Is RINSING your ALLOY WHEELS first DUMB?

[@PaulDoldenDetails]

Once again Jon I think it’s a common sense approach if it’s a 4x4 covered in mud then rinse also I think it’s habit more than a process good video Jon Happy Easter 🐣

[@DavidC1]

And your approach has been torn 6 ways to Sunday on the detailing forums! If it’s moderately dirty it doesn’t need rinsing first, chemicals have to penetrate the water first! And you dilute them more!

[@TruckerMatty93]

I use vp bilberry. Always apply to a dry wheel as per the instructions. Usually use it at 7:1 but depends on the wheel. Removes 90% of the dirt with the pressure washer. I've applied it to a wet wheel and it hardly touches it. So always apply to a dry wheel.

[@zeusofall5607]

Jon, great forensic analysis again! Loved your vid on the “Why RINSING your car with water first is DUMB”. I think the same applies with the wheels with at least one caveat though . As you already know no pressure wash/foam is going to remove that ingress iron/brake dust on any wheel. My diamond cut when I first purchased required several applications with an iron/brake dust remover with some scrubbing. Ever since I have used Williams Racing Heavy Duty Non-Acidic Wheel Cleaner without the need to scrub, just pressure wash off. It works delicately on diamond cut wheels like those on BMWs, so as long as you follow the instructions it works! Application on dry is best like you concluded! No associations, just a very happy customer.

[@Chris11122]

I've only recently changed to no pre-rinse. As others have said it saves some water/electric/time, which is always a winner. Keep up the good content Jon!

[@HarpersCarDetailing]

If there’s just brake dust then I’ll spray the wheel cleaner or fallout remover on first dry; if there’s visible thick mud then I will rinse it off beforehand 👍🏼

[@MrRugbyplayer8]

I’ve got much better results both on wheels and panels by going straight in with the pre wash/snow foam/ detergent etc and then blasting off rather than pre- rinsing.

[@jasonbanks86]

I have friends who think I’m crazy with the level I go to for cleaning my car, but also same said people can’t understand how there cars never looks as good when they do a traditional hosepipe and sponge job.

[@Captainrave]

In the same way that you recommend not rinsing before prewash, it’s the same principle with wheels. You’re only diluting the product and reducing contact with the surface.

[@zackbell8782]

Have a maintenance client with complicated/intricate Toyota TRD matte wheels. Always had a tough time getting them 100% even with iron remover and wheel acid. One day I decided to presoak them dry and a couldn't believe how much easier it was to get them 100% . There's definitely merit to spraying chems on dry surfaces.

[@tonymontana897]

Some great comments regarding this. It really is common sense. If you have mud etc, then yes, you would pressure wash first. If it's just normal road grime, then don't bother wasting water. Just pre soak it, allow to dwell then rinse. After all you will be doing a contact wash anyway, so the amount of dirt removed from the initial wash is negligible.

[@css172]

I love Bilt Hamber AutoFoam and it smell's nice too! I changed to snowfoam without a prewash on the paintwork so will try the same with the alloys next time.

[@dillanmistry]

A good way to wheels is to spray the wheels lightly with product, wheel cleaner, apc etc then snow foam the whole car down, then rinse the wheels then go ahead brushing and cleaning then rinse. Then you can wash the car, that’s what I do but only lightly because you don’t want it to sit for too long

[@colinw1591]

Good review Jon. I guess if there's nothing in it, pressure washing the arches first is simply wasting water. ps. Whilst the wheels looked clean, you appear to have quite a bit of moss in your block paving! 😂

[@lifeslooker]

Totally agree Going with foam dry is better. Another fly in the detailing ointment, is mixing snow foam with water first before attaching to the lance. I’d use near, since the snow foam will misc with water anyway. This means the previous way of doing it means you dilute the snö foam twice. Defeating the object of getting good coverage to get the dirt off effectively, and with a more powerful combo of product. Don’t be right with it. Use it like you mean it

[@DjNikGnashers]

Thanks for the video Jon. Personally I would never expect foam to wash wheels by itself to any great success. I always do my wheels first, and I blast out the arches and blast the wheels first with the Karcher. Then I use BH auto wheel and use an auto smart wheel brush for the face, and barrel brush for the rest, before Karcher rinsing, and then I blast the arches and wheels with foam when I do the rest of the car. If you want great results I don't think you can time-save / short-cut wheel cleaning. The people who say it's wasting water blasting first, are usually the ones with dishwashers, hot tubs, and garden sprinklers to keep their lawns immaculate lol, the amount of water used to pre blast is nothing. I have tried both methods and find I still have some dirt if I don't pre rinse, as brake dust is horrible stuff so best to get as much off by blasting first, and then wheel cleaner and proper wheel brush.

[@contra1]

While using iron removers (but only for this particular case), I think it is better to prerinse the wheels to make sure that they are cold and somewhat soaked. I have seen that the unpainted brake calipers rust due to those chemicals not be easily removed from the surfaces they end up on.

[@skodakatie7341]

I fully agree Jon, even if the vehicle is really dirty, going on dry, the snow foam has more bite, it is going to be rinsed off anyway before any contact is made, so apart from the mental reassurance that more rinsing equals less chance of scratching, I would favour the going on dry method, in fact that is what I will be doing from now on, even though I was formally a rinse, rinse and more rinse kind of girl lol 😆.

[@robertwhyte3435]

When you rinse first, water soaks into the dirt and whatever cleaner you're using has to displace the water to be effective. Generally it's best to spray cleaners, even car wash soap on a dry surface. Also, it's a better idea to spray cleaners from the bottom up so that deactivated/used cleaner doesn't run down onto a dirty surface and block the dirt from fresh cleaner being sprayed on. One of the exceptions to this rule is some fabrics, particularly cloth soft tops. In that case it's better to wet the cloth first so you attenuate the action of the cleaner and make rinsing all the cleaner out of the fabric easier. You really notice how important it is to spray from the bottom up when spraying cleaner on leather seats.

[@DiiZeh_]

A Surfex HD pre-wash on the wheels before any form of contact is my go to method. We all pre-wash the paintwork - so why not treat the wheels the same?🤟🏻

[@walenrod17]

My the same! What dilution do you use surfex for wheels?

[@DiiZeh_]

@@walenrod17 I just eye ball it - but approx 50-100ml in a 500ml bottle.

[@jezlucas3878]

​@@walenrod17 I use it at 10% on wheel's and tyres

[@andrewsaint6581]

Great question. I'm a little and often, chemical first person. Interesting to see your take on this. Cheers. I teach driving in UK so my vehicle is my shop front. Wheel chemical first, while that bites, swap lance ends for good clingy snow foam including the wheels to ensure no drying out and kill the reaction, while that grabs and drags I agitate wheels by noodle mitt and bucket of water (deep with grit guard) swap lance back rinse and hand-wash. (different mitt) and rinse. Clay, polish or water repellent treatment after that subject to available time.

[@sebster6031]

Not bad m8!

[@Twizz1979]

Fantastic! I've tried this a few times and am finding I like going straight to pre foam first! Love it! New topic to explore... What if, for the contact wash - foam the car, and in my bucket have a rinseless solution (like N-194.) Vs in my bucket having shampoo. Hypothesis is the snow foam on the car is doing the degresing type work and the rinseless solution in the bucket is adding lubrication, water softener, pulling dirt off the wash mitt and dirt encapsulation in the bucket.

[@jonnybravo3055]

I think snow foam paint work dry like you said on a previous video. But Wheels are different in my opinion because they have no pre wash as you clean your alloys 1st. That means you are rubbing break dust and dirt into your wheels. I tend to rince them 1st even it only removes a small amount of dirt. Probably the best way is to use a wheel cleaner, soak and rinse with no contact 1st. It could start getting time consuming and expensive then though. In all honesty my wheels never get that dirty anyway.

[@asherzz26]

I was in deep belief that a pre wash was always best until you did the other test and has completely changed the way I detail the car now and I’m straight to snow foaming rather than rinse and I stand by that now using the same theory, it feels less “scratchy” doing a contact wash as I’m by the seaside it’s mostly salt, sand and tar film

[@TheFootballDude18]

The PIR is slightly reduced, when rinsing becausentheres more water on the surface already, right? That’s basically why pre rinsing isnt always the way to go. I usually go in dry, like you John🤠

[@paul.tuttle]

been there - done that. I do it this way only because you're right: much cleaner without pre rinse. Even my way for a quick wash without contact wash, when I got not much time to clean. Sort of: Wash and go :-)

[@jezlucas3878]

Jon, I use hand sprayer with surfex at 10% onto wheels first ,let it soak then do tyre. Then with ez wheel brush/ detail brush and shampoo then clean barels ,rinse Follow up with fall out if needed . No idea what iam doing really, just how I do it

[@pfgdetailing]

Interesting video, would have liked to see a fallout remover over a foam wash, or even a dedicated wheel cleaner. I don’t pre-rinse cars anymore after your last video but, I will in hot weather to cool the panels down!

[@robsmith7430]

I agree I’ve used fallout remover on dry wheels then rinsed off and I find I get better results than just snow foam

[@U2SuzyQ731]

Jon, I FINALLY learned how to wash my car!!! I was pre rinsing and it NEVER seemed to get clean even though I was using snow foam and hand washing! Today no pre rinse, just snow foam, and hand wash, rinse and dried. It came out AMAZING. I don't pre rinse tires either!! I'm a believer! I've seen the light...I mean shine!!

[@ForensicDetailing]

the chems work better without soaking it with water first. not everyone believes me, and you could argue none of its important but its true.

[@U2SuzyQ731]

@@ForensicDetailing . It worked for me. I couldn't understand why the car wasn't getting clean and in the end the road film was still apparent.

[@HellzHonour]

There are some wheel cleaners that tell you not to pre rinse with water first so it works better.

[@79blustone]

Personally I think its a more logical thing to do, I do this method and it just sits better with me to snowfoam on dry, of anything else you've given your contact wash a better chance by allowing the paint to soak without being saturated with water first. I'm on board with the snowfoam method on dry paintwork.

[@andrewlee109]

I came to the realisation a while ago not to rinse before I either snow foamed or used the traffic film remover it’s the same with the wheels so in conclusion I agree rinsing before a wash is absolutely ridiculous and gives better results. My go to cleaners are to use pro kleen snowfoam then bucket wash with pro kleen shampoo excellent results every time. Another great video 👍

[@PolishedandWaxed1]

For me a pre rinse is always advisable. As a business, car may be arriving after a long drive. Rinsing the wheels and whole car will cool all surfaces. For me that's more important than how much more cleaning happens. Chemicals and hot surfaces don't mix so our training will always be rinse first. Also tested this many moons ago and found the opposite results to what ur getting, pre rinse provided better results (but different chemicals and pressure washer used)

[@kwl189]

John. Try Surfex HD at 5-10% depending on the alloys dirt. Trust me. It is the dogs bollocks. Let it soak in the alloy dry without pre rinsing for 5 minutes and then rinse free. Always apply some protection on the alloys like polar seal or TW dry and shine. Really helps a lot. For those with money, gyeon wet coat is superb. Use an applicator for best results. I promise you John, this makes life bearable when it comes to cleaning alloys for me. You will use less product as well spraying it on, instead of snow foam

[@SuperchargedLlama]

I tell ya what, from the title of the video this wasn't what I was expecting the test to be. Funny how preconceptions are made isn't it? I was expecting one side to pre-rinsed followed by a wet application of wheel cleaner and the other to have a dry application of wheel cleaner, both followed by agitation. I guess the use of Autofoam is somewhat similar to cleaning with Garage Therapy Wheel Shampoo via a pump foamer. Either way, dry application of whatever cleaner you choose seems to be the winner again (as has been my experience too).

[@DavidC1]

Jon i use autofoam in a pumpfoamer at 100:1 and it works great

[@SuperMattyb83]

I've done both-water Pre water Pre rinse and without and I 100% agree that a straight snow foam without Pre rinse gives much better results. Wheels test next

[@bryanvlogs1421]

I always apply a APC before doing any kind of rinsing does a better job of actually cleaning before going in with Brake Buster for the contact wash.

[@rogerandout808]

I suspect without contact washing the finger test will nearly always show dirt. I reckon the the water used for the rinse goes into the barrels and then as it flushes back, the loose dirt draws back from deep in the barrel with it. But for what it's worth I think that it's better to go dry when you can, but I kind of do foam, rinse, fall out remover, shampoo/contact.

[@jasonmjonesuk]

My wheels are ceramic coated and hence I can normally get them mostly clean with just pressure washer water followed up with a wheel mitt and shampoo for contact needs - for arches and the rest of the car Id agree foaming without pre-rinse probably makes sense

[@hashaampiracha3712]

I always use p&s knock off as a pre cleaner then rinse off before it dries. This is a chemical made for this type of use and you will be surprised how much gunk comes off compared to simply just using water. This process allows my wheel cleaners that contain iron removers work more efficiently. I would recommend you try it out to see that with p&s knock off you can use as it a touch less clean once a week and have great results leaving little to no contaminations on the surface.

[@sixtysecondsofstephens2386]

I think if you've got an inch of mud under the wheel arch, blast that out first as the chemical won't really penetrate through it. By the time you've done all 4 wheels they won't be absolutely soaking before you use a chemical.

[@dillingerdan]

This is very interesting results and definitely closer than the other test on the paintwork. I too think that snow foam is probably a bit of a poor choice for the test as I personally never have used just a snow foam on wheels, not unless i just skipped the wheels altogether(work vehicle). Personally I think BH Auto Wheels dry vs pre rinsed would be a good test because that can be used as a sort of touchless wheel cleaner. It should be interesting to see the difference in the fallout reaction between the sides as it should show if you in-fact made the wheel cleaner?

[@BitcoinUnderLegalLegislation]

Thank you for your analytical forensics files. Keep up the good work with the inconspicuous results underneath it all. IMO in the conclusive results, you have to touch the object to physically remove the grime. Chemicals assist but you have to physically remove it via by hand or high pressure water that may cause damage overall.

[@christycribbin889]

My go to is rinse alloy and tyre 1. ADBL tyre and rubber cleaner 2. Auto wheel or surfex 5% in pump 3. Agitate both with appropriate brushes 4. rinse and move on 😉

[@tonylyons2414]

I always start with meguires wheel cleaner then use meguires heavy duty multi purpose cleaner and spray round the rear,side Quarters where the wheels flick up road shite,front winngs front bumper,leave both to soak for a couple of minutes then presser wash wheels first then the whole car,then snow foam then contact wash pressure wash it of then dry,before drying i spray a little sonax extreme shine because it really really helps soak up the water,then put a nice bit of polish on from meguires

[@dazza_UTO]

I tend to go in with chemicals 1st let them sit then agitate with brushes etc then rinse. I also think pre-rinsing the car doesn’t make any difference. Just takes longer & uses more water. Good vid as per. 👍🏻

[@f1jr724]

Love your attempts Jon... keep up the good work fella 😊👍

[@liamneale1831]

I noticed since your first video of the pre rinse of the car it got a lot of KZbinrs talking LOL

[@richardparsons9705]

Hey Jon, happy Easter. Interesting....... My thoughts on this is to blast the wheels first with a wheel cleaner to make them 'bleed' and on dry wheels. Let it do its business and then blast off and allow to dry and then follow on with the snow foam. Reason for this is the wheel cleaners tend to be powerful so in its first initial application it would loosen up most of the 'gunk' that you want to take off. Then the snow foam should help release the left-over which hopefully would be easier to loosen.

[@Apophis-en9pi]

Loving the mad scientist vibes. Instant sub.

[@davekana8388]

I’m doing the way you say now, no pre-rinse. Seems to be just fine, save a step, save gas and time, thanks, Dave

[@aaron-jd1ds]

I go on with chemicals first more bang for ya buck. if arches are thick with dirt I'll pre jet them but otherwise I'll go chemical first

[@ForensicDetailing]

Yo that box should be with you on wed or Thursday 😁

[@aaron-jd1ds]

@@ForensicDetailing very excited Jon

[@997GURU]

You need a bigger garage 🙃 my approach is kochchemie felgenblitz on dry, cold rims, 5 minute working time, then i use my trusted wheel wollies for contact cleaning IF needed, then surfex HD 1:20 all over the car, last autofoam 4% PIR with this method, the pre-wash never fails

[@patrickvennard838]

As you say not much in it, I think most people will agree rinse before you make contact.

[@dillanmistry]

I can’t stop awing every time he past the e36

[@The_Actual_Jordan]

I think that if you spray on wheel cleaner first, that would make a difference. I always spray wheel cleaner, then snow foam, then wash, then rinse.

[@neilgraves5069]

More channels than Sky you Jon . Great though mate . Very educational .

[@derek723]

Unrelated, but I'd love to see Jon do a Water Spot remover shootout. Feel like that's the last frontier of shootouts that he has left

[@craig5066]

It depends how dirty we’re talking,if the car is washed regularly then I’d snow foam first but if it’s really muddy filthy I would jet wash and then snow foam.

[@deanwarner2006]

Simple message here, let the chemicals do their work, thanks Jon

[@klasseact6663]

On normally dirty tires/wheels....no way as the cleaners need to cling and let the ingredients work and when they're wet and apply those cleaners half the product runs off🤔

[@w3155ach]

Putting the pre wash on first also saves a little bit of water...every little helps.

[@oskartuulik633]

Nice work, keep it up 👍 Next idea: does snow foam work better when it is foamed on (foam coat) or when it is sprayed on with sprayer (just moist from detergent)

[@squilliamfreakyson]

I love these videos. Keep it up Jon!

[@adrianmonk68]

I agree John! I always go in dry 😜

[@ItsRyan.]

Would love a wheel cleaning comparison of Foamed (Lance, IK Foamer) vs Trigger sprayer wheel cleaner. Does the foam reduce the cleaning capabilities of using the same diluted product?

[@jezlucas3878]

Been thinking about that too , I use hand spray bottle and shampoo Does foam actually help

[@davestewart9146]

Great comparison Jon, now you have me thinking lol, thank you Sir 👍😁

[@jonnyshielldetailing]

Does surface cleaner for your kitchen require the sides to be wet down before you apply the chemical. We add water to dilute products, adding more water is diluting even more. Jet washing a vehicle helps to cool down any hot parts to avoid chemicals from drying out prematurely, the test is how do you compensate for the PIR. It's a non argument, so many variables including, coated wheels to non coated wheels, it's an impossible and miniscule difference that I think by the time you've finished worrying about these ideas your ready for counselling. Is this detailing or just a what if?

[@johnw8476]

Jon when did you stop using Valet Pro Bilberry in your Spear & Jackson pump sprayer? I have one (thanks to you lol) but use it for Citrus pre wash.

[@ianapriliatuono]

What about the best way to clean the carpet wheel arches John I find if they are covered in muck the best thing to do first is to use my drill brush on an extension pol , really works well on extracting the caked on muck What way do you deal with this

[@graemesmith8509]

Ive just noticed youve moved your cabinets to get your car in !!!!

[@paulblaser4146]

Thanks for all the videos and info Jon! I’ll give this a try myself, as I just tried the foam without pre-rinse and I much prefer it. And that’s in the dusty South Australian conditions which I’d have thought pre-rinsing would be the obvious choice. If you get a chance to review Meguiars Hyper Wash I’d be interested to see what you think. It’s $60aud for a gallon here and only requires 35ml in 700ml water to produce thick foam, and a similar amount for a bucket. I’m liking it so far but keen to hear your thoughts.

[@barrybij8079]

This is very interesting(maybe just to us nuts) but I tried Sonax wheel cleaner and the directions stated to spray the wheels with the product before rinsing... I have never used this product before but I was amazed at the chemical reaction (red color) I got... I don't think I ever had so much.. So was it the product being really good or the fact that it wasn't diluted with the pre rinse..not sure

[@garethdavies7564]

in my option it depends on state of the wheels i always go in with decon shampoo then fall out remover

[@alim9489]

Thank you. I would appreciate a more scientific test as this is quite important, as I think I will now change my wash routine. The point about UK climate is very relevant. I've lived in Australia for a couple of years and the road film in UK is very different. You don't need to bother with alkaline snow foams all that much in Oz (maybe Melbourne in winter) but in UK it makes a huge difference. It's very important because I suspect the same thing is true in Florida where you probably don't need a snow foam, so Matt from Obsessed Garage doesn't believe in it, which I can can understand. But he is quite influential and ppl in UK should alter his technique to add a snow foam before their car wash. There is a trade off with alkaline snow foams and effect on protection vs marring during contact wash. In my opinion in the balance of this is different in different parts of the world. But ultimately do what works and what you enjoy. Life's too short to argue, but I enjoy the process and the science of it.

[@OCDaddyZsolt]

Cool, educational video as usual. Thanks Jon. For certain wheel cleaners, it is definitely recommended to apply on dry surface (the ones with iron fallout remover especially). Having said that, are you familiar with the ADBL brand? I’ve just visited them at their HQ in Warsaw. They have piles of new products. I could hook you up with them, to get some samples to try. I’m pretty sure you would be impressed with them. Let me know.

[@martynj-c4965]

Hi Jon ...can you advise on an affordable car dryer / blower? Looked at a few ...I see Carbon Collective Air Force 1 is £150 at in2detailing ... any ideas? Thanks for all the content you post to help us guys and gals 👍🏻

[@ForensicDetailing]

Pet blower m8.

[@wildpony1957]

Kinda long video for an inconclusive result. That being said, this gave me information to ponder and make a decision on proper washing techniques. Bottom line - if it works, continue doing what you do. Thanks for the video!

[@1oldson]

if there is "not much in it" then save water and dont pre rinse i think is what this demonstrates. thats what i'll do going forward

[@maverick4177]

Pointless test using only snow foam, you would be hitting the wheels and tyres with a dedicated wheel cleaner/brushes and they would be off the car if you were doing it properly! using an apc and brushes if you were doing the arches and suspension properly as well

[@BenDavey34]

I always use chemicals on a dry wheel, same with paintwork. would of been a good to use surfex HD

[@michaeloverton3181]

Hello,can u do a video on the best drying towel for a car ,thanks

[@ForensicDetailing]

Done m8

[@squadmeta]

Surfex 8% then wash off, followed by Korrosol and brush on alloy, Surfex and brush on tyre, then wash off again. Theory is I use less Korrosol which is by far the more expensive product. All personal preference I guess.

[@RobertSmith-di5ll]

Rinse and dry? then soap? Might be a bit over the top

[@leonbradley1407]

I always pre rinse. Why work dirt into the wheels.

[@kakashi99908]

He is suggesting to spray products, rinse off then scrub with your soap and or cleaner. He is saying using water before spraying product is going to reduce effectiveness. In a sense don't pre the pre wash.

[@leonbradley1407]

@@kakashi99908 I treat wheels like bodywork. Pre rinse then apply Yr products

[@ricksteruk10]

If you have Bilt Hamber wheel cleaner, would you use that straight or after rinsing the wheel and even before or after their auto foam?

[@andhen12]

I clean my wheels like i clean my paint. Wheel cleaner on dry, rinse, then contact wash with a regular shampoo.

[@aidancleary9530]

Jon what size nozzles do you use on the k7. Great video 👍

[@stevecade857]

Even if there is little in it for cleanliness you're still saving on time, water and electricity for the extra rinse time.

[@karlruditis5615]

I tend to find the wheel cleaner doesn't have the same bite if you was to pre Rinse first.

[@thebomber5028]

Maybe a silly question but can I use meguiars wax on alloy wheels

[@Autograss100]

Yes, I do

[@thebomber5028]

@@Autograss100 lovely stuff

[@JackOfHearts42]

If the difference is so little, I think the method that uses less water should be prefered for cost & environmental reasons.

[@cartorque4202]

Pre rinse on wheels makes more sense then hit with fall out of wheel cleaner as you won't use as much product.

[@sebster6031]

Nah m8. Most iron removers work better without the dilution of being wet. Give it a try

[@nicci8964]

Hi, i was wondering what snow foam lance do you use please? And also what is the normal lance too?

[@ForensicDetailing]

Mjjc pro V2 m8

[@jim6751]

Jon where did you get your extension hose for your karcher or is that the standard length that came with it?

[@richjohnson1752]

What if you live in a sandy region, and the "dust/dirt" is fine sand particulate. Wouldn't you scratch the paint if you didn't pre rinse first?

[@josephonofrio7243]

Pre soak first and help encapsulates the sand in liquid

[@josephonofrio7243]

Blasting dry sand into the paint with a pressure washer is not good for the clear coat. Pre spraying/foaming, then pressure washing seems safer.

[@richjohnson1752]

@@josephonofrio7243 Normally what I do is lay down foam, then rinse before doing a contact wash.

[@josephonofrio7243]

@@richjohnson1752 Me too.👍

[@BMETFerg]

I noticed you have a K7 pressure washer with a spray gun. How is the Karcher quick connect adapter holding up for you? I have a K5.85 that I want to convert from the wand with attached hose to a spray gun. Do you have a video on the conversion? I know Karcher changed the pressure hose end at some point and that quick connect adapter doesn't work with all models. Also what spray gun are you using?

[@ForensicDetailing]

in2detaiingl get the SGS35 with steel and Karcher connector comes with it.

[@ptheledge5390]

To me, I always think it’s best to pre rinse wheels before doing any agitation as the thought of agitating grit and dirt around the alloy can lead to potential scratches. Pre rinsing does get rid of some dirt so can’t be a bad thing in my mind

[@woncho1]

Here my method good water rinse first then do other things, go back when is dry!?

[@LSD04]

Facts over feelings, if only everyone got this.