Is Russia's new submarine any good?

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[@ShubhayooBanerjee]

The opening scene felt like a movie

[@bakkiesleroux3111]

Are you unfamiliar with f&a?

[@ShubhayooBanerjee]

@@bakkiesleroux3111 i used to watch them from that one 7m7 video...him, mustard and yarnhub are among my most fav channels

[@TankdaT90]

@@bakkiesleroux3111 chill

[@SlovakDiplomat]

“It’s time captain.” “It’s time.”

[@neubauerjoseph]

As a navy vet I like your ship videos please keep doing them

[@uncaringbear]

If it doesn't have an onboard swimming pool, I'm not interested.

[@sleepmnan22sleepman50]

typhoon class have!

[@JustAvoidNothinghere]

It does!!! but have some Radiation in it

[@thecursed01]

​@@JustAvoidNothinghere "some" 😂

[@testiclegaming1250]

Open up a hatch underwater, now you'll get a swimming pool

[@spencercameron2980]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I was thinking that instantely. Live chickens or goats were on the typhoons sometimes. I'm only 99 on that.

[@Cougar4ik]

Boreas is the Greek god of the cold north wind, storms, and winter. IDK why, but I just love this name and can't remember anything cooler.

[@nothanks9503]

borealis the freezing fog from Elden ring

[@harryfrentz6899]

Really sends a chill down your spine, doesn't it?

[@aberdeenkiko]

Borei is the name that the ancient Eskimos, gave to the oceanic animals, nowadays commonly called as: seals.

[@stefanschleps8758]

Ha...

[@DtWolfwood]

Retired as it maybe but Ill still love the typhoon class. That baby thicc!

[@TheGrindcorps]

Only recently retired I believe. They were using the last one as a missile launch test bed.

[@adreasperpirakis208]

Do you remember the goldfish project the sub made from titanium with 45 knots speed then the torpedoes had only 40 knots speed

[@cruisinguy6024]

The typhoon was indeed impressive, from having side by side separate pressure hulls to having an actual swimming pool and sauna.

[@thecursed01]

Well it's thick because it's two submarines in one -trenchcoat- I mean outer hull.

[@rajaydon1893]

Its not exactly retired, they use it as a test bed for new stuff since it can hold practically anything they could make

[@theproceedings4050]

Cool, it's probably why the US is busy building the Ohio's replacement, the Columbia class.

[@CommanderAlscrimp]

Just like the typhoon from the Russians, both classes are getting up there in age and cost so that’s why they are building new classes

[@outdoorcooking6390]

Russia made another one and she's thick! Russia really love sub!

[@GenghisX999]

Do to technical and funding, Columbia class is not expected to be completed for service till well into the 2040s. By that time Russia and China will be well onto next gen after Boreas class. The West is two generations behind in subs and at least that in missile tech.

[@Hunter-rr5ue]

I thought this was about the Belgorod submarine

[@FoundAndExplained]

Next time!

[@TheGrindcorps]

@@FoundAndExplaineddo it on Poseidon sub/torpedo. 🙏

[@Analitique]

@@FoundAndExplainedlooking forward to Belgorod.

[@mphomosoeu6624]

@@FoundAndExplained please 🙏 do the BELGOROD Submarine NEXT.

[@rajaydon1893]

Were was that thing last seen

[@anthonyxuereb792]

The Royal Navy had trouble firing it's missiles recently.

[@dansantos1659]

Let me give a few addtional history. The Borei's, which are the product of Project "Zapad" a Soviet era submarine building program, were originallt slated to be armed with 12 R-39UTTH SLBMs. Now R-39UTTH is an improved version of the R-39 SLBM, the major difference between the two missiles is that the R-39UTTH SLBM has a greater throw weight which is 3.05 tons compared to the R-39 which is 2.55 tons, plus with newer, compact and light weight nuclear warheads which were adapted from the R-29 SLBM the R-39UTTH can carry 10 or more low yield nuclear warheads. Another difference is the accuracy, NPO Avtomatika developed the guidance system of the two missiles, the R-39 was reported to have a CEP of 500 meters, while the R-39UTTH was reported to have a CEP of 120 meters. After the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the Russians decided to move the development of the R-39UTTH was moved to Russia, the development of the first stage of missile was transfered from Yuzhmash (Ukraine) to NPO Iskra and NPO Altai, so was the second stage. The third stage was already being developed by NPO Iskra during Soviet times, the MIRV bus segment was already being developed by Kbkhm which is Russian. All three stages of the R-39UTTH were produced in the PZKHO plant in Perm in fact specialize production equipment from Pavlograd (Ukraine) were transfered to the PZKHO plant to produce the 1st stage of the missile. The first test of the R-39UTTH in Russia was on November 1993, but it was declared a failure, there was a total of 4 tests all were unsuccessful, Makeyev attributed the failure of the lack of funding in the localization of production of the 1st stage of the missile, plus the Ministry of Defence was complaining of the cost of the production of the engines. Makeyev still defended the R-39UTTH as the missile program was 70 percent complete and that they needed additional funding, the problem is that during the 90s the defense budget was so small that design bureaus were fighting over the small defense budget that available at that time.

[@argy007]

Just the presence of sauna already makes the new Borei upgrade vastly superior.

[@josephherman5790]

SLBM does NOT stand for Sea Launched Ballistic Missile but SUBMARINE Launched Ballistic Missile.

[@TinyBearTim]

It is both

[@LifeOfExo]

I was expecting the belgorod class submarine but borei class it is..

[@sharkusaurelius1591]

It wouldn’t even be an effective paperweight, it’d roll right off the paper and get everything soaking wet. Not to mention how hard it would be to fit it on a desk.

[@chillz5967]

russia bad blah blah blah

[@nothanks9503]

@@chillz5967Russians basically dark age peasants blah blah blah I’m telling you Russians are just as smart as everyone

[@PsyckoSama]

@@chillz5967 More Russia, over promises, under perform.

[@chillz5967]

@@PsyckoSama true, but I'm not gonna underestimate when it comes onto nuclear submarines.

[@rajaydon1893]

Fafo then

[@weregarurumon3202]

their crisp white sheets is still no match for the DIRTY BOOTS!

[@maxsager139]

boeing?

[@gabriellorenzana2374]

sounds like something that some certain captain would say after spending 2 years at the bottom of the sea.

[@keso_de_bola1750]

One million lives!

[@adhitya105]

S A L V A T I O N

[@scifidino5022]

*slices submarine up with the newly released Playable Arkbird Mod*

[@TBR.21]

Another great video! Love the animations. Keep up the good work (:

[@Legends526]

boreis are meant to replace delta iii and iv ssbns and later even typhoon ssbns. There are 12 boats planned

[@jamesricker3997]

With Russia's economy, how many will they be actually able to build?

[@TheGrindcorps]

@@jamesricker399712. Russia has the strongest growing economy in Europe and by PPP also the largest economy in Europe, bigger than UK or even Germany. Russia is fine.

[@ArefRichardForster-mr2qj]

Russia is less economic as Spain. Stop your Fake Informations!

[@ANDREALEONE95]

@@jamesricker3997 No.

[@ANDREALEONE95]

@@TheGrindcorps Who you think will believe in such lies?

[@ajm2872]

Is it capable of sending one ping only?

[@cideltacommand7169]

Yea Vasily

[@gmradio2436]

No, but sending more than one is a great way to attract metal fish.

[@Beavereaver]

Da comrade captain.

[@Beavereaver]

God I miss 90s movies.

[@seraphlord]

im sure is about 1/4 as capable as they claim it is XD

[@ristube3319]

13:25 My grandfather retired as “CHIEF OF NUCLEAR DESIGN” where these are designed and built! It’s Groton/New London, CT

[@crankychris2]

Best subs in the world! Wish they could build them a little quicker tho, the last Virginia class sub took 2 years.

[@ristube3319]

@@crankychris2 My name is Chris too!

[@absiddique139]

The Grafix work is nice.

[@mphomosoeu6624]

I love your work. Keep up the good work 👏. And thanks 😊 for keeping geopolitics from your channel. Ur channel is about technology, not politics. I hope ur channel will grow even bigger.

[@dansantos1659]

Ah the Bulava controvercy, Yuri Solomonov made a lot of enemies at Makeyev for what he did. The R-39UTTH was basically exposed to the chaos of the breakup of the Soviet Union.

[@DylanPelzer-lq7oy]

I have a suspicion this thing is going to turn out like a lot of Russian subs and equipment: It's pretty decent and quiet when it rolls off the assembly line, but then it will gradually become a noisy, hellish chum-bucket due to the ludicrous amounts of corruption and graft in the Russian navy. Even the best sub in the world will become nothing more than a billion dollar liability if it doesn't undergo routine maintenance, which the navy, and Russian armed forces at large, seem to be highly allergic to, which ultimately does nothing but make them easy targets for enemy nations.

[@user-dg9hq8uz3g]

The submarine fleet is kept in good condition, because it's the most important part of the navy.

[@DylanPelzer-lq7oy]

@@user-dg9hq8uz3g That certainly makes sense, and for the sake of the submariners I bloody well hope so. If you're going to be stuck in a metal tube for months on end, you at least want it to be relatively safe, comfortable, and above all, functional. I don't understand why the Russian military kept that floating dumpster-fire known as the Admiral Kuznetzov around. They should have sold the damn thing to China or India like they did with their others and focused more on building even better and sexier submarines.

[@RandomAussie-dx9fj]

Any chance you could do a video just on escape pods and ejector seats?

[@s87343jim]

That would be cool

[@cideltacommand7169]

Sub escape capsules are dubious, look what happened to the kursk

[@RandomAussie-dx9fj]

@@cideltacommand7169 I know but they’re cool

[@Insert-Retarded-Reply-Here]

@@cideltacommand7169that’s because the compartment was flooded before the escape capsule could be reached. It’s still a good idea

[@jaredcreel-sx6mz]

I'd love to see new submarine videos from you, the ones you've made so far are excellent!

[@CBD-Life-South-Africa]

Is also to compliment their special ocean floor class of submarines stationed around Ukraine? Alot of new submarine deployments there lately😂. And judging by everything else Russia says, dial back by 80% to get the realistic data. They always overstate data.

[@TheJessfletcher17]

South Africa judging other countries 😂

[@cideltacommand7169]

​@@TheJessfletcher17SA cant even deal with somali pirates, what are they gonna do against a nuclear submarine

[@yogi6917]

"Stealthier than any other submarine ever built" As someone who spent more than half of my adult life under the Atlantic Ocean, I'm gonna have to disagree. BUT! Sure!

[@tonikakueumlixo7817]

Would it be possible to make a video about the cycle car that Russia was developing a few years ago? Would be used in military applications

[@a.p.2703]

As a Russian, I have to thank you for a bias-free approach to the story! In Russia, we typically try to be objective when comparing "us vs. them" in arms and all, admitting strong points opponent products may have. It's pleasing and refreshing to see you do the same. Like!

[@user-qg1mw5tz1q]

great to see a video on a submarine!

[@pauldean8638]

Russians don’t even need to get close with a sub , it just sends Poseidon 2,000km to sit off waiting to go bang . It makes Phuket tsunami look like a ripple in a pond

[@Jimmy-qc5lb]

Good stuff well done

[@kevinbarry71]

When the Russians tell you about their new weapon systems; it would be wise to be rather skeptical

[@kurtwinter4422]

The Russian military is large and modern. The modern part isn't too large and the large part isn't modern

[@smitajain2420]

​@@napoleonfeanor just like their population. They have the largest landmass still tiny population

[@waitfor2050]

Although you're probably right, it's probably better to overestimate your opponents, just to be safe.

[@fbboringstuff]

Bet you were kackling a few years ago when they were finishing off hypersonic missiles. Tech America gave up but are now racing to catch up on.

[@kevinbarry71]

@@fbboringstuff are you insane? Those things are shot down regularly. A whole bunch of nonsense

[@user-ge1kx7ot6t]

Really good video mate

[@nickbunch9156]

How bout a comparison of super power submarines and how they stack against each other

[@CIS101]

As of 13:26 I just realized that's the Washington Monument on the left for scale etc.

[@RaptorMediaGRP]

legend has it that this sub has free parking next to the Kursk

[@andyhuang1766]

1:30 Does anyone know what craft those soldiers are hopping out of? Looks like a landing craft but I can’t make heads or tails.

[@mryan3123]

The Borei’s next iteration, Project 955B, has already been cancelled for failing to meet “the cost/efficiency criterion.” Casting yet further doubt on Borei’s future are reports that the Russian Navy will not be moving ahead with its last two Borei submarine orders, scheduled for the mid 2020’s.

[@user-dg9hq8uz3g]

They are literally preparing for creation of 2 more boreis at sevmash. I work here, so i know.

[@LastGoatKnight]

Bruh, the radar ping in the intro scared me😅. I'm at the bus station waiting for my bus to arrive and I thought someone honked at me😅😂 Oh, and I don't fear the Russian armed forces more than any other one. But that high is because of the raw numbers they can force into war

[@cideltacommand7169]

That active sonar ping scared you ? Enjoy a triconderoga shooting off its active sonar while your swimming at the beach The results are mind blowing

[@memeboy8207]

Jokes on you that was a land submarine

[@LastGoatKnight]

@@cideltacommand7169 I know what you try to say to me

[@moosecat]

Even if the Kursk had had an escape pod like that shown on the Borei-class boats, the sad reality is that most--if not all--of the Kursk's crew would have still died on board. I'm not sure if those who survived the initial explosion (and gathered in the stern sections) could have made it to the pod.

[@Raj-Agnihotri1]

Please make a video on yasen class submarine vs alreigh burke destroyer

[@cideltacommand7169]

Yasen would just not bother engaging it tbh

[@Majd_Saad]

3:42 is where the ad ends

[@TinyBearTim]

Why would you put the escape pod on top of the reactor

[@jnrfalcon]

Service on WES aren't supposed to excursions... they are bought as supplement rolling stocks to support the Colorado Railcars. But yeah, they are rarely used I think... I've never seen them anywhere but at their yard.

[@Gho73t]

What's the name of the song at 07:00?

[@dataman6744]

@6:35 makes it sound like Kursk didnt have a rescue pod

[@deniss2786]

You used a wrong picture for Alexander Nevskiy! That's Alexander III!

[@user-yp4hm5km2c]

Wow !!! Respect, Bro! :))😃🤟🤟🤟

[@user-qs3td3js3h]

Bro its the k329 belgorod thats the largest and the most powerful that has A posieden torpedo which can lead a 500 foot tsunami

[@rogerk6180]

Alegedly lol....

[@xenondead]

These Torpedos problably not even work or just a big misinformation capain i dont think they have the yield to produce such a wave even multiple will not do such big waves but yeah coastal city with bigger harbors could be in danger 😅

[@vladimirlenin8236]

skhval torpedo rockets are a thing

[@DC2022]

@@vladimirlenin8236 sure, but the VA-111 is light year away from what the Poseidon torpedo is supposed to be, i.e. James Bond's villain class threat, understand that it doesn't exist or at least doesn't have the capabilities the russians are boasting... like they're doing with all of their weapons who in reality fall far from their claims. We just have to look at Ukraine to see how "well" russian equipment works with S-400 being destroyed by 30 year old tech missile they're supposed to intercept with ease, the same S-400 that can't detect SCALP EG missiles even when those missiles are literally flying over the SAM and only detected by its crew! The Su-35 falling from the sky despite its legendary best electronic warfare capabilities, Ka-52 and Mi-28N flying tanks who performs as good as the turret flying tanks on the ground despite the supah dupah President S defense system who was describe as the most advanced system in the world, immunizing the choppers against any MANPADS or SAM system... until 2022 when apparently warranty expired and it ceased to work leading to half of the Ka-52 fleet loss in less than a year. Should I talk about their so powerful navy with the great Slava cruiser Moskva, one of the most deadly ship in the world? Deadly she was, for her crew. So when I hear stuff like "the most silent and advanced submarine in the world" I will take that not with a grain of salt but with the entire box.

[@yetiatlarge555]

Found and explained, a show about a sub that is difficult to find and not easily understood, you sir are a steely eyes missile man!

[@ssh9342]

Спасибо автору за интересный рассказ о предмете без геополитики и негатива. Пусть эти прекрасные машины никогда не будут использованы по своему целевому назначению. Всем мира!

[@erictaylor5462]

It is somewhat ironic that these weapon systems are designed in the hope that they will never be used. If the enemy is uncertain they can neutralize that threat, they will likely never start a war. It is better for everyone if both sides have missiles boats that are nearly, or even actually, impossible to track.

[@CatDad01]

the lack of a sauna is a deal breaker.

[@Who_was_in_paris_05]

Please make a video about the xp67 moonbat

[@dreamhunter2973]

Please do one on the Yansen M class SSBN too. I have seen reports saying its really really good........

[@cideltacommand7169]

It is Like a virginia but more boom boom

[@rebelgaming1.5.14]

​@@cideltacommand7169You mean an Ohio? The Virginias are SSNs and are exclusively Attack Submarines. Designed to take on ships and other subs. SSBNs are designed for first strike capabilities. And the ship probably will be. The Ohios are old. The Columbias will replace them, and while they carry two less tubes, each missile will have more warheads than the Ohios did. It's expected the Columbias will carry 2/3rds of the US Nuclear Arsenal once all are in service.

[@Olive_Chap]

Please do on latest SSNs operating by US UK France vs China Russia

[@cideltacommand7169]

Us and uk, good France: mediocre Russia:good China: a decade behind like always

[@pram141]

KURSK was on of my favourite sub 😢

[@volcano1979]

YES

[@pranayghosh4413]

modern russia is slowly lowkey on becoming another soviet union without communism. Massive manufacturing of military armaments, R&D, infra projects, economical corridors, etc

[@cideltacommand7169]

Hopefully no economic collapse

[@DC2022]

@@cideltacommand7169 it's already happening. Just camouflaged by war economy but anything that is not military is on the brink of collapse, healthcare, third sector and tertiary economy spiraling to the abysses. Plus oil and gas not being that cash machine. They started the war with T-90, they'll end it (and lose it) with T-34 (don't laugh, they're already with T-54/55...)

[@GAZZZA19790]

great video !!!

[@Ghent_Halcyon]

Forgot about the subs that the Finish had, which actually outclass the American ones.

[@spineless1]

I believe you are referencing the Swedish Gotland class submarine, as Finland doesn’t have any submarines. The US leased one of the Gotland class for evaluation.

[@Ghent_Halcyon]

@@spineless1 Possibly? It was either Sweden or Finland, but the sub participated in some war games and the opposing side couldn’t find those subs at all.

[@Joris13T]

Lol Finland doesn't have any subs...

[@nirvanaa_11]

29 secs ago is crazy

[@vote4dahv411]

I thought the American Nightmare was Cody Rhodes?

[@TheGrindcorps]

I thought it was debt…

[@LeviSmith-bp4yv]

0:48 you cant hide the Tsar from us

[@sheikbombalot5781]

Russian missiles and submarines have always been top notch. The Borei class is gorgeous. As for missiles, the UK and US doesn’t have much room to talk with the recent Trident failures to launch ;)

[@tomarmadiyer2698]

Do you see torpedoes? Kamchatka sees torpedoes

[@doggonemess1]

6:43 Soviet subs have had crew escape capsules in many of their boats going back to the 70's. Not that they helped much.

[@cideltacommand7169]

I mean it didnt go well on the kursk But if your stuck on the bottom at 500 meters a dubious escape is better than none

[@doggonemess1]

@@cideltacommand7169 True!

[@BenedictF79B]

For a moment i thought it was belgorod as they look pretty similar to each other _🗿_

[@Spectre-mf9vs]

As a "Westerner", I promise you this doesn't cause any lost sleep. Russia is the 2nd strongest Navy in the Black Sea...

[@miles-thesleeper-monroe8466]

Sure, you're safe there in your bedroom

[@GegeDxD]

Then no need for the US and the EU to be afraid, no? But they have full pants already 🤭 We all understand your desperation tho 😏

[@baronvonslambert]

Stealthiest submarine.... ehhhh.... That's a bold claim Cotton. Like every russian boat they'll be pretty quiet until they fall behind on maintenance.

[@cideltacommand7169]

Its pretty quiet, the maintanace problem was when the ussr collapsed and the country was broke

[@baronvonslambert]

@@cideltacommand7169 right now it is, but give it a couple years the bearings will start ticking , the sound isolation materials won't get replaced on time, the pumps are gonna start knocking, etc etc. Russia still has no money and rampant corruption particularly in their armed forces

[@user-dg9hq8uz3g]

​@@baronvonslambert yeah sure, you know best bud.

[@baronvonslambert]

@@user-dg9hq8uz3g and like you know any better lol

[@DC2022]

@@cideltacommand7169 says that to the Kirov, the Moskva, the Kuznetsov... The list is long. the maintenance problem is no tied to USSR collapse, it is tied to the HEAVY in SYSTEMIC corruption in the country where up to 70% of a modernization program is drained by corrupt politic (Putin being the first among them of course), officers and companies.

[@dancool7927]

Please make one for apache ah 64e

[@gianas8012]

the submarine is just like a very long steel bar and i like it

[@mylesvmiles7571]

Here to remind you that if you skipped the ad part of the video rewatch it

[@MrKlemen7]

I would love video about Akula class subs

[@cideltacommand7169]

Akulas are soviet/modernized russian nuclear submarine killers

[@SYNtemp]

They compare it with this one? Ohio calss: Built 1976-1997 In commission 1981-present

[@wlpaul4]

"Oh, well isn't that nice." - Captain of the USS Seawolf. (probably)

[@Stargazzer811]

Despite their age the Seawolf's could still probably run circles around the Borei's. Unfortunately, only 3 were ever made which sucks because even at their age they give the Virginia class a run for their money.

[@DC2022]

@@Stargazzer811 problem being that for one Seawolf you can have several Virginia which are far more than enough to deal with anything that can come from Murmansk.

[@adamcheklat7387]

9:30: It’s Topol-M.

[@robswystun2766]

Bring on all the subs.

[@reggiep75]

00:55 Everyone loves Coke - *BOTH TYPES* thanks to Coca-Cola and Mr P. Escobar 😂😂😂

[@adamfrazer5150]

🤔 trying to pay attention but also trying to anticipate how Nick weaves in his sponsor 🤔

[@Silverstoned-oi4zs]

“Adrenaline, In The Zone!”

[@Vikingdescendent]

A 'Ban the Bomb' movement is more seriously needed than ever, to prevent an end of the world scenario! Sending a handful of pilgrims to Mars to restart humanity's insane desire to self destruct elsewhere, is not the answer.

[@JasonPrice1]

The S is for SUB not sea.

[@rouruapera2711]

Nothing is possible everything is impossible

[@Svartalf14]

BTW, what's the thing with revamping SLBM subs to launch cruise missiles instead, isn't that something of a downgrade?

[@rogerk6180]

New treaties limited the amount of slbm subs in service for usa and soviet union. So they had surplus subs left over and decided to repurpose them.

[@Svartalf14]

@@rogerk6180 Thanks

[@jya4676]

did anyone else see the dolphin at 4:24

[@nekomasteryoutube3232]

Yeah I videos on the other subs, to think that each of them could end the world as we know it.

[@ashrithrao06]

So the British are developing a submarine which would act as a display in Shipyards. 😂😂😂😂

[@gokulkalloor]

When you said coke , I thought of another one 😂😂

[@millugaming133]

Russia is already on their way with their Yasen class submarine...

[@user-dg9hq8uz3g]

Yasens serve different purpose tho.

[@barnmaddo]

The Ohio class submarines with the hump on the back don't carry nuclear missiles. That's the version that was modified to carry a bunch of special forces soldiers.

[@RealityCheck6969]

So Squarespace sponsors nuclear submarines now?! Crazy!

[@Sbv-25]

Submarines are cool

[@raykreiger4123]

cody rhodes mentioned

[@sebas.tian.]

nice

[@A-1-E11]

Can you do one on the Yasen class?

[@stuka101]

Ye Yasen class is way more scary from what I hear - they spent a lot of time developing her!

[@A-1-E11]

@@stuka101 true

[@ristube3319]

11:01 “Russians had an egg on their face” Just one?

[@timothyhernandez3985]

Super Dangerous how many crews killed

[@kevinbarry71]

Seriously?"Eventuate on happening"?

[@stitchup5637]

If it's like anything else Russian, it's highest prospect will likely be an interesting dive site at the bottom of the ocean.

[@Schizofre]

...wdym? When you look % russian things are more reliable and fail less often than wester things.

[@DC2022]

@@Schizofre yeah... sure. Do you want to check nuke submarines loss records? Let's see how many soviet/Russia vs US subs sunk. So en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sunken_nuclear_submarines Oops. So much for russian reliability. You should stop to believe in fairy tales.