Is The New Testament Doing Midrash Or Mimesis?

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[@forgottenbooksofhistory]

Really appreciate these insights on how the New Testament blends Midrash and Mimesis! It’s great to see how you didn’t just stick to one method but used both to connect Jesus to the Jewish tradition while also pulling in other themes. It’s like you were creating a bridge between the old and the new, which totally adds a new layer to how we understand these texts. Looks like I’ll need to stew on the idea of using these interpretative methods for literary analyses on my own channel! Thanks a lot

[@FlaviusBrosephus]

Great discussion! Keep bringing the goods, Derek!

[@SonThoth]

Rashieme and the Tablet of Destinies

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

In my experience its a total waste of time arguing about what the bible is doing or says or doesn't say etc. Believer's believe on Faith, so you can poke as many holes in their bible as you like, they'll still believe because they didn't arrive at their belief by logic, reason and evidence so no amount of logic reason and evidence will persuade them.

[@shanegooding4839]

Agreed. But I think researching the origins and interpretive development of the texts has its own reward without trying to convince believers one way or the other. When Christians ask my opinion I'll always preface it by saying I have no interest in trying to deconvert or convert folks and instead believe it's a personal choice people should make for themselves. However I will give my honest opinions about scripture as someone who believes in non-Theistic spirituality.

[@StorytimeJesus]

I think it would be more relevant to figure out why Trumpers Trump.

[@meatloafhead]

I’d ask a believer, why believe in this book vs your own internal thoughts on god? The book is what turns normal folks into zealots

[@DeceptionStudiesHQ]

another banger 🔥🔥

[@panninggazz5244]

you are one wise guy...thank you for speaking to the elders.............it is more important than anyone may think it is at this time....thank you again...

[@leom6343]

Its not Midrash, its misquoting, changing and quoting out of context

[@KitJoseph32]

Yes, I think you are correct. The NT often does this.

[@Jesuslordoflords-y4m]

​@KitJoseph32 where?

[@jskok3280]

Dr. so and so and Dr so and so. You guys are really impressed with yourselves. Regardless of all your antics and bravado, every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. That includes you. You have a choice, either do it willingly whilst you are on earth, or you will be forced to bow and confess after you depart this earth.

[@failyourwaytothetop]

Inter-textual projects

[@Azupiru]

The Media are the Message.

[@jacobpast5437]

Examples for Midrash and Mimesis would have been helpful

[@RL.777]

Midrash is a Jewish debate among Torah scholars to get a deeper understanding of the scriptures

[@jacobpast5437]

@@RL.777 That is an explanation, not an _example_

[@RL.777]

@@jacobpast5437 you would need to understand the Torah to even understand the deeper debates of the midrash

[@jacobpast5437]

@@RL.777 So you are saying that I cannot understand what Midrash is (an example being easier than an explanation)

[@jacobpast5437]

*Biblical Text (Genesis 1:3):* _And God said, 'Let there be light,' and there was light._ *Midrashic Interpretation:* In one Midrash (Genesis Rabbah 3:4), the rabbis ask why God created light first. The Midrash suggests that before God created the physical light, there was already spiritual light, which represents the wisdom and knowledge of God. This spiritual light was hidden away for the righteous in the world to come because the world as it was could not fully comprehend or handle this pure light. This Midrash adds layers of meaning to the simple biblical verse by suggesting that the light mentioned in Genesis 1:3 is not just physical light but also a metaphor for divine wisdom and goodness. It also introduces the idea of hidden light that is reserved for the righteous, a theme that appears elsewhere in Jewish thought. Thx

[@SonThoth]

The Book is Called: Rashieme and the Tablet of Destinies

[@aintnoslice3422]

Dr Macdonald looks like he's being held hostage.

[@StorytimeJesus]

Is the OT doing midrash or mimesis? Elijah is introduced with the rebuilding of Jericho and Jesus son of Nun's curse on it is recalled. As Elijah walks to his 'death,' he reverses the path Jesus took in conquering Canaan, including splitting the Jordan river's waters. Throughout, Elijah mimics many of Moses's life events, including meeting YHWH one on one at Mt. Horeb. At Horeb, Moses is promised a leader to take the people into Canaan (Jesus) and Elijah was promised a warrior to kill those not killed by Jehu and Hazael (Elishua). Nehemiah is the only other place Jesus son of nun is mentioned. In Nehemiah, Ezra imitates Jesus son of Nun on an elevated platform, 6 Levites on either side as he reads the Law to the people in the promised land. (In Ezra, Ezra imitates Moses by introducing the law, appointing judges, prayerfully repenting for the people, and then splitting up mixed couples as in the Peor incident in Numbers. Nehemiah, meanwhile, reverses the destruction of Jericho by Jesus son of Nun as the walls of Jerusalem are rebuilt. (This is myth, so it does not matter that the walls were rebuilt in Ezra already.) The walls are rebuilt, and the Levites circle the city on top of the walls in celebration, playing instruments and shouting. Jesus son of Jehozadak replays the raising up of Jeconiah at the Babylonian court in Jeremiah 52. A sacking of Jerusalem (586?, 300?) is replayed in terms of Absalom's rebellion in Zechariah 9-14. All of these seems like mimesis.

[@EdwardM-t8p]

It's also diegetic transposition! The gospels were copied from a lost hagiography of Julius Caesar but the mimesis of Homer and the Greek tragedians and the midrash of the Tanakh (Greek translations) cleverly make the transposition not obvious and impossible to be accomplished by accident through copying errors (Francesco Carotta's goofy hypothesis).

[@russrussel3947]

Only the first five books of the Septuagint were translated by 72 RABBIS, FORCED under Ptolemy.

[@dibarra5461]

The Septuagint was a still a widely accepted translation by jewish sages of the time, it wasn't until the 2nd century CE that the rabbis started saying that the translation was wrong because they saw how christians used the translation to prove they were right.

[@russrussel3947]

@@dibarra5461 Ptolemy FORCED 72 Jewish Sages to "translate" the HEBREW into greek. The Oral Tradition written down was the only way anyone knew how the words were pronounced since the vowels are Holy and have layers of Meaning which can't be "Translated" into greek 👉 See Rabbi Aaron L. Raskin's book "Letters Of Light" (a Chabad emissary to downtown Brooklyn)💡 When the Jewish Sages were FORCED to do this, it was like when Aaron was FORCED to create the Golden Calf. This is the Month Of Av. greek Academics should listen to an Orthodox Rabbi for once, out of Respect.💔💙 The Tanakh is "JC" Free.

[@dibarra5461]

@@russrussel3947 Your accusation completely contradicts the fact that Ptolemy got 72 actual jewish sages with expertise in the holy texts because he wanted a translation as accurate as possible to have in his library. Why would he want the sages to distort the texts in the first place? It would make the whole reason of why he gathered them useless in the first place. Not to mention that it was the Alexandrian Jews and Hellenized Jews who used the Septuagint, not the gentiles.

[@russrussel3947]

@@dibarra5461 "Your accusation"... Jewish History is Jewish History and belongs to Judaism and the Pharisees (Orthodox Rabbis) who safeguarded it. Those Sages were FORCED to do it and Jewish History sees it as likened to the Golden Calf incident, which it was. Co-opting a LANGUAGE and Holy Book by FORCE into a lesser language to be WATERED DOWN and made Unholy is a crime against ORTHODOX JUDAISM.

[@dibarra5461]

@@russrussel3947 Of course it was made by the pharisees, those guys completely changed history and interpretations after the Second Temple was destroyed, and made up a so called "Oral Torah" which was never mentioned even a single time during the Second Temple Period or any period before.

[@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf]

I have bad beard rash mate

[@fallujah0351]

Derek, stop kneeling behind the speaker, it creates anxiety

[@Godisandrogynous]

lmao why are you so damn close to him 😂😂 are yall dating!? no hate love the channel and im bi myself. just thought it was odd

[@umunhum3]

This is not that difficult to Understand Jesus, Abraham, Moses, Jacob and all the other prophets taught the Exact Same Methodology of how the Soul transcends the individual mind and returns to GOD To do this you must become a Christ (an Anointed One) Jesus turned water into wine (christened his blood), Moses went up to the land of Milk and Honey, Jacob wrestled at Pineal (Gland) All of them practiced Breathing Exercises to Stimulate their Pituitary and Pineal Glands to make DMT which Stills the Breath and the Heart, opens up the Central Column of the Spine which allows the Soul to reconnect to GOD The Bible can be summarized in 4 Words, Be Still and KNOW There is No Difference in the Teachings of a Buddhist Mystic, Hindu Mystic, Jewish Mystic, Christian Mystic or a Sufi All disagreement comes from the followers of the Masters who don't put labels on their teaching

[@saulmighty]

Woo-woo "intuitive logic" with a few scientific terms sprinkled in for good measure. You forgot "quantum". And stop With This Kind of Punctuation Thing because it's a tabloid trick for the gullible.

[@Jesuslordoflords-y4m]

Jacob wrestled with the Angel of the Lord who is identified as God, then he called the name of the place Peniel, the means in Hebrew "Face of God"

[@umunhum3]

@@Jesuslordoflords-y4m And he took the fat, and the rump, and all the fat that was upon the inwards, and the caul above the liver, and the two kidneys, and their fat, and the right shoulder: And he put all upon Aaron's hands, and upon his sons' hands, and waved them for a wave offering before the Lord. From Leviticus 8 The Practice is called Nauli You have to stimulate the lower glands to make the precursor hormones that the Pituitary and Pineal Glands turn into DMT. (Christen the Blood or turn water into wine) Absorption of the "Milk and Honey" is how you stop the "Wind and the Waves" (Breath and the Heart) and become Still and Know (become a Christ) You have to sit in the posture padmasana This is how Jacob threw out his hip wrestling with The Father What do you think the "Well" was that Jacob, Moses, and Jesus met a woman Scripture is full of Parables about Breathing Exercises Read what King Solomon taught about one who cannot control his Spirit (Breath)