Is the 2023 Civic Type R the PERFECT performance car? 5 Things I HATE & LOVE

The FL5 Type R has received a ton of attention and Honda says it is the best Civic Type R Yet. Let me share with you the top 5 things I HATE & the top 5 things that I LOVE about my new Civic Type R.
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[@BigBear--]

For the millionth time...That "Fake Vent" in the front bumber he keeps saying is non-functional, IS NOT A VENT. It's an Aero Kick-Out for air to flow smoothly past the front wheel/tire and not get sucked into the wheel well. It's meant to kick the air out around the front wheels, so that the air that's directed in for brake cooling, can have uninterrupted flow into the wheel well, and flow out the side vent relieving high pressure in the wheel well. It's a purpose driven functional piece of aero design, not "just a fake vent". The Honda engineers specifically talked about their being no fake aero pieces on this car vs the FK8, they wanted everything that is there to be functional, and nothing extra just for looks.

[@Hondaddy]

Facts

[@timbrown9731]

Agreed and that’s what I was thinking as well they don’t do it on purpose

[@whosdondada]

Thank you for the info

[@deenoc3622]

Savagegeese had a segment in their review with the chief designer of the FL5 type-R, who said there are no fake vents on the FL5. Everything has a purpose.

[@BigBear--]

@@whosdondada No doubt. If you're interested Savagegeese has a great introductory review of the FL5 Type-R. In the video they have some interviews with the engineers, as well as Honda's technical slides about the car. One of the slides demonstrates what I'm talking about...but they're all interesting.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

I love how you own a Ford Focus RS, Subaru WRX STi, FK8 Honda Civic Type R, and a FL5 Honda CTR in your garage! You are a hero and automotive company’s around the world are grateful for your hard work and support!

[@Blackwing668]

Joe thank you for bringing this to us! Steven you’re the best!😊 keep doing these reviews on your fl5 civic type r, and please do a video doing a Costco run!! I’m torn between the integra type S and this type R

[@moflow99]

Love this, and would really like to see more vids on the cars you own. You've got some sweet rides Raiti 😁👍

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks will do!

[@wbwayne8887]

He's got really good taste in automobiles and the means to indulge thanks to hard work and dedication. Joe and Lori.

[@brentengstrom5406]

There are definitely things I don't like about my car too. But like you always say, "No car is perfect." Love it!

[@brentengstrom5406]

Save the turtles!

[@firesyde424]

There is a module behind the glovebox that's responsible for the piped in noise. If you drop the glovebox, you can see it. Comes out with a simple screw driver and doesn't hurt the car in any way.

[@bjammin187]

Congrats on your new Type R, Mr Raiti! You truly are a connoisseur of the finest of vehicles.

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for taking the time to say that!

[@jdmanreviews9383]

do you still own this and will own this for the next 15 years? thank you

[@fordTH7335]

Hey Joe, love the video. Just curious, what cars are in your fleet currently? Thanks for your hard work on this channel!

[@tony62]

I really like the vids where you just talk about your personal experiences and opinions on cars

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@chachingx4120]

More type r vids 🎉, Waiting for full exhaust and intake!!!!!! This channel slaps!!!!!

[@xp50player]

I paid extra to get the gloss door trim for my Sport Touring, because it looks better with tinted windows. You can, of course, get all matte black parts, but then some people report sun bleaching deterioration of those.

[@davidp2888]

Great looking car, Joe! I agree, the exhaust sound needs some help. Wishing you many miles of safe and fun driving ON THROTTLE.

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks David for being so kind.

[@EpicNinjaRides]

@@RaitisRides I bet you can swap the Integra Type S exhaust over and get some better sound.

[@mertcakir233]

Price should be 36-38k. 45k for civic is just too much.

[@latino914]

Well it can outperform cars that $80k and above. So you're still getting a good deal.

[@sbs-0055]

Find me one for 45k and I’ll buy it today

[@bigweedonly]

Dont forget the 20k dealer markup! There should be some sort of mandatory MSRP pricing combined with a no resale clause. Sell the cars to people who will drive them and punish dealers selling above MSRP, sad state the enthusiast car market is in.

[@killthemall55]

@@bigweedonly which makes it $65k. maan that was fully loaded hellcat out the door price 2 years ago 🥲

[@RaitisRides]

Pricing for everything has gone up!

[@gabes-t]

I like how the car's animation in the screen also turns as you steer the car. Nice little detail by Honda!

[@richardburns9772]

Yo Raiti, great review. Comment about your issue with ride stiffness (that’s what she said). You could consider downsizing your rims 1in and increasing tire height for a lil sidewall flex and enhances ride compliance.

[@michaelmoore4937]

You hit the nail on the head with your choices of negatives. In my opinion this is the best overall generation but they made some odd choices to make the exhaust and the side vents severely toned down or just for show.

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks man for sharing your thoughts on this one.

[@BigBear--]

I've told him same thing I'ma tell you. Those front bumper "fake vents" that he likes to "zonk" aren't fake vents. They're called air-kick-outs. They're a functional and intentional part of the overall aerodynamic design for the front and side. They're there to kick out air in a smooth laminal flow out and around the front wheel well/wheel/tire, and send it down the side of the car. It's there so that the air that's directed through the brake cooling dams in the bumper have a smooth flow to the brakes and out the side vent (also relieving high preasure build up in the front wheel wells). All of that is meant to work together to keep the brakes cool, keep the pressure in the wheel well low, and maintain smooth laminal flow down the side of the vehicle. There are engineering slides out there of their wind tunnel testing, showing the various air flow for the different parts of the aero setup for the Type-R, along with brief explanations. I think Savagegeese shows some of them in his introductory review of the Type-R. One of the things the Honda engineers wanted with this generation of Type-R was to have all functional aero design, and drop any fake aero pieces like they had on the previous FK8.

[@alikabok-es4sx]

Joe, Love this review. To the point and really very helpful. Thanks!!

[@RaitisRides]

That’s means the world

[@gahangore111]

I think there's a reason why almost every car KZbinr has bought one of these. Fantastic all around vehicle.

[@turbo_tin]

Totally an awesome car!

[@RaitisRides]

You are spot on the money about that!

[@RaitisRides]

So very true!

[@mattpipke5716]

I don't think it is the car 100% that is the reason so many content creators bought one as it is they had the money to burn from their channels, they figured they will make money on it so go ahead and never stopped to think, what about my subscribers, the regular hard working people who always wanted a car like this, finally they have a chance so why ruin that? Greed, that's why, ugly sad, greed. I think they did it more for the views, subs and $$ that comes with that. which killed the market for regular folks like you and I. Unless of course you are willing to dump 5 to 40k$ over sticker which I am not. Putting the car out of reach for regular people buy giving in to dealer demands hurts us all and it really irritates me the greed these people demonstrate rather than the feeling of community. A community acts together for the best interest of the group, the greater good. But you can see none of these youtubers did. Not even our so-called buddy Raiti. He put his desire and easy money from KZbin to work for him so he could get what he wanted without thinking about his subscribers who as a result may never get to own an FL5. Weaker, less patient players will say, hey capitalism, and hey make more money etc.. but there is no need to pay over sticker for this car, ever. If he and all others just said no I don't think a Civic is worth $50k Ill wait. We would all be able to afford the Type R. Production would ramp up and more cars would flow to America. They just want more, more subs, likes, and dollars from advertisers. Meanwhile if they had the guts to stand tall on it, even if it meant not being the first to own the Type r, and just said NO to dealers, they could have regulated the market for everyone. Now it is a mess.

[@StrongerThanEver84]

@@mattpipke5716 jesus christ you wrote a fuckin novel crying like a b***h lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@TheKopfjager]

Amazing videos Joe! keep them coming!

[@RaitisRides]

You got it Mike!

[@ericiidx]

I'm really happy for you, being able to get this Championship White beauty! This was my dream car 20 years ago, and it still is, now more than ever with this new generation. I hope I get the opportunity to make a really stupid financial decision within the next few years before this thing disappears for good.

[@turbo_tin]

Agreed on all your points Joe. Looking forward to upgrading this car!

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks Tin! Stay tuned!

[@gregorioribeirojr]

Amazing video!!! I'm looking forward to this car to arrive in my country!

[@RaitisRides]

Awesome my friend!

[@Tyrael1701]

Love the continuing review of Type R!

[@bobbyjones2112]

And yes, do some more in the depth videos of your other cars! That would be kind of fun, I don’t think you’ve done it on them.

[@stevenpipitone4401]

Great video once again! I think your mic might be going bad though , the last vid you made had interference as well , thanks .

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for the feedback

[@Scythersmile1]

The insert on the front is a functional air dam designed to settle the current around the tires lol. It is functional just not a vent.

[@BigBear--]

The stiff ride in R mode is stiff on purpose. It's there so that if you plan on seriously tracking the car, not just for fun. It's there so that when you use proper full race, R-Comp, tires the car doesn't get unsettled on track. If the tires are super sticky, and the suspension is too soft, it will upset the car on track. R Mode isn't really for street driving, even though I personally don't have a problem with it when you want to do some spirited back road driving.

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for your intel.

[@BigBear--]

@@RaitisRides I'm curious how many miles you have on your FL5 so far. Mine seemed to soften up a bit after about 1,500-2,000 mile break in on the suspension. Not crazy mind you, just sorta smoothed out those sharp edges a bit. Comfort is more supple, Sport is a proper middle ground, and while R is stiff, it's a bit less bouncy and more settled than day 1.

[@AcuraChannel]

Can't wait to see when the Civic Type R vs Integra Type S! I'm quite sure the Integra will be faster all the way around. Gloss black exterior finish gives it more of a luxury look...I like it..

[@DragonKnightX12]

You should bring it when you get to doa full review of the Teggy Type-S. A good back to back comparison between the too would be awesome.

[@jimsdetailinggarage]

Great review. Watched every second of it. I actually like this version of the Type R over the previous one. It looks a bit more tame. Laughed aloud about the turtle in the road.

[@bashiralqadhi3970]

Love your vids keep up the good work ❤

[@RaitisRides]

You got it my friend!

[@paulstabin6233]

Some of your best work here. Wishing you many years of fun with this jewel of a car. I appreciate the cooling improvements, Log R, interior dash tweaks, improved shifter, extra power, and custom modes of this gen. But keeping my AB '18 FK8 since I much prefer the styling, slightly lower weight and shorter length/ turning circle, no pumped in noise, not to mention cost. Oops I mentioned it. Both gens are great- with no real competition- other so-called 'competitors' fail in one or more areas. At any price. It says a lot when top auto journalists plunk their own money down on a model. And please do more videos like this of your own collection.

[@RaitisRides]

That means the world! Thank you & will do!

[@Freddy_Confetti]

All that feedback in the mic is his finest work lol

[@587G]

Nice review Joe. How would you say the GTI Type R compares to the Civic Type R?

[@bobbyjones2112]

You should have the trim on the outside all painted matte black it would look so cool! It can’t cost that much to have it all painted. You would think…lol

[@RaitisRides]

Good idea.

[@TheKingkingg]

Congratulations on your amazing awesome car which is a dream car for many. My wife and I love our Elite a spec Canada 🇨🇦 version MT black Integra 🇨🇦 ⚫️ 🖤 ♥️ and its super fun, so we can imagine type R and type S. Your exterior gloss black could be wrapped with satin black

[@dominickirkwood]

I love it Joe and Lori and keep up the great work real true and I love the video 👍 💯

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks brother man!

[@Dsmpunk59]

Can’t forget Steve either

[@AAly-hf5mg]

Always great job

[@mickc7939]

The gloss black is nice compared to fake carbon, The exhaust sound is a let down maybe a sports cat might help it a bit before swapping it out. It’s an awesome car and built in Japan this time ❤

[@ksorsomeplace]

I would suggest that Honda use a full length center console. This would give the interior 4 bucket seats and some additional style. For me personally, I'd remove the rear wing altogether and paint the wheels silver and add all season tires. I want some nice driving, but don't need/want all-out track capability.

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for you thoughts on this one.

[@r3games1985]

My new Camry TRD also has the red seatbelts for the extra 5 hp. 😅

[@RaitisRides]

You know it!

[@davonne225]

I kinda agree with the zonks on the exterior with the gloss black on the grille. It should be matte black and the door handles and roof should also be black. Not sure why so many companies do the fake vents on performance cars.

[@galileichateau8527]

Nice ride, Joe!

[@michaellorenz6699]

There's away to disable the fake sound through the glove box. Just disconnect the connector! There's tutorials on yt on how to do it. Super easy.

[@mickeybrumfield764]

You look good in the car, it fits you like sunshine and rainbows.

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for saying that!

[@JG-mg3if]

Congrats 🍾. Man I wish the GR interior was closer to the type R.

[@MC-qf6ms]

When’s the comparison of this against the Subie Type RA that you also own? Curious how this stacks against it and also the Subie S209 since you have had seat time in that also.

[@supay6537]

Wow was your car even ON at 5:50 😂 Honda F up with that exhaust. Nice video as always! 👍🏼

[@rickeybradley2635]

Glad to see the FL5 again.

[@andreaparadiso3805]

I think the car’s suspension is pretty stiff in all three settings. But, it is quite the machine! Honda really did an amazing job!

[@richardburns9772]

Ask your mom about stiff suspensions

[@jimmyvo6918]

I agree with everything you say. Please more videos like this.

[@333KINGPIN33]

Raiti, which do you think will hold value better? Type R or the integra type s?

[@IamJay02]

I definitely think you should put an aftermarket exhaust on this car.

[@RaitisRides]

Agreed

[@vrdntfitness]

between your type ra, gt350, 1le, and this how do you decide what to drive everyday?

[@SuperKanuuna]

You can always change race exhaust pipe to your honda, so you get that sound what you've been looking for. Change intake filter too

[@RaitisRides]

So very true!

[@KayD14]

Not sure if the FL5 allows it, but the FK8 you can unplug the pumped in engine noise. Think it’s a plug underneath the passenger side dash

[@RaitisRides]

I believe this is the same

[@DragonKnightX12]

Probably not a good idea till you get a proper exhaust.

[@HoppersLab]

I have a 23 civic EX-L and i don't like the integrated wiper/sprayers, hate the auto shutoff at stop( i know i can shut it off every time i drive, but i shouldn't have to pay extra to make it disabled), hate that i can't disable the seatbelt alarm and the no cruise control unless the camera system is clear. and the A pillar could be moved back about 2".

[@jrjay9292]

Nice review 😮 my dream car.

[@justinscheurer3211]

Good looking car just looking at this car since subaru stopped making the wrx sti. best reviews on the Web

[@by-rc3nl]

Great looking car! Gloss black looks great.

[@xxraverxxonxtacy]

Thanks for the honesty Joe, but was this an Exit Interview/Trade in for a new Acura Integra Type S coming to the Raiti's Garage 🤔😏😎

[@RaitisRides]

LOL We will see Hunter!

[@Suzeraincecil]

Nice new series!

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks man

[@soaresproductions355]

Great video! Might need to make some adjustments to the mic

[@cvrdo5827]

I’m mind blown that stealeships are allowed to mark these up 20-30k. You’re putting this car in a different bracket of cars that it doesn’t belong to. I’m in CA and they aren’t scarce. They are in every dealership but they are having a hard time selling because of the ridiculous mark ups.

[@tolgarupture]

What about a spare tire for those epic journeys? Can it not be fitted aftermarket?

[@akim24]

You should try disabling the valve and keep it open. It makes a noticeably deeper growl through the lower rpms. I personally hate the back seats. The quality is no where near as nice as the awesome bucket seats up front. Also, it sucks they decided to make it a four seater instead of five. I do love the car though!

[@malikward5211]

That shift knob looks butter. Wonder if it’ll be hot during the summer lol

[@carportmods]

Joe, do you remember if you had the seat all the way back? I'm asking because I'm 6'6", I fit well in the Sport, but I know those seats are thicker.

[@shabberplasm32]

Hey Joe, I think it'd be cool if you did this format video version on your Bronco!

[@tomzeto]

they deleted the real sound and gave you a fake one that you can't turn off lol. Love this Type R though just not the mark ups at dealerships. Thanks for the review!

[@NissanQuestGuy96yt]

HI JOE THATS SO AWESOME! ILL NEVER STOP COMMENTING!!! I LOVE YOU SO MUCH!!

[@RaitisRides]

You are the best! Thank you!

[@NissanQuestGuy96yt]

​@@RaitisRides I know! I LOVE YOU!

[@Rooster1717]

How does it compare to a 2020/2021 STI as you have done quite a few videos on them (I own one now)?

[@tomhockman6267]

Absolutely we love the continuing saga videos of your FL5 ownership experience. Since we can't all own a Type R, it's nice to live vicariously through you. Great job Stephen and Joe!

[@RaitisRides]

Thank you Tom for being so supportive!

[@Nick-qi8de]

Great review, nice car.

[@splice247]

Get the sukeban design rock guards, just the right amount of protection from road debris coming off the tires. I dont get rocks on my sidesills

[@mrkilroy9167]

A cat back Borla exhaust might be louder and sound better? Muffler delete? I love the video keep making them!

[@93Tillinfini]

I called every dealership in Alberta, Canada between today and yesterday, no dealerships have any available and all dealerships had 10-20 people on the waiting lists. I am crushed I can't find one. Most dealerships have 10-20 people on next years waiting list and some dealerships said they are waiting until 2032 for everyone on the list to get one, if hypothetically everyone on the list were to fulfill their spot on the waitlist. mind-blowing. One dealership told me that they are still affected by the silicon shortage for computer chips. I NEED A WHITE ONE BUT CAN'T EVEN SETTLE FOR ANY COLOUR.

[@susanjspaulding]

🇺🇸 *Really love ALL of the NEW Type R videos* !! *Have owned several straight drive Honda cars* !! *Glad to hear the transmission and shifter work so seamlessly* !! *Can't wait to see the video from track day* !! *Fantastic content Joe and Steven* !! #RaitisRides 🇺🇸

[@coachmaupin201]

Happy Saturday

[@carlo6912]

My 96 accord was $20k brand new. I can't see myself paying over 40k for a civic. It's beautiful, enjoy it. Can life get any better than driving around in your type R in beautiful FL.

[@zavioncharles8972]

With inflation that’s $38k, very unfair to compare a completely different time to now

[@BigBear--]

I'd be curious what the stock exhuast would sound like if you do resonator deletes...there's 2 resonators I think, so would be interesting to see one deleted, then both deleted and see what it sounds like in both cases. Or....maybe leave the resonators, and delete the muffler....or a combination 1 resonator and the muffler.

[@RaitisRides]

That’s what we are going to do.

[@BigBear--]

@@RaitisRides Looking forward to it. Also, be on lookout for your drivers seat frame starting to squeak, especially if you rock your body side to side (mine started developing at around 1,300-1,800 miles). This is a known issue, and I already had my seat frame replaced once under warranty, even though my rep let me know quietly it looks like a recall and redesign may be on the way (she didn't want me to have to wait with a squeaky seat). If recall happens I'll get it switched out again for new design, though so far the squeak hasn't returned and it feels more solid. Driver size and weight doesn't seem to be the issue, as people from 130lbs up to 345lbs all experience same problem with the seat. This is all part of the early adopter problem. There are almost no aftermarket parts out for the new car, and you become the beta tester shaking down the new car design and any aftermarket parts.

[@HondaProJason]

I’m in the know! LOL Great vid

[@diamondknight4815]

I'd have to get an aftermarket exhaust. I like my cars to have sound.

[@mrspencer72]

Is plus r mode stifffer than your Focus RS? Because that was a complaint of the RS in any mode...

[@artstar5994]

Looks Great! Personally, Id want an automatic Type R cause Im lazy!

[@chrisvigo4880]

What if you took a dremel drill to those vents and opened them? Would it ruin the functionality of the xar??

[@linacarlot5676]

I'd like to replace the high- performance soft tires on my 2023 Type R when due for new to all- season radials. What are your thoughts?

[@MakingItHappenMWC]

Almost at a milly dude!!!!!!!

[@eutanasio31]

I just trade in my 2021 fk8 for this same car and i love it and the car being assemble in japan makes a huge difference

[@mattpipke5716]

Love your car, So, I'm curious. Now that the Type S is on its way, do you have any regrets about paying over MSRP for the Civic and are you thinking of either buying a Type s also or turning in the Civic towards a type s or are you 100% happy with your decision and have no intentions of getting the Integra Type S? I wonder about many who either have been waiting for a Type R or are on a list or otherwise, how many of them will bail on the Civic and try to get a Type S. after June's allocations of 200 cars comes and goes, only then will we have a better idea on production and wait times for more cars, hopefully September thru Jan we will see cars flowing from Maryville Ohio for buyers that do want the integra. It seems like if someone who paid over sticker wanted to sell their type R right now it is 50/50 as to whether they could recoup their money or not. I mean who is going to pay 5k over MSRP when the Type S which is being made in America and should not suffer shortages like the Type r did is only weeks away from pricing reports and first allocations? I love the Type R but from day 1 I wasn't impressed with some of the interior options. I get it they wanted to literally save every pound they could for setting track records, understood, but I do keep my cars for decades, and the thought of having a bare bones interior compared to many of the competitors didn't sit well with me, I don't love the Type R seats, or the lack of creature comforts. I mean it is only a 300 hp car, my 07" Nissan is quicker, so saving weight at the expense of tech and of luxury to me, in this car seems kind of over kill, just my opinion of course. I lover the integra. Started out wanting to buy the Sport Civic, with the 2 liter 160 hp motor, why? Because it is bullet proof, gets great gas mileage and looks great. The Type R caught my eye only because of the 2.0 liter, I don't trust the 1.5. Then the integra came out and although I love the interior, (except the dash vent cover being broken up) I didn't want that 1.5 so I figured I will go either for the Type r or the sport to avoid the 1.5. But now that the Type S is on its way and promises to not have severe shortages like the Civic did due to it being built in Ohio, I feel like getting one is pretty realistic to me, I think anyway, let's hope. I really want the Type S very bad. I hope it works out that way.

[@porfiriato84]

WTH is wrong with you

[@Kayrocz89]

Thanks for the review! I recently bought a 2019 FK8 and I love it but when the FL5 came out it took my interest. I think based on your reviews I’m going to make the swap.

[@RaitisRides]

That is so wonderful! Thank you for letting me share it with you!

[@philipc3153]

Rati- I have a gt350r too. Do you think it’s good to get the type r?

[@timbrown9731]

Probably one of the best front wheel drive cars ever!

[@michaelfragoso4449]

Are you able to turn off the fake car sound mode coming through the speakers?

[@ralphblog3874]

Hey do you know if there’s gonna be a 2024 type r is the 2023 the last production?

[@AllDayErrDay.]

Thinking about trading it in for the Integra Type S?

[@DavidTMSN]

The oem wheels and tires on this car are nice.

[@RaitisRides]

I agree on that one David

[@Enszourous]

With that exhaust valve, I wish we could get more noise like the Elantra N. Optional crackle tune. It's fun! Especially if it's optional.

[@TheFK8Life]

Elantras are slow 😂

[@DragonKnightX12]

@@TheFK8Life Lmo Yet people are out tracking CTRs with the DCT ENs.

[@TheFK8Life]

@@DragonKnightX12 No they aren't- my R makes 566whp and will smack any Elantra on earth. Hyundai engines are shit

[@mystictk4149]

It’s really a beautiful car and Honda did amazingly well with it, not many or any zonk honestly.

[@richardly438]

Can we remove the fake sound?

[@CSIG1001]

that piece on the door gloss black plastic pillar thing will cost 25 bucks to replace and it is easy to install., it will take 10 years for it to fade out , garage the car put some wax on it. i personally hate the mirrors are not painted for that kind of price, and the wing looks cheaper than the last gen. they wrap the battery now , maybe because of heat idk