Is Space Travel Worth It? Spoken Word with Mark Grist

[@EugeneKhutoryansky]

Perhaps several thousand years ago, some of our ancestors were asking, "Is leaving the cave worth it?"

[@RomanNumural9]

wow, I like that thought. kinda inspirational haha

[@HerrBaton]

+Physics Videos by Eugene Khutoryansky If you really think humans have resources to leave Earth you are a total idiot. DO the math. This is the only planet we got, no matter what religious space bullshit you believe. Space travel is a media campaign to keep working peoples minds occupied with "common goal". This is crowd control 1.0.1. GROW THE FUCK UP. It's a SLAVE ECONOMY.

[@HerrBaton]

Codex Astartes wow, really? I'm going to die? INSIGNIFICANT??? And what does SIGNIFICANT mean to you when your dead? The joke is on you man, you follow you programming of "significance" while the whole world is a meaningless slaughter and a joke. You are a perfect slave with his mind set on goals others invent. Do your job then and receive your "eternal significance". I don't mind it. JUST KEEP THE FUCK AWAY FROM MY RESOURCES.

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

Unfortunately, we have proved the cavemen who thought "no" to be right.

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

And now their descendants are thinking: "No. Our ancestors should have stayed in the caves."

[@yoski203]

dont cut space, cut war. youll find more money there

[@gusbisbal9803]

+Yo ski 1% of all defense budgets will pay for ALL the space travel. Yet no one talks about less guns tanks and bombs.

[@BOBOUDA]

+Yo ski And how do you plan on destabilizing middle East without war ? We need an army to attack people who didn't do anything, and finance terrorist group that later will attack Occident.

[@yoski203]

BOBOUDA can we do anything constructive about our hijacked defense department?

[@gryyphyn8639]

+Yo ski Yes. Look in to an Article V Convention of States. A balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that would require more logical spending of defense funds while reducing it. Check out www.conventionofstates.com/problem and you'll see that top on the list of things we want to address with a Convention of States is debt and the budget.

[@yoski203]

Gryyphyn thx ill check it out

[@cortster12]

The better question is, "Can we afford to not invest in space travel?". 3:50 Yep. Also, we would become extinct relatively quickly if we never expanded. Exponential growth on a finite surface area, with limited resources, does not equate a productive or lasting society. Not to mention what happens if an asteroid strike or other astronomical danger brings itself to light. All our eggs on in one basket, and since we have no space program we wouldn't be able to defend ourselves, so we would be screwed.

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

Exactly why we must cut out the exponential growth on this planet, mandate population reduction, outlaw the meat industry & breeding whole animals for meat, invest MASSIVELY into biocultured meat, biotechnology, nanotechnology, and green energy, and live SUSTAINABLY on this planet for a few thousand years before we prove ourselves ready to go elsewhere.

[@yahyah1453]

Exactly, we got to find other basket and that was thorough space exploration!! Waiting for the disaster and an impending doom to happen won't do us any good, us human will die like the dinosaur wipe out of surface of the planet. The only remnants and legacy are the trashed that we left behind under the ocean (´；ω；｀)

[@diGritz1]

GPS was driven by military interests not interest in space travel. As was quite a lot of the tech we now enjoy. We would have it with or without the manned space program. Also this is no longer the 60's many of our advancements now come from research right here on the ground. I love all things space and do not want to see our foray into it end. But lets be honest we are F'ing up the Earth at a greater rate then it can repair itself and what's the primary goal? To enable us to acquire resources that we are running out of here. Whether it be material resources or simply space to accommodate all the future generations to come. We need to place more importance on saving what we have otherwise we are simply going to find another place to F-up.

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

"We would have it with or without the manned space program." True. Correct. We would ALSO have GPS with or without a military or wars.

[@yahyah1453]

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[@grantlillie2096]

Yes, it is worth it. The untapped wealth of our solar system is far more than enough to fund the construction of any future we want.

[@bobmilaplace3816]

+Grant Lillie That and we have to leave the cradle sooner or later or die with the sun

[@HerrBaton]

+Grant Lillie Anyone who doeas the math will know THERE IS NO LEAVING EARTH for humans. There is not enough resources on earth , nor in the solar system. You are spreading mind-programs that have nothing to do with reality.

[@grantlillie2096]

Salomon P The Apollo missions would suggest otherwise. The wealth of the Main Belt alone lies in the quadrillions of dollars. What more is needed?

[@HerrBaton]

Grant Lillie slave labour to build the vehicles and extract it. The costs of travel and preparations exceed the value of those - supposed - resources. The time we get there this civilisation will already reach oblivion. You are hipnotised by NASA's propaganda or simply another employed by the government mafia.

[@grantlillie2096]

Salomon P People tend to go where there is economic opportunity. As the Americans settled the western frontier, so will man settle space. Willingness to go to other parts of the system would mean a large mining labor force. It would be a mistake to assume these resources would be transported back to Earth, however. That is counter to the goal of humanity becoming a multi-planetary species, so the wealth would instead remain on distant worlds to draw settlers from all corners of ours. The cost of a manned colonization mission to the Moon, for example, would cost tens of billions of dollars. The benefit, however, would be access to precious metals, hydrogen-3, and water ice- all of which we can use for further missions.

[@DasPuppy]

And then there always is this: "Why did the dinosaurs go extinct? Because they didn't have a space programme." Dunno who said it, but I love it! And sums it all up pretty nice and neat.

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

+Ron Maple Yes. Defensive. Shoot some nukes up now & then to fend off a killer asteroid. But NO need for humans to go to other planets.

[@karenslivesmatter2186]

@@theultimatereductionist7592 what about the sun running out of juice? We need to go to other stars

[@PrevailingTechnology]

Just a bit of perspective for those on the U.S. side of the pond.The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) estimated that 27% of the Earned Income Tax Credits (EITC) paid out in FY2014 were improper payments. Those "improper payments" amounted to US$17,700,000,000 ($17.7 BILLION).[SOURCE: accountingtoday.com: "Improper EITC Payments Totaled $17.7 Billion in FY2014] Americans spent an estimated US$14,310,000,000 ($14.31 BILLION) associated with the annual Super Bowl football game.[SOURCE: usnews.com: "6 Numbers to Know for Super Bowl Sunday"]The entire National Aerospace and Space Administration (NASA) budget is $18,010,000,000 ($18 BILLION).[SOURCE: spaceflightnow.com: "NASA gets budget hike in spending bill passed by Congress'] In other words, the U.S. spends nearly as much on improper tax credits as it does on the entire NASA budget.

[@samhailes5928]

I remember this guy from his spoken word rap battles against school kids back in the day, love him.

[@shouqalshammari6612]

That is so great thank you!

[@dezent]

I made a promise last night to my 3.5 year old daughter that i will do anything i can to take us to space one day. She really wants to meet Chewbacca and if we can not meet him we can wave at him from the rocket :)

[@JeffreyWong123]

wait, did he said boba fett?

[@jmcenanly1]

The con guy mentions weather catastrophes, but fails to mention that much of our weather prediction is done by satellite imagery.

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

I agree with newspaper-reading guy.

[@tompalmer5986]

I just checked, and NASA's budget for 2021 is roughly 23 billion dollars, a tiny fraction of the defense budget.

[@workgroup8081]

What an unpleasant bloke🇬🇧.😳👊💥

[@IamGrimalkin]

Honestly I find myself agreeing more with the anti-space guy. The other guy's list of technologies sounds a bit off to me; and "99.999% of stuff we don't know is up there" is obviously incorrect, especially since this is talking about space travel and not telecscopes and stuff. And I agree space travel being funded.

[@joshinils]

Telescopes need spacetravel, the ones on earth are not good enough as there still is an atmosphere

[@IamGrimalkin]

+TheJoshinils Good point. Although I would say many earth-based telescopes can be extremely useful.

[@theDuffChimp]

Poetry, now that is a colossal waste of time and effort.

[@DanielSultana]

+theDuffChimp seconded

[@HerrBaton]

+theDuffChimp Poetry uses PERSONAL time, and PERSONAL effort, Space race PUBLIC TIME, and PUBLIC EFFORT, most important PUBLIC RESOURCES. While the result of poetry and space travel is about the same - a fairy tale for children. I don't believe somenone can come up with idiotic argument like this. you are braindead.

[@HerrBaton]

***** Ok, I get it, the government troll army is here. Work that paycheck. But hey - you know what ? - only idiot believes facts without checking them for himself. Space travel is a unsustainable resource sink hole. And migration from this planet is against laws of physics. When you graduate from your position of low level propagandist maybe you will have some time growing A FUCKING BRAIN OF YOU OWN.

[@theDuffChimp]

Salomon P Did you not watch the video? Besides the whole point of space development is to develop the technology. This long term thinking overshoots most of these near sighted morons because it will be hundreds if not thousands of years before humans are able to leave or colonise other solar systems. Gotta start somewhere.

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

"Poetry, now that is a colossal waste of time and effort." Yes! Agreed!

[@BuckyDK]

I say we cut all the sport, and other useless entertainment bullshit and focus on spacetravel..

[@DanielSultana]

+McManybucks ! Sport and all the other useless entertainment bullshit is paid for by the people consuming it. There is nothing to cut there.

[@HerrBaton]

+McManybucks ! But space travel exists exactly only for the entertainment purpose. There is no real value in it, beside hypnotising public with what they can't understand.

[@HerrBaton]

Codex Astartes Work that government paycheck ratface. Everything you've been capable to achieve in your life is writing comments for money. Truly, a pinnacle of evolution. Brave little soldier of her fucking fascist majesty. Who works for your petty existence? You leech. How much food and care have you provided this week to the people around you? Selfish mindless prick. Fighting his imaginary wars for the fascist state. WHAT A CAREER!

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

"Sport and all the other useless entertainment bullshit is paid for by the people consuming it. There is nothing to cut there." Exactly.

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

+Piotr M. Salomon "But space travel exists exactly only for the entertainment purpose." Exactly. Well said.

[@leoclub626]

Very good acting.

[@edschultz9551]

Stopped watching when an argument against space travel cited was that astronauts aren't diverse enough! Lol

[@StephenMortimer]

@2:20 this WHITE MAN'S BURDEN talk is soo tiresome !! Want a REAL TOPIC ?? report on the influence the USArmy has had on your groceries !!

[@dean8147]

glorification to the USA by yet another another American. Lets take it up and knotch. Lets talk about the various benefits the world has gained from the British Empire. It seemed like you were looking for an open political question. There's one. Veteran or not, this constant talk about the US Army is "tiresome"

[@brookssilber]

Whoever starts asteroid mining first will find the first major profits in space.

[@wesleyko7835]

which guy has spoken rap battles?

[@BugSunder]

grist what you doing here man!

[@zinxin]

Mark, you straw-manned the anti-space-spending position. There are far more interesting arguments coming from that side of the table. So even if you don't agree with that side (and I don't either) why not engage with their real arguments?

[@biggsydaboss3410]

+zinxin Personally I think "diversity" issue was a far bigger problem in this video.

[@BookwormHilly]

+Biggsy IsGod But as the guy said, the problem is with people not with space.

[@holleey]

+Maka Crimon arguing that too much money is spent on space travel automatically equates to arguing that it is OK to spend all that money on military? now THAT is an actual full-fledged straw-man my dear.

[@holleey]

***** thanks for the explanation. your reasoning makes sense to me. that's what been missing from your initial comment.

[@biggsydaboss3410]

Hilly H Tell that to the scientist (that landed a rioter on an asteroid) who broke down in tears, because of feminist because of the Internet bullying & harassment he got from feminists. Apparently his shirt was causing a "hostile environment" for women in STEM fields. It's a lot of nonsense & we really need to stop bringing ideologies in to science. The last big occurrence of ideology running rough shod over science, left us with the Dark Ages. They weren't fun for anyone.

[@justkai07_]

Here during corona virus

[@frognik79]

Disliked due to no reference links, will change my mind if they appear.

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

Agreed

[@feldinho]

if there's anything like a reverse straw man, that's it

[@jiggerypoetry1766]

❤️

[@AFGalwayz]

the best answer to this type of nonsense is that we dont spend a lot. we hardly spend anything on space. you cant even really mark it on a tax dollar.

[@kilroywashere1628]

AFGalwayz The ISS is the most expensive construction ever built by humankind. Its total costs were 150 billion dollars. And the funny thing is that it is not being used. The only ones who even have a program to go there are the Russians.

[@justinvernal]

Anything past low earth orbit is.✌🇺🇸

[@ReevansElectro]

Space travel takes a massive amount of energy and that takes a lot of money. Space travel will only be for the rich 1% or even less and will NEVER be available for YOU. Many say that all modern inventions are a result as spinoffs from space travel. I don't believe that is the only way it could have happened. The reality was: space exploration was funded only to create a platform for war. We managed to beat swords into plowshares but why can't we just do great things just because it is a great benefit to mankind? I don't mind putting communication satellites into space but mankind does not need to travel there. There is plenty we can do here on earth.

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

+Robert Evans Well said!

[@daxxonjabiru428]

His twin is a jerk.

[@samuelsalcedo5310]

HAHAHA you think that if we go to space people are gonna unite?! Good luck with that...

[@Royladin]

What a empty video. No qauntitative points. Just jargon.