Is the new Citizen Promaster the best new diver under $300?

[@Bhethar]

Seiko:”Let’s nerf our divers and make them expensive” Citizen:”Let’s make our divers cheaper and better”

[@Horologique]

Totally, Citizen is blowing Seiko out of the water (pun intended 😉)

[@nikoniannikonian9531]

But is this better than NY0040 ? I think not. 1. lug to lug, 2. crown at 8, 3. original, not rolexish hour hand

[@irabourstein]

I've had the blue version for a couple of months and I'm enjoying it. I paid $245USD without a tank and feel that it's a good watch for the money.

[@Horologique]

Yes it is! Keep in enjoying it!

[@dannyfree1120]

This is a really good review. The citizen now pips seiko on the looks front.

[@Horologique]

Thank you so much 👍

[@dazherbert2782]

Great looking watch. Got mine on the tropic strap. I like a snug fit.

[@frankmanitta4870]

The best and most concise review on the Citizen diver that I have seen yet .Young man you have a good eye for design appreciation keep up the good work .

[@Horologique]

Thank you so much for your comment and support 👍👍

[@michaelj8793]

So glad you got this one in and can hardly wait for your full honest review as always my friend God Bless You and Yours Big Daddy👍

[@Horologique]

Thank you very much my friend, have a happy start of the week 👍

[@timetowatch_francois]

Thanks for reviewing this one. I LOVE the dial design and colours and congratulations on "hitting the jackpot" with that box/tank 🙂👍🏼

[@Horologique]

Thank you 😁. Yes very happy indeed

[@nielwilliams4687]

Citizen quality is almost always better than Seiko.

[@Horologique]

Yes, at least in QC 😁

[@Cleatus546]

At the price a mineral crystal is a deal breaker. Too bad because it looks like a great watch otherwise.

[@S-Ltd1000]

Lol, I've had quite a few Citizen promasters over the years and the only one that had the dive tank packaging was my Orca I got a week ago. I've also had this clasp on a couple of citizens including the Orca. It's well designed and a big step up to what comes on a similarly priced Seiko.

[@Horologique]

Yes, totally agree about the clasp

[@ElJibaro718]

Inr never gotten the dive tank. Amazon lies 😂

[@1968jpy]

Thanks for your detailed video on this watch . Just this past Friday my NY0129-58L arrived. I’m loving this watch the blue textured dial is amazing 🤩 in sunlight. The one thing I noticed about the bezel on this watch that’s very unique is above the teeth of the bezel is a polished surface that really is a beautiful look to a rugged Japanese bezel . As far as being better than or replacing the beloved SKX hmmmm that’s interesting question. I own the SKX009K but also own it’s Citizens rival the NY086 Fugu pro master diver as well. I almost think that’s a more comparable watch to the SKX than this new Citizen’s watch we both now own . This new Citizen’s seems more similar to my original Orient Triton with power Reserve because of its thickness and lug to lug length. I think our new Citizens watch is also has a Seiko 62MAS vibe or look to it . I do agree that it would of been awesome to have a sapphire crystal but I really do like the design of the crystal that does have a vintaged domed box crystal look . I really look forward to your follow up review and thoughts on this fantastic new Citizen’s diver 👍🏻💯

[@UffeErupLarsen]

You make great and detailed reviews, so I subscribed a long time ago. 😊 Thanks for this review of this pretty cool Citizen. 🙌

[@Horologique]

Thank you so much for your long time support!

[@RabbitWatchShop]

As a small wrist person, which is a disability, the dimensions are a shame to me.

[@roberthansen8632]

Hi, do you rate or ever review spinnaker watches ? i did not find any in your previous videos. thanks for the content.

[@Horologique]

They are good 👍. Original designs, very well finished cases, solid specs and affordable prices, what's not to like 😁

[@roberthansen8632]

thank you kindly for the input, appreciated. @@Horologique

[@WatchFocus8800]

Citizen make one in a 39mm size, add sapphire glass, and remove the day date, and you've got a gem

[@ElJibaro718]

Sapphire crystal is a necessity only to watch snobs.

[@drwindsurf]

Great review...This looks like a good watch for the price 👍

[@Horologique]

Thank you!

[@durandsimon5221]

A bit thick for me and bezel action is bot great. I guess the Kamasu may be a better option to me.

[@pzwolski]

I have the same feelings.

[@sivanstar]

I think that i would take a 300$ watch rather than a 800$ watch to dive for real. And on that case the mineral crystal is a better choice. I dont think true skx fans would like this instead, most of them dont like Citizen, like you cant love both😂 I think its a great watch, i dont mind the rotor noise and i think the movement is better than the 7s26. Bracelet ofc and a toolish clasp. Although seikos are totally pressed and at entry level and have rubbish extension, they are comfy. Bottom line this is a superior clasp. Overall great watch at this price, would appreciate a totally flat crystal with more ar.. Enjoy wearing it.. 😊

[@markymarknj]

So Citizen sends DIFFERENT color tanks with their different model divers? WOW! Who knew? I have to of their Eco Drive Promaster divers (one black, one blue), and they both came in light grey tanks.

[@paulc9588]

Seems like a good buy, looking forward to the full review. Dive watches aren't really my thing but aesthetically I think the SKX is marginally the better of the two. Shame it's not a bit smaller for those with a slim wrist.

[@aryansambyal1511]

I need a bracelet for my non bracelet variant can you recommend

[@erikdupont554]

Looks like it's the new SKX007 in terms of diver watch for the price

[@Horologique]

Yep, totally!

[@Getouttahere78]

Talking everything in consideration, I think this beats Seiko hands down ‼️

[@Horologique]

Yes it does, at the same price point!

[@davemck1887]

62 MAS vibes.

[@1968jpy]

Totally 💯 agree I got the NY0129-58L blue bezel, blue dial this past Friday and definitely think it has a 62MAS look and vibe to it .

[@dunderhay9169]

The Japanese makers don't appear to trust sapphire for real divers, better a scratched mineral on a working watch than a shattered sapphire crystal. Nice watch 👍

[@stefpix]

All dive watches above $500 have sapphire

[@certainly2509]

Sapphire crystal is generally superior to mineral. All the best modern dive watches don't have mineral crystals for a reason.

[@stefpix]

The citizen Fugu, the 1000m professional diver, the Fujitsubo and all the other dive watches above entry level have sapphire, not mineral..

[@enmovimiento3766]

Se ve bueno, pero no sé si lo suficiente para ser el mejor por debajo de los $300….. la cosa es que para mi Citizen Serie 8 hace la diferencia, el resto casi todos son lo mismo. Un abrazo Oliver.

[@AlexanderB.]

If we're honest, the watch is a little big! 😉 Yes, this does replace the SKX as an underspecced watch with mineral crystal and a subpar movement! 😂

[@Horologique]

😂

[@bookofmillions]

Why not 38mm 😢 ❤ We are not all THE HULK!

[@ElJibaro718]

Because 38mm is for women.

[@PINKFL0YD-s2h]

I looked at this but it's just too thick. I prefer the SanMartin water ghost v3 with a PT5000 which I bought..

[@Horologique]

That's a fenomenal watch as well

[@stevenrobertson6656]

Come on Citizen give us sapphire!

[@tomalophicon]

There is a titanium version with sapphire

[@ElJibaro718]

Nah. Mineral is good enough. Only watch snobs want sapphire.

[@stevenrobertson6656]

Lol

[@aubsta1]

I got the “invitation” to buy but passed.

[@nedflanders3769]

I get SPB143 vibes

[@Horologique]

Yes, totally!

[@BarnOwl61]

I'm truly impressed. I just don't understand the Mercedes style hour hand. It looks out of place. 😮

[@Horologique]

That's the heritage of this watch, from the original from the 70s

[@amoledzeppelin]

Hmm, no, I think Orient Kamasu (RA-AA000x) is still the best (if we're talking mechs only). In comparison with this particular model, I mean RA-AA0001B. Because better movement, because sapphire, because slimmer profile... All at around the same price. And the bracelet is too heavy for me on both, so I'd immediately swap it to a steel mesh (like I did on the Kamasu) or a NATO strap.

[@williamthomas6106]

Except the Kamasu is not diver certified. For a desk diver or "sports watch" a Kamasu is fine. But for actual diving, I will take a watch that has been certified and tested to 125% rated depth for two hours.

[@ElJibaro718]

100 l% wrong.

[@ElJibaro718]

​@@williamthomas6106Exactly.

[@dinosaucers6704]

Citizen is what old Seiko used to be

[@Horologique]

Very well said 👍

[@Horology_Horsepower]

I would take a mineral crystal with a nice bracelet over a sapphire with a crap bracelet

[@jschoenzy9416]

Not the dimensions I'm looking for. Looks good otherwise. I like the yellow one

[@williamthomas6106]

You criticize the Citizen for not having a sapphire crystal, but neither did the SKX. So I'm not sure why you would hold Citizen to a standard that you don't hold Seiko to.

[@Horologique]

I criticized the SKX a lot for not having a Sapphire, but that was a watch from the mid 90s. I criticized Seiko much more for not having Sapphire on their 5KX line!

[@williamthomas6106]

@@Horologique Yes, it does seem kind of silly that "legitimate" watch companies appear unable to offer sapphire crystal on pieces costing hundreds of dollars, but somehow "shady" homage brands like Pagani Design, can include things like a ceramic bezel insert and sapphire crystal in a watch costing less than a Benjamin. Makes you wonder who the real crooks are. That being said, for a "Dive Watch" that I plan to wear at depth, I'll give up a sapphire crystal for ISO dive certification every time.

[@Mike1614YT]

The Seiko looks better to me

[@AntonioNuñez-g1q]

Meconoeoynopronto❤❤😊

[@Sicarius888]

Great design, but mineral and miyota 8 kills it. Looks like Kamasu is still champion and for lower price.

[@Chris-rt8rq]

No sapphire. Pass unless they lower the price

[@MikeSmith-er1qs]

The SKX is soooooo overrated!!!

[@joseesteves1309]

the mineral crystal is a big let down for me.........a hard pass on this one

[@Horologique]

Yes, too bad about the crystal...

[@ElJibaro718]

Only watch snobs want sapphire crystal.

[@ElJibaro718]

At under 300 USD sapphire crystal isn't needed. Stop the snobbery.

[@ragnarone5409]

to chunky

[@Cleatus546]

The mineral crystal is a breaker.