I've never understood the Sam Seder is a grifter argument. It makes no sense to me
@TheNathanGalang19 күн бұрын
Cenk’s beyond making sense at this point
@JohnDoe-km9zd18 күн бұрын
The people Cenk has been cozying up to have been running scared from Sam and doing everything they can to blacklist him so naturally Cenk has to join in.
@JohnDoe-km9zd18 күн бұрын
And by people I mean right wing grifters.
@MichaelAronson18 күн бұрын
I'm not saying anyone willing to debate Sam is not a grifter or is acting in good faith, but a pretty sure sign that someone is grifting or acting in bad faith is if they refuse to debate Sam.
@hanswurst543318 күн бұрын
PURE deflection. Cenk masterfully internalized maga rhetoric at this point...
@cannibalskitchen842118 күн бұрын
The Majority Report has explained multiple times that the reason they go after people like Jimmy Dore, Dave Rubin, and Tim Pool is because these people are the mouth of a pipeline to atrocious beliefs and they want to get in the way of that pipeline and divert as many people away from it as possible. It helps them make money along the way, but I don't doubt for a second that the stated goal is the primary motivation.
@candyjustcandy18 күн бұрын
It was pretty pathetic for Cenk to call Sam Seder a grifter, and then the reason he gave for calling him one was laughable. That really diminished him in my eyes as I was once a huge fan. Is Cenk a grifter? Anyone responsible would say, "I don't know." But it doesn't matter what matters is he's hurting the left. Sam called Jimmy out years before he left tyt, and that got under Cenk's skin. Sam wouldn't back down from it, and guess who was right?
@TheNathanGalang18 күн бұрын
Crazy that Cenk made Dave Rubin and Jimmy Dore's career hmmm
@stormburn118 күн бұрын
Cenk’s either grifting or has lost his mind. I’m not sure which is more charitable, but I lean towards the perspective that maintains his agency.
@Vynjira-chan18 күн бұрын
@@stormburn1 He is grifting, but I think people confuse grifting/selling out and what the Grift is.. Cenk's grift is and has been for a long time, that he was a progressive.. That's the facade.. that's the brand, when he's always been a populist. Populism just happens to agree with progressives +70% of the time because Progressive ideas are popular. It's falling apart now, because he's focusing increasingly on issues that Progressives and Populists are on opposite sides. In addition this is why it bothers him far more when the Left/Progressives call him out, because it hurts the image and the brand he's created.. which only has value as long as he maintains it. He only cares about the perception, which is why on TYT he will blatantly lie to his audience to control the narratives around each controversy to protect his image. This is the grift.
@heyskipj18 күн бұрын
@@TheNathanGalang Cenk also boosted careers of John, Emma, Kenny Klips, Jessica Burbank... I see TYT more like an old university. The structure may be withering, but it's an institution many can use to move ahead
@MaySpitfire18 күн бұрын
Judge a Sam by his enemies, all im sayin.
@nakfoor184618 күн бұрын
The thought of Sam, whose team works out of a closet studio, is a grifter is a comical assertion.
@TheNathanGalang18 күн бұрын
they from new york so it's probably a 10 MILLION DOLLAR STUDIO (in a closet)
@Martell_Dog19 күн бұрын
The fact that only one of them (Cenk) is even afraid to confront the other, just show whom has actual convictions. Nevermind blatantly distorting facts to try to character assassinate him, rather than give any actual criticism. Great video, given the time spent.
@TheNathanGalang19 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching, def agree, if Cenk can talk to Charlie "MLK was trash" Kirk, he should be able to handle Sam lmao. But Cenk joins Steven Crowder in being horribly afraid to interact with Sam, and it's a shame!
@ctrash17 күн бұрын
Cenk doing the most obvious hardcore grift in broad day light while calling other people grifters is hilarious.
@ninskdesign18 күн бұрын
Michael Brooks was ALWAYS getting on Sam’s case for his failure to do the KZbin-y things, like promote the show. Ppl should watch the 2016 Dore v Seder debate- Sam was prophetic.
@TheNathanGalang18 күн бұрын
that debate was amazing genuinely. RIP Michael
@ajjothikumar17 күн бұрын
@@TheNathanGalang Left is best.
@SmedleyButlerianJihad19 күн бұрын
Sam Seder radicalized me
@TheNathanGalang19 күн бұрын
He's a great guy!
@DavidHeffron7818 күн бұрын
Sign you are a grifter - you won't debate Sam Seder.
@beaver6d918 күн бұрын
The idea that Sam is a grifter is laughable.
@moody944218 күн бұрын
grifter can be on the left too. sams one of them. he greenlights everything the left does. genocide? he says hes against it but he'll vote for it to "save democracy" with an anointed candidate.
@_Cole007917 күн бұрын
Also when exactly did Sam call Cenk a Nazi? I don't think he ever did.
@ctrash17 күн бұрын
I dunno, but I can point to Cenk calling Trump a nazi before deciding to fellate him for cash.
@Kaptin3s18 күн бұрын
Sam is one of the most consistent voices in politics, let alone on the left .
@TheNathanGalang17 күн бұрын
100% agree!
@burgerpocalypse17 күн бұрын
LIVE FROM POLYMARKET STUDIOS IN LOS ANGELES!!
@Idontknowwhatswaitingforme18 күн бұрын
If he is, he’s terrible at it. So I’m going to guess no.
@TheNathanGalang18 күн бұрын
facts LOL
@smb-d8c18 күн бұрын
It is pantently absurd to call Sam Seder a grifter.
@TheNathanGalang18 күн бұрын
facts
@DavidHeffron7818 күн бұрын
The first half of Sam's show is Sam or Emma interviewing an academic or journalist on a policy subject. Classic grift. Grifting 101.
@TheNathanGalang18 күн бұрын
everyone knows the best way to grift is to start our show with an hour long detailed conversation about policy! the market loves that!
@MrXHCx19 күн бұрын
Is CENK a grifter?
@TheNathanGalang19 күн бұрын
maybe. perhaps.
@hazardousjazzgasm12919 күн бұрын
probably just more of a moron than a grifter, a grifter needs at least some people skills
@thenorwegian7618 күн бұрын
looking into it.
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated17 күн бұрын
Cenk’s just jealous that he’s not a beloved voice actor in Bob’s Burgers.
@TheNathanGalang17 күн бұрын
SO TRUUUUU CENK COULD NEVER BE ONE OF THE MOST BELOVED VOICE ACTORS OF ALL TIME
@magnump.i.770018 күн бұрын
Lol, sam prides himself on trying to be right, I can disagree with him, but I think his aim is to be correct
@robinsuda20 күн бұрын
Nathan the real grifter
@TheNathanGalang20 күн бұрын
fact check: true
@Boxcar80818 күн бұрын
Hi Cenk
@Kostly19 күн бұрын
4 minutes is a pretty good video length.
@TheNathanGalang19 күн бұрын
i agree!
@klsinger12418 күн бұрын
LIVE FROM POLYMARKET STUDIOS
@TheNathanGalang18 күн бұрын
where's sam's polymarket sponsorship! clearly the mark of a true NON Grifter
@oneki18 күн бұрын
Anyone who calls sam seder a grifter on youtube, is absolutey talking ish....
@coltonruscheinsky786319 күн бұрын
No.
@TheNathanGalang18 күн бұрын
100% agree!
@coltonruscheinsky786318 күн бұрын
@@TheNathanGalang Yeah, I found out after watched your video. lol
@marlock657317 күн бұрын
Sam is the opposite of a grifter. If he only cared about money, he never would've stopped acting.
@TheNathanGalang17 күн бұрын
@@marlock6573 true!!
@NewtonDynamics-j2j18 күн бұрын
if he was, he is really bad one.
@andreaclark956120 күн бұрын
Hey its Andrea from your gta 5 stream good stream BTW. I was bored and when I clicked on your stream it was funny, and fun to watch. Especially with that dude that kept on rageing at you. That was super funny.
@TheNathanGalang20 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching! Glad the debates were entertaining, hope to do more gaming in the future too!
@konakona09118 күн бұрын
You're right when you say Cenk might not be a grifter, he really might just be dumb.
@TheNathanGalang18 күн бұрын
i can genuienly see being dumb guiding him LOL
@Kostly19 күн бұрын
lmao Sam Grifts like the Grinch steals christmas.
@rogerbabin817517 күн бұрын
The first part of your analysis is great but the final part is a failure. How could say Cenk isn't a grifter? How much more proof do you need? Remember, Cenk is highly intelligent and very highly educated in political issues. He's known about the right wing playbook for ages. He understands facts over vibes based politics. I'd love a video of your completely genuine analysis defending how Cenk is still in line with his politics on a moral level and how is behavior, though reflecting that of the path of a grifter, is in fact something else.
@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax17 күн бұрын
Yeah I agree. Cenk is a grifter. He's using every rule in the grifter book. With the help of Ana of course.
@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax17 күн бұрын
I remeber when Cenk used to go on about how he used to be a conservative and then "saw the light" as a progressive person. Seems like he didn't lose much of his former perspective and now thinks that being a right wing grifter is more profitable (and he's correct in that assumption) and has decided to take that path.
@agsiar19 күн бұрын
So far I agree that Cenk is not a grifter. He may be a liar, a hypocrit, an idiot, a grifter. But he is not a porn star! Jokes aside, he is DEFINITELY acting like an entitled, self-centered idiot that unconsciously thinks of himself as "the true left". More than dangerous, he's a true disappointment. And that hurts his former followers more than it hurts him. On the other hand, perhaps it is us who expected something from someone who simply is not what we believed to be.
@TheNathanGalang19 күн бұрын
Thats a good point, perhaps we as an audience gotta not trust folks like Cenk and Dave Rubin early on
@apolloforabetterfuture481419 күн бұрын
Sam's only crime is being a liberal, which is why I liked Michael Brooks and Jamie Peck lol Sam is absolutely not a grifter not even slightly. Cenk is just projecting.
@TheNathanGalang19 күн бұрын
Cenk is def projecting hard
@creshiell19 күн бұрын
😬😬😬 uhhhh, how much of Michael's career did you follow?
@ASocialSociety18 күн бұрын
Sam is the GOAT
@TheNathanGalang18 күн бұрын
yoo coincidentally i came across your channel recently! you make great stuff! just subscribed :D
@ASocialSociety18 күн бұрын
@ likewise my friend! I’d love to have ya on the channel for a chat
@ASocialSociety18 күн бұрын
@ link or it didn’t happen
@TheNathanGalang18 күн бұрын
I’d be down
@ASocialSociety18 күн бұрын
@ think you could shoot me an email? I have it in my about section. I can’t find yours or I’d reach out myself 😂
@jacksonpanneton852119 күн бұрын
The true alpha male💪
@TheNathanGalang19 күн бұрын
True!
@tigers783416 күн бұрын
Cenk and TYT have really changed these last few years. TYT sports is still pretty good but he rarely talks about sports though
@djdwoodward19 күн бұрын
Unhappy Cenkmas.🤢🤮
@TheNathanGalang19 күн бұрын
Cenk needs some of that joy kamala was talking about
@crazymonk2718 күн бұрын
Cenk sponsored by polymarket
@TheNathanGalang18 күн бұрын
true!
@mysticangel00018 күн бұрын
I will be honest, if this drama happened in the spring, or now and K had won election…. I suspect a bunch of us hopping between dishing/critique videos, might be above it/not care so much, but this is an amusing distraction from ‘real shit’. …. And shows a bunch of us our suspicions weren’t off 1-3years back. (Do you know if anyone has been careful to archive tyt old videos? An if it’s secured, any interest in time stamps of past views/statements that are 180 to now, when Cenk says he hasn’t shifted, and perhaps he hasn’t internally… but what he is SAYING now vs when i found in EARLY days definitely has.
@TheNathanGalang18 күн бұрын
I don't have an extensive archive of their earlier pivot, but I will be making a video taking about the birthing person stuff cuz even to this DAY cenk be bringing it up. And I do believe that was the moment the pivot began, that's also literally when i was part of TYT! I do have conversations from that time of me discussing it that ima read for the vid, make sure to sub to see it when it comes out!
@mysticangel00017 күн бұрын
@ i started watching… pre nose job, … so the switch between stated views then vs now is wild. … an frustrating because it feels like so many people in my actual life who are sliding conservative and it boggling my mind as they are not unintelligent… but the conservative side will objectively be worse, including for themselves/their children/their friends.
@RiskRaines18 күн бұрын
Yes. Any person that reports on the pain of at-risk people, then the content creator gets all the money, fame and publicity, while at-risk people get nothing. Grift defined. If Sam Seder used his platform to help at-risk people, then he wouldn't be a grifter. Is Sam conning people? Yes. TYT staffers will definitely say Sam isn't grifting, bc admitting Sam is a grifter, is admitting they are also grifters at TYT. ❤
@ctrash17 күн бұрын
First of all, Sam donates money and time to those causes and platforming is exposure which is more opportunity for funding and being noticed... Your definition of "Grift" is lacking and bad as well as your knowledge of Sam.
@RiskRaines17 күн бұрын
@ctrash Sam donates money? To who?
@RiskRaines17 күн бұрын
@ctrash Sam donates money to who. Post Sams donos. TY. ❤
@RiskRaines17 күн бұрын
@ctrash Yeah my Dad donates to charity as well. For a tax write off, not out of the goodness of his heart. Just lol. You people are idiots if you think Sam Seder is a good guy. ❤
@ctrash17 күн бұрын
@@RiskRaines I could do that, but you're a disingenuous loser who doesn't actually watch or even know the first thing about Sam or else you'd already know about it so it would be wasted time, which is how I assume your mother views raising you.