Is the 2024 Nissan Z NISMO a BETTER sports car than a Ford Mustang Dark Horse?

[@SME5724]

I’m happy with where Nissan went with the Z … I just don’t think the Nismo is enough for the price hike

[@andrewmejia4371]

Same could be said about every other nismo z

[@G80pon]

They are asking 92,000 cad for a nismo z near me lol

[@davidriaz1182]

Nismo is overrated

[@Barricade2008]

Exactly, I decided to get a surpa over it

[@DragonKnightX12]

The car in general isn't worth it's price tag. Pretty much every other performance car in the 40-60k price range is a better buy

[@omarcortes5754]

I like the Z but I wouldn't pay for the Nismo badge. The regular version is more than enough, at least for me.

[@porfiriato84]

I wonder how much they'll cost in the used car market in a few years

[@RaitisRides]

Good call Omar

[@williamlevy1981]

Nah, I would want at least a Performance model.

[@realdeal173]

That color WILL NOT age well either.

[@kibblevert]

Im sure you could get a nismo bumper too

[@timcontreras]

I don’t mind the nismo, honestly it improved a lot from the normal Z. If it came in manual I’m sure most people wouldn’t mind it at all

[@andrewcaron1]

Most people buy the manual

[@jz7551]

@@andrewcaron1that’s not true

[@mhitson7483]

@@jz7551yes it is

[@EpiCz_Izzy]

I’ve had mine for just 5 days. Got ppf done for the full front. Been having a blast driving it. It’s my purely Sunday drive fun toy to have.

[@JesusChristIsTheOnlyWay]

Thanks Joe and Lori and team for all your hard work you guys bring us. Always a treat to open the youtubes and find this beauty as my first video 😎

[@ZillaFullBoost]

My Z has upgraded turbos and is a 9 sec car. People need to give the Z a chance before talking down on it.

[@RaitisRides]

This is a good point!

[@The-fs5wn]

The problem is competition. The Dark Horse is amazing. The Supra is really good. This is just decent for the price.

[@Barricade2008]

​@@The-fs5wnyep supra is just pound for pound better

[@andrewcaron1]

​​​​@The-fs5wn Have you seen the video showing paint peeling off the dark horse yet? Don't forget about build quality ford has the highest number of recalls of any manufacturer. The Supra is nice if you can get past the adolescent looks.

[@The-fs5wn]

@@andrewcaron1 nope. And it’s probably an exceptional case of it does exist.

[@gramb5611]

Really love color and the red accents 🔥 Wouldn't mind making this my 3rd Z

[@RaitisRides]

I had a feeling about that

[@paulwang5213]

The Nismo in my opinion is great, looks and design wise vastly improved than the Z Performance. However, I personally would still get the Performance and then spend the difference in price to modify it to my driving style. Main reason? The transmission. To me it's no longer about track times, it's about bringing a smile to my face and feeling connected to my baby.

[@Chris_really_]

Man that nismo exterior is sick 🤤🤤

[@Ethan_Alexandur]

Love the gray color

[@bobby3914]

I'll take z nismo over a mustang in a heartbeat z looks more exotic mustangs are a dime a dozen here in New York.

[@davidp2888]

Sick lookin' car. I'd take the regular version in blue.

[@RaitisRides]

I like the way you think!

[@MiguelSanchez-po2wl]

I always loved your retro references. You are awesome. 💪💪💪

[@thatsokay-f1e]

$68K for this car is crazy. Dealerships and Automakers are taking a piss.

[@MCN1SMO]

My favorite part about sport mode+ is how much more firm the power steering feels than in standard. It feels like adjusting the force feedback on your gran turismo wheel. the NISMO uses the same exhaust as the auto performance model so those pops and bangs are actually piped in sound effects also. I understand your thoughts about the 9AT but as the Z is currently set up the manual cars dont have access to the dynamic mode. so much of the NISMO is built around that sport mode+ ( even the timing is changed in sport+) you wouldnt get with the manual.

[@RaitisRides]

Very good point

[@realdeal173]

​@@RaitisRidesJoe, have you ever been stopped by the cops while going "ON THROTTLE!"?

[@tookiedew]

​@realdeal173 I'm sure he has a "ON THROTTLE!" get out of speeding ticket free card that he can show them if he does.

[@Masterboy21132]

Though this is a really nice car, I think the mustang has a more aggressive look! I prefer mustang. What does everyone else think?

[@blairbrown4812]

Mustang. I prefer the V8 and I kinda need the rear seats.

[@bman1668]

Supra > mustang >z

[@SavageListener]

Expect a 10k markup at 78k for a Nismo version. Not a stunning car for this price.

[@ClickbaitMotorsports]

The Dork Horse front looks like a new Honda Accord/CRV. Let's not even get into the raccoon eyes.

[@ClickbaitMotorsports]

@@bman1668Supra > Z > Mustang

[@LuisUrbieta]

Thank you for making my day Joe when you said feast your eyes!

[@RaitisRides]

I’m so glad that I could bring it to you

[@LuisUrbieta]

@@RaitisRides Yeah anytime you say that phrase, you think of me!

[@g.r4579]

You got the D-mode lol 😂 ah Joe that was funny. PHenomenal review great looking car.👍

[@jacksampson3278]

Nice review. When showing a car like this you should make sure that the engine bay is spotless!

[@williamfajardo7415]

The moment you were gonna mention the 1st NES title I was thinking Contra as well! That and Castlevania are my 2 favorite, thanks Joe! Great Z Nismo review as well

[@DarkJediChrisG-1425]

Joe, in that center console of the Nissan Nismo, I think it's big enough to fit Gizmo from Gremlins. But remember, don't get him wet or fed after midnight! Your chances of problems will multiply. 😉 But anyways aside from keeping your twinkies and Yohoo from Gismo, who wouldn't want to drive around with Gizmo in your Nismo? 😅

[@RaitisRides]

You are freaking hilarious Chris!

[@andrewcaron1]

I have owned a 350z and a 370z. Neither car ever had a recall. I never had a mechanical issue with either one of them. I wonder how many can say that about Ford Mustangs.

[@DavyDave1313]

No problems with mine and leave all those Zs in the dust too

[@mustafaaldujaili7239]

For the price, I will go for New M2 for sure!

[@crow_2k11beatsbydre8]

Where are all you NISSAN haters who love talking old news with their CVR issues. This Z Nismo is a beast.......

[@mjr9126]

Not Impressed with the nismo at all.

[@andrewcaron1]

​@mjr9126 that's ok

[@nicholaspacheco6005]

Wish this came in a manual. That would make this very desirable! And so much fun to drive

[@andrewcaron1]

You might change your mind once you drive one

[@bigdog9006]

I think I looked at that car at the dealership. It’s beautiful and I would buy it at the right price if offered.

[@bigdog9006]

Maybe not. I just saw the Tennessee tag.

[@RaitisRides]

That totally makes sense!

[@RaitisRides]

@@bigdog9006what does that have to do with anything?

[@bigdog9006]

@@RaitisRides The car that I looked at was in Clearwater. The car you reviewed had a TN tag.

[@andrewcaron1]

When you see one in person, you will realize that it is a beautiful car. Much nicer than a Ford Mustang or Supra in my opinion. Especially in white

[@bullittboost6046]

With dealerships mark ups. It’s going to be getting close to 80k. Not sure I see enough for that. I think 60k would be the sweet spot for this Z. Mark ups have really hurt sales in my area. I have only seen one new Z on the road.

[@mperformance3502]

There aren’t a lot of available Z’s for sale

[@bullittboost6046]

@@kevinmac9442 My local dealerships were putting 10k over sticker

[@RazorbackDevil]

15:14 I was definitely not expecting that NES game tangent but it was much appreciated 😂

[@Aschoolbusandsimulatorfan]

This would be my first car for my daily Joe.

[@Lord_Pilaf]

Looks way better than the regular Z with better performance, but no manual? Nissan really dropped the ball making it AT only.

[@IReviewIt]

Agree with Castlevania. Looks good and fun.

[@Thebusdriverandgamermorefan]

Amazing review Joe.

[@alanklaus7774]

The original Z was an entry level attractively priced sports styled car. 68k seems a bit high for what you get.

[@PQ28120]

Bruh, the z in 1993 could get above 35k. They were never cheap cars.

[@smittysmitty481]

Real nice!

[@RaitisRides]

I’m glad that you think so

[@smm7540]

God Damn it this Nismo was supposed to be AWD and way more HP then the regular Z damn it damn it damn it!

[@WRX_CARLITOS]

17:47 who the hell wants standard? That part killed me when he said that 😂😂

[@xxraverxxonxtacy]

Thanks Joe, but it's missing some things 🤔 maybe a 🕹️ and 3 pedals 😎

[@RaitisRides]

I agree with you!

[@andrewcaron1]

Yes but how many people would actually buy a manual

[@bryanj386]

@@andrewcaron1 way more than are buying the automatics that are now being discounted by dealerships

[@timwiedt]

Two-tone is the way to go

[@jerm_]

The best colors are the single tone ones tho unfortunately

[@RaitisRides]

I’m glad that you like this one!

[@RaitisRides]

@@jerm_I guess to each their own

[@nickmccarthy5115]

Love the car, slightly bigger exhaust tips would do wonders tho

[@RaitisRides]

This is a great point

[@bezzyranx9839]

🎯🎯🎯That’s exactly what I thought too!!👍🏾

[@marvinmurakami8828]

Put on some Borlas or Magnaflows.

[@DavyDave1313]

Yeah and like 100hp more.

[@zachreilly8266]

I agree stealth gray all over would be perfect. Not always two tone.

[@bobby3914]

Red anodized lug nuts ♥️

[@ClickbaitMotorsports]

Absolutely the Nismo Z is a better option than the Dork Horse. Just on the looks alone, the Nismo Z is 🔥. What a beauty! 🤌

[@RaitisRides]

I like what you did there

[@joshlamar1990]

70k no manual, tiny ,2003 platform give me the dark horse over the nislow Z

[@chrisgarcia5462]

​@@joshlamar1990no pedestrian stalker for. Z all day. 😂

[@ClickbaitMotorsports]

@@joshlamar1990 The Dork Horse is more expensive, uglier, slower and heavier than the S550. No thanks. If it were $50Ksh, maybe.

[@joshlamar1990]

@@ClickbaitMotorsports the nislow z is garbage I much rather get a Infiniti red sport 400 for 40k and mod it if I have to get a automatic. 70k for this 370z.5 is insane. And this car looks weird in certain angles especially the non nismo version.

[@jjmunz7718]

Beautiful vehicle for sure. We as REAL car enthusiasts love our turbocharged car's supercharged car's as well as naturally aspirated car's. Nissan needs too make this Nissan nismo manual though.

[@edunpeal]

Raiti going nostalgic with the NES games😭 not gonna lie Duck Hunt was shyt😂

[@06XTOR]

LOOKS SO GOOD

[@timwiedt]

Love the red trim

[@RaitisRides]

It really pops

[@RickMentore]

With the proliferation of SUVs, it nice to see manufactures continuing with these small sport cars!

[@ssjMaximum22Goku]

Exactly, all the complaining in the comment section is so uncalled for. At least Nissan is still offering these types of cars.

[@DesertRailProductions]

Cant wait for that one person thats gonna comment about the markups even though they sadly wont go away.

[@Zeyek1]

i would definitely buy

[@danielnwaogwugwu8116]

I see they changed the entire rear end of the vechicle which looks nice, the things that should've been added was a sunroof, red trim interior and electric seats. The entire exterior looks nice.

[@Harold.Richard]

Badass car, impossible to get due to “Supply Chain”, wait lists and dealer markups.

[@NathanDean79]

If you gave me a Mustang GT I would sell it to buy that Nismo Z. I think the Nismo Z is superior In every way. The Mustang GT is a bloated tired platform. And you can easily get the HP on that Z to 500. It’s 420 now you could get a sports exaust system turn the turbos up a bit and go into the computer and turn it up. Put a K&N oil filter and high flow Air filters in it. Just doing those things will get you to perhaps 475. And also in 20-30 years which vehicle do you think will be worth more? The limited production Z or a run of the mill Mustang GT. In 20 years you won’t be able to give away a 20 year old Mustang GT.

[@realdeal173]

Zs are definitely more collectible and these appear to be on the path of rarity so far. I've only seen two in the wild to date.

[@DWH300]

​@@realdeal173Your not seeing them because no one buys them.

[@scottbarker9058]

get a bakbone!!!!!!!amer. muscle..WANNABEEE!!!HILLARIUOUS!!!

[@andrewcaron1]

Nissan has changed their method of building cars to more sustainable methods. It looks like they have finally solved all the problems and you should more and more of these for sale and on the road.

[@NathanDean79]

No you aren’t seeing them because they can’t build them fast enough. I know 2 people who have them on order because every dealership within 100 miles were out of them. And the Nismo I think they are only making about 400. For the whole god damned world.

[@ericwelling1102]

I looked at one but they wanted 80k out the door. Killed it for me.

[@falcodog2917]

I just drove a Z performance manual and a Z performance 9 speed flat out back to back. I surprisingly really loved the auto and I think the 9 speed is a better package with this engine. I know it's an unpopular opinion but the auto is faster, sounds better and shifted it's close ratios fast under power and that kept it in the meat of the power band. There is a reason they didn't offer a manual in the GTR.

[@amill1563]

It's interesting that Matt Maran did not appreciate this vehicle given it's price.

[@dsmguy83]

I'm fine with the new Z, but just fine. Pricing is the biggest issue with me, for the old chassis refresh and VR30DDTT being shoehorned in.

[@MegaRetr]

The original Z was an entry level attractively priced sports styled car.😀

[@ericwelling1102]

It would be cool to see your speed and revs on the screen as you drive.

[@mortenstra]

The Nissan badge in front should have been blacked out 😊

[@RaitisRides]

That would have been the finishing touch

[@andyjohnson9402]

My first car was a 280 zx turbo full load. I fell in love. This car looks awesome, and your critique and criticism were spot on. Good job.

[@tomdrummy4984]

Nice ! 👍. Joe, sounds like it needs Porsche PDK trans 😃

[@RaitisRides]

Or a good old 6-speed manual

[@shamako4ever718]

Alright Joe let’s see if this Nissan Z will be the winner

[@RaitisRides]

Heck yeah man!

[@dominickirkwood]

Joe and Lori and Steve keep up the good work real true and I love the video real true 👍 and I love new z look good 👍 💯

[@wisdommorm]

Final Fantasy reference? Amazing 👏🏼👏🏼

[@CalAdkins]

That exhaust note though is noice 🎵👂

[@tri3pleagent]

To answer the question, no it's not better (despite my obvious bias) than the Dark Horse. But I've always been a fan of the Z. Just don't understand why this version wouldn't have a manual. That's a huge miss, IMO.

[@Mr-Nismo-Z]

I work for a Nissan dealership and we just got one in. This vehicle is beautiful and has great performance. Unfortunately. This vehicle was rushed. The red color is not Nismo red. Its closer to a Maroon color. There is no red stitching in the interior and no Nismo engine cover. It comes with the old key fob. Still. Not the one with the letter "Z" on it. Just the Nissan symbol. I have no doubt this will all be corrected along with a manual transmission. Im 100% intrested in purchasing this vehicle. Though, I will gladly wait a few years for an none rusted along with a $20k marked up vehicle. Still. This vehicle is outstanding.

[@RobHTech]

Back in the ‘90s, we just called them a Z or a ZX or 350Z or NISMO. And back then the tech they had was just fantastic. I like the new one. It’s pretty cool. I like the enthusiast focused retro but updated interior. Ya the trans is very slow. They should have used a ZF.

[@andrewcaron1]

Other reviewers are happy with the transmission and say it is up there with the ZF

[@Digiphex]

I'm ready to buy one if they add som GTR features like leather, power seats option at least, adaptive ride to make it ok as a daily driver.

[@flea4061]

Meh, no adaptive suspension, no manual. 65K. BEFORE markup. That's a tough sell.

[@RaitisRides]

I know how you feel.

[@andrewcaron1]

What sells more an auto mustang or manual mustang

[@emg6081]

$70K for a Z???????? LMAO

[@kinghill500]

Nice car

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for sharing your feelings on this one

[@alanklaus7774]

I’m old. When I was in hs in the 70s it was around $3500. That was about the same as a Buick Skylark. Which one would any teenager want to drive for similar price? Yes they continually escalated up the price chain in comparison to other cars over the years. Even with inflation it has gone up comparatively.

[@richki.24]

It is a sweet looking ride ...

[@Bum_Hip]

I love the idea, am looks of new Z, but at least here in Vegas, there are none to buy, or even test drive. Not sure how committed Nissan is to selling too many of them.

[@iaminyouout1813]

I still haven't seen one in person yet 😢

[@AJY6396]

after my 2023 Mazda 3 HB, this would be the next goal 💯💯💯

[@DragonKnightX12]

Going by numbers it's more GT and Supra 3.0 level. Plus if you're paying all that for a auto, might as well get a C8! I still think Nissan dropped the ball on pricing, this should be $55k priced against the Supra 3.0.. You could also get the Supra's more luxurious twin for this money. Enjoy the sound of the B58 and the wind in your hair. 😎

[@andrewcaron1]

You think you can get a c8 for 68k?

[@DragonKnightX12]

@@andrewcaron1 You can get a second hand one for as low as 67k or a new in the low 70k. Just saying after tax, title, and few you're probably looking at 72-73k here... provided you can get it for MSRP. Might as well bump up.

[@jovani6044]

Nismo all the way 🔥💪🏽

[@johntomlin803]

Also for 65k I would go a buy a 718 cayman put a 5k breather tuning kit on it; make 420hp an have more comfortability, better steering, better interior, break more necks, I mean it’s just amazing car.

[@RaitisRides]

What do you think the price should be on this?

[@matthewpurpura]

I love what they did with the new Prius

[@ixDye07]

Hey Joe, what size are those calipers ?

[@forgottenautos8461]

the fronts are 4-piston Akebonos just like the regular Sport/Nismo (370Z) brakes. The difference is the caliper is larger and provides an extra inch of rotor to 15 inches. The rears are identical to the previous rear Akebonos.

[@RaitisRides]

4-piston

[@RaitisRides]

@@forgottenautos8461thanks for the assist

[@redcastlearmy]

Castlevania, Contra, and Mario 2 all choice nugs!

[@caclavijo]

You best test drive since Supra 2.0 and Supra 3.0

[@FloridaMan23]

ive never seen one on the road here in fla

[@MegaRetr]

NISMO stands for NOBODY INVESTIGATE SPORT MORE OBVIOUSLY 😀

[@kingcatx2]

Ahh yes contra what a great game that was. 👍

[@Loveroflife5.0.]

Manual seats ?????

[@mattmanley7118]

Still haven’t even seen a new Z on the roads 😢😢 Are they still having paint issues or are the dealers just marking them up so high that no one is buying them? 😢😢😢

[@RaitisRides]

That’s a great question!

[@salimrandall]

It’s a bit modest if you ask me. More power and a bigger wing was in order imo.

[@dxnes5067]

looks great but other cars are more attractive in that price range. I’m sure these will be rarely seen out on the roads though so that can play into getting one

[@e2622]

No, Nissan. No. Manual transmission or GTFO. Sorry, that is inexcusable. Even if they were as good looking at the 370Z, that makes them completely irrelevant. Now I know i care even less about these cars than I did before. Excellent video !! Thank you for keeping another money bucket away from my lustful eye.

[@techyin326]

The answer is yes.

[@davidnichols8433]

How much $$$$ to mod ,add in your performance car reviews, the aftermarket parts

[@RaitisRides]

That’s a great point

[@ivanes1012]

Yeah I like the “glasss bluh” wheels too

[@user-zv3fe4nz8o]

Cool car but there aren’t any near my area and haven’t been for years. They should make more Z’s.

[@RaitisRides]

I agree with you!

[@luludvega]

I honestly think this is one of the ugliest sports cars ever released. For this price I would much rather get a dark horse or spend a little more on a base C8 corvette. Not sure what Nissan is doing at this point

[@G.G.001]

It's a good looking car especially in this color but I don't think like it enough to want to purchase one. That 9 speed auto only is definitely a deal breaker for this type of car. Kind of missing some character imo.

[@Nismo1983]

Automatic is faster then Manual version those old days are over it like F1 Style 9speed launch 🚀 control and it a fact automatic sports cars are faster then Manual Version . There no Comparing the Z to new mustang especially ford means ford off road dead Nissan is real daddy!

[@aneelejaz8097]

I’ll go with mustang gt

[@latino914]

NISM⭕ 🔥🔥😍