Is the Myth of the Genius Director finally dying?

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@jesusbenn
@jesusbenn 3 күн бұрын
As a black queer woman director, the amount of times I've been called "bossy" for doing the most minimal requirements of my job, in the calmest way humanly possible... Or, been replaced, as a writer and having my name removed because they want a white man to "take over" now that I've developed the piece. Thank you for this video. The more intersectional you are, the higher the bar.
@roxassora2706
@roxassora2706 3 күн бұрын
Yikes.
@stuckkt5533
@stuckkt5533 3 күн бұрын
😭 yet men can throw fits and treat everyone badly on set and are seen as GREAT for doing so
@roxassora2706
@roxassora2706 3 күн бұрын
@@stuckkt5533 Ugh.
@annEngr
@annEngr 3 күн бұрын
This is pretty much the case for any woman in a male dominated field. And it is complete horse sh!t!
@TheNighyWriterPartiii
@TheNighyWriterPartiii 3 күн бұрын
I'm curious, is there any way to see your work. I have dreams of one day making movies, so I'm always consuming media from different creatives. Getting inspired and growing.
@pitpride1220
@pitpride1220 10 сағат бұрын
Black male screenwriter here. I'm used to being ignored and having no power. I'm not in a position like Haggis, Sorkin or Kauffman. I'm usually not allowed on set. The director takes over the script and the vision. Early in my career I lost any say during option and later at rewrites. But I'm a bit past that now. I'm usually involved up to shooting script. I've been allowed once to collaborate during that process. It's a thankless profession. You're often invisible and disposable. I still love it only because I love writing. Excellent video!
@aamia3769
@aamia3769 3 күн бұрын
I am a woman director and I’m actually filming my first short on Sunday. Wish me luck! It’s been so hard putting this production together, my finance and I but we are excited. My partner let me know the odds stacked against me in the film industry, not just as a person chasing a dream but as a woman of color who is disabled and disadvantaged. The chances are slim to none to break into the industry. Even if you have a great idea they will just try to buy it, and put someone else’s name on it. This is one of the best case scenarios for new filmmakers of creatives alike. It gets A lot worse.
@elleliteracy
@elleliteracy 3 күн бұрын
good luck with your first short!!
@andywellsglobaldomination
@andywellsglobaldomination 2 күн бұрын
I don't care about your gender. Anyone who wants to bear the burden of directing is better than me! Best thoughts for your struggle.
@entertainmentfan1463
@entertainmentfan1463 Күн бұрын
Damn on those disadvantages, but good luck. It's been bothering me extremely recently how Hollywood has basically prevented disables and midgets from playing roles literally written for them. For example the last time I can recall midgets being in a movie or show was the Willow TV series. However here are all the roles for midgets I can think of that was written post Willow. Dungeons and Dragons 4 where the midget role went to Bradley Cooper using CGI to make him smaller. Wonka where the Oompa Loompa role went to Hugh Grant using CGI. Rings of Power where there's a crud ton of hobbit and dwarf roles and was a single one of them played by a midget? Like legit question. Now we have the upcoming Snow White movie where the dwarves are CGI. Like WTF Hollywood? This is totally reminding me of Hollywood's "blackface era" which is more the era where Hollywood would have roles written specifically for racial minorities, but Hollywood rather hire white dudes and put them in make up instead to play those roles.
@pitpride1220
@pitpride1220 10 сағат бұрын
Good luck and congrats! Hope to see it
@PentexProductions
@PentexProductions 3 күн бұрын
Another fantastic video! It reminds me of a quote from Peter Jackson's biography: "I have no desire for my name to become a brand. It kind of happens without you being able to control it, if you're lucky enough to make a successful film. Have a good look at the credits of The Lord of the Rings or King Kong. The one credit you will not see is "A Peter Jackson Film." I refused to allow that, and never will. Movies are collaborations, and I would never make that kind of possessive claim on such a collaborative piece of work." Whatever it might say on the posters, in reviews, who gets the awards, etc, how the director chooses to list themselves in the credits of the movie speaks volumes about how they see themselves. Ever since I read that quote, whenever I see a movie open with "A Film by [NAME]" it puts me off a little bit because it's such a selfish and narcissistic thing to say about something that required the effort of hundreds, if not thousands of people.
@JeditheScribe
@JeditheScribe 3 күн бұрын
That's interesting to know that Peter Jackson was somewhat against the auteur theory, because film buffs and people who are hardcore fans of his films still talk about him in the same way. They still talk about him as if he's this "great man auteur" when he didn't actually believe in that stuff.
@elleliteracy
@elleliteracy 3 күн бұрын
!!!! preach
@DebErelene
@DebErelene 3 күн бұрын
He's from New Zealand where we have a very anti "Tall Poppy" ethos. Sometimes it's good to shout about our talents or victories, but it's also smart to be humble & remember no one gets there 100% on their own.
@SallyMankus130
@SallyMankus130 2 күн бұрын
"Ever since I read that quote, whenever I see a movie open with "A Film by [NAME]" it puts me off a little bit. What are you talking about? Go take a look at the Sight and Sound top 100 list. 99 percent of the films will have "A _______ Film." Yes, everyone recognizes film as a collaborative art form, yet it ultimately serves an individual vision. Cinema is at its best when it feels as though it's offering a window into someone's consciousness. In order to arrive at this result, the director's vision basically needs to permeate every facet of the film in some form. Granted, I would possibly agree if you are referring to normative cinema and weirdly, she largely focuses on mainstream adjacent directors. She kind of seems out of her depth.
@casir.7407
@casir.7407 3 күн бұрын
to this day i remember this one interview with terry gillian in which he complained that he couldnt get the funds for his dream project of making a don quijote movie. he then said that "oh, if i were a black woman i bet they would give me that money straight away". this was a few years ago but i still remember how absolutely baffled i was by that. i love the style of his movies, i love how grotesque and out of the ordinary they are (a reason why i fell in love with movies through tim burtons filmography). but reading that really showed to me that an artist can be really good and interesting, and also extremely stupid. besides, he did eventually get the money to make his don quijote movie. i didnt watch it, the summary sounded unappealing to me. i dont think anybody gave a damn about it either. i think that part of demythologizing auteur directors is to give more credit to production designers, directors of photography, sound designers and screenwriters (says the woman who wants to be a screenwriter). i have been saying for years that a director can only be as good as their writer, and a movie can only work visually with a good cinematographer. directors often dream so big, they are liable to become myopic. (also both the don quijote movie and megalopolis have adam driver as the protagonist. this doesnt mean anything i think, im just already biased against him)
@samfilmkid
@samfilmkid 3 күн бұрын
Driver definitely has a knack for working with old directors on passion projects. Gilliam, Mann, Scorsese and now Coppola. He's a one man-auteur ticket.
@Robert-d3m9c
@Robert-d3m9c Күн бұрын
Dude everybody has said dumb shit before, and to be honest he said it in a funny way.
@alostkoi
@alostkoi 3 күн бұрын
Funny how this topic follows almost every artistic field: filmmaking, acting (how men are always praised for method acting even if that means creating hell for he rest), art (Picasso, no more word need), probably music and writing as well, i just lack examples. The genius (male) artist concept seems as a way to keep everything centered around men.
@avidfather1864
@avidfather1864 2 күн бұрын
Or maybe, they just make great art, regardless of their character.
@el972
@el972 2 күн бұрын
@@avidfather1864being dense on purpose okay we get it
@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ
@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ 2 күн бұрын
​@@el972Not him writing something comprehensive and you writing a teenage-like response.
@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ
@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ 2 күн бұрын
What's up with Picasso? What did he do?
@donello430
@donello430 Күн бұрын
Women have had literally centuries to create great art in the same volume as men. There is no 'systemic oppression' (lol) stopping them from picking up a pen or paintbrush
@CorinParkerCL
@CorinParkerCL Күн бұрын
This was great. I’m glad you brought up Polly Platt. “The Last Picture Show” was inspired by book that she read. The costumes and makeup was decided by her. She scouted the locations. She said it should be black and white. She did much more than an Art Director does. She worked on four of his films, during the height of his career. After Bogdanovich and Platt stopped collaborating, his career nosedived. Hitchcock relied on his wife for her opinions even after she “retired.” She was the one who caught Janet Leigh taking a breath during that long closeup. It’s why there’s a sudden cut to the shower head. Dede Allen worked on so many classic films. She managed to make a comprehensible narrative of the The Breakfast Club when she took 5 hours of raw footage and edited it down to an hour and a half. Hughes took no part in the editing process. William Friedkin… I’ll just say he made two movies I love/like and he wouldn’t be able to use many of his methods today. As for Cooper, the failures in his films seems to be his need to be front and center. He needs better collaborators. A Star is Born” is pretty good but the movie focuses more Cooper’s character than the Star in the title. I don’t think “Maestro” was directed well. Cooper’s choices on how to construct the story bowdlerized Bernstein’s life story. He needed to spend six years writing a better script instead of practicing conducting.
@iammraat3059
@iammraat3059 4 сағат бұрын
"Book she read" bro just give up already
@CorinParkerCL
@CorinParkerCL 3 сағат бұрын
@@iammraat3059 She introduced Bogdanovich to material he wasn’t aware of. Sorry if my phrasing bothers you so. But you do you, Bro.
@iammraat3059
@iammraat3059 3 сағат бұрын
@@CorinParkerCL I should credit Spotify recommender for recommending me the Beatles when I cover one of their songs
@CorinParkerCL
@CorinParkerCL 3 сағат бұрын
@@iammraat3059 Well that might be close to a good analogy if the Beatles were a band no one knew much about. And if Spotify helped you write something similar to the original song and then helped you reinterpret it for a different medium. Well, this has been pedantic and all, but I’m bored. Take care.
@iammraat3059
@iammraat3059 3 сағат бұрын
@@CorinParkerCL yeah it was a silly thing to expect credits like this for 'recommending a book' while dismissing a person's entire body of work. Imagine thinking you have the high ground in this one. You take care too.
@thescarediest
@thescarediest 3 күн бұрын
LMAO the edit of obi-wan and Christopher Nolan was so good 😭
@elleliteracy
@elleliteracy 3 күн бұрын
shoutout Elowen the editor!! that was all from her beautiful brain
@ruthiebee11
@ruthiebee11 3 күн бұрын
these men are convinced that their cast are actually terrible actors and therefore their safety must be in jeopardy for them to give a good performance. it's really fucking weird and just pisses on all the work the actors have done to get to this point of 'prestige' filmmaking.
@PynkSpotsYT
@PynkSpotsYT Күн бұрын
I think about this all the time when I think of my favorite movies, like Star Wars: A New Hope which was massively to the credit of the skill and vision of it's female editor, Marcia Lucas, George Lucas' then-wife; or American Psycho which had a female director (Mary Harron) and two female screenplay writers (Mary Harron and Guinevere Turner). These are CLASSIC, beloved pieces of cinema and yet the women involved are rarely mentioned; in the case of American Psycho (AP), for example, you NEVER hear someone say "Harron's American Psycho" the way we hear "Scorsese's Taxi Driver" or "Lucas' Star Wars" or "Kubrick's Clockwork Orange" or "Nolan's The Dark Knight." I think it would shock most fanboys to know AP was directed and written (the screenplay) by women even though they may claim it as their favorite movie. The DO know that it's based on a book written by Bret Easton Ellis though, because that is a fact that is highlighted repeatedly. I have watched countless analyses of AP because it's one of my favorite films, and there is rarely an analysis that includes interviews with Harron and Turner talking about the film, maybe never. They are rarely mentioned. Yet it is nearly impossible to watch an analysis of a film by one of 'the greats' without their input and perspective being all over the analysis, and without credit being given to them and their viewpoint almost constantly. I think this is starting to change, for instance, we often say "Gerwig's Barbie," but I think there's this idea that women just finally 'got gud' at directing and not a widespread understanding that women have always been here and are, in fact, very often heavily responsible for the genius of films that are regarded as both groundbreaking and foundational. There is also this idea that female artists make female art, but again with very little understanding that many films considered staples amongst men were shaped by women. And lastly, there is not enough attention paid to how ALL people involved in production can have a profound impact on the final product, though I think this too has started to change, at least amongst younger generations. I was thrilled to see Jordan Peele, when talking about his latest film Nope, discussing how he trusts his actors to know their character better than he does and so he trusts their instincts with how they want to deliver a line, change their lines, or change or influence what their character does or how they choose to portray them. He talks about film as an intensely collaborative process and acknowledges that the art is made better when a director makes space for everyone to have a hand in it. One of the many reasons he is one of the most exciting directors we've had in modern times! I feel like I've seen this, too, with Dev Patel talking about his beautifully brutal action movie Monkey Man. Despite Monkey Man being written, directed, and acted by Patel, and being his passion project that he has fought tooth and nail to realize for the last decade, he always speaks of all the ways everyone involved, down the accountant!, was heavily invested in the film and crucial to it even existing, much less being so incredible.
@commonwunder
@commonwunder 13 сағат бұрын
Photography can capture a single moment so perfectly. Many great film directors are photographers... they capture a series of moving moments. There is intrinsic beauty to each and every shot they produce. It is what cinephiles crave... the beauty of the photography of the moving image. Which is partly why cinema is the greatest art form. It binds each sense... the eye, the ear and the heart into one whole experience. Yet most, if not all of cinema fails as a complete entity. Every great film masters one or two aspects of the art form...but falls short in the others. Pushing away your own nostalgia, or sense of self-worth because of your relationship to it. Each film is only cherished because of a collection, of single fragmentary moments. The cinephiles love of cinema... is the love of something implicitly imperfect.
@RobertBellissimoAtTheMovies
@RobertBellissimoAtTheMovies 2 күн бұрын
I've only seen a bit of this but I already completely agree. People always prefer the "myths" of someone they admire, as opposed to the truth. Often great artists have deep flaws and people have to confront that instead of excusing bad behavior. I'm in no way saying that films by certain directors who have behaved badly should be canceled. I'm saying people need to accept hearing hard truths about people they admire and call them out on it.
@annabrittain7683
@annabrittain7683 3 күн бұрын
In class, we asked my film professor what he thought of "Megalopolis", and he said that people just don't understand "real cinema art". Art is a public service, and this is a philosophy that has existed since the Italian Renaissance. If you as the artist are the only person who can understand and/or appreciate your art when it is meant to be understood and appreciated by nearly anyone and everyone, you are doing something wrong, especially if you harm and disrespect others in the process of making said art.
@DanLyndon
@DanLyndon 3 күн бұрын
It goes both ways. Most people are artistically illiterate and don't care to challenge themselves. You see the kinds of movies most people watch. On the other hand, if someone says something like that, they definitely need to take follow up questions and make a real argument for why this thing everyone thinks is pretentious trash is actually great.
@wordoftheday7650
@wordoftheday7650 3 күн бұрын
“Art is a public service” go fuck yourself, the only thing you owe anybody in this world is your sincerity
@privatewinter1664
@privatewinter1664 3 күн бұрын
what are you even talking about? because the general public has a distain for something does that discount the art, should any and all controversial pieces of art be forgotten because they are misunderstood. this is also so stupid because this suggests that all art has a one true meaning
@SallyMankus130
@SallyMankus130 2 күн бұрын
Ah, so you are suggesting that we pander to the lowest common denominator. Got it. By your criteria, Tarkovsky, Bresson, Tarr, Akerman, Antonioni, etc were all doing something wrong because a large portion of viewers don't appreciate their art. What you need to keep in mind is that the average person lacks a certain amount of inculcation. It sounds elitist, sure, but that doesn't mean it's wrong.
@perfectallycromulent
@perfectallycromulent 2 күн бұрын
@@SallyMankus130 No, you're willfully misinterpreting this situation. Francis Ford Coppola didn't have his movie misunderstood by the unwashed masses. For 40 years, he spoke about his ideas with his peers in the film industry, his fellow directors, actors, producers he wanted to give him money. They all said, "this is crazy. it's not gonna work. you're gonna lose a ton of money." Those people were right. Industry specialists who had also made successful movie were right. Francis Ford Coppola was too huge of a narcissist to listen to experts here, and so he failed. If you hear the same response from dozens of people over decades, you need to listen.
@eliat6282
@eliat6282 3 күн бұрын
i hope you send this to your former professor, they love to know when students make cool shit like this
@emmakuru8546
@emmakuru8546 2 күн бұрын
Thought-provoking video. I’d never heard about auteur theory until now, but I think it’s a helpful perspective as to why directors or producers often get put on pedestals for a film. I think it’s human nature to want to believe in the divine genius of a single hero or independent idealist. But considering how many people go into making a film, it seems naive to give all the majority of credit to one or a few people. Since films are collaborative works, I’ve started think of them as puzzles. Each puzzle is different because each role of the crew takes a different chunk of creative control. It depends on the personalities and level of collaboration present on the project. Screenwriter(s)+ Director(s) + Producer(s)+ Editing team+ Composer + Sound Designer + Cinematographer + Actors(s) + Costume Designer(s) + Set Designer + etc. Sometimes the screenplay is adapted from a previous work. Sometimes the director, producer, or actor writes the screenplay. Sometimes directors welcome ad libs from their actors, and sometimes they don’t. It really depends. All these choices determine how much creative control a director has over the film’s vision. As someone who likes to write, I’m always curious about the screenplay and how closely or loosely adapted it is by the director and actors. Anyways, thanks for making this video. It gave me a lot to think about. By the way, what is the theory opposite to auteurship?
@gwenrose3211
@gwenrose3211 3 күн бұрын
I'm a Nolan girl, but it's because I love big dumb movies, and his biggest dumbest movies are just a treat to watch. I love tenet, what a show
@aandwdabest
@aandwdabest 3 күн бұрын
Tenet is definitely Nolan’s most “big dumb movie brain duh huh” movie and I kinda dig it. Ludwig Goransson’s score carried this movie.
@SweetT80124
@SweetT80124 2 күн бұрын
I disagree. I don't think Nolan is a big dumb movie director. Some of his movies are very well-crafted, but others I can say are not his best work. I can agree that Tenet was one film that lost me completely. Might need to watch again to try and maybe see if I just need another viewing to understand it. I don't truly know the answer. Then again I likely never will.
@zalamazu
@zalamazu 19 сағат бұрын
I'm not judging your interest in his movies but he stole a lot of stuff from non-white directors. Inception for instance steals many things from Paprika, directed by Satoshi Kon. Just let you know, some of his stuff is not even original
@SweetT80124
@SweetT80124 15 сағат бұрын
@@zalamazu I haven't seen either of those films yet, which I am guilty about. But Inception rips off Paprika? That will be interesting to discover in my viewings.
@iammraat3059
@iammraat3059 4 сағат бұрын
Dumb?
@SemiIocon
@SemiIocon 3 күн бұрын
I'm a huge Kubrick fan and think his movies are excellent, I also think he was a tyrant on set and the roles of women in his movies are severely lacking, often being barely present as their own characters in his "canon" works. It's possible to like a work without idolising the people making it.
@iammraat3059
@iammraat3059 3 күн бұрын
I don't think you have watched Lolita
@plugshirt1762
@plugshirt1762 4 сағат бұрын
@@iammraat3059 I love Kubrick's films but Lolita is such a poor adaptation. Ironically that's the one story where giving more focus to the female characters misses the point of the narrative the book crafts where Dolores is endlessly talked about as Lolita but we barely get to actually see her as a human being because Humbert doesn't view her as one
@iammraat3059
@iammraat3059 4 сағат бұрын
@@plugshirt1762 that's just your opinion man. It's a riot and even Nabokov was a fan
@chaengster4946
@chaengster4946 3 күн бұрын
“Hi, I’m Elle and you’re watching Elle Literacy” is so fucking cute! I don’t recall this being your intro but I hope it is here to stay
@elleliteracy
@elleliteracy 3 күн бұрын
tee hee hee thank you maybe i'll do it for every vid from now on
@markant9534
@markant9534 3 күн бұрын
@@elleliteracy Hi, just like to know what your top 5 favourite movies are xx
@SweetT80124
@SweetT80124 2 күн бұрын
I still would like to be a video game auteur one day but one that is a good person to work with. And being truly involved in my work while also not overburdening those who I work with.
@SweetT80124
@SweetT80124 Күн бұрын
And I do still believe that those who contribute the most and/or work the hardest in production (ethically and compassionately I mean) should be the ones that are most prominent in the development. However, that doesn't mean that person should be credited for things they didn't specifically do. Everyone else's contributions should not be properly acknowledged or credited. Even if a director has a specific input or style with art direction, cinematography, visuals, etc they should at least credit those who helped create these or completely created these.
@Carolenatal
@Carolenatal Күн бұрын
[I'm still 14 minutes in so might come back and edit] I love this video! This approach of taking things that are quintessentially collective and making it about individuals is also something that pisses me off when people talk about History. Many school systems format history along these lines of singular great person leads to great event, which is extremely problematic because it gives us an incomplete history (and we are doomed to repeat it). In the movies/series world, I LOVE it when a DVD comes with people talking about every aspect of production (like the Game of Thrones DVDs that have stuff about linguistics, costumes, photography, location scouting even). Although auteur theory helped cinema gain prestige, it can be such a limiting way to look at a beautiful dimension of art.
@roxassora2706
@roxassora2706 3 күн бұрын
"You're a male film student who doesn't know Greta Gerwig? Let me spew everything I know about her films."
@Laura-sg6ss
@Laura-sg6ss Күн бұрын
Wha?
@aliiiiiiit
@aliiiiiiit 19 сағат бұрын
it’s so disheartening even considering the option to pursue cinema as a career when you’re a woman or really when you’re anyone who believes in human rights before some sort of pursuit of tRuE aRt. when i started watching bertolucci and then realized the depth of the abuse that happened on the set of last tango in paris it made me kinda requestion everything, i don’t know if i want to dedicate my life to an industry that is so throughly fucked
@aandwdabest
@aandwdabest 3 күн бұрын
While I understand your intentions behind the video and you listed some great examples, I really hope you would incorporate James Cameron into this video as well. He is known for cultivating an environment where mistreatments and abuses on cast and crews for the sake of creative vision was common place, such as Titanic and the Abyss.
@bubumaczko
@bubumaczko 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video. The amount of times film bros around me gave me the stare and became dead silence because I said out loud that I don't like Scorsese and despise Tarantino, or I do not saw one movie of Polanski... Then they tried to tell me that I misunderstand "Cinema" because of course they did. The way they always give these directors not just the benefit of the doubt but the whole mythology without any logic or criticism is pretty tiring. What they able to see if the director is new or a woman or POC they close their eyes to all flaws if it comes from a "legendary director". Same with method actors vs "problematic" actresses.
@iammraat3059
@iammraat3059 4 сағат бұрын
You are just making your personal psychological issues other people's problem. There is objectivity, eat trash in your own time. But if someone has a different opinion than you then listen to it.
@badinfluence3814
@badinfluence3814 3 күн бұрын
Nolan is not a 'fantastic artist'. You're absolutely spot on that many 'auteurs' do not deserve the reverence they receive from the 'film bros', which is mostly unthinking bullshit.
@aandwdabest
@aandwdabest 3 күн бұрын
He’s definitely not the GOAT as film bros sees him as, but he does have his moment from time to time. I also noticed you on another video commenting that he’s a terrible filmmaker, which I agree in some aspects and disagree in others - curious to hear your view on Nolan’s weaknesses and strengths as a filmmaker. That being said I do agree with your comment on Auteurism and how it contributes to uncritical fanboyism, which is indeed bullshit.
@tzegoh333
@tzegoh333 Күн бұрын
There is a shocking lack of female auteur directors. We need more female voices like those of Agnes Varda !
@emmagrove6491
@emmagrove6491 2 күн бұрын
I was just thinking of this the other day, the myth of the "genius director". So many factors go into making a great film, from the script to the acting to the cinematography, that to credit the success of a film to one person in disingenuous. Besides, those "genius directors" have directed their fair share of stinkers.
@stephennootens916
@stephennootens916 2 күн бұрын
To be fair the days of great directors is long dead. It is all about the in Studio style and that sweat IP. Most of this directors never made a film that pulled in the type cash your studio IP film does today.
@nikomiller
@nikomiller Күн бұрын
@@emmagrove6491 you realize that most good directors are heavily involved in all of that? there are also directors who do their own cineamotgraphy or who edit their own movies. Sometimes even make the music. You have people like Hong Sang-soo who pretty much do everything on their own films. Then you have people like Soderbergh who have to use aliases because they take on so many roles during the process that he can't be credited with his own name due to Guild rules. The director tells the cinematographer what he wants and they collaborate - and there are plenty of cinematographers who are seen as "auteurs" in their own right and who even go on to direct themselves (Sean Price Williams or Christopher Doyle are big examples). It's such an idiotic point. Directors are heavily involved in most if not sometimes every aspect of making the film. And nobody is pretending they are the only ones involved or responsible - it's just that their recognizable thematic patterns and stylistic approach is in many (probably even most) cases easily attributed to them.
@iammraat3059
@iammraat3059 4 сағат бұрын
​@@nikomillerpeople don't want to listen to reality
@JaiProdz
@JaiProdz Күн бұрын
Kasi Lemmons directed the 1997 film Eve's Bayou. It's fantastic Southern Gothic film perfect for Halloween or even summer. And yet she's not talked about or given the amazing opportunities men are. Sucks!
@SmarmySnailsbog
@SmarmySnailsbog 3 күн бұрын
The way I just finished my film history term today! This video literally hits on every point of my exam!
@elleliteracy
@elleliteracy 3 күн бұрын
hope your exam went well :)
@andywellsglobaldomination
@andywellsglobaldomination 2 күн бұрын
FFC isn't the male genius of cinema you perceive. He had a run of crap movies that strangled his infant movie studio in its crib. See: ONE FROM THE HEART. There's a reason he's been more known for his wine than for his movies for the last 30 years.
@idontdomarigolds
@idontdomarigolds 3 күн бұрын
yesss i was waiting for this video I'm so excited! thank you for your well thought out and interesting videos elle i love them
@SweetT80124
@SweetT80124 Күн бұрын
Some auteurs are not overbearing individuals. They can be good leaders who earn the right to be known as creators. But of course, they should credit/cite/acknowledge those who helped them with the works of art they create. Even if they have a specific "style" to their vision.
@deletethis2416
@deletethis2416 Күн бұрын
Great points, and I think they're very important to mention. I'm sure you have, but if you're ever on a film set for an extended period of time you'll begin to realise just why the director is the most recognised of the crew. Not only because it's simpler for audiences to latch on to one name, and those of us with more niche interest to look at the production designers and prop makers; but also because the director is in charge of unifying the vision and collaborating with who they believe to be essential crew members. I'm sure we've all seen films where the director has not kept their crew in check and linked them back to the one central idea. Making movies is incredibly difficult, the fact they get made at all is amazing, directors with several films that are hits deserve the praise they get.
@mangochic123
@mangochic123 3 күн бұрын
Girl why didn’t you put this out two days ago before I wasted time and money to see megalopolis ahah finished it thinking what the fuck was that
@elleliteracy
@elleliteracy 3 күн бұрын
i’m so sorry, at least we have each other for support x
@carolinebrown2855
@carolinebrown2855 3 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed this topic. The continuation of putting these big name directors on these magnificent pedestals is one of the major irks I have with the entertainment industry, especially when it comes to awards season. And I say this a a big Spielberg fan.
@miguelfmyers
@miguelfmyers 2 күн бұрын
My professor taught me about one of the greatest filmmakers ever agnès versa. These days I always rave about ava duvernay and it false on deaf ears.
@LennyCartwright
@LennyCartwright 2 күн бұрын
I had to walk out of the theatre, it was so bad.
@LindsayTVFilm
@LindsayTVFilm 3 күн бұрын
Directors historically are usually a bit more hands off, especially in TV (they will just pull some one in for maybe 4 episodes or a dedicated arc). Directors do now produce the product as well. TV does have the show runner, who isn't necessarily the creator (especially on the very few long-running series like Power Rangers, frankly a move to New Zealand after the 10th season and 4 distinct ownership eras works to that favor. Although there was one person who had the job in all for eras- Judd "Chip" Lynn. He and Jackie Marchand are probably the writing staff with the most credits for a majority of series existence- wouldn't be surprised if there are suit actors or miscellaneous crew who were in almost all of the 20 seasons shot in New Zealand)
@Soulcrash3
@Soulcrash3 2 күн бұрын
Directors are to film like Priests are to churches like Politicians are to public servants. Narcissists are attracted to positions of power and social capital that will help them not just have access to new targets but keep them safe while openly causing harm, loads of open secrets and get out of jail free cards. I hold a firm belief that there are things in life you can only want if there is something wrong with you. And yes this goes to the majority of institutions of power, like academia or conglomerates or the police. Big money sports, things like K-pop training, modelling. Hollywood and Broadway have this too. They are the kinds of places that sell suffering (of the self or imposed on others) as aspirational. And that's why abusive people thrive, they have so many people primed to be taken advantage of who WANT that sh.t because it makes them feel worthy. Cult sh.t
@RedStarProductionss
@RedStarProductionss 2 күн бұрын
That was the dumbest shit I've every read lmao. What are you some gay anarchist lol???
@JM-hd3lr
@JM-hd3lr 14 сағат бұрын
i lovedddd this video, im not that much into films but i love your insights and it definitely made me remember how collaborative films are!
@RamonDeeJay
@RamonDeeJay 3 күн бұрын
Absolutely amazing video! Everything was so well said and I’m definitely excited to watch more of your content now!
@fussbrain9161
@fussbrain9161 3 күн бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this one
@spiritualsoothing2412
@spiritualsoothing2412 2 күн бұрын
The mythologizing of Scorcese, Spike Lee, Tarantino, Nolan, and yes, Coppola might really be the only way to market films that aren't already equipped with their own IP mythology nowadays. Save for Nolan (and The Dark Knight was a masterpiece, don't get me wrong) none of these big name directors have ever done a superhero franchise or really any franchises at all (unless you consider The Godfather trilogy a franchise, which I don't because it's the continuation of one basic story). Without a "name" attached to original stories or adaptations of more obscure works of fiction, large studios are less willing than ever to fund these projects. Would Killers of the Flower Moon even be heard of or made at all if not for Martin Scorcese's name on the credits?
@naoisecarson266
@naoisecarson266 3 күн бұрын
oh i’ve been waiting for this one YIPEEEEE
@cassidyarnold505
@cassidyarnold505 Күн бұрын
Thosands of people are required to make a movie
@nickkostopoulos8127
@nickkostopoulos8127 3 күн бұрын
I have a great many feelings about this topic, particularly in the sense that I believe the legacy of the auteurist director could serve as a beacon in an era when film and TV are becoming so deeply corporatized and algorithmed to death. Obviously, I think the troubling legacy of the lone male genius Is something to be reckoned with. I’m only really moved to comment on one specific point: Bradley Cooper wrote, directed and starred in a movie about a man who regularly said things like, “If I don't become Brahms or Tchaikovsky or Stravinsky when I'm conducting their works, then it won't be a great performance." Cooper understood the assignment, worked with his crew to make a ravishingly, beautiful movie, with some incredibly complex perspectives on the troubling impossibility of separating the art from the narcissists who make it… And the Internet turned him into a meme…. So I’ll just sign off and go back to thinking about how an increasingly anti-arts culture uses mockery as a weapon to shut down works of flawed, unwieldy ambition.
@spiritualsoothing2412
@spiritualsoothing2412 2 күн бұрын
Seems to me that his lying about knowing Bernstein personally was the catalyst that led to all the backlash. Unfair as it arguably is, it put some of his motivations in question.
@nickkostopoulos8127
@nickkostopoulos8127 2 күн бұрын
@@spiritualsoothing2412 I don’t think he was lying about knowing Bernstein; he was simply fully invested in playing the man who claimed that he had to “become” a composer he was conducting. And I maintain that in our irony-pilled culture, such Romantic with a capital R proclamations are met with gales of laughter.
@notarobit8685
@notarobit8685 3 күн бұрын
I don't know if it is an apt comparison. I'm not really read in either field, but this reminds me of sports teams - a few individuals being propped up in a group activity. It's hardly a strong comparison, as one masterful player can really make a game or team, but it's what I thought of. Perhaps the creation of the artistic genius is a natural process of how our brains work - doing the least amount of effort to create connections and relationships between things/people/topic. I believe the term is chunking. Reducing concepts and then grouping them together to form connections. It's a lot more difficult to remember a bunch of different people with their own contributions and reputations. Now me saying this does nothing to address literally anything about the misogyny or abuse or hard truths about the idea of the male genius. Just commenting for the sake of engagement.
@roxassora2706
@roxassora2706 3 күн бұрын
As much as I LOVE The Shining, it's BS how she was treated. I think that's highly unprofessional.
@roxassora2706
@roxassora2706 3 күн бұрын
@@Tolstoy111 Okay fanboy.
@joshualee9540
@joshualee9540 3 күн бұрын
That stuff is kinda complicated. Shelley Duvall has said repeatedly that she had a good experience working with Kubrick, but then you see some of the videos and you're like "huh?" I'd kinda like to take her word for it though. Making movies is absurdly stressful.
@vianneycortes3367
@vianneycortes3367 3 күн бұрын
i love this topic, thank youuu for your insights
@samitonita
@samitonita 3 күн бұрын
Babe wake up new elle literacy video just dropped
@Starkardur
@Starkardur 2 күн бұрын
The fact that people let Coppola's mythology influence their reviews is hilarious. It's 45 years since Apocalypse now and Coppola has done numbers of films since then, none of which even touch the scale of what he put in the 70s with some just horrible or having awful casting or some major issues.
@jcmurie
@jcmurie Күн бұрын
I still need to watch more films by women, people of color, queer people, etc. but I wholeheartedly agree that people like Kubrick, Spielberg, and especially Nolan are wildly overrated. They're good filmmakers (particularly Kubrick) but I find it difficult to connect to their characters and don't find their films as emotionally impactful as I would hope based on the monumental praise they get. I'll say I am still a sucker for Scorsese despite his problematic traits, but I am trying to expand my horizons
@mmoan2
@mmoan2 2 күн бұрын
I just stumbled onto your video randomly and listened in rapt attention to the whole thing. Very well done and very interesting. Just subscribed and I’ll be checking out more content.
@jamesonp3873
@jamesonp3873 3 күн бұрын
A. I'm so happy the algorithm recommended this video. B. Subscribed C. Another big point of female film erasure is Marcia Lucas. I love Star Wars and as a kid only knew the name George Lucas. Once I did some digging I was amazed at how she and Richard Chew's hard work was downplayed. D. Coppola has always struck me as a man who truly has had his head up his rear since well before I was born. The money he'd waste on leather bound scripts sent to studio heads. His past decade (maybe 2 decades) of work. Twixt is one of the worst films I've ever seen and I love the actors involved. But once I found out how he helped rehabilitate Victor Salva's career, I was done.
@onbearfeet
@onbearfeet 3 күн бұрын
The university I attended had a small garden/courtyard area called "Queens Court" because it was the only space on campus completely surrounded by buildings named after women. (There were many, many such spaces surrounded by buildings named for men, of course.) One of those structures was the Marcia Lucas building, where students could use professional editing bays to edit films. I used to eat lunch in Queens Court a lot, so I often heard campus tours pass through and explain the name. Every time, someone on the tour would ask, "Marcia Lucas? Don't you mean George?" And every time, the poor tour guide would have to gently correct them and explain. That is, except for the one time a female film student happened to be nearby and treated the tour to a fairly technical and extremely enthusiastic lecture on the brilliance of Marcia Lucas and how great her building was for young filmmakers. That was a great day. :)
@jamesonp3873
@jamesonp3873 2 күн бұрын
@onbearfeet That is awesome. I was disappointed when I realized George intentionally downplayed her hard work after the divorce. I also got into a discussion with a friend about how Sally Menke was a huge reason for Tarantino's success. Since she was key to Reservoir Dogs working she could reign him in. When I watch Django Unchained I can feel moments where Tarantino overruled Fred Raskin in the editing bay.
@purp82
@purp82 2 күн бұрын
Unironically calling any director a “genius” is the first sign that someone does not understand film. It is a collaborative process in its entirety. It’s writers and producers and directors handing out the keys to their minds to hundreds of people, all of whom are then made responsible for executing the vision held in the director/producer/writer/cinematographers mind. The creative team ultimately has only two important jobs: to render their vision as clearly as possible so it can be easily shared with others and to make the entire crews job as easy and straightforward as possible. Any goal beyond that will not succeed if the first two are not seriously considered. I think that’s where auteur theory flames out and dies, the idea a complete control lay solely in the “director” as if half the crew isn’t holding up 90% of the weight of production. Also don’t forget how fucking annoying the studios and financiers are. Some of the directors are brilliant, but often times it’s inspite of their ego. It doesn’t matter who you pick and from what time period, the director gets most of the credit because a) why not and honestly speaking b) it’s easier for non-filmy people to get it. Also “film buffs” or whatever the fuck are some of the worst people to talk to about filmmaking. Try as they might, they have no appreciation for the fundamentals of film and seem more obsessed with looking and sounding cool than learning, understanding and empathizing with the process of filmmaking and film enjoying. Everything is subjective, don’t let some loser with 300 movies on letterboxd this year tell you otherwise.
@purp82
@purp82 2 күн бұрын
Also I know for a fact a bunch of people who haven’t so much as touched a feminine film made before 1970 are gonna bring up Chantal Akerman and Agnes Varda despite not seeing a single film made by either.
@katiec-g3793
@katiec-g3793 2 күн бұрын
​@@purp82so true, people that think there's some kinda movie magic don't realise that there are so so many people involved. Like director doesn't just whip a film up outa nowhere 😂
@xathyrus7043
@xathyrus7043 2 күн бұрын
I’m in film school right now, and it’s so annoying how most people in my class support only American filmmakers all of them man, i hate when the film discussion only apply to USA
@gorequillnachovidal
@gorequillnachovidal Күн бұрын
American Psycho was directed by a woman and the bros love that movie....and don't get me started on Pet Sematary... Or Near Dark.. or Clueless....as if
@sebastianconrad6823
@sebastianconrad6823 Күн бұрын
Nah Kubrick deserves his genius status
@sonorasgirl
@sonorasgirl 3 күн бұрын
Ahh!!! Let’s go
@KC-2049
@KC-2049 3 күн бұрын
imo Nolan is the most egregious example of this. his films have always been 3 things: under written, bloated, and visually very cool, and it's shocking to me that so many people seem to ignore his failings as a writer and filmmaker because he knows how to make things look neat. but hey, Snyder has a LEGION of fans still somehow so I don't even know anymore. edit: it also makes me sad that Villeneuve is moving into this territory as of Dune 2, given D2 is easily his most conventionally made generic looking action film that really eschews a lot of the quirks and quarks that made his filmmaking so intriguing (in my opinion of coursE)
@floraposteschild4184
@floraposteschild4184 3 күн бұрын
The story and world of Dune is quirky enough, without it being also directorally quirky. I know people dream about Jodorowsky's version, but there were many good reasons why it was not made.
@KC-2049
@KC-2049 3 күн бұрын
@@floraposteschild4184 eh disagree. I really like when directors aren't afraid to get weird. like Villeneuve doing a slow, 30 second push in on a random ass tree? *chef's kiss* lol
@aandwdabest
@aandwdabest 3 күн бұрын
Don’t forget ideas and concepts > human storytelling, something Nolan falls short on more often than not.
@cumpanions8105
@cumpanions8105 2 күн бұрын
wow you are so smart you probably know everything!
@GillianRosheuvel
@GillianRosheuvel 2 күн бұрын
100% agree about Nolan. His ideas always come across as half-baked (looking at you, Tenet). And don't get me started on his treatment of female characters.
@markant9534
@markant9534 3 күн бұрын
Pulp Fiction was my favourite movie but when I saw it at the cinema in 1994, but Tarrantino steals scenes from older movies.
@awhimsyreader9015
@awhimsyreader9015 3 күн бұрын
Y'know it's kind of ironic because I recently read an article were Tarantino was calling out the Hunger Games for being a rip off of Battle Royle only for him to do something similar with his own films
@Largentina.
@Largentina. 3 күн бұрын
​@@awhimsyreader9015 Stealing ideas or shots is a bit different than stealing the entire premise and plot of a movie though.
@awhimsyreader9015
@awhimsyreader9015 3 күн бұрын
@@Largentina. yeah I know objectively stealing a premise is worse but I just think it's funny that he's against the general idea of stealing but then does it himself even if it's in a smaller scale sort of way
@vilkristproductions6772
@vilkristproductions6772 3 күн бұрын
​@@awhimsyreader9015 if you knew abt tarantino youd know you're *meant* to catch the references in his films. He doesn't steal to try to say he came up with it himself. Its an homage to earlier cinema
@Kaoruishere
@Kaoruishere 2 күн бұрын
@@vilkristproductions6772 Absolutely. Plus, he would rave about the movies he just paid homage to endlessly in the accompanying promo tour and REALLY wants you to watch them. I mean, Tarantino has a lot of problems, but let's not invent some for cheap gotchas, alright?
@ShellsGhost1
@ShellsGhost1 Күн бұрын
I attribute a lot of issues with modern filmaking with 3 main things. The Red Scare successfully purging all left leaning people out of hollywood and making sure it still hasn't covered. The second would be the Wallstreet influences of the 80's and their franchise model of production. Third would be the federal government completely redsuing to take any responsibility for regulating any and allowing the likes of Disney and others control and commodify every aspect of the industry. I will say that I LOVED Megalopolis however. I don't have any particular fondness for Coppola but I will say I found every frame to be comepletely metaphorical to include the time control not literally be freezing time. In a world where few original film get made it was refreshing. I don't know if it's Tik Tok but media literacy is abysmal right now. Hopefully films like Megalopsis can help people be exposed to odd interpretations let alone basic ones.
@willhemmings
@willhemmings 20 сағат бұрын
A glance at front covers of my film collection shows auteurship is frequent, but not where I expected. Directors names absent on Casablanca, The Godfather, Chinatown, Paris Texas, Dr Strangelove, Blade Runner, Annie Hall, Apocalypse Now, Moonlight and Godfather Pt 2. Directors and cast on Vertigo, Breathless, A Matter of Life and Death, City Lights, It Happened One Night, No Country for Old Men and The Piano. Director sole attribution on La Regle du Jeu, Ran, Solaris, Tokyo Story, Hana-Bi, L' Armee des Ombres, Spirited Away, Chungking Express, Alice in the Cities and Schindler's List. Director possessive on Citizen Kane, 2001 A Space Odyssey, Spirited Away and Rashomon; and director possessive dominant in FELLINI 8 1/2
@Anton-i2o
@Anton-i2o 10 сағат бұрын
The WGA has been fighting the proprietary directorial credit for a long time. It's a long standing fight between writers and directors.
@luisrizo8813
@luisrizo8813 2 күн бұрын
06:49; can anyone else but directors contractually get final cut...this answers the question.
@nikomiller
@nikomiller 2 күн бұрын
Thoughts on Chantal Akerman (an auteur) filming a long explicit sex scene starring herself and her actress in "Je, tu, il, elle"? Would you call that abuse?
@nikolaslamprou4637
@nikolaslamprou4637 2 күн бұрын
I really don't get the audacity of some of these people. Apocalypse now is one of my favourite movies but it's so obvious that Coppola's involvement wasn't the only thing going for it. What about the actual source material, heart of darkness?? Or perhaps Marlon Brando's performance?? I'm no filmmaker but I always appreciated David Lynch's approach to art. He always tries to remind us that art shouldn't be born out of suffering.
@poopyloopy7236
@poopyloopy7236 2 күн бұрын
good video, i agree with what you said about films working crew to death while they get shit pay and really no artistic credit. in your last point about cooper, i think people will tolerate a lot if they think someone has talent, i.e. the film is good enough. i think the reason why he gets clowned is because of the perceived difference in his ambition vs his actual output. also i think writers are pretty under appreciated not just in film but in tv and other entertainment, most people know nothing about the writers of a lot of their favourite works
@guillermo9631
@guillermo9631 2 күн бұрын
I don't understand your point? What does being a "genius" have to do with being a good person? Roman Polanski may be a genius director but he is also a rapist. Many great artists have very flawed lives and have been unkind to people working under them. Directors like Yasujiro Ozu and Akira Kurosawa were absolute dictators on their film sets which offsets the beautiful portrayal of humanity in their films. The idolatry the French critics held for auteurs was based on naive hero worship which is a folly of youth.
@Lola-lh2zb
@Lola-lh2zb Күн бұрын
I think the mention of their poor character is supposed to be a testament of how much social/societal tolerance male creatives are granted in general
@katherinealvarez9216
@katherinealvarez9216 3 күн бұрын
28:04 huh, interesting. I didn't know that.
@billybutcher4995
@billybutcher4995 Күн бұрын
The “kissing extras” thing on the megalopolis set was debunked and not true at all. Francis ford Coppola doesn’t strick me as that type of director. I just want to put that out there bc false allegations can be really harmful.
@disierra-amado5596
@disierra-amado5596 3 күн бұрын
Well you can be a genius or extremely talented and make a few bad films . Humans aren’t perfect …but to be honest I think very few directors are able to achieve the magnificent body of work that this man has and that’s something you can’t take away from him.
@Bernbombs-if6dg
@Bernbombs-if6dg 3 күн бұрын
I actually really liked Megalopolis, but it was mostly because I found it really funny, however it is true that the vast majority of people called auteurs are just white male directors
@johnnyrivas2619
@johnnyrivas2619 3 күн бұрын
Fantastic video, thanks for making it! I'm definitely subscribing. I especially appreciate you pointing out that Nolan is overrated, because holy shit is he ever. But film bros just lose their minds at the thought. See, it's not that Oppenheimer is tedious, it's that we don't understand Nolan's genius! And don't get me wrong, I think he's a good director and I really like some of his films, but I just don't get the hype that he receives and how film bros just fall over each other to praise him (and to berate those who don't think he's that good).
@naisammon4986
@naisammon4986 3 күн бұрын
Please don’t be so fast to think that guys don’t value Female directors. Yes, definitely more. Ladies are being given the gig but already I’m absolutely wild about both Janicza Bravo(Who made the underrated and hysterical Lemon and Zola which is definitely one of my top movies of the 2020s so far) and Rose Glass(Saint Maude and the absolutely beautiful and amazing Love Lies Bleeding).. Both of them are well on their way to earning my total Worship(haha! Yeah, I really like movies). What I’m saying is, I’m paying attention so I know that other guys must be too, it’s bullshit to have to wait this long for women to be allowed to have their say, untampered with and pure. Putting them in the running for “Auture” Status. Like I’m more than willing to give it if they keep giving me these fucking total bangers. Also, I mean, I can feel the change in perspective, the humor feels sharper and emotionally female films tend to feel more complex to me. I really like it. Men sometimes criticize women for being “too sensitive”, Well, in art I call that an asset. Oh yeah, and by the way, Christopher Nolan fucking sucks. Most overrated Director of all time I think. I can go into all the reasons why but I don’t want to write some massive dissertation. But yeah, I’m with you 100% maybe even more so, don’t let anybody tell you that Nolan is a genius with their noses turned up, His “big ideas” are juvenile and obvious and only mindbending if you’re a nitwit(“Holy Macaroni! some of the plot threads are running at different rates, I am kind of confused. I guess that means that this is like brilliant or somthing”NO! It’s simply confusing and a desperate attempt to make run-of-the-mill popcorn shit “feel “intellectual or something) OK, I like your channel, keep the videos coming!
@vilkristproductions6772
@vilkristproductions6772 3 күн бұрын
"6'4 and support feminism btw" ahh comment
@jamk2668
@jamk2668 2 күн бұрын
Chantal Akerman's "Jeanne Dielman, 23 quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles" was literally just ranked as the *number 1 film* in the latest Sight and Sound Top 100 poll, widely regarded as the most prestigious film list. Oddly enough, she just has a pretty surface-level "film bro" understanding of cinema, which is perfectly fine.
@Starkardur
@Starkardur 2 күн бұрын
The Godfather movies were excellent but Coppola didn't rule the shoot, as a matter of fact, he was being monitored the entire time, he couldn't get away with being the star of the show, which could be the reason why those films are infact as successful as they are.
@BradsPitts.
@BradsPitts. 3 күн бұрын
Megalopolis was great imo. It’s gotten way too much hate
@Largentina.
@Largentina. 3 күн бұрын
Is it hate or are they just opinions that differ from yours?
@BradsPitts.
@BradsPitts. 3 күн бұрын
@@Largentina. it’s an opinion that’s different than mine because they hate it? C’mon gurl, let’s pick up the pace
@crowbar996
@crowbar996 2 күн бұрын
​​@@Largentina.It's a bad movie but what it stands for is extremely inspiring for people with ambition for filmmaking.
@preciousbeing97
@preciousbeing97 3 күн бұрын
Hi Elle. I missed you.
@elleliteracy
@elleliteracy 3 күн бұрын
hey!!!
@HEWHOTAWNS
@HEWHOTAWNS 7 сағат бұрын
I feel like this ain't my video to comment on but hey amazing video love it and wildly underrated. But anyway the myth of the genius in any art be it music or painting or whatever is toxic in a masculine way because you have a select group of people putting up arbitrary rules and then a bunch of people saying this is how it's meant to be done and damn if that isn't reductive!!!! Fact is some if not most of the best art of all time isn't done by geniuses, sometimes it's done by people who don't even know what they are doing. But when a white old guy in the 60s does it it's a masterpiece but when a chick does it it sucks and that is fucking stupid!!!! Amazing video!!!
@zainmudassir2964
@zainmudassir2964 3 күн бұрын
Coppola proved to be a cop out
@applepiegurl123
@applepiegurl123 2 күн бұрын
no thank you so much for mentioning quinten tarantino because when i say this to people they think i'm crazy!!! but i'm like hes weird!! its weird to ask your coworker to do that!!!!!!!!!!! That's not just a character on a screen that's a person who's working and hes exploiting his power as director to make jerk material its weeeeiirrrrdddd oh my god at least ask for my consent first.
@RunningP123456
@RunningP123456 Күн бұрын
This is some 2016 ass content
@blendermen1070
@blendermen1070 2 күн бұрын
we should make movies about people that were close to genius, famous or important people. I think Priscilla by, ironically, Sofia Copolla, is a great example of that idea where the point of view is shifted outside of the narcissistic mind of people that have been told all their career that they were exceptionnal and important. Only showing the suffering caused by genius while still treating it as genius (and not the combination of artistic sensibility, technical skills, privillege and chance) is not enough. We should depict them as normal human beings, as flawed (but not the cohabitation of flaw and great virtue or genius, because this framing serves the excusing of bad behaviour) as anyone, if not more. We could also treat the subject of people who believe to be genius and act accordingly, but are not. Maybe this could put in perspective all of this. Of course if anyone has recommandation of movies that ressemble these ideas, please share them !!!
@zeynepgulsu1899
@zeynepgulsu1899 3 күн бұрын
so true
@entertainmentfan1463
@entertainmentfan1463 Күн бұрын
The "genius director" aka overrated white dude is basically just the creative version of the Hollywood "A List" actor. These are not people who are any better or talented then everyone else in film and TV. On the contrary the "A list" actors I'll argue are even worse than many "mid tier" actors. These are just Hollywood's hand selected choices on who they want to push down your throat as being "the best". The reasons can vary, but ultimately it comes down to these are the people the higher ups in Hollywood (CEOs, execs, high powered agencies, etc) has on a leash and they invested tons of money in. Also because these are the hand selected people Hollywood wants you to think is "the best", same Hollywood also basically gatekeeps on how gets to reach that level of fame and keep the majority of creators and actors away from that "A list" spot.
@Anton-i2o
@Anton-i2o Күн бұрын
Who are the "truly "great filmmakers then?
@entertainmentfan1463
@entertainmentfan1463 Күн бұрын
@@Anton-i2o I actually never really thought it through. I do know I'm going to have to look at all directors from everywhere and have a feeling at least someone from Japan should be mentioned.
@Anton-i2o
@Anton-i2o 20 сағат бұрын
@@entertainmentfan1463 There are geniuses in every artistic field...
@treenincove1726
@treenincove1726 Күн бұрын
31:43 HE WASN'T KISSING EXTRAS! IT HAS BEEN DEBUNKED! IT IS NOT TRUE! Be careful throwing false allegations at people. You could get sued.
@Javoxo
@Javoxo 3 күн бұрын
Please do more vids about films
@fdupbyfh
@fdupbyfh 3 күн бұрын
woah never been this early, slay
@Robert-d3m9c
@Robert-d3m9c Күн бұрын
I don't think Tarantino should be completely bashed for the strangling thing, i dont think he was being abusive or even apoaching abusive, i think his mindset was a complete cinephile one with the realism of the hands on her throat in a exact way, yes i think he was out his fetishes in his films but i really dont think he was on that on that situation. I feel like when spacey and Harvey went down in 2017 me too broke out and a few people got dragged in for nothing with some stories that were reaching, claiming bad behavior, Tarantino got one of them
@markant9534
@markant9534 3 күн бұрын
Also Coppola took credit for the Godfather movies and Apocolypse Now, yest the main source material for those movies were books, also at least Nolan Tarrantino and Scorsese have distinct styles and certain camera shots they like to use whereas Coppola doesn`t.
@MrDman9202
@MrDman9202 3 күн бұрын
This might literally be the most retarded comment ever.... ever film he has adapted from a novel he has LITERALLY put the authors name in the fiom title.
@petermj1098
@petermj1098 2 күн бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@MrDman9202Coppola has only made 3 highly influential films. Apocalypse Now drove him insane and even Hollywood doesn’t want him because he makes crazy financial risks.
@MrDman9202
@MrDman9202 2 күн бұрын
@@petermj1098 "only 3" 💀 how many have you made?
@petermj1098
@petermj1098 2 күн бұрын
@@MrDman9202 Coppola could have been making more films like Spielberg and Scorsese but he made the dumb decision to put his own money in the budget of Apocalypse Now making him liable for the delays. Even Coppola admitted the editor saved Apocalypse Now not cause the production was coherent.
@MrDman9202
@MrDman9202 2 күн бұрын
@@petermj1098 WTF are you talking about? Do you think the editor took apocalypse now away from coppola? Are you daft or something?
@user-xl5lc3qw5z
@user-xl5lc3qw5z 3 күн бұрын
how did George Lucas treat women? Have you made a video on that?
@emma-fy1xi
@emma-fy1xi 2 күн бұрын
did i dream it or is this a reupload
@luisrizo8813
@luisrizo8813 2 күн бұрын
28:01; hi, Seth Green.
@brennenspice6098
@brennenspice6098 3 күн бұрын
"The mythology of male genius" and shows Daniel Day Lewis - fucking wild. Absolutely bonkers. Maybe dicrapio, or plenty of others - but DDL has reached a level of uncanny craftsmanship that eveb baffles other greats.
@m0kkn049
@m0kkn049 3 күн бұрын
eveb
@RedStarProductionss
@RedStarProductionss 2 күн бұрын
Cope r tard
@eatectoplasm
@eatectoplasm 3 күн бұрын
wooooooo!
@stephennootens916
@stephennootens916 2 күн бұрын
I am going be blunt all this guys do not matter now. It is all about the studio's style and IP. The studio is now the true author and ot makes sense. These directors never made movies that racked in the cash that the studio controlled movies like the Marvel movies do. It is in end a business and it is now more profitable to keep the power were it belongs with the studio.
@RezzoCreeSavage69
@RezzoCreeSavage69 Күн бұрын
you're beautiful and them eyes omg i like them a lot.
@redbluebae4397
@redbluebae4397 3 күн бұрын
That cluuurrb clip, just reminds me of sm douchebags who think so high n mighty of themselves and lowly of women
@zooropa5722
@zooropa5722 Күн бұрын
Short answer: No, and that's a good and actually natural thing contrary to what feminists might think. Great auters will always exist - the art form of film was built by them, was revolutionized over and over again throughout the past century since its birth and will be kept alive by them in the future. Some people might find it politically incorrect for some reason (because they want to get riled up by anything), but the simple truth is that visual storytelling is and has always been a male artform. This has nothing to do with some kind of power structure but simply the fact that the men are evolutionarily more driven by visual instinct than women - this has been biologically proven long ago and is not a point of debate in the science and evolutionary community in the 21st century. The somewhat crudest example would be the difference of how easily men are attracted by women simply by looks (visual stimuli) compared to the other way around). Another example of the storyteller aspect would be the camp fire scenario: men are historically storytellers, you will always find way more men around the camp fire telling stories than women. And no, this has nothing to do with some 'patriarchy' or another feminist conspiracy theory, that's just how it is and how we evolved. Compare the number of male and female comedians for example, it's a similar thing, only with the 'comedy' element added, which is a whole other topic. So fortunately, the Genius Director is not 'finally dying', and the fact that you may seem to want that to happen for some reason does not exactly throw a flattering light on you or anyone with that mind set. The art of film is beautiful and essential to the human experience - men have invented it and will keep doing and dominating it. Women have their rightful place in it, as they should, and as they have had for many years now - but the men in this artform fortunately won't go anywhere.
@RezzoCreeSavage69
@RezzoCreeSavage69 Күн бұрын
hmu....lol fr tho
@familycorvette
@familycorvette Күн бұрын
You lost me at "white men."
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