is Power Creep going to ruin Player experience in Honkai Star Rail?

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Neo: Star Impact

Neo: Star Impact

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@NeoStarImpact
@NeoStarImpact 3 күн бұрын
Do you think I cooked on this one, or am I the one being cooked? Let me know
@basty_gaming5750
@basty_gaming5750 2 күн бұрын
Maybe play Limbus Company, then.
@NeoStarImpact
@NeoStarImpact 2 күн бұрын
I don't even know that game lol
@tufol33k78
@tufol33k78 14 сағат бұрын
getting cooked with the Genshin chars comparison... you are eating copium on "Ganyu's upgrades" which mostly were Shenhe invest, C2 Kazuha for long (Burnmelt is a pure lie, it's like a DoTcheron garbage ngl), then nothing major up until Xilonen. Also, the comparison doesn't stand, because we literally have Buhbin for HSR (which is acting as any "indirect buff" you mention for Genshin) Edit, struggling with Seele is skill and invest issue, Blade got Jade (even for MOC); just look at Zyox account ngl at this point, the infamous Wind/Anemo/Aero glazer. DoT or Blade "missing a piece" is a problem, but JIng Yuan (coming from a 1.0 Jing Yuan player btw) had a missing piece from the start, up until Sunday, which is around a year and 6 months...
@tufol33k78
@tufol33k78 14 сағат бұрын
just to add with the Genshin comparison, most casual have stopped to play Ganyu, or even Ayaka, or Raiden, juste because they didn't get proper tailor-made supports. If people, at the end, don't like their character enough, they shouldn't complain on giving up on them, as they literally wanted to play with a New Toy
@tufol33k78
@tufol33k78 14 сағат бұрын
Tingyun, Pela, Gallagher, suske Mini Herta, PF Tier 0 since launch suske Yes, we're missing good 4 stars, for sure and the casualness factor is added for Genshin too, ppl dropped Xingqiu, because they have dogewater Xingqiu (and didn't build a NO (VV Vape BiS) or Cinder City Xingqiu (Hyperbloom BiS), Xiangling is also being dropped by casuals for Mavuika even when she's worse than Xiangling... and Bennett, I can't counf for the ammount of motherfckers who pulled C2 Furina, just to cope and avoid Bennett (even if it'd be better to play C2 Furina alongside Bennett) Now, in HSR language... If you don't have S5 DDD for Tingyun.. I mean, do you even play the game? If your supports are below 160 SPD, same... are you playing the game, or are you legit afk...
@Tamytaummta
@Tamytaummta 2 күн бұрын
2024~ HSR players: GENSHIN COULD NEVER 2025~ Genshin players: How is your favourite character doing? Got Power crept ?😂🤣
@NeoStarImpact
@NeoStarImpact 2 күн бұрын
Honestly, you are not wrong. I play both, so I see the differences. A little less power creep and it would be incredible.
@ahlemlora1452
@ahlemlora1452 Күн бұрын
How are your anniversary rewards doing these days ? The banner schedule doing good by ya'll this patch ? we heard males have gone extinct over at your place. How's the price tag on exploration Qol doing ? Resin cap gain any volume lately ? How's the drop rate for billets from bosses ? speaking of bosses, still can only do a boss once per weak with a random roll of which of the three mats drop ? How's the "specific day of the week" locked mats treating ya'll ? Any new endgames on the horizon ? is Dailnsleaf even still a thing ? How are your Natlan characters fairing in their travels outside of their homeland ? Any use for traveler in meta team comps ? The yapping baby still haunting your dreams ?
@ChrisUchiha7
@ChrisUchiha7 Күн бұрын
@@ahlemlora1452Bro can’t take a joke💀
@ahlemlora1452
@ahlemlora1452 Күн бұрын
@@ChrisUchiha7 Nah, I'm joking too :D
@Gration_
@Gration_ Күн бұрын
@@ChrisUchiha7 It was a joke till he used a laundry list of stuff that has gone unaddressed since release lol.
@polus134
@polus134 2 күн бұрын
The problem with HSR is the fact the entire game is a DPS check. If they want new units to be exciting they have to help clear content faster or more optimally. Noone wants a new unit that does less than what they already have. In genshin you have a lot of other factors like how they feel to play, exploration and so on. Basically HSR is doomed to powercreep as that is the only insentive to pull new units as there is nothing to them besides clearing faster than prior units. HSR is also way more restrictive in teams compared to genshin. Most characters are hyper focused on a singular thing they do and when they end up doing more they become meta like robin
@secondaegis9190
@secondaegis9190 2 күн бұрын
HSR could've been better with the sort of puzzle fight kind of thing, where certain play styles are better for certain bosses, and that is sort of reflected in game like how Banana encourages AOE, Sunday encourages break DPS with his multiple toughness bars, etc. But in MOC/AS? Throw it all away. All you need is damage, and only SOMETIMES check what the mechanic is
@bankkunarak
@bankkunarak Күн бұрын
one thing genshin did way better than HSR is elemental reaction + transformative damage. transformative damage make genshin support/4* can also be god tier and contribute to the team. bloom team is the best example, ignore the fact that nilou enhanced bloom damage by 2.5x, bloom team are composed of all useless characters because all of them do virtually no damage, they are all there to produce bloom seed. you need zero meta/dps in that team (my first bloom team had barbara, which i didn't use for god know how long). imagine lingsha in genshin (she can team heal, apply pyro off-field in interval, and ult small nuke+emergency team heal) she would be a new pyro archon (more like pyro citlali with heal instead of shield) in genshin (still below benette) and she didn't even do damage, just the elemental reaction/application that she can provide for the team make her god tier. genshin is surprisingly way more healthy in term of character shelf life because sure everything is about damage number, but everyone can somewhat reasonably produce the said damage number even support chars.
@TheEllord33
@TheEllord33 18 сағат бұрын
@@secondaegis9190 The problem with this is a good proportion of player base are from genshin and other gacha and can't read or think to save their life so they need the end game to be accessible with overtuned character on auto-play.
@kawaiimika7974
@kawaiimika7974 2 күн бұрын
Love how Star Rail always gets praised for being generous yet it's arguably the most prefatory game... 😭
@secondaegis9190
@secondaegis9190 2 күн бұрын
It's mostly "generous" because it doesn't have the Genshin sized maps to give people pulls, so they just mail it to us. HSR also places more emphasis on pulling characters rather than building them, so that's another reason they give us more pulls: once we start, it'll be harder to stop
@kawaiimika7974
@kawaiimika7974 2 күн бұрын
​@@secondaegis9190 I think it would be easier to stop. At least it is for me. Since like... You pull a DPS to clear the content, if the content stops being clearable with those units it would be a big turn off for me. I wasn't able to 36 star anything in Star Rail up until I got Feixiao and Robin. All of the sudden I was able to clear things. If for some reason my Feixiao and Rappa become unable to clear content what would be the point of investing into future units if they'll eventually fall off as well? If that happens I'll just go back to how I played before Feixiao, casually and for the story and to pull a character I like. Cuz come on 😭
@emanuel5242
@emanuel5242 2 күн бұрын
It is. People just are bad in this game lol
@ahlemlora1452
@ahlemlora1452 Күн бұрын
Here's a mirror, give it to the genshin players that pulled both Mavuika and Citlali and still praise the genshin devs.
@kawaiimika7974
@kawaiimika7974 Күн бұрын
​@@emanuel5242 You can't be bad in a turn based game. Was Jingliu or wasn't Jingliu the best DPS when she came out? Was DPS a better pull than Jing Yuan? Was Sparkle or wasn't Sparkle a competent support? You can't blame people for Hoyoverse putting out powercreep every 3 updates and massively scaling the enemy HP. After all, AT THE TIME, these characters were insane.
@Tovy
@Tovy 2 күн бұрын
Ok, f this, I'm not gonna higher than floor 10 anymore, it's not worth the time
@NeoStarImpact
@NeoStarImpact 2 күн бұрын
I think you should wait and see about the mechanics. It is possible that only that one boss is that huge and then they go back to more "normal" numbers
@tufol33k78
@tufol33k78 14 сағат бұрын
yep, definitely not your builds being trash; more womp womp will solve the problem Just a comparison;: "I'm fat" = average commu => "Fat is beautiful" ppl like me "hey yo, wake up, you're gonna die at 30, go to the fuckin gym" chose your camp
@Author_Gamer
@Author_Gamer 13 сағат бұрын
For me it’s moc 12 that I can’t get the full rewards for. I can still clear but won’t get the rewards. Personally I just don’t think the final floor is worth the trouble nor achievable with my characters.
@Juice-chan
@Juice-chan 2 күн бұрын
great video man! in my opinion, genshin's meta problems have never been linked so much to HP inflation. moreso nonsense with nightsoul, they're shilling that gimmick WAY too hard despite it offering nothing enriching to the game as it only serves to restrict teams & pressure you into pulling for Natlan characters... (e.g, HP-loss mechanics were genuinely enriching as they made healers super strong) in HSR's case, i think what is being lacked is what you stated earlier with ganyu-mavuika. old characters need buffs more often. like when black swan came out to help kafka? GREAT step in the right direction! or even jiaoqiu for acheron. but we need more four stars who can do this as well, & they need to do this more frequently. it's gonna become nearly impossible to keep up with endgame with the resources that the game gives you if these spikes keep up
@nobody-xh6ii
@nobody-xh6ii 2 күн бұрын
The big problem is that before we didn't have issues like this in genshin... until Da Wei happened. The same guy who made out of control powercreep in HI3rd and HSR. It's definitely a problem
@czsgenesis
@czsgenesis 2 күн бұрын
The reason why the 3.0-2 MoC has this much HP is beacuse of the boss mechanic btw. It has a skill that spawns 4 adds and each one you kill takes like 10-20% of the its HP.
@LordStrell
@LordStrell 2 күн бұрын
Yep, all in an effort to push Therta
@NeoStarImpact
@NeoStarImpact 2 күн бұрын
Yeah only pure single targets should struggle. So ideally I would expect the very next boss to drop at least to 3X levels.
@silverhawkscape2677
@silverhawkscape2677 Күн бұрын
And in thus MOC for the Bug. I completely ignored the Trotters and focused on the Boss. Its so funny to be able to clear it with brute force with Ratio. Even if it took 6 cycles it still funny ​@@NeoStarImpact
@Shizu1392
@Shizu1392 Күн бұрын
Yeah that mean acheron should atleast be able to shine she did super well for me in the last hp shared boss
@NeoStarImpact
@NeoStarImpact Күн бұрын
It is even better if Trotters are purely collateral damage for Acheron. :D
@T--------
@T-------- 2 күн бұрын
hopefully the hp increases start to plateau, and supports that are as great, future proof and work in like almost every team you slap them on like in genshin get released, those are just some ideas, because as of right now it really is dire and kinda worrying, but with the amount of outcry (justified) from the community hopefully they'll do something
@NeoStarImpact
@NeoStarImpact Күн бұрын
My hope is that the increase we get in 2nd half of 3.0 is momentarily and than the HP goes hopefully back to prior levels or only a bit above that. Than we should be good.
@junn679
@junn679 2 күн бұрын
i usually clear moc 3-4 turn with acheron, fu xuan, fox guy and ruan mei, for the other side with shield guy, march, fei xiao and robin new moc, its take 10, jeeez
@NeoStarImpact
@NeoStarImpact Күн бұрын
If you got an E0 Acheron I think only Sparkle and maybe Sunday is good enough to break the 2 Nihility rule. Other supports will lead to a dps loss until you get Acheron E2. Have you tried Pela instead of Ruan Mai?
@rin9005
@rin9005 11 сағат бұрын
Not a powercreep issue but a skill issue Fei can stilll 3 cost 0-C. HSR is a strategy game speedtuning is key.
@FeetSmeller999
@FeetSmeller999 2 күн бұрын
Id wish they added hangout events like they have in ZZZ. Kind of tired of having a character's value being solely tied to their dmg. So far ive been 0cycling moc with FF but with jingliu and kafka its been kinda rough. I feel like powercreep will feel even worse in the future cause moc, pf, AS are the only things to do in hsr.
@ScaryYokai
@ScaryYokai 2 күн бұрын
I absolutely hate hangout events, that is the one thing I never do in ZZZ. If you want to play with any character in HSR you can do that in SU or DU gamemode, blessings and curios basically can carry any team to victory there.
@silverhawkscape2677
@silverhawkscape2677 Күн бұрын
Hopefully ZZZ making a character be valued outside of Battle encourages them to powercreep less like Genshin.
@silverhawkscape2677
@silverhawkscape2677 Күн бұрын
​@@ScaryYokai hangouts are worth it
@xXzman9000Xx
@xXzman9000Xx 20 сағат бұрын
i've been waiting months for people to start freaking out over the hp increases since they were first "dreamed" a while ago. the funny thing is, if you remove the boss mechanic that is causing this hp increase, its actually lower effective hp then we have had in a while, its just the mechanic around the boss makes it as if the boss has way more hp then it actually does, as long as you ignore the mechanic. thing i've been most excited about for 3.0, while maybe a little toxic of me, is the absolute meltdown of the content creators who won't be able to clear it because they refuse to read mechanics and just smash their heads against the wall. will also be interesting to see how many people get baited to pull a new unit because they assume they need it to beat the content, when in reality lots of older characters will be able to deal with it just fine.
@NeoStarImpact
@NeoStarImpact 20 сағат бұрын
@@xXzman9000Xx I can see what you mean. For now my account is in a very decent position. Got E1S1 Mei, will pick up E1 on Robin eventually and I E0S1 Sunday and Sparkle that I can upgrade along the way. My E2S1 Acheron will serve for quite a while to come. But yeah in the future I am going to make more preps to have an even stronger backbone of supports. I just know from my own look at the things that I am going to put more emphasize on horizontal/linear upgrade paths into certain supports lines with the goal of making Player accounts more resilient. If people listen or not in the end is on another page.
@arifreggit
@arifreggit 20 сағат бұрын
Powercreep in genshin is acceptable at least we can dodge or animation cancel or some tricks to get faster/bigger dmg. In HSR there is no such a thing, it just numbers
@guimbitencourt
@guimbitencourt 2 күн бұрын
I stopped to play HSR at 2.3 and I had a good team with Acheron E2 and can get all stars for all contents, came back this week and just got completed the Pure Fiction cause I also have Jade. But the MOC is impossible to me.
@XxMvpKostxX
@XxMvpKostxX 2 күн бұрын
is that even a question will it ruin player experience or nah? i feel bad for totally f2p player they gonna have to settle with 10 floor or even less and their income also gonna be cut along with that.... im glad i didnt buy into da wei tears last time
@NeoStarImpact
@NeoStarImpact Күн бұрын
F2Ps can only go invest into certain teams more. Getting that Mai E1, Robin E1 stuff like that. Even if it means to pass on a couple of other things. And the best part is that their investment carries over. Once people got these big guns they play a different game.
@backpackpepelon3867
@backpackpepelon3867 23 сағат бұрын
CEO tears are never true, doesn't matter who and which country it came from.
@FahadGG1
@FahadGG1 19 сағат бұрын
some people in the community don't want to talk about powercreep which makes me wonder how thicc their brains is? are they this desperate to pretended everything is fine? are they hoyo lawyers?
@Yuossf-yaseser
@Yuossf-yaseser 2 күн бұрын
Axia will bring a huge buff for achron by replacing pela and I think all the community idea about Power Cr is wrong becsuse lets say you got a 4 cost team and they was so strong and 2 patches and a new dps with more power come but he has a difrent team requirements and it will cost you more 3 cost (minimum as the dps and his lightcone and 1 new supp he need ) then you have 2 options 1- start from zero and get the new dps and his team and 2- find closest break point your team has (wich avarage 1 :2 cost) that can make your old team compared to the new dps teams For a f2p like me I go with second option because I don't need to 0 cycle or and I'm fine with 3 : 7 cycle and can stay 1 or 2 patches without pull to get the newest meta and full investment on the new team unless I felt last couple patches was difficult and next I will struggle a lot (that's why I will get E0 hert for pure fiction only on the next 30 pull after I lost my 50/50) and wait axia to improve my 5 cost achron team and make a choice between herta team (wil need tribbie and a new erudition that willcome after 4 patches minimum) or go with castorice team (and get sunday ) I hope all this talk will help anyone f2p like me
@NeoStarImpact
@NeoStarImpact 2 күн бұрын
I get roughly where you are coming from. But that doesn’t mean our idea about power creep is wrong. You actually acknowledge it in every point which is good. But I also must commend you for not putting your hands in the air and cry about that. Instead, you found viable ways to deal with the creap and stay on top of the game. I like that. In my future videos, I will include more strategies like yours so that F2Ps can still get their gems.
@Moonfairy127
@Moonfairy127 20 сағат бұрын
if u mean anaxa? he changed to imaginary erudition. The nihility girl afterwards is dot.
@MrLordofrobloxia
@MrLordofrobloxia Күн бұрын
i mean am f2p, don't have much luck with units and only has 2 signature lightcones ( firefly and acheron's ) no eidolons, still manages to clear most of the content except for the MOC 12 depending on the rotation , sometimes the AS too but yea
@rin9005
@rin9005 10 сағат бұрын
Powercreep does exist but it is very minimal, people got spoiled by the high floor of break teams that most players completely forgot that speed tuning is key. Don't expect to have fast clears while using shitty relics with improperly speed tuned comps. HSR is a strategy game not an idle game all it takes is simple maths to figure out how much speed you need. Although power creep and HP inflation is real, they are minimal. We have more resources, more supports, better relics than what we have before so the HP inflation is justified. Don't expect to clear fast enough with characters that barely have 134 speed.
@supernieva2419
@supernieva2419 2 күн бұрын
Depends most player i know are not even interested in end game content and more into story quest only so the one that are most cooked gonna be the end game enjoyers.
@kevinm7927
@kevinm7927 2 күн бұрын
The 3.0 MoC one is pretty misleading as the boss has a lot of hp but is easier to kill than somebody like svarog due to his gimmick. The boss practicaly kills itself as long as you kill the summons
@Haarba1
@Haarba1 2 күн бұрын
or just forget about MOC12, Im as a f2p lack just 2 stars in current MOC, I think its 150 crystals or 100 even. How many refreshes of MOC we got in a year? Think in total you getting like 5000-6000 of currency from these last 2 stars, so lets say 4x10 rolls, so not even a guaranteed pity for a single banner, now compare in to investment needed, to actually full clear top content, it will never pay for itself. So I just dont care if I can do all stars or miss few.
@baron7562
@baron7562 2 күн бұрын
Your point is only valid if powercreep was goin in a steady pace like Genshin for example. But that is not the case with HSR. Here, powercreep is happening in alarming rate where 5 star characters are having an average of 6 month lifespan. assuming you are using the same team, If you are missing 2 stars today, you will miss 5 stars the next season, then 10 the next season, then 15, then 20, so on and so forth. And eventually you wont be able to clear anything at all. Thats the crux of the powercreep issue. Everything gets progressively unattainable.
@ScaryYokai
@ScaryYokai 2 күн бұрын
​@@baron7562That is not true, if you are actively playing and keep pulling for new characters you will be fine, it just deincentivizes saving, on average you get 80 pulls per patch so that's a new character every other patch, you can even skip LCs because most of them bring marginal improvement.
@T--------
@T-------- 2 күн бұрын
I don't think it's about the jades, it just feels bad to invest time and effort into the game and not being able to clear endgame content due to artificially inflated difficulty, it just feels shitty
@danifox2244
@danifox2244 Күн бұрын
​@@T-------- yea...
@baron7562
@baron7562 Күн бұрын
@@ScaryYokai "if you are actively playing and keep pulling for new characters you will be fine" - And why exactly would a player be forced to do that? The whole point of gacha games is to collect characters you have attachment to. If the game forces you to pull for new characters to overcome Powercreep, then its greedy game design. Look at Genshin for example. Hu Tao is still quite competitive in endgame even though multiple Pyro DPS characters have come after. All people are asking is to have similar situation in HSR. Seele, Sparkle, Jingliu, DHIL etc, would still be competitive if this was Genshin. But because its HSR and powercreep is out of control, those older units simply cannot compete.
@TopHatDogs
@TopHatDogs 18 сағат бұрын
So does this mean I should get alglea or the herta??
@hypergordon4467
@hypergordon4467 2 күн бұрын
That Aglea graph got me thinking if I should create a new account 💀💀💀. Because bro I started in 2.0 and mostly pulled milfs. And everyone is still not completely build yet. My current teams are Acheron S1, Kafka, Black Swan, Aventurine and Jingliu S1, Sanday S1, Robin, Geopard E1. And the other characters are Jade, Houhou, Bronya, Ruan Mei, Ratio and other standard banner characters. Should I change account for this new patch bro?
@lapplanddd
@lapplanddd 2 күн бұрын
Remaking account is a pain in the ass. You have a lot of good characters already. I'd pull 1 new meta dps and stop sweating about power creep
@JunaTirzah
@JunaTirzah 2 күн бұрын
If you made a new account, you'd be even farther behind. Lower trailblazer level means less rewards when farming materials, you'd have only the starting cast worth of characters + anything you pull on any banners, you'd also have no reserve of jades. Also, you'd have to build every character you want to use from scratch
@Ikaretayaroudaze
@Ikaretayaroudaze 2 күн бұрын
Ur account seems great, just pull for aglaea or the Herta they both really work well with the characters u have. Aglaea,Sunday,huohuo and Robin will be strongest team until castorice comes out or u can use team of the herta,jade Robin and aventurine which will be 2nd best
@Shizu1392
@Shizu1392 Күн бұрын
I give up on end game lm just gonna pull who i like if i can clear 3 stars then cool if not its no big deal
@NeoStarImpact
@NeoStarImpact Күн бұрын
It is definitely one or the other. Keeping up with MoC is not easy especially for F2Ps. As you need those 5-star supports with their banger LC & Eidolons. Like E1 Mei, E1 Robin ... I still don't have Kafkas LC but I got RM E1. So she still hits pretty hard not gonna lie.
@Shizu1392
@Shizu1392 Күн бұрын
@NeoStarImpact I'm good probably all the way to 4.0 since I've spent too much money on this game and I regret it so I don't plan on pulling anything unless I like the character at about 200+ pulls now even after summoning for fugue
@Boomadonna
@Boomadonna 2 күн бұрын
Really nice content
@NeoStarImpact
@NeoStarImpact Күн бұрын
thank you very much!
@MeryKeit
@MeryKeit 2 күн бұрын
The devs can buff old characters if they want to to make them relevant. Look at Jing Yuan with Sunday's release - he's back to meta again rivaling Acheron with his utility. On the other hand we have characters like DHIL, who got buffed by Sparkle, but it was obviously not enough. Characters like Blade with HP manipulation and Kafka with DOT will also see improvements when supports designed specificly for them will relese. But DHIL and, probably Seele are most likely a last cause at this point, so if you don't have them at constilations this far, you probably should just let them be and move on to newer characters if you want to keep up with the current demands of the end-game.
@Gojiradogzillagodzilla
@Gojiradogzillagodzilla Күн бұрын
I honestly blame it on the decision to make characters have 2 skills. Its a turn based game, theres only so much characters can do, so if new shiny characters cant be much different from previous one, the only way to make them different is to constantly raise the bar. IMO HSR characters should have their unique abilities (basics, E, Q and talents) AND some generic abilities characters are able to learn, just to add more variety and versatility to building teams and gearing characters. I'm not asking for anything complex btw, but the game being this simple will be its downfall. Unless you really love pressing E-Q all game and watching the same animations over and over again the game gets stale really quickly. It DOES have great story but some of the latest dialogue have been so bloated i kinda gave up on that as well. And dont even try to blame it on me cause ive read literally most chapters of HI3rd in their entirety as well as FGO chapters without skipping, reading is not a problem for me but it has to be good. Edit: yes FGO is not much better, but the story and writing is cracked (for the most part lol) and even my beloved 3* characters can hit hundreds of thousand and clear challenging boss fights just fine (USHIWAKAMARU MY BELOVED)
@1LEETLAND
@1LEETLAND 14 сағат бұрын
Uh huh. I'm pretty sure that the last 2-3 levels of moc will ruin the game for me 👍
@LordStrell
@LordStrell 2 күн бұрын
100% have zero issues clearing with acheron. Difference between most players and myself is i invested vertically. The majority complaining don’t want to do that. They want to invest wide. What we have seen with characters like Sunday is that they breathe new life into older characters like Jingyuan along with new planar ornaments and sets. Acheron truly only has “one” character actually made for her. (Jiaoqiu) Eventually she will get another character that will heavily benefit her. Yes the current shiny dps will always looks better because they are glazing the content FOR THAT CHARACTER. It’s just marketing and eventually like firefly that character will fade unless you invest in them. Firefly was able to slum with a VERY cheap build with e0s0 and ruan mei e0s0 and hmc plus gallagher. This was a rare circumstance and hoyo has clearly been pushing break into an invest in it or it will fade direction. Play your faves, invest in your faves, pick characters that support your faves, don’t fomo over dps. Enjoy
@NeoStarImpact
@NeoStarImpact 2 күн бұрын
I think I would call it horizontal investment what you mean. Getting the right supports, lcs etc to make your dps stronger. While vertical is getting eidolons and lc on the dps himself.
@LordStrell
@LordStrell Күн бұрын
@@NeoStarImpact I was trying to highlight people tend to not get eidolons or light cones at all. Strategic horizontal is fine but the moment you’re just grabbing every e0s0 character that comes out you’re missing the sauce. I get a lot of people don’t want to hear that skipping the lightcone isn’t always a good idea or grabbing an eidolon for one character means missing out on the newest shiny coming next. But that’s just the nature of the game. Ultimately if you neglect your vertical investment you’re going to end up with a massive roster of half baked units that don’t do what you want them to do.
@giovanni1166
@giovanni1166 Күн бұрын
My fav is Kafka........ And is unplayable in most moc 12 cause I have all e0s0 but with this high powercreept I'm not so sure that is worth invest in dot without a new support
@LordStrell
@LordStrell Күн бұрын
@ i have e0s1 kafka and e1s1 swan. I know your pain but unusable and not able to 0 cycle are very different arguments. Kafka swan robin and huohuo/aventurine/lingsha works just fine. It’s not ideal but it’s what we have currently
@NeoStarImpact
@NeoStarImpact Күн бұрын
@@LordStrell i am certainly gonna do more investment directions that help people to upgrade their archetype they want to play for that reason. Even thinking of making some sort of flow chart. But sure if people just pull on every banner they lose. I am with you on that. It is fine if they just want to collect. But than they can't complain if the units lack oomph.
@DioBrando-xo7zd
@DioBrando-xo7zd Күн бұрын
I love new characters, but only when i get them, but powercreep is doomed me since penacony, i didnt get any op unit here (my Acheron is trash, no need to build her better without her signature and E2)
@Miandey
@Miandey 5 сағат бұрын
You sound like a German speaking english, are you german?
@capellaXcom
@capellaXcom 3 күн бұрын
ill show you my f2p team can easily auto all content after v3.
@NeoStarImpact
@NeoStarImpact 3 күн бұрын
@@capellaXcom what is your F2P team? Would need to be something that can deal well with the new boss mechanics in AoE. Or Boothill as he somehow can bypass the boss mechanics.
@capellaXcom
@capellaXcom 3 күн бұрын
MOC Team 1 Fei Xiao(signature),Fugue,Lingsha,Ruan Mei(sig and e1) Team 2 Acheron(sig and e1),Jiaoqui(sig),Pela(e6),Houhou PF Team 1 Acheron,Jiaoqui,Pela,Lingsha Team 2 Himeko(break build,e2), Herta(e6),Ruan Mei,Fugue AS Team 1 Lingsha,Fugue,Jing Yuan(sig),Fei Xiao Team 2 Acheron,Jiaoqui,Ruan Mei,Houhou
@NeoStarImpact
@NeoStarImpact 3 күн бұрын
Defininitely interested to see if Acheron holds up. You certainly have less tools to work with on double nihility. I have E2. And sure this version I was able to 0 Cycle but I wonder what happens when she is forced to deal with twice as tanky enemies. Will come down if she can clear the adds or not with that boss.
@capellaXcom
@capellaXcom 3 күн бұрын
@@NeoStarImpact i can see that these teams can hold up until we get a new 5 star as f2p. Power creep is only a problem if you can’t keep up with new releases.
@candleplays8030
@candleplays8030 2 күн бұрын
​@@capellaXcom Got my hopes up when i heard f2p
@nanasuyoru
@nanasuyoru 2 күн бұрын
I don't care that I can't full star clear on 12 MoC so NO. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@apidgey1791
@apidgey1791 Күн бұрын
soon you wont be able to clear at all
@nanasuyoru
@nanasuyoru Күн бұрын
@apidgey1791 now I can still finish it with 11 star so no problem.
@de4thINC.
@de4thINC. Күн бұрын
Same 🤣
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