Is Summer Kama a MUST Summon (Fate/Grand Order)

[@briannguyen6248]

The nice thing for me is I like space Ishtar and I like summer Kama but I don’t like summer Ibuki or Ibuki in general so it was easy for me to make my decision!

[@ZarliWin]

Yeah, I liked the story for ibuki, but not a fan of the art.

[@tsuki1910]

ZTL, so glad that you’re back! Your content has been dearly missed! Summer Kama is a very interesting servant to play with and aesthetically beautiful. I was able to get her to np2 for the power up and looping capabilities. I am confused, though, on whether her heartfelt blaze attack up is utilized in her np or not.

[@zs190]

If you are doing 3T looping with just her NP and not use her face cards, heartfelt blaze is not a factor at all. If you lead a chain with her face cards then use her NP, the target that gets hit by the face cards will take more damage from her NP by 10% multiplied by number of face cards. The defense down on her NP after attack and the heartfelt blaze are both very nice damage boosts in CQ scenarios but not useful for farming.

[@milosomboonwiwat238]

got no shit after 210 sq😭😭😭

[@candyapplehumanm974]

Got two of her in 1 ten pull so I know my favorite arts farmer now

[@konabos747]

same

[@VioletDeathRei]

​@@konabos747Glad I wasn't the only one.

[@dnnisamn6886]

Ive keep pulling individual pulls day by day until Ive reached around 133 pulls actually. I wonder if it makes the pity worse, but knowing the pity totally resets until the banner finalization. So I have 5 days left, hope I get lucky this time

[@Truck-kun11]

I used what little I had left over from Aniversary, and I got nothing. Now I'm going to go into Save Mode and wait until next year to get Castoria, since from what I've seen the 90++ Nods are almost impossible without her and Oberon

[@ucmanhvuong4301]

Well Oberon is optional, but yes Castoria is just a requirement for everyone who wants to do endgame content at this point

[@allanfaneshs16]

@@ucmanhvuong4301Oberon is basically a must as well since he increases your damage by so much and sine he has a 70 battery.

[@tiredfreezer1081]

I did my 90++ nodes with support np5 morgan, np2 koyan and Waver with the Np charge Command code

[@ucmanhvuong4301]

@@allanfaneshs16 not necessarily, he does make it easier, but you can absolute think of other ways to compensate for the charge. The problem of dmg can be solved with BG

[@allanfaneshs16]

@@ucmanhvuong4301 The only other ways to clear 90++ to seems to be using a high np level servant which not everyone will have. Could you prob loop without Oberon? Yes but are you going to be spending way more time worrying about damage and np refund (if you have/need any). With the direction Fgo is going it seems like there will be more and more beefier enemies.

[@Unholy_Brez]

When u have Musashi, Ishtar, and Muramasa but still summon for Kamma cuz….”plot” 😇😇

[@sebas7052]

As a lucky NP5 haver pull for her if you don't have an arts farmer. If you already have an invested spishtar or musashi or whatever probably don't. But most importantly, if you think she's hot just pull for her. Waifu is the rule

[@squalleonkeneddyheart4191]

So happy she came to my Chaldea, will still go for Extra Arts banner in gssr hoping for extra copy or getting new arts Looper, will also go hard for Ibuki next year

[@Harbinger359]

Of course she is! She's Kama, a Sakuraface, wearing only a scarf and flames.

[@jesseharden6073]

I literally got her right at the last hour she was available! I was so excited, I’m somewhat new to fate so she’s my first really good character, (I do f2p) also my first ‘sexy’ waifu lol I get a bunch of guys usually. Personally I love her but I’m easy to please tbh 😝

[@NekoArc007]

She also has the shortest np animation meaning youl be farming faster and in lotto events it meas you can get more rewards in the same amount of time spended

[@tsdzzzz6265]

WTFBDJEJWJW I DID A SINGLE TICKET ROLL CAUSE I WAS BORED AND JUST WANTED A CE BUT I GOT FREAKING KAMA OUT OF IT AND IT WAS MY FIRST SINGLE OF THE WHOLE EVENT

[@WolfBetter]

I love Kammy!❤ Np2 in 300 SQ!❤

[@rondorondoson5750]

Where have you been my boy I was starting to get worried

[@Ayumu31]

kammy is waifu, i failed both her assassin banners with 2.2k f2p sqs but thankfully got her summer version at np2 with 1000ish sqs. Really trying to np3 her atm while bonding farming n doing all interludes n rankups but still no luck so far...wish i get her within her banner time or else ill have to wait till next year...120ing a servant at np2 is tough considering u need bond 12...

[@imrananuar7551]

Yes, now I have summer musashi, spishtar and summer kama❤. Note that I also considered not getting another arts farmer ffs but my gambling/rolling addiction got the better of me. Well, now I can rotate between rin and sakura😊

[@r.s.1722]

Having the option of rotating between Sakura & Rin is worth it! Congrats.

[@maxseijas9066]

Welcome back!! Missed watching your videos on my way to work ❤

[@Sigma993]

Got Summer Kama NP2 on JP and NP1 on global and I think NP1 is perfectly fine tbh. Also I personally still use my Kama a lot despite also having an NP2 Ibuki as well. Feel like there are still situations where I prefer Kama over Ibuki. As for Musashi she most definitely got powercrept hard lol

[@ZarliWin]

Kama is absolutely superior to spishtar in my book cause I have kama and not spishtar. .p

[@crobito2114]

Same

[@Cruz_Wein]

Clyorvayance fucks her up, she gets power creep by Ibuki and melusine tbh easy skip if u can be patient as she wont ever crit, and having 2 2030 means less dmg sometimes as u could run bond ces. then if is only np dmg then u need a lot of sq. not worth it

[@raghavsaran9463]

Ppl started talking her down when S. Ibuki came out, but she's still one of the best arts loopers around. If you don't have an arts looper, it doesn't make a ton of sense waiting a whole year for Ibuki if you want to be practical about it

[@ucmanhvuong4301]

Actually it IS better to wait for Ibuki next year, since 90++ is only out next year. For 90+ nodes you can actually just use some SR to get by pretty decently. Just double core using castoria Oberon (or waver/reines) borrowed Dps and your own and you should be all set honestly. You will have time to save up more sq to potentially get more copies of that abomination, which meta-wise is just the best option

[@raghavsaran9463]

@ucmanhvuong4301 I’m not saying Ibuki isn’t a somewhat better looper, but if you’re saving for a whole year seriously then you’ll likely get atleast NP2 (unless your luck is awful). My luck actually is awful but I was able to get NP5 Summer Kama, and she’s doing pretty great. I saved up ~3200 total, 650 of which went to Oberon for 1 copy. 1400 went to NP5 Kama and I’ve still got like 1150 ish to spare. Hell I could easily go for Ibuki NP5 (obv desire sensor is a cuck) next year even after Kama, I’d have like 3-4k SQ by then. All I’m saying is having Summer Kama, who will be literally the best Arts farmer for a year, will def make your life easier. Besides, apparently you can have Summer Ibuki to further gas up Summer Kama’s final wave NP in some comps so why not both lmao

[@ironrex6979]

Thank you for the review! She seems really good but I already have Space Ishtar NP1 and will be aiming for Ibuki Douji Summer. I was tempted to roll for her but hearing she might not hit hard enough at NP1, she’s similar to Spish, and next year’s summer even makes me want to skip and save up.

[@Amadeus_]

NP3 Summer Kama to join my NP5 assassin Kama. Life is good.

[@okita_souji_alter]

I exhausted the majority of my free quest but I managed to pull her Sunday.

[@dylandownie4989]

Summer Musashi 120 sq 5 tickets np 0 no sr Summer Kama 120 sq 5 tickets np 2 and a canis

[@02349926]

Short answer: YES

[@visualgaming3250]

Got her np5 (took 1140 sq), I've been looping the 90+ node effortlessly, gonna take her to 120

[@sibsart2039]

That’s super good. Sadly I’m only getting 2 for now because I want more servants later.

[@iverss533]

My rolls for her makes me wanna change my pfp

[@godofresident]

She is my first unit to get np2! I'm really happy to get her, since she looks so good

[@hlundertaker]

I was aiming to get 1 copy each servant, and Summer Kama showed up TWICE in my first 2 multi. I ended up Np4 her, so ya she is gona be my top farmer from now on.. Plus, I never liked Ibuki's looks anyway, but I might go for Eris though sadly so can't skip the banner completely.

[@giosantos836]

found my people who don't really like ibuki 🫡🤝🏻

[@hellrider22393]

Got np2 for this beauty

[@zs190]

She's really cute in the event but alas, I already have a lvl 100 NP2 Spishtar with max gold fous and I don't want to invest that much to get a lateral upgrade, have to pick and choose for F2P/GSSR player unfortunately. I wasn't planning to roll this summer at all but I think I'm going to roll for a copy of Douman when his banner comes up on Thursday. Might be worth a video tomorrow/Thursday to remind people of Douman's value as an instant death wave 1/2 clear in 90++ meta besides his chaotic and evil support value.

[@eruantien9932]

Similarly, I have NP2 Spishtar, so I'm not fussed about Kama. But I did do a couple of pulls because Nagiko, because it's Nagiko and her energy is a mood. Naturally, number 3 of the 1st pull was Kama... Couldn't have happened for Okitan, though, could it...

[@theninjaspy-x0140]

I had over 300+ and 2.2k quartz for kama I was able to get her np5 and have 900 quartz left

[@krasuratos]

Im saving for summer ibuki and arcuid

[@SmartyPantsDash]

Went full in for Summer Kama. NP1 took pity, NP2 took 600SQ and NP3 took my last 500SQ without giving Kama. Bought Clock Tower event(gives 10 tickets) with the RP I got from NP15 Caenis and NP12 Sei and I rolled her NP3 in the 1st ticket. I really wanted her instead of Spishtar

[@lucia_mond]

Any idea when lady avalon/proto merlin releases to global?

[@comicsans8994]

Neat year Summer

[@TheSp3trum]

NP2 with 600SQ (which is around the average) but with a bonus Karna in the pack. Very easy to loop for the event but I'm wondering if it will be the same for the other one. Even if i didn't needed her so much (already have 2 good art loopers), waifu>>>>>>meta

[@jamesonedwardsii4943]

I always find it absurd people have to go so deep. I’ve only had to go like 300 sq for Castoria. Everyone else is literally NP2 within 5 pulls

[@sebas7052]

​@@jamesonedwardsii4943sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. I managed to get np5 s.kama with 570sq but on jp my summer luck was horrendous lol. My NA is blessed tho (most of the time).

[@TheSp3trum]

That's the cruel reality with Gacha god. With 1% per pull (on rate up), it is inevitable that few hundred of players will have insane gacha and that's give us the illusion that everyone is lucky except us. We just need to be patient with Gacha god. I remember my first time paying a SQ pack for Merlin and I had him on the second ticket >_>. But for Castoria, I had her in around 700SQ. Way more than average but not pity

[@jamesonedwardsii4943]

@@TheSp3trum I’m sorry if I’m insensitive but I’ve just rarely experienced bad luck. I assumed that people that spent 500+ SQ were going for stuff like NP3-NP5 My pulls just this year Muramasa 5 tickets Taira 2 pulls Koyanskaya NP2 2 pulls Morgan 1 ticket but 8 more pulls for NP3 Oberon 2 tickets Melusine 4 pulls NP2 Summer Okita alter NP2 5 pulls Kama NP2 4 pulls Since I’ve started playing the game 2 years ago the absolute only NP1 that took a lot was Castoria. I legitimately got my boy Gil to NP4 in like 6 pulls way back then.

[@octapusxft]

Space Ishtar worked fine for years with NP1 plus grailing and gold fous. Kama should work the same amd st the wordt case, one can get Oberon involved for the last wave If all else fails, the NP2 Arjuna Alter will be brought to smite the node

[@xOblivionAbyssx]

I got her, but I wanted to get the SRs too…I turned up with NP 3 Kama summer after I got my first copy of Summer Caenis.

[@r.s.1722]

I got Kama NP1. I hope I can get a 2nd copy before she goes.

[@viniciusfranco3770]

I got her Np1 with 169 quartz. I tried to get np2 with 60 SQ, but failed :( Now its time to save for Castoria and Kama summer ( i really want np2) for next year

[@Crawkdawgmusashi]

Wanted to get a copy of every servant. In that process got Kama to np3

[@leepaoyang710]

I don't have Space Ishtar so I decided to roll for her. I'm always a Kama main so i decided to whale for her to NP 5 and my assassin Kama is also NP 5 as well. This 2 are my only NP 5 servants.

[@MrBlacklightning93]

I wanted to roll for Kama considering she's one of my favorite servants.... but then I ended up getting NP3 Musashi and grained her. No regrets

[@jeremycullen]

Just wanted her np1 for collecting purposes. my Spishtar is np 2 level 100 my musashi summer is np4 100 2000/2000 . I'm good till Ibuki.

[@justalex4214]

Long story short: Summer Kama and Spishtar are interchangeable, use whoever's your favourite. I have spishtar at np5 and built up to lvl120 already so rolling for kama is a waste of qp for me.

[@Xernitory]

np6 summer kama :) I got her to 120 before 2 am the day she dropped

[@kalanara8633]

NP4 for around 700 SQ, 1 NP remaining, oh well I take what I can get and its worth it

[@kalanara8633]

Update now she is NP5, thanks to free quest's, interludes and rank up quest's that I saved up

[@Tsuna_SoulSilver]

I don't care much for Ibuki so it's an easy choice for me.

[@Setarpol]

I slipped miss Crane NP on T1 which later swaps into tamamo. this addition more or less fix her underwhelming damage on T1 & T2

[@zs190]

gosh, that's an expensive team in term of cost, I guess you are skipping a lot of CEs in this setup?

[@Setarpol]

either black grair or ocean flier on kama and star bomb CE for miss crane. the rest can be bond CE if the cost allows. but yeah ig the comps sacrifices CE slots@@zs190

[@dragoneyerx7170]

I hit pity to get her, she was even worse than koyanskaya 😭😭😭😭

[@nelisezpasce]

Her NP animation can surprise you sometimes? If so, that's great incentive!

[@hello93jm]

waifu over meta

[@frostychihuahua5331]

I did a full analysis and scientific study on this subject, conclusion shows you are correct.

[@theironfro6395]

Np 5 Kama. Np 5 Caenis, NP3 Nagiko. I feel very good, but now im conflicted. Do I 120 grail my lvl100 NP3 Summer Musashi (because I wish she was real), 120 grail my new Kama (because she's my 2nd favorite) or be smart and wait until Bazett comes out to get as many copies as possible and then grail her, because she is honestly the best Stay Night/Hollow Ataraxia waifu?

[@ucmanhvuong4301]

actually for the current state of the game on NA, she actually is the worst option within the current 3 loopers. You have Summer Musashi who dominates any 3/3/x nodes, which means anything below 90, and Space Ishtar with her consistent high dmg across waves will help you deal with 90+ nodes, and when she herself isn't enough (either has refund or dmg problems) you can bring in a double core team and Space Ishtar will be able to buff up the secondary DPS. Kama can do none of this sadly, or at least not as well as these two. She's a nice sidegrade but that's abt it (An improved Summer Kiara, RIP those who once thought horny nun even measured up to the top tier loopers) And given how the new no.1 and no.2 arts queens will be dropped in the next two years, you honestly cant say that Kama is worth it at all. 90+ is still relatively easy so you can actually get by even with non-top tier servants by using double core setups. It's only next year that we get 90++, which coincides with S.Ibuki's release.

[@cameraredeye3115]

Summer Musashi has no inherent battery, while Summer Kama has a 50% one in her S3. Plus the anti-Charm and anti-Flames of Love damage mods are a big help since her damage affinity is neutral against nearly anyone that isn't a Berserker. AFAIK there are few, if any, farming nodes in the entire game that have Moon Cancers so those are not a problem. I've tested both Musashi and Kama, and the latter is DEFINITELY better for NP refunds. Especially since she has that S3 battery. Also Kama is literally THE ultimate waifu, since she can satisfy anyone's tastes. The meta can kiss ass.

[@derpderp2317]

@@cameraredeye3115I’ve never struggled with refund using Summer Musashi, granted she’s at NP2 and grailed to 100, but I doubt that makes a huge difference. I alternate between her and Spishtar, but honestly I use Spishtar more as a buster farmer now. I was able to snag Kama too, but doubt she’ll be replacing Musashi as my go to Arts farmer.

[@VioletDeathRei]

​@@derpderp2317As a new player that doesn't have 8 castoria's and 12 merlins(and won't for over a year it seems) just a free Tamamo no Mae I find Kama much much much more reliable then summer Musashi and I love summer Musashi. The NP battery is huge, her ramping single target damage is amazing she can keep up with single target NPs with her building debuff and her burst damage is crazy good all behind not being weak to 99% of enemies instead of being intentionally weak to 99% of enemies. I'm sure if you can pump someone from 0 to 100 np in one go and clear every nod with zero pushback it doesn't matter to you but I notice a lot.

[@khaladar35]

I got super lucky with 300pulls i got np 5

[@DrHughMonguscoque]

Yes. Is she significantly better than Spishtar or Zerksashi? No. Is she still a must summon? Yes.

[@ucmanhvuong4301]

actually for the current state of the game on NA, she actually is the worst option within the current 3 loopers. You have Summer Musashi who dominates any 3/3/x nodes, which means anything below 90, and Space Ishtar with her consistent high dmg across waves will help you deal with 90+ nodes, and when she herself isn't enough (either has refund or dmg problems) you can bring in a double core team and Space Ishtar will be able to buff up the secondary DPS. Kama can do none of this sadly, or at least not as well as these two. She's a nice sidegrade but that's abt it. And given how the new no.1 and no.2 arts queens will be dropped in the next two years, you honestly cant say that Kama is worth it at all. 90+ is still relatively easy so you can actually get by even with non-top tier servants by using double core setups. It's only next year that we get 90++, which coincides with S.Ibuki's release.

[@orenjiju]

NP5 Summer Mara because I had to

[@guyguy7923]

Got her now to save for the hell that is the last month of the year

[@trinitrotoluene4745]

Np2 kama,np1 sei,np1 caenis for 120 Sq

[@stickman1332]

I went and got Kama, then I was free to pull for Okita Alter banner (I want summer Anastasia), but I didn't end up getting Anastasia, instead I got Okita...

[@brandondejesus8618]

NP 2 Summer Kama in one 10 pull. Now its time to save for Melusine rerun

[@cameraredeye3115]

Threw about 720 SQ into her banner. Got her to NP3.

[@angelofdeath251]

as castoria not haver, and a spacetar np 2 with koyan skaya on my account. I know who i have to use

[@alvex434]

I got spooked twice trying to summon for her(Arjuna and Jeanne). This game hates me.

[@renzreyes292]

Same but got Bradamante. She's evading me from the start

[@Marcosantoniothebluecreator]

np2 space ishtar and np1 kiara summer sorry kama, but i guess the other beast has chosen me

[@jaybreezy610]

I failed to get her 😢 300SQ gone

[@NoNameOficial01]

900 summons to get np1 Kama ;-;. I really wanted np1, but for the first time in this game, I did go to pity

[@Malentar]

Trying to get to NP2 on this banner broke me, I have so many CEs and Caenis

[@sibsart2039]

Ibuki is definitely a better farmer, but she isn’t the better challenge unit. In and mission where high damage won’t end the fight in 3 turns, Spishtar and Kama have utility and survival. You arguably don’t need it for Ibuki but still.

[@ucmanhvuong4301]

It pains me to say it but for the whole year after her release, there really hasn’t been any CQs where bringing Ibuki would be worse than the other options. We all say things like she has no survivability but with Castoria around she doesn’t need to worry abt such concern. If there’s buff removal everyone is dead all the same, not just Ibuki

[@sibsart2039]

@@ucmanhvuong4301 Hence why I said “arguably”. She can just brute force things and Castoria, Lady Avalon, and even Tamamo provide the survivability she needs and can get it consistently. This is why Quick needs a tank support that works despite being quick.

[@JeidelacruzUK]

What do i need to loop with her? I got all casters except for CASTORIA, t vich and oberon but i strugle to t3 farm with her -

[@konabos747]

u specifically need castoria

[@allanfaneshs16]

You can farm with tamamo and support castoria if you have a np start charge on skama. You should be able to do black grail if you have Oberon.

[@alphazteam2474]

You can use support Castoria and your own Waver and Paracelsus to loop her.

[@kylelor3612]

Too bad and late, I lost everything her, 2k sq frags and all of my saved up sq from box

[@ahmadhakimi7878]

no way you can't even get her with 2k sqs, literally you hit pity at 900 sq

[@xhydrox]

@@ahmadhakimi7878 he said 2k fragments, which is roughly 285sq

[@ahmadhakimi7878]

@@xhydrox oh that frags, rip

[@Jamman4life]

Excuse me good sir how did you get that NP damage chart?

[@qukong9417]

I got pretty lucky, np2 with 180 sq 😁

[@julius1780]

So is np2 Summer kama good enough for most 90+ nodes? or should I go for np3?

[@AXXXOLO]

if plug suit + obe then yes

[@foxburton4275]

I hit pity to get her np1 :( all my quartz, gone, so I couldn't get Anastasia

[@dvdzvc]

i go for looks. redrop art is insane. ibuki art looks so weird. why would i get ibuki when i got np5 summer kama?

[@Wendygiraffe]

Cause ibuki is hotter

[@jamespov2446]

yep why get ibuki when i have NP2 Summer Kama

[@theironfro6395]

I love Redrop art the most in FGO. Then I'd say Hirokazu's. After that, it's honestly a tied between Wada Arco and Raita

[@tahF005]

shes not coming home. okitan however came in 1 multi

[@feelsgoodman9737]

I tried to get her and failed so I will get summer Ibuki next year.

[@Kun-ow7jp]

300 sq + 10 ticket = np 5 caenis np 1 sei np 0 kama

[@rafresendenrafresenden.1644]

Save for Douman

[@sh0bayaki103]

Yes.

[@rudys.artous5477]

Couldnt get her My sq is empty

[@vt_leviathan]

i got summer kama to np 3 😁

[@cameraredeye3115]

Same. My third copy came in single pulls 😎

[@canaldecasta]

Got two copies within 120 pulls. Although no Sei, which was my realistic target, I can't complain. Finally, Kama 🦍

[@Sonu8KD]

YES

[@andreasnicolasbritoserafim2949]

i get her with my only 30 SQ from my 400 days login after i had fight her for the last treasure stuff on the event

[@joshlariviere152]

goal was np1 kama, caenis and sei but ended up with np3 caenis, np3 kama and no sei.

[@AkumenoKazama]

got her only with 30 SQ

[@tuck295q]

Well, I got 3NP for her already so meh. lol