Is Sparking Zero Dead Already?

[@gyara7329]

Absolutely the kinda game to be played on the couch with the homies. Not some online sweaty tryhard bullshit.

[@SnowRabbit-bq5yc]

That's the unfortunate thing is literally losers who have no outside life want to make everything competitive and are getting mad that the game specifically stated to not be competitive actually turns out to not be competitive

[@Samtheman4240]

Well said

[@AGZhark]

Watch all the competitive elitist Redditors come flooding in telling you otherwise.

[@Arknjoyer]

And that's unfortunate too why is it only online play? Kind of like how Black ops 6 zombies is. Hope I don't see More online only games

[@zomboids2100]

​@@AGZhark Literally; Made my complaints about the meta on a game I play awhile back, and the amount of people's comebacks all boiled down to sweats telling me I'm wrong and get better/play like them, like insults and being condensing will make me enjoy the game. But also are the same ones who'll scream loudly if devs apply some nerfs to their meta.

[@zuniversal1]

It's also worth noting the game sold 3 MILLION copies, meaning there's still 300,000 players playing online in a non competitive fighter. That's still a pretty decent player base.

[@EnderGoku9001]

yepperoni

[@locosword3985]

Correction: I know that this 90% is only talking about Steam, because the only recorded info is on Steam losing 90% of it’s players, which is likely the lowest fanbase since most people want to play on console since Controller is the best way to play.

[@aa7146]

@@locosword3985you..you know controllers work on steam right? Nobody bought that bitch ready to play on MnK

[@zuniversal1]

@locosword3985 Fair, also I believe the 3 million is from the 1st 24 hours. So the player base is likely even higher.

[@sameeahmad6592]

This is based off of the steam statistics; the all time peak of 122000 cocurrent players versus the current 11500

[@aidanmilne6865]

Just hope this doesn’t mean they’ll stop working on the game, I’d really love to see more maps and characters.

[@bigpapan.g3245]

They will undoubtedly continue. The game sold *over 3 Million copies in the first 24h.* Going down to even 10% of just the launch purchases still leaves the game with *over 300k ongoing players* after the game has been out for over a month. These are still impressive numbers and more than enough to consider an ongoing presence. Should we expect the same longevity _Xenoverse 2_ got? Probably not... that is more decided by DLC sales and ongoing DB content. - _Xenoverse 2_ released alongside DBS airing, was huge for its DLC potential and relevancy.

[@colinward6737]

They will. To this day FighterZ and Kakarot get updated.

[@imgokuuu_]

​​@@bigpapan.g3245 currently 5k players online. 22k average this whole month. Dying faster then you think. Many things in the game that destroys all the fun. It should be unbalanced and a more casual experience but the borderline broken sh*t needs to be looked at. Its turning many people away.

[@_nRool]

There’s a season pass in the works so there will be new stuff, just paid for.

[@goldenninja9053]

Dude, Xenoverse 2 was supported for years if not still being supported to this day. You have nothing to worry about lol.

[@BloxTheMvp]

The star that burns twice as bright, only lasts half as long

[@sanitt1563]

Oh so that's what Zeke and Cole were talking about in Infamous 2

[@Meddadius]

I immediately thought of Zeke and Cole

[@BevinEG]

Twice as bright, half as long.... *zzzzap* *pow*

[@marcellocovington3822]

Hahaha! Scruffy👍

[@Mr.Grimm2001]

INFAMOUS GAMES MENTIONED 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@NogoodKookster]

Doesn't matter I'm still going to rock yo shit as Roshi

[@Micah-pn6pd]

Nah I'm a little Goku main

[@SpikeyEnigma]

roshi is cheesy anyway to be honest if its the normal form, afterimage strike and unblockable fast ultimate :skull:

[@largefather9918]

let me guess, afterimage strike and unblockable super spam?

[@takeyourmedsplz]

You're going to spam an unblockable super and still losem

[@Unk0wn_stalk3r]

**may i breakdance on yamcha

[@Carneasada9]

It's crazy that people have been so brainwashed by live service that people don't realize that they already made their money. The game isn't failing; it's already succeeded.

[@lordsafro]

boom

[@blastbomb2798]

There only has to be like 50 players for multiplayer to be fun. The game has a thousand times that. Anyone calling it dead needs to play more singleplayer games

[@johntron3849]

money =success- is why gaming is in the state it’s in regardless if it’s live service or not .

[@morbid333]

They do the same with offline singleplayer games too, and I don't know why. To quote Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines: "It doesn't matter if you win the game, only that you bought it."

[@jeremybrown9611]

I'm not saying it failed at all. But engagement matters just as much as sales in this day and age.

[@gregdeandrea1450]

Competitive Players: HOW DARE A FIGHTING GAME BE DESIGNED FOR FUN. God I hate Multiplayer Only Bros.

[@YunGGenO77]

Agreed 💯

[@crimsonchin8916]

Yea like you can’t play any games online nowadays without it being a sweat fest of meta stuff. Like cmon man try new things.

[@theflashfan3234]

Let them play the way it's fun for them. You play the way it's fun for you. If you play for fun, you shouldn't be too concerned with win or loss, so why care if the other person is "sweating" or not?

[@oreoloki8872]

@@theflashfan3234cuz thanks to them, the game runs the risk of shutting down now due to their horrible takes and reviews

[@anelamndi1685]

​@@crimsonchin8916 elden ring dlc is maaaaad cheese I don't even play pvp no more 😢

[@sol6287]

As a top 10 piccolo main. Playing characters that you don’t see actually is fun and when you do beat a top tier the feeling is euphoric

[@HaruBunni]

Beating a fusion with someone like videl or pan fuels my dopamine receptors

[@randomsamurai3855]

Real i made a fusion player rage quit as kid goku

[@randomsamurai3855]

Real i made a fusion player rage quit as kid goku

[@Blueflame22455]

@@sol6287 yep but that’s why they also need to start banning people. Then all of our happiness would be complete lol. Outplaying+ragequit=undefinable euphoria 😂

[@jacksixterror]

I don't play online a lot but I agree with this statement. I decided to main Pan for shts and giggles, learned all her moves, tripped her out with good items and I once beat a whole team of fusions with just her. God did that feel great

[@goats4life323]

Man I hate how this generation is so eager for stuff to die and fail, everyone just seems so excited to declare 'so and so is DEAD'

[@sagemaster1357]

And then they brag about it on the internet which seems to thrive on hate and negativity.

[@TTTTyme]

There were people who saw through the hype. People don’t have to be positive about everything. The game is lacking significantly and is cut and paste code in a lot of places.

[@sirkelendor5429]

This isnt eagerness, the internet thrives off of sensationalism, the gaming media reflects that. Gaming "news" sites know if they report on some shit like this they get attention

[@jairusjackson7799]

Yeah, I noticed that too. They love to declare something is dead, or tear down someone after supporting them on the rise.

[@joachimikuenobe599]

I ABSOLUTELY agree. The lack of investment in local split screen broke my heart when I first heard about it. You can't create a game that draws on the hype of nostalgia but then ignore the main thing that inspires that same nostalgia

[@diegodunn-humphrey512]

Common landai l

[@yaboysix]

Wait....there's no Local split screen?!

[@arealfuckingvampire1555]

@@yaboysix There is but it is limited only to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.

[@cederajunior4054]

@@yaboysixbut it’s ass You can play only one map and people are still saying it’s a party game like in the old days.

[@yaboysix]

@@cederajunior4054 damn! Seriously, one location!? I wonder why

[@ArchonKujo]

Sparking Zero is a game that isn't meant to take seriously on, And yes I do agree, I despise people that only chose characters that are hype, I would want to see more players use characters that are not really that notable such as Nail or Cui, use characters that are not God like level will probably live up to some hype in my personal opinion

[@chriss.249]

"Lns: Characters nobody uses" anyone? I remember he did that in xemoverse 2 too That's always been the issue with db games. Playing certain op/meta characters

[@ce581]

I saw a nail main rock the shit of a gogeta and other meta characters in a lobby. Its refreshing.

[@bigred212]

The way people talk about sparking is how I and most people view yugioh master duel It's more toxic then min 0 Chernobyl but with the homies it's peak. Don't have to pull out gogeta or z broly or ssj vegito You can just chill and actually enjoy the company of the person you play against 💀

[@ArchonKujo]

@@ce581 I've always wanted to main Nail so bad

[@ce581]

@@bigred212 me and my homie play online and we choose each others characters. Had to use a radditz against a gogeta.

[@ninjaboyjames]

Don't disturb the grill master. Piccolo be humbling kids since day 1

[@ashuraomega1000]

To be fair, this is basically the fate of most modern games today

[@SonicSpeedGaming759]

@@ashuraomega1000 with so much other stuff coming out with the same concept it's pretty much "We did the campaign, I whooped some online a$$, now I'm gonna again with another game"

[@slicky3397]

Yep

[@zer0_iz_d34d]

Everyone thought Wukong and Space Marine 2 were gonna be the best thing ever and both of those died in under a month

[@Blacktoothoneil]

@@zer0_iz_d34dwell Wukong is a single player game, so it falling off in player numbers make sense cuz it’s not meant for continuous play, it’s a single experience, and a damn good one. On the space marine 2 subject, yeah pretty much, it was good but people overhyped it and acted like it’d be the next left for dead 2 or some shit.

[@zer0_iz_d34d]

@@Blacktoothoneil I have a friend that loves helldivers and he even said it best, it’s funny how everyone was leaving helldivers for sm2 and how sm2 was gonna kill it and then sm2 had less players after 2 weeks than helldivers has had all year

[@umbreonzx8308]

What kills me the most is even when you start winning, these fools leave mid match just to keep their rank

[@tnecniw]

They are such pussies. Using OP characters for easy wins and then when they are about to lose they bail. Essentially ”allowed” cheating.

[@MrAwesomeMatty]

That's why Namco Bandai is looking to start perma banning people who do this, regardless of bad connection or intentional ragequitting.

[@tinySirius]

@@MrAwesomeMatty perma banning seems a bit much imo. combat-logging should just be counted as a loss

[@johngibson1435]

U lose rank if you back out and u gain rank if someone backs out on you. Speaking from actually watching it happen to me.

[@CaptKami18]

​@@johngibson1435That doesn't happen. Currently, the match just becomes null. You don't gain any points, you don't lose any if you rage quit, the match just gets voided like it didn't happen. The only thing they changed is that if you quit too many times, you get temp banned.

[@detectivecotton6824]

Give players 1000 options and they’ll only see 1

[@jaymercer4515]

Brawled it out of our systems, and it was never meant for online multiplayer. Now I'm getting back to other games since I ran the legendary fades I've been waiting over a decade for.

[@leoneyamada5408]

You could not live with your own failures... And where did that bring you? Back to me - XENOVERSE 2

[@SmotheryAxe1414]

its a couch play game in an era where there are no couches

[@JokerP5]

I highly doubt they made it intending it for couch play, when you consider local multiplayer only supports 1 stage

[@jahnybravo2168]

​@@JokerP5yea but OPs point is that the game series it's continuing from has always been a couch play game, and that's what made it so popular in the first place. so them not intending to make it couch play only process why it's premise doesn't fit the era it's made in

[@SirVolt]

​@@JokerP5yeah why the fuck did they do that? That's stupid as hell

[@TheGrayFox3012]

@@JokerP5 yeah this is a cope fanboys like to tell them selves to justify SpikeChunsoft designed the game badly

[@pandaboss5085]

​@@TheGrayFox3012 it was said multiple times the game was never supposed to be competitive

[@scottdilly7975]

It's like the online competitive people forgot how to have fun

[@terppa6341]

Crazy how a game made for couch play with the homies, added local multiplayer as an afterthought.

[@jacobsawyer5204]

And its not even any good they just stick you in the hyperbolic time chamber thats the only local multiplayer map

[@kristopherhayes1957]

​@@jacobsawyer5204I think the reason why is because the game couldn't handle the frames if it was the actual maps.

[@pincushionjolt6054]

​@kristopherhayes1957 that's the funny thing. It very easily can, and modders have made it possible within 5 days of release, with from my knowledge, no frame drops at all

[@TippedScale]

​@@kristopherhayes1957Genuine question, how can it handle the online mode?

[@terppa6341]

Btw if y'all play on pc you can just download a mod that lets y'all play on any map. Also I heard the reason why it's only the hyperbolic time chamber is because the XBOX couldn't handle the other maps from two perspectives.

[@opadrip]

They're also not accounting for other systems and people who don't play online. Sparking Zero was never gonna be a game with non-stop online play and tournament scenes at Evo.

[@theothesir]

Hell no! We played the ol BT/SP games to have fun with friends and talk hella ish trolling. Folks need to resurrect FIGHTERZ if they feeling sweaty.

[@spookyjenkins7779]

Honestly yeah a lot of the time I play with friends and story mode lol random online matches

[@fishinwizard6]

Straight up; if they’re only counting online matches in the player base, then it could be people just like me: I only played online to get that 100 online matches achievement, idgaf about ranked, I even let people win to speed things up, and since then I’ve been doing story mode and playing offline vs

[@schoolofdank5736]

@@fishinwizard6People got to much time on their hands, they don’t even touch story/custom, straight to ranked to moan about nothing. Cod out here making the same game every year but people still buy it despite their whining. As a 26 year old who can’t game for 10 hours a day im not surprised some people feel like the game has little content when they be clocking in 300 hours already. Should Dp be tweaked sure, should the most picked characters be swapped around sure. Doods can’t even wait a month or two for a damn update relax and do something else 😂

[@Kwizzy8406]

Him casually saying that the 90% that left has no friends.

[@Dr_D549]

Well folks it's about damn time

[@jorgepinto912]

And you guys wanted my thouths on the latest sparking zero news

[@ultraxana3106]

So let’s get into it

[@insomnium369]

apparently only 10% of players remain on sparking zero after a few weeks

[@emanuelstornello8009]

​@@insomnium369am I surprised? NOPE cause I talked about this sh*t a few days ago

[@NinjaMike99]

​@emanuelstornello8009 Online and a new competitive nature of this generation is killing this type of game

[@Godzmin]

You are so right about it being a PARTY GAME but it's also a fighting game and massive drop off after launch is an absolute regular even street fighter 6 only has 12k on average players when it was 70k at peak

[@blankshadow2050]

It didn't fall off though it's working as intended. I never even knew this was available on steam. Mostly been seeing Lan games

[@andrew4446]

@@blankshadow2050😐

[@oinkyshploinky]

70k to 12k after entire year of life for SF6 is WAY smaller drop than 90% after roughly a month. The reason SZ is falling off is simply because it is not a well designed fighting game, balance-wise. OF COURSE if you create a roster with characters that are simply objectively and undoubtedly better than all the others, EVERYONE is gonna play exactly only those characters, or else they are gonna lose. Fighting games need to be balanced across their entire roster. There needs to be unique pros and cons to every character so that everyone can choose whoever they like and still have a fair chance at winning. SZ does not have that, so people are getting bored, because they can't grind their skills on it without choosing the OP characters they don't want to choose.

[@Godzmin]

​@@oinkyshploinky the other stat you arent looking at is that this is specifically an anime fighting game which DOES see large drop off in a simple month because of niche fandoms. I.E. DB Fighterz from 45k to 14k in the first month, Storm 4 from 5k to 1k, and Demon slayer from 8k to 2k in a month. SZ was never meant to be balanced and we were warned of such so if people are mad about it just realize its an arcade/party game and dont take it so seriosuly

[@24trn27]

@@oinkyshploinky not even just that y’all are only looking at the steam numbers. There are also players still playing the game on console and considering that 3 million people bought the game the first day? That number is probably higher than 3 million so 300 K doesn’t really seem that low.😂

[@GhostGuy99]

The funny thing about this to me? This is literally Brawlhalla in a nutshell. Not even kidding, you could literally change "Sparking Zero" to "Brawlhalla" and the context wouldn't change. • 30-ish characters but people play the same ones again and again • Cheesing the hell out of characters like Orion and Queen Nai • Getting salty and rage quitting when their cheesing doesn't work against someone who deals with shit like this like it's Tuesday • Pretty much only designed for couch gaming with how fucked online is I'm just surprised that the game hasn't died yet.

[@nejthegreat]

Again, this is only on PC, when the vast Majority of its Fanbase and players is on PS5

[@PANDORA3.0]

which is still a smaller number even compared to ps4 users.

[@coopermogensen4107]

It’s still a decline doesn’t matter if it’s pc stats the game is losing players fast. 😢

[@Prevxral]

@@PANDORA3.0this game istn even on ps4 💀

[@PANDORA3.0]

@@Prevxral what I mean is the number of ps4 users is still a lot compared to people who use a ps5, so it makes more sense for the PC player base to be way bigger, since it's only limited to the ps5.

[@ML-eq4rx]

So wrong...Crazy how yall ps players have an ego over being a ps player

[@godzillaslayer5817]

Some people don’t got homies to sit on the couch with

[@fatguygetsmad6954]

But the point still stands

[@godzillaslayer5817]

@ just saying not everyone has friends

[@miah5561]

​@@godzillaslayer5817 find friends

[@deathgazereaper2130]

@@fatguygetsmad6954no if you don’t like the competition don’t play online. Or find a group it’s easy.

[@kingofnonation5843]

Build your own cpu tourneys

[@littlebigb5370]

I know sweats and tryhards have always existed, but I hold the idea that e-sports and competitive gaming have slowly poisoned legitimately great casual games that the developers or the players demand be or become competitive.

[@CyberKingNova]

I got another thing too that I think is contributing. Back in the day when we were kids, we didn't have a job and couldn't get as many games as we can now. So when we got a game we ran that game into the ground for hours and hours because who knew when we get another game. Nowadays, we can buy a game and jump to another one quickly and our expectations for games weren't as high then as they are now at least for me since even if a game was mid I didn't know any better I was just happy to be playing with some of my favorite characters.

[@Ore_Jo]

This, and as we get older, we have less time. An adult might set aside a few days to play a new game, but they eventually have to go back to work

[@SpiderKurisu]

Facts!!! I was only allowed to get a new game on either my birthday or Christmas so when I did, I played that game for so long it became second nature 😂

[@irregulargamer1352]

yup. I used to buy games when they released and get so hype for them. now I just add it to my wishlist and get hyped when a window of time opens for me to play it. im sure sparking zero is fun but I'm busy with another game currently

[@JimsyFlimsy]

​@@Ore_Jo I disagree. The only player base that exists is not just the people who were young when BT3 came out. There is a massive, immediately-available market of videogames to play now. Before it was pretty limited, but now there are tons of great games to play, and the list keeps slowly growing. People can play old and new games and still have fun. I think it has something to do with wanting to try lots of different games. I use my nephew as an example, his library is MASSIVE, from somewhat obscure indie titles to the most recent AAA obsessions, he plays them all, but has very little play time in each, with only a few longer play times for story games obviously. I digress, my point is the market is very heavily saturated, for better and for worse.

[@007odc]

I agree with u, back when these games came out no one was getting games like that, the gaming industry was still independent for the most part, so if you wanted to know how good a game was, you had to buy and play it, or hear about it through word of mouth…so there was a limitation even if you could afford games…all we had was maybe some quick game informer look up that wasn’t fully fleshed out, or you were in gamestop/funkoland looking at the back of game cases to see if a game peaked your interest….now were in a time that days before a game even drop i can watch a whole play through on YT to see how it is….it’s just a different time

[@Plant-c9p]

The VILE combos I’ve seen coming out of people playing Chiaotzu though 😂

[@windstyle2026]

Nah chiaotzu is underrated, the way I beat a super gogeta player using him was insane 😭

[@RivieraFromRiviera]

a chiaotzu player actually gave me a goddamn tour of the hyperbolic timechamber while i was trying to play baby

[@Plant-c9p]

@ I think I’ve seen a video of that from the Chiaotzu player’s end 💀

[@geraldocasiano5047]

Majin Vegeta is definitely one of my favorites since back in the day, nice to see a vid on him.

[@SniperJoJo-fo9su]

I play lord beerus, but not because he’s meta but because he’s my favorite dragon ball character lol

[@Acnologia-r3g]

Same

[@Forsaken-Legionary]

The same can be said for me (a gogeta db super and fusion reborn player that plays offline battle). I don't play him to get better and "learn his meta" I just play for fun and because I like the character

[@MoeenKhalil-db6fu]

And that's fine, you can play meta characters, but play multiple characters and don't cheese and rage quit (Not saying you do, saying the fan base does)

[@fatguygetsmad6954]

That's how you are supposed to play it lol

[@randomsamurai3855]

I play kid goku and yamcha cause im on DB and i love those characters from the og

[@itisnot7671]

They should definitely add a room feature where you can banish specific characters you don't want to see so others can join

[@TheAbysssarian]

🤣🤣🤣

[@theworsttriangle3555]

and this is why you use the goat chiaotzu. he is surprisingly good at making people lose

[@MoeenKhalil-db6fu]

Although they can fix online, i dont think this is the devs fault in any way. People are just bums and like ruining games because it makes then feel important.

[@jacob7649]

Its the devs fault

[@lewismartin3430]

​@jacob7649 ah yes. It's the devs fault for making the game in the first place. That's what you sound like

[@star-rock6466]

I agree that sweats are annoying, but the devs definitely have something to do with it. Like, the moment you make it online and push it, you are asking for people to be competitive. That's never gonna stop, so they should have through about it. I mean, if other games like this one work and are successful, why does this one struggle ? There's obviously a problem. And I'm not saying the devs are bad obviously, they did a good job, but to make it last longer they should have done something different, like making the online more entertaining

[@lucky4d725]

​@@jacob7649bait

[@Solidekans84]

Or, just be better at the game. But I know that statement is just gonna set you goofs off 😂

[@simpleclean2468]

It's like Ultimate Ninja Storm when they picked busted characters and still get swept

[@elliottcrain3097]

the last statement is so true, the game is super fun with the homies especially if yall are DBZ fans screaming Kamehamehas at each other lol

[@TheRealWoopSlap]

Losing 90% of your player base within a month is bad, but even then, having 9k concurrent players on PC alone is still impressive for an anime game. They just need to address the glaring issues (rage quitters, moves not registering, etc) to encourage players to return. For ranked mode, my recommendation would be for them to implement more options for online matches. First, add a more casual mode alongside ranked. Within both modes, players could choose to turn on & off certain features (they already have this, but there isn't much to choose from). For example, an option to turn off Sparking Mode would be great, or they could introduce a mode where all characters deal the same amount of damage. This way, it wouldn’t just be about spamming Sparking Mode or stalling, & it would promote actual skill.

[@stringisacrow5959]

I haven't really seen any glaring issues if you meant balance wise then you missed the point of the video

[@Android-Twenty-One]

​@@stringisacrow5959 I believe that would be the people quitting a match, that's the only issue since they aren't punished for leaving or disconnecting and makes the entire fight a waste of time since you don't level up or get XP. It can be a simple fix like in Legends.

[@danielgedeon6454]

9k only After 1 month IS a crazy drop tho

[@Caragoner]

A character filter would be absolutely nice considering I know most people want to filter out certain characters

[@randomsamurai3855]

Dp mode is practically casual mode

[@felipo_galaxy1853]

No, that kind of drop off on player count is extremely common. Plus the game sold millions so there are still hundreds of thousands of players

[@punani_slayer4209]

Plus most people only bought it because of the hype they saw online. They never even played the OG series

[@eeveongaming9597]

I can't stop playing it. It's so good. I love the online I'm making 17z rn

[@KirbyLinkACW]

I miss single player experiences.

[@Siegmernes]

Play Indie Games. That's where it's at. CRPGs are also having a resurgence if you want Double A titles.

[@unknownfigure]

There are the custom stories. If you are trying to find an actual good custom you definitely gotta dig deep. Some people do have consistency in their custom stories that is interesting. Again you gotta dig deep on those since the top front pages have not changed yet since october.

[@garfleguy]

What r u talking ab? There's thousands of indie singleplayer games released everyday, and they're some of the best games i've ever played. Bonus: they're not 70 dollars LMAO

[@minismallists]

The only reason someone would say this is if they keep looking at triple A slop, there are plenty of good single player experiences coming out every month

[@mrmister9860]

kakarot is a thing blud

[@ANDROID_25Altima]

Valid point. Even if the online is atrocious, the other aspects of the game, like Custom Battles, What-If arcs, Tournaments, and other cool features make the game great. I completely understand why online has killed the game essentially. The Tenkaichi games were NOT made for online after all...

[@jacob7649]

What ifs mid Custom battles mid Tournaments sucks

[@jacob7649]

6.5/10 game

[@EternalStorm796]

​@@jacob7649 7 for me.

[@BlackHG_yt]

​@jacob7649 how can custom be mid you make it yourself 1/10 review

[@EternalStorm796]

My comment is gone...

[@pc4mlc451]

You're 100% right. I'll be buying this game when it goes on sale to play with my homies with couch co-op.

[@ninjaswithguns]

It's ok sparking zero, it's not you, it's us

[@jkingjay9545]

Id say it's like 50 50. The game basically vanish wars

[@raymondportis192]

Competitive player’s biggest fear: Post nerf Yajirobe, Ginyu

[@JokerP5]

Ginyu getting nerfed?? Why?

[@raymondportis192]

@ don’t worry he’s not

[@Wakish0069]

I'm a Ginyu main and I doubt he'll be nerfed

[@EmberTheFlareon3579]

I do understand Yajirobe tho. That senzu works wonders.

[@notoriousyolkhound4600]

This happens with literally every single game. On release day theres a bunch of players, it remains consistent if not a bit lower, then people stop playing as frequently. this is not a surprise

[@ACW-dn9wb]

A local party game with the homies when you can only play on 1 stage? The devs failed at that too.

[@kahlif990]

That wasn’t even the devs fault tho the company wasn’t going to add it in the first place the only reason they did is cause the devs saw how much people wanted and told the higher ups to let them that’s not their fault

[@ACW-dn9wb]

@kahlif990 Well its the company's fault then, for not fleshing out key aspepcts of the game. Even if it means longer release time. Make sure your game is a game first and foremost.

[@Android-Twenty-One]

I believe that was a problem for the console versions since they didn't want split screen. Although on PC all stages have Split Screen option by simply getting a mod that enabled it.

[@kahlif990]

@ that’s the problem the company doesn’t cared as long as it makes money they would not have care however when you review the devs you can tell they generally liked making the game and were big fans of old tenkaichi it sucks they get hoed by higher ups to rush in fact there were rumors of them adding cross play in the future but it disappeared …pain….🫠

[@8bitdiedie]

@@kahlif990So it’s a key feature of the game that has allowed all previous BT game to have the legacy they have… and somehow they only decided to add it (and very badly, might I add) because people kept requesting it? Man, these devs are truly dogshit.

[@StardewCarrot]

Weren’t you the one who went “I don’t wanna hear you complain when I pick an OP character”?

[@8bitdiedie]

Sparking Zero fans in a nutshell. They boast about being the most hardcore players and then when it turns out they suck (cause they only ever fought their shitty 12 year old brother on BT3), all of a sudden it’s ‘too serious’ and people need to ‘pick other characters’.

[@StephonZeno]

Seriously... They wanted the game to be unbalanced and broken for the sake of nostalgia, and complain that the game is unbalanced and broken. It's Wow Classic all over again.

[@kauanjos3199]

Hypocrisy at it's finest

[@sonicboom126]

I'm glad I know I'm not missing out on anything.

[@maorfahima7315]

I think the yamcha games are the PERFECT solution for online play with different characters,it’s soo fun with no losing rank and getting to play different characters.

[@ultradeathboy]

Was so hoping for splitscreen, but it only works for hyperbolic time chamber

[@dylansepper]

Of your on PC, there is a mod for that. Fixes it right up to be usable on any map. No dice on Xbox, Sorry.

[@Flipitmixit]

Yes we need more stages for normal and splitscreen play, and more costumes and characters. Offline play for the win

[@gabrielvega1374]

*EXCUSE ME, WHAT⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️*

[@Fictional_Nerd_EDITZ]

For real! Every game that comes out now has to be competitive for some reason. Games for me are supposed to be FUN. Fuck being competitive. Just enjoy the game and have fun instead of making everything a competition. Edit: I just wanna clarify that I don't have a problem with being competitive. I myself like some competition every now and then. My main problem stems from people making EVERY game they come across competitive even if the game is clearly made to not be competitive and then crying online that this game isn't competitive.

[@vegetashairline3060]

FR, im hard stuck in B rank because i play whoever i want to, not the meta picks, and i dont spam. Im fine with it, because ive seen how mfs play in A2 and higher, just nothing but CHEESE

[@SnowRabbit-bq5yc]

​@@vegetashairline3060 fr felt this on a personal level I was literally stuck in b rank for a week or so I believe. Crazy to think with all these characters people wanna play them just because they're good and only care about a win screen vs having fun

[@matthewtartt9422]

Competitive is fun.

[@deathgazereaper2130]

Cause people like to compete. It sounds like you’re mad not many people wanna play like you.

[@Fictional_Nerd_EDITZ]

@@deathgazereaper2130 My problem is not being competitive. Some games encourage that. My problem steams from making EVERY game a competition. Some games aren't supposed to be competitive at all. I'm not angry at all. I'm just stating my opinion on this.

[@SionBVicious]

I’ll never forget the time they had tourneys for ultimate ninja storm 4, it blew my mind for the same reason, it’s perfect to play every so often as a change of pace for me tho ngl

[@theflashfan3234]

I'm gonna be honest, the fanboys keep moving the goalposts with this game, and everyone has a different idea of what this game is """supposed""" to be. People who complained about the lackluster single player content and the half-assed local multiplayer were told that "that's not what Tenkaichi is about, it's about the fights and the devs are focusing on multiplayer." So now people are complaining about the delay based online, with no crossplay, no ragequit penalty, and stupid easy defense of this game that turns it into a UNS vanish war x10, and now the goalpost has shifted to "actually this game is about chilling with friends, and ranked ruins it". People keep parroting that they "don't want to sweat" and want to "play for fun," and complaining about people online picking Fusions and DBS characters to "just to win". But my brother in christ if you are so obsessed with winning that not being able to do so negatively affects your enjoyment of the game, then YOU are the sweat. Not to mention the fact that of course people are gonna pick the fucking fusions and OP DBS characters because they're some of the most popular characters in the franchise. A lot of the discourse surrounding this game has just been a constant stream of cope from people that aren't nearly as good as they thought they were, and people unable to come to terms with the fact that the game itself is lackluster in offline content and online features, and has a rather shallow combat system, which leaves nothing for a player to want come back for after a month.

[@8bitdiedie]

Just gonna copy/paste this here cause it’s relevant: -It’s supposed to be played by homies who come over? And yet there’s barely any couch multiplayer and most multiplayer options are exclusive to online -It’s not supposed to be played seriously? And yet there’s a ranked mode with far more options than couch multiplayer. -It’s unbalanced on purpose so that it can have lore-accurate powerscaling? And yet Yajirobe is higher tier than Beerus in ranked. -The game is just supposed to be fun? And yet it somehow seizes to be fun the moment someone puts actual effort into it and becomes better than you? -You like this game because you get to demolish bad players with your fave character online? And yet you just complained you hate people being too good at this game and demolishing bad players like you online. Y’all need to stop glazing this game so hard, cause it’s causing y’all to lie through your teeth. You can’t claim the game is SUPPOSED to be a certain way, when that game has done very little to actually achieve that, and done a lot more to achieve the opposite.

[@ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970]

The point of tenkaichi was never just the fights, the main point of the game was SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD STORY AND FUN GAME MODES! We got a mid story mode with maybe a few good what ifs but like half the roster wasnt even used in it! None of gt is ever gonna be seen if you just play what the game gives you unless you very rarely run into one in the tournament mode. Dbs broly and gogeta would never need to be used, and god forbid you like any of the other movie characters. Theres no content for anything besides custom battles, which arent even that fun unless youre online! Wheres dragon sim, ultimate battle, that game mode with a bunch of missions that you unlock IN dragon sim, you got so much more to do that we dont have here, it got turned into a fighting game and im pissed.

[@8bitdiedie]

@@AtlasRyukThe glazing is truly unreal

[@OnlyLiarGameFan]

​@@AtlasRyukIf you really think Street Fight or Guilty Gear have shallow combat, then you merely lack a understanding of it. Take a watch of this video titled "my explanation of footsies" (if I'm not misremembering its title) to have even a fraction more appreciation and understanding of their complexity.

[@doggydude2668]

i agree with most of what you said but i think you misunderstood at the part about being competitive. i think what they mean is they wanna play a game and wanna be able to play the game without having to put a massive amount of effort into it but if they don't it's mostly just gonna be getting stomped

[@twobrosincorporated]

I’m still playing. I have never touched online, I’ve made custom battles, done the story, and played with my family in local split-screen. I’m playing like the good ol’ days, as the good lord intended. And you know what? I’m enjoying every moment. I love this game, and even months down the line I’ll still hop on occasionally and play for kicks.

[@maidenofiron]

Same!

[@MysticGospel]

Same, I knew how I was going to play this game long before it came out.

[@escanormorph1883]

"Good ol' days"? How many maps can you play with your fam on local splitscreen?

[@Oath13K]

@@escanormorph1883 That’s not even that big of a deal lol

[@escanormorph1883]

@@Oath13K if you weren't the type of person to play local multiplayer on the previous tekaichi series or budokai series with your fam indoors then i doubt you'd understand my situation

[@ApexRoyals]

Its a game you dont keep playing but a game you come back to. Its good to have these types of games in your back pocket for when you get bored😂.

[@calebroberson7264]

I fought all the characters you mentioned (especially the Gogeta mains) with Great Sayainman and almost all the time they rage quit because I won’t let them Spark.

[@suneater98]

Don't worry, I'll still be playing

[@thisguy1177]

Real rap. I only played this game with my sisters and brother on the couch and it was hella fun.

[@nathanbrownlee9276]

Absolutely agree, it’s a shame that when I want to play with friends on a couch, we can only fight in the Hypersonic Lion Tamer

[@johnnyf3894]

Ok one more try 😂

[@nathanbrownlee9276]

@ Hyperglycemic Crime Chamber

[@johnnyf3894]

@@nathanbrownlee9276 lmao best thing whenever I see a sparking zero post is the DBZA comments

[@AgentVenom95]

I mean, the moment they saw all of these overpowered characters, they knew it was not going to be balanced

[@euclid-broccoli]

I'm still having so much fun with this game. even in ranked when people run boring cheese comps and meta characters, it makes it all the more satisfying to make them hold the L when I dunk on them with tien and piccolo

[@matthewlawrence4899]

The salt is unreal though, too many people spamming fusions and closing the game when they get their arse handed to them and then you find them moaning

[@dg7k]

Yurp b/c when playing in person there is no complaints, no whining, just getting gud. And unfortunately the gaming Gen today aren't trying to go to the homies house and start the game tournament with the homies.

[@Hippersinac]

Meant to be a local multiplayer game but only got one map for it is crazy!

[@zomboids2100]

Smash bros final destination Sparking zero edition

[@romart03]

what's crazy is you dont even know thats because of the limitations of the consoles.

[@shayx5168]

​@@romart03 What's crazy is you don't know the devs said it was a choice. The systems played a part, but they just didn't want to move the resources away from their other modes.

[@ZodiacTatoo]

@@shayx5168 Yall are both right but I do think they made that decision BECUZ they know the consoles can’t handle it. The Xbox Series S has a history of split-screen problems with other games and becuz of Xbox policy that the S and X have to be the same game, developers have been deciding to drop the split-screen altogether and rare occasions Xbox will make exceptions like BG3 having split-screen on the Series X but not the series S.

[@8bitdiedie]

@@romart03Then they should’ve developed it for an older console if the mighty PS5 can’t handle it 😂 Pathetic.

[@LieftheDragon]

This game is still legendary. And holy hell, it NOT DEAD!! These comment sections call ANY GAME dead these days! ITS STILL GOT FIVE FIGURES!!! THATS MORE THAN MOST BATTLEFIELD GAMES!!

[@DaichiOkami]

I mean 10% is still a lot considering sparking was the highest played game by a ling shot om release.

[@jaxcouch7819]

BO6 had four times the amount💀

[@cerebralassassin2185]

​​@jaxcouch7819 bo6 is gonna have a steeper decline tho. I guarantee bo6 was only higher too cause it's on gamepass.

[@starsilverinfinity]

I’m also pretty sure that this is normal for most games anyways - after the honey moon people start doing other things 10% is still pretty good out of that I’ve seen games drop by 95+%

[@marcoamazo]

And this is why I prefer the single player mode over multiplayer, if I’m gonna fight someone, I’d rather do it in person

[@ahmedrizwan7235]

This is why I don't fuck with PvP nomore. The tryhards, the sweatsz the unemployed dudes who are online 247 got too much time and practice and go hard foe no reason. Haven't played a PvP in about a decade and im enjoying my single player or co-op multiplayer PvE. Never been happier. I play Hunter Call of the Wild for single player and Monster Hunter iceborne for my Co-op PvE . No rush, not a lot of toxicity, you actually find good ppl and absolutely enjoyable

[@VileThaMercenary]

Im still going to buy this game But I didn't even plan on playing online mode

[@jaxcouch7819]

Don’t plz

[@VileThaMercenary]

@jaxcouch7819 Im only playing local

[@Touma134]

Sweats ruining any online game and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

[@SavantPete]

I've been saying that Tenkaichi is not an online ranked game. All the previous Tenkaichi games were not built like this, for modern gaming features. It makes you wonder what the tournaments are going to be like?

[@zomboids2100]

I can smell the stench of unwashed sweat, gamersups/monster, and all around condensing behavior just from thinking about what these tournys would be like- 💀

[@8bitdiedie]

Not supposed to be an online ranked game? And yet they barely added any options for couch co-op and way more options to online ranked mode? Seems to me like the developers are very confused and misguided about the identity of their own game.

[@zomboids2100]

Good to see youtube deleted my comment despite it not breaking any guidelines; Real cool of yall to censor people

[@zomboids2100]

@@SavantPete So youtube; Yall gonna stop? That's two comments of mine gone 💀

[@SavantPete]

@@8bitdiedie Well it has been almost 15 years. Pretty sure the dude in charge was like in his teens when the last Budokai game came out

[@DaBellMonkey]

You know the second biggest issue was when they nerfed Yajirobe. People who spam the most OP characters kept whining over the fact that Yajirobe had a senzu bean to heal him fully

[@aidansharp5244]

To be fair, the ability to completely restore all of your hp, is completely overpowered in a game which has health based win conditions.

[@Alan-m4y]

​@aidansharp5244 It's a senzu bean, it isn't meant to be balanced in a BT game.

[@aidansharp5244]

@@Alan-m4y Don’t get me wrong, I think Yajirobe as a concept is fine, but he doesn’t work in online play, due to the way the game determines a winner (percentage of the health from all characters put together), if it was instead based off the number of characters left alive on each team, then it would be much better.

[@Bugermanchi]

@@aidansharp5244so basically just OP in 90% of fighting games

[@JokerP5]

I Didn’t even get to experience playing online because i get a error message every single match. Then when i wanna play with the homies i can only play 1 stage. Great game design!

[@cch1901]

People waited for this for 17 years. Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

[@libantube-on8kw]

The game is good don't get it twisted. It's just not for this sweaty no homie-having ass generation

[@cch1901]

@libantube-on8kw yeah I guess it's more of a casual play with your friends and family on the couch type of game rather than a sweat fest with toxic strangers online.

[@dg7k]

It's crazy

[@Forgotten_A.I.]

This is why i like being a meta breaker. Any game that has a meta, i play what i find fun, get GOOD, and then have fun while being good. Oooo I love the hate mail i get for "cheating" or "Youre not that good" after rocking someone.

[@kelleygreengrass]

I don't even believe people aren't playing it

[@nocap_luis]

Such a shame, cause this game was supposed to the revival of the budokai tenkachi series. And the game as a whole is literally amazing.

[@sourjuice]

do take note this is only Steam charts, whereas most of the playerbase is on consoles just like the older games

[@Veryunderratedyter]

I’m still gonna play it tho!

[@Gumbo-eg1zj]

Lowkey just dont have time anymore

[@DurtyDan]

Sparking Zero is merely filtering the tourists. Edit: By Tourist's, i am referring to the sweaty competitive peeps.

[@theothesir]

GOOD. It's for US anyway.

[@Blurs8761]

No it’s just keeping sweats like you who probably only use three characters total. People who sweat on this game probably have nothing else in their life that is actually worth while so they cling desperately to wins in a video game to make them feel better about themselves.

[@reignellwalker9755]

@@Blurs8761 What is your problem its only a game and you know nothing about DurtyDan or people who like to play competitively. Why has society reached a point where anyone who does not agree with us or does things differently than us has no life or purpose, God created them too and you can't make assumptions like this.

[@TheOnlyGokuMain]

​@@Blurs8761 It's people like you that cause developers to add sbmm to casual modes...

[@Alan-m4y]

​@@Blurs8761whu-wha-how does he come off a sweat. He's clearly speaking for the common man.

[@Mikael8-r8x]

It's funny how he says "you people only play 5" and not counting himself. Cause in his previous videos on this game he said it himself he is only going to play broly and people just got to get good and deal with it. So he should count himself on his " you people"

[@8bitdiedie]

This! If that ain’t the perfect representation of Sparking Zero fans. They love to talk shit about how they used to beat their little bro at BT3 with a top tier, and then complain about ‘taking it too seriosuly’ when they’re no longer bullying little kids and cpus.

[@Melon_Monk]

To be fair he said he was playing super broly, not z broly

[@T____W____7777]

Can confirm, it’s an offline game for friends.

[@theauditor3224]

one of the few times i can say the players are lowkey at fault

[@ZodiacTatoo]

The game is everything I wanted, the people tho I want to avoid at all cost. It’s tragic

[@GorbWasHere]

As usual, when given the chance gamers will find a way to optimise the fun out of a game

[@Slow_PEVRC]

I stand by that too!! I play split screen with my wife and its way more fun than trying to gain ranks when they just rage quit.

[@windoversea]

Brings a tear to my eye. That couch co-op games are dying. And I was born in 2008 I wish I could have lived in the prime of couch Co-op.

[@YunGGenO77]

Same goes for the Ninja Storm series. I've always had way more fun playing hardest level offline fights and perfecting combos than sweating & cheesing in online matches. Baffles me how it's legal to use Minato in eSports matches 😂

[@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn]

Some don't pick Minato just because of Meta, he did win the official popularity poll run by Kishimoto for a reason.

[@YunGGenO77]

@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn idk one day I saw a pro match, saw Minato on one side and I was like how in the world is this fair 🤣

[@Rando3210]

I dont understand how people havent figured out this is how literally every game launch works, the peak players is always around launch, especially with single player or non competitive games.

[@diegorojas8959]

People really thought this will have they staying power of FighterZ 😂😂😂

[@dememeitized8048]

Found the fan boy

[@diogod2347]

Sparking Zero still has 9-8K on Steam on average, FighterZ dropped to 5K in the second month lol, the game is still more successful so far and it'll definetly get more content updates. Edit: Nvm it's 14K lol

[@diegorojas8959]

@dememeitized8048 dude, i didnt even like the FighterZ that much, but of course that a """Balanced""" fighting game appealing to one most dedicates comunities like the FGC will have a far more staying power than a party game

[@TheOnlyGokuMain]

Did you look at the player numbers for fighterz recently?

[@diegorojas8959]

@TheOnlyGokuMain dude, fighterZ is a 6 year game and still has a community. Will sparking Zero have a community 6 years from now ?

[@jorgecepeda9672]

Man people are just hating just enjoy the offline modes

[@nevadalotto560]

FACTS it's called learning how to play like yeah play offline instead. Even mortal Kombat online is obviously competitve

[@StephonZeno]

Well the online mode is apart of the package you paid for. Don't want it criticized, don't include it in your game.

[@raindancelion1544]

​​@@StephonZenoit's not real criticism just whining because they can't win. Any character can be beaten you just need to know your move set, know the counter timings and know your opponents move set and how they play. It's a fighting game so treat it like one.

[@StephonZeno]

@@raindancelion1544 So if they WERE winning and still complained, *then* would it be criticism? If people paid for their product, they can complain all they want. Yes, any character is viable if you know what you're doing, but it doesn't matter if your having a bad time regardless because their a certain aspects of the game which are *fundamentally* flawed. That goes for any multiplayer game, really.

[@raindancelion1544]

@StephonZeno why are you complaining if you won just sounds like your looking for a reason to complain

[@Yes-qj1kf]

The craziest thing is that’s only on steam and most games often lose a huge player base after a game has come. Even the big named ones like cod fortnite apex fifa mk sf tekken

[@Allycat-VA182]

Nah we just went back to playing Xenoverse and FighterZ for comparison videos an shit.

[@vashaunwynter5533]

"aLl tHe CharRacters ArE unbalanced, so not fair" as it should, it didn't need nerf, when my friend picked Broly and I got Yamcha, when i whooped his ass I TALK THE GREATEST SHIT

[@bakmei365]

Let em whine .... They ain't Tenkaichi tough. They don't appreciate the worth the game has AND they aren't true DBZ fans. I stand on this hill even if it's alone

[@lShadow426l]

Everything must have infinite growth and max population 24 hoours a day or it's bad game, people do nothing but bitch about live service but proceed to compare EVERY GAME TO LIVE SERVICE

[@jeffjefferson2853]

People obsessed with numbers often fail to see the big picture

[@StephonZeno]

No one's saying the game needs to have a 1 billion active players and infinite growth. They just want the online experience to suck less.

[@lShadow426l]

@@StephonZeno Budokai games have literally never once been about balanced fighting, it's a sandbox party fighter with characters stats balanced to what they would to the source material in terms of overall play people playing meta to win is whats making it suck and theres nothing they can do about that except silo them off from everyone else somehow

[@StephonZeno]

@@lShadow426l Yet despite all of that, they added online play anyway where anyone can use the lack of balance and exploits to make the overall online experience a total mess. Seems like this was the worst series to add online play to. Also, people playing meta to win has been in thing in multiplayer games in general for years now. Whether it be Street Fighter 6 or Mario Kart, people like winning, and will do anything to achieve that victory.

[@lShadow426l]

@StephonZeno and your the worst kind of person that will look for anything to bitch where it's a barren wasteland Don't care if playing meta to win has been a thing for years that's not the fucking devs fault but you keep trying to imply it is because clearly your one of the meta players that's pissed off he's stuck at the bottom

[@SwuidOnYT]

Is sparking zero is dead I agree

[@terrellthaddies7867]

Eh

[@VacadoRay]

Not really

[@semajspivey1720]

It’s not dead but it’s boring cause you know what to expect it’s not that game fault it’s the players

[@RabiesRaccoonlol]

Nah, bro, I'm main Turles and I kick people's ass.

[@Whisper11950]

Hell yeah man, I agree, I loved playing the previous titles, and this is the same, just with more.