I graduated with 144K in student loan debt from a private DPT institution. Luckily, I was offered a really high paying job in an orthopedic setting as a new graduate making $124,000/yr. (I live in Los Angeles) In addition, the OP job, I worked part-time home health and made about ~$44K/yr. Needless to say, I was able to pay off all my student loans in 2 years all while having some money leftover to invest in the stock market. My scenario is a bit unique as the jobs lined up really well for me, however, I have seen other clinics offering six figure salaries to new grads. They're rare but they do exist! Hope this gives hope to some new grads.
@gooseunit59313 жыл бұрын
Well La also has a higher cost of living tho
@gooseunit59313 жыл бұрын
Maybe other new grads need to go to La since it pays more there
@andypollard27774 жыл бұрын
Tim after finishing semester one of my dpt program I’m glad I took your advice. Your videos are the reason why I I turned down a $110k tuition private program that I had loved on tour, to go to a ~$50k tuition state school. I’m hoping this will pay off in the end. Thank you for all the videos as they are a great help!
@PTProgress4 жыл бұрын
I hope every aspiring PT student reads your comment :) Great choice! When everyone else from that program has 150k in loans and you have 100k LESS, you’ll be glad you made the choice you did. That decision will give you so much more flexibility in the future financially. Great work 👍 Thanks for your comment too :) I love hearing from awesome people like you
@Dave-ew4jb4 жыл бұрын
Hello! question, what school did you attend? just curious
@BigWolsky3 жыл бұрын
This is the single best video about PT school EVER. I’ll explain my situation. Covid 19 ended a personal training career in a hospital based gym. I had to go back to school at now 30 years old to find another career. Applied to one in state school and one private school that had a later deadline. Only reason for only two schools is I applied so late. Got into the private, which is a number 1 ranked school with a 130k tuition cost. THIS IS NOT WORTH IT. No matter how much you think it is, it isn’t. I was lucky enough to be waitlisted foe the in state and got accepted only two weeks prior to class starting. My point is that I was absolutely preparing to wait another year and reapply to in state school if I had not gotten in. It didn’t matter that the school I was accepted early from was ranked #1. It mean nothing. Being an older applicant made me want to start even earlier but I plead with everyone on here to never ever ever accept to any PT school that is more than 100k. Wait. Wait. Wait. This video is gold. Thank you, Tim
@CarsWithFrank4 жыл бұрын
This is why I decided on going into PTA school as much as I would have rather gone to DPT school. However, I’m hoping more bridge programs become available 🤞🏼
@PTProgress4 жыл бұрын
You’ll make close to the same and have a fraction of the loans...not a bad position to be in!
@Lordpraisethe4 жыл бұрын
I really hope things change. Pt was my dream job. The only thing stopping me is the tuition. The income to debt ratio is too ridiculous. It makes me so sad.
@Corn224 жыл бұрын
PTProgress question...i have my bachelors in exercise science already...is it worth to just go to PT school in my state (45K)...its only one more year than PTA.
@claudiamedeiros13 жыл бұрын
@@Corn22 PTA school! It is a fraction of the cost of PT school and the entry-level salary difference is about $20k!
@Corn223 жыл бұрын
@@claudiamedeiros1 i actually got into my DPT program of choice so i will be going there haha! but i did debate pta for a while
@gerrykelly70774 жыл бұрын
This wasn't a big problem until they added a useless 3rd year!!
@nickgon7ng4 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what people need to hear! Honest and realistic lol really appreciate your videos man ✊🏽
@tylergonzalez94244 жыл бұрын
Your videos are extremely insightful! My issue with the application process was interviews and after watching your interview video religiously and practice, I had the chance to pick from multiple schools! Starting at UTMB at Galveston in Fall. Keep up the videos!
@PTProgress4 жыл бұрын
Tyler Gonzalez congratulations! Proud of you for putting the work in and getting into a state PT program! Thanks for your comment too; it means a lot to me.
@LycanXXV4 жыл бұрын
Gosh I wish information like this was available to me 4 years ago. Thank you for shedding light on these issues and providing great insight Tim! The newest generation of students considering PT school will benefit immensely.
@jaytmusic114 жыл бұрын
SUPER HELPFUL!!! Thank you Tim! I am a recent PTA grad & I’m considering bridge programs to DPT. Your insights definitely gave me a better idea about the true costs & loans about PT school.
@PTProgress3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Angelo-uo2gj4 жыл бұрын
Graduated with 120k two years ago. I’ll end up paying more with the interest accrual. Been working my ass off for 2 years and I’ll be debt free by next year hopefully.
@veticgods3 жыл бұрын
Good work man! That's the hussle!
@gooseunit59313 жыл бұрын
So basically it’s doable but u gotta be a grinder for three years lol
@sadsmile34 жыл бұрын
We also should mention that the debt is usually way higher than when they tell you. At midwestern university they say its 135k, but realistically, when I calculated the increased tuition every year, the interest that accumulates while in school, and a 5 year plan to pay it back, it ends up being a whopping $220k on private loans. Thats a mortgage without the house. Oh, this also does not include the cost of rent during clinical rotations in third year, which easily adds another $10k, before interest. Scary.
@jaharibell56893 жыл бұрын
highway robbery
@Ca_10214 жыл бұрын
Me: Add it on my tab 😂😂😂😂 JK but I start at Plymouth state in June. I’m glad it’s not tooooo expensive. Thanks for these videos I love them. This is such an important factor to a students decision.
@PTProgress4 жыл бұрын
Haha! Congrats! I hope you can keep the costs low! :)
@s9t.peppers4 жыл бұрын
is it accredited? I saw on their site that they are not accredited so make sure that you can actually take the NPTE after you graduate
@davidung90394 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the frank, truthful advice.
@jonathanalicea65264 жыл бұрын
You’re the real MVP. 🙌
@kevingomez50964 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! I am currently a pta and wanted to continue studying but I figured PT school is not for me for the same reason you pointed out.
@kristennicolosi4 жыл бұрын
great video for a future pt student!
@ProphetJpoz3 жыл бұрын
Great insight. This video may have worried me more than intended. I just was accepted into a DPT program that’s 120k 3 years. Starts in June. Although I feel lucky. I went back improved my grades and finally had a 3.02 GPA to apply. By the grace of god I was accepted (so relieved). However, someone in my spot I don’t feel that chancing another year is beneficial. It’s more likely I am denied especially with lower cost schools given they seem to be more competitive and higher applicants. Maybe I’m thinking at it the wrong way. DPT is the career I want for sure no chance against that. So I accepted without thinking of any of what you spoke about.
@PTProgress3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know what else to say.. I mean if you can afford the tuition and living expenses by writing a check, then great. But if you’re going to take out $150k+ in loans I just don’t know how else to tell you that it’s not a good idea. Kudos for getting into a program and for putting in the work to do so - I’m sure you worked really hard. But racking up $150k in debt is far from something to be relieved about. I’m sorry if I’m the only one to share this sentiment with you - I wish others would speak up about the insanity of PT school loans vs income. I’m sure it’s not what you want to hear, but that’s the truth.
@gooseunit59313 жыл бұрын
@@PTProgress if you’re a physical therapist already and you’re saying this then I believe it plus it makes sense it’s all in the numbers, I am still finishing my bachelors but I will listen to this advice I wanna get as much money as pt as possible without having so much debt that’s what it comes down to people don’t get it lol
@StefanieAnna3 жыл бұрын
And don’t forget that grad school loans have higher interest rates, so tack at least another 10-20k in interest by the time you graduate and start paying.
@aubreed31004 жыл бұрын
Before the pandemic influencing how course material is delivered in DPT programs, the cost of PT school was easier to justify. However, taking out 120-150K of student loans to do the majority of your DPT education online, is not worth it - in my opinion. I was enrolled in a DPT program that has been online since March, will continue to be mostly online through the remainder of the year, and tuition increased for the summer and fall semesters. I made the difficult decision to take a leave of absence 12 months into my DPT program. I couldn't justify paying a higher cost for an online education, especially when there is a chance we would have to graduate late and pay for the extra semesters, which for most students in my program would force them to take out 180-200K of student loans, just for PT school.
@PTProgress4 жыл бұрын
Hi Aubree - thanks for sharing and I'm sorry you had to make such a difficult decision like that. I'm sure you put a lot of thought into the decision and it sounds like a financially sound decision based on the projected debt. Obviously, if you had to take out loans for the first year, you'll have those to pay down. But I think it's manageable if you find ways to save some money over the next year (live with friends / parents / family?) and try to find an entry level job somewhere. You may even find work that you really enjoy that pays well but doesn't require $150k of debt. I hope you find some work that you enjoy during this year and feel free to reach out if you need anything. - Tim
@matthewbryk19673 жыл бұрын
Really needed to hear #2
@pumafcsoccertutorials51304 жыл бұрын
I want to become a PT, I’m playing soccer in college and I might be getting a full ride with my academic scholarships! I’m very thankful that my parents were going to pay for my college (mom dad stepdad) but I didn’t want them to worry about that. Who knows maybe they’ll help with PT school! Idk but still! I’m excited
@PTProgress4 жыл бұрын
That’s great! Good luck with your college career :)
@clintboonedpt3 жыл бұрын
I totally needed this video when I was a senior in undergrad. Totally guilty of #2
@Iceman-xe7jo3 жыл бұрын
PT has done a horrible job of laddering the degree. I’m a PTA and the only way I can become a PT is spend over 100k in education. At 42 yrs old and at where I am in my life this is not feasible and practical.
@skatergirl6764 Жыл бұрын
I'm currently in IT and make solidly over six figures. I don't like the work and I sit at home alone all day. I want to be a PT badly, but I don't think I can handle the debt at age 40 with a kid.
@narges81813 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video as I am struggling with career decisions coming close to being 30. I already have student loans from earning my bachelors degree in Kinesiology/Exercise Science back in Spring 19 after changing my major from Nursing. College was 8 years long. I have took a 2 year break and enjoying life without school. I finally was able to pay off my personal debt except student loans. I was hoping to get some advice. I am leaning towards earning a certification to be a clinical exercise physiologist through ACSM however becoming a PT was always a dream. If you were in my situation, what route would you take?
@TheRay12272 жыл бұрын
I’m in your situation, glad I ran across your comment. I currently work as a trainer and strength and conditioning coach. I was considering a PTA position. I didn’t want to go into PT because of the cost of tuition. I graduated with a kinesiology background too. There are many opportunities with that degree without having to do PT, now I also work as a pt aide part time, it’s a rewarding job, quite honestly you treat patients as much as pt assistants do, PTs does the evaluations and has the call to release patients. So if you are looking into the field of PT, this time may be difficult due to cost and time. ACSM exercise physiologist is underrated field, there are rumors too that you can land a job at an entry position where they train you on the go and they pay for your certification, as long as you have a bachelors degree in kinesiology you should be good. But I would search and get an entry level job that relates to that field first as my advice, you may not have to pay out of pocket. Just something to consider, best of luck! 😃
@Akash_singh104 жыл бұрын
Hey I am a Junior in high school. I was thinking of doing a 6 year PT program at Marquette university. Is it a good idea to do a program or fallow a different path
@PTProgress4 жыл бұрын
From the Marquette website: Physical therapy $46,690 (per year, including summer session). . . | 46,690 x 3 years is $140,000. PT students should not be taking out $140,000 in student loans. You can go to a state school and graduate with less than $60,000 in debt. I cannot recommend anyone spend that much to become a PT to earn 60-70k out of school. The math doesn't make sense.
@Akash_singh104 жыл бұрын
PTProgress okay thanks
@CatsInDungarees4 жыл бұрын
Hi I love your channel, with great info, but I was wondering as I'm in the UK, would doing an apprenticeship in PT be better? As I get experience, I live closer to home, and I get an income to cover the fees by doing the apprenticeship.
@amandagensiejewski83354 жыл бұрын
When it comes to public universities, is tuition for out-of-state students substantially greater than for in-staters? I would like to minimize my student debt by attending a public university; however, there is only one in-state public university where I live. Is it worth it to apply to public universities in other states? Thanks for the helpful videos!
@PTProgress4 жыл бұрын
Great question! Some states allow for reciprocity or neighboring state provisions. You may qualify for in state tuition if it’s a neighboring state and they allow that provision. Otherwise, most require you to be a resident for x months prior to enrolling in order to get in state tuition. But, some state schools have out of state tuition that is still lower than many private schools, so that’s worth considering too!
@Corn224 жыл бұрын
my state school is only 45K...hoping that’s worth it lol!
@trerossi5542 жыл бұрын
State schools in New York are just as expensive as the private ones. Actually some are more per credit hour than private schools I’m looking at. Am I missing something or are ny state schools just expensive?
@ravnitdeshpande3 жыл бұрын
Sir I am from India studying bachelor of physical therapy in 3 nd year . so for master of physical therapy which is the best universities in USA , what exam I have to give and what is the procedure for addmission and how can I get scholarship ??
@darthsaber88093 жыл бұрын
What’s the difference between expensive and cheap school is there any privileges in terms of jobs opportunities?
@Daniel2433204 жыл бұрын
Dont they forgive federal loans after paying 20 yrs ? Why not just be on home income payoff option ,which is the minimum payment . And after 20 yrs it will be forgiven . *but do have to pay taxes off the entire amount you are being forgiven !
@gooseunit59313 жыл бұрын
20 years is a long time lol
@tylerwright41104 жыл бұрын
Man, this bummed me out by how much loans im going to owe coming out of PT school.
@PTProgress4 жыл бұрын
Hey Tyler! Yeah, the loans suck. But stick around because I’ll be making more videos about financial strategies for PTs to pay down debt and build wealth. 👍
@tylerwright41104 жыл бұрын
PTProgress - Tim Fraticelli Luckily I live in Pa/Nj and the average salary is higher than the rest of the country. I shouldn’t have as much trouble paying down debt as most do but it’s almost impossible to find a school in the northeast for a reasonable price. 2 years in and it is starting to look real ominous.
@AceHardy4 жыл бұрын
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@Gymkage4 жыл бұрын
Hello, this loan situation has actually been scaring me. I’m currently a senior in undergrad applying to dpt school, Shenandoah offers a dual degree program which is about $120k in 3.5 years. Is it worth getting my dpt and masters in athletic training ?
@PTProgress4 жыл бұрын
Paying extra for a masters in athletic training isn’t something I’d personally pay for. Also, $120k in debt for a starting salary of $65k is A LOT! Why is it that PT schools suggest that it’s ok to take on $120k in debt and earn $65k while accountants or engineers for example wouldn’t take on $120k to earn $65k. It’s absurd. $120k in student loan debt should scare people.
@brendanmcdermott97293 жыл бұрын
If you want to get into sports medicine the dual degree is best. If you don’t. Then just go DPT. But for only one more semester of course ( summer ) for a Dual is great. I can’t speak higher for Shenandoah and there clinical sites as a dual major.
@MrCatfishhh4 жыл бұрын
How have you been dealing with your loans since you already are a working PT? Are you paying a lot higher than the minimum?
@PTProgress4 жыл бұрын
Right now we aren’t required to pay anything with loans placed on a suspension. But in order to pay them down quickly, we’re putting a lot of our extra income towards the loans.
@r.e.4640 Жыл бұрын
Its NOT WORTH IT!
@nishadalvi53253 жыл бұрын
Can someone give a summary of it for me??
@PTProgress3 жыл бұрын
Like a summary of the video?
@nishadalvi53253 жыл бұрын
@@PTProgress hey. I'm a undergraduate PT student from India and I really wanna persue my masters in the US. Is it really that hard to study PT with a student loan?
@brandonsmith40394 жыл бұрын
I’m currently doing my observation hours for PT school how many hours of observation do you recommend
@PTProgress4 жыл бұрын
200+ spend as much time as possible shadowing! Better to find out now if you want to commit 2080 hours a year working full time! Shadowing is a fraction of the time you’ll invest in school and worth doing at multiple clinics/settings.
@Akash_singh104 жыл бұрын
PTProgress when do you recommend to start shadowing
@jennifergarcia2804 жыл бұрын
Do you still think you chose the right career?
@PTProgress4 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Garcia. It’s actually my second career (I worked in finance for 5 years before going back to PT school) I think I chose a good career. PT is no doubt a good career, but starting your career with 100-150k in debt is not a good idea. If I could do it all over again, I would choose a less expensive school. If you can get into a state school and spend less than $60-70,000 on your education to become a PT, that’s the smart approach. In terms of PT being the RIGHT career, I’ve learned not to put that much pressure on a job or career. Too many students feel like they have to choose the RIGHT career. My advice is to shadow multiple people in different jobs to get a good idea if that career is worth pursuing. Good luck and thanks for your comment!
@jacobacevedo36884 жыл бұрын
How do I become an assistant pt
@satyasatya66943 жыл бұрын
There are no jobs for PTs
@esmamert39363 жыл бұрын
Can i ask you why you say this ? Because im pt. student.