Is the Gaza Pier Mission Over? | Report from the Gaza Pier | Breakdown of Pier Operations

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@brianhoag8812
@brianhoag8812 3 ай бұрын
I said "F**k Me" 6 times during your presentation. This was considered a viable operation? Maybe they should have kept a few LST's around instead of expending them as targets.
@theophrastus3.056
@theophrastus3.056 3 ай бұрын
Fortunately, the government is always ready to F-you. And they’ll do it with money they took from someone else they’re also F-ing.
@therchas
@therchas 3 ай бұрын
This operation wasn’t for viability and effectiveness but for political optics
@Sagart999
@Sagart999 3 ай бұрын
@@therchas Spot on!
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 3 ай бұрын
@@therchas Right - but they failed at the 'political optics' goal because they failed at the viability and effectiveness of the operation. I don't exactly "watch the news" at this point, but I haven't noticed any media trying to put a positive spin on this.
@yrobtsvt
@yrobtsvt 3 ай бұрын
​@@RyTrapp0I think you are right. The need has not lessened at all, so the end of the operation implies that they've failed in the optics objectives. Most of the food is just sitting on the end of the pier because Israel has targeted food aid trucks and killed food aid workers multiple times
@mbjackson8029
@mbjackson8029 3 ай бұрын
I felt from the beginning this was a half ass effort. Publicity stunt that didn’t work.
@jerseyshoredroneservices225
@jerseyshoredroneservices225 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't call it a half assed effort. It was an ineffective plan from the beginning but the people who are executing the plan are putting forth maximum effort. Publicity stunt? I guess you could call with that. A lot of people around the country and the world were demanding that "something" be done so the big shots decided to do something, even if they knew it would be ineffective from the beginning.
3 ай бұрын
The big guy needed to get his 10% cut.
@maverickmyrtlebeach
@maverickmyrtlebeach 3 ай бұрын
Bail is going to be a lot, 10% may not cover it.
@tomhenry897
@tomhenry897 3 ай бұрын
Got biden votes
@dirtdevil70
@dirtdevil70 3 ай бұрын
My question...given how susceptible the pier is to weather ( 3 ft waves max) does the entire system have any practical use in military times?
@deplorable1-2
@deplorable1-2 3 ай бұрын
Someone needs to take a look at the Matson ops leaving the West Coast for Hawaii. A tad over a million POUNDS a day is sick. And the cargo is stacked onshore waiting to either rot or be stolen by guys with guns. What a waste of money and personnel for virtually zero.
@johnherrick7486
@johnherrick7486 3 ай бұрын
Maybe it was all a false show of support never meant to succeed so as to make us look magnanimus..
@More_Row
@More_Row 3 ай бұрын
I think you got it
@robertoleary3004
@robertoleary3004 3 ай бұрын
Bingo
@radiosnail
@radiosnail 3 ай бұрын
Should have read your comment before making mine.
@sgs1262
@sgs1262 3 ай бұрын
Nailed that
@richdobbs6595
@richdobbs6595 3 ай бұрын
My guess is that Biden made the decision to send the pier and was committed to it. But, from a strategic point of view of our ally Israel, they don't want Gaza to be resupplied. So no effort is being made to make this efficient.
@badbob9596
@badbob9596 3 ай бұрын
Another complete waste of US taxpayer money so a politician can say He cares.
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 3 ай бұрын
Not really, there will have been lots of lessons learnt form this and it will likely inform future developments and capabilities that are developed, you often learn more from relative failures than you do from success. At least they tried.
@chuckrogers5077
@chuckrogers5077 3 ай бұрын
@@tomriley5790 The lessons learned from this could have been learned by simply thinking it through instead of spending hundreds of millions..
@duenge
@duenge 3 ай бұрын
@@tomriley5790 This was done to appease the Arab population in the US. Given that US troops were not allowed to set their feet on the sand, this pier could not be properly installed and maintained. Great job Biden....And face it, this was just deliveries into the hands of Hamas, since they run the place.
@elhueso4330
@elhueso4330 3 ай бұрын
Man I'm here on one of these ships and it's a real shit show total waste of our money
@duenge
@duenge 3 ай бұрын
@@elhueso4330 Getting any harassment from the locals?
@rockbutcher
@rockbutcher 3 ай бұрын
They are being pretty selective about what they put into that $230M dollar amount. When you figure in fuel for the ships, salaries, wear and tear on equipment there is no way in hell that whole schmozz only cost $230M. The true cost will make airborne drops look cheap. Rushed plan, rushed gear...bad outcome.
@miamisasquatch
@miamisasquatch 3 ай бұрын
But also consider the training opportunity and effectiveness assessment of a platform with limited operational history
@ianshaver8954
@ianshaver8954 3 ай бұрын
Keep in mind you’re paying the warship crew salaries either way.
@robertrussell3264
@robertrussell3264 3 ай бұрын
Polly Anna here. Maybe the humiliation will motivate the government to address this massive void in our future capabilities. Shoot if we can't quickly put up a functional pier we are probably not ready for a major conflict.
@SennaAugustus
@SennaAugustus 3 ай бұрын
They don't want to succeed here, that's the point. It's just a way to spend some money whilst supporting Israel.
@DoctorMandible
@DoctorMandible 3 ай бұрын
Graft is the point. Efficacy is meaningless.
@PaulToth-lc2cv
@PaulToth-lc2cv 3 ай бұрын
I'm a nobody. And I knew that pier was NOT going to work out. Yes, the military is pulling it. But, I'm not talking about the pier.
@afterglow5285
@afterglow5285 3 ай бұрын
You understand nothing, it was never intended to work, it was just a political move to save netanyahu from the ICC
@blshouse
@blshouse 3 ай бұрын
@@afterglow5285 You mean to save Brandon from the pro-Hamas wing of his own party.
@ligmasack9038
@ligmasack9038 3 ай бұрын
@@afterglow5285 says the guy supporting TERRORISTS; let that sink in, 🤡
@WTF2BlueTiger
@WTF2BlueTiger 2 ай бұрын
@@blshouse Cant believe there are such imbeciles watching this channel, this pier is an effort to send in humanitarian aid ONLY to a region which is having aid blocked by a US ally, instead of you know, just telling Israel to stop fucking blocking aid and if it refuses, block all non essential military aid to them (which is already forbidden under US law which is currently being brokeN)
@buddystewart2020
@buddystewart2020 3 ай бұрын
So, they decided to use a tool that wasn't made for this situation in the first place, so, naturally, lets launch an investigation. A news report I read either yesterday or the day before said, one of the problems is once the supplies are moved onto the beach, they're just sitting there. The aid trucks that were moving the stuff inland were getting attacked, so they're having trouble moving it off the beach. If that's true, it wouldn't matter if you were able to move more onto the beach.
@bosshog8844
@bosshog8844 3 ай бұрын
Hamas is not attacking aide trucks. Israel has been launching missile strikes on food aide workers though.
@stnln2180
@stnln2180 3 ай бұрын
​@@bosshog8844 Yeah.... sure... and Hamas didn't rape and butchered all of those Jews too.... Do you really think this is Al Jazeera audience?😂
3 ай бұрын
@@bosshog8844 Liar. They were terrorists operating under cover as "aid workers". In other words, legitimate targets.
@wrldvw1836
@wrldvw1836 3 ай бұрын
Hamas is in bedded in the aid trucks and are using them as cover to attack Israel. Also, Hamas steals all the aid. This was a known disaster before it ever started
@buddystewart2020
@buddystewart2020 3 ай бұрын
@@bosshog8844 ... So you're going to take one high profile incident and extrapolate that out to - Israel is attacking all food trucks? You're smart, wow.
@edwardrich2564
@edwardrich2564 3 ай бұрын
Those navy divers, are pissed .
@maverickmyrtlebeach
@maverickmyrtlebeach 3 ай бұрын
You only get pay if under 1 fathom ~
@edwardrich2564
@edwardrich2564 3 ай бұрын
This is the most dumbstruck idea I've ever seen. And im a former marine.
@psikogeek
@psikogeek 3 ай бұрын
Subtle humor. I like it.
@bobbyirvin2502
@bobbyirvin2502 3 ай бұрын
Small tugs are loaded with causeway. Not sailed across the pond. Thank you for the updates on your channel. 👊 Retired Army Master Mariner / Master Diver
@garymartin9777
@garymartin9777 3 ай бұрын
please elaborate... what's a causeway in this context? Thank you for your service, sir.
@blshouse
@blshouse 3 ай бұрын
@@garymartin9777 The causeway is the technically correct name for the "pier".
@johnchin1456
@johnchin1456 3 ай бұрын
It was never intended to be an viable solution, doesn't take an expert to know this was for P.R purposes
@dave8218
@dave8218 3 ай бұрын
I would imagine the govt just walks away from that pier, look what they left behind in Afghanistan. 230 million is a drop in the Mediterranean.
@ryder6070
@ryder6070 3 ай бұрын
Too many camera phones
@keithhigh7773
@keithhigh7773 3 ай бұрын
Brit here. Yes, it might be a drop in the ocean, but it is $ 230 million dollars that is not available for aid for the Palestinian people or to help homeless people in America. I suppose the best that can be said is that the Democrats tried, whereas the Repugnants would have done bugger all.
3 ай бұрын
@@keithhigh7773 It was a scam from the very beginning.
@hotsoup1001
@hotsoup1001 3 ай бұрын
​@@keithhigh7773yup, and you better get ready to cry in November, cause all this nonsense will be going away.
@jakeoreilly9627
@jakeoreilly9627 3 ай бұрын
looks like d day
@jeffr6280
@jeffr6280 3 ай бұрын
Hard to believe our government would pick the least efficient, most expensive and dangerous way to do something. I'm sure the administration didn't have ulterior motives for doing any of this🙄.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 ай бұрын
It's no worse than a school district that gets four and a half billion dollars a year; still not be able to afford air conditioning or get rid of asbestos.
@paulhusbands
@paulhusbands 3 ай бұрын
Hell no
@jerseyshoredroneservices225
@jerseyshoredroneservices225 3 ай бұрын
If the goal was getting stuff into gaza this was a bad plan but I don't know that there are any better ones available. How would you suggest that they get supplies into gaza in a safer, cheaper, more efficient way?
@DefaultProphet
@DefaultProphet 3 ай бұрын
Blame Israel for them having to do use this method
@paulhusbands
@paulhusbands 3 ай бұрын
@@DefaultProphet" I will bless them that bless you, I will curse them that curse you" said The Lord,
@javajunky215
@javajunky215 3 ай бұрын
Half a billion dollars wasted, anyone that knows anything about the Navy and Army mobile pier systems knew this was a disaster to begin with. How the flack did anyone not realize this wasn’t going to work and it needless put American Service men and women at risk.
@dangvorbei5304
@dangvorbei5304 3 ай бұрын
It's a show, of course, and tonnage is gonna be reflected in grams on all the award citations. But I'm proud of all the Army sailors who are having to pull this mission out of thin air. And how DID that tug get there?
@johncheresna
@johncheresna 3 ай бұрын
What a waste, but I can't say I am surprised.
@JackPitmanNica
@JackPitmanNica 3 ай бұрын
The word "impotent" comes to mind
@Echowhiskeyone
@Echowhiskeyone 3 ай бұрын
I can think of two words, Charlie Foxtrot.
@ProctorsGamble
@ProctorsGamble 3 ай бұрын
SNAFU perhaps 🤔
@synupps877
@synupps877 3 ай бұрын
Who and/or what are you claiming to be impotent?
@fmccloud
@fmccloud 3 ай бұрын
Yeah it turns out that this a complex and delicate situation and no amount of snippy one liners from the KZbin content section is going change that.
@JackPitmanNica
@JackPitmanNica 3 ай бұрын
@@fmccloud Dont defend a disgusting political move that helps Israel starve people
@therchas
@therchas 3 ай бұрын
Moving stuff by pallet is a standard for us navy operations. Most people are trained and experienced in only pallet operations. Container operations are simply not practical for carrier and replenishment at sea operations that the navy does. So I’m not surprised to see this being continued on this peir even if containers would be more efficient in this case
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 ай бұрын
We are not doing a replenishment operation of a ship.
@therchas
@therchas 3 ай бұрын
@@WALTERBROADDUS yes but standard operating procedures have a tendency to used for operations they shouldn’t be used for in bureaucratic systems
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 ай бұрын
@@therchas there's no cranes to lift containers. And I don't see any longshoreman.
@Kim-J312
@Kim-J312 3 ай бұрын
It should have never ever been constructed !! They should ask why Egypt has 1000s of aid trucks on the Egyptian border side !!!
@ramrod9556
@ramrod9556 3 ай бұрын
You can't starve a population if you have a reliable delivery system. By pretending this pier was going to be a workable solution, they were able to keep all the humanitarian aid out of this area.
@Milo-id9qd
@Milo-id9qd 3 ай бұрын
Israel controls the border and won't let them through. Israel actually guards that border.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 ай бұрын
Maybe it's because the Egyptians are busy building a border wall? 🧱
@noIMspartacus2
@noIMspartacus2 3 ай бұрын
Not sure if you are being "naive" or very cleverly showing what a disaster this devious, desperate scam is... Oh ffs... Does anyone really "think" that the pier has anything to do with "a concern about getting humanitarian aid to Palestinians"?!?!?! When will all the "experts" cut the crap and cut to the chase - this is ALL about trying to get the Palestinians out of the region to clear the way for the full control of the off shore GAS ZONES in a desperate bid by the nazionist/anglo/american/ nato and bankster parasites to retain some hegemony in the region and control of major future energy supplies to their bitch slapped nato stooges in Europe! But like their murderous scam in Ukraine, it is collapsing as well...
@tpozzbarwani9977
@tpozzbarwani9977 3 ай бұрын
U mean sisi is busy​@@WALTERBROADDUS
@erikjohnson3255
@erikjohnson3255 3 ай бұрын
The ST912 was definitely loaded onto another ship and carried over.
@oldstogey7864
@oldstogey7864 3 ай бұрын
The recent commemorations of D-Day made much of the Mulberry floating harbours, and how they were set up in a day or two, and handled thousands of tons of supplies daily to keep the allied forces supplied. That was in the English Channel, not the (relatively) calm Mediterranean. Have we just lost the ability to do that?
@dongiovanni4331
@dongiovanni4331 3 ай бұрын
The mulberries were prefabricated in the UK, and hauled over the Channel. As to the sea state of the Channel, one of the Mulberries was destroyed by a storm a few weeks after it was set up.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 ай бұрын
That requires a lot more money and infrastructure.
@Onequietvoice
@Onequietvoice 3 ай бұрын
@@dongiovanni4331 Still shows what can be done when there is a genuine will to do something.
@johnmay23
@johnmay23 3 ай бұрын
@@dongiovanni4331 CORRE THE U.S. PIER BROKE UP !
@shannonm.townsend1232
@shannonm.townsend1232 3 ай бұрын
No
@olpaint71
@olpaint71 3 ай бұрын
This whole thing was a fool's errand. If we (the US) were going to "do something," then we should not take half-measures to try to look good politically. Want to run a JLOTS mission? Great, send over a MEU/ARG, establish a beachhead (with CG/DDGs parked offshore and B-52/B-1 support on-call for force protection), send the Army/Marines/Seabees necessary to support the pier and the transload area, crank up the MLPs to do the job they were designed for, and move some serious tonnage. If we didn't think the mission was worth the potential risk to our "boots on the ground," then we should stay home. This kind of half-measure nonsense is idiotic. And is what brings us things like Mogadishu/Black Hawk Down. Act. Or don't act. Have the fortitude to make a decision and follow through.
@koffeekage
@koffeekage 3 ай бұрын
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
@cyberninjazero5659
@cyberninjazero5659 3 ай бұрын
Damn you beat me to it
@shlosher
@shlosher 3 ай бұрын
lol
@deansawich6250
@deansawich6250 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Sal for another really informative and interesting video. This is what happens when Politicians call the shots, they are not known for taking reality into consideration. Hats off to all the Servicemen that have had to try and make a Politician's fantasy into a reality.
@PapaOscarNovember
@PapaOscarNovember 3 ай бұрын
I was always under the impression that the deliverables of this mission was not to move the needle on tons of aid transported, but rather to generate photos/videos of US soldiers doing something for Gazans so that US voters who sympathize with Palestinians can be placated. I’m pretty sure that’s the criterion by which decision on continuing the mission will be made.
@ajc5479
@ajc5479 3 ай бұрын
Strange, it was the military that planned and executed this operation.
@peters-adventure
@peters-adventure 3 ай бұрын
@deansawich6250, I'm glad for your post. It most closely matches my sentiment. The episode's live videos show a how hazardous the operation is. The U.S. military designed an inadequate system for proper throughput. The Israeli military further jeopardized the humanitarian aid operation when they used the beach by the pier for a military evacuation. The pier is a worsening political failure. The pier should be shut down safely, to minimize injury or worse, to U.S. servicemen. Political pressure should be applied to Israel, to open the ports for aid to flow at higher throughput.
@loladavinci1243
@loladavinci1243 3 ай бұрын
What a horrible abuse of taxpayer money squandered upon a ‘famine’ that never was.
@TulsAmerican
@TulsAmerican 3 ай бұрын
That operation wasn’t about delivering aid. It was a “show”, failed spectacularly, and will soon disappear down the “memory hole” to avoid how incompetent they were to even think of trying it.
@patrickoconnor2401
@patrickoconnor2401 3 ай бұрын
Good video, neutral, objective analysis, thank you. Is that a ‘willomy pine’ (from Australia) in the background? If so, awesome! Excuse the spelling, please.
@carneeki
@carneeki 3 ай бұрын
I've seen eucalyptus when I was in Israel, the Wollemi Pine, would surprise me, they are native to only a small and specific area of the Blue Mountains just west of Sydney, and access is not permitted to the general public. That said, given how endangered the pine is, they can be purchased from nurseries to help prevent their extinction. Would be interesting to see if they were transported to Gaza in case something happened in Australia that killed the tree off. (sorry for going waaay off topic if you meant a different pine)
@patrickoconnor2401
@patrickoconnor2401 3 ай бұрын
@@carneeki Thank you for your concise reply, carneeki, I thought I recognized is from the very rough bark and the rather primitive, disheveled branches and ‘leaves’. I am aware of the protected status of that grove of plant life in Blue Mountains Australia, and I am interested in having a plant of my own when they become available. As far as I know, there are samples at the KEW and at a museum in Hamilton, Ontario Canada.
@GamePerson-w3e
@GamePerson-w3e 3 ай бұрын
seems that the whole thing was a pr stunt after all, that or we can't figure out aid, but then the arms are still moving well enough
@AtomicBuffalo
@AtomicBuffalo 3 ай бұрын
When the destination nation wants the arms and not the aid...
@Onequietvoice
@Onequietvoice 3 ай бұрын
@@AtomicBuffalo The destination was Gaza.
@Hybris51129
@Hybris51129 3 ай бұрын
@@Onequietvoice Correct that said however what food does come in does go their fighting forces first as is customary in this part of the world. Another example of us supplying our own enemies with war material.
@AtomicBuffalo
@AtomicBuffalo 3 ай бұрын
@@Onequietvoice If Gaza was a nation we wouldn't still be dancing around a two-state solution.
@wcgcapone
@wcgcapone 3 ай бұрын
@@AtomicBuffalo Jordan is the two state solution.
@brandonblackfyre5783
@brandonblackfyre5783 3 ай бұрын
*Let us NOT FORGET the, amazing & beautiful, quote that our, very strong & full of life, President Biden gave us regarding the Red Sea, Israel & the Houthi's....* *"We beat the war against MEDICAD!!!"*
@cathiwim
@cathiwim 3 ай бұрын
Biggest boondoggle of the decade! How much of the aid went to Hamas?
@stevecrombie5357
@stevecrombie5357 3 ай бұрын
One can see why some are calling for the halt of this boondoogle.
@mackfisher4487
@mackfisher4487 3 ай бұрын
Sal, very informative particularly with your maritime background. (With tongue-in-cheek) Look out the Senate investigative committee will have you up giving testimony on the latest rounds of political sniping.
@scducksscducks7511
@scducksscducks7511 3 ай бұрын
Love your channel, Sal. The "L" is silent in Moultrie. Properly pronounced "Moo-Tree".
@pat36a
@pat36a 3 ай бұрын
Will this affect Joes new job data? 350 million wasted, can't even use it as a training exercises, unless it's to show what "Not" to do.
@greyjay9202
@greyjay9202 3 ай бұрын
Doomed to failure even before it began. Anyone who bothered to ask the weather folks for information about wind, tide, and sea state, would have known not to attempt setting up this pier on that unprotected beachhead. The world watches us embarrass ourselves, and takes note.
@ianwhitfield8169
@ianwhitfield8169 3 ай бұрын
This was a glorified exercise to see how well the JLOLTS really work in a real life situation. The marine Corps are making a decision!
@davidty2006
@davidty2006 3 ай бұрын
Turns out... Same as mulberry, the weather is bloody pain.
@miamisasquatch
@miamisasquatch 3 ай бұрын
Hopefully we haven't built doctrine around these.
@philliplopez1501
@philliplopez1501 3 ай бұрын
We do infact have doctrine regarding mobile pier operations. I would call this a failed Beta test. And expect funding to replace this with a more viable system with next year's budget.
@SpringIsBACK
@SpringIsBACK 3 ай бұрын
This system would work fine (if a bit expensively) in an environment for which it was designed.
@susanpetropoulos1039
@susanpetropoulos1039 3 ай бұрын
Wonder which political family partnered with the contractor providing pier materials.
@maverickmyrtlebeach
@maverickmyrtlebeach 3 ай бұрын
oow oow pick me !
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 3 ай бұрын
Considering they are probably older than you are, none.
@MrRainrunner
@MrRainrunner 3 ай бұрын
The ONLY reason I can think of for break bulk vs containers is security. Easier for dogs to check everything for bombs?
@rickc4317
@rickc4317 3 ай бұрын
yes, I had the same thought
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 ай бұрын
You are taking stuff off ship. Not putting it on?
@DrewNorthup
@DrewNorthup 2 ай бұрын
​@@WALTERBROADDUS Irrelevant. This is humanitarian aid, not military materiel.
@DrewNorthup
@DrewNorthup 2 ай бұрын
Mr Rain It is a requirement set out years ago by Israel. They then turn back an entire container-worth / truckload at a time for any reason whatsoever, in violation of the relevant Geneva Conventions, when a single pallet is deemed "out of order". The USA could force them to back down but is unwilling to challenge Benjamin Netanyahu on the matter.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 2 ай бұрын
@@DrewNorthup Apparently, those in charge don't agree.
@Colinpark
@Colinpark 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely the crews really deserve a lot of kudos for doing the best job they could in impossible conditions, both weather and political.
@mistersmith3368
@mistersmith3368 3 ай бұрын
At time 7:43, I really enjoy seeing DoD is still using "left handed, metric shipyard wrench" not a properly sized wrench.
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 3 ай бұрын
A competent US leader, say perhaps a successful real estate construction guy, would have persuaded Israel and possibly Egypt, to let the aid flow through an established port. He probably would have also realized that containers were the way to go. But you gotta go with what you got, at least for now.
@crinklecut3790
@crinklecut3790 3 ай бұрын
I always thought it was a bad strategy but I’m sad to see it really didn’t work well. Those people are so desperate for aid I was hoping it would help more.
@markthebuilder9837
@markthebuilder9837 3 ай бұрын
Hamas is a terrorist organization. I would send no aid.
@ligmasack9038
@ligmasack9038 3 ай бұрын
Then they should stop starting fights with israel, and violating the Treaties they begged for after starting said fights with Israel; better yet they should GTFO of Israel as they have ZERO CLAIM to it.
@Bonnie-e6p
@Bonnie-e6p 3 ай бұрын
Let Iran feed them
@ProctorsGamble
@ProctorsGamble 3 ай бұрын
Yeah. They know how to move weapons into Gaza. Food would be easy.
@skutchBlobaum
@skutchBlobaum 3 ай бұрын
@@ProctorsGamble All the US can move in is more created currency which is bankrupting most Americans.
@Onequietvoice
@Onequietvoice 3 ай бұрын
Racism gets 18 (now 23) thmbs up. Trying to feed starving people gets none.
@Bonnie-e6p
@Bonnie-e6p 3 ай бұрын
@@Onequietvoice they aren’t starving by any stretch of the imagination
@shannonm.townsend1232
@shannonm.townsend1232 3 ай бұрын
​@@Bonnie-e6pgo there and check just to be sure
@davegl1236
@davegl1236 3 ай бұрын
There is a repeated misconception about number of tracks before and after 7 Oct. The number before is tracks carrying everything. Building supply, Manufacturing supply, Food... The number post 7 Oct is just humanitarian aid. e.g food and medical supply.
@NotSure416
@NotSure416 3 ай бұрын
I think they're not using containers because of transparency. You can hide anything in a container. Less easy on pallets.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 ай бұрын
You don't have any cargo cranes to move containers.
@stupidburp
@stupidburp 3 ай бұрын
Can’t stack containers high on these vessels. Pallets moved by forklift makes more sense. Especially when the marshaling area is completely full anyways even with the limited throughput achieved and the internal distribution in Gaza is not keeping up.
@CanalTremocos
@CanalTremocos 3 ай бұрын
This was a weird mission from the start. Why make an amphibious landing when Egypt could open a border crossing directly into Gaza? Lots of politics. Big international relations. This one could suspect this pier was just a decoy to avoid the Gaza-Egypt crossing becoming a flashpoint and somewhere someone issuing an ultimatum.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 ай бұрын
Does Egypt doesn't want them. And is building a border wall to keep them out.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 ай бұрын
It's not weird at all. This has more to do with politics than Logistics.
@jonahhekmatyar
@jonahhekmatyar 3 ай бұрын
Israel has closed the border and been preventing aid trucks from getting into gaza since before the war even started
@walsterdoomit
@walsterdoomit 3 ай бұрын
Im not military but i believe theres a term for this. Fubar if i am not mistaken.👍🍺
@stevenbowron1287
@stevenbowron1287 3 ай бұрын
It's the democratic government everything moves slowly and backwards😅
@GregHart-rs4hm
@GregHart-rs4hm 3 ай бұрын
White House was advised this was a bad idea, deployed it anyhow.
@michaelkinsey4649
@michaelkinsey4649 3 ай бұрын
This is rather less about weather or equipment or ability than it is about politics. Political will would see enough resource - even blockships against the weather! - put into place. BUT the one side can't guarantee safety or accept foreign military ashore, and frankly WANTS to continue the difficulties for it's people. And the other doesn't seem to want to facilitate the use of a proper port eg Ashdod , then onward road distribution.... (And that ignores the central land access and Southern port access from Egypt!) I truly feel sorry for the US Army and Navy here..... professional people - and this is not their fault!! As for Mulberries..... the lesson is that any facility intended for more than a very short (a day or two) term operation requires ENORMOUS planning and support and security - and that means allied political will. Nice update Sal, thanks you.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 ай бұрын
You've already put about $300 million into this. And you wanted to put more infrastructure?
@Onequietvoice
@Onequietvoice 3 ай бұрын
@@WALTERBROADDUS How does that compare to the Military aid given to Israel to create this crisis?
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 ай бұрын
​@@Onequietvoicethey should be happy they got $1 or pallet one? Hamas brought this on themselves and the people of Gaza. And once they even got the aid, they withhold hold it from the people.
@keithhigh7773
@keithhigh7773 3 ай бұрын
Brit here. You are probably right about the political will. All the "heavy lifting" for Mulberries was done in 1942/43/44. All the designs are readily available, and given the time the Gaza pier was in the planning, the concrete caissons could have been fabricated in Cyprus and shipped across. The block ships (gooseberries in Mulberry speak) could have been substituted by more caissons.The Mulberries were designed to handle a much greater rise and fall of tide than 3 feet. Historical note, some concrete caissons are still visible just off the beach in Arromanches, Normandy, France. I live just a few miles from where many caissons were fabricated here on the south coast of England and in this 80th anniversary year of D-Day, we will shortly be erecting a monument commemorating Mulberries and all the people engaged in their manufacture.
@raquelho4319
@raquelho4319 3 ай бұрын
Also, the work of Merchant Marines!
@shanemac1111
@shanemac1111 3 ай бұрын
Token effort. To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you can't criticize. -Voltaire.
@karasz236
@karasz236 3 ай бұрын
230 million to virtue signal to a terrorist organization.. idiocy
@ThePsiclone
@ThePsiclone 3 ай бұрын
one containership could drop 100,000 tons of aid to the dock in a few days, they've managed less than 7000 tons in weeks. Those poor sods there actually doing the work must be like "why the f... are we doing it like this???" Its just soul destroying working like a dog knowing what you're doing is essentially pointless.
@laurenglass4514
@laurenglass4514 3 ай бұрын
No one reported on how the tug got there?
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 3 ай бұрын
Several reported that it was hoisted aboard.
@jedclampett7705
@jedclampett7705 3 ай бұрын
$230,000,000 that we don’t even have…to pour down someone else’s drain. What happened to this once great country? Unreal.
@markseaman4750
@markseaman4750 3 ай бұрын
Whatever the decision, it will be based on optics and political considerations. Never mind if it works or not.
@shawnheaps8554
@shawnheaps8554 3 ай бұрын
Actually this is amazing the reporter is such a bleeding heart the questions are is why does the USA need to spend the taxpayer money when Egypt can open the border and all the people can flee. Also could you imagine this being done during the Normandy invasion on June 6 , 1944 the Germans would have died laughing. But hey it’s our government just a bunch of geniuses and none of them could run a brothel or liquor store without running it broke.
@scottsmith9334
@scottsmith9334 3 ай бұрын
I’m prior Amphibious transport Navy. I noticed two things in your excellent video. One, I’ll take this as all other operations as a Training exercise. The second was the Aid coming from the UAE. One could derive a lot of intelligence from this operation. IMHO. 😎🇺🇸👍🏻
@cxzact9204
@cxzact9204 3 ай бұрын
The Emiratis wouldn't be foolish enough to send illicit supplies through that channel, I think. They have plenty of tunnels built by the Egyptians to use for that. But you're right, it's great training but I suspect the outcome of the exercise will be that the military has learned to not use systems in conditions they weren't designed for. Or so I hope.
@Greenmachine305
@Greenmachine305 3 ай бұрын
Nobody is learning anything of value here, other than it sucks to be a marine. Even if they did, they sure as hell won't put that knowledge to good use in the future. The whole operation was a PR stunt designed to distract the population from focusing on complicit US involvement in the Gaza incursion.
@SWOBIZ
@SWOBIZ 3 ай бұрын
It would have been far easier to provide humanitarian relief if Egypt and other Arab states had granted temporary asylum to Gazan women, children, and the elderly. Deliveries could have occurred outside the active conflict zone. And it would have undermined Hamas' evil human shield strategy.
@dannyjoebrown4611
@dannyjoebrown4611 3 ай бұрын
Think of all the money they saved by not paying the crews involved hazardous duty pay while sending them into a bonafide war zone! So, we have that going for us.
@ashtonwilliams7395
@ashtonwilliams7395 3 ай бұрын
Fr no hazard pay???
@jackdawg4579
@jackdawg4579 3 ай бұрын
Sal, you have been around long enough - you know "the pier" was totally effective, it was a fulfilled political promise. Whether it was actually useful or functional is irrelevant! Someone in the Military will now do a nice 30 minute power point about the "learnings" to cover up all the failures, and all the boxes will have been ticked.
@jonathanbush6197
@jonathanbush6197 3 ай бұрын
So whose brilliant idea was this?
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 ай бұрын
West Wing of the White House.
@rbstevns1534
@rbstevns1534 3 ай бұрын
Hamas didn’t want it because they can’t hide weapons in the cargo, HAMAS stole 20 million in cash loaded onto a truck every month for 17 years, they have billions and are the richest country in the world when it comes to the balance sheet 😂😂😂😂 🇮🇱
@ecossearthur
@ecossearthur 3 ай бұрын
Don't promise what you are unable to achieve.....
@marvinwestern4276
@marvinwestern4276 3 ай бұрын
Remember whose idea it was to begin with. An entire political career has been built on not worrying about the final outcome.
@ecossearthur
@ecossearthur 3 ай бұрын
@@marvinwestern4276 💯 %
@Mag_Aoidh
@Mag_Aoidh 3 ай бұрын
It was never met to be used on an open coastline but in “protected” waters. This was purely political and meant to gain brownie points, not help. “Hey, look what we’re doing!” You ask anyone who actually put hands on that thing and they will tell you. Thanks Sal!
@johnlangley6449
@johnlangley6449 3 ай бұрын
Your tax at waste again when will this madness end?
@peteb6682
@peteb6682 3 ай бұрын
Sal, you called it correctly from the get-go when this operation was announced, what 5 months ago!! You should provide the investigators a copy of your episode from months ago! You're a class act for not saying "I told you so!"
@Frankenspank67
@Frankenspank67 3 ай бұрын
$230 million dollars!! Good lord what a waste of money. How is that even possible that it could cost even close to that? What a freaking joke.
@philhatfield2282
@philhatfield2282 3 ай бұрын
With the 8,332 pallets delivered thus far, it comes to $27,604 per pallet.
@alltat
@alltat 3 ай бұрын
The good news is that at least the people involved are getting plenty of hands on experience. Both with what works and what doesn't.
@RobotWrangler
@RobotWrangler 3 ай бұрын
​@@philhatfield2282I prefer to think of it as $15 a pound
@sam2441983
@sam2441983 3 ай бұрын
because the UAE payed for it not the US.
@ProctorsGamble
@ProctorsGamble 3 ай бұрын
It has been a learning experience for our military 🤔
@snowness110
@snowness110 3 ай бұрын
Is anyone reporting on the mortar and rocket attacks on the pier?
@DUBSTEP_KUSH305
@DUBSTEP_KUSH305 3 ай бұрын
DOING ALL OF THAT SETTING UP ONLY 23 TO 29 AID TRUCKS WENT INTO GAZA (THEY SAID IT WILL BE 90 DAILY THREW PIER) TRUCKS OUT OF 600+ TRUCKS UM WTH 😮
@herberthenry6213
@herberthenry6213 3 ай бұрын
Very informative. Well done.
@Frankenspank67
@Frankenspank67 3 ай бұрын
Not efficient you say? Hmmm never would have thought our govt could do things inefficiently, so surprising.
@shlomoishtov7617
@shlomoishtov7617 3 ай бұрын
I stated it would fail as soon as it was announced. The heat transfer after dusk over the Sahara desert whips the winds in the Med to over 40kph during the late spring and summer months. The sea state is always 4 to 5 in the summer, at least once a day. This was never meant for open seas, it was designed to replace damaged docks in harbors, and atolls. A elevated pier system driven into the seabed could have been constructed and extended out 2 or 3 kilometers, but would be much more expensive and take months. The US could have simply used the extended pier already existing in Ashdod, as well as the port, and delivered 10x the aid. This stunt was a Biden campaign boast made at the State of the Union, proposed by people who had no idea how it works, and the objections of the Army were ignored.
@jamesharrod8733
@jamesharrod8733 3 ай бұрын
prime example of the leadership of military and government of usa , not good
@TheMusicHeals.kjhjhhg
@TheMusicHeals.kjhjhhg 3 ай бұрын
sorta like Trump letting 5000 taliban terrorists go free to kill our troops?
@ardiffley-zipkin9539
@ardiffley-zipkin9539 3 ай бұрын
Great report, Sal. You should share it with Congress, especially the budget committees We are pouring money out with no success or reason. Look at our leadership. .
@jbweld6193
@jbweld6193 3 ай бұрын
That pier only existed to shore up the Hamas vote in Detroit and Minneapolis. Purely political.
@larryt4884
@larryt4884 3 ай бұрын
That's the impression I got.
@skutchBlobaum
@skutchBlobaum 3 ай бұрын
As if voting matters when you live in an oligarchy.
@raymondnoel6053
@raymondnoel6053 3 ай бұрын
Muslims does not equal Hamas... your comment is racist!
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 ай бұрын
This does have all the makings of a West Wing of the White House operation. And of course like Afghanistan, no one will be Held accountable.
@Onequietvoice
@Onequietvoice 3 ай бұрын
Casual and unnecessary slander of the populations of Detroit and Minneopilis.
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 3 ай бұрын
Watching the on-site video, "JLOTS" should be renamed to "JOLTS".
@DUBSTEP_KUSH305
@DUBSTEP_KUSH305 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@banto1
@banto1 3 ай бұрын
Would have been a lot better to just give the cash to the Gazans and have them order uber eats or doordash...
@johnbrossack3791
@johnbrossack3791 3 ай бұрын
A CF of the first order. I really feel for the US military personnel who are tasked with making this CF work. Kudos to them.
@balaklava6420
@balaklava6420 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the update Sal.
@stupidburp
@stupidburp 3 ай бұрын
The marshaling area is full and not being emptied at any significant rate. The land based crossings have similar backlog with over 1200 containers sitting inside of Gaza waiting for pick up. The main problem is internal distribution in Gaza and the completely inadequate logistics of the UN and other international organizations to handle the volume of aid piling up. The IDF has tried to distribute the aid themselves but are attacked every time they try to help the locals. Furthermore, the need for aid was vastly overstated and the same organization that gave the initial warning of potential famine has now reversed its analysis and sees no widespread famine in Gaza. The entire operation is a waste and the aid should be sent where it is actually needed such as Sudan.
@gernblansten684
@gernblansten684 3 ай бұрын
Its the Army. They disassembled the tug, every soldier put a piece in their ruck, then they reassembled at sea.
@tomrogers9467
@tomrogers9467 3 ай бұрын
But it then became a large anchor.
@andrewmcfarland57
@andrewmcfarland57 3 ай бұрын
In other words, it was yet another (expensive) political nothingburger.
@silentron1748
@silentron1748 3 ай бұрын
This operation is on the same level of incompetence as Jimmy Carter’s aborted attempt at hostage rescue he tried using helicopters during a sand storm.
@durgan5668
@durgan5668 3 ай бұрын
I don't have the heart to watch this, I really don't. It was an operation based on 'feels' not common sense. Still left a 'like and comment for the algorithm' but, nope, too painful to see tax dollars wasted on people who hate us anyway. They complained about the food they were given last time, that would have been the door slammed shut for me.
@MattPerdeck
@MattPerdeck 3 ай бұрын
You said that the cargo that has been delivered is mostly sitting on the beach, waiting for the UN to distribute it. As in, if this operation became much more efficient, it wouldn't matter to the people of Gaza, because it is the UN that is the bottleneck here. Also, I'm sure containers are more efficient than pallets, but can the UN actually handle containers in Gaza?
@raymondnoel6053
@raymondnoel6053 3 ай бұрын
at least 224 humanitarian personnel have been killed in Gaza during the ongoing conflict... probably 5x more were injured. The UN have an impossible task and they are not the one being a problem in this conflict.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 ай бұрын
Not when UN workers are busy playing Terrorists.
@Onequietvoice
@Onequietvoice 3 ай бұрын
Unrwa was the only organisation doing an effective job of distributing aid so naturally the US stopped funding it,
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 ай бұрын
It's kind of hard to distribute food ; when your U.N. workers are busy being terrorists....
3 ай бұрын
@@raymondnoel6053 It is well documented that Hamas has thoroughly infiltrated virtually all of the "humanitarian" organizations in Gaza. They essentially work for hamas and provide cover for their fighters, which makes them legitimate targets.
@gregjames9875
@gregjames9875 3 ай бұрын
Did the 400 truck loads make it to the gaussian people, or did it go directly to Hamas?
@cameltanker1286
@cameltanker1286 3 ай бұрын
When it comes to securing votes in Wayne County, Michigan. No expense is extravagant.
@MM22966
@MM22966 3 ай бұрын
Dearborn area?
@MM22966
@MM22966 3 ай бұрын
@MartyrAlmo Duuude, there are only 4.45 million Muslims in the US. That is about 1.3 PERCENT of the total population. Use Google before you quote a number.
@MM22966
@MM22966 3 ай бұрын
@MartyrAlmo Probably just hypnotized by certain media echo chambers and didn't check.
@MM22966
@MM22966 3 ай бұрын
@MartyrAlmo Where do you think the Google numbers come from? That is U.S. Census & immigration data, i.e. those are SELF-REPORTED numbers. Individual Muslim households put their hands up to be counted. Now, the numbers aren't perfect, and they do the Census only every ten years, and do projections between those times, and it isn't going to account for illegal immigration or people that duck the surveys for whatever reason, but it isn't going to be off by "50 to 70 million". That would be every eight American. If you had said 500,000 or a million extra I might have believed you.
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 3 ай бұрын
This is honestly worse than I expected, this is ridiculous. Moving PALLETS at a time? Transferring PALLETS multiple times between various vehicles before they touch ground? This is just absurd. "...an investigation is about to be launched into the pier..." - Can't wait to find out who they scapegoat for this one
@sam2441983
@sam2441983 3 ай бұрын
-- P A T H E T I C -- . It was only a photo opp, don't you get it.
@mattg5022
@mattg5022 3 ай бұрын
Just one of the stupidest monstrosities but par for the course - Berlin Airlift it’s NOT
@rogerd777
@rogerd777 3 ай бұрын
I am confused. Why can't they ship the supplies into an Egyptian port near Gaza, then truck it to the Egyptian/Gaza border? Is there something I am missing? This seems like a simpler, easier method.
@zq_77
@zq_77 3 ай бұрын
Israel effectively controls the borders between gaza and egypt. Another question is why not via land from Israel? The whole project is a joke.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 ай бұрын
At the moment, the border crossing is closed.
@shannonm.townsend1232
@shannonm.townsend1232 3 ай бұрын
Israel shut down Rafah crossing
@ef2718
@ef2718 3 ай бұрын
Yes, that would have been the proper way, the down side is that at the time the decision was made, until mid May, Hamas had control over the areas near the Gaza/Egypt border, so Hamas, other groups and local gangs robbed food convoys.
@shannonm.townsend1232
@shannonm.townsend1232 3 ай бұрын
@@ef2718 nice story
@Jim-dr2ec
@Jim-dr2ec 3 ай бұрын
If the report says anything other than "politicians shouldn't pick maritime logistics solutions" its a sham.
@williamherrick497
@williamherrick497 3 ай бұрын
Enjoying a reliable update. Appreciate the UNCOLA - no hyperbolic adjectives or adverbs on this channel
@johnherrick7486
@johnherrick7486 3 ай бұрын
Another Herrick...
@TheMajorActual
@TheMajorActual 3 ай бұрын
I am completely speechless. My God. What an abject disaster.
@JD1459
@JD1459 3 ай бұрын
Just like everything this admin does, it turns into hot steamy dog crap.
@synupps877
@synupps877 3 ай бұрын
Does that mean you believe that the T---- administration was both effective and doing good things?
@richardmartyn7865
@richardmartyn7865 3 ай бұрын
Facing famine...what nonsense
@martinmdl6879
@martinmdl6879 3 ай бұрын
It is not efficient ON PURPOSE. A foreign Government who controls the US Government does not want ANY aid in Gaza. This is their remedy.
@whya2ndaccount
@whya2ndaccount 3 ай бұрын
It sounded like there were distribution issues once it was ashore too. Little point in piling it up on the beach if it goes nowhere after that.
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