Is Pokémon EXCITING Again? (Legends: Z-A Thoughts and Reaction)

[@holo525]

Behind every "it's so over" is the ever-distant hope of "we're so back"

[@madewithlove333]

Putting this on a quotes page

[@thearrivalcyberseignister8898]

Pmd fans: this wont stop me because i cant read

[@studiohillbily8940]

Lobotomy kaisen?

[@madnessarcade7447]

Hot take: the point of Pokémon is to appeal to the widest audience possible and that there’s something for everyone from mainline to the anime to the spin offs Well maybe if people got into the other avenues of the franchise rather than solely the games u wouldn’t be disappointed Since the series was designed to be symbiotic with itself and to experience every avenue together for a complete experience U guys need to reevaluate ur priorities Visuals,frame rate,art style are irrelevant People are too focused on superficial nonsense ​​⁠let’s be real u didn’t get into the original games for the graphics And If u didn’t play games for the graphics as a kid then why would u play them for the graphics now Sorry u forgot what the point of Pokémon was to begin with Pokémon is always meant to be an entry level jrpg maybe the people trying to hate on pokemon maybe they just aren’t into jrpgs If The lore was good The writing was good The music was good The vibes were good The messages were good The character designs were good That’s all you really need The series knows what it is and its niche(by niche I mean space) and what it wants to be and there’s nothing wrong with that and it doesn’t have to be anything else The mainstream audience doesn’t care about graphics or bugs or anything they just like to vibe People are just trying to make it something that is isn’t And something that doesn’t fit its style Maybe u don’t like Pokemon just aren’t into RPGs and that’s fine dont have to use that as an excuse to be toxic If its not ur thing just move on imo They’re gonna do their own thing and be their own thing in their own way Pokémon is always meant to be an entry level jrpg maybe the people trying to hate on pokemon maybe they just aren’t into jrpgs If The lore was good The writing was good The music was good The vibes were good The messages were good The character designs were good That’s all you really need The series knows what it is and its niche(by niche I mean space) and what it wants to be and there’s nothing wrong with that and it doesn’t have to be anything else The mainstream audience doesn’t care about graphics or bugs or anything they just like to vibe People are just trying to make it something that is isn’t And something that doesn’t fit its style Maybe u don’t like Pokemon just aren’t into RPGs and that’s fine dont have to use that as an excuse to be toxic If its not ur thing just move on imo They’re gonna do their own thing and be their own thing in their own way Calling pokemon “lazy” is lazy they got more to do than most devs they make two games and have to be symbiotic with the rest of the series and all this other stuff They can’t delay the game they have a symbiotic release system The games are leashed to the anime,tcg,etc and the anime,tcg etc is leashed to the games Tpc is constantly playing a game of jenga trying to balance each of its branches The games are in development for 3-6 years we just don’t feel it because a lot of times they work on multiple generations at the same time they have two teams the games have a 15-20 million dollar budget They probably share resources Maybe about the sharing idk They have been working on Gen 10 for a few years now Visuals,frame rate,art style are irrelevant People are too focused on superficial nonsense If The lore was good The writing was good The music was good The vibes were good The messages were good The character designs were good That’s all you really need Can’t believe people still care about that frame stuff I’m sorry people got so lost and brainwashed by the superficialities of the industry you forgot what Pokémon was originally about And I know that the game isn’t perfect and that there’s issues Pokémon is a franchise where the theme is friendship is magic and meeting cute and cool unique monsters What the hell does graphics and performance have to do with those things? Nothing if you wanna criticize a franchise criticize it on whether or not it delivered on the messages and themes it promised Was friendship magic? Did you meet cute and cool unique creatures? Ok then it’s a good game Those are what’s important to Pokémon As the og theme said Pokémon is about Oh your my best friend in a world we must defend I will travel across the land searching far and wide each pokemon to understand the power that’s inside Our hearts so true our courage will pull us through you teach me and I teach you” That’s what it is about and that’s what it will always be about and if that’s what it continues to be about until the end Then that’s a strong enough ending for me Not sure what graphics and animation and performance has to do with that Performance graphics those things never Mattered You have to remember pokemon games have only been 3D since 2013 that’s pretty recent compared to other games like Zelda that have been 3D since the 90s and early 2000s so obviously they’re gonna be behind Mixed with the fact that They can’t delay the game because main console for only 5 years compared to Zelda since n64 The franchise was designed so that every aspect of it has a symbiotic relationship The games can’t release without the anime the merch and the manga and the manga the merch and the anime can’t release without the games And it’s about time you all understand that by now They are doing their best trying to balance the games with the tcg and the anime The Pokémon franchise is like a game of jenga If you move one thing it all falls apart They are doing the best they can sorry I’m the only one who appreciates that Unless you want them to hypothetically release the Gen 10 anime and then wait till the anime gets to Gen 15 to release the Gen 10 games they are still learning as they go so y’all gotta be patient and give them time to catch up Their partnership with take two they’ll apply what they learn back into Pokémon so that’s good You have to remember gamefreak are inexperienced with developing open world games so of course there will be some trial and error the more they work on and improve the game and do future games the better at it they’ll get Rome wasn’t built in a day we need to be patient Assuming we get more open world games NOT TO MENTION ScarVi’s development was probably screwed up by the pandemic Probably turned it upside down And before u say just delay the game They can’t delay the game The franchise was designed so that every aspect of it has a symbiotic relationship The games can’t release without the anime the merch and the manga and the manga the merch and the anime can’t release without the games And it’s about time you all understand that by now They are doing their best trying to balance the games with the tcg and the anime The Pokémon franchise is like a game of jenga If you move one thing it all falls apart They are doing the best they can sorry I’m the only one who appreciates that Unless you want them to hypothetically release the Gen 10 anime and then wait till the anime gets to Gen 15 to release the Gen 10 games ​​⁠it’s not outdated it’s rebellious and nonconformist They choose to live in their own bubble and be one of a kind and not imitate what everyone else does and they have my respect for that

[@madnessarcade7447]

It’s never been over Hot take: the point of Pokémon is to appeal to the widest audience possible and that there’s something for everyone from mainline to the anime to the spin offs Well maybe if people got into the other avenues of the franchise rather than solely the games u wouldn’t be disappointed Since the series was designed to be symbiotic with itself and to experience every avenue together for a complete experience U guys need to reevaluate ur priorities Visuals,frame rate,art style are irrelevant People are too focused on superficial nonsense ​​⁠let’s be real u didn’t get into the original games for the graphics And If u didn’t play games for the graphics as a kid then why would u play them for the graphics now Sorry u forgot what the point of Pokémon was to begin with Pokémon is always meant to be an entry level jrpg maybe the people trying to hate on pokemon maybe they just aren’t into jrpgs If The lore was good The writing was good The music was good The vibes were good The messages were good The character designs were good That’s all you really need The series knows what it is and its niche(by niche I mean space) and what it wants to be and there’s nothing wrong with that and it doesn’t have to be anything else The mainstream audience doesn’t care about graphics or bugs or anything they just like to vibe People are just trying to make it something that is isn’t And something that doesn’t fit its style Maybe u don’t like Pokemon just aren’t into RPGs and that’s fine dont have to use that as an excuse to be toxic If its not ur thing just move on imo They’re gonna do their own thing and be their own thing in their own way Pokémon is always meant to be an entry level jrpg maybe the people trying to hate on pokemon maybe they just aren’t into jrpgs If The lore was good The writing was good The music was good The vibes were good The messages were good The character designs were good That’s all you really need The series knows what it is and its niche(by niche I mean space) and what it wants to be and there’s nothing wrong with that and it doesn’t have to be anything else The mainstream audience doesn’t care about graphics or bugs or anything they just like to vibe People are just trying to make it something that is isn’t And something that doesn’t fit its style Maybe u don’t like Pokemon just aren’t into RPGs and that’s fine dont have to use that as an excuse to be toxic If its not ur thing just move on imo They’re gonna do their own thing and be their own thing in their own way Calling pokemon “lazy” is lazy they got more to do than most devs they make two games and have to be symbiotic with the rest of the series and all this other stuff They can’t delay the game they have a symbiotic release system The games are leashed to the anime,tcg,etc and the anime,tcg etc is leashed to the games Tpc is constantly playing a game of jenga trying to balance each of its branches The games are in development for 3-6 years we just don’t feel it because a lot of times they work on multiple generations at the same time they have two teams the games have a 15-20 million dollar budget They probably share resources Maybe about the sharing idk They have been working on Gen 10 for a few years now Visuals,frame rate,art style are irrelevant People are too focused on superficial nonsense If The lore was good The writing was good The music was good The vibes were good The messages were good The character designs were good That’s all you really need Can’t believe people still care about that frame stuff I’m sorry people got so lost and brainwashed by the superficialities of the industry you forgot what Pokémon was originally about And I know that the game isn’t perfect and that there’s issues Pokémon is a franchise where the theme is friendship is magic and meeting cute and cool unique monsters What the hell does graphics and performance have to do with those things? Nothing if you wanna criticize a franchise criticize it on whether or not it delivered on the messages and themes it promised Was friendship magic? Did you meet cute and cool unique creatures? Ok then it’s a good game Those are what’s important to Pokémon As the og theme said Pokémon is about Oh your my best friend in a world we must defend I will travel across the land searching far and wide each pokemon to understand the power that’s inside Our hearts so true our courage will pull us through you teach me and I teach you” That’s what it is about and that’s what it will always be about and if that’s what it continues to be about until the end Then that’s a strong enough ending for me Not sure what graphics and animation and performance has to do with that Performance graphics those things never Mattered You have to remember pokemon games have only been 3D since 2013 that’s pretty recent compared to other games like Zelda that have been 3D since the 90s and early 2000s so obviously they’re gonna be behind Mixed with the fact that They can’t delay the game because main console for only 5 years compared to Zelda since n64 The franchise was designed so that every aspect of it has a symbiotic relationship The games can’t release without the anime the merch and the manga and the manga the merch and the anime can’t release without the games And it’s about time you all understand that by now They are doing their best trying to balance the games with the tcg and the anime The Pokémon franchise is like a game of jenga If you move one thing it all falls apart They are doing the best they can sorry I’m the only one who appreciates that Unless you want them to hypothetically release the Gen 10 anime and then wait till the anime gets to Gen 15 to release the Gen 10 games they are still learning as they go so y’all gotta be patient and give them time to catch up Their partnership with take two they’ll apply what they learn back into Pokémon so that’s good You have to remember gamefreak are inexperienced with developing open world games so of course there will be some trial and error the more they work on and improve the game and do future games the better at it they’ll get Rome wasn’t built in a day we need to be patient Assuming we get more open world games NOT TO MENTION ScarVi’s development was probably screwed up by the pandemic Probably turned it upside down And before u say just delay the game They can’t delay the game The franchise was designed so that every aspect of it has a symbiotic relationship The games can’t release without the anime the merch and the manga and the manga the merch and the anime can’t release without the games And it’s about time you all understand that by now They are doing their best trying to balance the games with the tcg and the anime The Pokémon franchise is like a game of jenga If you move one thing it all falls apart They are doing the best they can sorry I’m the only one who appreciates that Unless you want them to hypothetically release the Gen 10 anime and then wait till the anime gets to Gen 15 to release the Gen 10 games ​​⁠it’s not outdated it’s rebellious and nonconformist They choose to live in their own bubble and be one of a kind and not imitate what everyone else does and they have my respect for that

[@thebestworst8002]

I love how all are reactions are now “This looks great. I wonder how they’re going to screw everything up”

[@number3766]

Gamefreak: Great games made rushed and made poorly.

[@simonw.1223]

well I remember the two wolves for sword qnd shield and also S V with really pretty trailers for the legendaries and than we see what really happens.

[@simonw.1223]

@@number3766and unoptimized. Zelda we extra delayed it so you wont easily stumble on glitches.

[@diostaku2]

This is Pokemon, they always ruin it in one way or another, not that it affects their sales of course, but it's still crap.

[@megamegaO]

@@number3766 If they're rushed and made poorly, they aren't great games.

[@AaronAstro]

love how any time they announce new games we take it as a threat

[@cellP8]

Hahahahahaha lmfao 🤣🤣🤣

[@dxubty]

We smoking that Pokemon Legends ZAZA 🍃🥦🚬

[@saucymongoose7246]

YES SIR!!!

[@geraldthegoose1685]

Husian Typhlosion was smoking that legends ZA pack

[@SavNJ]

@@geraldthegoose1685this was the real leak all along

[@WiiFan-1300]

Lmao

[@RJ-mi3ck]

We smoking that nefarious lung-slaughtering mega evolved kalosian moongrass

[@arthurmallmann5768]

As a gen 5 fan I'm happy my prayers have been answered and we're not getting a gen 5 remake right now. I'm also glad we're finally getting pokémon Z somehow

[@varshard0]

Is it Z or ZA?

[@JosukeUrameshi]

as a gen 6 fan, i was hoping they would leave kalos alone and do a gen 5 remake. i didn't play gen 5

[@edkst98]

remember pokemon remakes are actually great until BDSP, didn't bother to play legend: arceus as well. As a gen 4 fans I am losing faith on every gamefreak decisions, it just feels like gamefreak will screw things up inevitably

[@MarvinPowell1]

Sinnoh is one of my least favorite regions (only third worst behind Kalos and Galar) and even I was pissed off at how DIRTY they did Sinnoh fans with those abominations for "remakes" (and no, Legends Arceus doesn't "make up for it," cause like all the other Switch titles, that game actually sucks.) Having two half-assed games doesn't beat having one really great game, and I wouldn't even call BDSP good enough to be "half-assed." So yeah, seeing them skip Unova entirely seems like the best thing, cause you know they'd f**k it up.

[@MarvinPowell1]

@edkst98 I strongly disagree. The only good remakes they've ever done was HGSS and even those were plagued with issues and things they never bothered to fix (while adding new problems, like no Game Corner and a broken PC System.) Most of the mainline games were good up until X & Y, but the only good remakes were HGSS, despite Pokemon fans liking a lot of trash like ORAS, Gen 8, LGP&E, etc.

[@jaernihiltheus7817]

Two thoughts: 1. Lumiose is based on paris, and the renovation of paris happened within a similar time-frame as the meiji reconstruction (when legends arceus takes place). 2. If this is a dual switch & switch 2 release, the title could be reflective of that: Pokemon legends Z (the end of the alphabet & the end of switch pokemon titles) Pokemon legends A (the beginning of the alphabet & the beginning of switch 2 pokemon titles). This is in addition to the zygarde & AZ stuff that's obvious.

[@SogonD.Zunatsu]

Yes. People are getting ahead of themselves when they think it's going to take place in the future. The "redevelopment plans" are to make Lumiose as it is in X and Y.

[@jaernihiltheus7817]

@@SogonD.Zunatsu don't get me wrong, it still COULD be a past & future game to tie more directly into scarlet & violet's themes, but basically everything we've seen *so far* indicates that it's a past game specifically. Even the tron-like trailer could just be a stylized version of city blueprints.

[@SogonD.Zunatsu]

@@jaernihiltheus7817 There might time shenanigans, but it will be between the past and the present, not the future.

[@tiger2498]

The real question is, will FLYGON get a Mega?

[@BunchaNothin]

Gamefreak needs to be disappointing, so theres no way they would. Or if they do the design is going to suck.

[@CreativitySkys]

​@@BunchaNothin Nothing can be worse then mega garchomp

[@kleefirestar]

No but charizard will get a Z and A mega

[@Arko777777]

@@kleefirestar Mewtwo will also get Z and A mega because why not...

[@MusicComet]

They have to at the very least give the megas to the Kalos starters.

[@usoppfangirl8153]

I would like everyone here to know that on the Japanese website for the game's announcement, the mention of the game being **only** Lumiose city is not set in stone. I've been studying japanese for a few years, so the description is lit. "The setting of this story is Lumiose, where this new adventure begins." The use of the word begins could imply its not **just** Lumiose, but we will have to wait and see. If it is in fact only Lumiose, I'm a bit worried about how we're even going to catch pokemon in the first place. I'm thinking that the trailer is just providing a concept for the game, and we'll see Lumiose develop to have habitats for pokemon to live in, where we can catch them. The map provided at the end seems to show open areas, but we will have to wait to see what the actual gameplay will be like. I have my hopes up as a kalos baby, but knowing GF's track record I'm ready to face disappointment as usual

[@kephalai]

lumiose city hub world, each gate is a portal to an instance to catch pokemon in a random field/cave. more DLC adding more gates to different instances. YOU'RE LIVIN IN A DREAM WORLD :D

[@varshard0]

​@@kephalaiIt is an urban pokemon shooter CoD style to respond to PalWorld lol.

[@shatteredsentient5321]

I wouldn't mind one city if they make it like one giant map like Cyberpunk 2077.

[@TheMongral]

To put it simply, It’s a functional impossibility that the game will *only* be in the city. First: We don’t know how big “Old Lumiose” is. Second, and more importantly: There are Four Critical areas that are Mandatory for any redevelopment of the city to be possible and successful, which are all outside the “established” bounds of the city in the four cardinal directions. West: Royalty. In the era it’s likely set in, permission from royals would be required to anything that may impact their property. The owner of the mansion is of higher class than the locals, and so it stands to reason that his ancestors would be more stereotypically “Royal” and need sufficient convincing that the redevelopment is in their best interests. South: A massive war memorial. Adequate care and consulting would be needed to avoid building over the graves of the fallen without causing controversy or triggering massive public outcry. East: The Power Plant. Perhaps the single most important location to visit because it’s absolutely vital that the Plant is capable of sufficiently powering all electrical devices of any kind in the revamped Lumiose City, lest the city be plagued by frequent blackouts. North: The Regions Pokeball factory. Critical to ensuring various Pokemon-related enterprises are even possible. Catching, training, heck the whole idea of Furfrou styling relies on a reliable supply of Pokemon related items, including Pokeballs. Without all four of these, the city would fail to be allowed to be redeveloped legally, enrage the common people by trivializing the deaths of those who died in a war, would constantly have power struggles, if they could power the city at all, and would lack the necessary tools to create Pokemon-oriented enterprises.

[@kevinyero7232]

Lumiose has several gates leading to areas, they will probably use that to catch Pokemon. But I think they may include other cities for their importance to the story. That city with the big Pink Crystal may be in the game for plot reasons. But who knows, maybe it’s just Lumiose

[@paragonNH]

I'm cautiously optimistic since at least this game is coming out next year rather than this year. InB4 it comes out in January like PLA.

[@bandicootsauce4569]

I used to be cautiously optimistic like you, but then I took a BDSP to the knee.

[@BunchaNothin]

I don't see any reason to be optimistic. I'm willing to wait to see if they change their approach to game design, but there is zero reason to presume that will be the case.

[@georgeramirez-u5s]

It’ll definitely come out in January not holiday 2025, they need a big announcement for Pokémon day in February and it’s time for gen 10 in 2025

[@BunchaNothin]

@@Infernal_Crusader I agree, PLA was incomplete. I hate to be pessimistic, but gamefreak will have to break their streak of poor development if this new game will be any better

[@joa6336]

​@@georgeramirez-u5sWhen Legends Arceus was announced, we had real gameplay and they clearly said at the end "early 2022". This time we don't have a single ingame image and they only said "2025". If you think it's coming out in early 2025 you are quite wrong.

[@sampicano]

- Galar is based on Great Britain (England, Wales) - Crown Tundra is based on Scotland - Isle of Armor is based on Isle of Man - Paldea is based on the Iberian peninsula (Spain, Portugal, Andorra) - Kalos is based on France Those countries are all connected (including the Channel Tunnel). I would pay $200 for a Pokemon game that combined the Galar, Paldea, and Kalos regions into ONE open world game. That might be my dream game.

[@ipa_games_official]

they can't make the Iberian peninsula run smoothly, how do you expect 5 of them? ))

[@user_0299]

​@@ipa_games_officialikr lmfao

[@sampicano]

@@ipa_games_official lmfao...janky af

[@TankEngine75]

Northern France to be specific We now need a small region based off Southern France and the set will be complete

[@metro9640]

​@@TankEngine75Italy region with a Switzerland and southern France dlc :0

[@squidwardtentacles8235]

Ohmori said on his twitter that this will be "A new challenge for Game Freak development!" Make of that what you will.

[@megamegaO]

"Gen 5 is perfect...how can we ruin this gen?"

[@zjzr08]

Do they even know the feedback that maybe they're being too ambitious for the self-imposed limitations they have?

[@shatteredsentient5321]

Maybe it's real-time combat

[@GameFreakSucks]

Why even listen to Ohmori? Swsh was awful They ruined the gen 4 remakes SV was a broken disaster They released overpriced paid dlc for 2 incomplete games that fixed nothing So why is all of a sudden, everything’s forgiven

[@joshuakolton9955]

Man idk how I feel about this: on one hand, I'm glad that Kalos is getting some love but I'm afraid that this game is going to be rushed like the last few releases. Apparently I'm an idiot for wanting them to focus on quality and take some more time to develop.

[@megamegaO]

You're not an idiot, you just appreciate your hard earned money, and its value.

[@royalgelly8948]

Game isnt gonna be rushed. They pushed release back to 2025.

[@sacrefice_8753]

@@royalgelly8948 Did they push it back to 2025 or did they just do it because the Switch 2's release got delayed to 2025 and they wanted to keep it as a release title ?

[@c0mpu73rguy]

@@royalgelly8948 2023-2025 means this game will be developped in 2 years (team B, the one that made the ScarVio DLC is working on that game), even less than the usual 3 years cycle. It's gonna suck. I'm more optimistic about gen 10 which should have been in development by Team A since 2022. Should it release at the end of 2026, that would mean a 4 year development time which is... Just one more than ScarVio and SwSh so let's be optimistic, but cautiously optimistic.

[@wull4802]

I didn't expect this at all. I'm happy kalos is been given some much needed attention. I know that there was a lot of people thinking that gen 5 was getting a remake but I just didn't see it. I remember back in gen 7 when people were thinking we were getting gen 4 remakes (though maybe not to the same extent). Excluding the gen 1 remakes they don't usually do remakes in back to back gens. Gen 2 remakes in gen 4, gen 3 remakes in gen 6 and gen 4 remakes in gen 8. Since it looks like they're going to continue with this pattern gen 5 remakes might come in gen 10.

[@BansheeNT-D]

I am happy no Gen 5 remake. We all know how this will end in the current state of Game Freak.

[@BunchaNothin]

There could still be a Gen 5 remake in the works, its just that Gen 6 is the next Legends game. I wouldnt be surprised if theyre letting another studio make the gen 5 remake just like they did Gen 4.

[@Alessia0217]

I agree with you

[@extremmefan7305]

@@BunchaNothin Or they're just alternating. I wouldn't be surprised if the team behind this game is gonna be working on the BW remakes once they're done here and the "main" team finished with gen 10 and moved on to a next project (possible gen 11). Personally I'd rather just have one team and wait longer for games if it means higher quality experiences though.

[@megamegaO]

@@BunchaNothin Is it tho? I thought the legends games were just spin-offs, not actually part of the main-line...

[@diostaku2]

I'm also happy to see that they didn't massacre Unova... yet, but unfortunately we know it will happen eventually.

[@SaddieMoon]

1:22 As someone who never played Gen 6, I never knew Bonnie was a game character. I always thought she was an Anime exclusive.

[@kephalai]

Bonnie from one piece

[@exaltedfalcheon1793]

Wrong Bonnie ​@@kephalai

[@shatteredsentient5321]

I played Y a couple of years ago. I didn't even notice her 😂

[@shironalice]

another peak gireum upload as always -the french

[@Sobble_99]

I think it's better to lower expectations right now.

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

I guess XY won't get a remake. I guess it's for the best anyway as they likely would have gone with the way BDSP instead of ORAS.

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

Same with Generation 5 Black and White.

[@BunchaNothin]

It's still possible they could have a gen 5 remake in the works. Their teams for legends is different than the mainline games, and they used an outside developer for BDSP. So they could get another company to do the Gen 5 remakes the same way.

[@jaretco6423]

​@@BunchaNothinMaybe not for Gen. 5 remake. But more likely an an Legend Kyurem game once after this game is done.

[@jakethedragonymaster1235]

XY will get a remake in a few years: when we get to the games that were on the Nintendo 3DS, it'll be easier to port assets over as scaffolding

[@c0mpu73rguy]

@@jakethedragonymaster1235 Why remake it? This game is already in 3d. Just port it and be done with it. The gen 6 fans won't care anyway since their standards are already low enough to defend the original games.

[@mesadrums375]

It makes the most sense and Gen 6 deserves the biggest glow up, plus its lore based in ancient history works well for a Legends game

[@c0mpu73rguy]

With only 3 legendaries (one really since Xernas and Yveltal are supposed to come from another far away region)? This is gonna be fun to watch GF try do make a Legends game out of that.

[@TrvisXXIII]

Forget Pokémon needing a break, I NEED a break so I can actually like the franchise again. Let’s see how I feel next year. I got a year’s worth of games to hold me over until then.

[@bandicootsauce4569]

Unlike all the idiots on social media who are currently creaming their pants over the mere announcement, I'm going to wait until we see GAMEPLAY of Legends: ZA before I start getting anything close to 'excited' for it. Also, I swear to God (Arceus?) that if the eventual gameplay reveal looks like a glorified beta build and all the online white knights cling to the 'Game Footage Not Final' tag at the bottom of the screen as an excuse to defend the game, only for the final product to show that the early footage was INDEED final, I'm going to have an aneurism.

[@WhiskeredNightfall]

Same. I’m reserving further criticism on the game until actual gameplay is shown. It being advertised being *entirely* in the city makes me worried we’ll get another half baked product though, but color me surprised in the future 🤷‍♀️

[@usoppfangirl8153]

I get excited then wait for the trailers to actual drop before deciding whether or not ill purchase ANY game. thats how Ive always handled pokemon games.

[@joshuakolton9955]

Same. I made a single comment about how GF/Pokémon Company's track record hasn't been the greatest the last few years and I'd like more dev time but apparently I'm an idiot and I just need to take what they give me.

[@gozogo1233]

If it showed gameplay, it would be compared to Palworld immediately

[@WowitsPIKOO]

Geez, God forbid they get excited about a game they grew up with and still enjoy till this day

[@Amon_Gus799]

I’m cautiously optimistic since it was announced for next year and the fact that they didn’t show gameplay could be a good sign? And I’m pretty sure it’s pronounced Z trough A

[@p4rm3s34n]

Pokemon fans who somehow think we aren't getting gen 5 remakes are both impatient and the most brain rotted people in existence. The every remake aside from FRLG has come on an even numbered generation. The remakes ARE NOT EVERY GENERATION. It was never gonna be gen 9. You've been bamboozled.

[@c0mpu73rguy]

Gen 7 got a gen 1 remake, I was at least expecting something with gen 2. But nooooooo, GF had to go back to the worst city in the worst region pokemon ever made wasting precious dev time to please what is only a small part of the fandom.

[@droycon]

I don’t understand getting excited that it’s coming out next year. They showed no gameplay at all so it’s probably not far in development if they don’t even have a vertical slice to show. Just because it’s coming out in 2025 doesn’t mean it will have enough time, so I’m very skeptical about it.

[@FoxGalahArtStuff]

Maybe its because the game is further than you think in development, but they don't want to show it because it looks bad and have redeemed themselves. I mean, they were fine with showing off 2 frame animations for Pokemon Legends Arceus. If this was 2021, then they would've shown off the Legends ZA gameplay.

[@reestablishingrome]

Gireum, its Mizumi. Glad to see your channel growing well.

[@jonathanrolle2046]

Wait in the first Legends game the male protagonist was wearing a shirt from Kalos.

[@mectainea5575]

Honestly i genuinely hope that ZA ends up being good and leads to better games as a poetic way of kalos being the prelude to the era of mediocrity (even though its not gen 6s fault that it got shafted because gen 7 aka the gen that truly started the era of mediocrity being rushed out for the anniversary) ultimately ending the era of mediocrity. I doubt it will happen due to the nature of how Pokémon is managed but a guy can dream

[@LazyStarrfish]

I really just want it to be a good, solid game. I like Kalos and I like the concept of bringing it all together for Gen 6. I also like that they are taking more time with these projects. Does that mean it will necessarily be better? No. But it’s about probability. The chances of it being more fully cooked and ready to go is higher. Let’s see what they do with a game that they have more time to work on

[@vop1551]

I think that we’re going to have this game start in the future and you will have the ability to travel back and forth in time. I think that way the title is shown ‘Z-A’ is somehow symbolic of that.

[@PluckyInc]

the cosntruction crew/team is called Quasar. and the scene where you see a gyarados in the river, you see a trainer's Absol run past...kinda forboding considering the pokemon itself. the space-themed name either leans towards team galactic, or possibly Macro Cosmos. that company already has their fingers in a bunch of other things like television, electricity, frieght and transportation within galar. so i wouldnt be surprised if they'd branch into surveys/builders with a shell company in kalos.

[@Fluminox-]

It feels great being excited for a pokemon game again. Hopefully we get good BW remakes/Legends Kyurem in the future

[@KingOskar4]

Me too😅 I am also concerned about the Concept Art footage. I am also thinking about "How they are going to screw up this time?" For good reasons. But skipping a year, good decision😊

[@Starkiller-jo9sq]

This is what I think; I think Gamefreak should’ve have let ILCA make Brilliant Diamond and Shinning Pearl remake in 2021, but instead Gamefreak should have combined Legends Arceus and Gamefreaks version of the gen 4 remakes and released them in 2023 by pushing back SV. Instead of making Legend Arceus as a separate game they should have done a retelling of the story in the remake of gen 4. Dialga or Palkia when they opened that time space cutscene with Cyrus, they should have made you go back in time going to the Husui region and the only way to come back is when you caught/ talk to Arceus in Legends but before that you have to fight Volo. After beating him, you battle Arceus then, he would send you back to your own time. But Giratina mad would follow you through the portal thus Giratina taking Cyrus to distortion world and you stopping Cyrus’s plan to make a perfect world.

[@memeextreme1356]

They better not release it in early 2025 like they did with Legends Arceus. They gotta take their time.

[@ProjectMirai64]

I've originally wanted a Gen 5 remake but I am more than happy with this! MEGAS ARE BACK BABYY

[@c0mpu73rguy]

For just one last game, calm down XD

[@rodolfotapia5909]

Everyone keeps talking about Unova. As a die hard Gen 5 fanatic, leave Unova as it is. I don’t want some base 800 dragon Pokémon that’s Kyurem, Zekrom, and Reshiram combined. I don’t want some Miractus or Sigilyph evolution. Just leave it as it is. It’s already perfect.

[@El__Huron]

7:56 Best live reaction ever🤣

[@megamegaO]

I'm not setting myself up for disappointment. It's GF we're talking about here, mass producing pokemon content with little quality. I'm waiting until reviews, and if the game isnt a pop-in/bugged mess.

[@Jake-zp3lz]

Lmao you put the words better than I ever could with the “just make games that don’t suck”😂

[@Atlas461]

Short answer "No". If we want Pokémon to be exciting then the entire fan game community around Pokémon Essentials has to unite use Essentials to create a first party original game with original creatures maps and soundtracks and using the many plugins and start to compete with Pokémon. It is the only way to save the franchise creating a big threat to opposite it directly. This threat however has to be community owned meaning that it should revolve around the community of game makers making endless games to buy, so once games start to rank up and be bought by millions especially using Pokétuber channels to get publicity and dents on Pokémon games sales, then and only then we truly saved the franchise, by making them feel death breathing at their neck with it's scythe cutting through them.

[@tristanneal9552]

I assume it's meant to be "Pokemon Legends: Z to A". Which would make sense if they take a character from the future and drop them in the past like they did in PLA. Basically Z to A, end to beginning, future to past.

[@kephalai]

5:12 - "i did my waiting! 12 years of it! in *AZ*kaban!" was it planned all along?

[@janistransbian]

just glad the unova regions fans are just now finding out how orre region fans have felt since 2021.

[@Mr.Freeze420]

Hopefully after this game and after the unova remake we get actual xy remakes. I wonder what starters are gonna be in this game and since they have new forms like hisui maybe they will have potential mega evos?

[@babulbi]

I'm more happy at the fact they're not releasing anything major this year than anything. Even if I was still holding on to some hope for they to add some sort of battle facility to SV, but hopefully this is a sign of the Pokemon Company no longer rushing their games.

[@ItsAlmighty21]

I'm going to be real. I've haven't enjoyed a Pokemon game since the original Sun and Moon. Sword and Shield/ BDSP killed my hype for any Pokemon game going forward. I'll wait and watch videos before i buy it lol

[@_Ph4tom_]

And legends?

[@BunchaNothin]

Same here. There is no reason to think this is going to be a good game. Im willing to wait and watch until Gamefreak decides to make a decent game, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

[@megamegaO]

@@_Ph4tom_ I blame the current main line to caution me away from legends...but I did hear great things about it, but I wont be buying it personally. It's great that it was actually a good spin off.

[@megamegaO]

Same here bud. Sun and Moon were top tier Pokemon 3DS titles.

[@_Ph4tom_]

@@megamegaO In fact, in terms of gameplay, it is the best Pokémon game

[@MillsMiles.]

This game started development in AT LEAST February 2022. Which means it will be in development for about 3 years. Nothing special

[@TenebraeXVII]

It looks like the title is meant to be read as "Pokemon Legends Z to A"

[@lthefifteenth661]

Was half expecting "You live in a dream world!"

[@TheSpeedfoever]

Im juat glad you excited for this we are back in business now! I wanted a legends game so bad but didn't expect this to happen so im happy now! I'm guessing its both switch 2 launch and the last game on switch to end with a bang! But if it IS a switch 2 game only, then i will take it as well and get that new system badly!

[@JDjade1]

Clearly, we won't know anything until GameFreak starts releasing footage a few months from now, but I think the game will take place in the past. I don't see a "Legends" game taking place in modern-day or future time. This game may take place in the 1850s because there is a historical precedent. Paris, Lumiose's influence, did go through its own "urban redevelopment" around that time. A gentleman named Baron Haussmann was commissioned by Napoleon III to redesign the city to give a more "modern" feel, and Haussmann's design still exist in the layout of Paris(especially central Paris) to this very day. Not only that, but his design served as a template for other European cities to use when through their own modernizations. I'm actually intrigued by what we've seen and I may be down to play a new mainline Pokemon game for the first time since USUM.

[@GameFreakSucks]

I will only buy it if they bring back all of the Pokémon and fix the galar fossils

[@joa6336]

If this game comes out in late 2025, it would be the first time in 15 years since we have a 4-year-development game from GF (the last one was BW1). So yeah, I'm excited

[@TheGamingTeam101Tgt101]

jesus christ..the negativity from some people is killing. me geez people act like none of the recent games have any redeeming quailtys. peopel cant see the good in things. good lord be excited that r

[@commonviewer2488]

This entire console generation, I've skipped Pokémon. This is the one that might actually get me to buy again.

[@allen_the_king40848]

I always wanted the next Pokémon game to be something related to Kalos. Because I always wanted to see Kalos live its true potential after only appearing in X&Y and disappearing for an entire decade. Never cared about anything else because Kalos has been the best region to not live up to its fullest potential.

[@th3ra83]

Flygon: I want a Mega.... Garchomp: Trust me Bro.... YOU DON`T WANT TO GO THERE!!!

[@k_Emptyhead]

As a Unova stan, I AM HAPPY

[@supremeleaderfrancisco9062]

fr we were spared

[@BopKingForever]

Also I’m already seeing Plankton in the SpongeBob Movie where he says “This plan z can’t possibly fail” lol

[@BunchaNothin]

You can't say we're back when you only measure it on hype. And it IS just based on hype if we haven't seen anything about it yet. What we have seen is not even confirmable as something we would see or experience in the game. So no, we are not "back."

[@D7nt_MindMe]

My boy aegislash returns.

[@dragondude7107]

I’m gonna wait for a gameplay trailer before I get excited

[@TarosTheVoid]

Honestly as someone who loves Johto, I feel like Kalos was more deserving of being redone over getting a new Johto or Unova game I never played XY, but honestly I'm very excited for this new game and I want to try this out

[@corey2232]

I think you're giving GF too much credit. If you look back at their past development time lines, they also released Legends Arceus early the year after wrapping up Sw/Sh DLC. Here we are again, just finishing Scarlet/Violet DLC, and early next year we'll probably get Legends Z-A. If we get Gen 10 holiday 2025, then they had the exact same development cycle as they did before.

[@ct9727]

But when legends arceus was announced, it did say it is coming out early 2022 whereas pokemon Legends ZA said 2025

[@avioro4822]

I don’t think the gen 5 remakes got skipped, personally, and I’m a HUGE gen 5 fanboy. Gen 2 remakes came out in gen 4, gen 3 remakes came out in gen 6, gen 4 remakes came out in gen 8, it makes sense that the gen 5 remakes will come out in gen 10… plus, based on the two legends games we’ve seen so far, they don’t seem to be remakes, more so reimaginings and different stories loosely based on the original gen, plus there is no apparent order with gen 4 getting a legends game first, and now gen 6

[@rewind_kitsune]

Welp, we all know what Megas mean. That's right - Charizard Z Wahoo! Yippie!

[@ColdestMorning]

WE ARE SO BACK (I’m a month late but idc) As a gen 6 fan I cannot get over this

[@PiggTheKidd]

Mega Raichu gonna hit like crack

[@ryenpdf]

This region is so fucking nostalgic. The music 😭

[@ryanadkins4840]

Dude’s legit depressing 💀

[@deadpoolfan1002]

WE’RE SO BACK GAMEFREAK PLS DO ZYGARDE AND KALOS JUSTICE🙏

[@sandgrunge]

Pokemon Z to A we will travel from future to past

[@Zockanumber1]

Gamefreak really listened to the gamers feedback. People begged for them to not f up the Gen 5 remakes so they decided to not do them at all

[@danielbischoff133]

Gen 4, a Remake Gen 5, no Remake Gen 6, a Remake Gen 7, no Remake Gen 8, a Remake Gen 9, no Remake Gen 10, a Remake (Black and White)

[@Zeptus1488]

The game might get me back into Nintendo and Pokémon. I'd definitely get the next Nintendo console assuming the Pokémon game is gonna be good. But I'm not hyped at all and very cautious.

[@evowind8926]

Pokémon ZaZa

[@nathanshepherd7027]

Pin it

[@Bramblestar9339]

I’ll be fully believe they’re listening if they finally release Eternal Flower Floette in Legends Z-A. It had itMs own unique stats, couldn’t evolve but also wasn’t effected by evolite, and it’s own signature move

[@xlbthedemigod5662]

I’m just gonna wait more for this next year and my expectations are low. It’s cool that they are finally taking the time

[@obits3]

Pokemon Legends Z-A = PLZA = Plaza

[@talonitex6441]

I’m so excited for the first time ever new mega evolution will bring back so many fans

[@georgeramirez-u5s]

Interesting to see how close this is gameplay wise to Arceus. There isn’t any set gameplay for legends yet so should be interesting

[@MadHatter2k4]

There was a lot of clothing options, secret missions, and more

[@rockfan243]

I'm honestly happy. Pokemon BW and B2W2 are so close to perfect they didn't need a remake. X and y were done DIRTY. Kalos and megas were waaaaaaaaaay underutilized. Kalos deserved a chance to see its full potential.

[@nikidelvalle]

I absolutely agree. Black & White 2 in particular also already got what I'd consider a very enhanced rerelease if you're willing to play Blaze and Volt Redux, but even without them I still think Gen 5 had the best visual style of any Pokemon game and any 3D update would ultimately just make it look worse. Plus X & Y never got the enhanced rerelease it deserved, and I bet anything Pokemon Z would've been pretty darn good. Gen 6 was a mess but out of all of the bad Pokemon games, I think you could see its potential shine through the most.

[@rockfan243]

@@nikidelvalle oh absolutely X and Y clearly needed more time and development. I believe some file leaks show that there was originally a plan for Z but then they decided to just move on To sun and moon probably to create a new generation for Pokemon's 20th anniversary. With a lot of possible z content getting crammed into sun and moon. Also with Gen 6 being the start of real gimmicks Mega Evolution was still one of the best and most beloved gimmicks Pokemon ever came up with and I really hope they take the time to introduce new Megas and this as well. Gen 6 had so many great ideas Character customization Mega evolution Hord encounters The ev training games Pokemon amie Riding pokemon (limited but still there) Soaring Fairy type And the PSS was the best pokemon online system period. Gen 6 needs a good loving revamp more than Gen 5

[@randomedgygamer2191]

Since the last pokemon game that truly hyped me up was XY and maybe legends, im so happy about this.

[@Arcanine1995]

The only good thing is that this will be a well fleshed out game but I was not a fan of PLA so I'm not hugely excited for this tbh

[@rooty]

There's no fucking way they're working on a Switch 2 game. There's no way they're gonna do a dual release. And there's no way it will run any better on Switch 2 even if it is a dual release.

[@Daggerworda]

I think by set within the city they mean that Luminose will be the main base similar to Jubilife in PLA. I think it would be impossible to do a legends games without other wild areas where you can catch Pokémon

[@zjzr08]

It can be possible it's not gonna be catching focused on and more mission focused where maybe you recruit Pokemon than catching them.

[@chrisf.9595]

We saw nothing of the gameplay, it's always the same thing with Pokemon trailers, not actual gameplay cutscenes, done in a flashy way to hype everyone up, only to release a game indie developers on Steam would be ashamed of.

[@SunriseRss]

Should be interesting being set in the city.

[@berdo2595]

I think it's like "Z.A." to avoid the "Zah" pronunciation.

[@Lucrei.]

There's NO WAY IN HELL that modern Game Freak will deliver on the pitch of this game.

[@faithful_otaku7339]

Nope, I'm done with Pokemon games, I stick to romhacks from now on.

[@Mattyman1987]

Kalos absolutely deserves this game.

[@fembuss9528]

“Skipping gen 5” implies that it was gen 5’s time to shine in the first place😭😭😭 Which was not the case cause it’s not even gen 10 yet

[@julianx2rl]

Me: (Hears about announcement) So we're going into the war? Pokémon: Nah man, you crazy? You're getting Luminose City. Me: That small fraction of the world we got on 3DS 10+ years ago? Pokémon: Correct.

[@FoxGalahArtStuff]

The reason why they couldn't optimise cities is because the games were rushed. This is coming out in 2025 (I hope not early 2025), so they'll have time to actually optimise the city.

[@sacrefice_8753]

Lets hope they'll actually work on the game till release and dont be like "well it was done late 2024, now we just need to wait for the switch 2 release. Lets start work on the next game, gotta keep the yearly cycle going"... I start beliveing that they actually listend to the fans when i see the final result for the next games. The gaming industy has shown too many times that they can talk all day and still release shit in the end.

[@ghosthost4073]

We’re so back

[@Dionaea_floridensis]

Not buyin' until i see game play

[@axplade2899]

I'm just disappointed that Game Freak keeps making the scale of the Pokemon world smaller. As it might work for other IPs, it doesn't work for Pokemon. Pokemon is all about world building, exploring the unknown. Remember that Hoenn map felt huge but actually it's just some suburban area in Japan. Galar is essentially United Kingdom and Switzerland, not to mention it has a wild area in it, yet it still feels smaller than Hoenn region, especially when there were so many graphic buildings that you cannot enter. That's because Hoenn region had so many things to explore. For example, areas that doesn't contribute to the main storyline at all but it exists merely to make the world feel complete, just some random place you will pass by to proceed to the next location, and you may discover things you wouldn't expect in these areas. That's what playing Pokemon is. They could have done so many things better, but they chose not to. We want a whole Kalos region, with a complete story, not broken up shit like this. (Though I might probably still play this shit even after all these rant lol, I just hope I will be proven wrong)

[@kephalai]

bro ranted for hours and end up still paying and playing the game even if it ends up shit. no wonder gamefreak never needs to improve with fans like this lmao

[@axplade2899]

@@kephalai it's hard to let go. Have been a fan of Pokemon for 20+ years.

[@aaronolson6736]

Dude we're so back, I already cracked whats going one with the title. PLA had Pokemon in Blue (open skies,) Legends in Green (open plains), and Arceus in brush strokes (setting the time period). PLZA has Pokemon in a pale Pink like Diancie, Z has Zygarde's aesthetic and A is reminiscent of the Ultimate Weapon. The themes of XY were (apparently) beauty, bonds, and evolution. Diancie as a diamond could be beauty, Zygarde as multiple pieces is then bonds, which leaves "A" to represent evolution, going back to the ultimate weapon being the origin of mega stones. The "A" Pokemon (possibly chaos to Zygarde's order) intervening at times could even be why Iron Valiant and Roaring Moon are reminiscent of mega-evolved Gardevoir+Gallade and Salamence. Could end up that Battle Bond is Zygarde's version of Mega Evolution and sees more distribution.

[@skystalker293]

I am very happy with this, 2025 will be a great year, since zygarde is one of if not my fav legendary i will try to buy the switch 2 for the game.

[@jonathanrolle2046]

2025

[@skystalker293]

@@jonathanrolle2046 MB