IS THE PRO-V1 DEAD!? VICE PRO PLUS vs TITLEIST PRO-V1!

[@kyshapka]

The Vice Pro Plus compares more to the ProV1X. That would explain the feel difference. Anyway, I play the Vice Pro and love it. Great ball.

[@jameshuntington5330]

Thanks for the review James. I use Vice and I love them. At first I was a little sceptical, but having bought them and used them consistently over the summer I'm in love. I like supporting the brand and the quality is great. They work well for me, and free personalisation (offers come a couple of times a year) is brilliant. Please get these out on the course for a "real life" review.

[@alexetchesgolf]

If I had a pint of beer for everytime you said “golf ball”! ...I’d be sloshed!

[@alexetchesgolf]

Swinging really good today!

[@chrissellings]

@@alexetchesgolf who you or Robbo? I want to see you do a long drive vid with James. Give him a head start!

[@neiltaylor1765]

Next review watch with a bottle of vodka and a shot glass? Good drinking game potentially 🍻🍻

[@spcyman7209]

Neil Taylor I’m in. It’s Friday 👍

[@mikeowen6445]

@@neiltaylor1765 liver failure

[@robhutton2661]

I think ball tests should always be carried out on a course. Got to see how they fly in varying wind conditions, how the bounce, how they land and also spin.

[@brentcolby7670]

James i am a 9 handicap and used to play pro v1x, i switched to the vice pro plus and absolutely love them. plus free monograming. i wont go back.

[@andreasball4845]

James, another great video! Could you please make a review about the Vice Tour Ball? There are hardly any reviews out there about this ball and I’m very interested in your opinion.

[@troyrambo6804]

I just started using the Snell ball. I do not like Titleist. I also play the Callaway Chrome soft x, which is also a great ball.

[@Athon08]

Got some Snell MTB X with my plumbing company name and number on them....should have done this sooner. 5 weeks in and I’ve only lost 2....free advertising. Can’t advertise when you don’t lose them though 🤣🤣

[@williammathew9162]

I have used several premium balls but in my opinion the Bridgestone Tour B XS is the best ball on the market. Distance is great, spin is consistent and predictable around the greens, and feel off the face is awesome. Love playing them and will continue

[@BlindZombee]

would love to see you test the pro-v1 against the Snell MTB-x which feels lovely but god knows which is actually a better ball. I know your mate Chris is a fan of the Snell!

[@andyran]

I play ProV1x buy them once a year 4 dozen for the price of 3 = £2.60 per ball... Everyone always forgets they do the bulk deals too 😒

[@davidrowney6343]

The vice gets down to $24/dozen which is $2/ball. $2.60 is a great price for a prov1 though

[@andyran]

@@davidrowney6343 Great price at $2 a ball! Note my costs are UK Sterling. Might work out closer to $2 a ball in the US

[@collink7145]

@@andyran conversion goes the other way. £2.60 is about $3.36 USD at the time of this comment

[@yanistsiopani2120]

Where and when do these offers come up please bud? I'm in the UK too... contemplating trying the Snell!

[@andyran]

@@yanistsiopani2120 American golf or direct from titleist. Most places show the offers when they are on. Usually march time

[@rglover2410]

Been playing the Vice Pro Plus this season. Absolutely love it! They’re even cheaper when you buy them as Pearl grade lake balls 😄

[@ryanmarshall1952]

Using Taylormade Project A, going to try the TP5 to see what the difference is.

[@fretless05]

I use Cut Grey golf ball; they're another brand that claims to compare to premium balls at far lower prices. As a mid-teen handicapper, I don't know that the difference between them and the Pro-V1s is at all important, but I'd love to see you compare the two. Cut grey (non-bulk) are $20 US, which are substantially less than the Pro-V1s.

[@rickhammel9541]

I'm trying out the Vice Pro Plus, and have to say I'm very impressed. Hit a few drives in the 320-330 range yesterday, and even a 3 wood went around 310. I was outdriving my son almost every hole, and on the last driver hole, I had him by 25 yards, and he said, "it must be my ball!" He was playing the ProV1X, lol

[@Softouch333]

Good to hear as my Vice Pro Plus just arrived. Price increase for my Pro V1X had me looking, and I’m giving the Neon Red a try because of ailing eyes. Can’t get that in a Titleist :)

[@christophergreen6093]

I started playing the Bridgestone bx ball this year and love it!!!! I do not need spin and this is great!!! I think the b-xs is a great choice for those that do.

[@johnharris2353]

I really enjoy the human aspect of your videos. Leaving the shank in, instead of taking it out. I think that really provides a relatable feeling to your videos. Well done, I enjoyed the comparison. I’m curious what you think of the Snell MTB-X as a comparison for a lower cost ball to the pro-v.

[@justinsmith2918]

Great video as always sir! I use TP5 but I have used ProV-1 and tried Vice but I do love my TP5's lol

[@justinstephenson9360]

James being an archetypical Yorkshire - lose a few too many golf balls and no meal out for the wife!

[@christomkinson2143]

I'm playing the seed ball at the moment , the introductory offer was too good to turn down . I would definitely love to see you review the seed ball . It worked out about £25 delivered for 12 and you get 100 tee's with your first purchase. Always wanted to try the vice but I'm liking the seed and they are slightly cheaper

[@paulcromie5785]

I am now on to my second delivery of seed and they are fantastic

[@markwoodward1716]

Titleist NXT Tour S was my rock of choice until they stopped making them. After lots of experimentation I landed on Bridgestone E12 Soft. After your review last week, I bought a dozed TM Soft Response. First round with them was Sunday; LONG and straight, but the cover did not hold up well. One tree, one cart path, a couple wedges; 3 balls to get through one round. Going to play a round today with Titleist Velocity. Still searching but E12 is still the winner so far.

[@alanl902]

Let’s see these out on the course. Would like to see compared to some others as well. Should do a comparison on “distance” balls, see which one goes further and how they work/don’t work around the greens.

[@simonhague2674]

I've played ProV1 for years but a mate gave me a sleave of Vice Pro+ and I've really enjoyed them. For me, they react much like a ProV1x - A bit more spin than the ProV1 but a good ball flight. Great in the wind but the main difference for me is that they are less clicky off the putter (which is why I don't use the ProV1x). So if you want the spin characteristics of the ProV1x but the feel off the putter of the ProV1... this is th eball for you

[@gavinhumphreys6152]

Just started using TP5’s recently, really enjoying them

[@dewightsupplee8757]

Put the Pro V 1 against the Tiger " Bridgestone ".

[@DIFFIEH]

They are all the bloody same ffs! Us amateurs need to stop thinking this is going to make a blind bit of difference!

[@dewightsupplee8757]

They are not the same! If you found the right ball for your swing, you would be a better amateur.

[@johnbrodnik839]

Yes. You could be up to 10 yards further in to the Woods!!

[@stevenpulley7648]

Thanks for the video. I've used Ttitleist Pro V1 forever and "Yes" they are expensive. I recently tried the Vice Pro and have been looking for an evaluation between the two. So again thanks for the video. I have reently gone to the practice range and between the two, I think Titleist does better around the green than Vice. MAybe because I've used Titleist for so long and become use to it. I will give more content as I progress. Talk soon.

[@golf007sd2]

I recently got these balls and so far loving it. I play the Bridgestone 2020 Tiger ball, the Kirkland, and now the Pro+.

[@davidjohnson5451]

I currently play the Bridgestone e6 soft. Hit a few Srixon Qstars this year. Love the feel of both. I can not get myself to pay $48-$51 per dozen for ProV1 here in the states. Great video. Thanks

[@timquinton5530]

Hey James, great channel, love your enthusiasm for the game! I've heard from a bunch of your fellow KZbinrs that one of the main selling points (and strong points) of the Pro V1 is the consistency in the manufacturing process. Each ball is high quality, ie good quality control. Some other manufacturers' balls, not so much. So that may be why Titleist has been the gold standard for a while now. You know you're getting a great ball every time. Keep those reviews and comparisons coming!

[@rosscowan3612]

TP5 or TP5 pix for me, beats a pro v1 hands down! Softer, more responsive around the greens, great distance and durable!! Great video 🏌️‍♂️

[@joeygreear7099]

Bridgestone Tour B RX has performed the best for me so far. Tried several different ones this year to find what’s best for me.

[@timdetrick3837]

I’m doing an on course comparison between a few golf balls. Vice pro and vice drive, tp5, and snell golf balls

[@robmac9733]

Great review James. I used Pro V1x for years and was off scratch for many years. I am not a long hitter at all but my short game was always very good - even if I say so myself. Changed to Vice after having an enforced break from golf due to injury - because of cost of losing balls from wayward shots being more likely. I just cannot get them to "drop and stop" on the green like you can with a ProV1x. They will spin for sure and putting there is no difference. But for Wedges or pitching into greens, I just cannot get the performance. So I agree you get what you pay for. I would say for a mid to high handicapper Vice is a great choice. Below that if you spin the ball into greens - ProV1 or ProV1x is very hard to better.

[@lexxwhite747]

Where I live in Canada, after shipping costs the vice balls are still over 50 dollars a dozen, factor in the wait time and I'll pop down the street for my chrome softs anyday

[@msalzberg4962]

That's high. In the US, shipping is $7, and buying 5 dozen is $27/dozen, so, with shipping it's just over $28/dozen (when buying in bulk).

[@ivyfalls1]

Vice has become the ball for the younger, hipper, golfer. I have played the ProPlus for a couple of years and I feel it performs as well as the ProV1. 8 Handicap here.

[@johnmac4769]

I use the Srixon Zxv. A great ball at a better cost than the ProV1x. Goes far with good control around the green.

[@stephenbeach1933]

James, a dozen TP5-Pix at AG £39.99 at the mo, that's £3.33 each and halfway between the ProV1 and the Vice PP for 12 and i love the line up and the way the ball looks when you putt on on line (and it sometimes goes in) But, if i find a Vice pro, or a ProV1 they both get used without hesitation..!

[@warrenburch6545]

I'm currently using the Srixon Q-star Tour balls. I like the way they play.

[@jpbbridger7966]

Just switched from a Pro v1 to a Bridgestone B XS. I found a B XS in the rough, tried it & have bought a dozen. Performs just as good as a Pro v1 but gives me some extra yards off the tee. Also seems to have a similar soft feel with a wedge. Bonus is the price at £34.95 a dozen.

[@grinnders]

Thanks James this is exactly what I asked for. 👍🏻 Last season I mainly played Chromesoft but got a good deal on the Vice Pro Plus and have stuck with them this year.

[@simonhobbs9097]

Need to test them on the course James.

[@rollandhawkins8311]

James, I believe the Vice Pro is a match for the Pro V1 and the Vice Pro Plus is a match for the Pro V1X. The first two being 3 piece and the others being 4 piece.

[@Bahanaman75]

Playing the Seed Golf Pro-One. A brilliant ball from an Irish company.

[@jonhough7447]

Really interested in seeing it out on the course. Thanks for your work, really enjoy the channel.

[@michaelmoss3749]

I’ve played both the Snell MTB-X and MTB-Black. The “X” sounds and feels really hard but really flies. Probably 5-7 yards farther than any other ball, including the ProV1 I’ve hit. The “Black” is softer and flies comparable to the ProV1. The big thing I noticed is both Snell balls don’t “ballon” when you hit them. They have great penetrating flight. $32.99 (US) per dozen.

[@pir8grd]

I’d like to see more budget golf ball reviews. It’s by far the most consumed product in the game. While I love the club reviews, I think people would love videos on something they buy more of every few rounds than something like a $500 driver that they will be buying once every few years.

[@richardmerry9319]

You forgot to add the £4.99 shipping to the vice golf ball so they cost about the same as pro v1 for a dozen

[@mh_golfer]

Not if you buy 5 boxes than it is like $28 vs $44 a box and you get free shipping.

[@coreyvaillancourt]

Snell MTB X and MTB Black are the best direct to consumer balls on the market. They don’t scuff unless you drill it into a tree and even then sometimes it’s not even a big scuff. Also the performance is just as consistent as any major oem ball. Highly recommend 👍🏼 also cut makes a decent ball for $20 usd a dozen but they scuff easy.

[@dogwatergolf5345]

You and Chris use it for short game Saturday as a comparison around the greens

[@golfingCitizen]

I bought 5 dozen and got 2 dozen free for £16 a dozen for the Vice Pro + AND I live them! Quality

[@leedsumitedkennethbrown3456]

I play with the Snell MTB X golf balls you tested the MTB X black golf balls swear I get an extra 20 yards using these balls and they are great round and on the greens

[@williamheld7672]

I will be switching to the Vice pro plus. I tested it between the pro V1. I did on course testing. Couldn’t tell a difference in any performance. I like the putting line. For the price and performance. I can beat it.

[@codymulcahy1788]

Pro V1 has had it’s spin reduced while pro V1X is now the more spiny ball. TXG science.

[@gafeepat]

The way I understood it the pro plus is supposed to compare to the proV1x and the Vice Pro is closer to the regular proV1. I could be wrong but the pro plus is designed a little firmer for higher swing speeds so but less feel around the greens. I have noticed that the durability is a little lacking compared to the big premium names.

[@jimaverill1659]

ProV1X everything about it is cool ....the sound the feel when you make contact

[@MrRdholmes]

Im off 13 and played Titleist Trusoft, a budget, but decent ball. I have moved to the cheapest Vice ball, the Drive. I'm converted. i like the way it plays and feels. 60 of them are just great value for money. Honestly, it plays and feels, for me, at my level of golf, better than the Titleist.

[@marcst.7759]

Loved the "Marcel Siem/Seem" joke!!! :D

[@benmoore3839]

Vice Pro Plus is supposedly for driver swing speeds of 110 ‘plus’, hence the pro balls might go further if you’re only swinging around 108 ?? I tried the pro plus’s and found them harder to launch and chip around the greens with, currently gaming pro’s and really enjoying them, short game has improved a lot with a premium ball, wouldn’t fancy playing the pro plus’s in winter as they already feel quite hard and ‘clicky’ with wedges etc.

[@jacobgallaugher]

I use OnCore balls. Changed to them just this year after they offered me a free sleeve and I hit them better than any other ball I've ever gamed. I'd be interested to see you hit them in comparison to the Pro-V1s.

[@PFCAVB00]

pro plus is really more in line with the v1x. Its 4 piece and a little harder and spinny. Next time try the pro, its a 3 piece like the prov1. Ive been gaming the pro for a long time now. I am not a big fan of the driver spin of the pro plus.

[@jessecooper9795]

You're spot on mate! Not necessarily apples to apples comparison. I play the pro too and it's certainly a proper golf ball

[@frankdiciaula3194]

Hey James, thanks for doing the review! I’m fortunate I don’t lose a lot of balls throughout the season so I’m going to spend a little more and go with the Pro V1s. They’ve always performed the best for me and there doesn’t look like a reason to change.

[@Rikbo77]

The real savings with Vice are when they run their ‘Buy 5 boxes get 1 free’ promo. In actual fact, last time I bought from them it was 5+2, which I assume was them running down their old stock prior to the new gen balls coming out. Cost me £113 including delivery which worked out at £1.33 per ball. No brainer for me!

[@curtismelick2513]

The Snell mtb black is worthy of a test as well

[@lokidecat]

Inesis 900 vs ProV1 if you haven't already. I play the Inesis 100 (because.. $6 a dozen..) and losing a ball is way less painful and they play just fine... but they are harder than the 900s by far.

[@shawntaylor7442]

I still use Strata tour ultimate. They are basically ancient at this point, but they are still a premium ball IMO. If you could manage to find some, I'd love to see a modern review. They were marketed as a Pro V1 competitor 🤷‍♂️

[@charleshuffman1019]

Tp5 right now but I just got vice and some snell's to try. Love the ball vs ball vids. Ty.

[@leemaskel3236]

Timing is everything, I'm swinging good today. SHANK. Brilliant. I play the AVX, PRO V1 spins to much for me and the AVX feels much softer to me.

[@barracatcher6466]

Try the Wilson staff duo soft plus. You’ll be impressed.

[@sievans79]

I used to play Vice Pro or Pro Plus, loved the Yellow they use. Buying 5 dozen used to work out at £1.67 a ball, think they've raised their prices a little too much. No doubt still decent value, but it's into Bridgestone territory now so not a straightforward choice for me anymore. So I've gone to Inesis 900. 👍🏻

[@jeremytjensvold9936]

I use the Vice Pro and I love them..

[@aaronnimz3807]

I have played Snell and Vice...the biggest difference is the durability of the ball. Performance is there.

[@garyhague5882]

Been using Callaway super soft as I had about 6 dozen but now moving to Titleist trufeel. They cost about the same but I think I get better feel around and into the green.

[@malks71]

I bought a uv torch and walk the golf courses with in distance from my house ..Titleist , Vice , TP5s , Callaway and Srixon in abundance I’ve that many I give them away or sell them on 👍🏻

[@devonmccalla498]

I use the snell mtb black ball or the Bridgestone BX ball. They go further than pro v’s for me. You should test the snell balls.

[@jasonleebryant]

Another great video James. Loving the content, although you could wind up Foxy a bit more 🤣

[@michaelackley1560]

As I usually comment on ball testing Maxfli tour for performance and feel. Enjoyed as usual.

[@Mungo-ul9pv]

I was using the vice pro plus and was loving them but not been able to buy them for an age so now using Bridgestone RXS

[@Klehocky1]

I hunt for lost balls in a forest that borders a golf course. I have played most premium balls. I’m 53 years old with a moderate swing speed. The best balls I’ve played are the Srixon Q-star tours.

[@martinbarnes8248]

Have been toying with the idea of these ‘bulk-but’ balls for a while, so this helps. What about testing Pearl Pure Pro?

[@connorrake269]

Used to use the Vice Tour ball and I did really like it but typically back to the Pro V since lockdown was lifted 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@inzanity812]

The tour ball felt much more like a srixon z star to me.

[@connorrake269]

@@inzanity812 good to know, never used the Srixons before!

[@Gatorgolfusa]

I love the Cut golf balls premium performance half the price! I've got a few Vice Drive golf balls in my bag and they are decent but I'm not worried if I hit one OB! CHEERS 🐊🏌️‍♂️⛳🇺🇸👌

[@djason9]

Would like to see a video comparing the TP5’s to the Vice balls.

[@josephtamulonis9200]

Your fore left is so consistent. Any thoughts going one or more ticks over towards open on the loft sleeve. It'll take your launch down a little, but might help with the overdraw to the left--maybe turn it into a baby push draw?

[@prufrok]

Good golfers fix their swing, not monkey around with adjustments

[@josephtamulonis9200]

I agree with you, but I wouldn't say it if his swing wasn't nearly 100% consistent. If he was in a good fitting with that level of consistency they would probably tell him he has the right shaft and maybe the right head and make tiny adjustments to help out his ball flight. That's all I'm saying.

[@andylinacre8231]

Bought a dozen a few weeks ago , ok for 6 six holes then it looked tired , strange to putt with ! Take them on the greens at your local place & see what you think , do you think they will be around in 5years time ?? Good show 👍👍

[@muffin0079]

Which balls are you rocking atm James? TP5? I’m undecided between pro v1x and left dash pro v1x. Or tp5x. Tried Bridgestone tour b x and they were good but not as good as titleist for me. Want a ball that does well in the wind as never stops here

[@jonathansheehan1467]

Hello James, Great video and very interesting test and comparison's. I was given one as a little token by captain on their captains day and yet to play it. I am now playing with the seed sd-01 pro 1. A very good lower cost ball too. Have you tried these yet?

[@brianelswick7374]

I haven't used Vice yet, but I've been testing out Snell MTB-X, Snell MTB Black, and OnCore ELIXR which all perform well. I just need to make a decision at some point (before next season at this point).

[@spcyman7209]

A few of my mates have been gaming Vice for a few years and have no intention of changing. Perhaps it’s for the spin around firm Links greens 🤷‍♂️

[@douglaslunsford7052]

Currently using Vice Tour, but going to the Vice Pro.

[@tonymoss2484]

Very interesting and probably reflects how I felt when I stuck them in the bag for a try. Agree with others, try Snell MTB-X, I tried these, felt they performed at least as good as ProV1 and have kept them in the bag👍🏻

[@keithfinley2939]

I buy used premium balls. Just got 3 dozen Z Stars rated "near mint" for $13.99 Canadian per dozen. That's about $11 US. Sometimes have alignment lines drawn on. No noticeable loss in performance. Lose up to 3 per round.

[@tommiethatcher7265]

Great ball comparison James and with those numbers with the titleist especially with the driver I would like to see you do a head to head with the taylormade you are currently gaming. I would definitely enjoy watching you use the vice out on the course. I have found some vice golf balls out on our course and I do find them to be a harder feeling ball

[@rutherfordhayes6300]

I started using the Vice pro this year and I really like them around the green, I am a high handicap and I am usually getting up on the green with my chips and two putting. Now I need to work on my tee to green 😫

[@langers1972pl]

Good morning James, any chance of putting the seed ball up against the pro v. Cheers.

[@docthreatt]

Used the Vice. They do what they say however they scuff and cut very easily.

[@charlesschindler9883]

I play the Vice Pro Soft and my wife plays the Vice Tour. I do like the balls slot.

[@charlesschindler9883]

Alot

[@bradfordcotta5925]

The Snell tests better. The detailed MyGolfSpy test had the Snell MTB-X finishing on top for distance and it was their overall best ball in all the testing. Vice is still solid, but also not as durable (you saw the paint on your wedge and when you held the ball up to the camera, we could see a piece of the cover already coming off after 3 wedge shots...that is the biggest complaint that other testers, like TXG, found with the Vice Pro). I tear them to shreds but don't tear up the Snell. That is the reason I changed.

[@davidstothard5735]

Been using vice for years ..

[@maz_mtb3266]

Been looking at these and Snell golfballs. Probably play some next season, snows about to fly here and I have enough golfballs to lose yet this year. haha

[@slicerjohn1897]

You should definitely see how they play on the course maybe even using both balls Texas style.

[@doyleweemes6611]

I just bought a dozen Vice Pro's (which are more comparable to the Pro V1, Pro Plus = Pro V1x), but I haven't played with them yet. Buying 5 dozen (including shipping) = $28.38 per dozen ($2.36/ball). Pro V1's are $47.99/dozen ($3.99/ball). And I never see Pro V1's less than that. If they are close to the Pro V1's, I'm sure that will be my new ball.

[@chrislutze1155]

I play the vice pro. I tried the pro plus but they seemed to go shorter to me than the vice pro. Agree with comments about pro v bulk deals, but getting 8 dozen pro v's for 300 dollars US or getting 12 dozen vice balls for 300 dollars US, all shipping costs being equal, throws the pro v being as inexpensive as vice when bought in bulk arguement right out the window. I'd be willing to try the Snell balls if I wasn't in love with the vice...maybe next time.