'Is Sleeping In Your Car Prohibited?': Sotomayor Grills Attorney In Contentious Homelessness Case

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On Monday, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in City of Grants Pass v. Johnson.
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@ldygzlle1291 5 ай бұрын

I live in my van. I pay my own way. I work full time. as a home health care aide.I lost husband and home during pandemic. I am not paying rent to save and get ahead. Please don’t criminalize my life!!!

@cathybarnes2728 4 ай бұрын

Until it happens to them, they will never understand. You are in my prayers

@AngelLPena 4 ай бұрын

I am so sorry, and I wish you the best of success.

@JG-qt3pn 5 ай бұрын

The same people against homelessness in their neighborhoods are also against the affordable housing in their neighborhood that would alleviate the problem.

@Ont785 5 ай бұрын

I am absolutely about affordability in specific areas. Meaning, you can’t just selectively choose an area that you want to live in, and then demand that it becomes affordable to you. If the public is going to make adjustments through their own tax dollars to create affordability, then they get to decide where that affordability is going to be. In the same respect, I don’t want people living in a van outside of my house.

@sophocles1198 4 ай бұрын

Affordable housing will not solve the homelessness problem. Affordable does not mean free.

@silvertone1 4 ай бұрын

@@Ont785 Where do you think the public will decide that affordability is going to be, in the middle of the stick or suburbs? Or right downtown in the city where the most businesses and jobs are.

@silvertone1 4 ай бұрын

@@sophocles1198 Yes it will, it's solved it everywhere else..including 'free'. You either want to solve your problems or you prefer to remain victims with a country that looks like a camping park. My suspicion is on the latter when it comes to the usa.

@bgorg1 4 ай бұрын

@@Ont785this is actually a liberty argument. We should not prohibit building affordable homes - let it be a market issue

@ianmangham4570 5 ай бұрын

We got money for WAR not for the POOR.😮

@brianphillips9152 5 ай бұрын

The greedy always beat the needy.

@himerosTheGod 5 ай бұрын

-Tupac

@lisad56 4 ай бұрын

In California we’ve been tax and poured billions of dollars into homelessness. The government doesn’t know where 24 billions of dollars went (missing). Los Angeles has the highest homeless population in the US. Homelessness has become a big business for the politicians and non profits. It cost $600,000 to house a homeless person a year, per the government of Los Angeles.

@bgorg1 4 ай бұрын

Defense protects the rights of people. Poring money into homelessness does not.

@dansots 4 ай бұрын

War grows portfolios. Doing what is actually necessary doesn't.

@lynwill9946 5 ай бұрын

Some people in this country have become so cruel. No one seeks to be homeless. They are homeless due to mental illness, abuse at home or under employment. Many employed people are forced to be homeless. We have to create solutions and stop being punitive.

@kristoferscott3677 5 ай бұрын

Yes there are people who do choose to be homeless because they don't want any responsibility and want taxpayers to give them their freebies.

@RealLifeProduct 5 ай бұрын

I live in my truck and receive no government assistance. All I want is to work and be left alone until I saved enough for some land. All I hear is about how some are on drugs or mental illness but I don't have any of those issues. I just want to be able to get ahead and can't if all my money is going to rent and utilities. With inflation, low wage, no rent and no utilities it is going to take some years. I can't believe people in our government are considering kicking me while I'm down. I think it's because they want people to live check by check instead of saving like me.

@kristoferscott3677 5 ай бұрын

@@RealLifeProduct so I guess the thought of becoming a roommate didn't cross your mind since that would stop you from living in your vehicle and help out another person who might be struggling due to inflation?

@cherylmockotr 5 ай бұрын

We ALL know that we aren't actually talking about the broad category of homelessness, we are talking about the non-functional homeless who are a public nuisance because they refuse the services available to them. We are talking about those who do NOT want to improve their lives, become functional adults, and stop being a nuisance to others. Having a bleeding heart for the functional group of homeless is universal, it's the unrealistic virtue signaling about the non-functional group that has become so ridiculous... STOP conflating the two!

@cherylmockotr 5 ай бұрын

@@RealLifeProductthat all depends... are you and your truck a visible public nuisance? Or do you do stealth camping and seamlessly blend in to society without creating a biohazard and trashy eyesore appearance?

@forho2 5 ай бұрын

Imagine outlawing sleeping in your car overnight.

@silvertone1 4 ай бұрын

I lost count how many rights your country has lost since Trump was in power but my lord is it funny.

@kevinsouza7744 4 ай бұрын

@@silvertone1 Name a couple.

@silvertone1 4 ай бұрын

@@kevinsouza7744 How about the right not to ask stupid questions like a typical cult member. Now go send trump some more of your money.

@kevinsouza7744 4 ай бұрын

@@silvertone1 Damn that was a good one.

@joiisler3012 4 ай бұрын

@@kevinsouza7744 Well You Asked.😂

@daisyhoney3088 5 ай бұрын

Im a straight, white, Christian woman who has never done drugs or drink, and i am poor. My rent went up this past lease, and i can't hardly pay what they are asking, and i won't be able to stay here next lease if it goes up. Im not even sure ill be here through out this lease because i take meds for my heart and i dont have insurance so i have to pay cash for doctors and medications and i have rwo dogs that i care for. I have a car, and i will not lose my car, so it will be paid first. If im homeless, then i have to do what i have to do if you people hate me for it , SO WHAT!!!!!

@sndspderbytes 5 ай бұрын

I want you to live and be happy. These haters are disgusting. The homeless already have it tough enough Banning sleeping is unconstitutional.

@chetpomeroy1399 5 ай бұрын

There are parts of the country where it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to keep a roof over one's head, and there's plenty of work that pays decent.

@jazziez6467 5 ай бұрын

you need to go to your local welfare office and sign up for snap and medicare and possibly go to food pantries for food.

@marymitchell8625 5 ай бұрын

Bern there. ❤

@ericnvee 5 ай бұрын

You need insurance sweetheart! Try filing for welfare even if just for insurance and you may qualify for food stamps so you won’t have to pay so much of your hard earned money. Don’t listen to nasty people. Wishing you blessings ❤🙏

@elmerkilred159 5 ай бұрын

Kind of an important question because OTR truck drivers park overnight and are required to sleep in their vehicles when they run out of driving hours. People also sleep in their RV's, and automobiles, while traveling, or on lunch breaks from work, or while waiting to pick up passengers... So, "status" depends on the discretion of the officer. Passing a law like this would now give a city constable permission to harass every driver that he thinks is homeless. (Like a college kid on the way to college, or that unemployed guy who is driving his mother around to doctor appointments). Essentially, this could be a violation of the 4th amendment rights, 9th amendment, and possibly the 14th amendment. (rights to privacy).

@uqox 5 ай бұрын

The 2007 mortgage crisis should have upended the political playing board demonizing the homeless. The population of people who lost their homes and remain homeless has never been tracked. You need an address to get consistent paying work. Not everyone can live in their car and access the services that allow them to ramp up to weekly motels. People living in their cars are not doing so voluntarily. These cities that are now trying to really make money on the poor by criminalizing and fining them should put efforts into affordable housing and programs to get people out of their cars and employed.

@christineguttilla6465 5 ай бұрын

They do have those services. Just not for Americans for illegals. I work at an upscale Hotel chain. They put them up in our $230 a night Suites, 2 per family.. one for the kids and another for the parents because they won’t stick 5 or 6 in one Suite.. and the government pays for this for months and months at a time. Americans however are maybe given an option of a shelter with cots in one big auditorium, dozens sleeping together in the same space where theft is rampant and many feel unsafe. No Suites. No Housekeeping service. Not even a locked door between you and the next stranger. That’s how our government … THIS government, takes care of its own in favor of foreigners.

@CharlesCurran-m9p 5 ай бұрын

At some point you get down to the issue of the deserving vs the undeserving poor. Does someone who lost their home due to no fault of their own get the same treatment as the dug addicted non conformist who refuses help or behavioral change.

@Thedoorwayhome 5 ай бұрын

Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. America is no longer free

@geraldbennett7035 5 ай бұрын

Right. We may be looking at homeless have the right to live on our sidewalks.

@danoman5217 5 ай бұрын

You have the right to pursuit happiness. Many will millions dollar home are unhappy!! Many homeless are very happy.

@Slw1111 5 ай бұрын

This country has never been free for women, POC, or the poor.

@Slw1111 5 ай бұрын

@geraldbennett7035 Where else would the homeless live? It's not like this country is intelligent enough to fix up abandoned homes and provide them to the homeles, which hundreds of economic studies have shown would actually save taxpayers millions of dollars every year.

@onceagain6184 5 ай бұрын

@@danoman5217 No one in their right mind is happy being homeless!

@qjtvaddict 5 ай бұрын

LAND OF THE FREE MY ASS

@bretttobin9632 5 ай бұрын

FJB

@silvertone1 4 ай бұрын

Your war mentality has come back to bite you, The hatred your right-wing has for others has been transferred onto the rest of you at home.

@daisyhoney3088 5 ай бұрын

There is no way if i end up kicked out of my apartment, am i not going to sleep in my car because im human and need to sleep, period?

@TheHubeef 5 ай бұрын

Its common sense. Where else is someone supposed to sleep

@Veritas-invenitur 5 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t classify sleeping in or living out of a car as homelessness as long as you have an active registration or are on land that you hold an agreement with the owner to use. Just as I wouldn’t classify someone living in a tent on their own land as homelessness either. If you are living in/on a taxable asset that you own, you shouldn’t be classified as homeless.

@peterdangelo5882 5 ай бұрын

It is living in your car parked on a public street that is the issue. You can sleep you cannot camp or live in tent or car in a public area. Has nothing to do with sleeping.

@Veritas-invenitur 5 ай бұрын

@@peterdangelo5882 What’s the problem with letting people live in cars parked on public streets? Is it that they are using up all of the street parking as if that’s the case, cities could always build them a lot.

@TheHubeef 5 ай бұрын

@@peterdangelo5882 Ive seen people arrested at Laundry mats on You Tube doing laundry and falling asleep

@stevemt3238 5 ай бұрын

The attorney is as evasive as appointed officials testifying before Congress. The elephant in the room will not be discussed, and that is why is there so much homelessness?

@landontesar3070 5 ай бұрын

Maybe the attorneys will learn this doesn't work at the supreme court

@peterdangelo5882 5 ай бұрын

She was fine, questions by judge were misguided and off point. You cannot live in a public part - or camp therein. That is the problem not sleeping.

@landontesar3070 5 ай бұрын

@@peterdangelo5882 I thought homelessness is the problem

@peterdangelo5882 5 ай бұрын

@@landontesar3070 IT is, but you have no constitutional right to live or camp in a public park.

@landontesar3070 5 ай бұрын

@@peterdangelo5882 I believe the judges have a hard time with the definition of establishing a campsite as holding a blanket, asleep or awake. Will be interesting to get the ruling.

@edwardabrams4972 5 ай бұрын

Let mercy and kindness ALWAYS be shown to the poor❤️😢

@marcdeckard6115 5 ай бұрын

Real estate speculation, unlimited property tax, has brought us to this point.

@lauriekash3980 5 ай бұрын

Real estate developers and in many towns taxes, assessments on houses increased dramatically. Rapacious gentrification. What a country. Military industrial complex gone berserk and developers the types of Jared Kushner are crushing working people. Not everyone is a drug addict or mentally ill. But Dang, I would be going mentally ill or do drugs if my home was on the street mixed in with drug addicts, mentally ill , etc! Where is common sense? Where? Let's put SCOTUS on a camping trip to see how they fair with minimal support. Criminal. In San Jose, people are living in their cars while making $70,00 a year as professionals? Yet can't afford apartments. We are failing up!

@uncleswan3896 5 ай бұрын

property hoarding has brought us here. real estate LLCs

@HeatGeek1 5 ай бұрын

Marc I agree, but also thow in building codes and rules about number of occupants. Minimum square footage of a home is just stupid and designed to protect existing property owners.

@marcdeckard6115 5 ай бұрын

@@lauriekash3980 And I bet you voted for it.

@richdobbs6595 5 ай бұрын

I think you need to include zoning in this list.

@bkucenski 5 ай бұрын

Jesus replied to him, “Foxes have holes and the birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head.” Conservatives would lock up Jesus and force him to make license plates to make the rich a little richer. Jesus chose to be homeless. He did it on purpose. He deliberately refused to own property or rely on private property.

@kicnbac 5 ай бұрын

Conservatives would not lock up Jesus. Liberals would because they don't believe in God.

@ForYour2EyesOnly 5 ай бұрын

Amen! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

@Mynameizntimportant 5 ай бұрын

Too much government

@uncleswan3896 5 ай бұрын

not enough government protecting us from LLCs hoarding houses.

@mansfieldfamily5389 4 ай бұрын

Agreed. You can't micromanage people this much.

@slynskey333 5 ай бұрын

Illegal to sleep in your car....wft

@landontesar3070 5 ай бұрын

you've never had a cop wake you up at 5 am and ask you to move your car from a free public parking space?

@MariaCarmen-wb7gv 5 ай бұрын

The circus must go on, hopefully they are running out of acts. It's getting really old, to me.🌹

@Rugerman70 5 ай бұрын

Yeah I drove to Florida from VA to stealth camp in van then realized in Florida you can’t sleep in your car I got run off by police for parking in a grocery parking lot I wound up going to a 24 hour grocery

@oldperson2112 5 ай бұрын

You can sleep in your car in the right place. Here's how: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZCsq4uYjpeWgbM

@landontesar3070 5 ай бұрын

@@oldperson2112 will remember that if I am in Las Vegas, nv

@JM-lf4ws 5 ай бұрын

Attorney Evaded answering a direct question...

@landontesar3070 5 ай бұрын

I call it California speak, make the best case possible response to any inquiry even if evasive and unrealistic

@tristramstout8988 5 ай бұрын

Criminalize the Airbnb operations! It’s the rich people paying crazy amounts for shacks and running them as short term rentals that are largely responsible for the current housing crisis.

@Starfish2145 5 ай бұрын

Do you know how many seniors are living in cars and vans? If they lose them they will also be sleeping in parks. Create safe parking lots with community showers and port a potties. EVERY TOWN NEEDS THIS.

@OldGuy555 5 ай бұрын

You and I agree. This is my comment: There should be free, accessible, safe places with sanitary facilities for homeless to sleep in their cars. THE ASSHOLES THAT RUN THIS CITY WOULD RATHER CRIMINALIZE HOMELESS THAN PROVIDE PARKING FOR THEM. Criminalization is far more expensive than provision of minimal housing or at least a place to sleep in car with sanitation.

@george1la 5 ай бұрын

Good questioning by Sotomayor.

@khyronkravshera7774 5 ай бұрын

This is moving toward criminalizing being poor. Don't get me wrong we need to deal with the homeless Issue. But govt always goes way beyond the original intent when enforcing laws.

@Soberfuzz 5 ай бұрын

It's already criminalized. Can't pay, face jail. Any possible way.

@TatankaSapa 5 ай бұрын

Your reaching! Being poor isn't the crime, it's the behaviors you exhibit with the excuse being that you're poor. Every citizen has an obligation of being self sufficient.

@khyronkravshera7774 5 ай бұрын

@@TatankaSapa But not every human being is physically or mentally capable of being self sufficient? That's just a fact. What happens to people with physical/mental disabilities, debilitating health problems, mental illness or advanced age? What happens to people that just happen to get unlucky and are put in a situation where they simply can't be self sufficient?

@Jeff-wc9xp 5 ай бұрын

The issue isn't being homeless. The issue is being poor.

@TatankaSapa 5 ай бұрын

@@khyronkravshera7774 I agree but argue that the mentally ill and those incapable physically or mentally are just a small fraction of the masses claiming every excuse to avoid being responsible.

@jeffersonmayes4657 5 ай бұрын

I hope not! Because you go buy a new one chances are you'll have to sleep in it, before its paid for! I mean they cost more than the first house the bank and i purchased !

@jessiejoseph1093 5 ай бұрын

50% of the homeless in the great state of California are over the age of 50. There are so many layers to this. It is impossible for the poor and low income people to retire in dignity.

@cathybarnes2728 4 ай бұрын

Very, very sad

@silvertone1 4 ай бұрын

From age 55 we can't even be evicted where i live as long as we've been there 10+ years..even if they sell the building and wanted to convert it or tear it down..can't do it,. would have to pay me off $$$. Furthermore our rents are controlled..can never raise more then previous years official inflation rate...1-2.5% basically.

@Debra-s7g 5 ай бұрын

Yes living in your car is against the law. But people have no choice. Lots of elderly we cannot afford rent and food. Its one or the other. Im 63 and disabiled if my son hadn't takenme inidbe homeless.

@uncleswan3896 5 ай бұрын

no, it is not illegal to live in your car, it is not against the law in California where I live. It is not illegal to live in your car in Oregon where this law was enacted, it is only illegal to violate parking and camping ordinances which is arbitrary and doesn't coincide with other state laws, and why they are fighting it in court.

@markmiranda3364 Ай бұрын

@@uncleswan3896 there are sooo many ordinance that prohibit parking and overnight sleeping for vans it’s almost impossible. While it’s not illegal to sleep in your car, Supreme Court 9-3 decision for state to create ordinance and ban prevent people from living in their car.

@txbulldogboxing1462 5 ай бұрын

When a studio apt is over $1000 a month I dont blame anyone for doing what they gotta do. Our lives are not meant to be spent making others wealthy.

@uncleswan3896 5 ай бұрын

In Oakland the homelessness is way beyond Grant's Pass. there are 100,000+ unoccupied housing units in the bay area owned by LLCs, there's one next door to my house unoccupied since 2012. I don't know about the Rogue River Valley but I'm sure there are LLCs there also. The homelessness went way up since the housing crash 2008-2011 and the LLCs bought up a ton of foreclosed properties. Hoarding is the problem not people that can't afford to live anywhere.

@weirdshibainu 5 ай бұрын

I live here and there are a lot of angles to this story. First-Grants Pass is broke. It was a vibrant logging town until the spotted owl decision that all but stopped logging. Grants Pass is small ( 11 square miles) the county is 1650 square miles and the county has zero money, including almost no law enforcement. You can literally be a couple of miles from the city limits and unless it's actually a murder in process, you're on your own.....which leads to the fact that when weed was leaglized as a "solution" for the tax base, the county is flooded with cartels during the summer with tons of illegal weed grown and shipped out of the area-no tax money received and legit growers can't compete. The state ignores the issue. When Oregon passed measure 110, it allowed the posession of small amounts ( up to 2 grams) of any drug, including heroin and meth. The local parks are now literally little more than open air drug markets. What many in the area are concerned about is that Portland has spent hundreds of millions on homeless without fixing anything, in fact making it worse.

@uncleswan3896 5 ай бұрын

@@weirdshibainu I know these things. Fam farm in Eagle point. Canopy licenses. Lot of fam in the valley. Making homelessness illegal in any form doesn’t solve any of those problems and it criminalizes human behavior of sleeping. Oregon has no real sales tax in general and it seems like there’s a need for a different revenue stream than the weed farmers and logging even if they are cracking down on hoop houses and illegal grows I don’t have an answer to the revenue but throwing people in jail costs money

@weirdshibainu 5 ай бұрын

@@uncleswan3896 A sales tax won't solve a thing and is part of the argument in the case. As it stands, municipalities are required to provide housing for every single homeless person before they can enforce any bans on camping. The problem is that cities such as Portland can't provide an accurate count on their homeless population...and neither can any other locale. So..their only answer is to throw money at the situation without any significant positive results. So how much do you spend? I lived in a city that built a 13 million dollar facility, capacity never used over 50 percent and whenever the city tried to clear out the homeless camps, the ACLU threatened to sue. What's irritating about the homeless industrial complex is that their only solution is endless money.

@uncleswan3896 5 ай бұрын

@@weirdshibainu as I said I don't have an answer but Oregon probably needs another revenue source. homeless people aren't usually a good revenue source FWIW

@uncleswan3896 5 ай бұрын

@@weirdshibainu the homeless industrial complex ? is also knows as real estate LLCs. blame people hoarding housing for a lot of the housing problem, friends, not people that don't have enough money or resources to make it. in the bay we have over 100K empty housing units being hoarded and empty as a better investment than deteriorating with an occupant. I'm sure there are plenty of those in Portland and other parts of Oregon.

@TonyLouis9345 5 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, with today's inflation, homelessness is on the rise so there will be more and more people with no place to sleep at night. What will happen to them? What would Jesus do?

@WalkiTalki 5 ай бұрын

Here we go. Untouchable adult children acting NEW.

@memjay9932 5 ай бұрын

This attorney is laying an egg.

@OldGuy555 5 ай бұрын

A code enforcement officer of the City of Chico in California is trying to enforce a "camping ordinance" for sleeping in a shed on private property.

@fisherkieds6282 5 ай бұрын

Lol,stealth van life for me,saves me 24k a year not paying rent

@NoManClatuer-pd8ck 5 ай бұрын

That attorney is a snake in the grass on a rainy day.

@j.m.harris4202 5 ай бұрын

Free People with unrestricted Travel need to stop and rest/sleep especially after long distance travel to be Safe! You know, Rest Stops along the way! Control Freaks need to be put back in their place! Begging our forgiveness for their Transgressions!

@thegadphly3275 5 ай бұрын

If tired when driving it is practically REQUIRED to pull over and rest... that means nap... IN the car... I have a house, I sleep in my van regularly when travelling or visiting out of town....

@jeanwonnacott2718 5 ай бұрын

...so I guess if you have had a few drinks, you better drive? Right? Can't sleep it off in your car? Like I was taught to? Or just really exhausted? Keep going, you can't park?? Seriously? 😮😮

@katelaloba8243 5 ай бұрын

This is so IGNORANT. People are homeless because they are poor and without options. Families have to live in their cars. Provide a helping hand. HELP people. Just so freaking Blind to reality

@heather1506 5 ай бұрын

Nationwide rent control.

@Steve-bw4oh 5 ай бұрын

I put 2200 miles on my car in the month of February once because the cops wouldn't let me sleep. Fuck the blue

@kleamat38lee74 5 ай бұрын

the homeless can sleep everywhere they choose but I cannot sleep in the car? This is ridiculous.

@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 5 ай бұрын

I agree. It's ridiculous. Hey, I want to park my car in your driveway at night. Is that ok? No, because that's private property? Oh, got it. Well what about me parking in the parking lot of a business? Oh, what's that? The private property owner doesn't want to have to clean up trash and human feces and smell human urine every day and therefore doesn't want that? Oh geez. You say it's ridiculous until you actually start thinking it through. I'm a bleeding heart liberal and homelessness saddens me. But the solution CANNOT be to allow homeless to sleep wherever they feel like. If you want to live in your car, great, but you need to park in a car park at night.

@richdobbs6595 5 ай бұрын

@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 The issue is sleeping in a car that is legally parked on the public street. Should the city be providing residents with on street parking at night, but not if someone happens to be sleeping in the vehicle? I think the long term solution is more privatization,

@johnjerman3421 5 ай бұрын

dude try following along with the entire court case - it's not about sleeping in a vehicle it's about where it is taking place aka "public use land " inside the city park which by the way is closed to the public after hours - aka you & I cannot go there after hours so why should homeless people be allowed to stay there? why should anyone who is "homeless have "rights' not offered to anyone who isn't homeless"? ever been to a national park? they have rules & regulations on where you can stay how long you can stay where you can build fires or if fires are even allowed etc, the city should be allowed to enforce the same rules & regulations

@johnjerman3421 5 ай бұрын

@@richdobbs6595 these folks are parking inside the city park at night after hours - which isn't/wasn't normally allowed & the argument is that homeless people should be allowed since they're homeless & have nowhere else to stay - the hypothetical question was about parking anywhere on city streets being illegal if folks are sleeping in their vehicle - man alive doesn't anyone actually follow along with the entire court case or is everyone just watching 1 little out-take? private property is after all private property such as parking lots owned by a company or a private citizen - public use land has rules & regulations that everyone must follow & their argument is the homeless shouldn't have to obey these rules & regulations because "they're homeless and have nowhere else to stay" seems to me the question is not they have nowhere else to stay.. it is they don't want to stay anywhere else -

@reasonablegentleman 5 ай бұрын

If you are feeling left out, you can be homeless also and enjoy the reality of it.

@Dee-u9f2d 5 ай бұрын

Well that's nobody's business because it's their car. There not in anyone else's car. But I don't think this should be heard by these courts

@xentaatnex8261 5 ай бұрын

Why is a Supreme Justice even listening to an issue like this? Couldn't you have addressed this issue locally?

@weirdshibainu 5 ай бұрын

How? It's already worked it's way to the 9th Circuit. Do you know how lawsuits work?

@RubbinRobbin 5 ай бұрын

The supreme court deserves this disgusting case.

@gregorylevesque3410 5 ай бұрын

Walmart allows sleeping in your car anywhere across the country, will that be illegal? What about sleeping in your RV alongside the road or at a rest area? People now live in the vehicles, that is their home…..they want to make that illegal? At the same time there are laws for littering but it’s not enforced…..what a waste of time and money. Again taking away freedom…..The UnUnited States is becoming more and more fascist.

@Aeroldoth3 4 ай бұрын

Cruelty is the point.

@FlipMacz 4 ай бұрын

Yes sleeping in one's car is prohibited! Coast to coast! Just try it & see.... police and do all manners of stuff, including arrest!

@SelahMae-n5x 5 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@taylorsimone9650 5 ай бұрын

We’re living in a time where most people don’t have saving in this country. When you live pay check to paycheck your always a couple emergency away from streets. Rents so high 🥺 no solutions though. Just more criminalizing the poor to hide the fact that the government is failing us and then punishing us for their short coming. These people lack compassion and creativity.

@lynch6642 5 ай бұрын

I back the Supreme Court 100%.... They must be protected

@qjtvaddict 5 ай бұрын

Sleeping in your car is at least decency

@andrewwilliams9599 5 ай бұрын

Conflating parking with camping. What a douchey thing to do.

@janibeg3247 5 ай бұрын

sleep in your car but not on my block

@MisterLobb 5 ай бұрын

She squirmed around, but finally said sleeping in a car is violating the anti- camping even if the car is legally parked in an overnight parking spot.

@mider9996 5 ай бұрын

Why are they even deciding this, what does this have to do with the constitution?

@Diego-yl2ri 5 ай бұрын

You do realize this isnt google right?

@GP-nr2fm 5 ай бұрын

I've noticed something interesting while serving the homeless community in downtown LA. I've never encountered anyone who is physically disabled or has children who are homeless. Instead, I have only come across people who are in the prime of their lives and are homeless. This raises the question: if homelessness is a biological need, what about other people? Do they not have biological needs, or are they not considered people by the judge?

@johnnyatoms3620 3 ай бұрын

IS "BEING HUMAN", A STATIS, OR A HABIT .... ? IT'S A "HUMAN HABITAT" !

@kmanbay6580 5 ай бұрын

I don't like Justice Sotomayor's politics, but her incisive questions and ability to push the question is strong. The attorney she questions in this segment just cannot weasel her way around the Justice's line of questioning.

@daviddye6558 5 ай бұрын

Rent now is more than a single person working full time can afford in every single state in our nation. My own ex sister in law works a job full-time at Dollar Tree and is actively homeless. She has the cheaptest hotel she can find until her check is gone, and then she is in a tent until payday. No car. My cousin is homeless working as a house painter, sleeping in his car. Even if they earned enough to afford rent, there isn't anywhere that accepts less than 3x the rent. The cost for move in is typically thousands. For so many its insurmountable. If they are made to be illegal for just existing, I fear we will see an intense spike in suicide of homeless people.

@geraldineekhator5428 4 ай бұрын

Why should they have the right to limit someone else’s rights to be free and live? Why should they dictate where you can sleep? Just ridiculous! Many times I have slept in my car at a gas station to be safe. Walmart lets you sleep in their parking lot! Just redact the case and let these people live free and clear!

@maidenofsantafem.g.valdez1154 5 ай бұрын

Depends on current circumstances.

@christineguttilla6465 5 ай бұрын

They do have services for homeless. Just not for Americans.. for illegals. I work at an upscale Hotel chain. They put them up in our $230 a night Suites, 2 per family.. one for the kids and another for the parents because they won’t stick 5 or 6 in one Suite.. and the government pays for this for months and months at a time. Normally at least 6 months. Along with a debit card full of money that they come to our overpriced convenience shop in the hotel to buy $9 cans of Pringle’s and $7 bottles of Smart Water instead of going down to Walmart to buy it for a fraction of the cost. And why not, it’s not their money. Americans however are maybe given an option of a shelter with cots in one big auditorium, dozens sleeping together in the same space where theft is rampant and many feel unsafe. Where they’re kicked out of first thing in the morning at 6:30AM. No Suites. No Housekeeping service. Not even a locked door between you and the next stranger. That’s how our government … THIS government, takes care of its own in favor of foreigners.

@christineguttilla6465 5 ай бұрын

…oh and by the way, they trash the rooms whilst staying there.

@geraldbennett7035 5 ай бұрын

Danger! these judges are trying to find a solution. They dont do that. They decide on legal matter. Are we looking at cities having to provide housing for all who choose not to support themselves? Provide safe parking areas for people to live at? this is absurd. Hold the politicians accountable. No more immigration and enforce public intoxication laws!

@cherylmockotr 5 ай бұрын

This is a good question... they need to differentiate between living in your parked car and sleeping in your car. I like to sleep in my car when I travel. We ALL know the difference between camping and homeless living in their car and junking up a public area, becoming an eyesore.

@julieoliver8170 4 ай бұрын

Its not your car as soon as you registered it under the laws of the United States Corp . A State of ,,,,,, is a federal government Corp.

@angelmatos9143 5 ай бұрын

Who's next, the lower middle class? MAGA's absurdity is creeping into the legal system. 😪

@joemanco-no4jy 5 ай бұрын

Yes, sleeping in your car is if it is unregistered and parked illegally as they do in Seattle. Sotomayor just wants special laws for them and enforcement for you.

@ktcd1172 5 ай бұрын

Not really paid any attention to this case prior to this video. In the past when not at work, I lived in my vehicle for two years, including sleeping in it during the day. I worked all night. I normally did not park on a city street, permitted parking time was too short for sleeping, most were two hour limits on parking. So I parked in the parking lot of various stores or malls or in good weather slept on the grass dividers between parking lot rows. From time to time, management would leave me notes that they were not "Park and Ride" locations and so I would move to a new location for a week or two, sometimes longer. I was employed and so did not consider myself "homeless" just "Houseless". Not sure if legally there is a distinction or not.

@dinosaurus4189 5 ай бұрын

Is the problem sleeping in a vehicle? I think interstate truckers do that all the time.

@fishgutz4272 5 ай бұрын

San Francisco, and at least 4 other cities in CA have dozens, if not hundreds, of teachers sleeping in their cars during the school week because they can't afford to live closer than a 2 to 3 hour rush hour commute from the cities they teach in. SFO is so bad that the city council considered building public housing projects for public employees. LA already has housing projects for public employees. And they look as bad as one would expect public housing projects to look.

@PyrielQuinn 4 ай бұрын

So you can’t pass out in your car anymore better drive it home

@lorigoudreau5203 5 ай бұрын

I can't believe they want to criminalize homelessness

@kevinsouza7744 4 ай бұрын

That's the goal, buy up all the housing and turn us into a nation of renters, criminalize homeless so people have no choice but to purchase from them.

@aleydasosa1134 5 ай бұрын

How many years are homeless people being outside . Why are they worried now. BECAUSE ONG WANTS MONEY FOR ILLIGALS NOT FOR HOMELESS.

@teamridgeback 4 ай бұрын

I’ve lived in vehicles and quite frankly when it’s a car or the stars I’m not much considering the legality of my surroundings…I’m just sleeping in a vehicle. There by the Gods grace go I

@johnathandamron3162 5 ай бұрын

You can see how unfair it is for someone getting prosecuted for anything is, The woman arguing to the supreme Court is so used to having the judge on their she is literally answering the question Yes they are continuing to violate the the city's code, when the simple question is overnight parking allowed anywhere in the city. The prosecution and judges have too close of relationship. Defense attorneys would never be allowed to even divert from the question in any way. They would almost certainly face sanctions or at least the threat of them. Prosecutors get to decide what's even turned over to the defense in terms of evidence, they is almost clear evidence to any criminal case of evidence that can be seen to prove someone's in a sense in some way, The prosecution never turns it over and says they don't see it that way. Sleeping is more than a right, it's essential to life let alone a properly functioning mind. The prosecutor is a monster in this particular case. I lived in Denver went homeless was and still is probably a horrible situation. It's incredibly sad to me, instead of governments worrying about lowering the cost of living, particularly rent prices and housing in general, they choose to outlaw being homeless.

@NishiyamaCurtisArtist 5 ай бұрын

. . . wondering about this, what "rights" does a police officer have to carry out his duty to "police," to community standards vs. his obligated or required duties, limits of duties? What of the instance of a section of town being subject to a new wave of crime that arrived with the "homeless," or a group of vehicles arrives, campers or a stolen item buying and selling operation has set up on the side walk based upon a "homeless encampment," doesn't the officer and the city have a responsibility to the civilization city within their control to reduce the living accommodations to the tax payers. Issue a tax payer privilege card?

@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fh 5 ай бұрын

Sounds like slavery.

@carlosalenduran4630 3 ай бұрын

I live in my car and I sleep in my car if I want to park somewhere and sleep that's my prerogative does nobody's business and if I get arrested for that you know I will sue

@brianphillips9152 5 ай бұрын

If you work a full time job in America, you should be able to afford modest housing, utilities and food w/o government assistance.

@bobbyb.6644 5 ай бұрын

Rewarding bad behavior Just Creates More of It ! If Cities or States set up minimalist camps at Public Expense for their survival - they should be forced to use them ! Create WPA CAMPS as during the Depression - Regain Some Sense of Dignity ( Instead of whining playing the Victim Card) ? Of course the Group EMPLOYED to Take Care of Them would fight tooth and nail TO GROW THE PROBLEM INDEFINITELY ? Media would love the Drama 😢

@Umustbecrazy 4 ай бұрын

The judgesess Should work for the u.s.mint =no argument,case closed 🔒,

@danoman5217 5 ай бұрын

Being Homeless is a status( life style) some choose. Some are forced into being homeless due to many circumstances which they have no control over. Neither is a crime! There are rules and regulations that must be enforced for the wellbeing of society as a whole. Public dedication at one’s convenience is one of those rules. Parking and code enforcement in business or residential areas should be enforced. Unincorporated areas of public land should allow over night sleep camping ect . Not a permanent camp. Public land still has to be maintained at by the local government. There will always be a local rule or law where ever you go.

@terrydillon9323 5 ай бұрын

Was wondering , have many of the people in Government been living in a bubble and not lived out in the world, did they spend most of their time with their nose in a book. Don’t get me wrong, I believe in education and I went to college, but I grew up very poor and knew part of education was to learn about people and the world not just to go study to get some high paying job and give up ethics. I worked hard all my life, paid my taxes but at one point , I came close to loosing everything that I had worked hard for and came close to living on the street. The loving creator sent an Angel among us to save me, my sister. I am not saying I am perfect, we all make mistakes, but we must try to learn.

@jamesweist8599 5 ай бұрын

She doesn't sound very smart

@chrisaycock5965 5 ай бұрын

I live in California we have the largest amount of homeless in the country. The problem stems from how bad our housing situation has gotten and it's becoming a big problem in other states now too. Criminalizing people for something that's no fault of their own is ridiculous. The governments in these states where housing has gotten this bad is the main issue they don't allow for any building so the existing stock of housing keeps rising for everyone who is still willing to pay inevitably forcing people out.

@cfostercvm 5 ай бұрын

The city seems to have a extremely weak case & they are stretching their own laws to fit a crime. There are many nomad travelers that live in their vehicle, rv. skoolie, etc whom are home in them. They work from them, they operate a business from them. Is that camping? I agree the homeless are destroying most everything they touch, but there are laws on the books not currently being used. This very vague set of laws will punish indiscriminately.

@johnjerman3421 5 ай бұрын

what amazes me is the fact both states & federal governments have rules & regulations that deal with the "public use land" under their control. & most of those rules & regulations also deal with these same arguments - it is not about nowhere else to stay it's about not wanting to stay anywhere else -

@Hindukushsailing 5 ай бұрын

Supreme Court needs to work more and vacation less.

@MariaCarmen-wb7gv 5 ай бұрын

Well, there has to be a better way!

@chrisbrimhall1613 5 ай бұрын

But is defecating in the street illegal…..but is doing hard drugs illegal…..is assault illegal? This is also issues of homelessles

@ponderrosie4975 5 ай бұрын

HOMELESS should NOT be granted a special class protection and excepted from current residency laws. And it is twisted imo to use 8th Amendment to do it. Homelessness is a CONDITION. This case SHOULD BE ABOUT RESIDENCY - where someone sleeps. We have zoning and building laws for good reasons. I hope our High Court doesn't go down a dangerous rabbit hole. We have a homeless encampment in our town living on RR easement land. THE HOMELESS chose it probably because the RR provides potential transportation. The railroad had to erect a special fence to protect the line and their trains AND keep the "homeless" off their trains! The easement land is CONSERVATION LAND, It includes a tributary to the major river that provides potable water for people from the Capital county to the Atlantic Ocean. . There are water quality monitors that collect data for the various stream points. The data determines our county's storm water regulation compliance. That encampment is a public health horror! And it finally reached a tipping point when the river was being contaminated by that encampment. The majority who 'reside' there are drug addicts per officials who have investigated the site and occupants. It is no different that squatters in my opinion. Hijacking a location to satisfy a persona desire with zero concern for others. The act needs to be criminal because it causes harm or has the potential to cause harm. Drug addicts chose to cause harm to themselves AND most reach a point where they are a danger to society. These homeless have broken into cars, aggressively panhandled or just mugged people to gain enough money to continue down their self destructive path. It is backwards to me to grant such people special class protection! The other largest segment of the "HOMELSSS" encampment were found to be criminals who have used the encampment to try and avoid detection. The City finally told the occupants they had to move when the bill from the STATE arrived about harm to the state's potable water source! Great efforts, and cost, have been made to place these people in shelters. And right now there is an effort by some to do it all over again. The police arrested four sex offenders who had absconded - not from our state but other states! They also discovered over a dozen who had warrants. I hope the HIGH COURT understands LIBERTY is not a right to cause harm. Our laws must apply to one and all when it comes to residency.

@787UrbanApparel 5 ай бұрын

If Outdoor sleeping is ban ; will not that make housing an utility ??? 😂😂😂

@RohanKumar-zr3pj 5 ай бұрын

Millions of tax dollars are spent on new parks and libraries and politicians take pride innaugrating those. Soon taken over by few homeless and people start avoiding due to safety or hygiene concerns. What a waste. Create public dormitories where you get free bed and restrooms and remove them from public places.

@taylorshelp5046 5 ай бұрын

If you are on private property yes.

@CookingLessonsforDad 5 ай бұрын

What was the final decision?

@Diego-yl2ri 5 ай бұрын

That wont come out till later.

@CookingLessonsforDad 5 ай бұрын

@@Diego-yl2ri It will be interesting.

@julesjames593 5 ай бұрын

How do you define "camp"? Does the car move under its own power once every three days.

@rbwirth12 5 ай бұрын

Yes, unless there are designated places to sleep for a limited amount of time, such as at rest stops. But no parking for longer than 24 hours. Keep it moving.