Is race politics poisoning young minds? Coleman Hughes weighs in

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@TraversyMedia
@TraversyMedia 10 ай бұрын
This guy is fantastic and makes so much sense (rare these days). The fact that this could be controversial just shows how insane the world is. I feel like we were headed in the right direction with this until the 2010s when everyone went nuts. I feel like Im in some kind of twisted dimension where “judging people by the content of their character” is now a bad racist thing. Looney tunes
@technolus5742
@technolus5742 10 ай бұрын
It's a bad thing when it's an argument for preserving inequality. That is not the case here.
@pouetpouetdaddy5
@pouetpouetdaddy5 10 ай бұрын
2010: the beginning of social media…and the circulation and rebirth of idea who was dead because ineffective. Offense is a money-making scheme. And traditional medias give up and give them attention they shouldn't get, because its "progressives". When I hear youngster now, that homophobia, racism or sexism is as high than in the fifties, I know they are pretty much manipulate, not even knowing how much the world change in the last 40 years in this front
@NanaOHL
@NanaOHL 10 ай бұрын
100% if you ask most minorities how they would prefer to be judged it would be on the content of their character, you know, the thing they can control
@KwendeMadu
@KwendeMadu 10 ай бұрын
In other words he's telling white people what they want to hear, While that may assuage your conscience it does nothing to stop pervasive, institutionalized and systemic racism that I deal with daily.
@jaientenduunevoix726
@jaientenduunevoix726 10 ай бұрын
Social media and smartphones melted the brains of millennials and zoomers. Viral, out of context videos and horrible ideas spread like wildfire
@Pangolier
@Pangolier 10 ай бұрын
I am always surprised that I need to select my race and ethnicity in every form I fill in recently. Always asking myself why do they need this?
@SnozberriesTasteLikeSnozberrys
@SnozberriesTasteLikeSnozberrys 10 ай бұрын
I won't do it anymore, and I'm not opening the door for the census either. Knock till ur knuckles bleed, sweet cheeks😂 Why do they need to know if my kids are the same race as me, My marital status. Next they will need a list of our sexual History 😂
@jayl271322
@jayl271322 10 ай бұрын
It’s relevant as part of demographic data collection that’s needed for planning. The census is an analogous example.
@VestaRoleplay
@VestaRoleplay 10 ай бұрын
Sure, but we know that it’s not only used as data collection. There’s evidence that schools are using it for arbitrary reasons.
@heynicetomeetyou
@heynicetomeetyou 10 ай бұрын
Examples? Haven't ever seen any race or ethnicity selector.
@pouetpouetdaddy5
@pouetpouetdaddy5 10 ай бұрын
@@jayl271322but why the state of melanin of your skin should be important for a job?
@dravenlee4473
@dravenlee4473 10 ай бұрын
I'm firmly in the colorblind camp that Coleman describes. Yes - you see that a person has a different color skin and you acknowledgement that they may have a different life experience than you do but you shouldn't just assume that. Treat everyone equally with respect and dignity. I want race to ultimately be like hair color. It's just a trait. This is how the majority of the world treated race for most of our existence.
@RicardoMorenoAlmeida
@RicardoMorenoAlmeida 10 ай бұрын
ALWAYS assume others have a different experience than yours. It is impossible to know another persons mind, and even IF they had all the same experiences as you, their understanding and processing of those experiences still would be different. Treat everyone with respect and dignity, yes, until they prove they don't deserve it. I agree with you that skin color should just be a trait, like heir color, unless it's important, like in medicine, where your biology matters. Doctors should NOT treat people differently because of skin color, but should take traits into consideration for treatment. People of African descent, for example, have been shown to have higher rates of heart disease. Just one more thing, I think we should NOT be referring to "race", but either skin color, or more broadly, ethnicity. We are all one "race", human (homo sapiens sapiens). The very phrasing "race" gives the biological idea that we are different.
@beng4647
@beng4647 8 ай бұрын
He thinks you are the problem.
@SmugAmerican
@SmugAmerican 10 ай бұрын
The establishment doesnt want the discussion to slide from identity politics too far into a discussion of class, and of war. Imagine if every American was mainly concerned with the trillions we spend waging wars.
@Bgrk
@Bgrk 10 ай бұрын
I think this would be the main opposition to this type of thought. It would mean we have to teach people about class. Which is not something your average billionaire would want to be taught. Because to become that rich you usually do that through inheritance of generational wealth. Which in a merit based society would be seen as wrong & a form of nepotism. Rich people would defund anything that teaches about class. Because they don’t want to be like the monarchies of old Europe & have all their power stripped from them.
@kp8923
@kp8923 10 ай бұрын
​@@BgrkOr their head stripped from them. Lol
@CCthekink123
@CCthekink123 10 ай бұрын
It was before 2010
@drew2pac
@drew2pac 10 ай бұрын
I did my masters research into a similar topic. The biggest factor for later life outcomes in socio-economic background at birth. Way more than race, gender, sexuality etc. I fully believe this is part of it. At uni they bang on about race etc a lot, but funny, as 99% professors are from privileged upbringings.... I always saw it as a deflection
@danieldonoghue8722
@danieldonoghue8722 10 ай бұрын
@@drew2pac I'm looking into predictors of life outcome at the moment. Particularly the effect of socio-economic upbring relative to factors focused on in DEI. Do you have a thesis I can look up? Or suggestions for good review articles on this? Thanks
@austinrhoads
@austinrhoads 10 ай бұрын
Ive been waiting to see this perspective more mainstream for a long time. Creating a better healthier future requires this kind of realism in philosophy and in policies (based on socioeconomics).
@NanaOHL
@NanaOHL 10 ай бұрын
100% if you ask most minorities how they would prefer to be judged it would be on the content of their character, you know, the thing they can control
@marvinbrown1717
@marvinbrown1717 10 ай бұрын
I'm intrigued by Coleman's argument. As someone that identifies, and is perceived by others as Black, it sucks to grapple with the idea of being a diversity acceptance. I once had a "friend" tell me that the only reason why I got into the colleges I did was because of my race. While at university, I met plenty of folks that were not very bright, just had access to lots of resources needed to be a competitive applicant, so thoughts doubt quickly dissipated (but nonetheless, I'm sure I'm not the only person of color to have to have had experience this). I do lean more towards to inequities being class base; but I also think race in America is so intrinsically tied to class/social capital, that one would be foolish not to consider race a factor. One thing I will say, I really dislike anecdotal experiences as evidence; it sounds like Coleman's childhood was a lovely "colorblind" experience, but there are plenty of folks without that said experience [and class is not a factor... please talk to children of color at independent schools]. Lastly, isn't France technically a colorblind society when it comes to social policies? And I think I read, but I am unsure, that people of color are disproportionally impacted by social inequities (for example, incarceration, health, access to capital, etc. ect.).
@woopityscoop2863
@woopityscoop2863 10 ай бұрын
^ this.
@jayl271322
@jayl271322 10 ай бұрын
What does it mean to “identify as and be perceived by others as black”? Is it different in some way to simply being black? I’m interested in your framing.
@RealDealy
@RealDealy 10 ай бұрын
This guy is really Puerto Rican, at least that is what he identifies as He even spoke against Black Americans receiving reparations under his real name, "Coleman Cruz Hughes"
@blackshard641
@blackshard641 10 ай бұрын
@@jayl271322 it's a way of speaking that highlights that race is a largely socially constructed category, not an intrinsic property. In other words, "race" is sociology, not biology. This idea might seem unintuitive to some, who might point to that fact that children strongly resemble their parents, but it's important to understand that it's our definitions (ie, the cluster of features we associate with a particular "race") that are arbitrary, and that the closer we look at the actual underlying genetics, the more these superficial distinctions disappear. The flip side of this, however, is that these very superficial qualities DO have very real social consequences.
@marvinbrown1717
@marvinbrown1717 10 ай бұрын
@@jayl271322 Sure! Thanks for the question. There are people that are racially ambiguous for example, and sometimes they maybe perceived racially than what they identify as. In the context of being Black, historically, and even today, there are people that self-identify as Black, but maybe perceived as racially something else (for example, being able to pass).
@llamalover02
@llamalover02 10 ай бұрын
I was raised to never see color, treat all others with equal respect, and to also generally be a good person. Acknowledging that we are all simply... human. I feel like recently it is now considered wrong? I still do not see how, though.
@blessingsnyder9793
@blessingsnyder9793 8 ай бұрын
👏🏽👏🏽💯Very well said
@connieconway244
@connieconway244 8 ай бұрын
I was raised the same way but am now reprimanded and schooled by others that J must look around and recognize black people to be sure that they are given priority in order to make sure they are not discriminated against. So I am being told I am being racist if I don’t look at color
@goaheadmakemyday7126
@goaheadmakemyday7126 10 ай бұрын
For the folks who think that a color blind approach would just perpetuate racial inequality, remember that since people of color are more likely to be poor, economic and class based policies would disproportionately help them. Class is the best proxy for ameliorating systemic inequality, not race.
@pudgieayer9052
@pudgieayer9052 4 ай бұрын
I'm in total agreement with Coleman... helping one group over another causes problems with groups who feel left out and abandoned.. poverty exists in every ethnic group!!
@invox9490
@invox9490 10 ай бұрын
27:30 MY GOD! THIS WAS SPOT ON! If you listen to nothing of this talk, you should DEFINTELY listen to this part. Loved it.
@freeyourmind112358
@freeyourmind112358 9 ай бұрын
Lmao imagine thinking media is showing you an unbiased real look at news and that ppl actually uploading videos of real events in real time are the ones that are lying😂
@jeremy454
@jeremy454 10 ай бұрын
This guy hits the nail right on the head when separating reality into social vs natural constructs. The more we cling to social constructs and deny natural constructs the more we set up future failure
@Karmooz
@Karmooz 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@zeitgeist888
@zeitgeist888 9 ай бұрын
Coleman gets it. He is incredibly aware and articulate in how and where we have gone wrong. If we as a society could just listen to his view and honestly change to be more colorblind we could improve the situation for everyone. Class is such a better predictor for behavior and circumstance than race ever could be yet we continue to look at race over all other factors. Great long form interview with respect for the answers Coleman gave instead of adversarial style so common today.
@angelicalee-celestine6640
@angelicalee-celestine6640 7 ай бұрын
That was exceptional! His solutions to alleviating discrimination and bias were very pragmatic and reasonable. Every American should be voting for changes like these.
@DeezScotts2023
@DeezScotts2023 9 ай бұрын
The people arguing that working toward a colorblind mindset is outdated are the same people arguing that marriage and the nuclear family are outdated, biological sex is outdated, ALL traditional values are outdated. I understand that it is an imperfect ideal, but using the fallacy of equity as the measuring stick is infinitely more flawed; applying an alternative that inconsistently encourages identity fixation in minority groups while demonizing it in the majority group through an oversimplified oppressor/oppressed analysis is so much worse, not only in that it doesn’t help the minority groups that it pretends to, regressing them back towards our base tribal instincts and alienating them from personal agency, but it actually has the inverse impact of encouraging identity fixation in the majority group due to its patently unfair application. Colorblindness has a uniting quality, despite its imperfection, while DEI initiatives and practices based upon tenets of critical theory only encourage division.
@jkellis2
@jkellis2 Ай бұрын
Why doesn't this have more views or likes...or are people too afraid to express or say the truth over what authentic progression is.
@VestaRoleplay
@VestaRoleplay 10 ай бұрын
Education and careers are supposed to be based on meritocracy and not racial discrimination.
@kathiemihindukulasuriya1538
@kathiemihindukulasuriya1538 10 ай бұрын
I wonder if part of the resistance to substituting class for race is that many Americans reject the idea of class, believing that the American dream transcends class. I grew up in the 70s and 80s and there was much more optimism around race. You had a number of shows like Good Times, The Jeffersons, Family Matters, 227 etc that really showed African Americans in a very positive light. I also remember as a child feeling that getting to know people from different backgrounds was like getting a bonus - you made a friend and you also got to learn about new foods or traditions. When I hear my college age daughter talk, there is so much concern about offending others with a different identity (race, sensuality etc), that I worry they will segregate themselves rather than get to know one another as individuals.
@henrytep8884
@henrytep8884 10 ай бұрын
What you forgot to mention is that African Americans never moved up on the socioeconomic ladder since the 70s. Of course that would make them resentful, and White people collectively became extremely rich especially the boomers. It’s because the reality in outcome in long run needs answer on the racial outcome disparity. But as far as people making friends with other groups, minorities do it all the time. We don’t have a problem making friends with other race, especially in America.
@ABCish
@ABCish 8 ай бұрын
What a great interview. Calm, factual, taking time for definitions and just putting an idea out there.
@circassianlondoner
@circassianlondoner 10 ай бұрын
As someone from the North Caucasus, upon moving to an English speaking countriy, I was surprised and shocked when I found out that Caucasian in English speaking countries means "white". In the 1990s and 2000s Russia and to a certain degree still now, Caucasian meant black. Humans are one species and when I fill the nonsensical statistical form I write "human being". Thanks for this interview.
@georgecasseus6893
@georgecasseus6893 10 ай бұрын
Again I agree with basing policies on socio-economic factors more than race. That should be the direction of the United States as we mature. However, we can't ignore the massive racial inequalities that have been built over hundreds of years. Yes, we are taking strides to reduce them, but we can't completely ignore race until we can build a better foundation. I've worked in Montclair NJ, and have family there now. But it has a deep history of racial bias and racism. Montclair was a redline city that barred black Americans from owning homes there. Not so long ago. I am so glad that Mr. Hughes has had a diverse experience growing up there recently. It is a testament that a racially integrated America can work. But it hasn't always been like that. And many Montclair residents of color are still discriminated against. There must be a solution that addresses the racial disparities while promoting a future of "colorblind" America.
@Jahbu
@Jahbu 10 ай бұрын
This is why I love painting in color... both literally and metaphorically.
@Yitz42
@Yitz42 10 ай бұрын
I have debated many times about the fact that society makes such a big deal about defining people based on race and ethnicity. I am from America, which from my viewpoint is a blended country with skin color commonly being from a blend of ethnicity and races. We should be embracing that aspect of a person as a background rather then defining that as who a person is.
@kastenolsen9577
@kastenolsen9577 10 ай бұрын
I am part Chinese, Hebrew, Hindu, and Polish. My skin color came from my father and I get judged by this at first glance. Get to know someone before you judge them!
@Erok9
@Erok9 10 ай бұрын
We won't let it go, some people are far too invested in a story of suffering.
@supervegeta101
@supervegeta101 10 ай бұрын
Just as many are insistent on their story of supremacy.
@Erok9
@Erok9 10 ай бұрын
@@supervegeta101 I'd rather deal with the man who thinks he's my better than the man who thinks he's my responsibility.
@C-Mack
@C-Mack 10 ай бұрын
@@Erok9 BOOM!
@technolus5742
@technolus5742 10 ай бұрын
​@@Erok9Not responsibility, justice.
@technolus5742
@technolus5742 10 ай бұрын
@@Erok9 The men died, the sins didn't. Inequality didn't die, it's still present. The effects of wrongful actions is still present. People want to move on, but they still deal with the fallout.
@Justineyedia
@Justineyedia 9 ай бұрын
I hardly ever think about race. We all human. Human race.
@Thejericko17
@Thejericko17 10 ай бұрын
We have never lived in a color blind society. I would love it if we could but that went out the window with the 3/5th clause, Jim Crowe, redlining and several decades of race based Supreme Court decisions. To say "we should all be color blind now" is a great aspiration but alittle niave and doesn't acknowledge or admend the damage that the century+ of none color blindness caused. I think its a good intentioned goal though. I grew up just like him and then walked out into the world and realized that most people didnt grow up that way 😂🤣.
@goaheadmakemyday7126
@goaheadmakemyday7126 10 ай бұрын
Racism caused economic inequality so the way you fix that is by instituting policies that help economically disadvantaged groups, not necessarily racial groups.
@MonkeyHero
@MonkeyHero 10 ай бұрын
Im not sure how what Coleman said is in opposition with what you said. He explicitly acknowledges racism exists and what it has done to people. I only take this as a perspective framework moving forward- it does not deny racists exist and stand in opposition of vulnerable populations. But how we're working with racism now doesnt seem to be working super well lately. And i say this as a born second generation progressive hippy.
@scipdiddly
@scipdiddly 10 ай бұрын
The 1995 song "I Am Australian" by The Seekers needs a few tweeks to be turned into something universal. I'd rename it 'I am human' change the lyrics: - "we are one but we are many" to "we are one and we are many" - "we share a dream and sing with one voice" to "most of share a dream and sing with one voice" (look at you, Hamas etc.) - "I am, you are, we are Australian" to "I am, you are, we are all humans". I think colorblindness is a story that could transcend negative story types of nationalism. We are all color biased in some way or another, consciously or subconsciously, but colorblindness is a universal good story to strive towards.
@carolbonfield8622
@carolbonfield8622 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Coleman👏🏽
@sebastionheitzmann3233
@sebastionheitzmann3233 10 ай бұрын
Great interview!❤
@HWHRTT
@HWHRTT 10 ай бұрын
Thank you big think for bringing him on. THOMAS SOWELL is also amazing and brilliant and would be great to hear from
@leggoentertainment2947
@leggoentertainment2947 9 ай бұрын
Another white supremacists 🤮🤢🤮 You disgust me.
@HWHRTT
@HWHRTT 9 ай бұрын
@@leggoentertainment2947 ahh your just mad cause you are an ignorant person who can’t articulate an opinion and then just tries to throw insults that everyone has become numb to at this point because anything you don’t like is prejudice in some way instead of a different opinion and having social discourse. Take your ignorant race baiting somewhere else.
@leggoentertainment2947
@leggoentertainment2947 9 ай бұрын
@@HWHRTT nah won't bother with mental leprechauns, I know what I said and I know it's accurate. You're just incapable of critical thinking. So you eat mental filth and call it diamonds. You are their target audience, I can't help you _"soft underbelly"._
@HWHRTT
@HWHRTT 9 ай бұрын
@@leggoentertainment2947 you do you just keep on being ignorant racist yourself and deny social and political discourse and stay in your little bubble afraid someone is trying to burst it. I will keep listening to people from all walks of life with differing opinions from either side. Have a magical day
@okulusanomali9716
@okulusanomali9716 10 ай бұрын
❤ thanks for this intelligent and reasonable approach
@jarrettbobbett5230
@jarrettbobbett5230 10 ай бұрын
For me there is only one race, the human race. Humans like dogs come in all colors, shapes & sizes. It does not matter what you look or sound like but what you do & say that matters.
@connieconway244
@connieconway244 8 ай бұрын
I agree with you Jarrett but I feel like in some people’s views, I have to be inherently racist just by the fact that I am a white person. I have never felt that way but cannot say that without being attacked
@giftoflife365
@giftoflife365 10 ай бұрын
in the future, there may be a hybrid category for race selection/party/group, which would identify with an integrative, collective philosophy of race/ethnicity - it currently parallels independent party.
@kariannecrysler640
@kariannecrysler640 10 ай бұрын
I see all people as unique. Things like their birth place, language, cultures, etc are just input to help understand the person. Born traits are worthy of note, especially for physical abnormalities, not to judge but to be accommodating to it out of respect. So much of this is ill taught manners & how to see people.
@ChadZaugg
@ChadZaugg 9 ай бұрын
I love this. Thank you 🙏🏼
@johnwhite-q7s
@johnwhite-q7s 10 ай бұрын
The Anti racism movement is actually one of the most racist things i have ever seen in my lifetime
@room2growrose623
@room2growrose623 7 ай бұрын
Not just a great argument, personal experience, in depth research AND common sense solutions which have already been proven to work. Everyone agreed with MLK’s credo , “ judged by the content of character, not the color of skin.”
@runkus6136
@runkus6136 10 ай бұрын
Having a color blind philosophy works fine if the culture you live in is also color blind. The reason this cant work in many places (like America) is because we're the furthest thing from color blind and its to be expected. It was only 60 years ago that the last of the Jim Crow laws fell and some of our society is still playing catch up from that era.
@runkus6136
@runkus6136 10 ай бұрын
@@ts87777 I'll just assume you have no concept of reality and the world you live in. The KKK were still actively killing people and not being held responsible, not to mention proudly marching in their annual parade. Just because you don't see things doesn't mean they aren't there.
@djgroopz4952
@djgroopz4952 10 ай бұрын
People create and sustain culture. If you don't even aspire to live in a race blind society, then you are guaranteed never to live in a race blind society. I think much lies in our own power as modern-day citizens in regards to living in a race blind society today or the future. By the way, Coleman is not making the case that we don't see or know who's white or who's black, etc. He's making the case that we don't judge people by that. Race and history are real, but so is character and how it, like history, also impacts how we live today and in the future. I only personally vouch that character be our main characteristic in judging people, as it's a much more reliable descriptor of who a person is.
@runkus6136
@runkus6136 10 ай бұрын
@@ts87777 clearly you have no concept of reality.
@runkus6136
@runkus6136 10 ай бұрын
@@djgroopz4952 Ok I didn't say not to work towards something better, that would be ridiculous.
@motinuppi
@motinuppi 10 ай бұрын
The opposite is true, actually. I've never seen a multiethnic society work as well as it does in the USA. Everywhere else you've got tribal conflict and civil war - but in Muricah I could talk to just about anybody and we'd all get along. Racism was dead and buried up until about Obama's term when smart phones resurrected it. One of the most shocking discoveries for me was that according to the stats, police brutality happens to whites more than it does blacks. I believed the stereotype, but it turns out the facts don't bare this out... the hustlers need their clicks, to sell their books, lectures, antiracism-trainings etc. so they keep making it out like it's worse than it ever was when it truth Dr. King already won!
@xmifi
@xmifi 10 ай бұрын
In my view the reason why race still plays such high importance. It's because of politics needs a scapegoat in order to deflect from the real issues. Which the society is facing.
@PoppaCYS
@PoppaCYS 10 ай бұрын
Race has always been a prominent issue that affected people. It just was not discussed like it is now because the media always discussed it in a very controlled and sanitized way. Social media has allowed for people's actual viewpoints to be expressed and discussed. If at this point you don't believe the forced migration, chattel slavery, Jim Crow, racist US economic programs/policies/law, denial of voting rights, over-policing, etc are all factors that have contributed to racial disparity in America, you'll never be convinced otherwise. I do agree that many politicians on both sides use race to achieve political success.
@technolus5742
@technolus5742 10 ай бұрын
And the real issue you speak of is...?
@Azraelcruz23
@Azraelcruz23 9 ай бұрын
Honestly, if I were to give my two cents on this, I think we should stop using the term "colorblindness" and replace it with the more punchy sounding "racial abolition." It would harken back to the abolition of slavery in a way that I think both folks on the right and left could get behind. What do y'all think?
@hemlock527
@hemlock527 10 ай бұрын
There's recent research in philosophy of race suppoting a metaphysical view of race. This seems motivated in support of woke DEI politics.
@kastenolsen9577
@kastenolsen9577 10 ай бұрын
No one should deal in race, color, religeon, etc. One should see people and personalities, deal with them as such.
@michaelyoon9355
@michaelyoon9355 10 ай бұрын
You present such a great argument. Social media has its pros and cons... And then if you regulate it, that sets a dangerous precedent.
@michaelyoon9355
@michaelyoon9355 10 ай бұрын
Yea, 2010-2014 was my college years and I didn't understand it then because I was late to getting smart phone but it was revolutionary for better or worse.
@michaelyoon9355
@michaelyoon9355 10 ай бұрын
They also had occupy wall street then too.
@breal7277
@breal7277 10 ай бұрын
To quote American comedian Dennis Gaxiola, "G-d knew what he was doing when he made us a bit different". People just don't get it. We don't ignore the color of our skin, we embrace it. We don 't use the color of our skin to separate us, we use it to unite us. And that is the challenge, right there!
@Cm-ni6wv
@Cm-ni6wv 9 ай бұрын
What? Skin color is so unimportant and boring. Who cares.
@LukaSzent
@LukaSzent 10 ай бұрын
Really glad you let Coleman on and didn’t give into wokeism like TED.
@KirillSkobelev
@KirillSkobelev 10 ай бұрын
Remote filming 👏
@mrcuttime22
@mrcuttime22 9 ай бұрын
Excellent discussion. I feel I should point out that not even Star Trek managed to imagine a colorblind or gender-neutral (I prefer individualistic or egalitarian) society. Alien-ism simply replaced the role of ethnicity and gender on each series, as each alien race was differentiated from humans, sometimes benignly, sometimes not. Most blatant were McCoy's (and others') recurring repulsion about Vulcans' "pointed ears." (I think he even "damned" them a couple of times!) And once race became a matter of "pride," which used to be a "sin," there was NO putting the genie back in that bottle.
@herrvierkoetter
@herrvierkoetter 10 ай бұрын
thanx Mr. Hughes, just got your book, looking forward to reading it. Great ideas and examples for discourses. Also good for starting an argument in many circumstances ... Dangerous thoughts, though. Reminded me on some discussions in Naomi Klein's 'Doppelgänger'.
@nopenop1495
@nopenop1495 10 ай бұрын
In societies built on white supremacy and lopsided class dynamics favoring the wealthy, colorblindness hurts not only BIPOC but also the rest of the working class. The ruling class has some folks fighting a race war to distract from the class war. It just so happens that BIPOC are disproportionately working class and therefore harmed by the ruling class and the systemic barriers that their wealthier and non-BIPOC peers benefit from to varying degrees.
@Smile200-z4y
@Smile200-z4y 10 ай бұрын
Not every cause of disparity is race related. That is my main gripe with identity politics, whuch is the fallacy that because we are comparing two different races/genders/ages whatever that that is the cause of the disparity
@wuziq
@wuziq 10 ай бұрын
i think you both would agree with coleman then, that policies focusing on socioeconomics make the most sense
@nopenop1495
@nopenop1495 10 ай бұрын
@@Smile200-z4yhence my mention of class dynamics. I fully believe that there is no war but class war.
@williamfortune9954
@williamfortune9954 10 ай бұрын
Coleman’s idea is great for ancient times when people identified with geography. Now it has been over 600 years since Europeans developed and classified people by race. To use this now in America is hardly possible to address concerns. There will still need to be a class for Natives and Freedmen to appropriately address their concerns. Colman is against that though. I also agree with the premise but think it does not match reality
@vickygreenplate113
@vickygreenplate113 10 ай бұрын
I like this. I feel this way also. I want this book.
@sharimcclaskey59
@sharimcclaskey59 7 ай бұрын
100% on point!!
@Gettingitreal
@Gettingitreal 9 ай бұрын
Your roots are everything, your colouring means nothing.
@tymoline2
@tymoline2 10 ай бұрын
Everyone in American should watch this video, we could learn a thing or two
@leonardo.1024
@leonardo.1024 10 ай бұрын
I thought the comment about "preserving the racial innocence of children" was a great one, and much of the media for children takes that approach; generally with at least somewhat racially varied groups of humans and often wildly multi-morphic (diversely shaped) cartoon characters. Unfortunately, as with his comparative example here, the poor separation of and blurring of existing lines between adult and children's content makes it a losing battle - if the parents are even aware or trying to fight it.
@festusidimi8942
@festusidimi8942 10 ай бұрын
This is incredible
@Vandelgard
@Vandelgard 10 ай бұрын
Politics is poisoning humanity in general
@LunchboxGaming
@LunchboxGaming 10 ай бұрын
It always was a class issue... You guys just seeing that now?
@ariadgaia5932
@ariadgaia5932 10 ай бұрын
OMG! This is horrifying! I had no idea that CRT was doing THAT!!
@garymaritnez7
@garymaritnez7 10 ай бұрын
I liveD in NJ all of my young life until 30. Montclair could have changed a lot in 30 years of course, but multi-colored is not what it was when I was there.
@thedudefromrobloxx
@thedudefromrobloxx 9 ай бұрын
31:40 Welcome to like the 1990's lol. Why are traffic cameras so rare in the US
@holiver1981
@holiver1981 10 ай бұрын
Educate the kids by teaching the truth, avoiding white guilt will not lead to color blindness
@mvjboj101
@mvjboj101 10 ай бұрын
26:46 “Gooder” 😂
@DaddyOfTheSugarVariety
@DaddyOfTheSugarVariety 10 ай бұрын
I'm color blind in every sense.
@JPBerkleeDude
@JPBerkleeDude 10 ай бұрын
While I do agree in theory with what Mr. Hughes is saying, for example about the woke kindergarten, the children will grow up and find out that they are raced beings regardless of any kind of curriculum for example. To imply that is one of the only methods of imbuing the concept of race is short sighted in my opinion. I would love to be able to live in a world where people were truly color blind, but I am aware enough to see the the problems that the non-color blind world has put in place in the past.
@kastenolsen9577
@kastenolsen9577 10 ай бұрын
Social media. Bain to the social growth of humanity.
@KaraHirdman
@KaraHirdman 10 ай бұрын
Excellent… agree
@knifehandz
@knifehandz 10 ай бұрын
Yeah Cole!
@apple1231230
@apple1231230 9 ай бұрын
isn't it interesting that this video isnt able to pick up traction? Maybe truly and genuinely people aren't interested in clicking a title which is very provocative and attacks the status quo. Based on my understanding of human psychology and learned IRL environment through going to college and working at bars, the majority of young people seem quite passionate about this topic. Could this POSSIBLY be a behind the curtain suppression of content? Or do you think people are genuinely uninterested in this type of video, to the degree that it's getting 1/10th this chanels typical-ish view count. Does this seem like the kind of video to achieve 10% click rate compared to the norm? Maybe IM wrong and this is indeed a boring video. or maybe they're shadow suppressing it (youtube that is, not the channel) Great video though, pretty basic IMO. When you see other human think "this other human, treat like human" very basic cave man stuff. You can acknowledge you have underlying biases and all that, but just try you're best to treat them like a walking brain that happens to have some immutable features which they had no control over and says nothing inherently about them. thats probably better than "ok lemme just classify every single race i encounter and treat them all differently according to science"
@ShawnRitch
@ShawnRitch 10 ай бұрын
I don't know about any of you all out there, but there really is only one race -- the human race. Also, I find people that get hung up on / discriminate against ethnicity -- shady. Pun intended
@MrJ1S
@MrJ1S 10 ай бұрын
Red light cams are there to make money. Abolish them
@kastenolsen9577
@kastenolsen9577 10 ай бұрын
Education is the key to equality and prosperity. Why has education funding been cut every year. Now, there are kids that can't read or do math with a diploma! What has happened to america?
@horsepowerdude
@horsepowerdude 10 ай бұрын
Not sure why people think his ideas are new. His ideas are about as mainstream as baseball and apple pie until critical race theory and woke kindergarten poisoned the waters.
@marwar819
@marwar819 9 ай бұрын
Such an excellent way out of the race war and our deeply divided country. Unfortunately, a lot of black people don't want peace. Maybe whites too, I don't know. Thank you!!
@Juicemunkey1010
@Juicemunkey1010 10 ай бұрын
Colour blindness is essential to the future, the focus on inalienable features will be the downfall of the west
@LI-pm3mh
@LI-pm3mh 10 ай бұрын
10:26 This guy doesn’t know what he is talking about at all. Race was created by this guy: François Bernier (1625-1688) is believed to have developed the first comprehensive classification of humans into distinct races which was published in a French journal article in 1684, Nouvelle division de la terre par les différentes espèces ou races l'habitant, New division of Earth by the different species or races
@PoppaCYS
@PoppaCYS 10 ай бұрын
I agree... LOL... I stopped the video at around this point. The US government's concept of race and race-based legislation and policies DID NOT start with Nixon.
@craigmerkey8518
@craigmerkey8518 10 ай бұрын
I admit I cringed a lot watching this... however I recognize staying comfortable inside my bubble can be damaging. We don't need to agree on everything, but we do need to be open to listening.
@everythingisfine9988
@everythingisfine9988 9 ай бұрын
Victim training 101
@harrison1671
@harrison1671 10 ай бұрын
Long story short, racism and sexism is bad. Reverse racism and sexism is still racism and sexism. This is common sense to me, but common sense isn't common.
@dcla6003
@dcla6003 10 ай бұрын
How do you give a definition of race without mentioning the impact and historical context that the transatlantic slave trade had and continues to have on the social construction.
@ljsmooth69
@ljsmooth69 10 ай бұрын
Well somebody doesn't know why we have different days that's because the years and generations that go on after a certain amount of time there are extra days and hours within that time creating different calendar days that in the hundreds of decades to come will the calendar will be changed to a the time differential within the day from our planet orbiting our star
@marvinbrown1717
@marvinbrown1717 10 ай бұрын
I'm not sure I'm following. I think the point is, that yes, it started off as scientific (Earth's orbit around the Sun). But for example why does February get the extra day for leap year, instead of March for example (nothing truly scientific about that). Or why have months at all, wouldn't we just count the days and time (which is technically 365 days 5 hours 48 minutes and 56 seconds... then we wouldn't have to account for leap year every 4 years).
@ljsmooth69
@ljsmooth69 10 ай бұрын
@@marvinbrown1717 well it's not just about leap year it's about the extra hours. That we gain but why to your question of why certain days have less days or more days I couldn't tell you because I wasn't the one that made it up that way. Has and for having months it's a way to bookmark a Pacific event that might be happening and you can label it under that month and that day at a certain time. There's some other reasons why they are categorized in months but most of it's for filing purposes in my own opinion .
@sidpomy
@sidpomy 10 ай бұрын
His point was we constructed each month to have the days that it does, and even to have 12 of them - not that a year isn't ~365.25 days long. It certainly wasn't the best or most apropos example, but I don't think it was entirely invalid in making his point.
@edwardt4283
@edwardt4283 10 ай бұрын
We had colorblind philosophy, before BLM.
@runkus6136
@runkus6136 10 ай бұрын
Not in America we didn't. Ever heard of the K-K-K?
@Isaac_blingz
@Isaac_blingz 10 ай бұрын
Very intelligent man, i see myself in him kind of
@burnonedown2day
@burnonedown2day 9 ай бұрын
🔥👊🔥
@alexatedw
@alexatedw 9 ай бұрын
A month tracks the moon cycles….
@georgecasseus6893
@georgecasseus6893 10 ай бұрын
I can agree with him on color blindness policies that are focused on socio-economic factors. I want that. But it doesn't address the impact of racial bias by law enforcement or the systematic racism that affected these marginal groups in America.
@KayySame
@KayySame 9 ай бұрын
Being colorblind to me is akin to minimizing or forgetting historical trauma from US slavery and the Native American genocide, so where can the idea of not dismissing those fit in here?
@russelgriffin2709
@russelgriffin2709 9 ай бұрын
Oh, not at all. You acknowledge it. You embrace it. You learn from it and integrate it into wisdom. You empathize with the experience of your ancestry. You bring it forward into your understanding of others' current, and past, difficult histories throughout the world. You don't forget, but you let go, move forward, live in the world with love. The "bad" people in the world, past-present-future, will not go away. You can live knowing both worlds of acceptance and discrimination co-exist. You do not dismiss this knowledge. Meanwhile, you choose how you will live "your" life.
@nn-NeuralNetwork
@nn-NeuralNetwork 10 ай бұрын
Strong
@NiktheGreek7
@NiktheGreek7 10 ай бұрын
i wont go into racial politics, i'll leave that to others, but what Coleman says that months having different # of days is random is very very wrong. It comes down from all the various calendars of ancient civilisations down to both the Julian and afterwards Gregorian calendars trying (and in some regards succeeding and in some regards failing) to emulate and/or +demarcate the Earth's elliptical orbit around the sun for society to work/function, for bureaucracy and/or farming to function, to basically give humans the means and ability to track down something intangible (the seasons) into something tangible so that farmers know when to saw and when to reap, for animal stock farmers to know when to winter their animals and when to breed them and so on and so forth, which is why we (under the Gregorian Calendar) have leap years, b/c the Earth is not moving around the sun in a perfect circle, it is an elliptical orbit as well as the fact that said elliptical orbit also changes tilt every so many years and so the amount of time down to the minutes and seconds is not always the same amount every year. The calendar much like much of everything else is very much a human social construct in order to make sense of something that can't be touched or 'seen' but something that plays a critical, pivotal role in our lives. The Earth's orbit. Nothing and I mean nothing in the calendar and/or the amount of days in each month is random by any meaning of the word random.
@Apeiron242
@Apeiron242 10 ай бұрын
Hughes 2024!
@califomia
@califomia 10 ай бұрын
If you want to hear a heavier interview, head to Sam Harris.
@woopityscoop2863
@woopityscoop2863 10 ай бұрын
While I somewhat agree with his position, some of the context he’s talking about here seems a bit suspect…
@marie-joseekelly2602
@marie-joseekelly2602 10 ай бұрын
What context are you referring to?
@SK-hj8ss
@SK-hj8ss 10 ай бұрын
Coleman not towing the line.
@Anonymous-uw4sr
@Anonymous-uw4sr 10 ай бұрын
Doesn't work though
@thebroterioncollection851
@thebroterioncollection851 10 ай бұрын
By lacking any background in the disciplines that generated these conversations (philosophy [metaphyscis, phenomenology], psychology, sociology, etc), he has no idea what he’s talking about and simply occupies the apologist space that favors contemporary white conservatism in the US. Feigns some weird objective positivism without being clear on the competing agendas that’s he’s serving. Always great when people live in their normative vacuum.
@skaaaaaaa
@skaaaaaaa 10 ай бұрын
Do you recognize that you employed an appeal to authority as the basis of your comment? I understand that is the sinplest way to engage with him, to relegate him to the lowly commoners who foolishly think themselves capable of philosophy.. I can't also help but notice your reference to "competing agendas". In your worldview do you reduce everyone and everything to a game-theoryesque elimination game? Perhaps you wokesters should look in the mirror and realize you have become the neobourgeois you purport to despise.. just food for thought.. All the best
@robertdouglas8895
@robertdouglas8895 10 ай бұрын
The way to not see physical characteristics as determiners of opinions is to forgive all of those people who actually never hurt you but you think they did.
@checkYourDiet
@checkYourDiet 8 ай бұрын
Reconstruction was never finished so colorblindness is impossible.
@jamesigoe
@jamesigoe 10 ай бұрын
Sounds nice in theory, but will appeal to racists, and more particularly to white, conservative, wealthy men, e.g., Ackman, Musk...
@ShawnRitch
@ShawnRitch 10 ай бұрын
Sorry Coleman but there is a scientific explanation of the days, months and years. It's not some random social construct. Next time, do your research before trying to explain / relate terms as you did here. It makes you look ignorant, and you clearly are not. Otherwise, good interview / discussion.
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