@e.j.8006]

Agreed. If you attend a school that has British Literature in its curriculum, it's generally first introduced by the 10th grade. Modernizing the story to place it in contemporary times is one thing (and not offensive), but dumbing down the dialog with modern slang while everyone is running around in period dress just sullies the beauty of Austen's writing.

[@svietlana5091]

Taken that teenagers on TikTok make fun of ‘film bros’ or ‘book elitists’ and brag about consuming media mindlessly, I’m not even suprised anymore. There’s truly something so anti intellectual about time we live in.

[@dheu]

@@laurasenz Exactly! I was reading books like Pride and Prejudice, Les Miserables, Count of Monte Cristo, Jane Eyre, Tale of Two Cities, and Brothers Karamozov starting when I was eleven or twelve, and did not need any of them dumbed down or translated into "modern speak" just for me to understand them. (I mean, there were obviously some concepts in these books that flew over my head when I first read them but that was due to my age and naivety, not due to the fact that I was born hundreds of years after these novels were written.) Sometimes the style of language takes some getting used to, but these screenwriters and directors who tell us "you won't understand it, so we'll Urban Dictionary it up for you" are really just insulting both us and these books by saying "you'll never get it, let us just explain it to you" rather than trusting in the power and relatability of these classic works of fiction that have already stood the test of time for centuries.

[@sammysoppy3361]

if they were gonna modernize it like this they should have truly modernized it-like austen’s Emma became Clueless.

[@totallywireddd]

Thissss

[@isa3153]

my thoughts exactly

[@DemocritusWept]

Exactly. just said this on another podcast.

[@Pinkladyisv]

I’d love a version of this like Clueless or Bridget Jone’s Diary.

[@janellimarie]

Clueless was so well done!!! One of my faves.

[@elly7445]

Tired of this idea that we must dumb things down in order to get an audience. The book is a masterpiece, if you do it justice then you allow an audience to get glimmers of its beauty. The last thing our cultural discourse needs is a movie like this.

[@CatholicForever1]

Yes, I agree! We want to modernize everything, but our modern culture has very little class

[@maryhamric]

Elly. You are so right. So damn right.

[@rini9325]

@@CatholicForever1 "class" is not a good thing. It's a disgusting, elitist idea.

[@elly7445]

@@rini9325 perhaps by “class” they weren’t attempting to make a statement about elitism but were rather lamenting the fact that this society doesn’t think people are capable of understanding and learning from challenging artistic presentations. Having a group of people who decide what the mass will be able to understand is a bit more elitist than this comment. Though I understand the word choice perhaps reflected an idea that is by nature exclusionary. Jane Austen’s work is beautiful, difficult and timeless. To present in a way that’s true to its original presentation asserts that the audience is capable of understanding something challenging (which they are!) I think it was less to do with elitism and more about the issue of not honoring and unearthing the beautiful works of the past (as with austen’s work it is always timeless and so a recontextualization into modern day can uphold an interesting mirror to our modern society when done well). I get it, it’s not an easy thing to make 200 year old art accessible to a lot of people, but Jane Austen’s work never looked down on others but rather brings you up with her. I wish we had a movie which reflects this mindset

[@mealeahidden8659]

@@rini9325 It seems that by 'class' they're referring more towards the notion of manners not a class divide. I can't say I totally agree, it's pretty apparent in Jane Austin novels and historical evidence that people during the decade of the regency period (and much of the time surrounding it) were just as cynical, rude and self-centered as they are today. However their form of etiquette created a sense of 'polish' to their behavior that isn't often seen today, especially with the anonymity of the internet. Good hearted and sour people existed then just as they do now. All that being said, this film was an appalling adaptation of an engaging literary piece which showcased the wide variety of differing personalities and interpersonal relationships, turning it into a rom-com, obtusely humored and poorly written, forgettable film.

[@missblondiam]

Something that really bothered me, was that there was absolutely no chemistry between Wentworth and Anne. I felt like there was no desire or longing for the other person. It almost made me wish they didn't end up together.

[@ChristianneDarlene]

SPOT ON 😭

[@Liskafm352]

Excatly. I thought at times they would go as far as change the ending since they already ruined the story anyway 😅

[@missblondiam]

@@Liskafm352 Haha Exactly! They should have let Anne marry Mr. Elliot lol

[@justivy2298]

This is what I was thinking when they reunited. No chemistry at all.

[@marchbros-bk9hp]

I actually felt like Wentworth didn’t long for Anne as much tbh!

[@ssshddddd]

as a teenage member of the younger gen i just want to say that this attempt to modernize the story "for us" was as much a slap in our face as it may have been for Jane Austen herself

[@ruthhorn3801]

Exactly, I'm 14 and a huge Jane Austen fan and everytime I see people defending this movie because "it caters to a younger audience" I just want to scream! I hated this movie and it's dialogue, it felt so patronising.

[@zencat55]

it is patronizing to assume they have to modify an original story so younger people will "understand" it. Love is something anyone can understand

[@danielaf1487]

I am literally old enough to be your mother (my own son and daughter are 14 and a half and 13) and I absolutely hate how the media patronizes the younger generations and thinks they don't understand, or can't relate to a classic the way even just their parents could. They're called "classics" for a reason: they transcend time and speak to everyone, their messages, vibe and themes are eternal. My 13-year-old daughter is attracted to the style, music and stories of the 1940s and 50s, for instance, which is really weird because those decades came long before even my time. But we're all individuals, whatever our age - and that's precisely the beauty of it!

[@kookiecream7259]

Honestly do they think we are idiots or what

[@gabs7519]

I needed the modernization 💀

[@societycrumbles]

My favorite moments from the film: "Single and thriving". Calling a stack of sheet music "a playlist". the frowny face on the letter. "We're worse than strangers, we're exes". I all seriousness, I don't mind anachronisms, but if they wanted to update the dialogue that bad, they could just set it in 2022.

[@trashbug4843]

haha yesssss the playlist and frowny face were tolerated modern pokes I tolerated

[@marinapeli9478]

Yes! Also “he’s a ten. I don’t trust a ten” 😂

[@randomlyswatching9481]

And name it Persuaded

[@chikannnn]

@@marinapeli9478 oh my goodness...

[@nelliekat403]

What about the octopus line lmao

[@lbh515]

this movie me lost me when the father was looking himself at the mirror, with 2 servants fixing his clothes and hair, while reading a book out loud about himself and surrounded by his own portraits and Anne still looked directly into my eyes and told me he was vain. What was the necessity of that?? and soon after, he reads the descriptions of his daughters like "elizabeth elliot, born in I don't know when, the prettiest in society" and Anne interrupts to say "elizabeth, my older sister", "mary elliot, born in some day, married to I don't know who" anne: "Mary, my younger sister" and then it's her turn and she says "me, the middle child" YEAH, WE'VE REALIZED! YALL HAVE THE SAME SURNAME AND YOUR BIRTHDAY IS SAID RIGHT AFTER - WILL YOU SPELL THE REST OF THE MOVIE FOR US TOO??? the director must have thought the audience had a peanut for a brain

[@niremgucin]

Literally 2 unnecessary expositions intertwined

[@AH-ku9gk]

I might not have minded the modernization of the dialogue or the complete change of tone had it not been for Anne narrating the entire story to us. Just really lazy writing and assuming your audience is too dumb to understand the interactions between characters.

[@CatMcCloud]

100%! Hit us over the head with it!

[@evalita9]

They made eight years of regret and depression look like a recent break up. I agree, they didn't get the book and would have been better off adapting a more light hearted novel. I enjoy Dakota in other movies but with the different styling they made her fall out of time even more and not look like a wallflower. 1995 Persuasion remains the best.

[@trianglemoebius]

​@@c.w.8200 She was great in "All That Glitters". I have a strong feeling that directors pften forget she's still a fairly new actress and don't provide the correct amount of direction. Even if you have A-list skills, C-list directing isn't going to get those to show, especially if have D-list amounts of experience.

[@Kuroyupik]

"Honestly, if you have Henry Golding why would you not cast him as the main romantic lead? That man could have chemistry with a rock" YESSSSSS!!! I actually thought he was the main lead until I started watching the movie. What a waste.

[@-Theo-]

My mom was watching this movie next to me and the second I saw him I immediately sat down to watch with her, he’s so handsome

[@villiawalker]

I agree with everything you've said.

[@AW-uv3cb]

I've heard somewhere (but I cannot confirm it, might have been a rumour) that Golding was offered Wentworth's role but preferred Mr Elliott as it was a more interesting character... and seeing how the script turned out, I can't say I blame him. Wentworth has nothing remotely interesting to say or do in this version! Having said that, I do think that Golding would've been able to squeeze more out of that role so the bad writing would've been easier to overlook...

[@csmania8263]

Without a doubt, the worst adaptation ever. The lead is always smiling, constantly, where is the heartbreak? where is the regret? Even Notting Hill has more of those.

[@creativestudio101]

Exactly, she's smiling even when she's recalling something sad or hurtful. She's like posing... Not acting

[@okobojigirl4p7]

The director is an idiot. There's nothing witty or clever about the writing. And he's managed to insult two generations while trying to justify his reasoning for the poor script and tone of this poor excuse for an adaptation. Emma did a brilliant job with drawing people in without this gimmick. I was so looking forward to this movie and it just left a bad taste in my mouth. I feel like I need to rewatch Sense and Sensibility to cleanse myself.

[@imasinnerimasaint]

I had to immediately watch 1995 Persuasion to cleanse myself.

[@AutumnC22]

I did the same thing!

[@LeniTjahjadi]

I just googled it and first off, the director is actually a woman and based on her IMDB she's not a very experienced director (7 movies she directed), compared to Autumn de Wilde who had directed 30 movies for like 17 years.

[@luciadilazzaro2285]

@@LeniTjahjadi Actually "Emma." was Autimn's first feature film, but she had a lot of directing experiencia prior to the movie bc she had directed music videos. Plus she is a photographer and the style is impeccable

[@isapheonix]

Anne elliot gave me hope foe years. She was mistreated by her family and badly regretting things about her life but managed to find friends that respected and appreciated her and eventually found a way to make her life hopeful again. They did NONE OF THIS.

[@selectedshipper8282]

“Modern witty approach” Like Jane Austen isn’t modern and witty already

[@floraposteschild4184]

And like modern == witty. Not in this case.

[@WildwoodClaire1]

The glaring problem was that the film utterly failed at "witty."

[@stellasdoesstuff]

Which I think the recent Emma adaptation proved... And did so much better at!

[@holly22972]

“Honestly if you had Henry Golding, why would you not cast him as the male romantic lead?” Ok but honestly though. He stole every scene he was in and made me more interested in his relationship with ms. Clay from what little screen time they had together than the entire movie made me about Anne and wentworth. Also, I just adore Henry Golding, he such a great actor

[@Jassiepoohbear]

Couldn't agree more!!!

[@ketilinsilva8970]

He is just way more captivating right?

[@Spaced92]

Diverse casting generally just means checking off a list, not actually being willing to cast starring characters as asian or black even if makes perfect sense. No offense to the guy playing Wentworth, but they made it painfully clear that they could've done better.

[@lucindakeating7871]

for real i did NOT understand why they didn't cast Henry golding as the main love interest. He had way more charisma than Cosmo Jarvis

[@kifacorea]

Asian men are generally second fiddle to a white male lead

[@carmenm.4091]

The reason why I watch period dramas is to “travel back in time” to a time when things were “simpler and more romantic “….

[@marysmith5003]

As for Wentworth and colorblind casting, I thought Cosmo Jarvis is black, tho light-skinned. He has looked black in other roles and here he is playing against another light skinned but darker black actor for a number of scenes (Louisa).

[@carmenm.4091]

@@marysmith5003 I haven’t watched it. I’ve only seen and read the reactions on this adaptation,enough to know I don’t want to see it and get worked up about it. I am personally not against casting actors with an other skin colour as long if it’s believable or functional or gives the role more depth, not just for the sake of being woke. (I got a job in the past because they needed more people with a foreign background and I got the job for that reason, not for my skills. It felt insulting to me)

[@marysmith5003]

@@carmenm.4091 As for why you got that job that you feel you got because of the color of your skin, how did you do? Did you perform well? With any given job, high or low or medium or however you want to categorize them, multiple candidates exist who could perform effectively. In the past, and it continues now in significant numbers I suspect, the potential candidates pool has excluded those from certain racial or ethnic backgrounds or who were considered inappropriate for reasons not material to real job requirements.

[@gigggiii]

Lmaoo

[@Girl-rj3qe]

Same thing with historical kdrama where I didn’t like it if they put upbeat songs that dont fit the time period.

[@netherworlde]

Anne is a lonely character throughout most of the novel. Although she is almost always surrounded by family and friends, there seems to be this impenetrable veil between her and everyone else. Having this Anne look to the camera destroys the impression that she is alone. The audience is meant to be her friend. If Anne doesn't seem so alone, where is the great joy in reconnecting with Wentworth? It diminishes the best part.

[@ellencoleman4604]

To be fair, if they'd actually gone the Fleabag route, they could have used it as a clever device to emphasise her loneliness.

[@MTA3]

I saw a post that said “tell me you watched Fleabag and didn’t get it, without telling me you watched Fleabag and didn’t get it” Fleabag is more than just breaking the fourth wall! What they’ve done w Persuasion is a crime.

[@natasha8966]

I don’t know if you have seen bbc Miranda it’s a comedy where she does this. It’s very funny bit it’s now overused back in 2009 it wasn’t so it was new again. I always thought fleabag copied it as it came out afterwards.

[@ChocolateCutie11]

@@natasha8966 fleabag is breaking the fourth wall bc it was originally a play, so it was taken from there more then from other tv stuff

[@jaguarenduda]

oh god yes.

[@Chuuzus]

i love Dakota Johnson but she just did not fit into the time period era. her sisters in the movie fitted more than she did

[@trinaq]

Agreed, I believe that this is Dakota's first foray into a period piece, and that she might not have much experience with them, but she seemed to be rather uncomfortable in the role, compared to some of the other actors.

[@WHAATEVEN]

Mostly her hair and costuming, it’s like they intentionally made her more modern than the other characters???

[@ThatPazuzu]

She has a face that knows about smart phones

[@opuimor]

Mary>>> Anne honestly mary's character stole the show for me i loved her

[@ceniceroo]

@@ThatPazuzu lmaoo

[@camoumilecamoflage8875]

Persuasion is my favorite Jane Austen book because when I read the book, I just turned 30, still single and already feeling hopeless about the whole online dating scene, and so I could completely relate to Anne Elliot. When Captain Wentworth comes back, I utterly felt the angst of seeing "the one that got away", the jealousy from watching him seemingly interested in a younger, livelier woman, and the resentment coming from the man upon seeing the woman who broke his heart. But then it is juxtaposed by the hopeful scenes of him quietly showing concern, how he was the only one who noticed she is injured and needs a carriage ride, how he is sure that Anne is the most reliable person during the accident. Then there is Anne subtely finding her confidence to take charge, to stand up for herself and making the correct read on people like sly Mr. Elliot. This movie gave me nothing - no angst, no regret, no resentment, no hope and no growth. I was dissappointed and sad that my favorite Jane Austen novel still has no proper adaptation (I also did not like the earlier versions). Captain Wentworth's final love letter is still the most satisfying declaration in my opinion from Jane Austen's male leads (sorry Mr. Darcy) but I guess it just doesn't translate to the screen. - END OF RANT (sorry for the essay lol)

[@Adri-wg6kt]

Very well said. I agree with your sentiments on relating to Anne.

[@aylin7716]

@camoumilecamoflage8875 I haven’t read the novel or watched this movie thanks god. But your comment about how you related to persuasion made me really want to pick the book up and read it! I’m only 21 but I do sometimes get scared to of ending up being too old and don’t find anybody. I hope you have found the one 🌹❤️

[@ems0up]

'Now we're strangers, worse than strangers...we're exes' MY SOUL LEFT MY BODY OMG WHY NOOOO

[@Glassonful]

I don’t know why, if they wanted to do a modern adaptation, they didn’t just set it in a modern time period. Clueless and Fire Island prove that you can put Austen’s characters into a modern setting in fun and interesting ways, you just have to have understanding and respect for the source material.

[@redstar7292]

The love story would be good as part of a thriller as it's very psychological.

[@laurenbennett2702]

Agreed. The Lake House was a much better loosely modernized version of Persuasion for me compared to this one.

[@BeautifullyTragicxx]

Obsessed with the line about her listening to music alone in her room. how are you going to do that anne??? It's 1810 anne!

[@scarlettptheoriginal]

Ooh excellent point! I guess...somebody's playing a fortepiano in a different room and Anne's...alone in her room listening through the walls? 🙃

[@LadyGreensleeves33]

Same! Lol. Like, elaborate please

[@AishInTheHouse]

She's made a "playlist" on her ipod 😆

[@ellicel]

By making Anne such a sassy girlboss you can’t truly empathize with her having given up on love when he first proposed. Because we meet her so many years after that decision, it’s crucial to see her insecurities and how she is overlooked by all those around her. Dakota has too much agency and is stunning. Who could buy she hasn’t had a ton of offers, especially when she’s such a good flirt? Her transformation is so wonderful and a message that could have been so uplifting, especially for young women who are likewise shy and lacking in self-confidence. Instead we end up with yet one more chick flick with characters who have no depth. And where we’re supposed to buy that the gorgeous protagonist is anything but glamorous.

[@monharris28]

yeah i think she's too good looking to play anne, the casting is f up

[@inari869]

This

[@14478100]

Agreed. Anne's complexity lies in being highly intelligent and this contributing to self doubt and susceptibility to being persuaded by people who have a misplaced confidence in their simple worldviews. Whereas this leaves Anne with nowhere to grow just five minutes in. The 1997 film was so good in articulating the unpleasant sense of being stuck because of the thoughts of others swamping you.

[@sibyllah.7703]

Also, if I remember correctly, her older sister was supposed to be quite beautiful... At least prettier than Anne... I haven't watched the movie yet (and now I'm not sure I want to) but, judging from this video, Anne is actually the prettiest...

[@daonlyboriqua11]

Sounds like you’re projecting your own insecurities into the movie. No they don’t need to cast someone you specifically deem unattractive so you can feel better about yourself while you watch. Looks are subjective anyway so that’s neither here or there.

[@caitlinchard2301]

It’s when she said she felt so “electrified” when electricity hadn’t been invented yet

[@fruzsimih7214]

Static electricity has been known since the 18th century and was quite fascinating for people at the time. Mary Shelley's Frankenstein is from the same year as this novel, and there, the monster is brought to life with electricity.

[@vericvoidal]

there was static electricity actually

[@PunkHime89]

@@fruzsimih7214 Ahhh but it was feared to the point of demonization! That’s exactly why Mary Shelly wrote Frankenstein, she was appalled, just like everyone else, at the idea of electricity. There weren’t many common uses for electricity yet, it was still a new discovery, and one of the main studies was done on corpses and the corpses would “move”. Horrible! Playing GOD! So this would never be something people would say. It goes against the time. Same can be said about her playing at the French Revolution and saying “let them eat cake”. That’s like re-enacting the fall of the twin towers for fun. People of her status would have been terrified of what was happening in France and Jane herself had a family member who had to flee France at the time.

[@melobski4]

LMFAO

[@kaemincha]

the word was actually around at the time though (obv the syntax is still off for the time)

[@anudarib]

I think Persuasion is a very personal book for Austen. It shouldn't have been defiled like this.

[@oldtimemachine]

the only thing i enjoyed was her sister mary, the actress did a really good job delivering her lines in a fun way

[@opuimor]

She ate Anne up period

[@Svengali764]

Her voice is so good! She could go from clueless to self aware without changing facial muscles. Phenomenal!

[@airamlimatog1334]

a lot of people hated her "im an empath" line, but it genuinely made me laugh. she was hilarious all throughout

[@mariem24601]

I was excited about her. She was in one episode of the Witcher and I always wished it was possible to see more of her because she was so good.

[@MsJubjubbird]

But I hated that the gave her modern language when things like self care and empaths just didn't exist.

[@azimiza1210]

I have issues with the tone as well. This adaptation screams "i'm not a regular mom, i'm a cool mom". The novel was somber but we don't need a intentionally cool/hip adaptation to enjoy and appreciate the storyline. The modernised lines really lack of regency-feel and sounds more twitter-tiktok-ey. Plus i find this version of Anne too gilrbossy & not-that-other-girl instead of relatable.

[@wkejnwelfvnwklnv]

I support this!

[@nilotinner2377]

Love this comment

[@EmmaAndEmmaAndEmma]

As an introvert prone to depressive introspection, I always loved Anne's character as a mature and truly interior look at chronic heartbreak. To me, the appeal of Anne's story is how she quietly navigates through her internal struggles, which are hidden away from her oblivious family and peers. I hate the idea of rewriting her into another Lizzie Bennet -- it erases what was really unique and appealing about Anne among Austen's heroines.

[@monharris28]

fellow introvert here, and agree

[@omnipotentfaces1514]

Yesss we never get introverted heroines who win at love. Anne was our representation and I was so sad they made her a typical quirky sarcastic girl boss! - irl this person is just an asshole aswell

[@pippiecarr9378]

Elizabeth Bennet wouldn't act this way. I don't know why everyone keeps saying this. For all of Elizabeth's outspoken ways, she knew and understood how to navigate society properly.

[@louiseerlacher5729]

Absolutely agree. A hero to all those who feel overlooked and unheard. She has always been my favourite Austen heroine.

[@scarlettptheoriginal]

@@pippiecarr9378 absolutely! This Anne was downright rude and inappropriate in public - Elizabeth was *always* polite and correct in public, even when she was seeing the humor in a situation. If anything, this version made Anne into Lydia.

[@chipmunkpark8826]

The missed the opportunity to exploit Dakota's reserved image for Anne. Dakota is perceived as a little introverted, quiet and yet funny. Except for the funny part she would've been an incredible Anne, and I'm sad they made her do a version that doesn't live up to the book

[@itssarah3438]

Exactly she was a shy and reserved person but I disagree with the term "depressive" that is used to describe her

[@BearlyAwake13]

Agreed. It is ridiculous that they managed to get Anne so wrong here, that Dakota's character in Fifty Shades is somehow closer to resemble Anne, than her actual portrayal of Anne. Anastasia Steele would still be far from a good Anne mind you, but at least she shares Anne's shyness if nothing else. With good writing and directing Dakota could have made a decent Anne. Instead we got this travesty

[@BearlyAwake13]

@Day No? I didn't claim anything about her acting abilities. Nor will I, because while I can tell when someone is acting very very poorly, that's as pretty much it. I'm bad with faces in general, both in recognizing and reading them, and so acting isn't really something I feel I can judge. What I did mean in my original reply is that regardless of actual acting skills, the judgemental and condescending lines, the smirking at the camera etc were probably decisions made by the writing and directing. I doubt they let the actor just give the character whatever personality she wanted, and the personality change is what I take issue with. So I think Dakota could have been a much better Anne with different writing and directing, I think my original wording was that she could be a decent Anne? This feel like a very clumsy and rambling way to explain that I'm a dumbdumb about acting, but I don't know how to explain it better or more succinctly, I'm sorry. I will leave those discussions to people like you who seem to know far more about it

[@therealjennawithanh]

I just couldn't get past the terrible casting choice of Dakota Johnson. The modern language ("self-care" is actually used) is atrocious, but Dakota Johnson is absolutely cringey in this role. I don't know how someone can overact and underperform so miserably, but, by God, she manages it.

[@teresarivasugaz2313]

She's another nepotism child with mediocre acting skills (like Lily Collins, for example)

[@kristinmunroe2952]

She was cringey in 50 shades too

[@danielaf1487]

I guess she's a classic case of nepo baby, then - not a very good actress, when it comes down to it. Not awful perhaps, but not that great, either. Which is a shame, since somewhere out there, a very talented young actress who isn't the daughter of Don Johnson and Melanie Griffith will probably never make it as big as Dakota.

[@khfan4life365]

Dakota was the wrong choice for this role. She’s too “modern”. It’s like she’s a 21st century girl who was transplanted into the Regency era. I half-expected her to pull out an iPhone and post on Twitter. Also, her accent was terrible. I’ve seen American actors do pretty convincing performances as British characters (eg Scarlett Johansson and Natalie Portman in Other Boleyn Girl, and Robin Wright as Buttercup in Princess Bride), but her performance was awful and unconvincing.

[@aylin7716]

@khfan4life365 Agreed 👍 When I found out Dakota is playing Anne for Persuasion movie I just knew it will not be good. She is for some reason too modern. All these Victorian era clothes look like a costume on her - It’s not convincing. Her makeup is also very modern if you take a close look at it. It’s just like a wrong puzzle piece you have put in a wrong section.

[@GemAndMoth]

Omg the “he made me a playlist” was so cringe. Even Beidgerton would never…

[@wkejnwelfvnwklnv]

Right?!

[@rubyblue4945]

Horrible idea

[@emilypresleysee]

I actually laughed out loud at how ludicrous it was and rolled my eyes. It was at that point I knew I was going to hate it but figured I'd at least finish it before making a complete judgement.

[@kseniav586]

That's a kind of joke we would come up with in middle school while adapting a historical play for school theatre. Sure seemed funny in seventh grade.

[@PennyPennyPennyPennyPenny]

I hated it. It was weird and awkward and not funny.

[@crewmatewillthrowthesehand7600]

they saw bridgerton's success and so made another show by randomly picking a novel they've never read properly just because it's by Jane Austen.

[@crewmatewillthrowthesehand7600]

@samantha smith not a big deal for me.

[@crewmatewillthrowthesehand7600]

@samantha smith sure who cares as long as you do it right and the costumes are accurate. You sound as if something like that has never happened before. The geisha in memoirs of a geisha isn't even Japanese lol and its still a good movie. The last samurai is a white kid self insert fiction. And it's still a decent movie. Plus period pieces gets endlessly produced so if u want to see an entirely white cast, then feel free to watch any previously existing work???

[@crewmatewillthrowthesehand7600]

@samantha smith I'm just saying it doesn't matter. There never have been accurate casting 100% and there never will be and we need to live with that. There will always be plenty of movies on the same book produced ever so often because surprise surprise, there can be more than one type of movie on the same period genre or the same story itself. Bridgerton don't take itself seriously, neither does Malcom's list. Its supposed to be for all people to be able to self insert into said period like how white kids want to be a samurai so that's why the Last Samurai was produced. It's silly to even care like how u expect me to be mad that you'd turn black panther white. Just like how one movie with black cinderella doesn't affect the hundreds of cinderella or cinderella inspired films, one or two mixed cast period films doesn't affect the hundreds of period films. One white panther flim won't matter to me cos black panther movies won't disappear just because a white panther movie is released. As long as the costumes are near accurate and well researched and flattering and the script and lines respectful of the actual culture portrayed, I don't care if its Asian, African, European, Australian, North or South American. This is exactly the reason Persuasion flopped because it's an actual classic and the movie didn't take it seriously and added modern lines to cheapen and dilute it's impact. Context matters.

[@crewmatewillthrowthesehand7600]

@samantha smith I don't watch bridgerton or malcom's list for historical accuracy, I watched the malcom's list short for Gemma chan in a gorgeous empire waist like dress. And she's gorgeous, thank you. I watch Bridgerton for obvious reasons called Simon Basset. Same way a bunch of samurai sword collecting kids don't watch the last samurai for accuracy. They just wanna look cool with...​ A samurai sword. Or that no body cares that Karate kid is learning Kung Fu and that these two arts are from different countries. If you want accuracy so much then there's plenty of other movies like every iteration of Pride and Prejudice, every iteration of Emma including 2020 one, Great Expectations, Jane Eyre... The list goes on.

[@Eliza15151]

Anne is represented as a depressed and disappointed wine aunt. And that’s not what she was. She had to live a life of being over looked and the only normal one in her family with no way of escape as times were different she knew she had a love and a life with someone but it was just out of reach and that’s why it makes it so much sweeter when she finally gets what she deserves. I hate how they have changed her and the book in general Austen has to be done right if not it becomes this. Also the whole point of it because called persuasion is because it shows her maturing from easily persuaded to regret to not being persuaded when she got her second chance.

[@littlemisspsych1218]

There’s modernising language to make a formal novel accessible and then there’s having a regency heroine describe someone as a 10.

[@silsail]

Pride and Prejudice 2005 is a good example for simplification of a story to make it more understandable. Did they change dialogues and cut some parts? Absolutely, but I can perfectly understand, for example, why they had Charlotte explaining that being 27 and unmarried (and not rich) was a problem at the time.

[@dreadwolfrising]

In trying to "modernize" the dialogue (which was already pretty approachable), they've somehow managed to make it feel dated already, and the film just came out. If they had to do a modern interpretation, a reimagining like Clueless would've worked far better

[@pollyflores418]

The movie annoyed me as more than an adaptation, just as a film. Almost every scene made it clear the filmmakers thought I was too stupid to enjoy an actual period film.

[@iusescotchtape]

Same. I never read Persuasion so I wasn't attached to what the characters were supposed to be like. The movie was still hard to watch. I was thrown off as soon as the dialog started.

[@meameowmewmew]

My sister doesn't read or care about Austen novels and she watched this movie and hated it lol

[@sophielambie3036]

I was just constantly weirded out by the general 'lack of propriety' shown by everyone. Unchaperoned time alone constantly, talking so openly, the kissing in the street on both occasions, just everyone touching everyone all of the time.

[@maca76]

i read this as a person from the times watching improper behaviour and being horrified at unchaperoned time alone

[@mollympls]

persuasion is about what could have been for jane, in jane's life. she turned down a proposal when she was younger that she might have regretted later in life, and persuasion gives jane that second chance. it's my favorite book of hers, and there are two beautiful adaptations of it already - this one is an embarrassing joke. i was hoping for a second emma, not this.

[@wkejnwelfvnwklnv]

it's truly just terrible

[@songsayswhat]

Yes, the fact that I feel it reflects Austen's own "what if" thoughts makes the novel all the more interesting.

[@kmhkennedy]

It’s about persuasion! It’s in the title, JA wasn’t exactly subtle with her titles. Anne caves to peer pressure and regrets it. Then as an adult she doesn’t, and is better for it. Also about the pressures put on women, and the interesting point that wentworth might night have been as successful if he hadn’t been turned down by Anne. Great, nuanced story. Sometimes I wonder if wentworth isn’t more representative of JA. Not disagreeing with what you said though.

[@teleriferchnyfain]

The proposal she turned down is echoed in Mansfield Park, not here. THIS book deals with her summer romance with a young man who died, which of course explains the melancholy of the book.

[@MavenCree]

Amanda Root is my favourite Anne Elliot. (1995). You literally see her change, in posture, backbone, her air, everything about her grows as the story progresses and she gains her self confidence.

[@danielaf1487]

I agree, she was my favourite Anne and Hinds was my favourite Wentworth. Wonderful movie. I haven't seen the 2007 version, to be honest, but have seen snippets and I'm not sure Sally Hawkins convinces me as much in the role of Anne. But then, Dakota Johnson convinces me even less! So, Amanda Root all the way.

[@johnnyconnelly7278]

Sally Hawkins is very good as Anne

[@MrTwentington]

I think there’s such a weird habit when it comes to regency period (or let’s be more generous and just broadly say period piece) heroines to make them all some hybrid of Lizzie from pride and prejudice, Belle from beauty and the beast and Jo from a little women. They’ve got to be some ratio of beautiful in a not bombshell way often brunette who is hashtag not like other girls sometimes shrugging femininity massively. Buuuuuut the fact is not every heroine of that time was that. That character is great there’s a reason those works are popular but not every leading lady was this or needs to be this. Being a smart but stunning brunette who’s snarky or unconventional isn’t the alpha and omega of period defining femininity. I feel bad saying this because I honestly really like Dakota Johnson. I think she’s beautiful and likeable but I could have bought this character in a Bridget Jones diary type take on persuasion set in more modern (or he’ll even keep it period piece and set it in the 2000s Britain) I feel the modern twists could’ve worked better there. We could overlook the fact that she’s a hot 27 year old and that this is meant to be spinsterhood in those days and just see it as an adult woman who’s fed up with her love life and who drinks to cope let her be messy and unglamorous and fleabagesque. There’s a lot that could’ve been done to make it work. I don’t think colour coded needed to be done so distinctly for everyone but I think the idea for a darker hue that lightens over time to white would’ve been spot on for her.

[@Liskafm352]

Right? So unrelatable. We could have gotten a great modern adaptation with a 37 yo Anne in rural britain and got this soon to be forgotten nonsense

[@04nbod]

Jane Austen was a social realist. She sat on the outskirts of the society she wrote about looking in. Satirising their ridiculousness, their extravagances, their prejudices etc... Any sort of anachronism undermines that social realism and Jane as a commentator on a real time and place

[@learntospellpeople]

well said.

[@itsmj3103]

Definitely not a social realist. That would be a main trend in a much later period and not exactly an english phenomenon. The fact that she didn't *really* live on the outskirts of society would be the critique of a more passionate social realist, who would try to set social realism as a universal standart in art, but a more observant reader would probably manage to defend her worth exactly by saying that women were, in fact, at the outskirts of society, looking towards the inside, parodying those who reside there. If the social realist doesn't agree though... well... Austen no more.

[@04nbod]

@@itsmj3103 She did live on the outskirts of this society, She lived in as a spinster with other women supported by family on the brink of ruin. If she were fully outside that society she'd never be able to comment on it like she did. Social Realism isn't anti-society.

[@sailormoonwannabe]

This movie was SO BAD. I usually like the more modern takes on the Austen books, my favorite movies are P&P 2005 and Emma 2020. This movie wanted so hard to be like Emma 2020 & Bridgerton but failed in every way. It didn't have the music, the cinematography, or the script. I had to keep fast forwarding because I felt so much cringe with the 4th wall breaks. Something was just so off and shallow about it.

[@denisefreitas6727]

Very well said, Jessie.

[@wkejnwelfvnwklnv]

I know, right?!

[@avalangrin4904]

I HATE P&P 2005. I don’t like people changing classics. The dialogue in the P&P novel especially Liza Bennett dressing down her social betters was exquisite. It was unfortunately modernized in P&P 2005 to the point where Austen’s voice was compromised. I am a purist, and I feel novels like Jane Austen’s work are diminished when adaptations stray too far away from the author’s original work. As soon as I saw the trailer of Netflix’s Persuasion with Dakota Johnson I knew it would just piss me off. So I will not be watching this adaptation of one of my favorite author, Jane Austen’s book. 🤨🤨🤨🤨.

[@toric6005]

Man I wish I liked this better. I still don’t have a preferred Persuasion adaptation. Oh well, at least we still have the book. I did like what they did to the dad though. Totally captured the spirit of that character. Just like the dad from Emma 2020.

[@purcascade]

I prefer the 70s miniseries that no one ever talks about. Next would be 95, then 07.... and then whatever this dreck is. 🙄

[@tracys169]

I also enjoyed the sisters, aside from Walter Elliott. Too bad they didn't show more of the Crofts and Lady Russell. Otherwise, it was not something I enjoyed watching. I had to push forward a few times, then I fast forwarded 1/2 of the movie....

[@ruth.555]

@@purcascade Haha I actually really like the 70s miniseries too! I'd place the 95 at the top position, but I really like how the 70s basically takes us through the whole book and that Anne is this meek and sweet figure, but not completely doom and gloom (as I find the other two versions can be... although some people seem to prefer those interpretations of Anne). While I was watching the Netflix version, I kept thinking how I needed to give the 70s series a rewatch!

[@purcascade]

@@ruth.555 Yes! I'm disappointed the miniseries isn't on BritBox (anymore? I thought it was?) I rewatched 07 last night as a palate cleanser, but that just made me think that perhaps 22's creators watched that version and leaned into the elements there I don't like as much. 🤣

[@tinymxnticore]

Same, Persuasion is my favorite Austen novel tied with Northanger Abbey, and neither of those have a definitive adaption in my opinion. I’m bummed because that other Persuasion that was in the works sounded promising.

[@kathleencaitlyn]

I think that "I'm an empath" was one of the more clever modernised lines. It's essentially exactly what Mary says in the book. Like she couldn't possibly take care of her injured son because she just feels his pain way too deeply.

[@minimaker5600]

Mary didn't care that much for her son; she didn't want to miss the party.

[@littlemisspsych1218]

I agree. It’s the only modern line that actually reflects the character of the speaker. If you have to modernise the characters and dialogue (I don’t think they need to in anyway unless they were making a Bridget Jones style adaptation) then making Mary over dramatic and self obsessed is an acceptable step.

[@kait112]

I love the original 1995 version of this film. I felt like that film gives us a glimpse of what it might have been like to live with the conventions of the time, and just how harrowing it could have been. I'd say it's the Austen film that gives me the best feeling for what it would have been like to actually live at the time. I think it's Austen's most mature and well written work, and the 95 film actually does it justice. Amanda Root and Ciaran Hinds are not conventionally attractive, but they're well cast as people who might not be everybody's idea of perfection, but are each other's. Just watching the preview of this newer adaptation makes it clear the same care to detail and faithfulness for Jane Austen's original work were not taken.

[@benjamintillema3572]

16:05 Simple, there were anachronistic but symbolic pet bunnies in The Favourite, a subversive, dark, and playful period piece, so they figured they should include a pet bunny in their movie so that it could be subversive, dark, and playful as well. It's like including fourth wall breaks because they want to be like Fleabag: taking something but not understanding why it works so it just ends up as set dressing.

[@emersongrace4815]

EXACTLY. incorporating cinematic techniques that you appreciate in others is part of film making tradition, it's how the medium continues to move forward, but it ONLY works if the whole of your film is MORE than the sum of it's parts

[@Samionigaming]

Why do they keep making the female character spunky? Why does she have to be spunky??

[@lucyhannah1227]

i agree I'm getting pretty sick of it too. if they wanted a spunky heroine they couldve adapted literally anything else

[@raphaelledesma9393]

I agree it’s a matter of wrong story to adapt. Tbh, Anne isn’t that far from certain modern tropes: the shy girl who has been heartbroken in the past, an outwardly calm and collected heroine who nurses an inner brokenness, etc. Making her spunky made her into something unrecognizable. If Anne’s essence became a modern woman, she would not have been spunky I’m sure.

[@cyano741]

Because modern feminism has turned a woman and femininity into a caricature and costume to try on, by each and every individuals personal interpretation. Welcome to the woke age, where everything needs to be non offensive and inclusive, for the sake of not offending anyone. Women need to hold swords and be "warriors" to be strong, and spunky to be intelligent and ressilient. Because apparanrtly feminine atributes like patience and timid temperaments are seen as oppressive now lmaoooooo. This is the true misoginy, not the feminist kind, the real kind.

[@lucyhannah1227]

@@cyano741 the most recent female protagonist i can think of that was on the gentle/meek side and non-spunky was Ana de Armas's character in knives out. Proof that you can have a nice, timid character and still have a satisfying character arc.

[@Rachel-rs7jn]

@@lucyhannah1227 That's a great example! Now I really want to see this movie with that character.

[@neivilde.1242]

when my sister found out that henry goulding was in the movie but was not playing the love interest she was absolutely outraged. like are you kidding, you have him but you don't use him????

[@Raydog07]

He said he was offered both the role of the love interest and the antagonist, and wanted to switch up his roles for once. Since he's usually seen in the love/nice guy role. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@neivilde.1242]

@@Raydog07 fair haha

[@AndthenonedayIbecameanEXO-L]

That was me.

[@CitrineDream]

Exactly!

[@isabelleer7501]

Amen to all of it though I think I'm even a little harsher on the casting. The color blind casting honestly felt half-hearted because of the fact that the main characters are not people of color. If you're going to do it, do it! I also felt like the people making this movie did not like Jane Austen or the book. And if that's the case, why are we still making these movies? Why not actually pick stories that people of color can thrive in?

[@callmekhaleesi]

We dont have to be included in on most random movies ever. Thats such a pick me behavior. I have seen so much examples that they only put poc people because it was mandatory for them and had no meaning on the plotline.

[@maca76]

@@callmekhaleesi why white people was necesary for the plot of any movie theyre in? its just cause theyre the "basic"

[@paradisefound3536]

The 1995 adaption with Ciarán Hinds nailed it. It was written as such a beautifully subtle story. A story where the most impactful and affecting moments are playing out in the pregnant silence of the seemingly impassable gulf that now exists between to the two, once close loves.

[@Jen-lg4hp]

Your comment is beautifully poetic! "Seemingly impassable gulf"- sheer romance!!!

[@AishInTheHouse]

Its funny how films are now casting lead actors based on their actors real life persona, and amplify them to the nth degree. The whole thing is just nonsensical. Dakota is just playing herself here.

[@mariagraciacaceresmunoz6146]

THIS

[@shisah5544]

I feel this way about Thor now

[@brendacastillo8146]

That is Hollywood!

[@honeypeaches7736]

I mean Dakota is just a nepotism baby so 🤷‍♀️

[@hnh45467]

I don’t think this is a “now” thing. Studios have been casting based on persona since old hollywood (Marilyn Monroe, Audrey Heburn, Katherine Hepburn). Public image and perception has also had a place in casting. Social media and excess media (interviews) has just made personas more obvious and a big variety of media/production companies has allowed for more films to be made (hence a rise in “lesser” performances).

[@abigailtrumbo178]

The second I heard "we are worse than exes" I threw up a little and wrote it off.

[@ky4864]

Right?! Like they would ever say “exes” 🙄🙄🙄

[@kimberlymba9065]

My moment when I was just done was when they had Anne peeing in the woods while eavesdropping on Captain Wentworth… just no!

[@cat_96]

@@kimberlymba9065 I was done at when she said here's the playlist he made me...

[@kimberlymba9065]

@@cat_96 I know, why do they constantly feel the need to make historical characters into modern women. I’m sorry they are not going to write it better than the original that has been read and loved for over 200 years. And half the time they change it in a way that makes it where the story no longer makes any sense. That character was no longer Anne Elliot, she was not the woman that would have been pressured and influenced to give up her true love. I heard that this was the director’s favorite book!?!? How do you do that to your favorite book!!! That shocked me because frankly I thought they never even read the novel because everything about it was so very wrong.

[@ky4864]

@@kimberlymba9065 the thing that’s so I infuriating is that Austen has plenty of strong willed heroines. Can you imaging Liz Bennet or Elinor Dashwood EVER being talked out of marrying who they love? If they wanted to do a witty adaptation, they could have turned to literally any of Austen’s other works. But Anne is different. Anne is the one heroine who is feeling desperate and sorrowful and somber. They COMPLETELY butchered her and the story. For no reason!

[@pacrat190]

Ugh I hate the modern dialogue, it makes it feel tacky, I’m only 19 and I’d prefer something not fully modern but still not using slang Similar to pirates of the Caribbean, it’s got a bit of modern twang to it but it’s not over bearing

[@trinaq]

Agreed, the anachronistic dialogue was a little jarring, and overdone at times.

[@spokenme08]

This would be great. I’m reminded of classic Hollywood movies with some of the best adaptions and pre 20th century settings. This give and take over with some formality but not too old fashioned.

[@gdaym8y]

I'm 19 too and I prefer when they stick closely to the dialogue in the book (like BBC did with pride and prejudice 1995 or with Shakespeare plays) because I can catch the gist of things and it also helps me understand the book when I go back and read it, bc I've already watched it happen so it's easy to keep up. It's frustrating when they don't stick to the book because then not only does it feel less accurate, it also gives me the impression they don't think the audience is smart enough to catch all of Austen's subtleties. I want to go back in the past, not have the past brought to me and modernized.

[@pacrat190]

@@gdaym8y agreed, it also doesn’t help that most of the “modern” slang used is written by people who aren’t actually in tune with current slang lol

[@isapheonix]

Why didn't they just set it in modern day. Clearly they wanted to do that.

[@kitchenmom]

Anne is what this book/story is about. Her being broken at the start and finding herself is the story. She is a wallflower, somebody overlooked. It's about suffering for your choices, learning to understand that you yourself need to make sure that what you choose is good for you. They did take everything that makes this story amazing and destroyed it.

[@enceladus3318]

Essentially Austin is about the period, it's language, dress, social structure and moreys. Bridgerton is a fantasy and we shall just let it rest at that, lol!

[@denisha8596]

The Lizzie Bennet Diaries changed Mr Bingley into Mr Bing Lee and it worked seamlessly as they kept the fundamentals of the character intact. I think I'd rather rewatch that instead of something that keeps the costumes but throws the personalities out the window.

[@queenberuthiel5469]

I enjoy modern adaptations like that series. Real modern adaptations not modernized period adaptations.

[@miriam7211]

ok, everything you pointed out as wrong, spot on. they were in fact *so* wrong, at every possible turn, and referenced other material like 2020 Emma, 2005 P&P, 1995 P&P, Bridgerton, Fleabag, and The Favourite in a way that I was as delighted as I was horrified. I just did an analysis project on Persuasion in a college course this spring, and I've been watching the '95 P&P every year since I was a small child, so while I can acknowledge that this movie was absolutely an affront to god and jane austen alike, it almost felt like naive camp? There are shots and costumes that at points almost perfectly recreate Emma 2020's set (8:22, look at that shop) . This adaptation has none of the soul and ALL of the spectacle on such a massive scale,, like, WHY DOES SHE HAVE THAT RABBIT? why is there that one weirdly sensual scene of Anne stroking it and blowing out a candle?? Why is Anne's hair and wardrobe an amalgamation of modern beauty aesthetics with those stupid bangs while other people have the perfect regency curls and silhouettes? Why is Sir Elliot a knockoff copy of 2020 Mr. Woodhouse? Why is Anne an alcoholic?? Why does the actress who played Elizabeth's look spookily remind me of 1995 Jane Bennet if she were an awful person?? The music? bad bridgerton. the direct address? ridiculous. did I love it even as I cringed?? yes.

[@rochellerodriguez6431]

I would say it's kitsch not camp because it's clearly a cynical attempt to imitate and cash in on previous work. Camp goes big and this movie never really gives full ham. Kitsch tries to be subversive and fails while Camp is trying to make a masterwork but it's such a failure that the artists sincerity comes off as ridiculous.

[@morganmariex]

Even having not read Persuasion, I still found the movie awful and could tell it did not portray the original version correctly.

[@seBcopTer]

Me too. Turned it off.

[@bucca2]

Do you know how disappointed I was when I found out Henry Golding wasn't playing the main love interest??

[@EriksDesdemona]

I also think the quality in casting for the male love interests in Austen adaptions dropped in recent years. I mean, 1995 Wentworth was a HUNK of a man. I could totally understand why Anne was hung up on Ciaran Hinds. Now they look like random little boys. I saw this Wentworth for the first time in this video and wow I would have forgotten him before I've seen him. Again, such a downgrade from handsome, majestic and charming Ciaran. If i can't even root for the romance because the love interest doesn't offer neither charisma nor looks this adaption really fails at all fronts.

[@minimaker5600]

I think the phrase to describe him is "ruggedly handsome".

[@EriksDesdemona]

@@minimaker5600 Who? Ciaran Hinds or the guy from the new adaption?

[@minimaker5600]

@@EriksDesdemona Ciaran Hinds, definitely. The new guy looks like he's embarrassed to be there, and I don't see him taking charge as captain of a ship.

[@millieme6224]

From the moment I heard that they were adapting Persuasion to be a funny-fleabagesque-break-the-4th-wall kind of narrative, they lost me. Persuasion has been my favourite Austen book because of its sombre silent lamenting and rising tensions. The most infuriating part is that they couldn't have chosen a worse Austen to adapt in this style!! I'm crying at how good Northanger Abbey could have been instead.

[@evers33n]

YES! Both Northanger Abbey and Persuasion deserve a second chance at adaptations. I will say, I’m glad that Mansfield Park wasn’t chosen to be adapted. We already have a phenomenal adaptation of it (the 1999 film with Jonny Lee Miller and Frances O’Connor). Plus it’s my favorite Austen novel, so seeing them butcher such a realistic and charming portrayal of a coming-of-age love story would have disappointed me deeply.

[@songsayswhat]

They turned Anne into an amalgamation of Lizzy Bennet and Emma Woodhouse. The change of her character changed the story completely. I loved this book because it's all about regret, mistakes, and second chances. The Anne in this adaptation would never have been persuaded to turn down Wentworth in the first place.

[@DS_M]

I could tell from the trailer how bad it was and decided not to watch it. The Emma remake was done much better (acting and execution wise)

[@DS_M]

@@hi-ve1cw oh i know, i agree about the Emma adaption, I was comparing the parts that seemed immediately lacking in Persuasion when i saw the trailer. The dialogue also felt.... Stiff and obv modern Slang was thrown in

[@isobel9593]

I was expecting the worse after the trailer, but honestly really enjoyed it. Not at all like the book but overall a decent film. As long as you separate the two you might enjoy it

[@adelewyers4777]

Thoroughly enjoyed this analysis, but can't get on board with the idea that the 2005 Pride and Prejudice is now considered the best adaption of that novel. I am in a lot of Jane Austen groups where this is hotly debated, and while there a lot of varying opinions and plenty of people like both versions, few tend to claim that 2005 is superior overall, except for the cinematography, which is due to the Hollywood budget available there.

[@dheu]

Yes! I agree completely. I doubt "most people" consider it the superior adaptation at all. The cinematography for 2005 is pretty (although sometimes leaning into what I feel is more of a Gothic styling for dramatic effect), but that was the only superior aspect for me. Maybe I'm too much a purist, but that movie didn't feel like Pride and Prejudice to me. It was probably enjoyable enough to someone who isn't that excited about Regency culture and intricacies of dialogue, but when it comes to pure adaptation of the heart and soul of the novel, the 1995 BBC version will always be the superior adaptation for me.

[@madeniquevanwyk]

I think opinions will deviate from the 90s the more time passes and girls who didn't grow up with those movies/series step into fandom. I've no doubt the BBC series is excellent, but as a little girl in the 2000s, Colin Firth will always be a dad figure to me (Mamma Mia, the Kings Speech etc) and therefore I just cannot get behind him as Darcy. The idea feels wrong. No doubt since Matthew McFaddyen (idk if that's spelled right) also moved into dad roles, we'll need a new Darcy soon for the youngins, but I think context of the time and actors are often overlooked. Or at least not taken as much into account when considering the audience favourite.

[@lauras5359]

@@madeniquevanwyk I agree. For me I can’t get into seeing Colin Firth as a romantic interest as he’s more of a “dad” figure to me. I also find a series adaption of one book to be weird. However I admit I have never seen it so I probably should.

[@anix670]

The 1995 series version was brilliant because it gave us a believable Lizzie, with such charm - she doesn't need to be stunningly beautiful because she has that 'something else' that captures Mr. Darcy's fancy. I like the movie adaptation but like you, totally cannot get behind it being the best adaptation of P&P.😊

[@shirin9452]

Just hearing “he is a 10 and I never trust a 10” convinced me completely that this is garbage. I’m out

[@MissGraves6]

If they would have just done this in a modern setting with the Elliots being new york/rhode island new money going broke the millenial humor would have made sense. We would have another clueless and be done with it, instead they butchered one of Austen's more nuanced and sentimental books.

[@stuffwithsoph8264]

Funny how some of the best works can be made into trash, all off of failing to understand what it really is, Austen may be a romance writer but if anything she is an amazing critique of the world she lived in

[@wkejnwelfvnwklnv]

Trash is the perfect word for it😂😂

[@mmmk5385]

agreed, it shows a lack of respect for the original source material

[@Seri99no]

Yes, very much so and that is why this version is such a failure.

[@vaishalitripathi9938]

Its not for me. I felt that they had no chemistry. It lacked that intense sparks when the two leads merely touch hands. That's why I love period flims, it elevates these little things like looking a each other from across the room. You FEEL it. It's electric. Sorry for the rant but yeah I missed that the most.

[@itssarah3438]

Yes !! The kiss scene was so underwhelming

[@Ad_Astra2023]

This was THE worse Jane Austen adaptation ever. Period.

[@voluntaryismistheanswer]

I concur, and I have seen (and appreciated) some obscure and not very popular versions- Doran Godwin will always be Emma to me (many Janeites may not have seen it, but I'll bet you a monkey that Ang and Gwyneth have).

[@agnessofiacastrocarvalho774]

"If you have Henry Golding why would you not cast him as the male lead?" My question throughout the whole damn movie

[@atinyevil1383]

I’ve never read this novel, but from what I’m hearing, I’m thinking of ways this could have been better. If Anne is never treated like she matters by the people around her, I think it would have been a good move to have her in the backgrounds or extreme foreground (not even sure if that’s a thing) of a shot. The shot is centered and focused on her family and she feels more like a piece of furniture in the shots. Like she’s that one family member who doesn’t have good photos of them because no one cares enough to get their picture. And in shots with her and Wentworth, she’s centered because he treats her like she matters.

[@Ezra.mp3]

This is such a great idea 😍😍

[@floraposteschild4184]

I highly recommend the 1995 Persuasion (the one with Ciaran Hinds). The ending's a little rushed, but otherwise it's a wonderful telling. And you'll find the director used some of your suggestions. :)

[@mariem24601]

There is a literal shot in the 1995 Persuasion where the camera moves in a circle as Anne enters and continuously keeps her in the periphery of the shot so she’s always just at the edge and never centered in the frame.

[@atinyevil1383]

@@floraposteschild4184 I'll have to check that out, thank you 😊

[@atinyevil1383]

@@mariem24601 that sounds like some great camera work! I'll check it out!

[@jesusangelespinosasalgado9430]

I like Dakota but the worst thing is to know that the adaptation with glorious Sarah Snook was cancelled in order to make room for this... To imagine what that could've be...

[@erikdaniels0n]

THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN ADAPTATION WITH SARAH SNOOK??????? WHAT??? WE AERE ROBBED

[@cat_pb]

@@erikdaniels0n yes, I still so sad about it.

[@LadyAhro]

Joel Fry being cast as her Wentworth was such a good choice too! At least the Netflix version will be constantly haunted by the ghost of what never was. An endless "did you know they cancelled the GOOD version" until the end of its days. A punishment this film deserves tbh.

[@aeolia80]

they were gonna do an adaptation with Sarah Snook!!!!!!?????? Man, I loved her in Predestination, She would've made an awesome Anne

[@aeolia80]

@@LadyAhro JOE FRY WAS GONNA BE WENTWORTH!!!!????

[@lydiawalker0714]

If they were going to use modern language, they should have just set the movie in modern times. 🙄 If you want a good modernization of Persuasion, read Where The Rhythm Takes You by Sarah Dass. It perfectly plays up the angst and pining.

[@beckyhunkup8763]

Thanks for the tip! I will check out The Rhythm Takes You.🌵

[@biflower9247]

"you lie!" "I truth!" Nothing more needs to be said.

[@ChaoticComrade]

I totally agree with you about Henry Golding. He should have been Wentworth. He's so charming.

[@leopardsnlions]

Doesn't that support him not being Wentworth? Henry golding doesn't seem like the type to just quietly go off to sea for 8 years after rejection, nor not try to charm her upon his return. Despite the lack of chemistry, I actually felt the Wentworth actor played the pained character pretty well.

[@GiulianaBruna]

"we had to use urban lingo because teens are stupid. We HAD to write everything through memes"

[@pankreas2195]

When I saw the "He's a 10" quote in a screencap I thought it was satire. I can't believe it's actually in the movie wtf

[@thegratefulliving6073]

I know! When Anne said that, it made me wonder if it meant the same thing it means today or something else I was not aware of. A duh moment.

[@pseudonymous9153]

If I saw that in a screenshot I'd assume it was one of those fake quotes Tumblr posts

[@eiya3]

okay but Pride & Prejudice the BBC series is amazing and everyone should watch it, Jennifer Ehle's acting is so good, her sarcastic glances had me giggling so hard especially.

[@gisawslonim9716]

The BBC version of Pride and Prejudice is the best Jane Austen ever filmed. It is absolute perfection in every way and Jennifer Ehle is tremendous as the heroine. I watch is regularly about once a year since I first say it on the BBC.

[@adrianavargova]

YEP!

[@louiseerlacher5729]

True. P and P is also more comedic as a book too

[@desireepetitdemurat8660]

I agree with you, still the best one.

[@dheu]

Absolutely. This is the definitive version for me. You can really feel Elizabeth's humor and wit, Darcy's passion. I haven't seen another Austen adaptation that can top it. I get that sometimes things must be different between movie/show and book, they're different mediums after all, but I just wish all adaptations would treat their source material as lovingly as the BBC 1995 version of P&P was treated.

[@marblejernkerns]

I came here just to say yes, it is horrible. I watched it the other night and it was so awful. There was no chemistry, no emotion. I couldn't read any emotion from them.. I usually never leave such comments, but I truly thought it was a bad adaptation and casting.

[@lindakato8583]

I totally agree with your take on this interpretation. What also about historical accuracy to the time? I know this is an elephant in the room, but I also wondered about the presence of performers of color in several roles. I am a person of color and appreciate efforts to include us in acting roles. However, historically, (in contrast to the fictionalized Regency Era of Bridgerton), people of African or South Asian ancestry, no matter how wealthy, were not accepted in the upper reaches of English society. Exceptions might be members of foreign royalty or of the diplomatic corps of these nations. However, immigrants of color did not have entree to the social circles and gathering places of the gentry and aristocracy. Even white English merchants were regarded with disdain by the elites in this class conscious society. Furthermore, there were few servants of color either unless a gentry or military family might have brought them over from a foreign posting. I understand this is fiction. But if the interpretation of Austen is set in her time, I think it should be more representative of the socioeconomic realities of the period in addition to its language, culture and costuming. Again, I do not mean to offend. I am a person of color who rejoices in contemporary and belated efforts to engage more of us in film, TV, etc. roles. I also am a historian.

[@kimberlymba9065]

Here’s the thing, you can modernize a character without changing the core essence of the character. They made an Anne Elliot that was no longer Anne Elliot. By doing that everything else in the story doesn’t connect the way it did in the book. If you change the main character’s personality you change the story

[@AlexaDonne]

This is all of my thoughts and feelings about this movie precisely--right down to my not generally being rigid about adaptations. I love the 1999 Mansfield Park, and I one of my crowning achievements was reassuring Joe Wright that I adored his P&P and was a massive fan of the book--as you said, it was getting hate from purists and he was nervous about it (I was interviewing him for my college newspaper!). But this... it's like the entire team had no love, respect, or understanding for Persuasion. Yes, make interesting choices with it, but the CORE of it... you can't turn Anne into a different person with an entirely different arc! This movie had no thematic or character arcs, no heart. It's biggest crime, imo, is that it was terribly boring b/c it was so emotionally unengaging. The letter made me feel nothing, a literal crime. Only bright spot for me was Mary, who was delightfully ridiculous, as always.

[@gixmonster]

YES!! 100% agree. Especially the way you put it with "it's like the team had no love, respect, or understanding for Persuasion." (Btw, Joe Wright's P&P was my first encounter with Austen. And because I loved it, I got into reading all of her works - so I would say he did a good job, too:)

[@RumoHasIt]

Alexa! I was wondering what you would have thought of this movie lol. And I should have known, as you are the queen of Jane Austen YA adaptations. I agree, the "I am half agony half hope" line washed over me like a stale subway breeze, and I didnt feel like Anne earned Wentworths love in any way by the end of the story. Im not gonna be mad if we see a video about this adaptation on your channel :P

[@oakleyv4815]

I also think that Persuasion would be a great Austen novel to use for a modern adaptation. Especially with modern media wanting to cater to relatable themes with adults. A modern adaptation would be something for people to resonate with. We didn’t need to dumb it down for people to connect with the characters. The complex characters with emotions we can all relate to is what makes us like these books in the first place.

[@Bibirallie]

Breaking the 4th wall can be tastefully done. The 2007 version uses the same technique (in addition to using a diary), but in that version you feel close to Anne and understand her.

[@AllIsWellaus]

For me the 1995's Persuasion really captured the tortured angst that Anne goes through.

[@trianglemoebius]

Credit where it's die, watching this version really let me understand the tortured angst Anne goes through. Of course, none of it was on screen...