Is Saera Targaryen really Hugh Hammer's Mother | House Of The Dragon Season 2 | Analysis and Theory

[@WorldOfWesteros]

So Tuesday we have the final season 2 lore video, Wednesday the last review (gonna be a long one). But that's not all folk. I have a season review planned for next week and of course loads of videos coming, including what i expect we will see in Season 3. Hope you all enjoyed Season 2, thanks for the support over the last six weeks, it's really been crazy and as much as i will miss HOTD, it's been a hell of a lot of work and late night mean it's currently 3.22am. But to get content out so quickly due to time sensitivity gotta do what you gotta do. It's really not my normal workflow. Now all aboard the Dunk and Egg hype train.

[@jeffcordova9633]

I cannot wait for Dunk & Egg, see Maekar!! Baelor Breakspear!!! This season was good! Your constant breakdown of each episode has been amazing!!! Can’t wait for your season review!!

[@lawrencereid2767]

@@WorldOfWesteros can't wait 🏰🖤

[@lawrencereid2767]

@@WorldOfWesteros did you see the screen shots of dunk and egg???

[@ryankwon8785]

I think Hugh kind of hinted he grew up a good life (rich life) but he was embarrassed of his mother’s profession so much he decided to live a humble life as a smith. I think Hugh grew up living with his mother during her travels and he joined his three siblings to travel to Westeros and separated from them to move to Kingslanding before the Great Council began.

[@memecity9849]

It could still make sense in the books if Hugh was born in Essos. Saera was 18 when left Westeros. By the time of the Great Council of 101, Hugh would have been about 14 years old.

[@mike.n.n.7723]

3 of Saera's Bastard sons (all with different fathers, so no twins) went to press their claims at the Great council. The oldest of them would have been 14

[@lukebarroso449]

I really like Hugh Hammer. He is absolutely amazing in this season. Really hope the next season gives him and Ulf some amazing scenes.

[@EastsideBodega_]

If you think this is crazy @4:40, just wait till you see the Season Finale 😭😭😭

[@rainekaplan2289]

my sorta head cannon is that after the great council he would have snuck away in kings landing because he already has said he didn't like the idea of him being a targ bastard and kings landing is where it would have made the most sense that him and the two brothers would have sailed in and left from

[@skipklauber1162]

Nice job, as usual. The biggest danger is HOTD folks getting Star Trek Disease, where they decide they’re above the canon respected by the little people

[@LIVENYC]

Well since he grew up partially in thee east and kings landing, Do we call him Hugh Waters?

[@PzY-Reviews]

No

[@redadmiralofvalyria867]

Probably no, cause JUST because he "grew up" in the east doesn't mean he was BORN in the east

[@LIVENYC]

@@redadmiralofvalyria867 HE WAS BORN IN THE EAST, his mother Saera was a whore in essos. And he came to Kingslanding when he was young because Saera wanted her kids to put in a claim in The Great Council of 101. So BOOM He would be Hugh Waters, like Jon Snow was born in Dorne but grew up in Winterfell

[@SebastianHackeado]

@@redadmiralofvalyria867 Exactly, also it doesn't seem to be related to where they where born also, Jon Snow should be Jon Sand if we are going with that. Also he doesn't seem to be known around as a bastard, or Ulf, or Adam and Allyn. The nobel needs to recognize them as bastards to be called that I believe.

[@mike.n.n.7723]

You need to be acknowledged as a bastard for you to be given a bastard surname e.g. Edric Storm and Mya Stone were both acknowledged by Robert so they got the surnames based on their respective regions; but Gendry and Bella were never acknowledged so they didn't get the names

[@memecity9849]

If Hugh was born in Essos, then its definitely possible that Saera is Hughs mother

[@Mcherri]

I mean it is possible because he could’ve been born in Essos but left because he was ashamed so he made his own way.

[@abelgonzalez158]

That might explain the traitorous tendencies if so 😅

[@SebastianHackeado]

The good thing about the book is that is not "accurate" by the way is written, is full of lies. He is portrayed in the show like a grounded and respectful man, he is not going to betray the blacks the same way is described in the book. Also why having a wild and spirit free mother make her or her son a traitor? I don't get it.

[@HOEEAHHNIGGAS]

@@SebastianHackeado the show isn’t accurate lmfao🤣🤣🤣

[@Canadish]

I'm curious how they'll amend the story to fit his more moral show personality. Not got a great deal of faith given some of the character assassination we saw in S2 mind...😂

[@emilegriffith1473]

​@@Canadish as others have suggested, I think the blacks will indiscriminately kill his wife. after losing his daughter and wife... with (even in the books) rhaenyra slowly becoming more volatile.. he will come to the conclusion his only way to truly bring justice to the realm and for his family, is to seize power for himself.

[@SebastianHackeado]

@@emilegriffith1473 Maybe, but still seems out of character, the dude almost sacrificed himself to save a random woman from a f**king dragon that was torching and eating everyone around him. The only "bad" thing we saw him doing was punching a dude for a couple of vegetables, it was understandable because they were starving. For me is more probable that he will not "betray" them, in the book a lot of the times they state "we don't know what they said to each other" or mushroom said this, and the septon said that, and the other maester said this. They could have lied to cover what really happened or because they don't really know. And what better scapegoat to frame decades later than a bastard with a dragon. So is open for the show writers to do him good. I hope they do the same with my dog Daeron.

[@PzY-Reviews]

I belive jaces treatment of ulf white and the other dragonseed will be a main reason they go turn cloak

[@WorldOfWesteros]

I don’t know why but i’ve got a feeling Ulf’s overconfident in his ability might factor in how the gullet plays out with Jace’s fate. I also think the turn cloak thing is gonna play out differently. Ulf will be Ulf, but i think they may go a different path with Hugh.

[@greggarvin2663]

@@WorldOfWesteros I'm thinking Ulf's wife is going to get killed in some way that Ulf will blame on Rhaenyra

[@mossylog4168]

You mean Hugh?​@@greggarvin2663

[@Morfe02]

W of w. Also i want to point one the irony of Baelon the Brave having Daemon the reckless ULF the coward And Viserys the half both Same irony as Hugh Saera and Jaehaerys dragon

[@aegorbittersteel2154]

1st to take the Black for House Blackfyre 🗡 HAMMER TIME!!!!+

[@jeffcordova9633]

Anytime I think of Hammer I think of the Song Between the Hammer & The Anvil By Judas Priest..🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼 Brother Bittersteel!!! Did you catch the Season finale ?

[@beckyweiss6072]

In a podcast Ryan Condal confirmed Seara was indeed Hugh’s mother. All of the clues dropped track directly to her.

[@Valandhir]

We only know of the children Seara sent to the council. She might have had more, and maybe one of her sons went with the others to Westeros, but split from them before the council (the council records only those present,) and thus Hugh got away, and began his own life, becoming a Blacksmith apprentice somewhere and ultimately ending up in King's Landing.

[@MrMackievelli]

Dragonstone isn't that small, they just only show a small part in the show. In GOT they showed more of it once and you can see farms and stuff.

[@BlackstreetBoys2Men]

This is actually one of my favorite nerdy reveals. I like Hugh on the show and now the show’s version is my head canon and the book just hates on small folk so the Targaryen propaganda would be like “can you believe these people didn’t have blind loyalty to us?” Despite them not caring until they had dragons

[@Noonmeila]

Hugh isn’t Saera’s son. His mother was either a distant Targaryen bastard or a beautiful Lyseni woman who used a story that she was related to Targaryens to sell to her clients and probably lied to Hugh to make him feel better about her job. He has hang-ups about her being SW. Saera was a very proud person, so I have a feeling if she had sons and became very wealthy, her sons would be proud because SWers are looked down upon in the East, especially since she was a Targaryen princess and she was a successful business owner,

[@xandermarley8552]

You cover A Song of Ice and Fire better than anyone else on KZbin👍💯

[@landofalwayswinter666]

I feel like many people in the fandom keep forgetting that George himself has stated plainly that there are two separate canons. Both valid, just different. I think we just have to decide to be okay with that.

[@lawrencereid2767]

Coming out swinging lol 🖤🖤🖤 🏰🖤

[@jeffcordova9633]

My man’s coming out swinging his Warhammer like Bobby B at the Battle Of the Trident😂😂

[@lawrencereid2767]

@@jeffcordova9633 first ranger you comments are welcomed lol

[@sankarkrishnan407]

If Saera was pregnant when reaching the pleasure house. So the chance of Hugh's father was a Westerosi perhaps a Hightower or Redwyne. Saera esteemed her status in Lys after some years. So his first son was mistreated in Lys. At that time Saera speaks Westerosi language. So Hugh had no Lyseni touch. If Saera Targaryn tells him that his father is from reach. So he came to Reach at Tumbleton he works as a Blacksmith's apprentice and later marry his daughter. All are perfect.

[@theoneaboveallthelivingtri5862]

She is not, at least not in the books. She went straight to essos and stayed there, 2/3 sons did went to the great council so maybe they are the father or somethinh.

[@BussinJeiber-wy1nc]

If Saera did get knocked up by Braxton Beesbury, that would be something that Jaehaerys would ask to be kept quiet. I know it still doesn't completely fit with the book canon. I just like it because it adds another layer to the story of Jaehaerys and his messed up relationship with his kid's. Also a bastard grandson claiming Vermithor is awesome.

[@thamayor6324]

Him staying after a attebding the GC could work bc on the show he looked nervous asking aegon for payment like I hope no one notices me

[@anitat9727]

My question is why is he so poor? Saera was rich. Even if he was ashamed, she or one of his siblings would have been rich enough to send him enough gold so his kids survive

[@JoseGonzalez-pn5zl]

I think this character very interesting along with ulf. Particularly because of what they do later on in the story. Gonna make us hate them even more especially how it effect’s the other dragon rider that I know a lot of people are gonna love which is Adamm.

[@62iq64]

Wait till you watch the season finale!

[@carastone3473]

Yes. I believe he truly loves his wife and wouldn't lie to her about that.

[@jeffcordova9633]

For the lord Commander, the Watch, & all my brothers In black!! 🗡️🗡️🗡️🗡️ Brother Bittersteel, I think when George RR. Martian said “there is Book cannon & show cannon” Basically stating that the is gone be different than the book. Which to me is meh, it’s a double edged sword.. Timeline in the book it doesn’t make Sense for Hugh to Be her son. In the show, it’s possible… His character in the show to me, shows Signs already of Hesitation to Serve Rhaeynera, I honestly think when he finds out That Her Grace was the who instilled the Valyrion Blockade which caused his daughters death he’s gonna be waiting for his moment to Betray The Blacks

[@mikemiken1963]

Canon.

[@jeffcordova9633]

​@@mikemiken1963ahahahah gods be damned that bloody spell check!!

[@duyanh4609]

Should've just made him a son of a Prince ,done ,no controversy

[@juliusfishman7222]

Definitely doesn't work in the books when you calculate the ages

[@JR5745]

No

[@herbthompson8937]

Definitely never read anything about Saera being on Dragonstone...so absolutely not

[@sarahgirlisit]

She’s not and yes she has kids but he’s not one of them.

[@jayel1471]

I don't get peoples betrothal to the book. The book was written by people who weren't in these rooms, who weren't privy to private conversations. They're third party recollections at best. Why would you expect the book to be completely true when the narrators can't even agree. It's propaganda.

[@WorldOfWesteros]

To some extent that is true, yes there are inconsistencies and vagueness in fire and blood given it was written as a history book. But that doesn't mean everything in the book is 'propaganda' or everything is incorrect. Obviously private conversation between people are pure speculation on the sources part, but much of what is documented comes from people like Orwyl and Gerardys who very much were in the room for a lot of these key events. Munkin himself can be very bias and pick and choose however. There are also many cases were the sources do agree and undeniable facts. Characters ages, wider key historical actions etc. Using this video as an example, the fact Saera was exiled in 84ac is true, are the circumstances of her exsile 100% true, maybe not, who knows exactly what happened in the throne room we only have one source for it who is Pro-Jaehaerys. Yes fire and blood has propaganda, yes there are conflicting sources and you have to be aware of that when reading it, but 90% really isn't like that at all

[@HarlemSexyBlaqkat]

How can we trust the books it's definitely propaganda for green side.

[@mike.n.n.7723]

​@@WorldOfWesterosToo many fans heard about fire and blood having "unreliable narrators" and took that to mean that nothing in the book was true

[@juliusfishman7222]

They're some things to stupod to have been mistaken

[@dvsat12]

isnt the book a historical retlling and canonically inaccurate

[@WorldOfWesteros]

Yes and no. There are a lot of conflicting accounts of what happened with certain events (Cole & Rhaenyra’s relationship is a good example) where its impossible to know the truth. The dance is where a lot of the conflicting accounts exist with 3-4 key sources who disagree on a fair amount. But id say 80% is fairly solid factually laying out in vague terms what happened, when, to who. Using this video as an example, we know Saera was born in 67, we know she was exiled in 84ac. We know there was some kind of relationship with her group of friends. We know some of what happened thanks to multiple witness statements, but we can never know what really happened with her friends given Munkin wasn’t there exactly there. We can peace together a vague idea but not 100% how it went down. So yes there is inaccuracy and you should always remember that when reading it, but that doesn’t mean the whole book is factually inaccurate.

[@dvsat12]

@@WorldOfWesteros absolutely, i believe the broad strokes are typically accurate book wise but i think its fascinating that grrm included character bias and conflicting accounts in the book

[@duyanh4609]

The book is different from the show. That's it!

[@ChiefKene]

I might be in the minority (for now) but after watching both seasons of HotD I can say the series is not that good. It’s a mess, plot drags way too much, a lot of the episodes are filler, characters stand around for episodes doing nothing, and they have a few plot holes that I can’t get my head around (like aegon the younger and visery are literal toddlers, aren’t they like 5/6 in the books). Best thing is the dragons and dragon fights. It’s not as bad as the final seasons of GoT but it’s not that far off. It feels rushed

[@drrohanjacob]

Thanks i hate episode 8,as a fanatic team black supporter. There is no team green to hate any more . Just team good guys vs team aemond the pyscho.

[@duyanh4609]

Everyone should hate this absolute fanfic of a season. There are some improvements like Aegon ii, Hugh and Ulf. But it is too BAD for a show we had to wait for 2 years. 8 eps of crazily boring ,no action

[@drrohanjacob]

@@duyanh4609 aegon is so jealous of rhenerya he wants to be called the realms delight, he wants even that title from his sister🤣🤣