Is the Ford Bronco Raptor Worth the Extra $$$ Over a Badlands? We Hit Water & Rocks to Find Out!

[@cosmokramer3973]

Great review. I didn’t think this was a good idea to brand another vehicle with the Raptor label but after seeing this beast in several reviews from desert running and trail running, this thing is legit. Bravo to Ford for making this beast but I do wish it had an optional 5.0. Oh well, nothing is perfect but this is as close as it gets in my book! Keep it up TK!

[@DutchiezRNG]

With over 400hp stock, more displacement doesn't seem necessary.

[@cosmokramer3973]

@@DutchiezRNG it’s not about HP, it’s about reliability. Turbo charged engines have more components that can go wrong. Simple is better in most cases. Although Ford is great at building a small turbocharged engine, it would make sense to offer a naturally aspirated engine to the lineup.

[@TheBeatenPaths]

@@cosmokramer3973 But the kids love their turbos lol.

[@T4nkcommander]

@@cosmokramer3973 This isn't the 90s anymore. Turbo engines are as reliable as NA engines nowadays.

[@cosmokramer3973]

@@T4nkcommander the engine might be but the extra components and parts that are add ones to make the power aren’t. I had an ecoboost and the only problems I had was the extras. Engine was great and loved the truck but what is wrong with wanting to have the option? I don’t get why this is a thing to want to have a basic option? This isn’t the 60’s either but guess what they offer? Steel wheels and the bronco itself that looks real similar to the old school original. Lol offering a NA isn’t a bad thing.

[@toyota420xp]

The rapter also has some stronger parts which might wouldn't show up in a test but over the life of the vehicle might make the rig more durable

[@NorthBoundExpeditions]

Excellent review! Nailed it! Glad to see our footage from Martin Head Beach in this! 🙌🏼

[@rinaldocatria4386]

The wider wheel track and taller 37’s will in fact crush some brush before it gets to the doors and sides which as I said earlier are the same on the Raptor as ALL other Bronco models from the base on up.

[@mattneil6716]

I’m currently driving a 2021 gen 3 f150 37 package Raptor. I have put 20,000 km on it so far. I often consider selling it because of the crazy prices people offer me. Every time I’m about to get in it I get a sense of excitement and that’s what justifies the price

[@038Landry]

Was a pleasure to meet you guys and guide you thru those trails! Amazing review, good real life information and real canadian life scenario. Great work guys 🔥🔥

[@TheBeatenPaths]

I live in NB. Where exactly was it?

[@038Landry]

@@TheBeatenPaths Cape Spencer, Bethel and Minister Island.

[@RickheadWashington]

One thing to note for sure is the resale of the raptor. It will hold value better and be easiest to sell used.

[@02hreblue30]

Bingo

[@thedefinitive6296]

To be honest, I really like the Everglades trim. You get a bunch of useful off-road goodies including a factory installed winch, snorkel and a roof rack. Sure it's got the 2.3L, but the power is respectable and I have no intentions of drag racing a Bronco. Plus both the V6 options sound horrible! My main issue with the Raptor is just how wide it is. I have no desire to go 60mph off-road so the width is a huge waste for me. It's an amazing vehicle, but I'd rather take the extra money and put it into turning an Everglades into an overlander.

[@TheJoshuaborden]

So glad to see a testing in the bush on the east coast of Canada. 👍

[@jphunkpunk792]

I love it that you guys do trails like that up there. I'm in SW Missouri, and that's the kind of trails we have. No deserts lol. The Raptor is badass, but I'd personally go with the Badlands. I love your guys' videos.

[@Coloradohiker658]

Great review. Always enjoy them, you guys are always a having a blast.

[@foxxygearreviews7754]

I’ve been all over Canada - New Brunswick is definitely my favourite province. Lots to do for outdoor enthusiasts.

[@TruckKing]

Couldn't agree more!

[@weekendwarrior8179]

Due to mark ups, that is with the standard model costs

[@T4nkcommander]

I drove my dad's 89 Bronco II in high school, and special-ordered my 2017 Gen 2 Raptor back in 2016 (obviously still driving it). My wife enjoyed her 2016 JKUR while she had it, but it was not conducive to our family needs (and was kinda crap tbh). All that to say, eventually I suspect we'll pick this thing up for her down the road - provided we can get one without the driver-facing spy camera, that is.

[@shane400]

Electrical tape for the camera

[@toddhunter3725]

The beach shot sure looked like Martin Head, where in NB was the trail? Note to everyone on channel, NB has fantastic snowmobile and ATV trails!

[@zaphods2ndhead193]

I think the rest of the changes in the suspension and steering are pretty massive. To forgo possible problems I have already upgraded my tie-rods to aftermarket. I have also done upgrades to my steering box. Those are two massive weak points on the normal broncos and I have yet to hear from anyone that has installed the "heavy duty" steering box from Ford. The Raptor has all that and more stock. I think to take a Badlands and upgrade everything you can to Raptor level would take quite a chunk of change.

[@RickheadWashington]

That trail turn assist looks awesome. Great idea by Ford there.

[@erichoff7511]

Great test drive. Well put.. that Bronco Raptor is insane.

[@daviddill5227]

Great content as usual guys. Thorough review with good info talked about.

[@fritty9927]

I’m no genius but if this track is Fords then I imagine it was set up to allow the regular Bronco to just get over obstacles with maybe a little scrape. So with extra clearance gained on the Raptor you’d never touch a thing.

[@TheBeatenPaths]

Welcome to New Brunswick, I'm a resident!!! I wish I had have known you were going to be here!

[@jesseriley7681]

I really like the look 👀 and color of the bronco Everglades over the rest of them

[@RidersInBlack]

I find myself sighing at the fact that I would have to agree, that $100,000 for a vehicle of that capability now seems the price of admission. I don't think it's right, but the world is ever changing.

[@02hreblue30]

it also has long term collector value built in.

[@zaphods2ndhead193]

FYI. The ten extra inches of width is NOT the body of the truck. It is the tires, wheels and fender flares. The body on the Badlands and the Raptor are exactly the same width. So the extra scraping is NOT the painted surfaces. Still, it is worth getting PPF if you want to avoid the "pinstripes" that off road vehicles normally get.

[@02hreblue30]

or just clear film the flares and or the sides and be done with it.

[@zaphods2ndhead193]

2 inches of tire equates to 1 inch lift on everything, including the pumpkin, just by the increase in tire size. 1 extra inch of axel clearance is nice.

[@nlken7175]

100K. Pricing is gone crazy.

[@KN-jw7ts]

LOVE IT!!! Let the haters hate.

[@noelebbert9322]

You guys are naturals at your professions. Keep up the good work been following since the tfl days.

[@denisleblanc4506]

Just curious about where in NB those trails were. Being from NB I wasn't surprised the Raptor was a tight fit. For those of you that can afford it, that Bronco Raptor is an amazing vehicle. I wonder how its ride felt at higher speed on dirt roads compared to the Badlands?

[@hyyyyydro]

I also want to know where those trails are

[@rodjbosch]

Most people don't buy these for their off road ability.....most rarely see dirt. It's about "look what I have" I could care less about other people.....it's their money. You can literally say this about everything.....not what you need,it's about what you want. If you want it....and can afford it why not.

[@KN-jw7ts]

Perfectly said. Just like sports cars/super cars…..very few ppl actually use them to their ability or take them to track days. But I still understand the desire of wanting to own them.

[@mikefoehr235]

I own a pickup because it is so practical. Tow my RV and get me to my camp. For me, a sports car or SUV is not practical at all.

[@jaswett]

“I could care less about other people.” I don’t think you’re saying what you think you’re saying.

[@getlosttoday4045]

Now the true test is the hydrolines with the left hook!

[@dwnsth3529]

So is the actual body of the Raptor that much wider, I know the axles/tires and flares are what really push it out. Did the raptor come out with any paint issues or major pin striping? I can see the axles and tires coming into play on tight trails that just don't fit but don't think the body much different than regular bronco

[@rinaldocatria4386]

All Bronco models(2 or 4 door) from the base model to the Raptor are exactly the same width at the doors. The Raptor does have slightly wider painted composite (vs steel on other models) fenders but that difference is about an inch on each side. The width of the wheels/tires is where the huge additional width comes from and the flares that Ford was required by law to add to cover. So all the talk of how much wider the Raptor is over the Badlands or Outerbanks or even base model making it susceptible to “door pin-striping” is just nonsense. In fact, when you factor in the brush trampling benefit of the wide tall tires with the brush defecting action of the rocker step rails, my money says the Raptor gets less paint scratches than Badlands or even a Wrangler for that matter. The parts exposed on the Braptor are the fender flares and they are black composite. Material made to handle that sort of abuse.

[@gregferris9378]

Where will the horse power wars end? I like power but at what cost?

[@rinaldocatria4386]

The doors aren’t any wider than regular or Wildtrack/Sasquatch Broncos. So the comment “pin-striping” of paint is uncalled for. composite fender flairs is where the width is.

[@katoblow100]

Love that 2 door

[@shifter8207]

You can see the fender flares! You and the entire country. They re huge 😂

[@mawage666]

I paid $28,500 for my 2022 Base model.

[@LacDole]

I miss Canadian thick bushes! 🤪

[@frankmartin1325]

🤣🤣🤣

[@foxxygearreviews7754]

The beaver pelt

[@chrismak4859]

The detail products are hilarious, some elbow grease, decent soap, and a mild pressure washer cleans any vehicle 😂😂😂

[@02hreblue30]

Just coat the underside with fluid film several times per year no problems

[@kevinvanlohuizen2709]

Think we will get a Raptor R variant like the truck version?

[@ryanhaines7682]

I own a 2022 Colorado z71 .. with duratrac tires . Can u do an off-road review of a regular z71 please please please please

[@211Gus]

I still would go with a Non SAS Badlands. I think it looks the best

[@ronpippin4893]

Not getting it: BRaptor is only six inches wider than Squatch and it is pretty much all plastic flare and tire. Mirrors are the same on both I think.

[@Glokens]

I really like the Bronco. Another big thing it has over the Wrangler that nobody really talks about is rear seat airbags. The Wrangler scores very poor on crash safety and I would never want my kids back there.

[@02hreblue30]

and Jeep cramped as heck with old interior

[@RR137G]

To wide where I off road brush and rocks would remove paint and fenders.

[@theotherbonjovi6259]

$70k USD? HA! The Ford Dealership near my house is selling Badlands Editions marked up to $70k....

[@mikeduncan7552]

i choose a new armada, built in japan, v8, offroader

[@kalebkukawski2820]

That thing can't do anything this does anywhere near the same level

[@mikeduncan7552]

@@kalebkukawski2820 you live in the middle of the wilderness 24/7? Real life, Armada wins, plus will last longer than ford.

[@dudehi3317]

Your doing stuff my stock four runner would do go threw some mud I mean mud go on some actual trails

[@privas8751]

Ahhh the V8 old heads coming through the comment section. This thing is a BEAST. Great Review 👍🏼

[@brians.1357]

That green machine looked like a bull frog 🐸 bouncing through the whoops

[@the_jarmel]

HAVE A GOOD DAY EVERYONE

[@CBWAR1]

It would appear that Ford is only sending out Raptors to places that will review them. Hopefully, in 2023, those who have placed an order will not have to wait until the last quarter or into 2024. Seeing the reviews and actually driving your own are two different things. Reviews give you hype, however Ford will give you reality.

[@rondail5675]

I have never been a Ford person but I really like the Maverick, F150, and Bronco. I don't like the Mustang-MachE.

[@rinaldocatria4386]

440 ft ls torque. Not 415 as you stated.

[@markcomisky7106]

Whens the new ranger coming out

[@02hreblue30]

bingo. same drivetrain and narrower. It will be awesome

[@markymarc136]

Welcome to New-Brunswick guys! In what part of the province were you in?

[@TruckKing]

St Andrews by the sea.

[@Theaddman]

Love the look

[@danramirez4290]

Does the Ford Bronco Raptor have air conditioning to the rear passengers?

[@TruckKing]

Only if the doors are off.

[@nrmedic2396]

its nice, but that price... Most that get bought will be pavement princesses, rather defeating the purpose. Surprised they took the Explorer ST motor versus a 3.5EB, or my preference, a 5.0L.

[@02hreblue30]

maybe they saving 3.5 for next gen, easy upgrade. V8 would be 150k and very unlikely to ever happen if offers zero significant advantages off or on road other than sound. None

[@KN-jw7ts]

Btw it’s 440 torque.

[@the_jarmel]

👏👏👏 GREAT JOB. .

[@sevengravities9951]

The raptor is amazing however the price difference doesnt justify the uograde condisering the wildtrack can 95% of the tracks with ease

[@arminderrattu5333]

If I could afford it I would buy it simple lol

[@RangerRickTV]

How many miles will the Broncos last without any major repair work?

[@Wrangler59]

200 give or take lol.

[@mikefoehr235]

Check yourself but Scotty Kilmer says engines are failing below 10 000 kilometres. I heard him say one failed with 1 000 kms on it. Doesn't surprise me. The failure is cracked valves or valve stems. Wait a few years before buying a Raptor...like maybe a decade.

[@KN-jw7ts]

You wait. Others will go right ahead…..It’s called a warranty. And secondly, can u name another Ford performance product w engines failing? Ever?

[@mikefoehr235]

@@KN-jw7ts FORD...FAILURE OF RESEARCH &DEVELOPMENT....that says it all.

[@mikeduncan7552]

@@KN-jw7ts engines are pretty basic stuff, if their engines have issues then i doubt the rest of the body components.

[@christianbolt5761]

For that kind of money I would by a Unimog

[@kalebkukawski2820]

Unimog ain't doing what this does lol

[@02hreblue30]

@@kalebkukawski2820 You have to be totally clueless to say that! Nothing could be more untrue, Unimogs are world class off roaders. Read up

[@02hreblue30]

You couldn't touch a modern unimog for this price. LOL

[@thebeddoctor4273]

You can add the 3.0 raptor engine to other models. Maybe not in Canada. It's called the big hoss package

[@Unc0mmonSense]

I don't think it is worth the premium given how slow it is. If it put up similar numbers as the 392 Jeep, I could justify the premium over the Badlands. I also think the Badlands actually looks better. The Raptor is kind of cartoonish looking. Each to their own....

[@theboston3386]

Except your engine could blow at 100 miles, 1000 miles or 10000 miles.

[@KN-jw7ts]

Wow. What a revelation. Although I think new cars have something that would ease those concerns, especially with something as cool and pricey as this thing is. What’s it called?! ……oh yeah! A warranty!!

[@The-fs5wn]

Ever heard of a warranty? Also, 47 instances of a dropped valve on an engine sold in literal millions of vehicles isn’t the slightest bit troubling. It was one bad batch of valves on an otherwise solid and reliable engine.

[@theboston3386]

Dumb, it's called resell value.

[@joemcgee2918]

I'll take a solid front axle and v8(392) all day.

[@KN-jw7ts]

They wouldn’t. Nor does any of the other reviewers/journalists that have ACTUALLY DRIVEN BOTH. They must be all stupid huh?

[@kalebkukawski2820]

Well that solid front axle isn't gaining you that much at this point, the difference in articulation isn't that much different, but the difference in performance high speed is drastic. I will give you that the V8 is cool but the braptor is better overall off road

[@johndoe-sf6hk]

Id rather buy an old jeep and make it an offroad monster and a truck and trailer to tow it all for the same price if not cheaper

[@RickheadWashington]

Can't find anything not to like about the Bronco? What about the price tag lol

[@02hreblue30]

its a collector unlike all these others

[@morningdrums]

I love seeing the rapter but I really don't want one. Way to much money, so wide on the trails

[@arkhsm]

The body itself is no wider than a standard Bronco, so therefore will not suffer from more body scratching !!

[@joemcgee2918]

That thing is way to much money to take down a trail like that. That is the thing with these, people are not wheeling that thing. Silly.

[@mikeduncan7552]

G wagon is better

[@briandoty438]

I would never be able to afford one. That being said, I still can't get past those plastic pool/trash can looking fender flares. Hideous!

[@mikeduncan7552]

yuuup

[@02hreblue30]

paint them to match and they would be good

[@doolittlegeorge]

That'll be $10 billion dollars in Canadian Loonies Move along

[@allenflud]

Comments for the algorithm

[@kc0lif]

i like supercharged v8.

[@02hreblue30]

too heavy with zero advantages off road

[@collinsimmons7156]

To wide for off road, ok for open trails.

[@cbruno12180]

100k!! Wtf!! It’s 77k in the states why so much of a price diff? Wow def not worth it he’ll no

[@The-fs5wn]

CAD vs USD. Conversion makes a little more sense.

[@rhphotocdn]

No Kidding, priced one out the other day, $10K Cheaper in the USA for the same vehicle once you do the dollar conversion (I went high too on the $$ conversion). Canada is being ripped off once again.

[@02hreblue30]

@@rhphotocdn TAX

[@bigslacker666]

Absolutely worth it. It's ugly, the parts look like a jigsaw puzzle of badly put togeher plastic. But still worth it. :D

[@atg1338]

Thick Bush🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mcnasty3303]

#nomufftootuff

[@shiftymcgee9359]

A Jeep or regular Bronco will preform just as well as a Bronco Raptor off road. You’ll save money to add aftermarket suspension if you want Raptor ride quality.

[@KN-jw7ts]

Yup, you can use the same logic with all of these stupid ppl buying Ferraris and lambos…..when you can buy a Honda and “go to the aftermarket” throw huge turbos on it and make it faster. 🙄

[@mikeduncan7552]

@@KN-jw7ts the raptor is not ferrari level

[@freeravenadventures6925]

Put a V8 in it and im sold.... #V8orBUST

[@02hreblue30]

no one cares

[@02hreblue30]

Its just too wide. Raptor Ranger will be the ticket with the same drivetrain. Bank on it

[@markcomisky7106]

Dawn dish soap cheaper

[@unlimitedj06]

💸💸💸💸💸💸💸

[@ajstar89]

The Bronco raptor is great, but its priced and being released wrong. I should be a easy to order like a badlands, and be seen as another trim, and the pricing should be cheaper. Right now its priced so close to a f-150 raptor, and the f-150 is a way better value IMO.

[@02hreblue30]

LOL. You can hardly buy a Raptor they sell every single one before it comes in! What world do you live in? Its a true collector

[@ajstar89]

@@02hreblue30 I have a raptor as well, they sit on the lots out here in socal with markups as well. Still priced better than a bronco raptor. People thought the same way you are with the gen 1 raptor.... 3 gens later its still not a collector car. This one won't be either.

[@mcwendel8066]

Yes the bronco with that killer engineering behind those AutoZone fenders and those engineered 37 inch tires lol Another excellent part of the engineering is the lack of back seat vents for heat and AC. I also like how you can put your whole hand underneath the soft top when it’s closed 🤣 The raptor is clearly better at high speed off-roading and I’m sure it’s more comfortable for most fat Americans. But the fit and finish isn’t great and it gets blown away on the street in a drag tace

[@bishop5537]

Dont care how off road capable it is, its not worth $100K. No reason that unit should cost that much, no reason at all, other than the manufacturers greed. Ill never buy one for two simple reasons. First the outrageous cost, and second, I dont fit in the damn thing. Im 6"3', 300 lbs. I have to shoe horn my ass into that thing, its too much effort to do. Im much happier in an F150 Tremor with a coyote, which will go anywhere that bronco can go.

[@MatthewBonacci3881]

I cringed hearing the bronco hitting all the brush.

[@mabelpup8502]

Stop buying these damn new cars!! We’re in a recession/high gas prices/high taxes.. if people keep buying these dang things with the way things are going they’ll never get any cheaper because they know impulse shoppers will always buy

[@mrt3206]

A badlands bronco fully loaded =55-60k A Raptor bronco will be over 100k You aren’t getting 50-60k in upgrades by buying a “raptor” BADGED Bronco 😅 You could spend half that and upgrade suspension, tires, put v8 in it and have plenty of money left over to do whatever else you want by just buying a regular bronco🤣

[@achilles5197]

No thanks, ill take my base 2 door sasquatch for 42k.

[@mikeduncan7552]

100K $ fuk that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its a ford. Depreciation will take it to 60 after 2 years

[@KN-jw7ts]

Oh really?! By your logic, I should be able to find a used f150 raptor for really cheap! Your clueless guy.

[@mikeduncan7552]

@@KN-jw7ts maybe, yet i have lots of savings

[@02hreblue30]

Dude how wrong could you be? Its a true collector just like the GT350R

[@paulm6481]

All that money for this trim and no V8. Pass. Get a regular Bronco.

[@KN-jw7ts]

Passing on something that’s not being offered to you? Lol. Being it’s sold out already. Furthermore, everyone that has actually DRIVEN it, including these guys can’t stop singing it’s praises, and beg to differ w u…..it’s leaps and bounds better than a regular bronco.

[@KN-jw7ts]

Did you not watch the video? When pops clearly says he’d take it over the 392 with the v8?

[@sotohc96]

Just say you have no money.

[@KN-jw7ts]

Lol

[@T4nkcommander]

The TTV6 in my Gen 2 Raptor outperforms my buddies supercharged Gen 1 V8 in every metric except sound.

[@ChrisParayno]

100G for this? No, especially knowing of ford's reputation for breaking down lol

[@2_Bike_is_Life]

I've owned over 8 modern Ford Mustangs, Fusions and Explorers and every single one was in the shop with significant tranny or other issues. At least Jeep has great leather bound trim. Ford has terrible plastic everywhere.

[@ScottsGEN-XAdventures]

All fluff.

[@KN-jw7ts]

Huh?! Just say u can’t afford it

[@ScottsGEN-XAdventures]

@@KN-jw7ts The video asked my opinion and I gave it Just because you don’t agree with it, you want to imply that I can’t afford it? You know nothing about me bro. I’m a fan of the Bronco and if I didn’t already own the most capable off road vehicle in the world, I’d be making payments on one. I just don’t think the Bronco Raptor offers enough over the standard Bronco to justify the premium price.

[@ModernCowboy78]

Complaining about how wide the raptor is getting old on every channel. the people who buy these DONT CARE.

[@2_Bike_is_Life]

Until they get asked where they got all their custom pin striping from 🤣

[@Wrangler59]

The Jeep Wrangler 392 has already been proven way better than the Ford Bronco Raptor. Until Ford puts a v8 in it I would stay clear from it.

[@mikefoehr235]

You know I think i agree. Ford is just terrible at times for bad quality

[@Wrangler59]

@frednass no they haven't lol. Every review I've seen when these 2 match-up is the Bronco Raptor wins in comfort and ride. Speed, torque, horsepower and anything off road the Wrangler 392 was superior.

[@KN-jw7ts]

Name one? Bc i really don’t know what your talking about. BUT I’ll go right ahead, starting w these guys! Lol. But you should start w the recent hagerty video. MOTORTREND, car&driver, the smoking tire, Ben hardy (he actually owns a 392) and says the raptor is the best off roader he has ever driven! Lol. Doug demero ALL chose this over the 392. Who am I missing?

[@KN-jw7ts]

Horsepower and torque is where u can stop. PLEASE cite ONE article or video that actually says the 392 is better off road?! Like are u just making stuff up? Or u really don’t read or watch anything that others do.

[@KN-jw7ts]

And lastly, you say speed?? Where? On road?! Bc you know….these things are “offroaders”. And speed wise, the raptor would SMOKE the 392 OFF-ROAD. And if u don’t know that, you really don’t understand these vehicles.