Is The Kilterboard SOFT? Trying the BEST rated V4-V10 at 40 degrees

[@themInterwebs]

Yes, it is soft

[@jackruder2399]

40 degrees is especially soft on the kilter. IMO the higher the angle and harder the problem the less soft in general

[@RealWorldClimbing]

I think it definitely depends on if powerful moves between biggish holds is your style, then they might feel soft. Each board has its own feel and style.

[@TheMasterMacc]

I saw a video somewhere where Jimmy Webb said that his Kilter boarding is done at 50 degrees. If you look he doesnt do the first ascent on most of the non 50 ones.

[@mariodeluistristan2285]

The video I was waiting for!! Totally agree with you about the chances of success when you climb a specific grade on the Moonboard vs. a similar one on the kilterboard. Although Kilter is really fun I find the Moonboard more brutal but still satisfying when you send a problem😅

[@RoadtoV11]

The Kilter is such as great board…! We’re doing a comparison video soon😎

[@DanA-bt7dr]

Hey. I love me some rock, but great to see a board video from you again. I'm still nostalgic for your favourite Moonboard benchmarks vid on the 2017 as I saw it when I was just getting into the Moonboard on that set at my local gym. I've gone back to it multiple times for recs. First, shame about that kickboard setup. I think there's no doubt the KB is a more versatile tool than the MB, I mean it starts at V0 and the adjustability is useful. My problem with the KB is the app design. If you tick something different than the posted grade it logs it as that grade and I feel that most people have too much ego to downgrade (myself included usually). I feel it would benefit from a "suggested grade" feature and some community consensus. The Moonboard community's sandbagging is notorious and makes me giggle. Funny you did Bell of the Wall first, I could not bring myself to tick that as a V4. I find sorting by setter often works well (Jimmy's problems are pretty reliable). Haven't tried 50 degrees but will do that next time. Anyway, it's all for fun and training so I just measure up against myself.

[@kngsaj3570]

40 degrees on Kitler is definitely the most soft grading. But usually 50 degrees is only a little soft.

[@neterchance4708]

nah its still 2-3 grades softer than gym/moon

[@jdk_6159]

Never climbed on Kilter but climbed up to V8 on 2017 mb. Some of these kilter problems look to be graded 2-4 V grades more than similar problems would be on the mb. That being said, MB is know to be stiff and I have heard that kilter grading is more accurate at V10+ but they entail massive moves because the holds are too good. Curious to give the kilter a proper climb at some point and also to see a comparison of the two by you.

[@yScribblezHD]

the kilter is massively soft compared to mb 2017. I've climbed all the 3/4s, most 5s, a good num of 6/7s, and an 8 on the 2017. On the kilter I've flashed plenty of 8s, granted it's pretty much my style of climbing. That being said I think if someone is a bit more finger oriented they'll be a bit closer.

[@angelinesfontanovalle4832]

😮👏👏💪

[@G41headache]

I consider myself an intermediate climber, but can't complete any of the climbs on the kilter board

[@hj40]

tunes on this one 🎶

[@RoadtoV11]

Harsha Anand’s choons🔥

[@marcaurelius3338]

I think grading,bweather soft or hard doesn't matter as long as you use Kilter board carefully according to your purpise. For example, if you try your limit grade, weather the grading system sift or hard doesn't matter match.

[@TheJZab]

Great video! The kilter doesn't feel soft to me haha

[@eric752]

Kilter board is more about pulling strength, while Moonboard is more about finger strength because Moonboard has much smaller size. Not always true, but most of time, this should be right.

[@dark.wizard.brandledorf]

Siiick. Love the Kilter board! Try some of my sets, setter name: sandalsboy

[@RoadtoV11]

Thanks!! Will do 😄

[@jonaskarlsson5901]

the moon board is way too sandbagged. I climb 6c+ indoors but I can't climb any of the easiest grades on a moon board lol

[@AlexHamilton86]

Need to dial that "background" music down in the mix, it overpowers not just your spoken audio, but the whole video

[@RoadtoV11]

Hey Alex, definitely. It’s just that there was music playing in the gym and the video could had easily got copyright flagged.

[@AlexHamilton86]

@@RoadtoV11 that makes sense!

[@kylemurray8662]

My biggest gripes with the kilter and most of the community who sails through the climbs is they use the ridiculously huge kickboard that most of the boards have - as seen in your gym. The other is they match.. which I think everyone kinda knows there's no matching on boards.. and then they call it soft..yeh you're climbing it soft. ...These climbs are SDS and there really should be no board below the foot holds. You can either use the intended foot holds or smear the board area in between them, but going below them is sus - as seen in all your climbs. No offense, but judging by your technique you wouldn't get off the ground on any of these climbs on the Kilter at my gym, and wouldn't create the momentum you are using to get to the first holds, i.e. standing. Taking away the kickboard and actually doing the climbs as SDS with no clearance under the foot holds, and adhering to no matching changes the complexity of ever single climb and every start. So soft yes, if you're standing for all of the climbs that are intended to be super compact and compression-y SDS uh yes it makes them soft af, lol. And yes, compared to the MB and TB2 the Kilter is more approachable and I'd argue its because like 90% of gyms have installed Kilter with kickboards. The TB2 and MB... you'll never see either with 2 1/2 feet of just board at the bottom (like some Lemur and Aurora boards).

[@mrwhale7875]

Ermmmm the lemur//aurora climbing setup is the "benchmark" setup for kilter.

[@josephgormley1175]

I’ve climbed both. The sitstarts don’t add much unless they are horrendously low. With matching, while I agree it’s bad style, unless the problem is specifically no match then matching is in

[@kylemurray8662]

@@mrwhale7875 No one said it wasn't - its up to the gym to set them above or sunken in the pads.

[@kylemurray8662]

@@josephgormley1175 the footholds should be about four inches above the pads at most. yeh I gotta call BS on that considering SDS usually add two grades to a problem. i think people just need to be honest with themselves and gyms shouldn't have kickboards.

[@mrwhale7875]

@@kylemurray8662 TB2 kicker is bigger than the kilter kicker, go watch any of the tension board videos from the tension hq. same deal with the kilter, the only reason some boards dont have the big kicker is because of height restrictions