Is the HYBE "Leaked Document" Just Media Manipulation? Who’s Behind It & How Will They Respond?

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@entropyawylli24
@entropyawylli24 10 күн бұрын
As said before... for Karma to work you got to have resilience and patience and stay classy.The truth will win. I really trust that HYBE will handle this very professional and smart.
@whk3120
@whk3120 10 күн бұрын
There’s also cultural, societal, hierarchical, hush money, political and legal manipulation that as senseless and time consuming it may seem, are still barriers and this is the playing field that min heejin is using to full advantage. Do not underestimate these barriers, they exist and are a pain and seem illegal to us but it is what it is.
@kimjeon_2016
@kimjeon_2016 10 күн бұрын
​@whk3120 By doing so, SK is showing its true colors to the world. HYBE will get through this.
@Twinkles2676
@Twinkles2676 9 күн бұрын
SK switch sides faster than my sis switching clothes
@NowAndToEternity
@NowAndToEternity 9 күн бұрын
The truth did win. And the result was Hybe just fired their CCO and their CEO just apologized. LMFAO. Hybe fans are really delulu.
@jollybee5220
@jollybee5220 9 күн бұрын
say what again?
@arlene9275
@arlene9275 10 күн бұрын
I think Hybe knows exactly what they are doing. She wants them to fight back. Then she can blow the whole issue out of proportion and make up more lies. It's better they stay quiet and not reveal their own plan. Look how they were able to fire her as CEO. No one knew what they were doing behind the scenes, but they were smart and effective.
@leyang4807
@leyang4807 10 күн бұрын
Hybe works in the shadow. Any time the media puts out something, it's either her or prob her leaking things so haters can say it's Hybe"s media play when Hybe hasn't said sh!t. This gets the haters a platform to spread more BS for Hybe to collect Behind The Scene. All these noise are just noise. When Hybe collects enough evidence, they will present it in court. All of SK better watch out.
@user-ql2dg6yf8q
@user-ql2dg6yf8q 9 күн бұрын
@@arlene9275 Exactly. Still, it’s time for this MHJ charade to end. She is poison for South Korea image to the world.
@NowAndToEternity
@NowAndToEternity 9 күн бұрын
They just fired their CCO and the CEO just apologized. LMFAO. Hybe fans are really delulu.
@jollybee5220
@jollybee5220 9 күн бұрын
lol delulu much
@royalcheese665
@royalcheese665 8 күн бұрын
​​@@NowAndToEternity they can't even make a difference between BTS and Hybe, they think they treat them like God while they just see them as products, they just can't control them anymore like they used to because they're mature now and know better. That's why they're so eager to find the next BTS, so when BTS is old enough and their popularity declining or wants to leave the company they won't lose a lot of money or investment. Those agencies fans are blind, they're doing business not charity, to think they can't do mean things to get what they want to gain more is beyond me, they're "Capitalist" duh. After all of that North Korea isn't that bad tho as they portrayed them to be.
@JinJuneOut-ld1jn
@JinJuneOut-ld1jn 10 күн бұрын
All I can say is if I owned a company I would never want it to be in Korea. If you have no protection against slander, liabel, gossip or harassment- then why would I ever set up a business there. I know some people believe that HYBE AMERICA is a potential new home for BTS and (while I hope not because they love their country) it is an opportunity to not have to deal with this BS anymore. The big 3 can go back to being the big 3, Korea can loose billions of dollars in revenue, kpop can go back to being a niche market, and unfortunately KArmy will have to wait with anticipation for when BTS will tour or travel like others to see them. The Korean media, politicians and entertainment sectors are cutting off their noses to spite their faces and they are so blinded by envy and corruption that it doesn't even matter to them the damage they are doing to their country and economy.
@bqanto
@bqanto 10 күн бұрын
It is not about the seven guys moving to live in the US, but about Bighit becoming an American label and releasing their Korean albums in the US, doing promotion in the US. This would take a lot of pressure off everyone working in Bighit, because the albums wouldn't be in competition with other Korean artists. As foreign albums, they would not enter any Korean competitions and they wouldn't be in competition with Korean artists, just like any American artists. They would become American Korean-speaking artists. And of course, they would still live in Korea, which is their home, but they would start their tours in America to fix only the last date in Korea. To make it easier for the Korean army they can do more concerts in Japan and Southeast Asia. Today, we live in a global village.
@joycegoins8221
@joycegoins8221 10 күн бұрын
That’s why I said tourist should avoid going there ,because it’s a bully country. If they’re doing their own like that just imagine how they will treat strangers.
@katiaferreira4370
@katiaferreira4370 10 күн бұрын
Can you imagine if HYBE decided to tell them all where to go and take their business abroad 🤣 big 3 could then returned to their little puffed up world dealing with basically a niche market like before and no more leeching off the damn hard work of others who started from the ground up in the midst of a lot of hate and little support! You would think that a certain level of appreciation. Would be shown but the arrogance is such that they unable to see past their nose! I say leave South Korea and focus everywhere else. No offence to those that still respect the group and company but headquarters don’t need to be in SK
@joycegoins8221
@joycegoins8221 10 күн бұрын
@@katiaferreira4370 I agree a lot of countries would gladly welcome him,he would bring in money through tourism. Just BTS alone I would love to see that day and I would be listening when they start to realize the damage they do to their people.
@jollybee5220
@jollybee5220 9 күн бұрын
lol say what again? hybe itself admitted to it and you're still defending them
@샤콘느-z8f
@샤콘느-z8f 10 күн бұрын
이런 말도 안되는 일이 이렇게 일어나는 건 언론의 문제입니다. 이미 민의 말을 믿는 사람은 그들의 팬들 말고 없습니다. 여기에 속는 사람들은 이 문제에 깊은 생각이 없거나 어린 사람 같은데.... 그중에 우리나라 국회위원이 있다는 게 유감이군요. 진실은 다 드러나게 되어 있습니다. 조금만 힘내십시오.
@rebeccaavoca9143
@rebeccaavoca9143 10 күн бұрын
I HOPE SO, .. IT'S REALLY FRUSTATING & SAD ..
@lealarsen2017
@lealarsen2017 10 күн бұрын
true but if they can turn all young potional fans against hybe and make them fans of their own artist then it is a win for them. they dont need this to be true to win something by stupid people
@KsenijaHajdu-x3g
@KsenijaHajdu-x3g 10 күн бұрын
@@lealarsen2017Ta mlada populacija je zelo nevarna, ker so vsrkali vso ideologijo Min Heejin. Tudi, če bo Min Heejin kaznovana, ne bodo odnehali!
@danyell4827
@danyell4827 10 күн бұрын
But it's too much. There are hundreds of videos and shorts pushing the same narrative displayed by the politicians at the national assembly when they took everything out of context, these kids are treating it like truth
@karlasandomingo9337
@karlasandomingo9337 10 күн бұрын
It's curious that they put fans of the Hybe groups in that petition but there is nothing about this on the networks. Army always sends messages with # and collectively, especially on Twitter. Why do they use such a non-strategic strategy? Since when do fans of Hybe groups unite their voices for the same cause? And this "cause" is so ridiculous! The people who believe this are naive. I feel like MHJ is running out of creativity. It's all so obvious. On the other hand, the list of comments is partial and not verified. Why would someone from the National Assembly agree to bring such an unserious document? How sad for Korea to be known this way. BTS gave their country precious visibility to the world. MHJ and the National Assembly and k-media don't love their country? All this is a poorly told fiction (sorry for my wording, english is not my native language). Discovering you has given me a lot of peace in the middle of this storm. Thank you!
@jasminelee6149
@jasminelee6149 10 күн бұрын
Storms don't last forever. This too shall pass.
@aysenurg5609
@aysenurg5609 10 күн бұрын
As soon as i heard the trouble old Kakao CEO had about SM stock manipulation during acquisition. i knew they would somewhat cause an issue for HYBE as a payback. I never knew it would be this big and vicious. What a shame.
@madkmadk6809
@madkmadk6809 10 күн бұрын
So far during all of MHJ's media play session, most of the international greater kpop community was still rational about the whole issue. But now I'm seeing comments and contents released by international kpop channels also being biased and they are spreading the documents as if they are hybe executives opinion and not netizen comments collected from internet. Most of the comments by these stans are like "oh hybe obsessed with sm" "hybe obsessed with our faves that's why they are criticizing our fave's heights" "oh i feel so bad to think that some of my fav's besties are hybe idols. How must they feel to know their company thinks like this about their friends". All in all I'm so tired of these biased takes that has seemingly successfully stepped their feet into MHJ's mediaplay tactics. I can't even argue with logic with these people because they immediately label you as a "hybe stan". They are even going around saying "oh belift ceo admitted it's hybe opinion. Look he even apologized about it in the audit. Haha he got caught." I'm so tired of it now. Like do they logically think a conglomerate like hybe has time to sit and type 2000 pages worth of malicious comments about different idols and evaluate their looks? Like would they even have the time to do that? And why would they even do that? Are they some sort of cartoon villain with no other job than to hate on idols like some keyboard warriors? For what reason? A conglomerate won't do meaningless stuff that doesn't generate any profit. But these kpop stans think "jealousy" is more important for hybe than money apparently
@AwakeningWings
@AwakeningWings 10 күн бұрын
Yeah, it's just exhausting at this point. All we can do now is watch it play out.
@spartankingdom879
@spartankingdom879 10 күн бұрын
And it doesn't help when lazy content farm ytb channels just copy each other and make sub 1min shorts that basically say "big bad hybe attacked YOUR faves" without even going through the livestream. content like that is basically insult to anyones intelligence but somehow theres always people who are gullible enough to buy into it. Like they really think the employees get paid to gossip about other artists xD. I can understand people not wanting to watch an entire livestream for this dragged out drama but thinking is too hard now too apparently. I just wanna see how this all ends now
@ayushawasthi6350
@ayushawasthi6350 10 күн бұрын
True they are making it seems like a Avenger fight where SM,Yg etc are good and hybe is the sole monster😂.... They think JEALOUSY is bigger for hybe than MONEY THEY DUNNO HOW CORPORATE WORKS
@Be_kind_and_polite
@Be_kind_and_polite 10 күн бұрын
So what if they call you a HYBE Stan? Only you know your heart! Don’t fall for these bullying tactics!!!
@madkmadk6809
@madkmadk6809 10 күн бұрын
@@Be_kind_and_polite because the moment they call me hybe stan i know that they are not reading any logic i give them. And i know that other people also won't read my logical arguments after they see that someone else already called me a hybe stan. They also don't give me any logic. All they care about is their emotional takes and they keep saying among themselves that hybe artist must be boicotted so that hybe fails because they think that internal report is written by hybe employees and executives. No matter how much i tell them with logic they won't believe that it's netizens comments
@nick0ism
@nick0ism 10 күн бұрын
MHJ and the parties beside her (and behind her) attacked and still attacking our boys (Bangtan OT7). At this point, any group/artist that she attacks will have my support. Any group/artist, mark my word. So I'll be looking for names she targets, and I'll watch and like their videos, I'll listen and like their songs on Spotify. I'll be looking for their works and try to find things to like and love from them. Any victim of my enemy is now my poor little meow meow. (And if those groups/artists she attacked come from one umbrella company, well it's telling more about MHJ than it is about me.)
@joycegoins8221
@joycegoins8221 10 күн бұрын
True I read some comments on someone blog where they were saying that they can’t understand why people still taking up for him. That why I know it was all lies they spreading about HYBE. I believe they thinking bringing down HYBE their artists will get some army on their side.
@miyaorbit
@miyaorbit 9 күн бұрын
@@nick0ism All HYBE groups besides NJ are on that list. Especially Illit and Le Sserafim.
@Ws-wd8er
@Ws-wd8er 10 күн бұрын
정말 어이없는 일이죠 배후가 넘나 선명해 보이죠 진짜 벌받았음 합니다
@Kim9VT
@Kim9VT 10 күн бұрын
민주당 전 원내대표 박홍근 의원 선임비서관 장형우 확정 ~ 민희진에게 녹음 파일 받았던 바로 그 서울신문 기자입니다 장형우는 이제 민주당으로 출근 합니다 😑 박홍근 의원은 카카오모빌리티 사업 확장을 위한 법안을 만든 민주당 국회의원 입니다 박홍근 4선 원내대표 였기 때문에 민희진 민주당 협작은 또 있을 것 같습니다 뉴진스 버니즈의 제3자 고발 변호사도 민주당 보좌관 입니다
@elainesalvador8011
@elainesalvador8011 10 күн бұрын
I can’t believe how people are narrow minded that they get their information from TicTok, Twitter or KZbin without fact checking. This is how Suga’s case was sensationalized. When people realize that what’s presented on social media is often people opinion or creators regurgitating information that they found on social media themselves. Are we that brainwashed to not think for our selves?
@rebeccaavoca9143
@rebeccaavoca9143 10 күн бұрын
I don't know how HYBE is going to solve their issues with MHJ & NJ. because they've been attacked left-right, up & down, front & back, surrounded by enemies and the friends of their enemies, and even in their own house!! people keep on posting negative & malicious rumours online non stop !!
@pazfan999
@pazfan999 10 күн бұрын
And hybe just being soft😂my mind be like TF..move!! Make some action..hybe artist will get the impacts from this drama..😅
@DrAmber2004
@DrAmber2004 10 күн бұрын
@@pazfan999 they are already suing her. And the labels are suing her.
@AwakeningWings
@AwakeningWings 10 күн бұрын
There are now click-bait videos on KZbin of the leaked report. And the comments section of those videos is even worse.
@AwakeningWings
@AwakeningWings 10 күн бұрын
@@pazfan999 I know it's frustrating, but right now it's a good idea to stay patient. HYBE is doing everything they can given the circumstances.
@chesiresays
@chesiresays 10 күн бұрын
They have even accussed hybe of creating Seunghans situation
@trishabala9549
@trishabala9549 10 күн бұрын
I just wish PPL didn't blindly trust these And even if so at least there shld not be any kind of hate train towards any fellow artist they don't deserve this plzz .. BTS have a strong fandom but the new grps don't so I am scared it will affect them at the end
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 10 күн бұрын
If Illit survives this - I hope so - they may one day step into BTS legacy for female artists/Idols. Sure sounds similar to what BTS members suffered from.
@beth5870
@beth5870 10 күн бұрын
It is still amazing to me that MHJ has this much influence. It makes me wonder what she did to get it.
@6468May
@6468May 10 күн бұрын
Exactly
@rebeccaavoca9143
@rebeccaavoca9143 10 күн бұрын
KAKAO & CORRUPT POLICE, POLITICIANS, K-MEDIA, INFLUENCERS, OTHER GROUP FANDOMS THAT ANTI-HYBE, AND THE LIST GOES ON .. .. .. . .
@lealarsen2017
@lealarsen2017 10 күн бұрын
i think many people who feel threatened by hybes quick rise in success will jump on this hate train without care what is the truth or not. all they want is their own company to do well. so if they can split up army and make them come and support their own artist instead by making hybe the bad guy than it´s a win for them. so it is not just about mhj power they are using her fight for their own gain
@lealarsen2017
@lealarsen2017 10 күн бұрын
if you have seen kpop is not doing to great and YG was actually really bad also sm they have sold many of their assents hybe tried to buy sm. this is because hybe came and took all their fans before it was the big 3 now it is the big 4 with hybe at the top. so who is to gain from all of this? the old in korea has the power so long time companies dont want a new rival. so they are willing to stand togehter to take hybe down that is what is happening
@KsenijaHajdu-x3g
@KsenijaHajdu-x3g 10 күн бұрын
Mogoče se je prodala!
@miyamuni
@miyamuni 10 күн бұрын
It's my understanding that the statements in the leaked document are not HYBE's sentiments, but data they have collected from doing market research that was gathered from online communities. Fans of the groups mentioned are upset at HYBE, but they should really be upset at how nasty fans can be when talking about each other's favorite idols. This document holds a mirror up to the K-pop community.
@elainesalvador8011
@elainesalvador8011 10 күн бұрын
Very nicely said
@miyamuni
@miyamuni 9 күн бұрын
@@elainesalvador8011 Thank you. Someone on Reddit said the same thing and they put it in a much better way than I did.
@elainesalvador8011
@elainesalvador8011 9 күн бұрын
@@miyamuni no you hit all the right points. People have quickly forgotten about Suli, Guhara and Lee Sun-Kyun, these individuals were receiving false reports about them without the public taking a step back to fact check the information being presented by social media/media. I could easily post any information about a specific person and if enough people are interested, that information would spread like a virus!
@PoojaThakur-b6w
@PoojaThakur-b6w 4 күн бұрын
Only 30-40 percent was collected from online,rest are their own thoughts,after getting caught,hybe has officially accepted it and also apologized for it
@kittentree198
@kittentree198 10 күн бұрын
I’m so glad you addressed this. Reddit’s kpop forums are boiling over with posts about how awful this is, how awful HYBE is, how angry SK general public is, how unprofessional it was to include comments from DC Inside (apparently a known incel community?), how unprofessional the report is and can’t possibly be an industry standard, how dare anyone suggest that the company of THEIR favorites does the same because it’s only HYBE that got caught, etc etc. I’ve given up trying to make sense of it. What they also don’t seem to understand is that these other companies are probably watching with bated breath because everything that is happening is establishing precedent for how all the companies will be able to operate.
@kinetic3971
@kinetic3971 10 күн бұрын
Yup. Whatever happens to hybe will effect them as well. They are in the same boat.
@alagusangavi2221
@alagusangavi2221 10 күн бұрын
On june it proven that sm hier a popular company to write hate comments on hybe artists by ten Asia but that was not loud all big 3 stan quite but now they are so loud 🤢
@GrumpyKay
@GrumpyKay 10 күн бұрын
The fact that people are still falling for MHJ BS exposes how easy these kpop fans are at being manipulated. This is all a pattern by MHJ. Anytime her plan screws up and she is getting backlash, she dumps something new and kpop fans go crazy and just believe it and spread it. Only to later get disproven by facts and they look so freaking stupid. Everytime they fall for it. Its like they lack critical thinking. I pity our future dealing with such easy to manipulate people when they become older adults and are running the world.
@ayushawasthi6350
@ayushawasthi6350 10 күн бұрын
@@GrumpyKay they're either kids .... They don't know how corporate works... Consumer reviews about other companies are a necessity... And yg etc all of these companies have to do this.... Let the dogs keep barking
@kittentree198
@kittentree198 10 күн бұрын
@@GrumpyKay unfortunately, there will always be and already are ppl like that, just like MHJ swayed by headlines when the actual article says nothing.
@배기진-x4h
@배기진-x4h 10 күн бұрын
팀버니즈의 정체를 밝혀야 합니다. 앞으로 사내 문건은 계속 유출될것이며, 멍청한 대중은 그것을 믿고, 악플로 가세할것입니다.
@1234csw
@1234csw 10 күн бұрын
하이브 팬덤 연합이란 성명문을 처음으로 발견해 몇몇 아미분들과 커뮤니티에 퍼트렸어요.다행히.그들은 사과 성명문을 냈고 해프닝으로 끝났지만,하이브가 법적대응을 해주길 바랍니다
@Emgee78
@Emgee78 10 күн бұрын
The HYBE Affiliated Fandom Alliance! LOL it sounds so pompous!
@sweetverovero
@sweetverovero 10 күн бұрын
>Actually it depends on how we see the current situation. Is it from the drama aspect or is this their chess game. If we look from the if point of view of the drama that happened, we only see Hybe's weakness which is always silent and they don't say anything when they are blamed and why don't they solve the problem immediately because people who claim to be NJ and MHJ fans keep attacking and attacking. >But if we look at it from Hybe's side, it seems like they take the leadership theory of several figures such as Sun Tzu, Alexander the Great and etc. They emphasize to slowly but surely make their enemies / friends of their enemies can work together with them as long as they have the same interests. To face the enemy, they would rather look weak than look strong, (this theory is in Sun Tzu) the weaker they look, the more the enemies show their tricks, but actually Hybe has weapons to collect evidence Hybe uses the pressure from the Council Assembly to prove something in the audit that the Council Assembly emphasizes. The SK government system that relies on conglomerates is also still Hybe's strength >From the beginning Hybe never considered MHJ as an enemy but this is a betrayal from MHJ, where Hybe knows MHJ's tricks and the people behind it. From the beginning of Hybe's feud with MHJ, Hybe still opened the opportunity for NJ to side with Hybe with a good opportunity, but they were already filled with MHJ's narrative until they went this far. So it is possible that Hybe will change course, Currently Hybe is looking at opportunities in other GG. >Hybe's CEO said that actually there is still a lot of evidence to be proven and this journey is still long. So let's just wait and see Will NJ and MHJ be retained by Hybe? Idk but Hybe has its own way for people who make a mess to pay for the mess they made using Hybe's way
@Nicholi86
@Nicholi86 10 күн бұрын
Some may not be aware of this, but Hybe has in-house psychologists. Group members' mental health is being taken care of. Im not worried about my faves. I think they will be fine. I want Hybe to continue moving by the book and do what they need to do.
@whk3120
@whk3120 10 күн бұрын
I think we need it too lol, this is stressful and some positive affirmations and vibes can recharge our batteries
@jollybee5220
@jollybee5220 9 күн бұрын
say what now? lol
@Nicholi86
@Nicholi86 7 күн бұрын
@jollybee5220 Yes. Articles have come out about this. I've seen the translations on Twitter.
@whk3120
@whk3120 7 күн бұрын
@@Nicholi86 yes, I've seen those articles too
@cuteme456
@cuteme456 10 күн бұрын
The language of this leaked document makes it so clear where it is from . The demand by such and such a date is Mhj.she is always demanding something by a particular date. Remember NJ video they demanded something by the 25th. Mhj is having those business dinner meetings with those journalists and politicians. I am pretty sure she is having NJ at those dinners. Smiling in those old men faces and giving them bambi eyes.
@MoonstoneStarChaser
@MoonstoneStarChaser 10 күн бұрын
The National Assembly should be indicted on Conspiracy charges. Conspiring to damage a South Korean Corporation. Investigations into Hanni’s dodgy allegations at the Assembly and the “ interrogation” of the Hybe CEO. Go hard!
@elizabethbesco4758
@elizabethbesco4758 10 күн бұрын
The ship builder and Samsung used NJ to cover their part in under handed activities. These billionaires seem dog dirty with no moral center. Hybe and Big Hit need to move to the US tomorrow.( maybe Jin and Jhope are house hunting for the 7 already)
@AnnAnnAnn
@AnnAnnAnn 10 күн бұрын
in courts, you can't even present documents that obtained illegally but in their national assembly the law maker is the one showed these illegally obtained leaked internal documents ....what a joke
@mo-music9077
@mo-music9077 10 күн бұрын
The whole assembly is a great mess at showing off their peddling with Hanni is a crime, just read that some are gonna caught now because of money and corruption at this moment. As I said before they are killing their own credibilaty and creating a downfall like 1999. The economical backlash will be major. Meanwhile Kakao is trying to get foot in North America. Meanwhile is the case SA coverup MHJ out of sight? I hope netizens come to their senses and see what those malicious people are doing.
@clairdelunek
@clairdelunek 10 күн бұрын
법적인 처벌 꼭 받아야합니다 향후 있을 민씨와의 소송에서도 유리하게 사용되었으면 좋겠어요 MHJ and her crazy team have to be punished publicly
@Hajimaaaa613
@Hajimaaaa613 10 күн бұрын
Personally I hope HYBE continues to do what they have been doing and handle things quietly through the courts. Its not the most exciting option but it's the most reasonable one. As fans what we can do is not engage with the negativity and just focus on the artists and their work. Most of the groups have comebacks and schedules planned so we have plenty to keep us busy.
@Emgee78
@Emgee78 10 күн бұрын
Same. I think it's because MHJ is making the whole thing more of a circus and looking like she has the media in the palm of her hand, fans are frustrated and impatient for HYBE to strike back the minute she or her minions make any noise. But from what I've observed, HYBE conducts their legal maneuvering silently. They never show their hand, and only drop an update on proceedings every blue moon. I get frustrated too, because I'm a Moa and I enjoy other HYBE groups like BTS, LSF, and ILLIT, and while BTS and Army can take care of themselves (they're battle-hardened and have the best researchers and online detectives, in my opinion) LSF and ILLIT have been struggling with hate trains this entire year. At least a majority of Fearnots and GLLITs have banded together in support, and unfortunately shared trauma.
@Hajimaaaa613
@Hajimaaaa613 10 күн бұрын
@Emgee78 it is so unfair that relatively new groups like ILLIT and LSF are being relentlessly attacked and empathize with their fans. I enjoy both groups too and have been supporting them by streaming as my way of showing solidarity. I also encourage ppl to make good use of the block button. After the Suga incident I've blocked the majority of kpop YT channels and stay off Twitter.
@hafsah_alee
@hafsah_alee 10 күн бұрын
Honestly I’m ready to be called a company Stan, cuz if looking at things logically and not following the crowd means being a HYBE stan…then I am😀
@6468May
@6468May 10 күн бұрын
Me too 😊
@rebeccaavoca9143
@rebeccaavoca9143 10 күн бұрын
STAY STRONG!!
@Rav3n24k
@Rav3n24k 10 күн бұрын
@@hafsah_alee frfr
@stephaniemathurin473
@stephaniemathurin473 10 күн бұрын
Me tooo❤
@Emgee78
@Emgee78 10 күн бұрын
Already getting that on Reddit, but I don't give a crap.
@wildlotus4339
@wildlotus4339 10 күн бұрын
Ikr. Hybe should hire detective to find the culprit and sue them. It has been happening from Kim Garam case.
@lola.o.
@lola.o. 10 күн бұрын
this feels like a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" kind of situation. no matter what action hybe takes, there will be criticism and hate. there's also the fact that belift's ceo was made to promise that hybe won't take action against the party that leaked it, so i don't know if threatening legal action after that would have consequences. and making a statement DOES bring more attention to it. all these approaches have their own benefits and drawbacks. i heard that this didn't really make much news on the korean side (i don't know if that's true) but even if it's making waves on the international side, things like this blow over pretty quickly. so maybe silence could be a reasonable approach, but that's dependent on if it actually dies down. to be honest, nothing that's happening right now seems as bad as when the yoongi scooter incident happened back in august (to me, personally). that was several weeks of nonstop hate and slander, and now it's barely talked about. if we can get past that, i think we can get past anything else.
@anneverwey1714
@anneverwey1714 10 күн бұрын
It’s so obviously a targeted attack that anyone that actually believes it would have to be an id|ot. If it wasn’t damaging artist’s reputation it could be a badly acted k-drama.
@kittentree198
@kittentree198 10 күн бұрын
This whole thing is worse than a kdrama. It feels like a makjang daily drama. I tried explaining this all to my husband and felt like I needed a whiteboard, string and footnotes to make it make sense 😂
@nicolecmke
@nicolecmke 10 күн бұрын
Oh! You better believe this will at least be a movie! MHJ said she's releasing a documentary when it's over. I hope they'll be sure to include an interview from her prison cell.
@lealarsen2017
@lealarsen2017 10 күн бұрын
Army all we can do now is stand togehter and keep streaming and buying BTS. shareholders dont care about all of this noise if the consumers still buy the product. just 7 month until BTS is 7 again. no matter if you are a solo or not it will not give your fave any advantages in success if Hybe falls.
@eileencritchley4630
@eileencritchley4630 10 күн бұрын
Correct as a share holder I don't give a dam about the noise I'm looking at spread sheets, revenue income gross/net profit and loss trends etc. I leave the company lawyers to deal with any legal issues and I don't need to know what they are doing until it happens neither do I want those who they'll be going after in the courts to know what HYBE is planning.
@Anna-mk9ib
@Anna-mk9ib 10 күн бұрын
As someone who has worked in rnd, we also take competitor products, analyze how they are received by consumers, whether the visuals are good, the product quality is good, the benefits, the consumer satisfaction, the product reach to consumers, how they do promotions, impressive service/experience with/using the product, this can be an evaluation to improve performance and predict/resolve if problems arise, this can also be applied in Kpop, because Kpop changes rapidly .... Sorry for my poor english 🙏🏻
@PETITROSE-fr7qn
@PETITROSE-fr7qn 10 күн бұрын
Translate plz😊 저는 조금 다르게 생각합니다. 하이브는 다른 아티스트들의 악성 게시물을 조사했습니다. 하이브는 디씨인사이드 또는 더쿠라는 인터넷 커뮤니티에서 조사했는데 이 사이트는 악성팬들이 많기로 유명한 곳입니다. 대부분 아이돌들의 논란이 이 사이트들에서 시작됩니다. 그런데 하이브는 악성 팬이 많은 곳에서 자료조사를 하여 다른 그룹의 약점을 파악했습니다. 그리고 다른 그룹의 약점을 이용하여 깎아내리려고 하였습니다. 그냥 대중의 의견을 살피는 것과는 다른 문제입니다. 이 보고서에는 대중의 시선 뿐만 아니라 하이브의 분석이 섞여 있습니다. 하이브는 하이브의 아티스트들에 대한 지적을 살피려고 한 것이 아니고 다른 아티스트들의 약점을 잡으려고 한 것입니다.😢 또 어떤 아티스트를 어떤 방식으로 공격할지에 대한 내용도 담겨있습니다. 솔직히 한국 팬들보다 해외팬들이 더 논란 것 같아요. 한국 팬들은 하이브가 언론플레이를 한다는 건 알고 있었지만 증거가 없어서 답답한 마음이었습니다. 하이브를 지지하는 한국 댓글들은 거의 바이럴 업체이거나 하이브의 주가를 올리기 위한 작전입니다. 한국에서는 인터넷이 아닌 현실에서 하이브를 지지하면 이상한 사람으로 생각할 정도로 하이브의 신뢰가 떨어졌습니다. 현실에서 한국사람들은 관심이 없거나 중립이거나 민희진을 지지합니다.
@Rav3n24k
@Rav3n24k 10 күн бұрын
Exactly in America we call it a consumer report in business and does exactly what you are describing
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 10 күн бұрын
Read an article on Koreaboo about 3 "Insider" (really?) comments and in SK it seems they "lie" to their superiors to make everything look far better than it is. Reminds me of the reaction to the Sewol desaster while it was happening with "similar" results. It's just another reason why HYBE is more successfull than the labels those "insiders" are working for.
@Anna-mk9ib
@Anna-mk9ib 10 күн бұрын
@@Rav3n24k yeah, korean entertainment trains trainees to become artists even from gen 1 and 2 they are called products of their company, and the cycle continues until the newest gen is now a derivative (traditional) of the old system, but bts differentiates themselves from the old system and hybe becomes the new center of kpop and k entertainment, some will feel threatened by the changes in kpop
@Anna-mk9ib
@Anna-mk9ib 10 күн бұрын
@@ruthfischer7615 hybe knows they can put aside / number 2 the korean market and chase the usa market as global or japan as asia, but no.. what i see is they are trying to fix the old system that still exists such as using connections, news that is not in accordance with the facts, the use of headlines like arrogance but also avoiding public attention on things they should not know, i am actually annoyed to see hybe acting according to the book, i am waiting for legal evidence that they will release, but i also hope hybe will also retaliate cruelly for the suffering they have endured as well as for their artists, for now they are like using a poker face but have a joker in the legal game that is running
@alazycalm
@alazycalm 10 күн бұрын
I think SK government target at hybe since 2022 bts busan concert becoz they couldn't control bts. remembered they announced the enlistment plan on their own wills not playing with the SK politicians, SKG were really mad about this. SKG lowered the requirements for corporate audit from 10T to 5T just to check on the private company in hybe aka bighit. (i guess) as long as they cannot find anything suspicious in bh, they do the ulitmate and stupid moves to disclose the market research to lit up the netizens so as to pull down the corporate values. not suprise if skg shaked hands w/big3
@alkim1519
@alkim1519 10 күн бұрын
Eso viene de antes de Busan. Solo hagan un poco de memoria.
@rebeccaavoca9143
@rebeccaavoca9143 10 күн бұрын
yes, its already started since the new president took over, and he wanted BTS to performed on his inauguration day. HYBE refused, after that troubles always follow them .. ..being forced to do free BUSAN concert from their own pocket (IMAGINE THAT!!), . .
@alazycalm
@alazycalm 10 күн бұрын
@@rebeccaavoca9143 definitely, so I'm counting the end day of that president and his party coz no re-election, 3 years to go. but what I thinking about is when bts 2025 cb, nothing to fear 😎8 months to go
@ayushawasthi6350
@ayushawasthi6350 10 күн бұрын
True when President moon was there it was easy for them... Ironically the new president and Mhj joined the country's supremacy and her as the CEO around the same time haha
@mo-music9077
@mo-music9077 10 күн бұрын
​he was the prosecutor of the burning sun case?
@samanthamay9779
@samanthamay9779 10 күн бұрын
So all the Hybe executives must resign and who will run Hybe... MHJ?? 😂😂😂😂 Comic Show...
@annabiancadajao7475
@annabiancadajao7475 10 күн бұрын
MHJ and its supporting politicians are the real culprit on this.. New Jeans is obviously being used. Korean politics is known to be corrupt and somewhat unfair. This should not be happening to entertainment industry. Imagine they can target a big company.. Small player are even vulnerable and I'm pretty sure there are alot of same scenario that small players could not defend themselves. MHJ should be punished for all her wrong doings..
@KsenijaHajdu-x3g
@KsenijaHajdu-x3g 10 күн бұрын
@@annabiancadajao7475 Če bo Min Heejin kaznovana, bom doma naredila "žur", čeprav jih imam krepko čez 60 let!
@whk3120
@whk3120 10 күн бұрын
Exactly, it like a murder, who will benefit the most is the culprit
@Sinlock-1313
@Sinlock-1313 10 күн бұрын
@@annabiancadajao7475 New jeans aren't being used. They're accomplices. They knew these attacks were coming so they have no fear of anyone knowing that HYBE is playing defense while mommy MHJ attacks. Can you imagine any other idol disrespecting the chairman and CEO of their company with a smirk on their face like Hanni did?
@ystrw
@ystrw 10 күн бұрын
@@Sinlock-1313 And bragging about how she manipulated the media and assemblymen by pretending to cry? I wish someone would replay that live for the assembly, they might actually learn something from it.
@MOARMYForyou
@MOARMYForyou 10 күн бұрын
For those who are accusing Hybe: First of all I would suggest you to watch the real audit not the lies these creators are making And secondly the dragging of other groups (Riize's Seunghan, TXT's Soobin, Lesserafim's Garam, etc) was due to a user called 'pannchoa' who is related to MHJ
@bqanto
@bqanto 10 күн бұрын
What is the source of this info about pannchoa?
@alleytint
@alleytint 10 күн бұрын
do you have any information on how many hybe artists are present in this analysis document?? how many groups???
@bqanto
@bqanto 9 күн бұрын
@@alleytint All the artists. If there are artists from other labels, obviously all the more reason there will be all Hybe artists.
@esmeraldasoliano7073
@esmeraldasoliano7073 10 күн бұрын
Something has to be done. Mhj is getting too much n its disgusting n so embarrassing that those politicians are acting in this way against HYBE. Becos of Hybe n thei r artistes.. SK has had tons of publicity etc etc. but the NEGATIVITY OF THE MEDIA N CHILDISH BIAS POLITICIANS.. They will be the downfall of SK tourism..n ppl are starting to disrespect them
@sin-kpop
@sin-kpop 10 күн бұрын
Hybe slowly needs to do something publicly because as much as I want to praise them doing their thing in the background by the books, all artists under Hybe are suffering more and more from what's going on recently. No matter if there's verified proof or if it's possibly even real, this thing is spreading like wildfire everywhere on social media. Certain idols even are receiving targetted hate again (e. g. Wonhee because some people are saying Hybe was planning to make her a second Wonyoung). I'm no expert. But something has to be done publicly and fast.
@kanohane
@kanohane 10 күн бұрын
Issue is will anything public ruin the ongoing investigation? If so..HYBE's hands are tied for now
@sin-kpop
@sin-kpop 10 күн бұрын
@@kanohane Yeah it's really a balancing act. I personally don't know what the right way is but it's getting frustrating to watch several fandoms (more and more by the way) start attacking groups you love because of the "enemy" being so loud and pushing their narrative through all available communication channels, no matter if it's true or false information.
@rebeccaavoca9143
@rebeccaavoca9143 10 күн бұрын
SLANDER AGAINST HYBE ALL OVER THE MEDIA & ONLINE PLATFORMS ARE TOOOOOO MUCH NOW!!!
@trentonpower1823
@trentonpower1823 10 күн бұрын
@@sin-kpop they don't operate by the book
@lealarsen2017
@lealarsen2017 10 күн бұрын
@@sin-kpop same it is so frustrating and i i too hope hybe will show hardcore proof to shut this whole thing down. however this is the whole entertainment industry against hybe they all want what they have. so everyone will do what they can to blow on this hate no matter if it is true or not that is what mhj is feeding on right now. i think the hate will die down eventually when they see it has no effect on hybe artist. the biggest issue is the youngest artist who dont have a strong fanbase yet.
@rosebooysen1693
@rosebooysen1693 10 күн бұрын
Mhj is part of it😭her 1945 plan is working strong
@Pandada123
@Pandada123 10 күн бұрын
That’s why MHJ’s shaman was confident that said within 3 years can get everything done, take over Ador and Ruin Hybe… she had been preparing a big media war, the most strong propaganda is that”Hybe destroys Kpop”😂
@rosebooysen1693
@rosebooysen1693 10 күн бұрын
@@Pandada123 she'll fail
@KsenijaHajdu-x3g
@KsenijaHajdu-x3g 10 күн бұрын
@@Pandada123 Če se ne motim je šaman tudi napovedal njen padec v mesecu marcu 2025! Treba bo počakati, če se bo to res zgodilo. To se pravi še 5 mesecev, uf daleč je to!
@Emgee78
@Emgee78 10 күн бұрын
@@KsenijaHajdu-x3g Y'all are giving that shaman more credit than they're worth.
@OT7Armymom
@OT7Armymom 10 күн бұрын
I remember the white paper project that about 20 Armys did and set the media in Korea and the USA media straight with facts about the war between Korea and Japan all because of a shirt Celebrating Independence in Korea. Just think what we can do with this mess of misinformation. Every action has a consequence to it, good or bad.
@mami11420
@mami11420 10 күн бұрын
I was just thinking of this the other day.. like can we come together and do this again but with facts about all this? Facts that can’t be distorted or manipulated. It might be helpful.. might be!
@OT7Armymom
@OT7Armymom 10 күн бұрын
@mami11420 I totally agree we need our army detectives on this . I'm sure we can shed more light on this. I would not be surprised if it goes all the way up to the blue house. And expose everyone she is in bed with figuratively speaking( trying to give the benefit of the doubt on that one). Send it to every media. 💜🤟
@MidnightxCrow
@MidnightxCrow 10 күн бұрын
​@@OT7Armymomthe issue is that the real big Army accounts who used to do this and explain things to other Army went on hiatus and that's why we are in this whole mess..... don't think they are coming back until BTS is back as 7
@OT7Armymom
@OT7Armymom 10 күн бұрын
@MidnightxCrow wow did not know that. I keep saying to myself that the truth will come out and trust BTS. I believe the rest of this year and next is all about truth showing itself. I'm praying 🙏 the full-blown pitcher of what she has done and doing will be revealed. 💜🤟
@bqanto
@bqanto 10 күн бұрын
I think that the managers of all Hybe groups have spoken frankly to the idols to encourage them to hold firm, to ignore the gossip, explaining the mechanism of these smear campaigns and their goal. Hybe idols are always personally involved in important matters regarding their careers, they are not abandoned to themselves.
@bourjoism3917
@bourjoism3917 10 күн бұрын
All these noises are only in Korea since there is nothing else…HYBE is busy doing what they have to do be mindful being demure but following their principles
@MikiBorahae
@MikiBorahae 10 күн бұрын
This is no joke. This is a big issue and possibly dangerous. If they can hack and leak documents. They could hurt the artist. I remember when NamJun and Jungkook's addresses and personal information leaked. This is so messed up. I hope they stablish a password and member code to anyone who access any computer and information. Thats the only way their database could find out who entered and used a computer, files, etc.
@healing_junie5619
@healing_junie5619 10 күн бұрын
what statement?? moa didn't even have the slightest idea. we have a comeback to focused on 😅
@madkmadk6809
@madkmadk6809 10 күн бұрын
The korean team bunnies and some toxic solo stans of txt members are pretending to be K moas and and releasing joint statements
@lealarsen2017
@lealarsen2017 10 күн бұрын
to me hybe is the only adult in this whole mess.. i can´t understand how dumb people are. every agency and company in korea and the world do an analysis of competitions and their brand evaluation. i work collecting and monitoring our competitions comment as well as out own negative and positive review of our products. and for an agency the idols is a product or asset and they are a brand they want to sell. so this is just normal. the only people who see anything wrong with this rapport has never worked at a company. so this whole thing is only to plant doubt in young peoples mind so they will stop supporting hybe artist. it does not matter if it is true or not. but what angers me the most is that the assembly and politicians and newspapers work together to create this confusing.. i have never seen something like that before. normally newspapers and especially the law should work impartial. they should not take sides and they would never ever bring up such a lame claim. korea is a joke. i always though dramas was exaggerated but it´s all true. everyone can be bought. people can´t think for themself without being looked down on. korea is all about controlling peoples minds so if everyone hates hype other people will think that they should too. they dont even think about doing their own research and stand up to people. it´s better to lay low and follow each other. it is the same in north korea, sk is just disguised as free will.
@AwakeningWings
@AwakeningWings 10 күн бұрын
A bit like the book "1984" and books similar to this one. Like 1985 (Burgess novel), Brave New World, Animal Farm, etc.
@Ag-eq4ow
@Ag-eq4ow 10 күн бұрын
Hybe is an adult but kpop fans are not !! Kpop consumer are mostly kids ..few adults fans understanding the situation is not helping I fear and then we have these big 3 anti bts/hybe adding fuel to it and waiting for hybe downfall .These kpop fans are all mostly kids that follow any headlines ..mhj is soo aware about how to manipulate the news and both int and Korean media.🤦
@rosiec4729
@rosiec4729 10 күн бұрын
I would like for Hybe to take legal action!!!
@lindaMinister
@lindaMinister 10 күн бұрын
There a gag order by the national assembly though so no...
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 10 күн бұрын
They already are. Unfortunately those take months. It's a very slow game on their side and it needs to be. I just hope that they hire more therapists/mental health specialists to take care of their personal/artists/trainees.
@eileencritchley4630
@eileencritchley4630 10 күн бұрын
What make's you think they are not taking legal action, of course they'll be taking legal action but you don't tell your enemy you are taking legal action if fact you keep your mouth shut no press releases, no statements, you work in silence then bam when everything it legally ready you hit the enemy with it. HYBE will not and should never for warn the enemy.
@MHM6081
@MHM6081 10 күн бұрын
That's why I trust you over the other KZbinrs and even alot of the "reputable" media outlets. You let me know what source is unverifiable and disregard it. Why confuse the narrative with unsubtantiated information? Am I right? To address this issue, I would stay silent? If they say something, it would make it more of a big deal, prolonging public interest. Edit: I read the comments in this video. Since I'm not on any socials I didn't realize the pervasive impact, so I revise my opinion. Statement and sue Sorry this news ruined your weekend. I also just want to enjoy the music and the artists who make the music, but I want to stay on the know. Even when I don't pay attention, I end up absorbing the common sentiment and I don't want that sentiment to be misinformed.
@lilmeowmeow9283
@lilmeowmeow9283 9 күн бұрын
Guys i really hope all the fandoms under hybe (except toxic tokkis ofc) team up to stand with hybe. I hate hybe too about how they overwork enha, txt etc...but this is a threatening situation.If hybe gets damaged our artists under hybe get damaged too. Today mhj will frame hybe wrote this tmrw she would even frame artists under hybe said this and said that causing major fanwars. So please let's all unite for how we did for seunghan and spread awareness to more people about how this whole thing was an attack by that h@g mhj
@bqanto
@bqanto 9 күн бұрын
Beware. This accusation is part of traditional Korean anti-label rhetoric. They want a villain because the K-pop universe for them is a big role-playing game, a drama, a fanfiction. They will never give up on carrying on the narrative that the label mistreats idols and they are there to protect them, love them and adore them... Hybe artists are not overcharged, they set the schedule together with the staff. Each of those concerts and fansigns means money to them, the possibility of being millionaires and maybe becoming, as Suga said of himself, "the savior of the family".
@lilmeowmeow9283
@lilmeowmeow9283 9 күн бұрын
@@bqanto thank you for your msg
@bqanto
@bqanto 8 күн бұрын
I would like to add that complaining about too much work is something that all workers in the world do, and even housewives. Students also complain about too much studying, just as everyone complains about their family members, even if they love them. It's just a vent. Just a few days ago Jin said in an interview that, if he could tell his younger self something, he would tell him not to complain about working too much (interview in Vogue or GQ).
@NamHar7n
@NamHar7n 10 күн бұрын
BTS does not want us to worry about this. They want us to be happy and enjoy their music. Trust them. All will be revealed in the end. 💜
@lanagrant9498
@lanagrant9498 10 күн бұрын
I am just gonna say this. It is my opinion and only that. Why do you think is has been so easy for Min and her minions to attack HYBE???? Its because if you go through a lot of comments from various platforms you will see we stand only BTS, only Illit, only Txt and so on. BUT WE DON'T STAND HYBE. So therefore you are making the rest of the public feel as if HYBE falls tomorrow then who cares. Well you will care because this will affect all those groups and all that staff that have been working hard to accomplish their dreams and goals and yes the domino effect will happen and you would have contributed. Stop giving Min and the media and these so call government officials power. You don't have to stand HYBE but you also don't need to be the load that breaks it's back. The enemy of my enemy is my friend even if it is to win the war.
@sharonlahaye5803
@sharonlahaye5803 10 күн бұрын
I believe that MHJ is being used by a much more powerful and well-financed entity. When you read the texts between her and the “shaman” (where’s this shaman btw), it’s obvious that there was a very well-orchestrated plan given to this shaman. Someone very powerful wants to end Hybe and BTS. Going after other fanbases, haters and the like is ignoring the puppet master.
@lanagrant9498
@lanagrant9498 10 күн бұрын
@@sharonlahaye5803 this is why at a time like this we should stand united. All fandom under HYBE. ARMY is the strongest. The same way how so call bunnies to provoked the assembly to do an Audit on hani's (ignore her) claims is the same way all of HYBE other artist fandoms can unite together and put an end to this craziness. These artist are very young in this business and we have to stand together to protect all of them not just BTS. That old saying united we stand, divided we fall. 'What if' will be too late.
@MoonstoneStarChaser
@MoonstoneStarChaser 10 күн бұрын
@@sharonlahaye5803agreed
@MoonstoneStarChaser
@MoonstoneStarChaser 10 күн бұрын
@@lanagrant9498Agreed. Action !
@kimo3800
@kimo3800 10 күн бұрын
​@lanagrant9498 thank you! Over on Twitter a lot of big accounts are basically like "f" these other groups, "f" Hybe and it's baffling b/c these other groups and Hybe are being attacked b/c of the mold that was broken by Big Hit and Bangtan! Big Hit did to Sm what Hybe threatens to do to Kakao without the methods of cheating. I understood MHJ's "depression for 10 years" comment loud and clear. They've been fighting dirty since the days of Bangtan vs Exo but their voices been successful, so now they're attempting to involve all of K-Pop. I get that NJs makes it hard to trust anyone else but none of those groups under Hybe labels deserve any of this!
@mahwishiqbal252
@mahwishiqbal252 10 күн бұрын
The stir that has been caused by the audit is more than what I expected I am seeing channels having over 150k (not just one channel) just posting the compilation of comments screenshot or making videos saying hybe said those words about the artists Some channels are talking about how hybe has mocked stray kids' changbin's height and so many other groups The rumours are spreading like wildfire They do not want to research at all The more I hope that things will get better it keeps getting worse With everything happening right now I am afraid min hee jin's plan is working out some way or the other I personally feel scenario 2: silence will not be a good option because most fandoms demand transparency and answers or they will believe only the negative Hoping for hybe to gather evidences and take action
@kittentree198
@kittentree198 10 күн бұрын
I’ve seen this too. I almost wish they hadn’t consolidated the comments in their report and instead left account names and which website it was collected from visible. The consolidation/summarization part makes it easier for lazy misinterpretation.
@MidnightxCrow
@MidnightxCrow 10 күн бұрын
​@@kittentree198you should keep in mind we still don't even know whether that report is true or not, like with that screenshot in the audit that was edited to only display the bad comments , the leaked supposed report might be either fake since we have no source or it might have been manipulated with them removing what they want to make it easier to misinterpret especially by dumb k-pop fans
@alleytint
@alleytint 10 күн бұрын
​@@kittentree198 the point is that there is a possibility that they would not find the comments if they were to search, they would be reported and they would disappear or the person would delete them. they could lose the evidence/comments
@charzemc
@charzemc 10 күн бұрын
MHJ wasn't fired by Hybe, the shareholders made a fiscal decision. So Mean hee jin is attacking the shareholders of Hybe & ador also. How many enemies does this woman want to make? Seems to be an ununtelligent move.
@UsuiTakumi-ff9rc
@UsuiTakumi-ff9rc 10 күн бұрын
nah that shaman must be still giving mhj advices and guidance with usual witchcraft practicals behind the doors her plan is going strong someone need to put a period (.) to this
@Be_kind_and_polite
@Be_kind_and_polite 10 күн бұрын
Let’s trend #findtheshaman
@prettypark2115
@prettypark2115 10 күн бұрын
Just ignored them Let stay focus on BTS and their comeback
@SimonaGrandihoseky73
@SimonaGrandihoseky73 10 күн бұрын
I think Hybe know who is behind and the strategy they use, and of course that they fight back, but I think Hybe know the silence is the batter way, no give back what they do, and I'm sure they have already planning everything for win in silence. For some reason, I trust in Hybe more now then before, more media MHJ and heater try to make down Hybe more I believe in Bang Si Hyuk. Sorry for my bad English isn't my first language. Thank you for your hard job. An Italian Army
@bqanto
@bqanto 9 күн бұрын
Sono perfettamente d'accordo con te.
@Westerneve
@Westerneve 10 күн бұрын
Nowadays people didn't have mind to think themselves. They just think with others mind and hating on hybe. Without any proofs.
@JoyFrancisco-rx4ye
@JoyFrancisco-rx4ye 10 күн бұрын
It's just funny and infuriating because the fans of grps that were disbanded before hybe existed saying that hybe was the reason why they disbanded through creating rumours about that specific grps 😅 My wish of for hybe to do something about this ASAP because I just want a peaceful comeback for tubatu and moas
@ajiluna
@ajiluna 10 күн бұрын
아미나 모아나 다른 팬덤들을 왜 지들이 대변하고 자빠졌답니까? 아미의 한 명으로 전혀 동의하지 않는데 난 아미가 아니랍니까? 죽기 살기로 해 보세요. 하이브는 그럼에도 냉정하게 증거 수집하고 원칙에 따라서 대응할 테니. 자료도 사건들도 많은 건 알겠지만, 조금만 더 서두르면 좋겠네요. 진짜 피곤하고 짜증나고 한심합니다. 동조하고 희열을 느끼는 무리는 다 그쪽 사람들이나 관종 정치가들, 언론인들 밖에 없는데. 일반 사람들이나 뉴진스, SM의 몇몇 팬덤 이외의 모든 팬덤들은 믿지 않아요. 또 쌩쇼하고 있네, 라고 생각하거나 아예 관심도 없어요. 가처분 기각된다고 해도 항소하고 또 항소할 거고, 판사가 돈 먹었네, 판사가 하이브 측에세 심은 사람이네 등등 이제 판사들 좌표 찍으며 공격할거고. 유치하고 저급하기 짝이 없는 무리입니다. 모든게 다 결론 나려면 몇 년 걸릴 거라는건 알지만, 부디 2025년 6월 내로 일부라도 결론나면 좋겠네요.
@beth5870
@beth5870 10 күн бұрын
They do need something, that is for sure.
@PETITROSE-fr7qn
@PETITROSE-fr7qn 10 күн бұрын
@ajiluna 하이브는 이미 한국에서 신뢰를 잃었습니다. 최근 하이브의 잘못이 너무 많이 알려졌습니다. 1.하이브는 사이비 단체 단월드와 연관있다. 2.하이브 직원들은 방탄소년단을 불법촬영한 적이 있습니다. 3.방탄소년단의 매니저가 정국을 때리려다 찍힌 적이 있습니다. 그럼에도 해고 되지 읺았습니다. 4.하이브는 미국 연습생이 성폭행을 당한 후 호텔에서 죽은 적이 있습니다. 5.직원이 과로사로 죽은 걸 은폐했습니다. 6.걸그룹 여자친구를 예고 없이 해체했습니다. 7.여자친구가 갑자기 해체하면서 팬덤 멤버십 환불을 제대로 처리하지 않았습니다. 8.플라시틱 처리하는 세금을 불법적으로 줄이기 위해 수익을 1000배 축소하여 정부에 보고했습니다. 9.세금을 불법적으로 줄이기 위해 자회사 하나를 누락하여 공시했습니다. 10.르세라핌, 아일릿의 보컬 연습에 힘을 다하지 않습니다. 11.뉴진스 기획안을 몰래 습득하여 아일릿 기획안에 사용했습니다. 12.프로미스나인의 활동을 전혀 지원해주지 않다가 멤버의 불만 폭로로 마지못해 활동시키는 모습을 보였습니다. 13.뉴진스 멤버들을 뽑던 오디션에서 방탄소년단 이후 하이브의 첫 걸그룹을 뽑는다고 홍보하고 실제로 르세라핌을 먼저 데뷔시켰습니다. 14.뉴진스는 데뷔 때에만 지원을 받을 수 있었습니다. 15.뉴진스의 공중파 방송 출연을 막았습니다. 16.여자친구 굿즈의 원산지를 의도적으로 변경하여 표기했습니다. 17.음반 밀어내기를 음반 초동 판매량을 불법적으로 늘리며 음악 업계의 교란을 불러일으켰습니다. 18.유튜브 프로모션을 통해 돈으로 뮤직비디오 조회수를 2-3배 가량 늘렸습니다. 19.뉴진스와 협업하던 감독의 작업물을 고소장과 함께 협박하며 삭제하도록 하였지만, 나중에 협박한 적 없는 척 하며 언론플레이를 하고 감독을 나쁜 사람으로 몰아갔습니다. 20.위버스 글로벌 팬덤 플랫폼에서 악성 게시물을 전혀 제재하지 않다가 팬들의 항의에 수개월간 수정을 미루다가 마지못해 제재하고 있습니다. 21.민희진의 노트북을 불법 취득하여 개인 카톡을 언론에 공개하는 등 개인정보 유출을 하고 있습니다. 22.어도어를 감사하려는 본 목적과 다르게 민희진의 노트북 속 뉴진스와 관련된 기획안을 빼돌리고 있슴니다. 23.뉴진스 멤버들의 연습생 때 영상들을 공개하며 민희진이 선별하고 모은 멤버들을 하이브의 쏘스뮤직에서 기획한 것처럼 꾸몄습니다. 24.뉴진스 멤버들과 그 부모님들의 인사는 받지 않으면서 르세라핌, 방탇소년단 멤버들은 모두 알아보는 등 안면인식 장애라는 거짓말을 하고 있습니다. 25.최근 국정감사에서 국정감사가 진행되고 있는 중에 업계동향리포트를 유출한 세력 즉 국회의원을 위협하는 입장문을 공개했습니다. 26.포브스, 빌보드 등 글로벌 언론 뿐 아니라 한국의 주요 3개 방송국 뿐 아니라 일개 sns 또는 인터넷 커뮤니티까지 모두 바이럴을 하고 있습니다. 27.최근 공개된 업계동향리포트는 하이브가 특정 아티스트들의 악성 게시물을 특정 악성팬들으 잘못이 아닌 대중들의 의견이라고 인식하고 있음을 보여줍니다. 28.하이브는 뉴진스의 멤버 하니가 다른 아티스트의 매니저에게 면전에서 무시하라는 말을 듣고 씨시티비를 확인하였지만 억지로 장면의 앞부분만을 보여주며 덮으려는 태도를 보였습니다. 29.르세라핌과 아일릿의 실력 논란 때 뉴진스의 잡스러운 쿠키, 칼국수 관련 논란들을 끄집어내는 입장문을 공개했습니다. 30.하이브 pr음 뉴진스의 일본 활동 성적을 깎아내리기 위해 언론사에 골프접대를 하다가 통화 녹음이 유출되었습니다. 하이브는 원래 작은 회사였기 때문에 아티스트들을 제대로 대우해줄 줄 모릅니다. 하지만 민희진의 등장으로 뉴진스가 민희진에게 받는 대우가 다른 아티스트들과 눈에 띄게 차이났습니다. 그래서 하이브도 대기업으로 거듭났으니 아티스트들을 제대로 대우해줄 수 있어야 합니다. 저는 당신이 한국의 정치가들을 관종이라고 표현한 것에 대해 유감을 표합니다. 제가 집고 넘어가고 싶은 부분은 뉴진스, sm, jyp, yg의 팬덤은 모두 민희진을 지지합니다. 하이브를 지지하는 팬덤은 빙탄소년단, 르세라핌, 아일릿 팬덤 뿐입니다. 그리고 대부분 언론인들은 모두 하이브편입니다. 실제로 한국에서 민희진 입장을 보도해주는 언론사는 채널에이, 제이티비씨라는 방송국 제외하고 없습니다. 오히려 좌표를 찍으며 공격한 것은 하이브입니다. 최근 유출된 보고서를 보면 모자이크가 되어 있지만 어떤 그룹을 어떻게 공격했는지 고스람히 담겨 있습니다. 이 사건에 대해 뒤늦게 알게된 해외 팬이라면 잘 모를 수 있습니다. 하지만 하이브의 언론에서의 거짓말과 그 거짓말들이 하나씩 밝혀지는 과정을 처음부터 직접 봐온 한국인 케이팝 팬으로써 민희진을 지지하는 게 맞다고 생각합니다. 실제로 한국의 사회에서 하이브를 지지하는 사람이 없습니다. 오직 인터넷에만 하이브를 지지하는 사람이 있습니다. 제발 하이브의 언론플레이에 속지 마세요. 그리고 한글 댓글로 한국인인척 하지 마세요. 그리고 하이브는 실질적으로 증거가 아무것도 없는 상태입니다. 증거라는게 민희진의 개인 카톡 몇개가 전부이기 때문이죠. 민희진의 카톡들도 그 때 당시 사건과 함께 맥락을 보면 전혀 문제될게 없는 발언들입니다.
@n8mare076
@n8mare076 10 күн бұрын
hybe should take big steps on them . if hybe stay silent ,they will keep coming again and again to attack them and their artists .
@truusvanroekel-se7pl
@truusvanroekel-se7pl 10 күн бұрын
At this moment every action of Hybe is fuel for the haters. They twist everything in their favor, and if that's not possible, they ignore. I think everyone in the Hybe fandoms must be very carefully with their words. You can read that the haters are very provocative and almost beg for reactions. They want noise.
@n8mare076
@n8mare076 10 күн бұрын
@@truusvanroekel-se7pl but they are targetting one after one artist , now they targetting lsfm and who knows what their next target is , already they are hating lsfm too much on twitter , i don't know what even happens
@ruthfischer7615
@ruthfischer7615 10 күн бұрын
@@n8mare076 Don't fuel the fire. She has nothing but media play so don't fall for it. Stream the artists she attacks like Le Sserafim and Illit. You need to do positive things not concentrate on the negative you can not change.
@n8mare076
@n8mare076 10 күн бұрын
@@ruthfischer7615 yeah 👍
@KsenijaHajdu-x3g
@KsenijaHajdu-x3g 10 күн бұрын
Ne samo to, zdaj se dogaja, da privrženci V, obtožujejo Hyb, da sabotira njegov album ter so zelo sovražno nastrojeni do Hybe. Podobno se obnašajo kot Min Heejin in to ni v redu!
@Ag-eq4ow
@Ag-eq4ow 10 күн бұрын
Hats off to mhj who knows how international /korea media play works .the fact that pannchoa koreaboo is working soo hard daily to push this agenda within international fans and being soo successful .fact that k NJs fans are sooo soo smart and actually scary whereas hybe really thinks this will not affect their idols whereas it is affecting them .does hybe even know what lies the media is spreading esp on int side !! It’s disgusting ..every week a new drama and kpop fans are mostly kids they will believe any titles and the fact hybe doesn’t feel the need to clarify it is soo dumb !! 🤦🤦🤦
@AwakeningWings
@AwakeningWings 10 күн бұрын
HYBE knows about it, they are monitoring it all.
@cloudsn
@cloudsn 10 күн бұрын
I've been seeing a lot of comments in English against HYBE in the past couple days. Don't think that international fans are being smart, they're repeating the same lies from Koreaboo and other trash sites.
@Ag-eq4ow
@Ag-eq4ow 10 күн бұрын
@@AwakeningWings I don’t think they know anything about pannchoa and how much these news are spread to every place including TikTok and insta .this type she has done way too much damage for hybe
@Be_kind_and_polite
@Be_kind_and_polite 10 күн бұрын
They just bought a US PR company….they know what is going on and will deal with it at a time and place if their choosing not MHJs!
@mami11420
@mami11420 10 күн бұрын
They know exactly what’s going on. They always have. They always will. They monitor everything.
@eugeniameteye8751
@eugeniameteye8751 10 күн бұрын
Do you remember when that guy was in Hybe for 3 days before he got arrested? I always wondered if he was doing corporate espionage or hacking into their systems.
@bae4844
@bae4844 10 күн бұрын
No one has the right to speak for ARMY! We are not behind said statement!
@Be_kind_and_polite
@Be_kind_and_polite 10 күн бұрын
We can speak for ourselves by streaming Jin’s new song as well as old BRS songs that reflect our thinking right now. For me NOT TODAY and SO WHAT come to mind…as well as SPRIBG DAY! I miss and feel bad for the boys
@eileencritchley4630
@eileencritchley4630 10 күн бұрын
If we go with what they normally do they'll remain silent as possible and work behind the scene's to attack legally. Keeping their cards close to their chests so the enemy doesn't know what is coming to them. Silence is golden it puts the enemy either running around like a headless chicken trying to guess what's coming next or on the false footing that they're winning the war.
@nathufo
@nathufo 10 күн бұрын
Investigate and sue. Don’t they have a possibility to get MHJ out of the company legally and put NJ on hiatus ? Those people are nothing but a problem
@Be_kind_and_polite
@Be_kind_and_polite 10 күн бұрын
Okay I am now officially tired of all this…. I’m off to stream Jin’s music
@CloudedLeopard8588
@CloudedLeopard8588 10 күн бұрын
It’s an oppo research document which every company would carry. Companies always check, analyse and report on their competition in the market and that’s all this is. However the rabid kpop fans love to rant and cause drama on every little thing out there. It really makes kpop fans look bad. Fans are supposed to be about the music and not the companies.
@Be_kind_and_polite
@Be_kind_and_polite 10 күн бұрын
I am sure even politicians do opposition research, but probably not these puppets because they are not smart enough to understand the simplest concepts so they show up on air to show their complete ignorance and then to cover up their illiteracy they leak a research document. I hope HYBE does find the leaker and cut off their access to MHJ, And eventually their access to a oaycheck
@mo-music9077
@mo-music9077 10 күн бұрын
Most interesting was that the NA did not want them to go after the person w ho made/edited this false report, so they just wanted to stir things up while saying it is like 50/50
@samanthamay9779
@samanthamay9779 10 күн бұрын
If Hybe release a statement it will hurt the NA mens feelings..
@SamJones01011
@SamJones01011 10 күн бұрын
True BTS fans are busy supporting Jin and Bangtan by streaming/ buying their 🎶 🎵 (and merch 😏). Hybe will sort out this power play mess, eventually 🤔
@Be_kind_and_polite
@Be_kind_and_polite 10 күн бұрын
I think it is time for HYBE or ARMY to find and expose the deepest darkest secrets of some of these journalists and politicians. Yes, not a head on attack of MHJ, but rather disabling her alliances and accomplices! The time for staying classy is past! It’s time to start administering the bearings to anyone who attacks HYBE, BTS or BIGHIT! I don’t care if you call me a company stan! Why wouldn’t I be when it is the house that BTS built! If we can capture the Sganan,that would be even better… but remember we CAN. walk and chew gum at the same time so while we go on the attack, let’s keep streaming Jin’s new song!!!
@suzannebarry6337
@suzannebarry6337 10 күн бұрын
The document discussed at the National Assembly to my knowledge was a leaked document with a lot of redactions. The comments were from many different fandoms and comments about various companies’ artists not just HYBE artists. It was a report gathered for marketing purposes and does not reflect HYBE policy etc. as stated by Belift CEO at the National Assembly. Not sure how the journalist was allowed to publish a private company document? Did a politician at the National Assembly leak the document or did someone inside HYBE? I think the different fandoms should trust their artists and pay no heed to all the rumour mongering going on at the moment. Unless the artist comes out and makes a public statement then the fans should just trust their favoured artists. Otherwise by creating noise and fuss over unsubstantiated rumours is just playing into MHJ playbook.
@bqanto
@bqanto 9 күн бұрын
The MPs certainly do not have access to private corporate documents. The document was stolen probably months ago, edited to leave only what made Hybe look bad, and given to the MP who read it during the audit. They are a real joke Country. They agreed that the journalist would publish it the day before, but obviously the MP did not prepare in a day. The journalist has the right not to reveal who got him the document, it is part of the whistleblower protection. The fact is that there was no "real" misconduct reported here, this is a complete set-up.
@moonchild9992
@moonchild9992 10 күн бұрын
I do believe HYBE does user research. They collate both positive and negative conversations to drive better user experiences. Hence why most of their artists do well overall. I very much think they do their best to address user painpoints, it's a shame that people misunderstood it for Hybe's stance, when really they probably quoted it to an example of a pain point.
@likwid_magma
@likwid_magma 10 күн бұрын
1) When your enemy throws a tantrum in public, it's wise to avoid direct contact. Ignore it as much as possible and focus on your own business 2) Protect your rights when they are violated 3) Hype up your own accomplishments. No one in the industry can match HYBE''s artists in terms of vision, revenue, or worldwide popularity. Keep returning to those accomplishments. Ignore attempts to change the subject 4) Laugh. Make fun of these angry people and their over-the-top, bizarre accusations. Ridicule people spread them. When your enemies are angry, one of the of the most infuriating things you can do is smile and laugh 5) When your enemies lie about themselves, state the truth in a matter of fact way. We are in this situation because MHJ refused to cooperate with an audit. She still refuses. As a result, she was fired as CEO and lost all her stock options. MHJ was dumb enough to plot against her employer on a company-owned laptop, and all her plans are known. She failed at everything she tried to do. At this point she should just focus NJ's next comeback. Hopefully this one will be more successful than the last one and they'll make more money for HYBE and their shareholders (who include BTS).
@Be_kind_and_polite
@Be_kind_and_polite 10 күн бұрын
Do we in ARMY not have creatives who could make memes of this elderly Ajhussi bunnies…. Let’s make their foolishness trend and see how they like it!
@jessicapierce3027
@jessicapierce3027 10 күн бұрын
There is this whole issue with media releasing arcticles then retracting them, saying that it could cause a stir if put out there. The damage is done by the time you do the retraction. Nobody reads articles for the truth, only the drama the headlines cause.
@deedee2231
@deedee2231 10 күн бұрын
Well, Hybe boy, let’s start off with your thumbnail. If this is a non-verified document let’s not say that is a “leaked Hybe document”if we’re not sure if the report is authentic or verified,that’s a little sensationalized. I personally see a bigger picture about all that is happening. I believe all of this is about the contract between Newjeans and Ms. Thang to be able to get out of their contract without paying a penalty. If her attorneys can prove that new jeans has been mistreated, the courts will have to release them from the contract without a penalty. At this point it doesn’t have to be true because she has every one in a up roar. So many fires to put out. Government officials, Chinese slander, don’t forget those bunnies and more. If Hybe attorneys are on top the bs. They can at least clear their name but I doubt if they can clear all the BS. Social sick media spreads the made up mess, so many sheep! My concern is BTS, but in a sense you gotta protect Hybe in order to protect BTS. That’s just how I see it. Hybe has BTS best interest at hand they’re a big part of the growth of Hybe.
@gina007
@gina007 10 күн бұрын
I personally would like to see a transparent approach - I, myself, peek in on different fandom spaces to get an idea of what is being discussed in order to decide if it’s specific to the fandom I am looking at or if it appears to be apart of the “culture” of online communities/spaces. Because if it’s the latter, I won’t take what I see too personally, everyone is just echoing each other’s thoughts because that’s what they think should be happening in that space. If I notice differences, I’ll know exactly what my particular fandom would need to work on. If the report was compiled to do a similar analysis, they can say that. They won’t reveal too much by saying exactly what the report is for, but not sharing how it’s used in detail because people do steal a plan that appears to work well lol
@thelastsplash
@thelastsplash 10 күн бұрын
I work in marketing and reports like this are pretty standard parts of competitor analysis with sentiment reporting and is one piece of market research. Sentiment reports usually include crawling the web for certain keywords/phrases and then compiling them into positive, neutral and negative sentiment. For nearly all my clients who can afford this type of research, we usually look at the negative sentiment of their own brand down to the review/comment level and do the same for competitors to compare them. I currently work in tourism, so if people are saying a competitor destination is better for x,y,z than my destination or if they are saying "i hate x about competitor destination" then these are both things that inform strategy. Is there a knowledge barrier or lack of awareness around my destinations x,y,z? Can we position our destination as being a destination known for not having x? I had plenty of DISGUSTING things said about our destinations or previously working in ecommerce/hospitality about our products/services. But I think there is a more visceral reaction to seeing the comments compiled into one space because Hybe's product are humans but that's the nature of this industry. And most of the people clutching their pearls at the idea of doing this type of analysis on people are the same people who don't focus on the music and are writing the hate comments being crawled. I often think them being in the report is really what upsets them.
@gina007
@gina007 10 күн бұрын
@@thelastsplashand this is exactly the thought process I had. this is normal procedure being made to look terrible because of the company it’s “coming from” (for a lack of better phrasing). the idea that this company filled with individuals people log into these online spaces to talk negatively about day in and day out knowing what their acct looks like scares them. Because online communities is like call centers on steroids, people say whatever that like when they feel like they have anonymity. Now it’s a case where not only does this company possibly know their acct, but the chances they could find the human behind said acct comes into play now. Also, on a personal note, it’s outrageous to think that something like this is causing more of a violent reaction than finding out a company hired a viral marketing firm to post some of the most terrible things we would ever see about these humans that just want to live their dreams by singing and dancing…because the company is their no. 1 competitor.
@chesiresays
@chesiresays 10 күн бұрын
Yes at this point its all a trend to hate on anything and everything related to hybe. Ive seen ppl go as far as to claim that hybe purposefully physically injures their artists 💀 or that hybe is the reason for seunghans situation
@gina007
@gina007 10 күн бұрын
@@thelastsplash the response I originally had to this didn’t save - it was long so now I’m paraphrasing lol this was the same exact thought I had. it’s normal practice for companies, no matter the industry, to compile what is essentially just data to use to determine how they are doing and what could/should be done better. I think one of the main reasons why the reaction to HYBE having comments compiled in this way is because these people realized that their comments can and likely have been seen. And now they’re fearful about which comments will land them in legal situations for what they thought was just fun and games. Online communities are like call centers on steroids, people think they can say whatever they like because of anonymity and this breaks that delusion. I also find it crazy that people have lost their minds about a company compiling all comments for reports, but didn’t seem half as outraged about another company paying a lot of $$ to a viral marketing company to post very upsetting things about humans who just want to live their dreams singing and dancing …simply because they belong to a company that is their no. 1 competitor.
@gina007
@gina007 10 күн бұрын
@@chesiresays the last part is a CRAZY reach!
@bparry2406
@bparry2406 10 күн бұрын
To me I trust HYBE's Legal and PR departments will be all over this and their response will be given once they establish the facts of the matter and have solved the issue. They will give a considered response only when they have evidence and will not respond to frantic demands as the perpetrators would love. This goading tactic is getting a little stale and HYBE is sophisticated enough to know when to spar.
@ShashoShasta
@ShashoShasta 10 күн бұрын
MHJ is a poison arrow in HYBE’s side. The sooner she is gone the better. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
@mami11420
@mami11420 10 күн бұрын
I think it could be both. Just the fact that the full report was released gives me pause. Only the negative side was posted/sent around… that gives me pause. I think hybe knows what they’re doing but I agree if they’re too transparent then they could give too much away. I do sorta hope they release a very long, detailed statement explaining some things but then again, could give away too much. Kpop stans, and some army, believe everything online with zero context, credibility, or proof. At the core, army are still army but way too many who have joined us are lying about being army cuz it just makes no sense.. probably solos tbh. I guess the best few days and weeks will be hard for hybe fandoms but we stand by our faves, and weeks should stand by each others faves. This doesn’t concern them in the sense that they wrote anything for any company report. This isn’t on them. So while people pass the blame as usual, I’m gonna patiently wait with hybe. And just hope it doesn’t take too damn long. No way in hell do I believe that hybe ruined another group or a member of a group. Seunghan got fucked over by SM and Korean fans - that is exactly who made him choose to leave. Not passing the blame for that on anyone but those two.
@rosebooysen1693
@rosebooysen1693 10 күн бұрын
We have to protect BTS 😭 cause they did it while Jin released his song
@UsuiTakumi-ff9rc
@UsuiTakumi-ff9rc 10 күн бұрын
I just dislike them so much bro like why hating and sabotaging hybe artists just because mhj's greediness? she wants the company to herself like she built it i just hate it.. my blood boils
@pascaleabousil7019
@pascaleabousil7019 10 күн бұрын
That was their plans all along…
@kanohane
@kanohane 10 күн бұрын
That was her plan
@rebeccaavoca9143
@rebeccaavoca9143 10 күн бұрын
@@UsuiTakumi-ff9rc she's really EVIL & all the people who supports her really corrupt! imagine that reporter who anti HYBE & always wrote nice things about MHJ & NJ, now is in that assembly that been grilling HYBE!!
@KsenijaHajdu-x3g
@KsenijaHajdu-x3g 10 күн бұрын
Res je!
@hlubvaj5758
@hlubvaj5758 10 күн бұрын
Seems like everyone believing all these rumors are EXO's fans, Aespa's fans and YG stans. They def. hate how HYBE's artist overtook them one by one. So now they are joining forces and stand with MHJ just because she is making HYBE look bad. Before that, they never liked NJ or gave 2 shiz about MHJ. MHJ knew to get those fans on her side.
@danyell4827
@danyell4827 10 күн бұрын
Im so sick of all this. Its ao clear MHJ is behind all this, and the joke that was the assembly being so blatently biased and twisting that report in a way that makes Hybe look bad, then the public just running all the way home with it is so frustrating. The amount of videos and shorts pushing the narrative that those were Hybes words, is insane to me. And Hybe cant even defend itself because people wouldnt them. I know the truth will come to light, its just taking too long. I hope the artists and employees at Hybe stay strong
@suga_rush
@suga_rush 10 күн бұрын
I think they need let their legal actions speak for them. She is trying to draw out HYBE into a media war which is her comfort zone. If they give her the attention, it's only going to encourage to do more of this.
@arlene9275
@arlene9275 10 күн бұрын
exactly!!!!
@ky_sharkB
@ky_sharkB 10 күн бұрын
I'm not sure if this hold any stand in korea or not. But as per every country, korean exercise the separation of powers between the judicial and the legislation. Meaning the National Assembly has no right to demand Belift Lab CEO to promise on behalf of Hybe to not take legal action on the leaker. Because the country has defamation law. The one that can order Hybe not to pursue (if there's no reason) will be the court. Not the Nasional Assembly. The National Assembly has cross its boundary and overstep the Judicial power.
@thatkpopsis
@thatkpopsis 10 күн бұрын
Thank you for talking about this I’ve been waiting for it as so many fandoms are placing all blame about their faves on HYBE. I don’t think HYBE is completely innocent in never having any wrong doings but this is just too far. SM was literally revealed to have hired media companies to discredit HYBE and their artists and yet it didn’t have nearly as much noise as now. Of course a company should compile fans/public opinions to see what trends are happening, this is market research. I believe this is still MHJ, SM and Kakao tactics to continue tearing down HYBE. They all have the same agenda and want the same result. HYBE needs to say something to acknowledge that this report existed but stating it is not to badmouth any groups or artists. Bang Pd has said before during the SM share acquisition that he wants to protect the future of K-pop, HYBE needs to state this again in a stronger message. When you are leading the industry everyone hates you, wants to be you, and scrutinizes every rumor no matter the legitimacy. K-pop really is majority herd mentality which MHJ is right about being brainless she knows her audience well
@yanghoonkim-w1u
@yanghoonkim-w1u 10 күн бұрын
대한민국의 국정감사 수준을 여실히 보여준 국정감사였습니다 부끄럽네요
@Txtslayok
@Txtslayok 9 күн бұрын
I’m glad this channel exists I’m tired of seeing close minded people who already hated hybe for anything taking it even far now because of all this and this comment section is not toxic thank goodness it’s with logical people lol
@bqanto
@bqanto 9 күн бұрын
One of the very rare places where Koreans and foreigners can interact.
@richersyed1877
@richersyed1877 10 күн бұрын
True or not, why should a fan care about internal reports from Hybe? I’d completely ignore it. There need to be healthy boundaries within fandom spaces. Fans can have opinions, but should not be given leverage on directing business operations. The fandom alliance is also a joke. In four years, I’ve only seen ARMY team up with Beyhive and Coldplayers to vote. No Kpop fandoms ever. It wouldn’t happen. Again, I’d ignore it. After watching the political theater, I read more about Hybe’s Q4 tiered subscription plans and new influencer app. Hybe is about to expand in a way the other K-labels will never catch up. Not even MHJ, her shaman or Team Bunnies can stop the inevitable.
@1_lightbox_1
@1_lightbox_1 10 күн бұрын
As someone who has heavily filtered my feed, I actually don’t see a lot about the backlash they’re getting from this leaked document. I see it sometimes but I skip it. Which to a degree gives me insight on what people who aren’t chronically online and also who do not care, see; these people who aren’t in the loop are actually the ones who have the potential to be new fans. Those who are criticising HYBE from the leaks are those who hate them already. So no need to address them because that’s like speaking to a wall. No explanation will appease them. This also hasn’t reached mainstream news. So addressing it will only put unnecessary attention to it.
@nehap539
@nehap539 10 күн бұрын
I think Hybe will not do such things and kept them in a file. Like a point I can say that since 2021 hybe was formed before it was bighit and other individual company. From then Hybe was famous in all part SK and it one of the top company in k-pop how they treat their artist and the growth of their artist was also really going well upto this mid march. But do u remember when the artist had their healing time 2022 Hybe Caters & u can how happy they were before it was debut of NJS It was before before MHJ and all the drama and stuff. But right I now I think Hybe is silent becoz if the give any eveidance they will get hit back becoz SKG is now targrting Hybe right as they want them to down fall So as stan of them I can say that they are keeping silent becoz to collect the data and evidance and only tinking of there artist comeback. I believe that HYBE will remain quiet for the moment - it would only fuel more negativity/criticism against them . like i can say that hybe is now really working to get back or hit back the people who pulled them down and its not east to collect thoes evedance easily. I can say that Skg have some issue with hybe as they BTS and they some probl with BTS like how they the became so famous so now they all are teid up with tht MHJ to fall down of Hybe Like nobody said anythink when she consulted a shaman to throw bts away and bring her grp to front like wht~~ fr~~ Can't imagine all evil she did and look TXT discography and bulit another same grp as them haaa~~~ can't imagine like she can bulit there will be no use there will be only on TXT. So the fan of Hybe stans or Hybe artist should wait for some time and give the company time to come back now lets give all fouces on favourite artist....
@Be_kind_and_polite
@Be_kind_and_polite 10 күн бұрын
Hey y’all, it’s November next week. Her shares expire then, and let’s just hope and pray that BTS members get at least one Grammy nomination on November 8. If your favorite doesn’t get it, let’s not be childish and sulk. Instead let’s celebrate so loudly that the noise will be heard clearly in LA and increase the chances for an actual win in February, after which it will be only a few months more until our boys come back. What we can do this next week is to buy or streamJin’s music, so we can ruin MHJs Halloween celebration and see her lose money on November 1, then we get ready for November 8 Grammy announcements
@bqanto
@bqanto 10 күн бұрын
I want to say something about MHJ's hiring in Hybe in 2019. In 2018, the contracts of our seven BTS stars were renewed for the period 2020-27 (renewals are done well in advance). We know that almost all of them wanted to start a solo career and the chances of the group breaking up were quite high. So probably SM Ent. was hoping for it. Instead, in the end, the group did not break up and this gave BSH the opportunity to list Bighit on the stock exchange and subsequently found Hybe. I think that at that point SM Ent. devised a plan of destruction from within the fearsome competitor. It was clear that nothing would stop the rise of BTS and BSH (in fact, Hybe is now a conglomerate). I must say that the Trojan Horse was carefully chosen for her skills of pretense, acting, falsehood and manipulation which unfortunately screwed BSH. Now, in 2024, SM Ent. and Kakao are investing heavily in this work of destruction; they have been waiting for five years, they will not back down from anything. I just hope they do not turn to violent crime, like Puff Diddy did to wipe out the competition. There are billions at stake.
@n8mare076
@n8mare076 10 күн бұрын
waiting for your video
@neepagummapu
@neepagummapu 10 күн бұрын
i think the report is real but heres the deal, all companies do this not just the entertainment companies. people are taking the intention out of context. many companies have teams just to look at whats being said about them and their competitors online. this is normal business practice. i feel this is being blown out of proportion. you cant believe something when its clearly been tampered with to make one side look bad. if youre going to make such a report public you better make the entire thing public just not bits and pieces. the most appalling thing about the report is the people who posted those horrible comments. the ones posting horrible comments should be ashamed of themselves. i think the commenters didnt like that their horrible words may have been saved by some company ( could lead to potential lawsuits) and thats why they are being the loudest in blaming hybe. they just want to pass on their guilt to someone else. im absolutely sure the ones being loudest about the report are the ones who say a lot of nasty stuff about idols. i think the intention was to toy with raw emotions of fandoms. till now, for most part hybe fandoms have more or less been on hybe side expect for a few fandoms. she wants fandoms to lose faith in hybe. if the fandoms get weak this will also result in shareholders losing faith in hybe. shareholders will not see growth potential, isnt that what meanheejin wants? her ultimate goal is to make shareholders lose faith in hybe. meanheejin really thinks that all fandoms are as braindead as bunnies. i cant speak for other fandoms but she really didnt acct for army's intelligence and support for bts. most armys understand the purpose of such a report so that section of armys think logically. at this point, i feel no matter what hybe says no one will believe them so its better for them to be silent. if theres a strong legal case then pursue it legally. best scenario would be for the artists to show support for hybe directly or indirectly. like seokjin in his last 2 welives wore a bighit cap. his message was loud and clear. if those brats can do a whole live for meanheejin then why cant other artists make their stance clear? i get why they are quiet but it would send a positive msg. or maybe hybe can invite game caterers again and get all the groups to participate again except new jeans of course (i wanted this to happen after bts came back but desperate times, desperate measures) i just need them to send a message that they are a big and strong team. i wish there are more inter-hybe collabs, excluding newjeans, not just music but other content as well. like how hobi collabed with yunjin, like how yeonjun showed up in an episode of run jin, yeonjun collabing with enhypen and katseye, like baekho and one of the girls from fromis 9 collabed. substantial collabs not just dance challenges. something that lets everyone see that their is healthy competition between the artists but also camaraderie. anyways, ive come to a point where i dont believe anything that comes from kmedia, k-govt, kpop stans or anyone related to meanheejin.
@MidnightxCrow
@MidnightxCrow 10 күн бұрын
Even if it's real I'm sure it's edited....if you read hybe's statement that they released about that initial screenshot, they said there are both positive and neglect comments collected to monitor trends and competition, but whoever leaked it edited it and only compiled the worse comments without context and made it seem as if those were Hybe's opiniona
@orchidmsc
@orchidmsc 10 күн бұрын
HYBE is playing for the long game. MHJ is scrappy and clawing at anything.
@Nianiie
@Nianiie 10 күн бұрын
I personally think hybe should deny it and take legal action. The best approach to shutting this down instead of letting it run wild, silence is good but it also lets everyone come up with their own narrative and raises suspicion on their artists and the company.
@AwakeningWings
@AwakeningWings 10 күн бұрын
I think saying something now would just make it worse.
@Nianiie
@Nianiie 10 күн бұрын
@@AwakeningWings I think they could let this pass by staying silent IF they take legal action against whoever leaked their data regardless of the forced promise at the National Assembly and against those who keep attacking their artists like reporters.
@alkim1519
@alkim1519 10 күн бұрын
Realmente, algo no cuadra desde el principio. Es de suponer que Suga tendría material para lanzar mientras esta en el servicio y lo han machacado. Sale Jin y cuando empieza a lanzar su musica salen las supuestas 2000 hojas, si JHope tiene algo para lanzar puede que esa señora también intente sabotear esos trabajos. Esa señora tiene un odio enfermizo hacia Hybe y hacia BTS . Creo que está muy enferma de odio y hará todo lo que pueda para hacerlos daño. Y pienso que es muy peligrosa. Me preocupa las conexiones políticas que parece que tiene y esas por pura lógica las seguirá teniendo hasta unas nuevas elecciones generales que no tengo ni idea de cuando son pero creo que nos espera un largo y turbio camino hasta que salgan todo BTS del servicio militar. Lo encuentro todo completamente demencial.
@karlasandomingo9337
@karlasandomingo9337 10 күн бұрын
Lo más demente hasta este momento es la participación de la Asamblea Nacional en esta turbia narrativa de MHJ. Es increíble que esos señores se presten a poner sobre la mesa un documento y sin ser transparentes: de dónde sacaron ese documento, quién es la fuente, por qué lo muestran parcialmente... qué todo esto no es ilegal? Pero Suga lo dijo: cuánto más brillen, más extensa la sombra. Y bts es un astro que encandila. Ojalá se vayan de vacaciones a otro lugar del mundo, incluso EEUU, después de que salgan de su servicio militar.
@sahasrabdi5967
@sahasrabdi5967 10 күн бұрын
I don't think it's credible because then why would they not use it in the court to prove their claims of mistreatment? They also used it to enrage the public & they know the behaviour of kpop fans very well. At first mhj used sm stans now she is using all big 3 stans. Then we always had malicious bunnies on her side from the beginning
@lindaMinister
@lindaMinister 10 күн бұрын
But the national assembly gave Hybe the gag order, told not to go after the culprit who leaked the 18000 pages document? What to do?!! Don't you notice? Hybe is always on the defensive?
@Be_kind_and_polite
@Be_kind_and_polite 10 күн бұрын
We can find and name the Leaker. HYBE doesn’t have to. Same outcome and HYBE can honestly say they didn’t go after the Leaker if we find and name them!
@someonefromCY
@someonefromCY 10 күн бұрын
Are there still people who believe that the 'bunnies' are so organised to be able to have money and ways of sending faxes and whatever else bs to pressure Hybe? Even Bts Army doesn't have an organisation to speak on behalf of all of us.
@MidnightxCrow
@MidnightxCrow 10 күн бұрын
Exactly what I always say...even Army at our peak weren't able to do this...plus they actually don't even have that many fans, it's a known fact that their Core fandom is almost non-existent, they were mostly carried by GP when their debut songs were popular....the ones doing this are literally just paid ppl by MHJ
@toni5431
@toni5431 10 күн бұрын
Without knowing what this so called report is about how on earth can any fan group decide that Hybe has somehow offended Army, Moas etc. I am fed up of all this subterfuge and issues in the news. It's almost weekly now so I am pretty certain some heavy players must be backing this constant harassment of Hybe. Whomever it is they are determined to break Hybe in one way or the other. What's next on the hidden agenda, the politician bunny uncles demanding a national audit??
@madkmadk6809
@madkmadk6809 10 күн бұрын
My guess is next they will use AI to create false images and audio recordings about popular hybe artist in order to get them backlash and ruin their careers
@susannhem1127
@susannhem1127 10 күн бұрын
I'm sure HYBE know what he doing
@6tribes
@6tribes 10 күн бұрын
Gotta hand it ot MHJ she is vicious and has a lot of people in her back pocket
@lealarsen2017
@lealarsen2017 10 күн бұрын
Hybe boy? maybe you can make a petition we can sign to counteract this? we will share it on every platform to get army to sign it. we have to get more than this other one is getting.
@MidnightxCrow
@MidnightxCrow 10 күн бұрын
Great idea 👍 pit would be good if it includes all responses from Hybe so far and all proof and opinions of fans like us.... because this is going out of control and is really unfair....please @HYBEBOY613 Pin this comment and let's do something.... because MHJ is actually starting to win this and we are all getting mentally drained
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