Is The Flash Faster than Nightcrawler? (Because Science w/ Kyle Hill)

[@Nerdist]

Why aren't Nightcrawler's teleportations super loud? New mini-episode over on my Insta (instagram.com/sci_Phile/). Thanks for watching nerds! -- KH

[@199niga]

Nerdist doesn't flash travel faster than the speed of light

[@huseyingul1720]

Nerdist dude wally west flash runs faster then a teloporting alien

[@VerbiGereando]

Nerdist you revive my love for science :) thank you so much

[@SoffiCitrus]

Hüseyin Gül Nightcrawler isn't an alien.

[@Drstrangegloves1]

Nerdist so my problem with this video is that you're essentially needing the flash by making his ability follow the laws of physics and yet you do not do the same for night crawler

[@Nerdist]

Alright I see where this is going. Here's an FAQ: *Yes, the Flash has beaten instantaneous teleportation in the comics before. But then it's not instantaneous is it? Any kind of travel takes time (even backwards in time), and so saying you can beat instant travel is more a semantics question than a physics question. *Yes, the Flash can run FTL and go back in time in the comics. I wanted a race, and as far as we know FTL travel is impossible, so I gave him a limit that we could work with. It's always more fun to add to a universe rather than debunk it! *If we want to analyze these kind of battles at all scientifically, we need to make reasonable assumptions. Assuming backwards time travel and/or FTL travel makes it a non-starter. I gave Nightcrawler the benefit of the doubt because I think it's an interesting question, and that we can learn from it! Thanks for keeping me on my toes! -- KH

[@HalleyRios]

Dude, what abou time dilation? I guess, correct me if I'm wrong, at Flash's perspective no time have passed at all, so if he starts with full speed, he will get to finish line instantaneously.

[@reapertoa]

doesnt nigthy boy needs to see the place he teleports to before he can actually teleport? yeah if we could make a long straight lane without obstacles for both of them to race, vision wouldnt matter but..... doesnt the eyes take a few moments to process the light that comes to them to form the image? effectively giving an edge of 0,00001 seconds to the flash that doesnt actually need to see where he is going (and can actually see while running at speed of light.. because speed force)

[@noelalexiusson2184]

The flash isn't limited to the laws of our physics, he's got his own

[@thesamuraiman]

I would say yes, it's still instantaneous, because the Flash moved so fast he approached trans-time velocity, which, if the old comics have their science decent, Flash could be anywhere and everywhere at the same time. So he kinda broke speed in that moment. Being faster than instant.

[@elgyondb9143]

It is still instantaneous, you have to take the concept that you used in this video. It took nightcrawler time to 'rematerialize' to the intended destination. All flash has to do is make it to the destination before they rematerialize which he has done in the comics

[@dontmessup63]

Didn't flash beat instant teleportation in some story line?

[@Shadowdragzkid]

OlympicFilms Yes

[@Hhhh22222-w]

OlympicFilms If that were the case then it wouldn't be instant teleportation

[@ArcaneWorkshop]

He did!! Wasn't it like... across planets too?

[@teensrygley]

Hara Suparyanto not really he beat them because he got there before they would have reconstructed themselves on the other side. But also consider it was never explained how the teleported

[@Nerdist]

Exactly. -- KH

[@Buttonmstr]

When he assumed The Flash's speed limit to be the speed of light "because physics", I laughed because of how Flash artists explain his physics-breaking feats..."because Speedforce."

[@nickpheonixify]

but this is "because science" therefore everything has to be within the realm of SCIENCE

[@FlaredTurbo]

Faruel N.A The flash can go faster than the time Barrier which is much greater than the light barrier at a 10x670616629 mph

[@gastongarre590]

I didn't know teleportation was in the realm of Science

[@brandonmyers1876]

Speedforce= writers couldn't come up with something better to explain everything about the Flash

[@nickpheonixify]

wormhole theory? is it correct? probably not but it has not been disproved yet lol

[@travis1984ify]

Actually, in the X-Men animated series, there was an episode that explained the Kurt (NIghtcrawler) still had to cover the same physical distance, he wasn't actually teleporting through space/time. Instead, he was teleporting into another dimension, crossing the physical space from where he started, to where he wanted to appear, then teleporting into that same space back in our dimension. It only looks instantaneous to us, because time in the other dimension runs so much slower.

[@ironicanimations]

Ohhhh, so the “other dimension’s time being slower than our world” makes so much more sense now, as to why it’s instantaneous

[@SonicSSpeed000]

Then again if they wait till some type of "Go!" the flash would immediately start running at the speed of light the literal second he sees it while Kurt has to make the decision to teleport in the first place while Flash is already moving at lightspeed. He would make it there and back many times before Nightcrawler actually initiates his teleportation

[@anderstimmerman7319]

Simply Beast dosnt the flash also have to make the decision to start running? And wouldn't the thought of teleporting be faster to think about running then running?

[@ChaseWD]

The flash can think at the same speed he can run, so he can make the decision to run waaaaaay faster than Kurt can make the decision to teleport

[@mrmcawesome9746]

Like, hundreds of thousands of times faster, like, the Flash would be there, back, there again, back again, and so on for hundreds of times before Kurt noticed the Go! signal :/

[@spkillingit1310]

i think the specific time he can think in is one attosecond, a theoretical measurement of time for us. we've only measured to 11 attoseconds, if i remember correctly.

[@shineshadow]

If you want to compare the speed of both you simply have to assume that both start at the same point even if that would mean that you would have to delay Flash so both start at exactly the same time. This is a test of speed not of reaction.

[@Tharanak]

Of course, there was that one time the Flash ran across the entire universe, and still beat instant teleportation... (very impossible, but still...).

[@bikerssuckass8158]

Tharanak I mean.. everything in the 'super-hero universe' is impossible.. but.. sure..

[@mclaxplayer]

Tharanak I came to the comments section to say specifically that

[@Aquillion]

Same.

[@Beastrider9]

Yeah, but Flash had to 'borrow' speed from like, everyone in the universe (If I remember right) to pull that off.

[@everettlogan2433]

"Yeah your car is faster than mine, but you also had to change the engine that came with the car with a different one" winning is winning

[@theone8329]

see I would agree with you but didn't the flash beat someone using instant teleportation across the Galaxy. gear fourth going faster than the shortest amount of time measurable which is a plank second if I am not mistaken

[@theone8329]

in other words the Flash is speed

[@Jason-kp4vc]

Flash is the fastest if you consider short distances.. but teleportation ultimately trumps everything.

[@artic_ryuu1177]

Jason Grace Man I see you commenting in every comment trying to prove or change people's minds. Flash is a fictional character, you can't just take him and try to apply the physics of our universe on him so easily. The speed force is what allowed him to beat instant teletransportation, because... speed force. You like it or not, make sense or not, that's how it went in the comic. If you won't take the speed force in account when you try and explain him then don't try it in the first place, if you take the speed force out of him he is simply no longer the Flash.

[@AtomicLimelight]

it is actually called a Plank Instant. but you were quite close

[@Jason-kp4vc]

DC writers confirmed that the physics of our universe applies to the DC universe as well, that's why speedforce exists, Supes has forcefields and stuff. They WANT us to apply the physics, that is the reason for writing in an omnipresent entity which allows speedsters to go faster than speedforce. And to beat the teleportation, he needed the power of the entire human race. I'll show you the calculations if you want, done by Aweseomemeccry as proof: Remember that time when Flash "outran" the teleporter in the comic "the human race"? Welp, I finally have it within my power to end this debate. Prepare yourself: So, during this comic, flash challenges a teleporter to a race; first one who can make it to Earth wins. Now, before Flash begins the race, he needs as MUCH kinetic energy as he can possibly get, so he asks everyone on Earth to start running. Plus he had Krakkl's speed (who is ftl) and all of krakkl's people's speed. So, now that flash has absorbed as much kinetic energy as he can possibly get to amplify the power of his speed force, he is ready to race someone who can warp. Now, let's science: Wally vs cosmic gamblers. During this race, he states that he manages to reach "trans-time velocity", going beyond the limits of time and space, to match the speed of an instantaneous signal as it crosses the distance from the Moon to the Earth. As it was supposedly instantaneous, but moving from Wally's perspective, and Wally's transition to "trans-time speed" was described as taking "a fraction of a second so infinitesimal no word exists to describe it", it would actually be conservative to say he crossed the distance from the moon to the Earth in 1 Planck time. What is planck time? Basically the smallest unit of time possible in our universe. Now for some math: Earth-Moon distance = 384,000 km. Planck time = 5.39106e-44 seconds. Thus Wally's speed here is a mind-shattering 2.375944852e43c. After this he slows down a bit, but still manages to set every radio on Earth to a specific frequency within what he calls a "septo-second". I can't find any statistics on the amount of radios in the world, but it's a very common technology that has been around for over a century, so just to be conservative I'll say 1 billion. Now what I'm going to do next is probably a bit sloppy, but it's the best I could think of. Surface area of Earth = 510,072,000 km^2. Divided by 1 billion, we get 0.510072 km^2. Assuming the radios are equidistant (obviously not but it's the only thing I can think of), the radius of a circle with that area would be 5.455407592 m. Double this to get the average distance between radios, 10.91081518 m. Multiply this by a billion for the total distance traveled: 10,910,815,180 m. 1 Septosecond = 10e-21 seconds, so his speed here would be 3.639456195e22c. Finally, estimating the total average speed of the race against the Cosmic Gamblers, they started on the other side of the universe: And reached Earth before the gambler had time to process a thought. Using 0.0083333333 seconds, and the diameter of the universe at 93 billion light-years, the average speed would be 3.519417614e20c. So for short, Flash with the power of THE HUMANS managed to run at: 23,759,448,520,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000x the speed of light. So there you go. It isn't instant, but it's fast. So there you see, teleportation trumps everything. If Flash travelled across the universe in an instant, it would take 2 instants for him to travel across 2 universes, 3 instants for 3 universes and so on. Meanwhile, teleportation has the constant speed everywhere. It's nigh-omnipresence, and only omnipresence can beat it. So no, there are loads of beings faster than Flash.

[@leelabrah7106]

You need to factor in Flashs reaction time. Nightcrawler has to think of a location, while the flash is already running the very plank-second the race starts because of how Flash perceives time.

[@edranzelledoll296]

If they're in a race.. Probablynight crawler knows where the finish line before the race starts

[@gagejoseph91]

So if The Flash accelerates too quickly and his clothes rip off in public, does he become...The Flash?

[@cryptic8630]

gagejoseph91 If only

[@gagejoseph91]

Time is so fleeting. How long has it been? In this realm of void, the immaculate oblivion rends all reason. My search has lead me to ruin. Emptiness. Nothingness. The faintest of sparks flicker in my decayed, withered mind. Why am I here? What is my goal? Why do I search? It has been so long. Beyond time and logic. Slithering doubt seeps into my being. This is insanity. True, black despair. I have given up. I have given up hope of finding someone on the internet that can take a joke.

[@THETRIVIALTHINGS]

Underrated lol

[@thefourthfry]

gagejoseph91 dude he has a fucking badass ring which stores his ever so perfect outfit.

[@wrench246]

you also did not factor in reaction time. flash reacts way faster than nightcrawler. he would start running way before nightcrawler even knew it was time to start

[@n7titan243]

Sure, but still teleportation is supposed to beat flash over the long distance. IE: Light from far away stars take a long time to reach us at lightspeed, but teleportation is instant. We never see Flash go Lightspeed or beyond from the starting point like how Kyle did it. He always takes effort to accelerate to lightspeed, so was it fair to give Flash 0 Sec reaction time and not Kurt? I say no

[@transparentbystander253]

N7titan Did you know there was a comic of the flash going faster than instant teleportation?

[@cinco9788]

N7titan You are basically saying that nightcrawler's brain cells process faster than light? Also flash is faster than light itself.

[@theespecificocean]

Lmao so the flash is a fucking cheater!? XD

[@SirGrizzlyman]

Joe Higashi he did... he said his reaction is assumed to be 0.001 ms and it takes 0 s to teleport hence total time to travel the distance would be 0.001 milliseconds which is his reaction time. Its not realistic number if he had 0.1 ms then would beed to travel 6.5 million meters in one teleport to beat flash

[@loki-fe7co]

Nightcrawler can teleport as far as he can see or if he's been there befor

[@alexlanter9928]

loki *Looks at mars in the night*

[@meridian4093]

loki that was only in apocalypse and when he first learned to teleport. In his prime, so was able to teleport anywhere as long as he could picture it in his mind

[@tinasnow_]

loki false

[@zydicate9681]

And the flash can stop time and go back in time

[@sageanimations2463]

@@alexlanter9928 lol you need to know what specific coordinates or location in mars you can't just look at the moon and teleport and if you can your probably gonna teleport Infront of the moon not in the surface of the moon

[@unfa00]

I really like the bloopers at the end, it shows that Kyle is very passionate about these topics and that he's not just a face presenting this show to us.

[@petertownsend9148]

This doesn't work but it assumes that the amount of time it takes Nightcrawler to teleport is the same no matter the distance. When Nightcrawler teleports he briefly enters another dimension that he uses as a short cut to get to his destination, however teleporting him further than his normal max distance causes him to spend longer in that dimension and therefore delays how long it takes for him to reappear on the other side. There's a whole episode of X-men Evolution where Forge builds Nightcrawler a machine that increases his teleport range, but it causes him to spend a lot more time in the other dimension.

[@TinchoX]

Good info there, is it canon though?

[@petertownsend9148]

TinchoX I'm working on finding proof, but I'm fairly certain it is. It's the reason why there's the sent of brimstone every time he teleports. The canonicity changes throughout the years however so it's hard to find definitive proof.

[@RDeathmark]

TinchoX I can't provide proof that that's true but it's the explanation for nightcrawlers powers that my friend told me as well

[@LupineShadowOmega]

+Peter Townsend You shouldn't have had to look far for proof. Nightcrawler's father is Azazel whom is locked in the very dimension Kurt teleports through, that was his plan with all of his children. They're all an attempt by him to get out of his imprisonment once and for all, thus they all have powers connected to that dimension.

[@kaimagnus5760]

I thought I remembered something about a sulfer smell when Nightcrawler teleports. I also remember an episode of the X-Men Evolution TV Show where his teleportation slows down and shows he's porting through either a hellscape or possible The Actual Hell when he teleports.

[@ALegitimateYoutuber]

But the flash is beyond speed and time. he literally can move beyond any possible measurement. hell he beat instant teleportation, across the universe. Which means he moved from one location to another, faster than it takes 0 seconds to reach itself. Thus pretty much moved so fast he stopped being fast, because there was no form of time that could be used to calculate how fast he even moved.

[@Jaxymann]

John J He did that with the help of the Justice League and the entire population of earth lending him their kinetic energy. The only reason he won was "Because Speedforce".

[@Nerdist]

None of that makes sense and we learn nothing. I want to get something out of these questions, you know? Other comic channels will just list off powers and make a conclusion. I don't think we actually learn anything from that. -- KH

[@justindownes8819]

Nerdist The flash can teleport. All he would have to do is Run through time and arrive at the finish line 1 attoseccond after he left the start.

[@lorensoth4365]

Kurt is not teleporting, his dimensional shifting twice. Once to leave here, and then again in the Brimstone Dimension to come back to a destination he is familiar with on "earth". Flash can time travel and shift dimensions with some restrictions and it take him time to do so or the use of a device like the "Cosmic Treadmill". To be fair...have both phase shift in and out of the Brimstone Dimension or have both race in an unfamiliar location on earth.

[@Boeing_hitsquad]

Wally can arrive anywhere before anyone.. so even if Kurt can beat Wally or Barry in speed, Wally can for sure beat him using time manipulation and arrive there first.

[@CalumkennedyDietrich]

Using the same assumptions, the flash would be able to travel back in time (at light speed) and finish the race even before it starts

[@Nerdist]

He could punch you yesterday. -- KH

[@logansmith7517]

DontLoseToDoubt TM what if the race is 651 km? The flash wins

[@reck6328]

Not really, I've never seen a race where the rules include not being allowed to go back in time

[@reck6328]

I don't really care who wins, I just would want them to be able to use all their abilties. to see who would actually win.

[@ABaumstumpf]

Nightcrawler would only win if you seriously slowed the Flash down. Cause at least according to canon he can run many times faster than the speed of light. might break causality, but who cares.

[@freebandzjin]

You also have to take into account that Flashes reaction time is faster. As soon as the race began, before Nightcrawler would even think to teleport, Flash would already be half way to the finish line. 🏁

[@JesseDoctorGilbert]

I thought that nightcrawler could teleport to anywhere he has been.. or seen

[@Justinhulk]

Still not fast enough

[@sethcavenar8857]

Justinhulk If he had seen something across the universe and teleported there at the same 0.002 seconds. The flash wouldn't be able to make it in time.

[@Justinhulk]

Have you not read any other comments??? The flash can run from 1 edge of the universe to another faster than instant teleportation 0.002 seconds is really slow and the flash would be able to run there then do about 400 laps around the world and still be there in time

[@Justinhulk]

aka 23,759,449,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000x the speed of light faster than instant teleportation. shown in the race between the cosmic gamblers to see if he could run across the universe way faster than instant teleportation

[@djcayo1]

Like squid said, it's called trans time velocity. Not to mention he can run so fast that he can move through time. So theoretically they could start the race, and he could arrive at the finish line 5 minutes before the race started

[@seigeengine]

The biggest issue I see is that you're ignoring reaction times. Even if we assume all other limitations are the same, and nightcrawler could trigger his teleportation instantaneously, if he had normal human reaction times, by the time he realized the race had started, the flash would already be 75000 km away. Even if he had much faster reaction times, without flash-like speed, he's basically beaten right there.

[@cezgamer]

the assumption is that they both react at the same time, because at that point are you measuring the reaction times or just the time it takes to travel the distance? To prove the point, did your comment ever address the actual speed they travel (from a to b) or the time it takes for them to begin traveling(how long before they realize the race started)? Everyone is applying the wrong numbers to unimportant things.

[@seigeengine]

cezgamer Reaction times matter because that's part of the Flash's speed.

[@cezgamer]

Yeah but again are we measuring there reactions or how fast they travel? What is the situation you gave for the flash? That by the time nighcralwer could THINK about teleportating and decide to activate it, flash would have surpassed him. You did not say BETWEEN the time nightcrawlers ability activates and completes, he would surpass him. Yeah, flash reacts faster then the nc, but again, at that point you are measuring different things because what matters in that situation, how fast they move or how fast they can think to move?

[@seigeengine]

cezgamer We are comparing how fast they are in a race. Reaction times are part of races. Go fuck yourself.

[@umadona3589]

seigeengine W

[@PitFriend1]

Who cares who is faster? I want to know how you write backwards with both hands simultaneously! Because science? Or sorcery?

[@cobydacat7564]

Pit Friend i know me 2

[@babasemka]

Mirrored. Because... common sense.

[@willy71220]

KJRWARWET 123

[@fiisshh961]

Because ambidextrous and mirrored video.

[@babasemka]

Correct answer is - mirrored. Because... Kyle admited it himself.

[@shaunkanes369]

He also wouldn't tear them apart because he controls the speed force wich let's him sorta control reality

[@jacknapier9042]

"Let's say flash is as fast as light" (quits watching) Seriously, why do DC character breakdowns always nerf the shit out of them? The flash outran the gravity a blackhole (light can't) The flash can run so fast he literally rips through time and reality. The speed force allows him to go far beyond light speed. He can think in less than attoseconds. The flash is unfathomably fast. Teleportation is null at this point.

[@AsianIdiots323]

Jack Napier Because those numbers are basically incalculable, which is useless for a math based show? Duh?

[@jacknapier9042]

I understand he needs numbers to work with, but gutting the character's abilities in an ability-based video is just sorta, 'eeeehhhhhh.' And his line about 'because physics' leads me to believe he sets flash at equal to light speed because of e=mc2, which flash can ignore if he so chooses, which ignoring that is a massive limitation to his power. Saying flash is fast is like saying thor's hammer is heavy, it's true, but not totally accurate.

[@maddockemerson4603]

Yeah except the thing is, uh, that's uh, we have a word for that kind of argument, it's on the tip of my tongue, it's uh... Oh yeah: god-modding bullshit.

[@jacknapier9042]

It's god modding to use a character's canon abilities when discussing their (you guessed it) canon abilities? Okay.

[@alphamav3rickgaming]

Wasn't it he could perceive things that happen in a picosecond. I maybe be getting that confused with attoseconds and I'm not sure which one is faster. Please feel free to correct me

[@melakalikimaka]

Well sticking to the laws of physics i feel like the Flash shouldn't be able to run at light speed and Nightcrawler shouldn't be able to teleport, so don't stick to the laws of physics, also which Flash is racing because Wally is faster than Barry and the Flash also ran a distance further than our solar system in the smallest measurable amount of time known to human kind, but he was even faster basically teleporting, just faster

[@melakalikimaka]

Btw you also said that the Flash gets to light speed instantly soooo... the Flash shouldn't have to gain the speed up his line should be like Night Crawlers or if anything Night Crawlers line should curve up

[@iliketrains263]

Abssurd laws of physics do not apply to the speedforce

[@vizualwarrior129]

Abssurd which Wally? black one or white one? I've been hearing this around a lot lately and it's getting me annoyed because I know damn well that Barry has been the fastest for the longest time ever and I don't know too much about Wally west and definitely don't know much about the black Wally west so I'm kind of confused here is this after flashpoint new 52 or what? Please explain lol

[@KillerWailz]

SERIOUSLY HOW ARE YOU SUCH A MASTER AT WRITING BACKWARDS! ITS A SUPERPOWER IN ITS SELF

[@superuber2096]

KillerWailz Dude. mirror.

[@KillerWailz]

Super Uber ohhh thx

[@goodjobeli]

its not that hard.......

[@KillerWailz]

Some Crazed Nerd k

[@robertcajucom3203]

"Instantaneous movement is instantaneous"- Toryama Akira

[@GuyLogen]

And flash moves beyond that. Yeah... It's comic book logic. Just like it's impossible to move faster than light (yet characters do it), it's certainly not beyond flash to move faster than instantaneous teleportation (both scenarios don't make sense in our world but in the comic book world they have something called the speedforce).

[@Auron1Roxas2]

Last time I checked he didn't write for either marvel or DC.

[@l0sts0ul89]

@@Auron1Roxas2 Lol

[@ElonMasks]

Ultra instinct

[@silly7eraph]

But flash has beat instantaneous teleportation tho

[@JeffDKillaGaming]

WumbosWays yah a race to earth

[@DanielGomez-fk3on]

he required everyone on Earth to do something anything as fast as they can. that was to generate speed in the speed force so that the flash can use all the speed he can from it to beat that instantaneous teleportation.

[@kokosnotenXD]

Well yes there are specific conditions, but nightcrawler would possibly die teleporting that far, so he is under a special condition aswell, and if the distance is further than 650 he'd die so any race longer than that the flash would win, so he's still the fastest except for a very small window of length

[@afrimabdiji5337]

Daniel Gomez yes, but I think someone told me that he can run 13 tredicillion times faster than light. Without anyone helping.

[@richgoldendoor4240]

I think its trillion because I heard 13 trillion in a multitude of debates.

[@davrickdavrick7245]

flash out ran a teleport... sure everyone on earth was running, but that is his top speed the span of the universe in less then a nano second

[@Velocity_AU]

Actually it was much less then a nano second, it was so fast that its been called Trans-time, its impossible to measure.

[@Jason-kp4vc]

... Sure, okay, Supreme Kai teleported Goku, Beerus and others to the realm of Zeno, beyond the universes in an instant. So there ya go, he's faster than Flash, without any aid too!

[@BlueBird-wb6kb]

Any character can do "insert this" if the Author says the character can do it.... authors contantly change characters.. scrub

[@adamalakshar4226]

watch imaginary axis how fast is the flash

[@XVenoMXVenoM]

davrick davrick the flash is 100% going to win because QS Could Outrun Nightcrawler easily

[@tyriquesmith8850]

I know this is going to be commented 50 million times, but the Flash once ran faster than instant teleportation.

[@paragbasu8163]

Tyrique Smith u idiot no object with mass can travel at light speed flash cant travel thet fast actually because thats comic stupid science

[@MrKimberly2001]

parag basu And yet teleportation is okay. Seems reasonable

[@MrKimberly2001]

parag basu By the way that was sarcasm. I know you might not have understood it because you were dumb enough to comment what you did, so yea. Clarification.

[@titlo3646]

Tyrique Smith yes but he had to increase the speed force, a lot

[@tyriquesmith8850]

titlo3 True, but these matches are usually about Full potential so I was just throwing it out there.

[@gentlemendog1189]

Hey flash moves 6,000,000 times faster than the speed of light and beat a alien that has a chair that teleports in a instant to the end of the universe.

[@lilthommodt]

Indeed, sprinted from the edge of the universe to earth in a Planck instant, the shortest measurable span of time.

[@lucas-xf7rc]

Thats the most idiotic shit i have ever heard , even in comics Edit: i mean , why is there still crime in dc's world if thats the case , why are there other superheroes?? They arent needed

[@thememeguy2195]

He needed the help of everyone on the planet to run so he could do that, not everyone will do that when the Flash has run somewhere.

[@lucas-xf7rc]

@@Stuartw100 what??? Man , all im saying is that that power is way to op for not having any drawback ( as far as im aware ) . Sure , comics are a place where litteraly anything can happen , but if theres a story , you have to pay atention to it...

[@lucas-xf7rc]

@@Stuartw100 well then in that case , my bad... But still , its a little "to much" for me

[@jaredhoward2396]

With Flash's ability to time travel he could technically arrive before he left the starting line.

[@ottopike737]

hard to beat that.

[@obnoxas]

Lol

[@VrishabhDB]

Not really coz it would cause a paradox

[@grzegorzbozyk2023]

Kyle, the Flash can run back in time and arrive at finish line exactly the moment he left the start line, thus making beating him in any race basically impossible. You realize that, right?

[@nathanalexandre9043]

Almost any race :)

[@oursaviourdearleaderjimpic4225]

Gregory Bożyk and nightcrawler can only teleport to places remembers/been to

[@Dan-lf5mi]

hellen Keller is bae it's sees and has been to

[@Shannaras1984]

How can nightcrawler ever win when the Flase has won a race argents beings the can show up instentaniesli and they ditten even start on eath but endet here.

[@Ali-bd6kb]

Grzegorz Bożyk you realize that the flash is way faster than light making him impossible to beat by anyone who doesn't have infinite speed so he doesn't really need to go back in time

[@alexeysviridov9046]

there was one moment when flash ran faster that some comic people teleported. That distance was definately bigger than 300 km and 650km, soooooo yeaaahhhhh.

[@maxdrags3115]

He had help in order to do that though.

[@crusatyr1452]

But what says that he wouldn't have help in the race?

[@VulpesChama]

Well,it could also be made a question of terrain. Like putting an infinite gap between start- and finish line could give (depending on the width of that gap) Flash a very hard time.

[@jonathanwiggins7017]

flash beat instant in a race across the universe soooo nuff said

[@jjjohn7067]

True but he had to borrow speed from other people if memory serves me right

[@joezyadeh4805]

joe mama your memory is not wrong but the kinetic energy he stole was put into the speed force me .every step a speedster takes with it increases his or her speed because it increases the energy added to the speed force. so even though some KE was given back, he still gained a tremendous amount of speed due to every footstep he took in that race

[@jiggidyjosh4273]

Barry is the only one who actually generates energy for the speed force yes.

[@marcosfrancisco1696]

Josh Rozario yea butbwally is fastest cause he has trouble not going speed of light

[@Nerdist]

Then it wasn't instantaneous. -- KH

[@anonymousbanana3144]

Because the flash can run back in time, doesn't that mean he could reach the end in a negative amount of seconds? (before he even left?)

[@sergiolozavillarroel3784]

AnonymousBanana He will find himself in front of him. It is like run in circles (but with time), but there will be infinite flashes. However that is impossible.

[@anonymousbanana3144]

? no he wouldn't? he would be there before night crawler, while his past self will not have reached the finish line yet, except it would eventually. yes there would probably be an infinite amount of him, but that doesnt defeat the fact that he was there first.

[@Scott100W]

Kyle used the assumption that he's running @ the speed of light, so the Flash should finish the race at the exact time he started moving if he reached top speed instantly.

[@Hydraclone]

Light takes time to travel, buddy.

[@trevorsangsland7572]

Sergio Loza why?

[@DuskMindAbyss]

The issue is that Nightcrawler doesnt simply teleport in a place and magically appears in another, but rather his power consists of teleporting to an alternate demon world in another dimension (not universe, dimension) and moving really fast in that world and then reappear in the real world. He moves throught that world so quickly that he is in no danger, but you can slow down this process in order to access thos demon world. That dimension, btw is filled with demons and burning fire and smoke, and thats why we see smoke whenever he teleports. So there is your reference to look up for the speed of his teleporting powers. I also think there is an X-M3n evolution episode about this...

[@steggyweggy]

This comment section is cancer along with Flash's amount of speed. He breaks all kinds of laws that we know of, and then the writers just use the speed force to save their asses all the time. I almost feel like Superman is less overpowered than the Flash sometimes.

[@jerven325]

Survivor Soul how does that make the comment section cancer? You may think it’s shitty writing but facts are still facts whether you like them or not

[@kovoempire4093]

Survivor Soul That's because superman is less overpowered

[@jeremiahnoe5361]

Well, that's probably because Superman is less overpowered than the Flash. They have to nerf or just ignore the implications of Flash's abilities on a way more constant basis than Superman's to keep stories interesting.

[@blankblank1284]

The Flash can destroy anything easily. And travel through time, create black holes, stop time, etc. And thats just in fiction. He would be even stronger in real life.

[@contessa4490]

Overpowered in lazy writing, fans be like: Because speed force! Speed force is kinda like boring.

[@mattsgaming7172]

hopefully someone will correct me on this this, but didnt the flash beat a big bad guy that could teleport from outer space somewhere because of a build up of kinetic energy having everyone on earth run on the spot or this purely without outside help?

[@Nerdist]

Haha that's nuts. -- KH

[@DefactoOverlord]

Yes. In the comic Flash:The Human Race. From what I understood, Wally West Flash runs to Earth faster than Planck Instant, essentially negating time itself.

[@gamerfellow]

He did...but it was calculated (By the Imaginary Axis) that he was traveling trillions of times the speed of light which would've gone against his assumption cause physics.

[@Nerdist]

heh wut -- KH

[@azuregriffin1116]

Matt Crane-Watts, that moment when you realise you are probably the only person in your class that would have followed that conversation, at least with such ease... I feel let down by my fellow 13/14 year olds. Please tell me there are more hopeless nerds out there... anyone?

[@nickmattio3397]

Wrong Nightcrawler says himself that he can only teleport to places he's been to or can see with his eyes physically. So like a thumbprint placeholder if he's been to a certain favorite Udon Noodles place in Tokyo and he's in NYC he can travel there, it might be a lil more strenuous because of the distance/time spent in that brimstone dimension until he arrives in Tokyo but still way farther than 3km distance if he wants to

[@AtomicLimelight]

im sure you're thinking about the movie "jumper" and not Nightcrawler xD

[@AmirKhan-pq5ff]

Wrong, Jumper can go anywhere that he wishes by pictures even but Night Crawler said in one of the movies that he can't teleport to places he hasnt seen

[@guyoflife]

Movies aren't canon

[@maxfishslap7304]

Nick Mattio so then couldn't he teleport to the moon if it was at night?

[@ember-evergarden]

+Nick Mattio Wrong, he can teleport anywhere he'd just rather not get stuck in a wall and die.

[@whitherwhence]

The Flash can run faster thab the speed of light, and therefor travel back in time. You can't ignore that. You said yourself in one episode, "the Flash could punch you yesterday".

[@chloec4009]

The Flash could run into the past and get lunch, meet up with friends, fight crime, and be at the destination before Nightcrawler even started teleporting.

[@oskarasbirbalas9224]

Didn't Flash out run his own death at some point?

[@noelalexiusson2184]

He run to the end of time where the concept of death does not longer exist

[@tofolcano9639]

That makes no sense...

[@oskarasbirbalas9224]

it was in some comic

[@cryptic8630]

tofol cano He ran so far into the future that the concept of death no longer exists

[@robindaniel619]

tofol cano We're talking about comic book characters you idiot. Of course it doesn't make sense dumbass.

[@crozecamp]

Could 'Dragon Ball Capsules' work in real life, what would be the science behind it?

[@israelrobles9232]

Dream Chaser Maybe, the space between the atoms can be reduced, but the weight remains the same, meaning that the surface area of the object can be reduced but not it's weight , that's what I assume

[@omarjustinsmith2257]

Dream Chaser Ant man tech

[@israelrobles9232]

Omar Smith Pretty much, but the objects in the movie had a light weight, like the tank. I know it's a movie plot hole but still love that Movie

[@BrAnd0n_1103]

Flash- "My name is Barry Allen, and I am NOT the fastest man alive. I mean there's that one guy Zoom, then there's that other guy ReverseFlash, and Savitar⚡️

[@djcayo1]

Brandon Webb please don't refer to the tv show as if it's canon. It's a cool show but completely irrelevant in terms of his canon story. Read the new 52 comic series, that's the current canon version of flash

[@REZZExotic1V1ME]

The show is really nothing like the comics and they scale down his feats and speed so that he actually has struggles in the show. It is also basically when he just started

[@REZZExotic1V1ME]

R&B gaming actually no Wally can manipulate the speed force more and is the fastest speed on average but Bart Allen has gone the fastest when he once absorbed all of the speed force and

[@Michael.032]

we're talking about the comics, not the tv show... there's still the reverse flash

[@tingispingis]

You all need to chill. No where in his comment does he imply that CW Flash is canon or to be used as a basis for any argument

[@XbLMattL117]

Doesn't Nightcrawler's teleportation work by first transfering him to an alternate dimension where space is similar but altered compared to our own, move to a location in that space then transfer back to our dimension? So wouldn't that significantly affect his travel time at greater distances?

[@bigben6564]

Because science more like Because Speedforce

[@cryotimber]

Best comment

[@Nerdist]

That's what all these comments are looking like, yeah. -- KH

[@andrewwestfall65]

Flash does have an extreme amount of fans that assume Flash can and will do anything if they say it hard enough

[@agentleman4610]

Andy Westfall Here's the thing, it's about how his powers could be used in different ways. He could easily kill pretty much any hero and villain he wanted to, he can be completely invulnerable, he could even disrupt major aspects of the planet if he so chose. Unbeatable though is still a far stretch for the Flash if you know what to do.

[@andrewwestfall65]

Chris Newman It depends on if you are using actual science or comic book science. With what he has shown to do, yes he is rather absurd. I have seen people say that things that have shown to beat him in current continuity wouldn't work because... One person even said that if you had a magic stick that killed him instantly and you got him to touch it then he would live by running into the speed force and outrunning the effects of an instantaneous item forever.

[@bryantkenyon2296]

since you had night crawler at his most powerful you have to get flash as his.....Read the flash the human race

[@teamcybr8375]

Bryant Kenyon but that wasn't his speed. He was siphoning kinetic energy from other sources.

[@bryantkenyon2296]

The Brennan thanks shout out huge fan super dope keep up and heumy so what would happen to walking dead zombies in winter in say like alpena or houghton michigan?

[@Dethas1991]

+The Brennan even without siphoning kinetic energy he can run milions's time's faster than light so :P

[@zelmmoriya1504]

flash can run at 10 time the speed of light easy. he used earths energy to move past trans velocity. wich isnt even close to light speed by a couple of houndreds of 0 soooo yeah flash wins

[@youaredisgusting9338]

+The Brennan Barry saved a city's populace from a nuclear explosion. He needs to run 9.4 million times faster than the speed of light in order to do that. In this video, Flash is underrated since it said he runs at the speed of light. Flash smokes Nightcrawler anytime.

[@skullychaine5429]

Can you tell how X-23 can grow with adamantium claws in her body and are her claws able to grow too? Logan is coming

[@madestmadhatter]

SkullyChaine I'm not up to date on x-23, are we basing this on the comics, or is this about the new Logan movie, and if so do you know she grew them that way or are you basing it on the commercials?

[@thatHARVguy]

Her claws were surgically removed, to apply the Adamantium lacing, and then restored. The recent "creepy" video for the Logan movie showed this. Unlike Logan, only X-23's claws are Adamantium, so she could continue to grow.

[@skullychaine5429]

thatHARVguy ok but her claws are gonna stay "small" they won't become bigger, Like wolverine

[@Sheol02]

She will grow, her claws won't. They'll remain the same size.

[@skullychaine5429]

Sheol_IK ok because if i don't make any mistake in the comics when she's older her claws are bigger that's why i asked it

[@dayylikenightyt5923]

Isn't the flash faster than instant teleportation?

[@patrickkilduff5272]

In the comics...yes...if we want to bring him into reality...No.

[@Jane-qh2yd]

well, he cant be faster than light

[@FellPanda]

@@Jane-qh2yd he is

[@Jane-qh2yd]

@@FellPanda Hes also delusional

[@alexanders2669]

Me Troll If you say “He can’t be faster than light” you’re literally taking away the point of comics being alternative realities.

[@paparaiden4876]

But flash beat the cosmic gamblers He ran faster than instintanios time to beat them from teleporting there first

[@guntherdeeful]

Raiden Tube they said they were using the regular light speed flash because of physics, so they aren't using anything related in the comics using comicbook logic. Otherwise flash would win with the boundless amount of unscientific powers the comics have granted him.

[@Nerdist]

Exactly. To answer this question at all, or at least say something interesting, you have to limit the Flash's powers, because he makes no sense. -- KH

[@Teth47]

Neither does Nightcrawler. He literally teleports... He can break causality with that ability, how is that any different than Flash going FTL?

[@MegaDragonmark]

lets put this in simple terms and question which breaks reality more a not really good explanation of a fast person moving faster then speed of light or someone that simply moves through something that is actually has a slight touch in reality aka wormholes.

[@leonforde4934]

ehhh, but still we low-key know the answer, flash wins but I guess that makes sense

[@777Mikos]

that's nicely put math problem. But if we'll consider physics (at least as much as we can regarding the topic). Flash, running at speed of light, will, as an observer at LS, not experience time whatsoever. Meaning, if 0.002 sec. point stands in "real time", for Barry there would be no time at all, even without crossing light speed/time barrier. However, for Kurt, teleportation, allegedly again, isn't FTL, but more a wormhole style, meaning his subjective time equals real time. Thus in Flashes subjective time, he is faster, no matter the distance.Even without crossing the realm of "reality", we still need to account for relativistic effects

[@Nerdist]

That's not how time dilation works. The Flash may personally experience no time, but time still flows around him -- it doesn't stand still while he moves. -- KH

[@777Mikos]

Nerdist True. That's why I specifically pointed out a Subjective time. In theory, no matter how slight the number is, Flash won't age for this 0.002 seconds, while Kurt will age 0.001 sec. For every 600 km. On a space scales, that would mean that Kurt will die of old age, while Flash won't have such problems

[@Nerdist]

Again, that's not how it works. If the Flash could run at LS, he would "stop time" *for himself*. Photons don't age, and neither would he. But *he would have to run at LS for the relative amount of time he wants to pass*. Yes, Kurt could die of old age and the Flash wouldn't, but the Flash would have to run at LS for 60 years or whatever to do that. -- KH

[@highlylucid7621]

He can beat him with ease. I won'y put much thought into this, but he can travel through time, thus hitting the finish line while eating pizza.

[@777Mikos]

+LuicD point of video is that we exclude time travel in sci-fi way. What I'm saying is, that while Kurt is faster on distance 300+ , he, unlike Flash, can't travel beyond ~100 Light years, because he will simply die from old age. For Flash, even if limited to LS and with no time travel, it will be a instant, biologically he won't age at all. But what KH says, is that real time will still flow, so if travelling 100 LS would take 100 years (roughly), starting now, Kurt will be dead on route, but Flash will arrive in year 2117. Overall, it's a bit of hare & tortoise dilemma. Kurt might be faster in certain conditions, but he won't make it to the finish line

[@SuperNima]

Barry Allen has won a race over a teleorting alien in comics, they raced from a spaceship to earth, and the alien said he teleport instently Sorry for my misspelling

[@Bold472]

SuperNima - Norsk Gaming he had help from the people on earth

[@SuperNima]

But they just ran

[@Bold472]

by absorbing their speed(One of his abilities)

[@jakedove1324]

also it wasnt barry allen it was Wally west

[@pablosegura4375]

Darrian Love that's fine it's his thing

[@goombie8962]

I only just realised he had to write backwards after watching like 30 episodes over a couple months. His handwriting was so neat I didn’t even think about it.

[@GroddFrokensteen]

Sorry Flash wins Wally has beaten a teleporter before.

[@DefactoOverlord]

Not with his own speed, he stole kinetic energy to boost himself so Flash: The Human Race storyline can't be used to prove anything.

[@SkyGuyChris]

DefactoOverlord while that may be true, the Wally west flash has also time traveled before so really he just has to time travel to before he wins the race and get there first. The flash is faster than instant teleportation. No question.

[@TheLegless101]

All the Flash's can time travel. However, that's because the Speedforce opens up portals into the past/future which they travel through in order to get there.

[@dasmooth96]

well Barry made a bet with these cosmic gamblers that he can travel back to earth before they can teleport and won

[@jaydenherrera4177]

Grodd Frokensteen yeah I remember that because he siphoned all the kinetic energy from ppl on earth running or something right

[@connorkearns6111]

in the comics the flash ran faster then the speed of instant tho. he ran again the cosmic gambaler witch can teleport. he beat him back to earth and he can run faster then the speed of light do to the fact that he has a frictionless suit. according to all cannon the flash is always going to be faster. trying to apply real life to the impossible doesn't work and comes out with wrong conclusions. he did not take any of the flashes cannon into this episode.

[@ahmedmonime]

Connor Kearns it wasn't his own speed, it required everyone on earth to run as fast as the can

[@daleseantatum2455]

Mohamed Ahmed even so the flash can move several billions time the the speed of light without their help

[@Who_Does]

Flash is SPEED FORCE. Not just someone tapping into speedforce. He IS speed. Distance doesn't matter to Flash. Plus, someone who can travel back in time by just running is surely faster than the speed of light. Since time couldn't even catch up.

[@cezgamer]

god damnit i hate everyone saying he can run faster then an instant teleport. At that point you are just making shit up, because if he could run faster the teleport, its not a fucking instant teleport is it? The definition is something happening immediately. He cannot run faster then that because the moment there is a delay, it can no longer be defined as instant. I love the flash but just because your a fanboy doesn't mean you pick and chose what words mean.

[@Who_Does]

say that to the writers

[@igotalife787]

The imaginary axis determined the flashes top speed using comics and math... to this I refer you to "how fast is the flash" nerdist

[@ROCKY-bx1rq]

Kevin Prasad the imaginary axis is awesome! !! frankly speaking i like that channel more than this

[@r2rx2fer]

That one is a better channel.

[@igotalife787]

then why are you on this channel... go watch and enjoy the imaginary axis... in the mean time i will watch and enjoy both

[@vincentxu8217]

Applying math doesn't mean "science". These two vidoes are different from the basic. Because Science is using real life physics as precondition (or at least what we have established at current stage), while the Imaginary Axis does not. And what we have estabilished now is, nothing can travel faster than light. So despite there is math applied in calculating how fast Flash can run, it is meaningless in physics, because math is but a tool in physics not the other way around.

[@igotalife787]

True... firstly i think you forget that superhero stories are fiction... so that means the writer of the story makes up the world and the inner workings of that world... which means that they make up the laws of physics also... or they can say that the classical laws of physics apply... but that a plot device (i.e. the speed force in this case) allows the hero to break the classical laws of physics... secondly... the guy from imaginary axis is actually using mathematics and the story to figure out certain things within the subject... whatever the subject is... in this case since he is using comics... and what the writer said... he can say that the flash can travel at speeds of trans-time when he wants to... and the speed force allows the flash to do this without breaking the classical laws of physics using the speed force... although there are instances where he uses the speed force to break the classical laws of physics... again plot device... thirdly... although you are correct that nothing can travel faster than light... we still know very little about the universe right now... for many years we used to say that nothing can break the speed of sound... nowadays we have broken that barrier so many times its not even funny... so even though Einstein's laws of physics says that nothing travels faster than the speed of light... what i think you forget is that many of the things that he said was a guess... many of the things that he said were only confirmed after he died... many of the scientist today are constrained within the theory of relativity that they do not think outside the box... fourthly... what kyle doesn't take into account is nightcrawlers actual speed... which cannot be extrapolated because it is said that nightcrawler really teleports to hell... then teleports to any place he thinks of within a certain radius... since we do not really know the distance between earth and hell... and the actual time it takes for him to teleport... one cannot truly extrapolate his speed

[@Joanyan]

If you run a 100m dash against a 747 then you'll win running

[@ShinyNumber1]

I guess we all just forget the fact that flash went faster than a plank instant against the teleporting gods.

[@LetsBringPeace]

did you not watch the video? he assumed he ran at light speed because " Science" or did you miss that?

[@ShinyNumber1]

Alex Di there are things that go faster than light you moron

[@blackshard641]

Hahahahahahah... Oh, shiny.

[@oursaviourdearleaderjimpic4225]

ShinyNumber1 and flash can go back in time so he could be there the second the race starts

[@monowhite7989]

ShinyNumber1 well timetravelling takes time.

[@cengizbalm2466]

flash ran past instant teleportation across a GALAXY

[@NFITC1]

I believe it was nearly the length of the universe.

[@Nerdist]

Damn I better get my act together. -- KH

[@cengizbalm2466]

+NFITC1 i don't know. its been more than a year since i saw it

[@Hhhh22222-w]

Cengiz KAan BALIM That doesn't make sense... then it wouldn't be instant teleportation... but can be run faster than atomic reactions?

[@cengizbalm2466]

+Hara Suparyanto i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/specosmicsteal8.jpg

[@pocholo9790]

didn't flash run from the edge of the universe to earth in under a planck second?

[@ChrisHemsworthIndia]

pocholo how did you measure?

[@pocholo9790]

+Moumita Srimany its on a dc comic book called Flash the human race

[@Liger123100]

pocholo Yea and he beat Instant teleportation.

[@LobsterDeity]

yes, the is the first episode where i disagree with because science. They completely ignored flash comics but not nightcrawler comics

[@ChrisHemsworthIndia]

anybody please tell me which kind of machinery you have to measure this?

[@ericlaw1993]

Probably The Flash who beat instant teleport did it like this: We plot a graph where the y-axis represents the time while the x-axis represents the distance/displacement. Since the flash could stop time or even travel backwards in time, so when the flash races against whoever that has instant teleportation, he travels in such a way that he zigzags along the y-axis (time) between any positive-negative value while traveling rightwards on the x-axis (displacement), thus allowing him to reach wherever he needs to reach at any point of time, like t=0 or even t=-1. If it's possible then he'd be equally fast as instant teleport or faster (if you consider being at the goal before the other as faster)

[@mystuff8602]

You're forgetting relativistic effects and time-dilation. Flash still wins. Always. He outran the concept of death, for crying out loud.

[@Nerdist]

That's not how relativity works. Time slows down for him, not for other people. If a space ship traveled near light speed towards Alpha Centauri, we back on Earth wouldn't be standing still. -- KH

[@jondw]

is this when he was the god of death or a different time?

[@mystuff8602]

jon dw he seemingly died during Crisis on Infinite Earths and 23 years later they revealed, he spent this time outrunning death so far into the future that death stopped being a concept. pretty impressive.

[@justinmcdonald7581]

I would like to think that is incredible, but the writers really needed a way to bring him back. It's not that the Flash is impressive in that scenario but that Death must be limited to a human ideal such as concept and speed. That is the same logic as the movie Field of Dreams "if you build it they will come". I saw a program one day were a man said he did not believe in electricity ( basically the concept of electrical conductivity); while working with wires to restore power he did it with out safety equipment, well he was shocked, and thrown several feet because electricity does not become limited to his concept of it.

[@moxar2220]

Cos running faster than things is the Flash's thing... I mean seriously it'd just kill the point of the Flash if someone/something moved faster than him in his own comic/universe. Writers/creators do it all the time with things like this where the obstacle has to be bigger than the thing before and so they cause their character to be backed into a corner and end up devising some way the character overcomes the obstacle no matter how bs or such the reasoning simply because that character has to survive/comeback/win. Outrunning death/concept of death has got to be the worst thing I've ever heard. Everything that is alive must inevitably die and if the Flash is alive then he too must die. There are no if's, and's or but's.

[@alf3975]

Actually the flash has already beat teleportation

[@dimitrismantelos9646]

not just teleportation... instant teleportation across the universe ;)

[@WadcaWymiaru]

Flash beat only teleporter machine activation process and power-activation process. NEVER beat teleportation itself which ALWAYS have 0 time. NOTHING is smaller that zero...

[@dimitrismantelos9646]

Władca Wymiaru actually he did... he run so fast that he broke the rules... if you go and watch the video how fast is the flash the guy there explains it with details :D

[@TheCuteCriminal]

flash is basically omnipotent he don't use his powers at full coz he can literally destroy the earth while doing so and then there's speed force which tries to suck him down everytime he goes faster then normal

[@dimitrismantelos9646]

Bharat Singh​ i know... But im saying he did beat the intant teleportation, he used all the kinetic energy in the universe in order to do it... But he did it

[@lil_drummaboi_429]

Flash was able to beat instantaneous teleportation from the edge of the universe to earth so flash is faster not being a butthurt fan-boy just stating facts from a comic book

[@Nerdist]

Alright, now take the next step: how? That's all I did, just with different assumptions. -- KH

[@victormutta1115]

By siphoning kinetic energy from everyone on Earth running as fast as they could and another planet full of speedsters doing the same, if I remember correctly. That wasn't under his own ability. That said, Flash is still ridiculously fast.

[@DTejeiro1]

Yeah, but you put an artificial limit on Flash but not on Nightcrawler so it kinda skews the results towards Nightcrawler. If flash could run at the speed he runs in the comics then he would have beat Nightcrawler every time.

[@sandreid87]

"facts from a comic book" lmao

[@CustomWhoSonics]

btw, congratz on the whole myth busters thing.

[@Kangstor]

Correct me if i am wrong but Nightcrawler teleports as by jumping to another dimension traveling there than re jumping to our dimension right? in other words he does not actually teleports just dimension shifts so it is just debatable how much difference there is between time lag between two dimensions than again flash can travel in time itself arriving somewhere before he left he even uses time clones in some comics and in animated media to show that.

[@luistanael-mtbtrailrides7191]

What if he time traveled to the exact time before nightcrawler reach the finish line?

[@ultrareverse]

Alizandro Luis S. Tanael thats a different questions

[@chugginmyestus5024]

This isn't Vs the flash, this video is nightcrawler Vs light. This dude has no idea how fast the flash is.

[@lifelesshawk5725]

Jordan Aaron Smith If he did flashes true speed, then the video would be less than a minute long. Wally ran from across the universe to earth faster than instantaneous travel.

[@Vertutame]

no,that will make someone said "stop ruining the world,flash,how many time you destroyed earth until you learn that traveling through time is bad idea" Remember when he went back and save his mother? world ended,remember the time when he went and warn batman? Martha happened and rotten tometo are everywhere and make DC rotten.

[@bigbowss9817]

Thats exactly what happened in the Human Race, what everyone is referencing saying Flash was faster than instantaneous travel (which makes no sense as a sentence, he beat instant travel, he didnt go faster)...

[@llQuietyoull]

flash can beat him with 3% of the speed force LOL

[@AtomicLimelight]

bit of a stretch, but still acceptable xp

[@MrSpannners]

Javaughn Henry he could also travel back in time and finish the race before he started it

[@samisabbah2461]

Javaughn Henry I know

[@XVenoMXVenoM]

MrSpanners no he can't if he did that they time wraiths will track him down until he is dead or he can just beat them (extremely hard)

[@hmmm.324]

XVenoM actually since he has the power of an entity faster than anything, he can rather, beat the time wraiths easily. Also, the time wraiths only go after those who abuses the power of the speedforce and takes it for granted. So technically, the flash is not gonna get destroyed by it and also, he once trans-time which ment he moved faster than how the universe was created, and the universe was created in a "Plank Instant", meaning a 'Speed' that takes NO SECONDS at all, and just imagine The Flash moving faster than that. NOTHING can beat flash's strength and speed. Well if u wanna know why flash's strength is unbeatable (except he cant beat cosmic entities or entities who are paradoxical, meaning entities who you cant touch or feel magically,physically, or chemically or anything except cosmic power.), search it up on youtube.

[@hordenallimaniafan]

But does it realy count becouse of nightcrawler doesn't move on earth at this time becouse of he is moving though an other Dimension?

[@joshmilligan8980]

hordenallimaniafan favourite comment ever 😂

[@hordenallimaniafan]

josh milligan why?

[@madestmadhatter]

hordenallimaniafan the formula for speed is just distance over time, so I mean yeah technically it does, however he ignores a lot of comic lore to fit it into his scientific understanding so it's also blatantly wrong on the face of it.

[@hordenallimaniafan]

That is right madestmadhatter, but basicly is Nightcrawler only moving 10-20 meters, becouse of his moving through an other dimension and this realy fast, so fast that he can't see baslicly that he is moving through an other dimension he only appears on an other spot

[@Nerdist]

I think so. If you measure where he started and where he ended up, and over what time, it's technically a speed (not a velocity though). Like I said, it's a wormhole loophole. -- KH

about the post-credits: In Superfriends I once saw Superman catch a falling object (it was a gallon of nitroglicerin) going down at freefall speed underneath it and then slowing down subtly till he reaches the ground at 0 speed. It looked awesome when I was a child, but he wouldn't have enough space to do that.

I mean he could possibly save a falling person... if it was falling from an airplane. Not from a building.

[@theemperork5700]

he cleared an island full of people in 1 atto second to save them from a bomb

[@Nerdist]

I calculated this once too. Stupid fast. And those people would be dead. -- KH

[@JD-ee4df]

Speedforce :P

[@chowderstevens9375]

Nerdist ha that's great!

[@stripperbaby2599]

Nerdist but don't they have the speed force protecting them?

[@Zero-me7ko]

I want to say, "Well the Speed Force grants any speedster like the Flash a 'Speed Force Aura' that compensates for things like friction and stopping his bones and organs from being crushed at high speeds. It's not from a side story or anything and is considered canon. The aura also protects the person/people the Flash grabs and moves from the same things." Jay Dhiru's comment explains the same thing, but condenses that whole quote into 2 words and an emoticon. However, I do agree that those people would die if the Flash were to move at such arbitrarily fast speeds within a time span such as an attosecond. If he had moved slower, the people might not have their bodies ripped in half, but then he wouldn't have saved everyone. I don't know how many people he saved or how much time he had before the bomb detonated, so it's only a conjecture.

[@shadowbrad1369]

the flash has travelled across the galaxy, instantaneously, in a race against the Cosmic gamblers, who have galactic teleportation in Flash Vol 2 #138 and he won, so flash is the fastest no matter the distance

[@candyh1654]

That was kinda cheating though because he had the speed force of everyone in the world siphoning into him.

[@blackout6411]

*CRIMINALSNEAK* I regret to inform you but the reason we don't have any examples for FTL speed is simply because it either requires infinite energy or no mass to achieve. The flash can ignore this standard simply because of the speed force. If anything with mass HERE IN THE REAL WORLD were to move at 99.9 percent of light speed the atoms wouldn't be able to get out of the way in time and it would be like setting off a string of nuclear bombs every time.

[@iliketrains263]

Blackout except cern has a particle accelerator that achieved speed of light and no such observations where made....

[@blackout6411]

Pardon me, this next bit will be a bit of a text wall. Particle accelerators do not have anything other than the particles they are accelerating at light speed in them. No gases, liquids, or solids. NOT EVEN DUST. The only thing they contain is the protons or electrons so you haven't proven anything with your response but what they did observe is while accelerating these particles in a controlled environment it generated heat and energy. In 2010 at the University of Nottingham, several academic experts admitted that they had little idea what would happen if one were to stick a hand inside the proton beam at the LHC. On July 13, 1978, a Soviet scientist named Anatoli Bugorski stuck his head in a particle accelerator. On that fateful day, Bugorski was checking malfunctioning equipment on the U-70 synchrotron, the largest particle accelerator in the Soviet Union, when a safety mechanism failed and a beam of protons travelling at near the speed of light passed straight through his head. In proton therapy, a cancer treatment that uses proton beams to destroy tumors was pioneered before Bugorski’s accident, the energy of these beams is generally not above 250 million electron volts. He received a dose of 304 times that much with 76 billion electron volts. It did remarkable damage to his face and that was with just a super thin beam of protons. BUT I'll add that we are not talking about electrons or protons moving at near the speed of light, we are talking about materials or people with mass moving through the environment around them. Flash can do this because the speed force would have to accelerate the air around him just enough so as to not have him cause nuclear fusion. The channel Vsauce3 has a video explaining this in a video about what would happen if you were punched by Superman.

[@DIA-gi9qh]

True, but Night crawler used a last ditch effort that almost killed him.

[@marsbro3302]

But Flash is way faster than the speed of light?

[@Nerdist]

I know it's been established, but going FTL is even less likely to me than traveling through sulfurous Hell dimensions. -- KH

[@MrKingstar007]

No, he runs close to the speed of light. The only time he is known to break the light barrier is when he travels through time/parallel universes.

[@marsbro3302]

Nerdist Flash's Speedforce gives him the ability to ignore such things as E=MC²,he beated instantaneous travel in a storyline. (BTW. I'm honored you replied.Greetings from Germany.)

[@Vynjira-chan]

Okay, so if we're ignoring the Magic of the Speed Force, you should do a video about at what % speed of light, Black Hole Barry (just a nickname I made up for this conversation) would have to be traveling before his mass exceeded that of a Black Hole. Also tangent on the various speeds he would destroy the Earth, or just cause severe damage, another tangent on the Friction burning up the Atmosphere.. etc.. I mean you could go on for awhile about how dangerous he actually is.

[@marsbro3302]

Vynjira The speedforce is everything that makes it even possible, just watch Imaginary Axis' video about flash.I know he would hummiliate everything and would completely destroy earth without speedforce.

[@hero120]

Now I'm curious on where NIghtcrawler goes in than time between teleportation.

[@etiennemadore5899]

Flash once beat insta-teleportation

[@ahmedmonime]

Étienne Madore it wasn't his own speed, it required everyone on earth to run as fast as the can

[@tquatMassEffect]

flash is faster than teleportation #varientcomics

[@kristinadayter1426]

#Comicstorian

[@gabeevans6026]

I think it determines which flash you were using if it was Barry Allen than I can see how night crawler is faster but if it was the Wally west flash (not kid flash) than I think Wally would definitely win

[@lolon1725]

Gabe Evans Depends on the assumptions you make on each character, and on the place of the race.

[@gabeevans6026]

You are Disgusting ok my bad I've just always heard that Wally is the fastest flash. Thank you for correcting me

[@lolon1725]

Gabe Evans He is if he acquires all the kinetic energy of the world though if he is on a universe without speedforce he is just a normal human. Barry Allen creates the speed force which will make him fast no matter what universe he is in. So if the race is in DC Universe Wally has a chance to beat Barry, if is in another universe Barry wins all the way.

[@Velocity_AU]

Actually Wally is technically still faster then Barry. Unlike Barry who has to try really hard to run into the speed force or back/forward in time, he even sometimes needs to use the cosmic treadmill, Wally can do it easy, Wally is said to be more intuned with the speedforce, unlike Barry who mostly generates it.

[@GeladeiraGameHouse]

Gabe Evans Because light is the fastest thing we humans know. Beyond lightspeed is an incognita. We don't know what happens further that point, so, because of physics and cauculations, we always assume that Flash moves at lightspeed. It's not like we always assume that Flash is not powerful, is just that because of physics, we can't simply know what would happen beyond lightspeed.

[@who7644]

It would mainly depend on what is the flash’s fastest since we are using the furthest distance night crawler can teleport

[@bigpurplepops]

the comics have flash able to move around 10x lightspeed

[@bigpurplepops]

Physics be damned

[@cryptic8630]

I better be a Mod Never stated, comics physics=/=real physics

[@bigpurplepops]

Even without physics, that's 6.895216e48 km per second. That would literally destroy the city, country, continent, planet, solar system, and potentially universe if something with mass went that fast.

[@cryptic8630]

Baskerville Except... guess what inhibits that from happening according to the comics?

[@bigpurplepops]

Jedi speed magic

[@antony185]

Flash can run faster than teleportation!

[@maxdrags3115]

Keyword: "can"...

[@beniw3580]

wait!!!! Wasn't there a comic where flash beat a race of instantaneous teleportaition? and did you not prove that flash runs faster than light in a previous episode?

[@Wix_Mitwirth]

As to Superman catching someone falling very fast, there are two canonical explanations why they would be okay. The first is the slight aura around his body that extends around things he touches, which is why his suits are bulletproof when he's wearing them and why Lois flies with him only holding her by one hand and why he can lift a plane by the nose or a building by one corner without their structures failing. The second is the uncontrolled tactile telekinesis theory, once he is touching them, things are okay if he wants them okay and smashed if he wants them smashed.

[@logansmith7517]

But the flash can time travel, so he would win any race.

[@seancollins4641]

Logan Smith nightcrawler can time travel,he literally opens a breach in Space when he jumps

[@cryptic8630]

Sean Collins He goes to the past/future several years apart?

[@LegitHawaiian95]

Kyle, The Flash has already outran instantaneous. In the comic Flash The Human Race, The Flash encounters these beings called the Cosmic Gamblers. At the ending of the story The Flash bets the Cosmic Gamblers that he can reach Earth before they can. The Cosmic Gamblers basically laugh at this telling The Flash that they can teleport and it would be impossible to outrun instantaneous. The Flash tells them that it should be easy for them then. Being the gamblers they are they accept. The Flash then tells everyone on Earth to start running and using his ability to syphon the speed of other objects he uses the speed of everyone on Earth to further his speed BEATING the Cosmic Gamblers. Now I'm not sure how nerds calculated this but apparently he would have to be moving at a minimum of 23,759,449,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 x The speed of light. Mind you he traveled across a vast distance (not too sure how far but they were in deep space). So ya, there really is no arguing who's faster because The Flash doesn't just go light speed, he goes way faster.

[@generalskywalker1995]

MK Exactly

[@Nerdist]

A) Then it's not instantaneous. B) I just estimated this because of everyone calling me out: the total kinetic energy if everyone on Earth ran at once would be just about the same amount of kinetic energy the orbiting ISS has. It wouldn't break a universe with speed. That kind of energy circles your head every 90 minutes. -- KH

[@LegitHawaiian95]

Nerdist oh and PS the comics say he just outran instantaneous. its some other people on the internet that came up with that number. not too sure how they came up with it and how it makes sense but thats what everyone says. so ya. idk just remember that its comics and logic and science dont fully come to play all the time. just know the flash is faster than instantaneous (somehow) lol.

[@DTejeiro1]

Well, the Justice League were part of the people giving their kinetic energy so that might throw your estimation off a bit.

[@chowderstevens9375]

MK how would he run in space? Your comments is stupid

[@javihop]

Flash once out ran teleportation across the universe

[@javihop]

But gaining everyone on earths kinetc energy

[@amorecredibleusername692]

Javier Hopman that's probably not discussed here because it's entirely physically impossible due to universal speed limit "c"

[@SoI_Badguy]

Lord Of the Edge Speedforce. The flash creates what is basically a warp bubble around him.

[@markmartin8400]

Jav Hop ya but if night crawler can only teleport 650,000 meters and at 300,000 he beats flash at light speed flash would just have to go over light speed and hes done that millions of times, hes ran much faster then 1000x the speed of light

[@michaelmyers2031]

Jav Hop I saw that vid to lol

[@dagonra]

Probably already mentioned but doesn't night crawler teleport through another dimension and the distance traveled in that dimension determines the distance teleported?

[@JonFitch10]

Wally west beat instant teleportation so...

[@adamfraser1338]

ROGER Sawyers by harnessing the power of all the people moving on the planet, which isn't happening in this case.

[@jetman24]

Tempus Dominus sure but that's against a far better teleporter than Night Crawler, it's about reaction time, the moment Kyle said Go! the attosecond kicks in then it's all over bruh, I don't think Night Crawler have that kind of reaction time.

[@xMckingwill]

ROGER Sawyers physics physics my guy, this comparison is limited to the speed of light

[@tdbc3377]

If the *Flash* is faster than *Quicksilver* and *Quicksilver* is faster than *Nightcrawler.* That might answer your answer...

[@zeusboltes8213]

Killer Mode28 flash is not faster than quiksilver

[@tdbc3377]

zeusboltes gaming I know but some people think he is... Quicksilver fan!!

[@AlexAmado95]

I've never gotten an answer for an answer before, thanks kind sir

[@zeusboltes8213]

Killer Mode28 yeah

[@sebastian9741]

yes Quicksilver is faster

[@cryotimber]

I know everyone else has mentioned the Human Race but I have to point out that it is literally the first youtube result for how fast is the flash, I really feel like Kyle just went with a basic knowledge of the Flash instead of doing any actual research

[@Nerdist]

By "basic" do you mean "most realistic"? I honestly don't care what Imaginary Axis or whoever says. Traveling faster than the speed of light isn't possible. Listing off the Flash's powers beyond that is effectively just nerd flash card trivia. To learn anything from these battles, which I think can be valuable to science communication, you need to have some rules and limitations. Or else it's pointless. -- KH

[@justindownes8819]

Nerdist Neutrinos travel faster than the speed of light and if you can't travel faster than light then just put flash at 99% of the speed of light.

[@Unkomfy]

Actually, neutrinos *cannot* travel faster than light. That's been debunked for a while, as the scientists who made this observation have since stated that their equipment malfunctioned.

[@kristinadayter1426]

Nerdist And a human like devil thing that can teleport is also impossible, so you are WRONG, JUST GIVE UP

[@brandonmyers1876]

Consulting comics is almost a waste of time as the writers can be very inconsistent with a person's capabilities making a detailed analysis impossible.

[@Painfully_Punny]

So as you approach the speed of light tinge slows down the flash could arrive at the finish line at any distance before or after the race ever started.

[@zamy4887]

The flash has moved at trans-time velocity

[@Nerdist]

But that's not a thing. See why I did what I did? -- KH

[@ShadlinTolly]

Nerdist But traveling at the speed of light with mass also isn't a thing. And neither is instant teleportation. So no, don't see why you did that.

[@cinco9788]

About Flash being faster than Quicksilver and Nightcrawler: The flash is faster than quicksilver. Flash in one scene has saved the whole population of korea in a nuclear bomb explosion within a second and that is calculated to be 13 billion times faster than light. The flash did break the sound,light, and even the time barrier. He is the time himself. He stated that when he travel a country to country he can see everything and everyone within just an attoseconds. He is time. Before quicksilver even move the flash had already circled around the globe. If we are talking about this movie based from X-Men and The Flash series. The flash is already faster than quicksilver in this season 4 than the quicksilver who saved the whole people from the mansion. The quicksilver there only got 100k mach but the flash on flashtime episode where his speed is calculated his speed is mach 850k. 99.99% as fast as light. Now this nightcrawler thing. Before its brain even think the flash has already got there even in what universe it is. The flash outran deaths and space itself and he is so fast that he is time. Before the ions and the brain cells of this nightcrawler even think or works the flash is the winner. And if Flash is faster than Quicksilver and Quicksilver is faster tha Nightcrawler. Then we already know the fastest. Also flash has beaten teleportations already. We all know who's the winner. *The Flash*

[@xiphos8219]

He was actually moving at 25 quintillion mph which is 13 *trillion* times the speed of light, not just billion. He also outran instant teleportation across the universe, not only winning, but did so with enough time to tune every radio on earth to frequency X as well as lap Superman, Jay Garrick, Max Mercury, Impulse, and Jesse Quick simply because he could. He was moving so fast even they couldn't see him, and in doing so actually transcended and elevated into the 4th dimension. And if it's Wally West, if for some reason he isn't fast enough he can absorb kinetic energy to boost his speed. Also he outran the Black Flash to the end of the universe where even death ceased to exist as a concept because there was no life in order to die, and he saw our universe implode, the friction of which caused a massive explosion kick starting the next universe. The Flash isn't just fast, he *is* speed

[@cheekycheeto4703]

Cincó but...but.. in an attosecond light travels from one end of a molecule to another! How can he even recieve the light emitted by his surroundings?

[@yulien7571]

Cheeky Cheeto Flash is Daredevil! Wait... It‘s the same with sound...

[@Mystic-4252]

But still not as fast as the Heart of Gold from Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy

[@CarlosRodriguez-fx6go]

This comment is just copy and paste from others. Lmao. But I do agree with most of these points

[@Buddahtai]

What about the Flash Vs Azazel or Hayden Christensen from Jumper

[@Buddahtai]

Or The Flash Vs Goku instant transmission

[@notxon300]

The Flash (assuming he's running at light speed) vs Goku's (assuming you mean the anime, not the manga) instant transmission would be a tie. Goku's instant transmission and the flash are both moving at the speed of light, in hayden's case it'd be about the same as night crawler, but if you have flash at his top speed, he wins both races with Goku and Hayden considering he can MOVE FASTER than instantaneous movement because physics doesn't exist.

[@aevmm]

Shadow Space Actually, it seems that Goku can teleport faster than light? (Im not sure) He teleported to the realm of the dead. And the map of the universe and the realm seems to have a gap larger than the universe itself. (Might he false) and also Bulma with her spaceship would be faster from the DB frieza saga since she instantly teleported from Earth to Jupiter just for a test drive

[@noahkleukers4503]

Raymond Frentz flash win🤓🤓🤓🤓

[@MrSemaj46]

When Supes fought Darkseid he said it was tiring to move through a world where everything was toilet paper and he always had to be so careful not to break something or somebody so maybe all the years of being super gentle helped him to learn not to hurt people when he saved them. And I think he used to have the ability to extend a protective field like in All-Star Superman.

[@brucecwalinski7086]

650 there 650 back 3 2 1 nightcrawler dies and never finishes

[@deoje2994]

But.... didn't the flash beat gods who could teleport instantaneously in a race across the universe once?

[@dawalkindict]

Money

[@Velocity_AU]

The Flash could only do that if everyone on the Earth ran, and sometimes speed cant slove anything, Barry and every other speedster must limit themselves sometimes, Run too fast all the time and poof, your gone.

[@512TheWolf512]

The flash runs at the speed of lazy writing

[@ViewingMyMind]

bdum tss

[@blankblank1284]

More like different writers, thus different interpretations. Though even by kne writer his speed is inconsistent.

[@contessa4490]

Yeah, speed force is trash, fans depends on the speed force argument when the flash is being compared to there like saitama, goku, superman, and quicksilver.

[@MetalReign999]

You know who has the most lazy writing is superman. Has all the powers and still gets owned by a green rock 😂

[@Auron1Roxas2]

Not lazy writing dumbass, great writing.

[@Re5pawning]

If I remember correctly Nightcrawler doesn't actually teleport the way this assumes as it has been stated he "teleports" to a different demension where things are closer together (similar to Warhammer 40k's WARP) and then "teleports" back. So he is still running to get where he is going.

[@Beyonder1987]

Speed Force is infinitely faster than the speed of light. Its the fastest thing in existence in all multiverse. With Speed force. The Flash can go back in time and go forward in time. He can travel to multiverse. The Flash is just waaay faster than night crawler because he has the speed force.

[@kimjongsupporter7539]

Why even try and use physics to explain characters like the Flash when they break every law of physics?

[@pentiumftw2054]

Exactly!

[@anakinskywalker5920]

because science

[@zeroexceed4265]

because its fun. DF.

[@brennanhilsher9276]

Because the speed force allows him to break the laws of physics. If they were applying to him, he would fuse with the atoms in the air and essentially be unstable due to fission and explode but then the speedforce has no out valve to release its energy and it would build up and mess with the timestream. So it allows him to survive so that he can utilize its energy and relieve the cosmic build up

[@TheV-Man]

They don't break the laws of physics, they bend 'em.

[@rng_lord1276]

Have you considered the Flash isn't actually running that fast but is actually "warping" to allow himself to move faster? Also, since the Flash is faster than time technically he'd always be faster.

[@sprinklesfromthehood8579]

RNG_ Lord not really of u think about it

[@eggs8000]

RNG_ Lord That’s Zoom.

[@sergiomolina4570]

RNG_ Lord No he actually does run at those speeds, the whole warping space around him thing is an entirely different ability, but one that is present in the DC universe, namely one of the iterations of Zoom, which is what allows him to keep up with the flash (to some extent), but the flash himself does actually run that fast