Is PHP a BAD programming language? 🤔👩‍💻

[@taujago]

Thanks to PHP. I have a good house, good life, nice income and I can work from home. Something that most Indonesian couldn't have

[@aruyne]

I know this man. Salam from Malaysia.

[@taujago]

@@aruyne so you know this video creator. Good for you. Salam dari Indonesia🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩

[@Patrick-hq9yp]

Can you tell me more about that? That's the case for my country too

[@asdfghyter]

@im dTap It is a poorly designed language in many ways, but that doesn't prevent it from being useful, especially since there is so much material available for it already. You just need to be aware of all the footguns so you can work around them. Learning php can certainly be a great career choice!

[@gregcarlson8438]

Me too. Thanks to php, I have a good income, a good house, and two apartment buildings.

[@Snailsxd]

"I wish they'd improve their home page" Well that's just their personal homepage

[@Postmodern368]

Nice one

[@kristiyanivanov7414]

nice

[@manisha2284]

Nice one

[@Divino_1]

Nice

[@narrativeless404]

Yea, they don't care about others It has all they want it to have The design shit is unnecessary

[@MerlinJuergens]

Conspiracy theory: PHP being hated so much is just a myth, put out there by PHP freelancers who want more clients to themselves, lol

[@alwinw64]

What's the difference between a php developer and a python developer? php developer's got a job

[@aamin89]

I started my carrier with php. And it enabled me to become a Fullstack developer

[@swamybittu9628]

Hello bro I got job for python but the thing is they gave php domain is php worth of learning for this yrr

[@coderswat]

​@@swamybittu9628 absolutely

[@anonuser6]

Exactly, I Love php8 😊

[@Be_Buddhaa]

Love php❤❤

[@islantay5795]

No matter what language you like, the language you can make money with is a good language

[@william254]

PHP was my first language to learn after the basics (html, css, js)

[@carolinadelvalle2316]

Finally, somebody said it! I have been programming in PHP for the past 8 years and I love it

[@nicolaaplin3459]

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[@nicolaaplin3459]

nahfaha⁰jad0ahan

[@mvnkycheez]

it's honestly a very fun language with extensive in-built functions and fantastic libraries

[@alastormoody7966]

To be fair, any programming language taken seriously by a determined disciplined mind can be extremely useful.

[@michaelsanchez1361]

PHP was the best because LAMP stack was way cheaper than MEAN stack in terms of cost to implement

[@dsuess]

+20 yrs into PHP, it is awesome for backend website development. It's quick to learn the basics

[@AdityaX2703]

Ironic how most of these programming languages websites look so underdeveloped

[@mvnkycheez]

they're just very old and the developers aren't interested in redoing them because of the age-old "if it ain't broke don't fix it"

[@kyo4156]

PHP pays the bills

[@rs4430]

nodeJS pays for supercars :)

[@Mumohan_]

​@@rs4430for the ceo who never typed a line of code for sure

[@The_fuck4u]

💀🗿​@@rs4430

[@m.moonsie]

@@rs4430 depends on where you're living currently. In my country, most projects are PHP-made lol

[@VishnuPriya2154]

​@@m.moonsie Which country you are

[@brookswashere3400]

PHP taught me all i knew about server side. It was fun to learn with and I still use some of its design principles for my razor pages development

[@gge6021]

i work with php and magento its fkn pain

[@winstonwolf2981]

it is usually enough to ask php haters how many projects they have written in php. On this, as a rule, the discussion about bad PHP ends.

[@bavidlynx3409]

Django all the way Cuz thats the only framework i know and i am scared of the learning curve that comes with learning new frameworks but i have started the odin project.

[@tsyf1]

TOP is incredibly good, whichever path you choose It'll be really good and detailed. Good luck!

[@kadensharpin2156]

Python bad

[@AK-po1eo]

@MrBusta Django is slow af

[@maruf7956]

Django is very heavy not recommended for small projects

[@raydragon799]

It has the best orm i have seen, compared to spring boot express and flask

[@jbarriossandrea]

When I was 13 years old I wanted to learn python, but their documentation suck, so PHP helped learning how to code, I didn't have access to internet at the time so everything I learned had to be offline

[@zhiarverse299]

I got used to php very fast and honestly it's fun to work with

[@j.r.r.tolkien8724]

Good question, great answer

[@CodingWithLewis]

Do you love or hate PHP?

[@gajendra721]

I love python, the syntax r kind of simple 😅

[@danielnielsen24]

Hate it, so many bad choices, like why a $ in front of variables for instance. Also classes are a mess

[@mohamedashif7487]

Love it. Using php since 2014.😊

[@bharathb4803]

Hate it

[@leroyjenkins1911]

Love it. Gets things done

[@sonychandel1878]

I started with PhP, It taught me many things outside of programming like SQL, Databases, Backend, Http and many other things, which could something like NextJS would just abstract away, but Now I use JavaScript not because it is better(If I had to use a better Language I would use something like Golang or Python). But because of all the free stuff available like Vercel functions, Firebase, Cloudflare etc. because for other languages I must use something like EC2 which can be hard to manage and expensive, or Beanstalk and App engine, which are very expensive

[@aldsdwin]

If your company or clients need a simple and low-volume web site/web app only, then the LAMP stack should get you up and running in no time

[@kunalkamthe6588]

Thanks bro, i never thought you would make video on this , love your content ❤️

[@CodingWithLewis]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@impolitedirector3595]

There are 2 types of programming languages, the ones people complain about and the ones no one uses

[@kristiyanivanov7414]

ohh

[@muhammadfarzat8869]

I use php like most of the time aaaand I can say that it's extremly powerful and you can do almost anything with it but you just need to get used to it aaaand get used to the headaches you get because of bugs that you have no idea where it's coming from

[@youmanyousef]

PHP suffers from the fact that it wasn’t meant to be a permanent solution or a commercial solution, it kinda just gradually morphed into it, and if PHP wanted to stay on top of the website market share it HAD to have more legacy support, it can’t change readily, ultimately creating the nightmare we know it as. Also, vanilla JavaScript is pretty much the same in that regard too!

[@la_dweng6407]

Well I'm just a beginner in web development in school they gave us html css Javascript php python and a bootstrap framework I'm not sure how that will turn out for me I just create my firs project only with html and css I was hoping to dominate in php 1day but huu fear fear

[@RedStone576]

i would use it if it has a better logo

[@ignskeletons]

It's so bad that the world's top websites and the entirety of WordPress run on PHP

[@abirpaul9027]

The thing is that you are not going to marry any language you just have to use it accordingly and serve your career and wishes

[@TheBlueFlaming0]

PHP is actually my first programming language which I learned first. So I don’t hate it😂

[@enkiimuto1041]

I was deadset to use Symfony, but after seeing how convoluted the MVC for it is, I'm going to learn Django instead... Wordpress was much less complicated, ironically enough.

[@hsfarazshahid]

Thanks to Php Laravel I could become a programmer

[@jl_117]

I hated PHP when I learned it in college but now im coming back to it with open arms since I am considering freelancing in Wordpress

[@flamehiro]

Better than js for backend anyday.

[@sunraiii]

based

[@pablitocodes]

they've since updated their pages :)

[@fluffybunny510]

Maximum companies started from Php because it was cheaper to host and low usage. PHP is the first job i got in a company.

[@Luisya14]

I guess I'm using it wrong but it is a pain sometimes for me, especially with Livewire :(

[@dhanyakumar8965]

I started my carrier as a photo editor for cms WordPress sites then I learned CodeIgnitor php framework and now I'm a fullstack developer with Angular, I love CodeIgnitor kind a mother too all framework for me

[@asdfghyter]

I feel like a lot of the "is X a good or bad language" discussion becomes very politicised. Every language is flawed, but some languages are more flawed than others. I wish we were able to talk about this without people taking it as a personal attack. Cobol programmers won't be offended if someone says Cobol is bad, they all know it is, but you can still be productive with it and there are a lot of banks where they still use it, so Cobol programmers are needed. PHP is bad, but there are a ton of useful tools written in it, which makes it very easy to get started on a web project. It is also makes it very easy to make a huge mess, but by then you've already invested too much time on the project, so rewriting it in a different language would be way too expensive, so now you're stuck 😔

[@gdrr3250]

I say make it more readable like I have no idea how it works if anyone in my website devlopers send me a code

[@DhruveelDave]

Laravel, WordPress, Magento powered by PHP are great tools to execute projects at rapid scale.

[@itskittyme]

I've been brought up in PHP. Been a PHP programmer half my career. But sometimes... it's just time to move on.

[@meowSing977]

When you see the syntax of implode from PHP 7 to PHP 8, you will know why people think PHP is a bad and terrible programming language

[@pablodelgado744]

I am currently learning php and I don't know if I hate it or if I love it :|

[@rafaelsfasie5347]

PHP is one of my favorite programing language, because you can create good web apps.

[@daffy1981]

PHP page is excellent. One of best documentations, I rarely needed to venture from the page to get all the references and sample code.

[@aldsdwin]

What I love about their documentation are the user-submitted notes on each topic. These notes contain more detailed examples, edge cases, gotchas, workarounds, and related notes. I don't know if other official docs do this too.

[@ResearcherplusEngineer]

As a full stack php developer I recommend you php as well because it is just like react and node together yoo php gang!

[@charlemagnejavinal2926]

I've learned node.js to be a full stack developer... But it's quite annoying that most web dev/design projects are PHP or Wordpress websites.

[@spicynoodle7419]

Laravel ftw. My department at work only uses Laravel and it's a joy to develop with it

[@spicynoodle7419]

@avfr it depends on the client requirements, most of the time it's a React or Vue SPA. One of the projects I'm maintaining is blade+jQuery. I've had one project with blade+Vue. For my Uni project I'm just using blade with vanilla JS and a custom reactive storage.

[@frz_akbar]

but still most job requirements at least have 1 year experience of Spring boot java

[@rosamelcachoful]

I like PHP because it launch my career as a dev but I also know that there are better and easy languages

[@kristiyanivanov7414]

After you started your career did you switch to another language, if so after how many years did that happen? I'm just starting out and it looks like my first fulltime job is going to be with php, haha.

[@rosamelcachoful]

@@kristiyanivanov7414 javascript of course because everyone is doing their business with that.

[@exxon47_]

Are you saying that the homepage of a framework called personal homepage is bad how am I expected to use something that isn't even its own name

[@MilMike]

debugging a nodejs application nowadays causes bigger PTSD than php.. php is easier to debug and more powerful than js (when used for backend), and it doesn't have to be compiled.

[@quadeemon3986]

I just like the recursive name

[@ThatJay283]

it'd be good if it had static types

[@dxgim]

It does

[@Rudxain]

I haven't coded in PHP, but from some code I saw it seems like a mix of shell + Javascript, 2 kinds of languages I'm familiar with, so maybe it wouldn't be so bad to try

[@aheendwhz1]

Over the years, PHP had been influenced by many languages. That's however one of the reasons why it feels a bit inconsistent sometimes (they could definitely improve here), but it also means that it's very flexible. In the beginning, it was mostly influenced by Shell and JavaScript. Later, it was influenced by Java and C# a lot. In the recent years, it got a lot of influence from TypeScript, Kotlin and thelike. After all, it is a very well maintained language, which takes some of the best things from other langagues, is very stable and has a healthy ecosystem. And while it's not perfect, it gets a lot of things better than other popular languages.

[@mhemaungthuwin7916]

PHP is not bad, but the worse is that got a job maintaining WordPress sites running with PHP version 5. Yes, that is me.

[@ojsojs6004]

PHP Ecosystem keeps getting better. Now NumPower is released. NumPower library was created to provide the foundation for efficient scientific computing in PHP, as well as leverage the machine learning tools and libraries that already exist and can benefit from it. This C extension developed for PHP can be used to considerably speed up mathematical operations on large datasets and facilitate the manipulation, creation and operation of N-dimensional tensors. The area of ​​image processing and computer vision will also be able to benefit from this library. Some features of NumPower are: * GPU and CPU compute support * Dozens of different operations for manipulation, arithmetic, linear algebra, statistics and etc. * Single precision float points (float32) for improved memory usage * Custom CUDA kernels for almost all operations * AVX2 support when available on hardware * Support for GD images in RGB format for easy image manipulation

[@jaymartinez311]

Just installing it is a mess. Love the language since php 8 but it still needs work.

[@AJ-sj3cj]

PHP is like steam engine in the electric car industry if you are willing to sacrifice your time in the hell of learning curve no one would go over your way but never expected it to perform as well as the most loved and performant language since as steam engine When you come to the heaterd it's not just the newbie programmers as you mentioned but in the late 20th c and beginning of 21th century there was little to no web server library, framework, module whatever you call it at the same time most of the web where evolving at that time for this reason developer have no choice but to use php but as the time goes by whole lot of developer varying from intermediate to advanced dev where a UwU to django and node.js and exhausted of maintaining their php programs after they based it with php Due to its poorly designed syntax and specific usage. Specially the 'specificity' makes it undesirable for most of applications nowadays b/c the program need to have language that are capable of performing different task I personally might not be enough to blame php but if you did som searchs the idea is readily reflected in the Stack overflow servey My last word would be php instead of growing itself its more likely to decorate its grave 🙃

[@khai96x]

"good" and "bad" have always been relative. Therefore, if one was to answer "is PHP bad?", but must first answer "how many things does PHP do better than in other languages?". If there is a language that can do everything better than PHP and more, then PHP no longer has a reason to exist.

[@ritikgohate4548]

Php was only reason to choose nodejs

[@ManjotSingh-sf2ri]

Bad != Useful

[@SGJ_Chill]

Can you make a app with HTML 5?

[@NaraSherko]

Why they name it php when it has dollar signs

[@TheGarageboyz]

Why Laravel ? What is the real advantage?

[@vrushalrt]

My company treat me like God for knowing several PHP Frameworks with ORM😎

[@mediafrenzy9966]

Yes Im going through trauma right now with my own website. PHP is trauma and Im traumatized.

[@sourdoughbread952]

"explode" bruh

[@Igotswitch3s]

Bro. Which programming language have you made. Let’s make a change and give others best interest. Php, etc most people know how to get through it.

[@tenj]

Honestly I never tried PHP and I never hate it, I learned that I don't judge anything I haven't tried, so it's probably a good language, it just needs a fresh start, futuristic homepage more advertising, new framework, being adopted from an open source facility, something like that ...

[@HOWTO-nd2di]

Books recommendations about PHP Language?

[@theshermantanker7043]

That's like asking if Java is the worst language because it's too object oriented, both languages are improving all the time and it's been a decade since the issues first faced by developers with them

[@ReneDaniel-pp7ib]

Php is great to learn fundamentals to build up on

[@Tirunelveli_foody]

What do you think about Salesforce CRM?

[@CodingWithLewis]

Never used it!

[@coder236]

I can imagine their website is designed simply because of accessibility perhaps? I could he very wrong and it's just someone threw it together and never updated it... But uk government website is designed in a very basic way to cater for all visual/sensory needs

[@ibuprofenPill]

PHP is here to stay. Been using it for 15 years. It’s easy to learn, cheap to deploy and well documented. It’s going nowhere.

[@schoolboy6706]

i don't care PHP is potato programming language ...Python' and Java my first love😍😍

[@mr2ti41]

It may not be bad, but the infrastructure/components required to make load times faster goes beyond a LAMP stack.

[@jyosongurung5583]

How about BS?

[@simpingsyndrome]

But should i come back into it,since i move on to JavaScript

[@sunraiii]

You'll need both if you do full stack, but for backend php is a lot more powerful imho with laravel

[@hakeem_waseem_sindhi]

Dear please tell about asp. Net please

[@benammiswift]

It was bad, it’s very much not anymore, they did a lot of work to improve things like speed and the standard library. It’s a brilliant language with so much QoL

[@wizarddon]

I own 2 houses thanks to PHP.. full time job and freelance work 😊

[@RadenVijaya]

PHP is okay, it's just the developers are not good enough with it

[@forprix]

I was expecting you to show us minuses and pluses. You said almost nothing about the language. I dont hate PHP, I hate my youtube shorts recomendations.

[@devoiddude]

No its not bad, its better than typeshit anyway.

[@matinlh644]

Is php popular in the US?

[@juliusfucik4011]

I always liked PHP. I found it easy to use, coming from C/C++.

[@ThatGuy68580]

Do you know C++ and C or just C++? Which should I learn between C or C++?

[@dxgim]

Yeah same here I understand php as just a preprocessor, it's literally in the name. So I approached learning it the same way you use C preprocessor. Php is basically it's a preprocessor language for web. I think most of the pain people get is from trying to use php outside of that context or without understanding what it's meant for. I may be wrong though.

[@tesstrader5908]

He's talking about PHP like it's a new language 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MariusSucevan]

There are no bad programming languages, are just bad programmers.😢

[@zxenon_]

Their homepage is 😂😂😂 And the docs 🤦

[@niagargoyle]

I liked PHP when I started programming because I could view sources on web pages and read the code to understand how the site worked. As I learned about web security, I started to see how dangerous that model was. I don’t know if that model ever changed; I haven’t kept up with PHP in about twelve years.

[@nintendero65]

PHP executes in the backend, there's no way to get the source code unless you found a server exploit which is very complicated in large websites as them have sophisticated security systems.

[@niagargoyle]

@@nintendero65 In 2005, just looking at the source of a web page would show PHP tags everywhere. It may not provide the entire preprocessor code, but it made me distrustful, especially if someone wanted to spoof form data.

[@nintendero65]

@@niagargoyle woah, websites were very exploitable back then

[@AnjolaAkinsoyinu]

@@niagargoyle Oh really? That would have sucked .. I'm currently learning php and it's not like that anymore

[@lawrencedoliveiro9104]

You are basically learning programming from people who haven’t a clue how to program. Welcome to PHP.

[@sadhappy8860]

Any language is OK, I can deal with that, it's just needlessly annoying!

[@chswin]

It is not great… just a lot of traps… not unworkable.

[@codefactory3190]

I try to avoid php as much as possible Ryn Node.ts(Nest and express) is dragging position with dotnet Then django

[@spicynoodle7419]

Laravel is better than Node. Node is one of the biggest mistakes in software

[@azr_sd]

I am currently using Laravel and it's a really mature framework. Everything just makes sense

[@haruhikoichijo4620]

Thanks

[@abdultheseekerofknowledge4453]

Why people use php when you can do much more with Javascript...

[@Alikhan-dd8tv]

In frontend yes. But for backend there r lot of things u could do easily in php than javascript especially in frameworks like laravel and codeigniter. U get everything prepared, u just have to write a little logic and thats it. While for someone whos a beginner it would be quite difficult to write backend in js.

[@andreslb151]

I like PHP. I hate Laravel.

[@CodingWithLewis]

Me too!

[@TioIrawan]

What’s the problem with laravel?

[@svensken393]

I like PHP. I love Laravel.

[@maruf7956]

wut lol

[@lawrencedoliveiro9104]

Laravel doesn’t do async, though. Without that, how do you manage WebSockets?