Is the new IWC Ingenieur 40 OVERPRICED? First look & impressions.

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Күн бұрын

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@1000lightyrs
@1000lightyrs 8 ай бұрын
Normally I'd go with the classic black dial, but WOW, your videography of the aqua version have sold me on that one, it looks super cool! Now I just have to wait about a decade for one to come up pre-owned at a decent price, and I'm all over it. I'm a patient man.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 8 ай бұрын
Thank you. I actually also was impressed by the aqua dial colour.
@joshuakaplan5726
@joshuakaplan5726 10 ай бұрын
I agree with the massess that it's gorgeous but over-priced. IWC overall has drastically increased their prices over the past couple years. Pilots chronograph 41 was 6500 USD in Jan 2022 and now is 7600 USD. The ingenieur should be between 6k to 7k USD. Having this cost more than a Datejust, hell more than a GMT Master 2, is absurd.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 10 ай бұрын
Yes I think they could priced it more than the Mark XX but not as much. Many other watch brands increased their prices over the last few years. JLC is a good example of the crazy increase.
@davidclive701
@davidclive701 10 ай бұрын
This is destined to become a classic . It’s cheap compared to Nautilus and Royal Oak
@patsmith3894
@patsmith3894 9 ай бұрын
I don't think this watch is destined to be a classic. The watch market is dead in January 2024. People will buy Royal Oak, Overseas, and Rolex junk at retail soon. This IWC will be forgotten.
@Sasquatchi
@Sasquatchi 8 ай бұрын
You've hit on a big point.... the market being dead doesn't mean no one will buy nice things.... it means, the REAL nice things IE royal oak's of the world will soon be attainable and thus the "I couldn't get a royal oak" tier of Laureatos, Alpine Eagles, Polos and Ingeniurs, will be less attractive. This IWC should be a $7500 watch competing with the Oyster Perpetual.... not a $12000 watch competing with the GMT Master 2.@@patsmith3894
@johnw6613
@johnw6613 22 күн бұрын
@@davidclive701its not destined to become a classic thats the sales pitch iwc is probably running with in their head to justify the insane price
@derosa1989
@derosa1989 10 ай бұрын
Great review. I struggle to understand why IWC didn't make a more premium movement with a display back if they were going to price this model where it is. It should be positioned where it is, but the movement just doesn't command this level of price, so it seems like a cash grab to price it at over $15,000 Canadian.
@koolpep
@koolpep 10 ай бұрын
Yeah. Make it worth it. They have the movements available. Either that or put it at sub $10k entry price for the base model. Nobody would have had an issue with that.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 10 ай бұрын
@derosa1989​@@koolpep I do agree that IWC should've offered more at that price point.
@benjaminmintz4001
@benjaminmintz4001 10 ай бұрын
This is the right point imo. You can't compare this movement with Geneva seal movements, not in same league. Also the faraday cage and closed case back is just stupid. We have amagnetic escapements now, watch could have been thinner and just as robust without
@MeestroDavid
@MeestroDavid 9 ай бұрын
I had the Mark XX with this same movement and it was straight garbage and bad enough to make me sell the watch. Dropping it in a 5-figure watch is an insult to IWC’s customers.
@koolpep
@koolpep 9 ай бұрын
@@MeestroDavidouch. I am planning on adding the Mark XX - so am curious, what was so wrong with the movement in yours? If you don’t mind me asking.
@osobad1127
@osobad1127 10 ай бұрын
ELEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS! I’ll wait until they hit the secondary market
@koolpep
@koolpep 10 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Love the watch and I don’t mind spending a lot of money on watches but here the value for money is not there, 2-3k less and I am intrigued.
@FabioTWK
@FabioTWK 10 ай бұрын
@@koolpepthey can’t really price it the same as an automatic Portugieser, can they? You have to argue the price point of the whole IWC brand then
@koolpep
@koolpep 10 ай бұрын
@@FabioTWK Why not? They have done that historically - the previous version Ingenieur was between 5 and 7k Euro as a 3 hander max. Until they were discontinued in 2017.
@davidclive701
@davidclive701 10 ай бұрын
Premium in the secondary market already. This Genta special is going to $20k soon and will still be a steal compared to the Nautilus and Royal Oak. Buy now - prices are going higher……….
@koolpep
@koolpep 10 ай бұрын
@@davidclive701 because it’s new and only very few in the market. Also the people listing them are trying to flip and make a buck. I doubt it will go further up but rather come down relatively quickly after March/April with new announcements.
@blackbob1977
@blackbob1977 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for great review! I was trying one with a black dial in the Dubai boutique and it’s very good sized, proportioned and very beautiful watch! It can be pick in the future, but.. Price is high, compare to previous Ingenieur it’s more then double. Can not justify this policy.
@flaviusjurj6960
@flaviusjurj6960 10 ай бұрын
These watches are not for poor people, i.e. watch enthusiasts. Those who can afford luxuries don't look at money or resale value. It's a beautiful watch and a welcome breath of fresh air in a market already tired and bored by Rolex, Omega, Tudor, etc.
@atl3630
@atl3630 10 ай бұрын
IWC isn’t a luxury name brand. The people you describe above have no idea what IWC is or who Gerald Genta was. Your argument is flawed
@flaviusjurj6960
@flaviusjurj6960 10 ай бұрын
@@atl3630 That you think.
@gmshadowtraders
@gmshadowtraders 10 ай бұрын
Exactly! Well put sir! Unfortunately we share our hobby with scumbags and pretenders.
@MeestroDavid
@MeestroDavid 9 ай бұрын
How is a reissue of another watch from the 70s cashing in on the recent trend around vintage-inspired integrated-bracelet watches a breath of fresh air? It seems like the opposite-IWC being late to the trend and occupying an empty middle ground between the exclusive pieces from Patek and AP and the affordable Christopher Ward and Tissot options. Being neither exclusive nor affordable, who’s this for?
@flaviusjurj6960
@flaviusjurj6960 9 ай бұрын
@@MeestroDavid It is for those who have money and are tired of the same story with boring watches like Rolex, Omega, Tudor etc. Regarding the price, everything is relative.
@impexRQ
@impexRQ 2 ай бұрын
To me… it’s absolutely worth it … the new IWC Ingenieur Finishing is top notch . The bracelet is the most comfortable you will ever find and all the details amazed me. This type of IWC offering is not for a Omega, Rolex buyer but someone looking for a high end finishing with an iconic style
@asiafas
@asiafas 10 ай бұрын
It’s stunning and I can’t wait for mine to arrive, I wish everyone would stop whining about the price
@markhammerschmidt5315
@markhammerschmidt5315 10 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. I haven’t taken mine off since getting it on Xmas Eve. A collector for over 20 years and I absolutely think it’s worth the price.
@gmshadowtraders
@gmshadowtraders 10 ай бұрын
People just can't stop dreaming and wishing. They hate being poor 😅
@asiafas
@asiafas 10 ай бұрын
Haha that is true
@asiafas
@asiafas 10 ай бұрын
Christmas Eve what a treat! Congrats my friend I have been told April this year and have been waiting since July, I bet it looks fantastic and that aqua dial Wow! They absolutely nailed this watch in every way
@moiyaspray3599
@moiyaspray3599 9 ай бұрын
I got mine and it's such a beautiful piece happy to have it in my collection.
@andry6760
@andry6760 6 ай бұрын
By far the most helpful review of the new Ingy. Subscribed to the channel, thanks!
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. Glad that video was helpful.
@KC-bv9kf
@KC-bv9kf 10 ай бұрын
They misread the market. 3 y ago, maybe, but not when Rolex AD’s are calling and wait time much shorter (got a Rootbeer in less than 12 months). At 12-14, there are way too many options, especially if including secondary markets. I feel my Octo Finissimo will much less likely to be dated (probably because it probably will never be mainstream, lol) in 5 years. I am negotiating a great deal on a Moser for less than 12, also not a derivative design. There are Mk XX’s on bracelets to be had for less than 5500, and much more interesting Zenith models for less than 9. And BnM are great deals, too. I’m very curious because they couldn’t have guessed that badly, could they?
@koolpep
@koolpep 10 ай бұрын
Yeah you nailed it. If they gave us one dial variation below $10k - they would have won everyone over.
@koolpep
@koolpep 10 ай бұрын
Enjoy that Moser should you get it. I have the Heritage dual time and love it to bits.
@benbiber4135
@benbiber4135 2 ай бұрын
Solid review , lovely watch and definitely priced well in my humble opinion as it’s a very delicate process not to overprice, but certainly not to underprice it either … time will tell indeed. Here in Cape Town we don’t get a such a choice of Gerald Genta’s integrated bracelet watches and I find this version rather attractive despite of the lack of sharp edges on its case ,which I normally like on integrated watches . You’ve mentioned that you’ve had an Oysterquartz before and I wonder why didn’t you keep it as I find them extremely beautiful (in that restrained Rolex way) and becoming extremely rare in a good unpolished sharp condition. I have one and I must say it gets rather disproportionate amount of wrist time considering. I hope your channel grows exponentially as your content is sound . Mazal tov
@Eric_Nielsen
@Eric_Nielsen 9 ай бұрын
'Well known but not too well known brand' is important to me as well. I mostly wear Omega, Panerai, and IWC (chrono) to work. This watch would be a good swap for my blue Datejust 41 that I don't wear to work BUT for me the fixed butterfly clasp removes it from consideration, regardless of price.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 9 ай бұрын
No micro adjustment is the case with most integrated watches.
@brysoga
@brysoga Ай бұрын
Is it green or blue?
@OscarFacuseh
@OscarFacuseh 7 ай бұрын
Great review and thoughts about the watch, Thank you for sharing. I still think this Engenieur looks a lot better than the original, so much that i got the Ti version 😊 About the price, for a Genta design I think it’s manageable compared to the other two brands.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 7 ай бұрын
Congrats on the Ti versions - the watch is amazing.
@KnifeWatch
@KnifeWatch 10 ай бұрын
Great video review. I’m drooling over this one. I’d buy it
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. I would buy it too. But probably not at the current retail.
@davidclive701
@davidclive701 10 ай бұрын
@@OneManReviewsLooks like you’ll never own it as the price is unlikely to ever trade below retail. This is an absolute classic and wears well too. Dial and crown guards are huge improvement
@coffeeboyclips1973
@coffeeboyclips1973 10 ай бұрын
Love this watch, if i had the money i would buy it
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 10 ай бұрын
I think I would wait for the secondary or grey market price.
@daniell2217
@daniell2217 10 ай бұрын
This is the most comprehensive, insightful, and honest review I’ve seen on this watch. Thanks for making it. I guess if you love this one, you love it. But, I can’t see me ever getting it. If I develop a Genta itch, I’ll go get a RO, not a B/B+ substitute. If I want another 3 hand SS sports watch, I’ll go get a submariner. And, if I want it from a lesser known, I’ll get a JLC Polaris.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed the video. I will wait for the secondary market prices to see. The retails price is way too much and there is some good competition within that range.
@aspOLmeR
@aspOLmeR 10 ай бұрын
JLC polaris is a clowntown, considering that price and what they offer
@WatchesCanBeFun
@WatchesCanBeFun 10 ай бұрын
New thumbnail looks great, love your railmaster videos
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 10 ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏🏻
@uzer03
@uzer03 10 ай бұрын
The movement is not COSC certified, IWC has never made any statements about the accuracy of its watches. The only exception was the “Officially Certified Chronometer” Ingenieur (1993-2001), whose rates complied with the COSC specifications.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 10 ай бұрын
Yes, you're right. I think I meant to say that IWC movements usually run pretty accurately like COSC-certified.
@thodorissaritziotis3306
@thodorissaritziotis3306 10 ай бұрын
That dial is beautiful! 😍
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 10 ай бұрын
I think so too!
@Nom_AnorVSJedi
@Nom_AnorVSJedi 10 ай бұрын
Yours is one of the few vids on this watch. Why the lack of interest I wonder?
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 10 ай бұрын
I think it’s because it’s hard to get hands on the model since it relatively new and only available on the preorder from boutiques.
@billcore6295
@billcore6295 5 ай бұрын
Great video, but agree that it is overpriced via your title. 120 hrs of PR is good. I simply don’t value IWC aa they see themselves. I prefer both the Piaget Polo and Chopard AE over this watch. I own the Chopard AE and purchased it used which was approximately 65% of its MSRP, not the current MSRP. Piaget Polo is amazing and prefer this as a nautilus alternative but it also is overpriced.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 5 ай бұрын
I had a Chopard AE for review and it's an incredible watch.
@fhaquuu
@fhaquuu 10 ай бұрын
Does this have an ETA movement?
@TobiasHenreich
@TobiasHenreich 9 ай бұрын
No
@davidclive701
@davidclive701 10 ай бұрын
At $11,000 this Genta watch is a steal!! already at a premium in the secondary market, this watch is worth $20K and will still be cheap compared to the Nautilus and Royal Oak
@rr5738
@rr5738 10 ай бұрын
Care to share what sources of data you are basing your opinions on? Most secondary market dealers are offering just about MSRP for new pieces and even lower for pre-owned pieces..
@ygw6979
@ygw6979 2 ай бұрын
agedlikemilk
@jchong416
@jchong416 5 ай бұрын
This is a great 7k usd watch.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 5 ай бұрын
Agree 👍
@waterfordrs22
@waterfordrs22 9 ай бұрын
I’m not a big fan of integrated bracelets. They can look good, however I do t like being locked into a proprietary system and lack of casually found strap. I’ve got a couple watches with 19mm lug width, something that’s often made out to be a big deal, it’s not an issue these days, I’d find this kind of setup far more restrictive. I’m more of a dress watch these days, this strikes me as one of the nicer integrated sports watches today. No way would I consider it at retail. I do love the case, I’d wear it in the bracelet and be done. I’d consider a preowned Defy Skyline at the right price. I’m more of a Zenith fan but prefer this aesthetically. The Tonda comes to mind, but too rich for my blood…. It’ll be interesting to see what the prices look on the preowned market down the road once the dust settles.
@Kbo513
@Kbo513 10 ай бұрын
I received mine in NY after 1 month in inquiring the watch. It’s a great looking watch. I got to see all of the colored models except the titanium version in person before I made the decision on the black dial. You have to see them in person to really help you decide on the design. Also the watch arrives with a few half links and full links, so even though it doesn’t have a quick adjust, you can get a better fit than what I got from my old Cartier Santos medium.
@shie6523
@shie6523 9 ай бұрын
I bought mine (black dial) on Saturday. Did yours come with spare big and small links?
@boop8621
@boop8621 8 ай бұрын
If you think Patek and AP didn’t change the original design you are flat out wrong. iWC was very faithful to the original and improved the design where necessary. The original of all 3 integrated bracelet designs needed quite a few improvements
@defenstrator4660
@defenstrator4660 6 ай бұрын
This watch is everything I wanted the ingenuir to be. Except for some reason it’s more expensive than a Datejust or comparable Grand Seiko.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 6 ай бұрын
The watch is perfect but the price is quite steep.
@defenstrator4660
@defenstrator4660 15 күн бұрын
@@OneManReviews Well now I own one. Now that the initial hype is over the dealers are open to a price that is much closer to what it should be. Comparing in real life I went with the aqua dial. I felt it was vivid and gave it a lot of life. The white was my second favorite. I am loving it, and I am happy I waited to get the right price.
@BartMan59
@BartMan59 10 ай бұрын
So, Jory Goodman - the Time Teller compared the recently released IWC Ingenuer for $14K and the Baume & Mercer Automatic Rivera for less than $4K and the very close similarities. As you stated, both pieces are designed by G. Genta both pieces fm the Richmont Group. IMHO, it would be hard to justify OVERPRICED IWC over the B&M Rivera.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 10 ай бұрын
I don't think that Reviera was designed by Gerald Genta. It's the work of Jean-Claude Gueit.
@TomasOlivaMusic
@TomasOlivaMusic 6 ай бұрын
If not the price, it would already be in my collection.
@bdegrds
@bdegrds 6 ай бұрын
With IWC's catalogue of annual Calanders, perpetual Calanders and tourbillons also the latest eternal Calander, I would argue that they are competitive with brands in the holy trinity.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 6 ай бұрын
They've had watches with complications and tourbillons for quite a while models like Da Vinci Perpetual Calendar for example from the early 90s. But it doesn't mean they can be put on the same level as the holy trinity brands or even JLC.
@bdegrds
@bdegrds 5 ай бұрын
​​@@OneManReviewsthe bracelet, case and dial finishing on the ingeniur is better than many Jlc, but of course Jlc has some of the best movements. Ingeniur is 4k CAD cheaper than, Piaget polo, GP laurriato, Chopard Alpine eagle, Bvlgari Octo etc. And about same price as Polaris no date.
@kevinwan217
@kevinwan217 10 ай бұрын
Still waiting for my titanium to arrive, probably Q2/Q3
@mrfreemin4321
@mrfreemin4321 10 ай бұрын
Great review, thank you. I haven't seen many videos out there on this watch, its a frustrating piece purely because of the price but i guarantee that if it was the sensible price we were all hoping for, you wouldn't be able to buy it at retail anyway.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 10 ай бұрын
Thanks and maybe you're right. Right now you can order this model from IWC boutique only.
@jerryglasses2229
@jerryglasses2229 7 ай бұрын
Id bet 9 of 10 people complaining cant afford the watch. Just look at the competitions prices and youd see this is right in the middle. Holy Trinity is 2 or 3 times the price. Streamliner? Antartique? Lauriato? Tonda? Alpine eagle? Polo? All more expensive. Zenith Defy is just under and everone seems to hate that watch. Id say this watch is priced right but overall the prices for steel integrated bracelet watch has gotten out of control.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 7 ай бұрын
Piaget, GP, Chopard, Czapek, and Moser you mentioned are in a very different league than IWC. Ingenier is a great watch but too overpriced. It's like if Tissot would be charging Omega prices.
@musiclover4311
@musiclover4311 4 ай бұрын
I've never, EVER heard anybody say: This watch is underpriced. It is inexpensive, it should cost more. Human nature.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 4 ай бұрын
There were watches like that.
@hfgordon
@hfgordon 5 ай бұрын
Looking at other iwc models such as top gun chronograph, they are also stupidly expensive. Huge discount on the second market.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 5 ай бұрын
Yep. IWC watches are loosing great deal on the secondary market.
@edjack1993
@edjack1993 10 ай бұрын
To answer your video title: no, of course not. But it’s a lovely watch.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 10 ай бұрын
Agree.
@RuZgAr____
@RuZgAr____ 7 ай бұрын
2023 new edition version is more beautiful than 1970 first edition version! So I mean that We cannot say 2023 Ingenieur model is not original Gerald Genta design! We should say that It’s IWC Ingenieur 2023 Gerald Genta design new edition version.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 7 ай бұрын
Sure, that's another way to look at it.
@nikolaosbeglitis5508
@nikolaosbeglitis5508 4 ай бұрын
I don't understand why people would like to buy this instead of used Ingenieurs that are nicer and at a quarter of the price. Is this nicer than a Mission Earth? I don't think so.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 4 ай бұрын
I like the oder Ingenieur version also. But the pre-owned prices for those are also quite high.
@nenadcubric2663
@nenadcubric2663 9 ай бұрын
Without those Crown Guards would look much better
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 9 ай бұрын
I think so too.
@mikemush9741
@mikemush9741 9 ай бұрын
I had no idea Larry Bird was a watch designer. Is there anything that guy can't do?
@nihkoh
@nihkoh 10 ай бұрын
I take a CW twelve indeed :):)
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 10 ай бұрын
Something I haven't had my hand on yet :)
@Peps.
@Peps. 10 ай бұрын
А мне циферблат напоминает больше не шахматный паттерн , а миллиметровую бумагу, что как бы логично в случае с инженером:)
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 10 ай бұрын
That's an interesting connection idea :)
@boop8621
@boop8621 8 ай бұрын
If you’re balking at 11k, this watch is not for you.
@MeestroDavid
@MeestroDavid 9 ай бұрын
I don't get the idea that the price of the watch is justified because other Genta-inspired watches cost even more. Of course AP and Pateks cost more. They're highly exclusive, hand-made, hand-finished to an incredible standard, and use in-house, highly decorated movements. The IWC is none of that and to claim that the design's inspiration in work they paid Genta for over 50 years ago should add any value or cost is straight-up ridiculous. Imagine VW charging $75,000 for a new Golf because the same designer that did the original in 1973 also designed higher-priced exotics for Maserati, Lotus, and Alfa Romeo.
@asiafas
@asiafas 10 ай бұрын
None of the high end watches are worth the price but it’s what they want to sell them for and it’s up to you to decide if you are happy to part with the money, every person sees value in a different way that’s why there are different products and price points for everyone. Get over the price and focus on the great points of this watch it is exceptional in all aspects as pointed out in the video. You can just see how much thought engineers have put into this and that has to be respected and it comes at a price which is not for everyone
@tudorserban111
@tudorserban111 10 ай бұрын
There's "not worth it" and then there's "holy shit totally not worth it". This watch is the latter.
@sauron7187
@sauron7187 4 ай бұрын
It is the same Watch chopard alpine eagle. If it would be no no name brand, everyone says clone or fake
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 4 ай бұрын
The Chopard Eagle is a very different watch.
@sauron7187
@sauron7187 4 ай бұрын
@@OneManReviews look, the both of watch’s shape. Who cares mechanism, power reserve, precious materyals. Being a Gerald Genta design is not enough to answer all the questions
@Nakkisampyla
@Nakkisampyla 7 ай бұрын
Nice watch but highly overpriced for most of engineers.
@tomkhong9828
@tomkhong9828 5 ай бұрын
Getting tired of Genta’s design hype.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 5 ай бұрын
A little bit too much. But IWC has all the rights to bring it back.
@techfun1400
@techfun1400 7 ай бұрын
Awesome watch but mispriced ofc. What a pity!
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 7 ай бұрын
Very sad.
@DanielJamieson-u4q
@DanielJamieson-u4q 8 ай бұрын
I can tell you were excited...lol
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 8 ай бұрын
I was :)
@kurtquincy2919
@kurtquincy2919 Ай бұрын
Perez Kevin Anderson Mark Robinson Elizabeth
@leeharding8306
@leeharding8306 10 ай бұрын
No chronometer certification for all that cash 🤦🏻‍♂️ these are going to bomb on the grey market 👎🏼 a missed opportunity at a crazy price point 🤦🏻‍♂️
@markhammerschmidt5315
@markhammerschmidt5315 10 ай бұрын
The movement argument is a nonsense. Patek uses the same movement in the entry level Calatrava as it does the Nautilus/Aquanaut yet no one complains about that. Does the movement do the intended job is all that matters.
@atl3630
@atl3630 10 ай бұрын
That’s because it’s a Patek movement, not a mass produced Richmont movement. This thing is half-assed and it shows. And there are plenty of people on KZbin, people who know watches, who complain about Patek and APs basic movements in some of their most iconic watches.
@markhammerschmidt5315
@markhammerschmidt5315 10 ай бұрын
@@atl3630 you think a Patek movement isn’t mostly mass produced? You think it’s all hand finished and not CNC? Bless you.
@patsmith3894
@patsmith3894 9 ай бұрын
The IWC 32111 movement is terrible. I have a Mark XX. Omega, JLC, and Rolex are far more accurate. Read the forms about this movement. They keep poor time, are unreliable, and do a bizarre hand jump when set.
@markhammerschmidt5315
@markhammerschmidt5315 9 ай бұрын
@@patsmith3894 mine so far is accurate to within COSC spec. Rolex are guaranteed -2+2 and Omega are similar so I would never use those to compare accuracy and I don’t expect the IWC to be. As for unreliable please say in what way rather than just make a sweeping statements. Has yours been unreliable or has a jumping hand when time setting?
@markhammerschmidt5315
@markhammerschmidt5315 9 ай бұрын
@@patsmith3894 so I’ve looked at the last 5 years of posts on WUS and there’s only a couple of posts specifically about the 32111 accuracy (which there are similar posts for virtually all watch brands/models) and nothing about the minute hand moving when time setting. The only reference to that are a handful of comments on Reddit in response to the video from the woman in the US. This is a non issue and certainly perhaps while cosmetically irritating doesn’t affect the movement performance. So I’m sorry but your comment that the 32111 is a terrible movement simply doesn’t stack up.
@demhana11
@demhana11 20 күн бұрын
It's the crownguard for me. Hate em.
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 20 күн бұрын
Would be nicer without them.
@Robert-vw3od
@Robert-vw3od 10 ай бұрын
The baume Riviera has the same movement inside it’s fabulous Watch, and in my country it costs roughly £3500. yes, the bracelet on the iwc is fantastic, but you have to ask how much is that worth. none of the Gerald genta watchesc watches were an immediate Success At the time. it’s ridiculous and it’s nonsense and as the ID guy said earlier yesterday in his video it’s all over the Watch industry.
@mkyhou1160
@mkyhou1160 10 ай бұрын
That’s what I think too, save your $ and buy the Riveria. Only difference is the brand name.
@Robert-vw3od
@Robert-vw3od 10 ай бұрын
@@mkyhou1160 the IWC has a far superior bracelet and that has to be worth a lot of money. I acknowledge that but you’re only talking a couple of thousand at the most so that takes us to about 5500 .
@markhammerschmidt5315
@markhammerschmidt5315 10 ай бұрын
Patek Calatrava has the same movement as the Nautilus with huge price differences! So what!!
@Robert-vw3od
@Robert-vw3od 10 ай бұрын
@@markhammerschmidt5315 Watch, there’s no comparison . Patek one of the few brands that genuinely are truly prestigious. All of their watches are going to be understandably, very expensive.
@Muktarani-q3e
@Muktarani-q3e 2 ай бұрын
Clark Christopher Rodriguez Carol Perez Amy
@Fb1907kysf
@Fb1907kysf 6 ай бұрын
Same movement mark xx is the half price of this watch. Awkward. Its too expensive
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 6 ай бұрын
They did overprice it.
@ConnieDana-n6n
@ConnieDana-n6n Ай бұрын
Rodriguez Sarah Smith Deborah Brown Maria
@IAmMarcoJordan
@IAmMarcoJordan 10 ай бұрын
W G. Genta. L IWC. Simply not deserving of the price tag
@BurneJonesClaire-b1v
@BurneJonesClaire-b1v 27 күн бұрын
Johnson Deborah Jones Sandra Martinez Thomas
@ConnieDana-n6n
@ConnieDana-n6n Ай бұрын
Hernandez John Williams Richard Lewis Donald
@davefufeturner8028
@davefufeturner8028 Ай бұрын
Young Paul Hall Jason Martinez Ronald
@zhan9207
@zhan9207 10 ай бұрын
Beautiful watch, but the price tag can not be justified 😅
@donaleeesio
@donaleeesio 10 ай бұрын
The zero infront of the numbers on the same date disc are stupid and unnecessary for a three hander.
@markhammerschmidt5315
@markhammerschmidt5315 10 ай бұрын
Well that’s how Genta designed it originally so…..
@donaleeesio
@donaleeesio 10 ай бұрын
No, he didn't!!
@markhammerschmidt5315
@markhammerschmidt5315 10 ай бұрын
@@donaleeesio oh yeah - so what. Most like it. I like it. What is the problem exactly other than just you don’t like it?
@donaleeesio
@donaleeesio 10 ай бұрын
Because it's not suitable for classic mechanical time piece. that's why you don't see any other watch brand do that unless it's a dual date disc like A. Lange Datograph.
@markhammerschmidt5315
@markhammerschmidt5315 10 ай бұрын
@@donaleeesiosorry but this is just your opinion since there’s no rules about what is right or wrong! Personally I like it a lot as it’s a nice change from most others, and I’m perfectly happy with it in my own Ingenieur.
@MosesCarr-g2b
@MosesCarr-g2b Ай бұрын
Jones Frank Perez Donna Garcia Linda
@watch_beginer2056
@watch_beginer2056 10 ай бұрын
Great watch but over priced
@OneManReviews
@OneManReviews 10 ай бұрын
And that’s a shame.
@thetruebatman4632
@thetruebatman4632 10 ай бұрын
Loved this watch until the price was revealed. Then Christopher Ward said “Hold up… check this out: TWELVE.” I think they did an unbelievable job of slapping IWC in the mouth lol.
@_DioBrando_
@_DioBrando_ 10 ай бұрын
Too thick and too expensive for what it is. Pass 👎
@mohnnadmercedes8246
@mohnnadmercedes8246 10 ай бұрын
Hype train bro
@Noner1234
@Noner1234 10 ай бұрын
Maybe for 4-5k
@razakkalik9072
@razakkalik9072 10 ай бұрын
Looks like chopard alpine eagle
@mickeylickey123
@mickeylickey123 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's price in unrealistic and there is no reason for it, other than greed.
@AS-po9pm
@AS-po9pm 10 ай бұрын
German arrogance will not work .
@koolpep
@koolpep 10 ай бұрын
IWC is Swiss…..and always was Swiss. Just located in the German speaking part of Switzerland.
@AS-po9pm
@AS-po9pm 10 ай бұрын
tnx but clear to me, just talked about the German ARROGANCE..
@koolpep
@koolpep 10 ай бұрын
@@AS-po9pm So how is a Swiss watch company applying German arrogance then? As a German, I would like to understand that. Is there a special German arrogance that’s different to Swiss arrogance? 🤔
@markhammerschmidt5315
@markhammerschmidt5315 10 ай бұрын
@@koolpepignore it, he’s just trolling with nothing better to do.
@koolpep
@koolpep 10 ай бұрын
@@markhammerschmidt5315 haha. Yeah - why am I even bothering. 🤣 thanks
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