Is the New BMW M4 Better With a Manual Gearbox? Nurburgring Test Lap

[@Shmee150]

In the UK we can only buy the new BMW M3 and M4 as their Competition variants which means with an 8spd Auto gearbox, but in other markets there's also the Non-Competition with a manual. Where better to find out what it's like than for a quick lap at the Nurburgring!

[@realtimbotube]

Does it start with a card? I drove a 2021 M440i a while ago that had no keys, just a card lol

[@xero256]

So, you're telling me that BMW likely de-tuned the manual so the auto-box would be faster.

[@ssaini5028]

You gonna get the Giulia GTAm?

[@Mike.W.Dasher]

Will the M3 Touring be available with a manual? If so, that would jump to the top of my list of desirable wagons/estates.

[@mattsamuels3607]

100% prefer auto to manual 🚗💨

[@BlargMyShnoople]

your laps are getting extremely entertaining as you get more and more comfortable on the ring. Good stuff Tim!

[@davideubank4215]

I never thought I’d see blarg comment on a shmee video

[@oscarr-b3289]

Goonns ?

[@anonymous-wp4st]

Dude, seriously. When did Tim become such a beast?

[@Mullins06]

Unpopular opinion: the engine noise through the speakers actually makes for better KZbin sound. There, I said it!

[@ayoutubeuser-hj7np]

just felt that 10:07 when passing the Renault，the Renault didn‘t move right which makes that moment a little bit scary

[@BMW7series251]

I'd av shat ma sen!!!!

[@DannyMdlG]

Tight pass! Tim was really feeling the M4.

[@DJJOOLZDE]

Fact: The only time Shmee has driven a car in anger was when he was looking for a charging port for his Taycan :3

[@atobpilot]

Tim's driving is actually quite excellent.

[@trashboat8530]

Yes thank you

[@Nur__]

@@trashboat8530 traaash boooaat, woooooooooo

[@rolletahkola6458]

Tim: ”public road so its not a race” *goes full throttle the whole track*😂

[@JoDON111]

Its kind of like the autobahn but with corners, so nothing wrong with that :D

[@Nur__]

@@JoDON111 facs

[@doughnuts5364]

Except it doesn’t go anywhere

[@JoDON111]

@@doughnuts5364 However, you do have fun while driving

[@rolletahkola6458]

@@JoDON111 yep that’s why i respect tim, because he isn’t scared to drive full throttle even if it’s not his car😁

[@nicknguyen3746]

2:13 “but this thing between your legs, it’s VERY VERY VERY odd” - Shmee 2021 Someone needs to make a t-shirt with this

[@stephenhankey9684]

Yep, it’s safe to say you can certainly drive the ring very well and very fast now! Looking forward to more! 👍

[@pablovr6269]

That sky was incredible! Beautyfull blue horizon and magestic white clouds. Perfect backdrop.

[@MrSlash00r]

I have to say, the turn by turn commentary while driving the manual was impressive, Tim.

[@lrfcarreviews2570]

The M4 is a fun car. I’m more of a fan of the M5 and the M3.

[@DerStaubsaugerHD]

@@yungboicontigo9278 boring 😂😂😂

[@JZX_Nate]

@@yungboicontigo9278 bmw childish

[@stevem2323]

@@yungboicontigo9278 Nobody cares.

[@stevem2323]

@@yungboicontigo9278 I do enjoy them, i had 3 of them, e46, e90 and now f30. All brilliant to drive and didn't had anything significant to repair, also done 200 k + km on all of them.

[@eXoguti094]

@@yungboicontigo9278 Nice job cherry-picking the most unreliable of the bunch LOL

[@tharushsomashekar]

Automat is faster. Manual is fun. End of debate

[@th3orist]

i disagree - automatic is also "fun" on the track, just a different kind of fun. i'd say if you buy a sportscar mainly for the road then go manual, if you buy it mainly for trackuse get the auto (if its double clutch).

[@magnustan841]

To no honest, manuals are slightly overrated nowadays. Yes, they are getting rarer in performance cars, people say they’re more fun, but you’re driving on the highway / motorway 90% of the time in your car, where a manual would be troublesome. I think the manual hype is more of people wanting to fit in with other petrolheads and sticking to the “petrolheads rules”.

[@deemocean]

​@@th3orist dude, it's just a matter of different people has a different idea of what fun is anyway

[@Nur__]

@@th3orist i think when you're looking to have fun you want the max engagement which the manual provides, except when you're after laptimes then i guess auto atw

[@gunterlauch2264]

@@Nur__ I'm not saying you are wrong, but with these cars I think the manual just doesn't fit anymore. noise insulation and weight are both so much on this car, it feels stale with the manual IMO. I personally think the added power and being able to shift mid corner would be more exciting and also better for doing some skids.

[@LewisChapman101]

The nurburgring content is my favorite 🔥

[@abdullahilyas4354]

Anyone else love the new in car front facing camera angle?

[@Chris-hw4mq]

Problem is he needs 1 less camera view. Watch smoking tire he has the perfect angles.

[@Nur__]

@@Chris-hw4mq true, we don't need to see his face so he should axe that

[@williamrogercummings9607]

Very candid evaluation of the manuel gear change. I enjoy manuel shifting, but more than likely not on the track any longer. Thanks, Tim.

[@jacknichol4270]

Shmee is really good at driving/doing Nurburgring commentary at the same time now after all those previous laps

[@TheVranac87]

Can't wait to buy the Touring version in 3years

[@DarklordMan]

Very nice driving. You can see the training

[@z0eshi]

Can we just appreciate the noise that car makes, a lot of cars sound good from on the inside while you drive but most you need to stand behind to really love, this thing sounds awesome from the drivers position

[@rinirax]

Dunno if its your ears or mine but to me that thing sounds like a muffled didgeridoo

[@z0eshi]

@@rinirax I personally liked the sound, there are worse sounding cars

[@z0eshi]

@@TVCHLORD Oh yea forgot a lot of cars have that now :(

[@masonwabetshobongavsc.2340]

your track driving id improving Tim. great drive

[@AUgrown]

That was the most intense driving I’ve watched in a long time and the angles were what made it work so well. Well done driving and keeping out of the other cars. I puckered my ass a few times. Best one of your vids yet for me and I’ve watched many. Sounds just like my 2020 M4 from inside so I can’t imagine putting my car on the Ring.

[@theshinyplayer2373]

I've watched your videos every now and then for a very long time. But I think all these laps take the channel to another level. It's also fun to see how your driving is improving. I guess the Nordschleife is the perfect track for youtube. The content' wouldn't be the same with a shorter track! Great work Tim! 👍

[@pavan151]

Fantastic driving. Also, I am shocked you are talking so much while driving. I couldn't handle it while at a track like that but I guess that shows your experience out there. Bravo!

[@marlborom2c829]

Very helpful. The M3 M4 are best in class.

[@StewChicken42]

*BRO!* 1. LOOK AT YOUR DRIVING! Massively improved! 2. Driving that looks FUN AF! I've never wanted to try to learn how to drive there as much. That's a far far dream though. 😅

[@semperumbra10]

It's good to see that Shmee is actually a great driver unlike alot of KZbin personalities. Someone who can push the car and do what it was made for instead of cruising around just talking about it.

[@MarioDuch]

There is truly nothing better then ending a long day with a great shmee video, Thank you a lot Tim for making every night a little bit better for all of us 🙏❤️

[@casual9982]

It's impressive how fast Shmee has gotten around the ring, faster than many many others out there!

[@paulwalker9283]

I don’t get how he can talk and still drive fast I wouldn’t be able to say a word

[@automan2145]

Great drive,enjoyed watching this,keep up the good work

[@criktun3346]

Bloody hell Schmee, some proper driving here, awesome to watch.

[@Raven_A5]

Not gonna lie, I got worried around 10:05. Moron in the black car definitely wasn’t paying attention.

[@anidudee]

ikrrr i was jus bout to comment bout that ..shmee thought the guy was gonna move and actually braced for a second but that megane moved last sec but yeah!

[@michae8jackson378]

Everyone waxes poetic about manual gear boxes and I learned on them and enjoy them as well! But wait til you get older w replaced knees, etc! You’ll be VERY thankful for auto! 😎😎😎

[@BMW7series251]

Agree 100%. Well said MJ.

[@michae8jackson378]

@@BMW7series251 thank you👍

[@travis3810]

Replace your knees so you have fresh ones for the clutch!

[@michae8jackson378]

@@travis3810 hahaha

[@jacobqyps1720]

Thank you for the hard work to entertain us with awesome daily video Tim..

[@ianjenkins4641]

Great video. I got out last year but doesn’t look like I will be able this year. Nice to watch someone else enjoying it so that’s the next best thing I guess.

[@jamesbondeson669]

I'm considering ordering a G82 M4 with a manual. I have had manuals since 1969 when I bought new Mercury Cougar to drive across the US from Sacramento, California. I've never owned an automatic since, and currently have a 2015 F82 M4 with a manual. I guess I'm old school, but then I'm 75 so I and retired, so it figures I would be.

[@christophermay1229]

Tim 'Full Send' Shmee!

[@dipsetkid09]

Best shmee video I've watched in a long time. Love the commentary!!!

[@stebansb]

I do not like any BMW after the e46, but seeing a manual transmission on an m4 just made me watch this video from start to finish. props BMW for keeping the manuals alive.

[@zebra3519]

Yes, yes. The track. Top work.

[@SicSemperBeats]

That grey car at the end (couldnt see at all what that was) was showing out for the camera. Dude was fast asf

[@dugie3341]

So excited for the near future. Gt black shmuseum. Love the videos keep up the great work

[@Shmee150]

Two really exciting things to come to the channel soon

[@sibtainraza8673]

This Car is the Ultimate M car the kidney grill for me has given the car even more personality ... Would have bought it straight away had I had the cash

[@duncanorr5926]

Fair point actually

[@mncedisiluhlanga2024]

Raza... Just buy it we know u have the cash ....

[@sibtainraza8673]

@@mncedisiluhlanga2024 hahaha ... Nice joke but I am just a student looking for a job so it's a far dream for me now atleast

[@pis2lero829]

Manual transmission cars are fun, this will test your driver skills on how will you be able to use certain techniques like heel and toeing and how will you mix and match the clutch, brake and throttle pedals.

[@Berini74]

Wow, really impressed by your driving skills Mr Shmee

[@Treesuss]

That closing speed was impressive. That thing turns into a monster.

[@m.x.refrigxolani8365]

These G80 M3/4s don't really get recognition they deserve. Their performances are astonishing for performance sedans!!!!

[@jimlaurita1487]

Tim: Manuals give you the connection to your car that you don't get with autos...you don't have that purity, old school engaging feel Also Tim: We've got the gear shift setting which is auto-rev matching, we've got that on Oh and Tim can actually drive!! Nice

[@mrmuncheez374]

That was awesome Shmee! Man, us Americans are missing out! I would love to have something like the Nurbergring in my area 😆 That looks like so much fun! Great video 👍🔥

[@qbertutube]

Looking very fast Shmee. Well done. Peace

[@justinmclees4525]

Impressive driving, You have enough going on with driving the car on track let alone giving an ongoing commentary of thoughts and experience.

[@futte2303]

It’s so good to see you, at your happe place

[@Shmee150]

It sure is! I love doing laps here

[@MA-dq4vb]

This is probably the most reckless I’ve ever seen Tim drive... and I’m all here for it!😂

[@DrehzahlDieter]

there were already a few non-competition m3s and m4s which were dynoed and they tend to output way more than the 480hp. Usually, even the non-competition ones do above 500hp

[@brettsneyers7019]

The manual in this g8X series is the best. im getting me second now went from g80 manual to g82 manual. Just put a short shift kit on it and its shifts as good as a gt3. love this platform!! This atmosferic linear engine is perfect for the manual!

[@ShotZ_byAli]

This video deserves a million views!!

[@simondarrie666]

Your the most polite racer ever , love the channel bro

[@tlange9]

Your a mad man Tim for driving the ring talking the whole time and giving a review on the car at the same time 😂🤣😂

[@47.rishikeshshirsath30]

Old gen M4 ,the f82 was the best, looks and performance both were crazy

[@brianbailey7128]

Great info from you - particularly on the seats with MT . Thanks.

[@_Archambaud]

Manual for me .your lines round the ring are great by the way

[@lennartroh4109]

Just nice to see this man having big fun in a nice car

[@PyroMotteFullHD]

Beautiful M4

[@focusgreg4136]

Excellent review and dsg is just the best for anyone to enjoy 😎

[@ahyaan2552]

Its called the zf, the DSG is in VAG group cars

[@comeberza]

I just saw the new 4 series, and in the flesh, it works better than in video where the car looks massive, but the hips just don't work for me. The previous 4 series on the road, with the flared fenders, has such a presence, with a very planted stance. The m steering wheel looks so so thick. Tims abilities are now more that acceptable, watching hip lap the ring is really cool

[@bwpospolyta]

Great video. Wish you did not edit parts out! I actually appreciate the commentary you make on the corners and being off line etc! Great video

[@KandiMan]

That was legitimately impressive driving, especially through traffic - well done! Hope to see you at Quail again this year. 👍🏾🏎

[@ajw828]

This was so entertaining! Great driving Tim!!!

[@BobbyStef]

At least you're going much faster than 200 kph now 😅

[@AYO_KO]

Nah you drove like a mad man low key🤯 I like it💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

[@jamesrsk]

One thing I will say is Tim is a very good driver!

[@henriparent4808]

4K video please 🙏, amazing video !

[@ScottieDeux]

There’s nothing like driving a legit gated manual....I learned to drive manual in an early ‘70’s Ford pickup with “3 on the tree”....I’ve driven everything from that to a 13-speed Peterbilt cab and about everything in between....I still have my ‘04 Saturn Vue SUV with a 5-speed just because it’s a stick....anyways great content as always and CHEERS from across the pond!!

[@nimaljaya5431]

Shmee is next level now. Doing the nurburgring while commentating on every cars paint colour

[@holeefok3158]

the stick shift is the same E36 M3 stick design. Nice.

[@aubreycolemanracing]

I drove this car around Phillip Island race track, but auto version of course. Very impressive car, even gives you a drift rating!

[@jimmpi]

Cant wait to see You Do laps with the gt black and lambo sto

[@maxxedredlineproductions]

That thumbnail is awesome!

[@kieranraine342]

I actually seen a g82 4 series last night was a m440i and I have to say they did well with seperating the grill with the number plate plinth :)

[@ThePontiacgto65]

Man, I like (love) your channel.. More on the nurburgring

[@luislopes2240]

Shmee driving really good

[@colinpaton3770]

Hi Tim, that was a fun ride! If anyone doubted Shmee can properly drive performance cars, just check out this video. I didn't expect it to be quite so quick, I wonder if it is a little lighter then the M3 comp? The manual is the biz especially with the auto-blip. That small erection in the seats is flawed though ;)) Cheers!

[@musicmanbc9613]

Having some fun back in Germany eh, Tim? :)

[@Shmee150]

For sure

[@tomazikov]

My ideal specification if I had the money . The only diference between this and the one I would have is mine would be blue and have comfort seat. Like I said if I had the money. One can dream 😉

[@scottiecopasetic8315]

Mine would be something dark (maybe satin black or gray). Still struggling with that front facia & why I still have my M2C (currently shopping for a CS). It'll be interesting to see what the 2023 M2 looks like. Cuz I love how the current M2 looks.

[@bmw_phc]

Anything is more fun with a manual 🙌

[@OutsideDuhBox]

Jesus Shmee.... I never knew you had balls of steel 😳 watching you drive like a mad man! 😈👍

[@MostCedric]

My muscle memory was developed by low-biting point manual cars. During a manual M2C test drive, I find it difficult to drive, the biting point is too high, need more time one day to get used to.

[@radostinangelov9193]

Amazing car!

[@richardtingle466]

Fantastic drive 👍👍👍

[@awn7775]

Tim. You’re a really good driver 🤝

[@BrendanEvan]

A manual M3 remains a future dream Dad car of mine

[@rjnation5042]

That's cool, hope you get a go at the Polestar that Misha has Tim, Rj in Oz

[@Y-0-S-M-M]

amazing driving Tim!!!

[@forza_clips3652]

Very cool car!!

[@diamondsky6605]

I love watching you driving the green hell 💚

[@Gozar111]

Great sounding car. Would love to see the M3 Comp on here.

[@CozmicOrgazm]

That looked like some fine driving 👌🏽

[@paulkrapp]

Cool to see Misha and the guys in the background. 👍 A couple of those passes looked a little iffy, not sure they saw you coming. 😬 I agree, autos are faster on the track, manuals are fun and engaging! 😀

[@XZ4bra]

Shmee deserves more subs