The Myth of the Great Male Genius Needs to Die.

[@elleliteracy]

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[@joaquinvaleri7022]

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[@saqua608]

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[@randorandorando659]

Literally on a site created by a man. Super special ed😂

[@sigh1481]

You can't compare Kanye to Beyonce that was a horrible take.

[@KAIZORIANEMPIRE]

YOU are not going to compare beyonce, who can't even play an instrument or write well to kanye... someone that can play basic piano and make his aritstic world come to life... lol

[@alostkoi]

This is quite evident in the culinary world. It's a “feminine coded” thing, it's supposed to be the place a woman has to inhabit. Yet, all the most recognized/praised chefs are mostly men, to the point they disregard female chefs.

[@hydraian]

Familly cooking being for women but professional one for men. And still all those men go and talk about the influence of their mother's or grand mother's cooking.

[@Jtd1138]

Chefs don’t get popular characters like Ramsey do , most cook books are written by women, im a cook and honestly most female chefs I’ve worked with are good but tend to be way less insane so less interesting

[@pula.29]

​@Jtd1138 I find it really strange that people want these "geniuses" to be insane in order to be interested in them. And if a woman were to be insane but a "genius", most people would hate her.

[@Jtd1138]

@@pula.29 that’s true , its sad but that’s just media , people get famous for being stupid instead of smart

[@Joe-sg9ll]

there's a scene in a gangster movie that explains that. wmen cook day to day but men take over when it's important

[@Isabela845]

In portuguese, the gender of the noun changes to match the gender of the subject. So, "That man is a doctor" could be translated to "Aquele homem é um médico", and "That woman is a doctor", to "Aquela mulher é uma médica". You would think that with the word "genius" there would also be that variation, like "Aquele homem é um gênio" and "Aquela mulher é uma gênia", but there is no "female" form of genius in portuguese, just "gênio", in the masculine. I'm a native portuguese speaker so, naturally, I've known this my entire life, but just now, due to your video, I was able to understand the implications of that

[@DieAlteistwiederda]

Genius only has one form in German as well and our language is also highly gendered. It's das Genie and it's supposed to be neutral with the neutral article Das but you still see it applied to mostly men and women have to be so much more exceptional to be called that.

[@viriatothelusitani1203]

Portuguese is my native language and was thinking about it too!

[@jomana1109]

It’s a fun word, bc (1) it’s imported from french, which actually uses “Genie” for both genders despite the same spelling. (2) German has to have the masculine ending to apply the feminine one (-er, -rin) like for Ingenieur/in, another imported word!! (3) It seems to be a truly neutral word (just like it’s gender lol) bc it doesn’t have a masculine form! But on the topic of who’s called a genius, I simply think that it doesn’t matter who’s given the label bc the achievement (especially scientific) advances humanity, not a class of it! Further, we’re in the incipient part of female genius if you think about it, because we’re just over a hundred years of women being accepted into the scientific establishment… I believe there’s much much more to come but it’s frustrating to be at the dawn of something great and never see it flourish.

[@hydraian]

It is the name of the roman male god Genius, it's like being a Pygmalion or a Muse. Do they keep the same gender in portuguese too?

[@gscsilvavaladares7065]

But what about words such as magnata or artist(artista) , scientist(cientista)? These ones have a female like structure even tho they aply to both genders withiout a counter part.

[@rachellydiab]

The genius director trope drives me absolutely nuts - particularly when the screenwriter is often responsible for the world or story that the director is praised for! Most people will never know who wrote Jaws or Schindlers List but everyone knows Spielberg. And then as you say, there are hundreds of other people holding up these productions. I’ve actually been thinking about this a lot lately so looking forward to part 2!! Great essay as always - genius even ✨✨

[@winkcloud]

as i was learning french and realized réalisateur was the designation directors got i truly started thinking different. like... yeah... they REALIZED they film but... did they create it? not at all.

[@farrahaliceblack7453]

Yes!! I'm a screenwriter and I find it bizarre that I often have to go out of my way to find out who the writer was if it wasn't written by a writer/director. A similar thing happens in theatre- everyone calls it the producers show but not everyone always knows who wrote it, when producers are largely (for big productions) mainly the people to arrange the financing and marketing of the work. The whole world and characters wouldn't exist without the writer! Everyone involved brought the best ingredients but the writer wrote the recipe ❤

[@StomachPlug]

Honestly this has always been part of the great leader mythos, as if one person accomplished literally everything in a given project by directing it or being placed in charge of it even when they had no hand in things. 🫠

[@person1420]

And there are multiple directors in a film. There are teams of people. Like people responsible for lighting. Action directors. etc.

[@cassidyarnold505]

You know how many people are required to make a movie?

[@doodlebug1820]

When I was young I IQ tested in the Genius range and was pushed into expensive exclusive schools and it was a weird experience. I was encouraged to think of myself as better than others and allowed to be an asshole. I had to unlearn an enormous amount of things to fit into a normal work place and actually just being around normal people doing their job kind of woke me up to how the whole thing is a scam. I met a lot of actually smart people, much smarter than me, that nobody knows are smart except the people they work with. And a lot of the actually smartest people also tend to be humble and kind. I love what the younger generations are doing with internet media, deconstructing all this.

[@samf.s.7731]

No one tests emotional intelligence because they don't want to give it the credit it deserves. They also have no actual respect for women who excel in the same way men do. In fact, society tends to beat these women down for the obvious "threat" they pose to the idea that women can downhat men do better sometimes. A lot of internalized misogyny and good ole regular misogyny and sexism will beat a "genius" woman into "knowing her place".

[@coolchameleon21]

i experienced something similar, but on a much smaller scale. i was put in the gifted program at school (cringe), and was always being told that i was special. even as an adult, i have people telling me similar things and lamenting that i’m “wasting my potential”. i, like so many others with this story, turned out to simply be neurodivergent. now that i’m adult, my “intelligence” and “specialness” have become obsolete, as i’ve been in severe burnout for several years and can’t hold down a job. i realized that there are many people in the world who are far smarter than me after venturing out beyond a school setting. in all actuality, my “intelligence” boils down to decent pattern recognition skills and surface level knowledge on a wide variety of topics. i think being placed in the gifted program hindered me in a lot of ways. i didn’t get the help and skills that i actually needed to be successful long-term because the adults around me had blind confidence that i could just figure things out on my own. i also developed quite the complex from it because i used it to overcompensate for my lack of social success. i thought me being “smart” would overshadow all the less palatable parts of my neurodivergence.

[@arbyswitch5580]

My dad's got a 140 IQ and you bet your bip that he leverages that in conversation significantly more often than it is relevant (zero times is how often it is relevant) Its honestly just funny bc he's one of the dumbest people I know in a lot of ways, his social skills are severely lacking, his emotional intelligence is a joke, his ability to learn from his own mistakes has yet to be demonstrated 😂 he's been divorced twice and picks fights with both of his ex wives but hey, he's got a 140 IQ! good for him!

[@doodlebug1820]

@@coolchameleon21 sorry for what you are going through. Hope your burnout heals.

[@onbearfeet]

Oh, I feel this on a spiritual level. I grew up in a family full of geniuses--my father and brothers were all identified as "gifted" or "extraordinarily intelligent" at an early age, and I was tested as an afterthought. I scored on par with all the boys, but it wasn't considered significant in my case because, well, I was a little girl. The fact that I was reading Shakespeare for fun at age nine didn't mean much when my brothers were ALSO blazing through the curriculum, and were conveniently male. I was, at most, expected to make smart babies with a REAL genius someday. Of course, we all grew up, and today every single one of my surviving brothers is some kind of proudly venomous bigot (racist, misogynist, homophobe, some combination thereof), but it's excused because they're "burdened with genius". Meanwhile, I write books, teach writing and literature to the children of recent immigrants, and pick fights with the local neo-Nazis to distract them from their preferred victims, and I'm considered the family failure because I don't like chess and can't have babies. It's been a delight to watch my students redefine what genius means.

[@FishareFriendsNotFood972]

Ex wives roasting Hemingway is very healing to me, as a person who suffered through his books in High School and had beef even then with how he conceptualized women

[@billieseyelashes]

he does seem like an a**

[@joaquinvaleri7022]

The name Andreas means man

[@odichenwabuikwu9147]

Old man and the Sea SUCKS

[@jaminavestajugo3456]

Agreed! I have issues with how he conceptualizes women *and* men. Women in his books are shallow and shrill and get in the way of the macho man's authenticity. The men have to be hard, antisocial, and masochistic. It doesn't seem like a healthy ideal.

[@San-li9ml]

I enjoy his novels a lot, but yeah I dislike how women are treated in them. I had the same issue with Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep.

[@jessedarlin]

Mary Shelley is THEE female genius to me.

[@billieseyelashes]

yes! also virginia woolf for me.

[@larrykelly-kf5pp]

Look up Hildegard von blingen. Only just found about her.. medieval abbess, multi talented

[@CoquetteCygnet]

100% agree!

[@CoquetteCygnet]

Imo I would also say Hypatia of Alexandria, she was a brilliant teacher, mathematician and astronomer who was murdered by a religious mob.

[@jessedarlin]

@@jamesmccaul2945 cool I have a master’s degree and write professionally, but thanks for the tip ❤️

[@nicolahorynska3401]

Maria Skłodowska - Curie, please don’t erase her polish nationality, I’m so tired of people saying she was french

[@triloization]

Thank you for the comment, I will change may comment to include the polish name..

[@bobolecoco3321]

But did she not become french ?

[@nicolahorynska3401]

@@bobolecoco3321 I do not know how one becomes French - apart from being born in France - but she always said she was polish even called the element POLonium

[@isab2376]

She was naturalized French. That’s how she became French. You might not like it, but she was educated in France, made her work in France, and her work was financed by French people…. She did use her polish and French name together, and remained close to her country.

[@nicolahorynska3401]

@@isab2376 doesn’t change the fact that she was born polish and she kept using her polish surname. Saying she was just French is erasing her polish nationality

[@toomuchsci-fi]

I feel like this trope also gives an excuse for the bad behavior of some autistic men. Its always been frustrating for me because i dont get that same leeway as an autistic woman. Im expected to learn and understand constantly

[@Dojafish]

SO SO SO TRUEEE! Really some people really excuse behaviors because they have autism and that the other person should just brush it off. This sexist double standard is so frustrating to see.

[@Dojafish]

Also is it only me, but why so many people excuse the actions of some autistic men when it harms women? Like some of this men will literally hurt physically, verbally and emotionally the women in their life, but everyone around is like "they just can't control it🥺". LIKE???

[@toomuchsci-fi]

@@Dojafish exactly, the double standard is astounding

[@Alan_Duval]

F#@kin' *mic drop*

[@idreadFell365]

@@Dojafishthat’s because 1 society caters to men and 2 people think autistic people can never know any better cause they think autism is a disability(which it isn’t).

[@farrahaliceblack7453]

I remember being amazed as a kid that my mum told me when she was 12 she IQ tested as a 'genius' and turned down an invitation to join mensa. When I asked why she turned it down she just shrugged and said "It seemed like a cult of snobs and a waste of my time". Years later I turned down an offer to do my MA at the University of Cambridge because it gave me the same vibe. AND because now I have my rejection to cambridge in a frame on my wall because it makes for a fun story 😅

[@DieAlteistwiederda]

Geniuses regularly lack social skills especially if they are caught early and then sent to any kind of special school and don't interact with all the other people in the outside world. It's like rich kids never interacting with less fortunate kids and then not really developing that sense of just how fortunate they are. I've met one of these sheltered geniuses who rarely interacted with people his own age until adulthood and it shows so much. He doesn't have any diagnosis like autism that could explain some of his issues he just skipped those important developmental things like having to deal with some kids in school. All the different kinds of kids you meet in the average school where we live. I grew up in a neighborhood where we had anything from poor families trying to just make it through the month to middle class and going on vacations internationally at least once or twice a year. We also had different ethnicities and personalities we all had to deal with.

[@KindredKaye]

I did a Master’s program at… a certain university… for writers in the uk. Let’s just say it was one of the worst programs I’ve done in my life! Horribly snobbish and lumped writers into “commercial/genre fiction” and “literary fiction”. I was mocked for pointing out the sexism because no one would define what criteria they were using to define what made a work literary fiction vs commercial/genre fiction. Basically if a writer was a woman and financially successful, then she was commercial/genre. If a man was financially successful he was “revolutionary” and put into literally fiction

[@GreatestAuthorinFlorida]

@@KindredKayeTo be fair, genre and literary fiction should remain distinguished from one another. On an anecdotal note, all the readers I know who read romance novels and Harry Potter fan fic, seem averse to books like, The Bluest Eye, Blood meridian, or War and Peace.

[@KindredKaye]

@@GreatestAuthorinFlorida so then what is Frankenstein?

[@GreatestAuthorinFlorida]

@@KindredKaye lit fic that’s reads like genre fic. Same style as my own work. Peace to you.

[@mariaisabel-rb1gc]

I deeply feel the relation of genius in women being recognized only in sciences. Im very into humanities, language and writing and often my contributions are overlooked compared to that of my male peers. you cant quantify how well you write, how you can connect things well.

[@De_Selby]

Yeah. Female philosophers are very rarely talked about as well. I've rarely seen anybody tackle the works of any female philosopher. It's always Dostoevsky, Nietzche, Camus, Sartre or... basically anything but a woman's work.

[@vladimirazubcekova7727]

i think of jane austen as a female genius writer. thing is women authors in the past often hid under male name.

[@toraatoro1106]

here from D'angelo Wallace's recommendation, this video was phenomenal, definitely going to be watching more of your videos

[@navideology]

Same🎯🎯🎯

[@hondatetzuro]

Same here

[@ARareAndDifferentTune_13]

Same

[@aannnniiikkaa]

same. subbed straightaway. she put into words so many things for me!

[@Hypochondriac1997]

Which video did he mention this in? Would like to watch it next

[@thisisnotausernameXD]

*Edit: I want to be clearer. I was just pointing out that athletes have been referred to as geniuses in response to the video but it again usually falls prey to the bias the video talks about where they are overwhelmingly male. I'm not arguing for more female athletes to also be referred to as geniuses. We need to altogether stop perpetuating the idea of the singular genius in the first place, in male or female sports as well as other fields.* I have heard male athletes like Messi referred to as a genius in their sport but never female athletes. The only sport female athletes are truly respected in is tennis from my perception (this may also be because the pro version of other women's sports is relatively new) and even then, someone as accomplished as Serena is not considered a genius (afaik).

[@coolchameleon21]

simone biles is arguably the greatest athlete of all time but people (men) are always downplaying how extraordinary she is

[@Iamhere829]

@@coolchameleon21 men are always downplaying women..I simply ignore what a male has to say about anything a woman has achieved.. Men live in a different, easier world, women are different, our world and our struggles are different, we are the ones who actually run the world, both biologically and intellectually .. I just wish us women were united and so many of us weren’t brainwashed into stepping on other women for a men’s gaze (which will inevitably humiliate her)..

[@seto749]

Genius isn't the ultimate compliment in tennis; inspiration tends to be done down by perspiration most of the time.

[@andreavolpi5131]

​@@Iamhere829 Complete misandry and delusions of omnipotence.

[@ultimaxkom8728]

@Iamhere829 _"Men live in a[n] easier world, women [...] are the ones who actually run the world, [...]"_ Uhuh. Btw, I hope those kiwi (birds) family are safe.

[@theprinceofinadequatelighting]

Hedy Lamarr was my go-to when you asked which female genius came to mind. She technically doesn't defy the stereotypical scientist woman genius categorization, since she's considered a genius due to her science and tech contributions, but she _was_ an actor so I feel like she at least gets an honorable mention as far as "creative female genius" goes. Edit: Also, same technicality as Lamarr, but I think Ada Lovelace also qualifies since she had the idea to use Babbage's analytical engine to write music (in addition to, you know, being the first ever computer programmer).

[@fionashaw9097]

I feel like one of the most damaging outcomes to the way we see genius is the idea that these men achieved everything on their own. It's obvious for film directors, but actually none of these people achieved what they did on their own. A scientist heads a lab of fellow scientists, many of whom are students, and together they do the work over many years to make a discovery. We now know that many brilliant writers had a brilliant wife who edited all their work, but they also had someone to cook and clean, and they had editors and publishers as well. I think if we acknowledged that achieving something great is a group effort, and that we need everyone to play their part, we would see a lot more people getting involved in the work needed to create these great works or discoveries, and I believe we would achieve a lot more if we had a mindset of working together to achieve.

[@Chuck_EL]

As much as i respect what Einstein figured out in the quantum physics world Referring to him as a genius especially when hes partly responsible for the atomic bomb is unsettling to me

[@AshanBhatoa]

​​@@Chuck_ELWhy raise his partial responsibility for nuclear weapons detract from his proficiency in his field? Could he control the world's militaries research into nuclear physics?

[@TheNwr1]

@@Chuck_ELI think that’s taking it a bit too far. There’s pros and cons to every technological development, to every scientific discovery…at least, the ones of immediate relevance. I don’t think finding scientific principles is enough to suggest someone is personally responsible for how they are weaponized, in the same way that a factory worker at an auto plant isn’t responsible for the car they helped build being used as a car bomb.

[@hothemeep1219]

​@@Chuck_ELYou know nothing about physics don't you ?

[@Eldorado-n9e]

Those who actually make the discovery, who command, who have the will, are the ones to be credited.

[@stink..]

I’m just really tired of people thinking Elon is articulate genius when most of the things he says are either crazy conspiracies, really weird uncomfortable things, or just fake deep thoughts. Yeah sure spacex and Tesla are cool & advanced invention endeavors but Elon isn’t all that articulate as people make him to be.

[@AZ-qw1kz]

Also elon has nothing to do any of the engineering or inventions at SpaceX or Tesla, he just made himself CEO and took all the credit because he has the power to do that because he lucked into money

[@GaneshPalraj1991]

Dumb takes all around. L women take.

[@texaspoontappa2088]

⁠@@GaneshPalraj1991ok so the previous comments properly articulated their thoughts and opinions based on fact, and all you said was "L women take". Might wanna rethink your own intelligence level if you're willing to go to bat for elon musk.

[@coolchameleon21]

elon is not the brain behind either of those operations. he just leeches off of other people’s ideas and had a cash infusion from daddy

[@coolchameleon21]

@@GaneshPalraj1991L rage bait

[@buginashirt]

Saffo was a lyrical genius, her poems are pretty much the foundation of Catullo’s poetry which has been inspiring artists to this day

[@Ohana9999]

*Sappho

[@buginashirt]

@@Ohana9999 I’m Italian, we use the translation I wrote… her name is in Ancient Greek language

[@CleverUsername69420]

@@buginashirt that’s so interesting that you spell it differently. I do like it though. There’s something elegant about that spelling

[@marcelle8828]

@@buginashirt her name in ancient greek is σαπφώ, though, so Sappho is definitely closer than Saffo

[@buginashirt]

@@marcelle8828it’s just a phonetic issue, every language reads symbols (letters in this case) in different ways. In Italian the ph sound is directly translated in F or FF (in this case the latter) There’s nothing wrong with either of the translations… why do we have to argue about something that has been studied for hundreds of years by so many experts? Sometimes “stuff can be two things”

[@blkcat-art]

The female genius who comes to mind is Yayoi Kusama. I find her work so impressive, and I feel like her art can speak to anyone who sees it. She hasn't stopped working all these years, even after admitting herself to a psychiatric clinic.

[@zchularoceribfjan]

Oh, yeah, amazing 🤩!

[@SayisSpeakin]

Ohhhh this is a great pick! She’s awesome!!😊

[@milkman4743]

I remember doing a brief study of her and Maya Lin's work (i absolutely love her monument for vietnam veterans and the civil rights memorial) kusama has always stood out to me and I'm so madly in love with her work and everything she does

[@egm3912]

Two women I would think of, if I was told think of a “femme genius” would be Mary Shelley and Hypatia of Alexandria

[@kerycktotebag8164]

They're figureheads for what was actually tireless, concerted, organized group effort. People mistake the emblematic person for how history is actually made. Shoulders of giants, etc, etc...

[@arcanineryu]

I feel like an awful lot of the time when men call themselves stuff like leaders they actually just mean figureheads 😕 Like "team leaders" who actually have most of the work done by managers and secretaries. Or "heads of household" when they don't even know what grade their kids are in or how to make a doctors appointment.

[@larrykelly-kf5pp]

Agree the word gets misused but Leonardo da Vinci etc. I think just as many women are true original thinkers but how many around them supported and promoted them?

[@crapshoot]

There are no giants, only a lattice of average-sized people

[@rin-eri]

Very thought provoking! When you said "stop and think of a female genius" had to really stop and think. Marie Curie actually came to mind first, but I kept thinking, because you'd already mentioned her in the video and that's low hanging fruit. Jane Goodall came to mind, but I watched a video about her JUST before this one. I think she's a valid answer, but I REALLY wanted to think of one on my own. Someone who redefined or made significant advancements in their field... the name I came upon was Sasha Banks (now going by Mercedes Monè). She is a pro-wrestler. Arguably the most talented of the Four Horsewomen of pro-wrestling, and around 2015 she led what's now called the Women's Revolution in WWE. Previously women's wrestling was just seen as a sexy sideshow. But she innovating wrestling/acting techniques took women's wrestling from side show to main event. Literally. Is so amazing. My favorite wrestler. All the same, though, the point of the thought exercise is taken. It was way too hard for me to think of an answer. I kept coming upon names of accomplished women. But I kept tripping up. They're ACCOMPLISHED, yes, but GENIUS? I am sure that's the bias you wanted me to see in myself. And I did. But I stand by my answer. Sasha Banks is a genius.

[@ZachDift-kc4nk]

Hedy Lamarr - her innovation helped make possible a wide range of wireless communications technologies, including Wi-Fi, GPS, and Bluetooth. She tried to share her invention with the Navy back then but they basically dismissed her bc they didn’t really get the genius of her idea (which she copatented) and thus didnt know how to make use of it when she first shared it with the government. Also the 2 co-creators of CRISPR - Jennifer Doudna and I think Emmanuelle Chapentier. CRISPR REVOLUTIONIZED the field of genetic engineering and gene splicing. They lowkey help human advance several decades with their invention. There’s so many more brilliant women. It’s too sad hardly anyone knows their names.

[@mirabela1344]

Marie Curie her actually name is Maria Skłodowska Curie and she's polish 👏 I noticed that people erase her original lastname (Curie is her's husband lastname)

[@ryanfliegelman3166]

First one that came to mind for me was Maria the Jewess. She was a alchemist and glassworker at the beginning of the new millenia who innovated a variety of new techniques and glass apparatus. There are still pieces of equipment used in labs and even in kitchens that are pretty unanimously attributed to her as designer.

[@gillianomotoso328]

Two other MCs: Maria Callas, and Mariah Carey. Both surely fit the bill.

[@Ohana9999]

I'm writing my bachelor's thesis on Victor Frankenstein & how his male genius God complex led to the demise of everyone including himself, so the timing that u have is IMMACULATE hahaha thank you for this❤❤❤

[@thecollector6746]

Victor Frankenstein was a fictional character, misandrist dolt.

[@roshalayegh8630]

​@@thecollector6746yeah no shit. By this logic no one should analyse any literary work 😂

[@thecollector6746]

@@roshalayegh8630 Tell me more about how you either lack basic reading comprehension skills and or you can't actually refute a word I said so you resort to trying to change the subject.

[@thecollector6746]

@@roshalayegh8630 Tell me more about how you and the argument you are defending is trying to seriously critique the psychology of men in general using a fictional mad scientist created by a YT, 19th Century Woman, but I'm the one who is being ridiculous here.

[@olivia9553]

@@thecollector6746 yeah you sound like you know nothing about literary analysis and the history of scholarship on frankenstein

[@gabbytheartfriend]

I also think it's really interesting how women whose achievements are folded into the "genius" men's lives are completely forgotten. Einstein was revolutionary, but you know who contributed hugely to his work and worked side by side with him? His wife, whose name people don't even remember, just that she was his wife. It's really sad.

[@kant.68]

Is you feminist who made phrases like "behind every great man there's a great woman" misoginistic. Because before it was said all the time, acknowledging the time and efforts their waves played in their lifes. But this is the I'll of feminism. Your feminist mind makes it impossible for you to understand that some people, when they love somebody else, are willing to help up EXPECTING NOTHING IN EXCHANGE. But you can't comprehend this because it requares self sacrifice and true love. And feminist are all bitter womanchildren. But Fine, what about the 100s of male scientist like Newton or Mendel then ? What excuse are you gonna use ??

[@youneversawme.5151]

​@@kant.68 did you have a stroke while writing that?

[@kant.68]

@youneversawme.5151 Yes, how did you know ?

[@harriyanna]

"a man's baby juice" IM SCREAMING

[@ecocodex4431]

Ultimately I think one of, if not the, most brilliant woman who ever lived would be Hedy Lamarr. She was a fantastic inventor and is the person who's inventions paved the way for Wifi, GPS, Bluetooth, and the internet as we know it. And she did it all while ALSO being drop-dead gorgeous, and a fantastic actress! I can't imagine being able to juggle even a fraction of that brilliance!

[@kabina7994]

i am so sorry to be nitpicky, but Marie Skłodowska Curie. I would not point that out if not the fact that she made multiple points about being known under HER name, not only her husband's. Plus, in erasing her name, you also erase her Polish identity - which to her was important enough to name an element after. The whole world makes an effort to pronounce Polański's surname, even though he's literally evil. You learn Lewandowski, Krasiński, even if anglicised. You can make a habit of saying Skłodowska.

[@emiliap8790]

Yes yes yes yes!!!

[@elleliteracy]

@@kabina7994 my bad, will keep that in mind in future!

[@moonstone___]

@@jayess1363 this CANNOT be how you actually talk.

[@thetaureanmisanthrope]

My 6th grade teacher, Ms. Barbara Guise, is a genius, a HERO, and a HEALER.❤ She was a hidden gem among educators; my own personal Ms. Marva Collins.❤ She reminded me that I was a beautiful girl who was worthy of love, respect, and acknowledgement while my parents were in the middle of a separation. I'll never forget her.❤

[@ArvidRanta]

This topic isn't about you.

[@thetaureanmisanthrope]

@@ArvidRanta Obviously it is because out of all of the comments to respond to, you chose to respond to lil' ol' me. Thanks for reinforcing my importance.❤️

[@ArvidRanta]

@@thetaureanmisanthrope Cope, is a hell of a drug.

[@thetaureanmisanthrope]

@@ArvidRanta You're still here. I win again. Can't get enough of me can you?🤭

[@ArvidRanta]

@@thetaureanmisanthrope Yassss queen!!! I'm here for you all day. Cuz you is a hero and a healer. You go gurrrl !!

[@ritasprinkle5098]

honestly I feel like van Gogh is always overlooked when it comes "genius" artist who we excuse of bad behavior. He did not treat women well and everyone seems to forget that. There were several bars he was banned from for his sexual harassment of women

[@nont18411]

I think it’s mainly because he’s mainly being put in a category of “the tortured artist”, which is kinda problematic trope of its own.

[@khaashbal6407]

I feel like the idea that "geniuses" are eccentric and defy social norms is not baseless, because people who have a tendency towards openness and creativity genuinely do have a tendency toward a lack of convention, it's sorta just in the nature of a creative person to be original yk, but the idea has been severely exaggerated and should not be used to excuse bad behaviour, someone's intelligence shouldn't be valued so much that it transcends the moral values of others. The value of the mind over all else I think is at the heart of a shit ton of oppression

[@dieselbaby]

It's very accurate, actually. People who have true genius-level IQ, more often than not, lie somewhere on the scale between (in the best possible cases) being mildly eccentric/antisocial to the other end where the struggles they encounter attempting to communicate and interact with those who sit closer to the mathematical mean IQ lead to a such immense feelings of frustration and eventually resentment that they choose to voluntarily self-isolate from society, typically going into hermit mode. A perfect example of someone like this would be a man named Arturs Silovs, you can look him up if you're interested, he's believed to be among the most intelligent people to have ever lived, and it ruined him.

[@animerage1862]

I don't really believe "geniuses" exist, sure there's a variety of intelligence, but those dubbed "geniuses" were those that not only had the intelligence needed for their fields, but the connections and luck needed to be successful in that field in that time. We put people on pedestals all the time and it doesn't often do us any good. People can contribute to the progress of humanity and still be awful people that shouldn't be worshipped. Idk, just my two cents.

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

it was the other side of the retarded coin before retired iq tests so it used to be a thing but you only needed to score thirty points above average

[@Chuck_EL]

I literally shake my head when i hear anyone refer to serial killers as geniuses

[@commandery3574]

100%, even with someone like Kanye West - his mother happened to know the producer No ID, and that's how he got his foot in that door

[@tamago2474]

The genius I thought of was Sylvia Plath despite not having read any of her work 🤔 Great video as usual!

[@larrykelly-kf5pp]

Yep, her poetry was pretty original and influential I think. I could be wrong

[@emilym.2109]

i definitely recommend reading her work, especially the bell jar. she truly was a genius

[@motaku220]

she was very racist to Asians in the bell jar so ironically yes she is the genuis shown in the video

[@MissMoontree]

"The male body provided all the energy for procreation"... Truly words of a genius. Lol men discrediting the hard work of pregnancy once again. See, men taking credit for what women did is ancient.

[@NatBKyiv]

I cringed so hard I almost turned the video off. He sounded so immature and insecure. I didn't know if I should laugh or cry

[@vladimirazubcekova7727]

nah it only provided sperm. needed half of genes and thats it. nothing more. everything else was provided by egg and womans body

[@roxassora2706]

The woman who wrote "The Yellow Wallpaper" and the woman who created Sierra games are geniuses. Ada Lovelace too.

[@LaundryFaerie]

Charlotte Perkins Gilman?

[@allisongregory392]

At some point when Rick and Morty was getting popular I read a comment with somewhat broken English calling attention to how the voice actor for Rick would intentionally stutter to give himself time to think 'and that's why he's better than all of you.' That part of the sentence was so unnecessary and weird? It's a competition to them. Either they are competing to decide who has the best idol or they are competing to see who is the biggest fanatic of the best idol. They can't compete with the idol himself so instead of comparing themselves to him directly they put him on a pedestal to discourage anyone else from thinking about comparing them. The word genius gets thrown around for men and it has come to mean nothing. A genius is just a popular man with a talent of some kind. Meanwhile in female artist spaces we will gush about strengths of artists we're inspired by or how nice they are or oh this one's my favorite have you heard of her? There is no need to make it a competition.

[@coolchameleon21]

jordan peterson fanboys in a nutshell 😂

[@davidcrawford9026]

Why can't girls be competitive?

[@CelesteLunaRael]

Yeah I notice when women talk about things, it's not really much about this pointless pride of being the best, knowing the best, but rather there's usually more about enthusiasm and absorbing info. That's not always the case as with men and women I interacted on my own daily experience. But it seems something that happens on many people.

[@crispysnake1569]

Maria Skłodowska Curie, she kept her own surname after marrying Curie and I wish people respected that. If everyone can remember and pronounce Dostoyevsky, they should also remember her surname.

[@thevillainousqueenofhearts4976]

I try but I definitely can not pronounced Dostoevsky... I always butcher it and thus whenever I speak about him to another person I always feel dumb cause of that mispronounction... 😅

[@NatBKyiv]

English speakers have huge problem with slavic last names. ESPECIALLY polish

[@noctap0d]

20:45 Yeah, right? I did the same exercise and I was surprised Simone de Beauvoir didn't appear in any list. Nor Frida Kahlo. Nor Mary Shelley. Nor Elizabeth I. Nor effing Hedy Lamarr!

[@emilianoherrera5310]

Because Frida Is not a genious. Most of her paintings were finished by her husband. Remedios Varo though... 🤯

[@noctap0d]

@@emilianoherrera5310 I mean, my point was more about the fact that there are a lot of women to choose from for those lists, but now my curiosity has sparked 😆 Where can I read more about Rivera finishing Frida's paintings? About Remedios Varo, thanks for mentioning her. I didn't know her, but I'm fascinated by her paintings 💜

[@buginashirt]

I’m Italian and I just realized that there is no feminine declination for the word ‘genius’ (genio) that doesn’t sound like a fake word

[@SidheKnight]

Weird. There is one in Spanish ("genia") and it doesn't sound made up at all (it's often used, though not as much as its male counterpart).

[@buginashirt]

@@SidheKnight that’s actually great!!! we can use the term “genia” too, but the Accademia della Crusca (our language institution) doesn’t accept it as the female counterpart to “genio” … it’s kind of a “made up” way to use a feminine term, but in actuality “genia” in Italian refers to the Ancient Greek word to indicate family or descendants (I just researched this to be sure) I really hope we can learn something from our Spanish speaking cousins ✨

[@_tripalong]

Latin was kind of sexist I guess. Its derivative languages suffer from this. Portuguese has the same issue.

[@sofiastj]

31:30 I was told (by my woman doctor) my IUD insertion would be "just a pinch" and I didn't need to take any pain killers 🥴 then I had to go to work right after.

[@argusfleibeit1165]

My theory is women doctors self-select to the girls who didn't miss school due to menstrual cramps.

[@bdink2605]

I got lucky with mine, I think it’s because my gynecologist is a nurse practitioner and not an MD so has the bedside of a nurse but higher qualifications. She was very honest and told when they measured my uterus it was feel like it was in my stomach because of pressure. She told me it would hurt and explained every single step before and during. And she was right it hurt like hell but if she had lied to me or downplayed it i wouldn’t been pissed

[@sofiastj]

@@bdink2605 she's been so kind and caring to me, so it really caught me off guard.

[@brandnewmotorbike]

My IUD insertion was more painful than giving birth, and I had no epidural.

[@sofiastj]

@@brandnewmotorbike omg

[@noctap0d]

Answering your question at the end, I would conceive "geniusness" as the ability of creating something new and original using personal principles, rules or ideas, usually facing the status quo. I feel that a lot of the time people use "genius" as synonymous to "great" and I don't think they're the same thing. Genius is someone who can put something new into the world that ideally it wouldn't exist without their unique input. But beyond that, we need recognize the privilege and luck that allows for geniuses to exist. We don't exist in a vacuum.

[@DumiNihi]

Ada lovelace should be considered a genius

[@Suhaylyalloo]

Here are some geniuses and their invetions: WIFI= Hedi Lamar Period pads= Beatrice Davison Dish washer= Josephine Cochrane Windshield wipers= Mary anderson Closed circuit tv= Mare van brittan brown Dr Gladys west= GPS These lovely ladies are geniuses ❤

[@RandomSwiftie13]

My first thought of a 'female genius' is Taylor Swift. She writes all of her own amezing songs and is a brilliant buisness woman. She even turned her masters getting stolen into a positive and a stepping stone of her career by re-recording them and fans will obviously on her side will buy it no matter what.

[@Bigpussy.sloppp]

I don’t like Taylor swift or her music but she can write some amazing lyrics. It’s unfortunate that people disregard her talent

[@beebop-girl2132]

That last shot of Marie Curie sitting surrounded by all those men and being presented with a medal is very touching :) I've never seen her in a video!

[@jagodastaszak4069]

Maria Skłodowska Curie

[@evif9377]

I really only enjoy artistic works done by women so my list of geniuses is huge: Jane Campion, Margaret Atwood, Virginia Wolf, Glenn Close, Doja Cat, Kate Bush, Viola Davis, Greta Gerwig, Mary Daly, Hildegaard of Bingen, Tina Fey blah blah blah, my list goes on forever. Remember that we have been forced to centre men at every point and put energy into them and their children. Time to centre ourselves and each other as women.

[@Stratmanable]

"Genius" is the most overused and misused word in the English language.

[@dieselbaby]

Nope, that would be "literally".

[@spaghettiking7312]

I am autistic, and I've been called genius many times by many people. I can say that a genius can remain arrogant and self-centered insofar as that person is comfortable enough or coddled enough financially. I needed to be humbled by poverty to see my own arrogance. The time I sacrificed for achievements or projects in place of loved ones and nature wasn't worth it. To not be remembered, some would say, is not to have lived; but to not live in order to be remembered doesn't sound like much of a life either.

[@DebErelene]

Maya Angelou was my genius pick.

[@chalkandcheese1868]

Lmfao

[@ArvidRanta]

Holy...🤣

[@AkiVainio]

For the record, my female genius was Margaret Hamilton, the originator of software engineering, my field. I also thought about Karin Dreijer, but they identify as genderqueer and prefer they/them (or the Swedish equivalent), so out of scope.

[@AkiVainio]

Additionally, as I've had some time to digest this, here's two more names that might not come up very often, but have definitely had a huge impact on the culture I love: Murasaki Shikibu wrote the first novel (although, admittedly, I can't really imagine how an 11th century Japanese novel could have had much influence on the art form here in Europe) and Alice Guy invented movies as an art form.

[@WalterBrunat]

@@AkiVainio Weird, I say the first novel would be Asinus aureus by Apuleius, published in the late 2nd century. However I know the first cyberpunk novel was Thea von Harbou's Metropolis in 1925.

[@AkiVainio]

@@WalterBrunat Not an expert on this, but as I understand it, picaresque novels are not counted as "real" novels. I really couldn't say and there might be different schools of thought on this.

[@sydneykeith6059]

Heddy Lamar, fucking genuis.

[@samarajade17]

I said the same fr

[@ArvidRanta]

Uhm...no...just no.

[@herlenicecold]

nah😂😂😂

[@Bigpussy.sloppp]

@@ArvidRantathe woman who paved way for inventions such as the bluetooth and Wi-Fi? Not a genius? Hm

[@Bigpussy.sloppp]

@@herlenicecoldwhat

[@aaronjclarke1973]

You’ve made some great points. Thanks for addressing the issue who counts as genius because there are many geniuses out in the world. However due to poverty, race, gender , sexuality and mental illness many will be overlooked and not given the opportunity to nurture their skills.❤❤

[@kant.68]

You must leave a mark in history to be remembered as a genius. Is not a human right, the world doesn't give a damn if you're a genius but can't go to school because of X.

[@Bigpussy.sloppp]

@@kant.68nope. The literal definition of a genius is someone who has exceptional intelligence. You don’t have to make a mark in your respective field to be considered one. Many women who were extremely intelligent in literally anything were bent over on the floor scrubbing with a sponge instead of going to school to further use their intelligence as a tool.

[@Bigpussy.sloppp]

@@kant.68do you know the definition of a genius?

[@ohdreamaker]

the only malegenius i accept is boygenius😞

[@azural8347]

Jimmy neutron core

[@ginnysanderson6934]

This video essay was so interesting and insightful, thank you! I’m so sick of the trope of a genius man and his annoying wife who just doesn’t understand him and is holding him back!

[@chelsbells27]

As a former Neil Gaiman fan, this video is very healing. Also, Chappell Roan is a genius.

[@ruthiebee11]

my first thought for female genius was fiona apple because i just listened to 'criminal'. nina simone and jimi hendrix were also geniuses.

[@coolchameleon21]

kayne reminds me of trump. just a mediocre man with endless amounts of audacity and too much money

[@wooogie672]

when you asked us to come up with a “female genius,” my first thought was ada lovelace lol. i’m majoring in math and recently found out about her and i’m mad that she’s not super well-known. she was the daughter of the famous lord byron (he was kinda a deadbeat though 🤣) and was an amazing mathematician; came up with the first proto-computer program back in the 19th century! edit: also!! someone else i would consider a “female genius” would be hildegard von bingen, who was a nun back in the medieval era (she has saint status as well iirc). she was a writer, as well as one of the first composers of what we now know as “western classical music.” formal music notation in europe was just starting to become a thing during that time and a woman composing during that time, *especially* a woman who’s music is still known to us today, is really amazing imo

[@livthedream5885]

Some female geniuses I thought of in Humanities and arts are Hannah Arendt, Sylvia Plath, Remedios Varos, the Brontë sisters, and Tori Amos.

[@thisisnotausernameXD]

@@livthedream5885 Omg Remedios Varo acknowledged for her genius!

[@joba4817]

One really cool thing about studying STEM is you get exposed to people who were shunned during their time due to discrimination. People like Emmy Noether. Einstein called her a "creative mathematical genius" and Noether's theorem was used to complete his General Relativity. Because she was a woman she was only offered unpaid internships/assistant positions at some universities despite being such a significant mathematician.

[@k_d8859]

My female genius is Vivienne Westwood, icon literally 👜👑

[@meeplol802]

Here from D’Angelo on “Fellas is it racist to call out misogyny” Really love your commentary

[@Tea_princess]

I admit that my first thought was Maria Skłodowska-Curie (I'd like to excuse myself by pointing that I'm Polish and she's an only Polish Nobel prize winner in chemistry and physics). My next candidates were Rosalind Franklin and Jeanne d'Arc.

[@ellasoriginalchannel9713]

I really appreciate this video, but I really wish instead of saying ”bad behavior” you would say ”abusive/violent behavior”. Children sometimes behave badly. Lets call adult predators behavior what it is and not downplay it and accidentally almost sugar coat it. Thank you.

[@spenx09]

Love that this video dropped right after a certain youtuber being called a "genius" for tricking us by gainig weight and losing it, I guess...

[@leeann1444]

My genius is Joni Mitchell, now and forever. "Between the forceps and the stone."

[@n.n7445]

her name was Maria SKŁODOWSKA-Curie; please. She chose to hyphenate her name when she got married for a reason instead of changing it completely to her husband's name, lets not forget what her actual name is. And I know, even the Nobel price website or whatever lists her as just Curie, but that's inaccurate and hurtful to her. Other than that, I loved this video - lots of interesting information and insight:)

[@karolalzate5772]

Björk is a creative genius

[@scretladyspider]

I thought of two women who weren’t Marie curie then felt weird about forgetting her

[@triloization]

Dr. Sktodowska-Curie won two Nobel prizes. She is the definition of Genius in my eyes. And she was a badass. Sapho, Beauvoir, Marry Shely, Serena and Venus, Celine Dion, Hildegard von Bingen, Elisabeth I... All from different fields, but all a genius in their field. I wonder how many more women could have changed the world, if there had not existed gender apartheid for such a long time in history (in some places still is).

[@FatemaLiya]

Dr Strickland went to my university and she is heralded as a genius in campus

[@badcow4936]

My female genius was Shelley Duvall

[@summerstargrrrl]

toni morrison is one of the only people i consider to be a true genius and i think it’s mostly because i did my senior capstone on her. our professor started off the class by having us read her nobel prize acceptance speech and keep that in mind for everything of hers we read. i figure after reading all her writing, it’s undeniable that she’s a genius, unfortunately most people don’t take the time and consideration to do so

[@jacobdavis9547]

Without having watched a second of the video yet, can we not all agree that there are both male and female geniuses?

[@_tripalong]

Why tf would you comment before watching the video. Do you think she disqualified male geniuses? Lmao the insecurity 😂

[@millenna83]

I frequently think about how ridiculous House md would be if the character was female. Middle aged woman with a limp and an attitude? And then make all men swoon over her because she's a genius? The idea is laughable. I still liked the show though.

[@unburdenedcatcreature]

I haven’t finished the video yet and I got about halfway through the House series but WHO is falling over House??? He isn’t popular with most women as far as I recall, the man is a mean bastard 😂

[@millenna83]

@@unburdenedcatcreature both Cuddy and Cameron were in love with him. And I have my doubts about Wilson 😊

[@Tim_G_Bennett]

I'm a man and I think House is insufferable.

[@chalkandcheese1868]

​@@millenna83Well women do swoon over men like that, that's just a fact it's nobody's fault.

[@Fearia6]

Whoever wrote Thunder Perfect Mind was a genius. The author is unknown, but if you've read it, you know. I mourn for the millenia of genius women lost to time, all over male ego.

[@palomadorrego3266]

16:34 I am from Perú, i have 15 and in high school, in History class we talk about that, and another thing is that when is science class talk about geniuses, they first they ALWAYS mention is Albert Einstein, same a Shakeaspeare, that both were at least machists for the time they were famous. Or misunderstud. I liked your history class about patriarchy. And my mom still believes that thanks for the Spanish, we are evolve, we were not left behind believing that the God Inti was our God (My family is white, middle class and both of my parents were religious) I am a closeted lesbian, a minority and my dad works making robotic stuff being a white man, privilege, so yeah. I love loved your video. I was moved. If i could i'd give 100 hundred likes, was really educative.

[@jamesonstalanthasyu]

I'm just reminded of jd vance "childless cst lady" statement was more a dig at how women who are all profession/work and not mothers are lesser. And so even if they do push as hard as men at work, they are still not properly recognized for their achievements.

[@JustWonderingAloud]

Moral of the story: Create and own the game, and you control the winners and losers. Let’s step up our game to lift others, not just a select few, and stop waiting for 'them' to choose or deem us worthy of their esteem.

[@archanashreedhar5089]

The female genius I thought of was Hedy Lamarr.

[@marnenotmarnie259]

aurora was the first name that came to mind for me! also mary anning, maybe not genius? but EXTREMELY under discussed. she made some super super cool discoveries (eg. the first complete plesiosaur skeleton, the first TWO almost complete pterosaur skeletons, coprolites, and a bunch more other stuff. she also may have been gay so double whammy of iconicness) . mary shelley's another important one that isn't talked about enough. also ada lovelace, aka the first computer programmer (interesting how she doesn't come up at all in google search results for first computer), frida kahlo (not exactly a nice person though), and potentially maria anna mozart, who was a child prodigy and likely helped her younger brother (yes the one you're thinking of) write his music. but of course he was the one encouraged to continue a musical career into adulthood, and meanwhile she was not just discouraged but prevented from having a career, as her parents wanted her to stay home and find a husband. of course. i'm sure there are a lot more but these are the ones that i first think of

[@marnenotmarnie259]

also can't forget how much progress in aerospace engineering (especially during the space race) SHOULD have been attributed to women. that one's better known now because of the book/movie hidden figures. i wanna say there were also women heavily involved in the development of early video games as well but i can't remember for sure and need to stop going down rabbit holes so i can clean my room lol

[@thomasgrasha]

Hot take. The Catholic Church gives mad props to female geniuses: The Virgin Mary, Hildegard von Bingen, Catherine of Siena, Therese of the Child Jesus, Teresa of Avila, Edith Stein (Teresa Benedicta of the Cross), Julian of Norwich, Joan of Arc, Flannery O'Connor, Dorothy Day, and this is not a complete list. Research these women. The most accessible to current thought would be the life of Edith Stein, Dorothy Day, or Flannery O'Connor.

[@alwaysrootingfortheantihero123]

there’s a radio theatre podcast called: the saints and there’s a few episodes on edith stien that are great! as a catholic i take great joy in knowing that God has created exceptional and genius female minds that have been called to leave amazing impacts that bring others to Him. I love the female saints and how diverse their callings were.

[@emiliap8790]

The virgin Mary?? Girl she was a teenager forced to give birth. The bible indicates basically nothing about Mary's character or intelligence.

[@miguelatkinson]

@thomasgraha how the heck is the virgin mary a genius may I ask

[@immo1129]

I think Kate Bush is a creative genius; I also think a genius generally is one whose contribution continues to be of value to society. Cool video, thanks for putting in the research ✌️

[@trentterryfriends3934]

Only Kayne thinks Kayne is a genius, pretty sure everyone else thinks he's a nutjob

[@el972]

Oh no there are many rap fans that think he’s a genius

[@thecollector6746]

@@el972 No there isn't. Maybe you should stop running your mouth about a community you know nothing about.

[@TheNwr1]

@@el972There are, but be honest: do any of them seem like people who you should take seriously in that regard?

[@gooseisloose6908]

shut your mouth about shi you know nothing bout bih

[@ArvidRanta]

He's certainly more of a genius than e.g Bob Dylan. I'm tired of that guy being shoved down our throats in the media.

[@karentorresalfaro3371]

What were the first 3 woman genious you thought about? Mine were Marie S. Curie, Sor Juana Ines de la cruz and Frida Khalo, but after them I could only think of Hedi Lamarr and Mary Shelley 😢 we really need more.

[@111z.7]

I thought Joan of Arc, Mary Shelley, and Stevie Nicks

[@yahia9481]

She seriously included singers and painters in the list

[@Docypher]

The female genius I thought of was Taylor Swift, weirdly enough. I’m not a fan of her actual music but it’s clear that she’s a fantastic businesswoman who knows exactly how to attract and entertain a crowd.

[@WinxMagicalHero]

I think you’re giving too much credit. White supremacy helps her a lot on that front. A bit too much

[@Nigerosaurus420]

Gatekeeping intellect has gotta be the most unintelligent thing ever.

[@CleverUsername69420]

I haven’t seen anyone say Cleopatra yet, so I’d like to throw her name into the discussion of female geniuses. Also Bertha Pappenheim, better known as Freud’s “Anna O.” She started schools and shelters and was a writer.

[@veronicarodriguez8662]

I think, especially in the modern era, the genius is tied to class and financial success. To be rich is, under capitalism, to be superior and, thus genius, ignoring the numerous other peoples' labor and creativity that may be involved.. Though, in science, I would say the idea of the lone maverick genius has an explicitly negative impact on the collective research effort. The reality of physics and math is that they are highly social disciplines, every great discovery built on the successes and dead ends of previous and concurrent research. The idea of the genius thus encourages tunnel vision in research, prioritizing the great discovery and minimizing both supporting and conflicting research.

[@ruplayinggame3080]

The woman genius I pictured was James Tiptree Jr - a woman who wrote scifi under a pseudonym in the 70s and who was absolutely a genius that is not remembered enough, just inovative and with such a striking style. She had a million ideas, she was revolutionary... And it's very interesting how being 'outed' as a woman affected her writing. (She was absolutely also a fascinating personality and there's a biography about her that is incredibly interesting on gender, sexuality and also the drama of 70s scifi writers)

[@Kaiheart]

The genius I thought of was Artemisia Gentileschi - her art is amazing!

[@Ohana9999]

ARTEMISIA MY BELOVED❤❤❤ Her take on Judith and Holofernes will always be my favorite

[@Minamibam]

If Marie Curie wouldn’t have died from her work I doubt she would have made the list at all…

[@TaraMooknee]

like this comment to send elle to jail for saying "babyjuice"

[@livthedream5885]

😂

[@BlahBlah-bb6rl]

Babe wake up it’s a new elle literacy video

[@GreatestAuthorinFlorida]

Few persons, male or female, truly deserve the title, genius. That title is given out far too liberally.

[@MsMRkv]

Beyonce? that was a horrible example.

[@Suhaylyalloo]

Idk for bey, but she has more Grammys than anyone in us history. That would be considered a "music genius"

[@I.____.....__...__]

5:34 Right, ALMOST always. Sure Sheldon was a scumbag, but so was Temperance from _Bones_ and she was a woman. The writers of both shows made a point of saying that neither is autistic (possibly to avoid stigmatizing autistic people with the burden of being jerks), but then that means they don't have an excuse, and thus are just butt-holes, and thus stigmatizing smart people as necessarily being prigs by mere virtue of being smart. 🤷 🤦

[@_tripalong]

There's no way Sheldon isn't actually a culmination of autistic stereotypes. The writer said that to avoid controversy but cmon. The audience ain't stupid.

[@wlimasi]

ok as a woman - the Marie Curie part had me GAGGED. I never even realized it.

[@teleprint-me]

My first thoughts were Ada Lovelace and Grace Hopper. Madam Curie is always a last thought for me, lol. Ada is like my hero. Totally an underrated maths genius. Its a shame she died so young, she could have done so much more. TBH, I really don't really like the term genuis at all as it implies some inherent capability when its really just work, time, effort, support, encouragement, etc. Plenty of studies back this up now.

[@desaravladasi2062]

this reminds me that thomas edison literally didn’t invent much just improved others ideas/was better at marketing ideas/stole them outright and had massive teams working on things and yet everyone credits him with so much

[@Avinash_kumar_IITD]

Thomas edison actually was the first person who was able to run bulb for 15 hrs. So he is credited for it. He invented DC current similar to tesla who invented AC. Unlike you who don't even know how to cook. Feminism is just a cancer, taking credit for everything for doing nothing.

[@zarakjthompson]

I really enjoyed this video and agree with its thesis, but it's a point of contention whether Leonardo da Vinci was a straight white man. There's significant consensus that he was what we now call gay (he lived before sexuality was understood as an identity).

[@neilok17847]

Brilliant video and very illuminating. I just resent the inclusion of Elon Musk as anything but an extremely mediocre person who falls upwards.