Is The Rapture Biblical?

There are some who strongly protest that the concept of the rapture is not biblical, and many who quickly point out that the word rapture is not even found in the Bible. Is the concept of the rapture biblical? In our study today, I will walk with you through the Bible, and answer many often asked questions about this debated subject.
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[@JustaThoughtNow]

I pray that I am alive and accompanied with my Wife and Son when Jesus comes to take us.

[@cs77smith67]

Most likely u will be

[@Hugh_Manitee]

All of you will be 33 years old when you arrive.

[@cs77smith67]

@@Hugh_Manitee that old I want to be 18 and handsome again 😂

[@Hugh_Manitee]

@@cs77smith67 Scripture says we dont know what we shall be like but we will be as He is. He died at 33. You'll be handsome. You'll be in a perfected immortal body. I'll get my hair, teeth, eyesight, strength and have it forever. Nobody will recognize me though. ☝️🤣👍

[@cs77smith67]

@@Hugh_Manitee that so true I agree 💯 however I might actually recognize you because remember on the Mount of tranfernmention when Jesus and three of his disciples were there and then a Moses and Elijah appear to them in their glorified body and even though they never seen Moses and Elijah, they still recognize them as if they'd known them for many years so with that being said I take that that even though I've never seen you, I'm going to recognize you when we get to the new heaven and new earth 🌍 but of course you will be in your glorified body looking great as well 😂👋😁. Oh glory be to our God 💪🙏

[@ThePokerdogs222]

An absolutely wonderful Bible Study Brother Tiff. That was the quickest 46 minutes ever. It was that good that it flew by. I’ve learned so much over the last few years listening to Your Studies and Preaching over and over again. Yes Billy Graham is my Hero too but You Tiff are absolutely My Hero and also My favorite Teacher and Preacher by far. I’m so thankful God brought You into My Life. Much Love to You and Judy and Your entire Family. ❤️

[@juliegreenslade7241]

Fantastic, I have learnt so much from you , Georgetown , Ontario , Canada . God bless you

[@cynthiahowell4756]

I started out listening to your talk on Do Pets Go To Heaven. I love your teaching and have now committed myself to listening to them all. I have learned so much already. I am a Christian and started going to church at 2 weeks old (I am now 65) and know my Bible pretty well....but when you really study God opens up new revelations time after time. God bless you and your ministry.

[@elizabethdevicente3363]

Praise God🙏 powerful message 🙏 Too many churches are asleep.Lord have mercy on them. Thank you again for this true prophecy 🙌🏻

[@debbiefernandez1874]

I think of God and Jesus all the time. Your teachings have helped me tremendously. I lived a very sinful life, I asked God and his son to deliver me. I struggle everyday hoping and praying learning so I am forgiven. I am a believer.

[@pamelamorris7302]

I enjoyed this teaching immensely! We are studying Revelation in my Bible study class, so this is perfect timing. Thank you!

[@cs77smith67]

What chapter are y'all on in revelation?

[@pamelamorris7302]

​@@cs77smith67 We will be studing Revelation Chapter 5 next week.

[@RandyRoth-mo3lz]

If the VERB "raptured" were used to describe someone being "caught up" or "gathered unto Him"... as Scripture shows the ACTION, there wouldn't have any rebuttals. However, the fact that we now have a new terminology (NOUN: rapture) to replace what Paul directly calls the event in 1 Cor 15:42-55, it begs the question on why you need a new term when Scripture shows that the fundamental foundation of our doctrine for eschatology is called "the resurrection of the dead"... Hebrews 6:1,2. If Paul called the event such, and shows that the dead are changed from corruptible to incorruptible at this event, and then REPEATS that fact in vs. 52,53, and includes the living who are changed from mortal to immortal. Paul declared which event he was referring to. This includes both the living and the dead. However, the term rapture removes the focus from the dead...and then redirects it to the living. Jesus, Peter and Paul all warn us about the deception surrounding His return... Matt 24:3,4, 2 Peter 3:15-17, 2 Thess 2;1-3. The art of deception is redirection... as any good magician knows. Paul considered himself a Pharisee of the Pharisees... and he had a issue with the Sadducees who taught that there was no resurrection of the dead... Acts 23:8. The passages in 1 Cor 15:42-55 and 1 Thess 4:13-18 are his rebuttals to that teaching.... he doesn't want us ignorant to what happens to the dead....vs 13.. they return with Christ...vs 14... and get there Earth suits back from the dust where they RISE FIRST out of to be Caught Up together with the living . The blaring fact concerning the resurrection of the dead, is that the physically dead bodies are brought back to life....the spiritual bodies never died... 2 Cor 5:8. The dead now need these physical bodies to rule and reign with Christ for 1000 years on a physical Earth. Paul directly states that these flesh and blood bodies do not go to heaven... 1 Cor 15:40-55..see vs 50. Yet the concept of a rapture is to suggest the opposite of Paul and suggest that everyone goes to heaven for 7 years... in which no Scripture states. The resurrection of the dead and the fabled rapture are concepts that are worlds apart.... Job told us about it.... Job 14:12... it happens when the heavens are destroyed....not 7 years prior..... Matt 24:35-51, 2 Peter 3:10. Those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the 1st resurrection... Rev 20:4-6. The rapturists ignores... and therefore remains ignorant about what happens to the dead.. which is exactly what Paul doesn't want us ignorant about in 1 Thess 4:13-18. If the rapture is the resurrection of the dead, then how do those who are martyred for not taking the mark resurrected at the FIRST resurrection...Rev 20:4-6? If we are told by the rapturists that the early church fathers... students of John... all taught a rapture.... then why did John not know about it... and tell us that those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the FIRST resurrection? John wrote the book of Revelation much later than Paul.... how is it that John wasn't aware?

[@cs77smith67]

@@pamelamorris7302 let me know when y'all get to revelation 6-8

[@moovgirl]

Wonderful study of the Rapture Brother Tiff! God bless you and Maranatha! (Come quickly Lord Jesus)

[@judithmccowan75]

Thank you for the years that you’ve invested in developing such a DEEP knowledge and understanding of Eschatology. I have NEVER heard anyone more well-studied on Scripture. God Bless You!

[@tmaddrummer]

Thank you Brother Tiff; if only "the church" had been teaching what you just succinctly and conclusively covered in just over 45 minutes, how better prepared and not ignorant the Body of Christ would be. All Glory to GOD ALMIGHTY! Praised Be YOU LORD JESUS CHRIST... Hallelujah!

[@stevenpaulk8788]

Thank you brother tiff. I just love how you make all this so understanding

[@Jwalkerow27]

Great word! Thank you for this. I pray that the Word continues to be stirred in you and in all of us as well.

[@teresitadelrosario2329]

Pastor Tiff, thank you so much for your teaching. I learned so much from you. God bless you and your family always.

[@user-uk4yb2of9q]

Thank you Pastor TIFF for the strong words.i have learnt a lot.god bless you.

[@dlaplante8955]

Thank you so much for this teaching. It will help me explain this to a friend who is claiming we will not be raptured.

[@silviahan]

Thank you so much for your love to God and JESUS and Holy Spirit!!!

[@deb533]

Awesome teaching, very helpful to share with those I love and care about...thank you!

[@RandyRoth-mo3lz]

If the VERB "raptured" were used to describe someone being "caught up" or "gathered unto Him"... as Scripture shows the ACTION, there wouldn't have any rebuttals. However, the fact that we now have a new terminology (NOUN: rapture) to replace what Paul directly calls the event in 1 Cor 15:42-55, it begs the question on why you need a new term when Scripture shows that the fundamental foundation of our doctrine for eschatology is called "the resurrection of the dead"... Hebrews 6:1,2. If Paul called the event such, and shows that the dead are changed from corruptible to incorruptible at this event, and then REPEATS that fact in vs. 52,53, and includes the living who are changed from mortal to immortal. Paul declared which event he was referring to. This includes both the living and the dead. However, the term rapture removes the focus from the dead...and then redirects it to the living. Jesus, Peter and Paul all warn us about the deception surrounding His return... Matt 24:3,4, 2 Peter 3:15-17, 2 Thess 2;1-3. The art of deception is redirection... as any good magician knows. Paul considered himself a Pharisee of the Pharisees... and he had a issue with the Sadducees who taught that there was no resurrection of the dead... Acts 23:8. The passages in 1 Cor 15:42-55 and 1 Thess 4:13-18 are his rebuttals to that teaching.... he doesn't want us ignorant to what happens to the dead....vs 13.. they return with Christ...vs 14... and get there Earth suits back from the dust where they RISE FIRST out of to be Caught Up together with the living . The blaring fact concerning the resurrection of the dead, is that the physically dead bodies are brought back to life....the spiritual bodies never died... 2 Cor 5:8. The dead now need these physical bodies to rule and reign with Christ for 1000 years on a physical Earth. Paul directly states that these flesh and blood bodies do not go to heaven... 1 Cor 15:40-55..see vs 50. Yet the concept of a rapture is to suggest the opposite of Paul and suggest that everyone goes to heaven for 7 years... in which no Scripture states. The resurrection of the dead and the fabled rapture are concepts that are worlds apart.... Job told us about it.... Job 14:12... it happens when the heavens are destroyed....not 7 years prior..... Matt 24:35-51, 2 Peter 3:10. Those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the 1st resurrection... Rev 20:4-6. The rapturists ignores... and therefore remains ignorant about what happens to the dead.. which is exactly what Paul doesn't want us ignorant about in 1 Thess 4:13-18. If the rapture is the resurrection of the dead, then how do those who are martyred for not taking the mark resurrected at the FIRST resurrection...Rev 20:4-6? If we are told by the rapturists that the early church fathers... students of John... all taught a rapture.... then why did John not know about it... and tell us that those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the FIRST resurrection? John wrote the book of Revelation much later than Paul.... how is it that John wasn't aware?

[@jesusiseverything2174]

Thank you for this study.

[@melbawelson7301]

Thank you for sharing and teaching us. God bless you and your family.

[@Ethel-np4nq]

This is solid teaching indeed about the rapture! ♥️♥️♥️

[@LindoLumauig-sh7tn]

Thank u for this teaching sir,I,be learn a lot,I pray that God will bless you more so that more believers be enlighten by your teachings and alsoote souls to be ushered in the kingdom of God

[@RandyRoth-mo3lz]

If the VERB "raptured" were used to describe someone being "caught up" or "gathered unto Him"... as Scripture shows the ACTION, there wouldn't have any rebuttals. However, the fact that we now have a new terminology (NOUN: rapture) to replace what Paul directly calls the event in 1 Cor 15:42-55, it begs the question on why you need a new term when Scripture shows that the fundamental foundation of our doctrine for eschatology is called "the resurrection of the dead"... Hebrews 6:1,2. If Paul called the event such, and shows that the dead are changed from corruptible to incorruptible at this event, and then REPEATS that fact in vs. 52,53, and includes the living who are changed from mortal to immortal. Paul declared which event he was referring to. This includes both the living and the dead. However, the term rapture removes the focus from the dead...and then redirects it to the living. Jesus, Peter and Paul all warn us about the deception surrounding His return... Matt 24:3,4, 2 Peter 3:15-17, 2 Thess 2;1-3. The art of deception is redirection... as any good magician knows. Paul considered himself a Pharisee of the Pharisees... and he had a issue with the Sadducees who taught that there was no resurrection of the dead... Acts 23:8. The passages in 1 Cor 15:42-55 and 1 Thess 4:13-18 are his rebuttals to that teaching.... he doesn't want us ignorant to what happens to the dead....vs 13.. they return with Christ...vs 14... and get there Earth suits back from the dust where they RISE FIRST out of to be Caught Up together with the living . The blaring fact concerning the resurrection of the dead, is that the physically dead bodies are brought back to life....the spiritual bodies never died... 2 Cor 5:8. The dead now need these physical bodies to rule and reign with Christ for 1000 years on a physical Earth. Paul directly states that these flesh and blood bodies do not go to heaven... 1 Cor 15:40-55..see vs 50. Yet the concept of a rapture is to suggest the opposite of Paul and suggest that everyone goes to heaven for 7 years... in which no Scripture states. The resurrection of the dead and the fabled rapture are concepts that are worlds apart.... Job told us about it.... Job 14:12... it happens when the heavens are destroyed....not 7 years prior..... Matt 24:35-51, 2 Peter 3:10. Those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the 1st resurrection... Rev 20:4-6. The rapturists ignores... and therefore remains ignorant about what happens to the dead.. which is exactly what Paul doesn't want us ignorant about in 1 Thess 4:13-18. If the rapture is the resurrection of the dead, then how do those who are martyred for not taking the mark resurrected at the FIRST resurrection...Rev 20:4-6? If we are told by the rapturists that the early church fathers... students of John... all taught a rapture.... then why did John not know about it... and tell us that those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the FIRST resurrection? John wrote the book of Revelation much later than Paul.... how is it that John wasn't aware?

[@AK-Savedbygrace777]

Beautiful teaching my brother

[@markflowers3126]

Definitely my trusted source understanding the Bible just like Billy Graham God bless you thank you and amen

[@lavozdeclamor745]

Glory to my lord Jesus. Thank God for this man of God. I have prayed to Jesus to reveal me if the raprure was true or not and then Holy Spirit lead me to this teaching. God bless you brother for such encouraging message.

[@marlonjohnson9310]

Thank you pastor. It disturbs me when other Christians on KZbin speak against a pre Tribulation Rapture. I always point them to you and your 40 years of study of Bible prophecy.

[@speakhistruthministry]

Excellent teaching ! I will write these down! Shalom, shalom ..

[@olivedavies7669]

Amen, another wonderful.and enlightening scripture.

[@JoelCortez-ps8ow]

Thanks again tiff

[@feistyterrier]

David Ragan is excellent!

[@carlossampan]

Thank you for the clear explanation about the rapture of the church.I claim &stand the promises of God in Christ Jesus his words in Thess.5:9 &Rev.3:10.I am from Palawan Philippines.

[@squirreljones3595]

Revelation 3 10&11 Matthew 24 9&10 Both sound the same to me It only takes 70 minutes to listen to Revelation John 6 39-54 Jesus says at the Last day four times. Jesus is truth The church rapture is at judgement day Revelation 20 shows two resurrections One is called the first resurrection One is at the Last day Revelation 21 shows no more days Revelation 21 4 God wipes away the Bride's tears Jesus is truth keep the faith

[@brettlinn3063]

The key here is the church of Philadelphia. Not every believer is apart of the church of philadelphia. There are 7 different churches in revelations symbolising 7 different types of believers. only 1 group philadlphia is rescued.

[@user-mh9rs9ti5h]

SIN UNTO DEATH 1JOHN 5;16 AN ENIGMA UNTIL NOW NOT ABIDING IN LOVE WITH ONE ANOTHER. Shalom

[@claritzaechevarria4939]

I love this ❤️

[@AshleyTDaylee]

Was listening to a few earlier wrote down scritures to mark cause the Bible I have is N1rV Holy Bible ... I read certain things were taken out all different ones are reworded, I guess, to help understand, but I need and am going to get The KJV .. I believe vocabulary is important to know the words ... Thanks for explaining..Real actual study! So excited to go get it to mark it in.

[@user-gq8oc1vl6h]

Yes KJV has been tested thru the fire more than any Bible it will keep standing

[@user-gq8oc1vl6h]

Watch for niv they taking 16 versus out they getting rid of mark and changing words around some words don't mean the same this Man Is telling you truth he a Christian and love listening to him

[@jerusalem7576]

I agree with your comments about Dr. David Reagan the Lord directed me to his website in 2011 shortly after I came back from a trip to Israel and I was looking up info on something and from there on watched him faithfully. Godly Man 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

[@elvajaramillo5110]

I've been trying to come to your page, I used to get notifications, but now I haven't gotten it, not even 1 from KZbin ,hoping I can find a resolution 🙏

[@deliahniemandkadoshbride7440]

REAL...TRUE...BIBLE-based teaching ! MARANATHA!

[@daniel9907]

When I first heard him I was taken full attention I knew he was a excellent person

[@jillchandler8532]

David Ragen is still alive and I listen to him often!

[@juliegreenslade7241]

Thankyou so much , I was told it was not biblical, now I know the rapture is biblical, thankyou God bless

[@aldafiedler2180]

Thank you for another amazing teaching of the word of God, brother Tiff ! You've been a trusted voice of the word of God for me and my family, I'm so very grateful for it ! God bless you, your family and the ministry that has blessed so many 🙏 I praise God for blessing us tremendously tru your life and the teachings of the word that He inspired you to give us !

[@prophetbradley5048]

Everyone absolutely loves prophet Bradley U-tube! You will too!!!

[@daveyboy6985]

loved your explanation of scripture , very thourgh and clear. It seams to me most Christians who think believers will go through the tribulation, have a very legalistic veiw of Christianity.( saved more by works than faith.

[@RandyRoth-mo3lz]

If the VERB "raptured" were used to describe someone being "caught up" or "gathered unto Him"... as Scripture shows the ACTION, there wouldn't have any rebuttals. However, the fact that we now have a new terminology (NOUN: rapture) to replace what Paul directly calls the event in 1 Cor 15:42-55, it begs the question on why you need a new term when Scripture shows that the fundamental foundation of our doctrine for eschatology is called "the resurrection of the dead"... Hebrews 6:1,2. If Paul called the event such, and shows that the dead are changed from corruptible to incorruptible at this event, and then REPEATS that fact in vs. 52,53, and includes the living who are changed from mortal to immortal. Paul declared which event he was referring to. This includes both the living and the dead. However, the term rapture removes the focus from the dead...and then redirects it to the living. Jesus, Peter and Paul all warn us about the deception surrounding His return... Matt 24:3,4, 2 Peter 3:15-17, 2 Thess 2;1-3. The art of deception is redirection... as any good magician knows. Paul considered himself a Pharisee of the Pharisees... and he had a issue with the Sadducees who taught that there was no resurrection of the dead... Acts 23:8. The passages in 1 Cor 15:42-55 and 1 Thess 4:13-18 are his rebuttals to that teaching.... he doesn't want us ignorant to what happens to the dead....vs 13.. they return with Christ...vs 14... and get there Earth suits back from the dust where they RISE FIRST out of to be Caught Up together with the living . The blaring fact concerning the resurrection of the dead, is that the physically dead bodies are brought back to life....the spiritual bodies never died... 2 Cor 5:8. The dead now need these physical bodies to rule and reign with Christ for 1000 years on a physical Earth. Paul directly states that these flesh and blood bodies do not go to heaven... 1 Cor 15:40-55..see vs 50. Yet the concept of a rapture is to suggest the opposite of Paul and suggest that everyone goes to heaven for 7 years... in which no Scripture states. The resurrection of the dead and the fabled rapture are concepts that are worlds apart.... Job told us about it.... Job 14:12... it happens when the heavens are destroyed....not 7 years prior..... Matt 24:35-51, 2 Peter 3:10. Those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the 1st resurrection... Rev 20:4-6. The rapturists ignores... and therefore remains ignorant about what happens to the dead.. which is exactly what Paul doesn't want us ignorant about in 1 Thess 4:13-18. If the rapture is the resurrection of the dead, then how do those who are martyred for not taking the mark resurrected at the FIRST resurrection...Rev 20:4-6? If we are told by the rapturists that the early church fathers... students of John... all taught a rapture.... then why did John not know about it... and tell us that those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the FIRST resurrection? John wrote the book of Revelation much later than Paul.... how is it that John wasn't aware?

[@mitchellosmer1293]

quote---loved your explanation of scripture , very thourgh and clear. It seams to me most Christians who think believers will go through the tribulation, have a very legalistic veiw of Christianity.( saved more by works than faith.--unquote Then apparently the Bible is a lie? Matthew 24:37-39 NKJV - But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating ... Who was taken???? The WICKED!!!! Who was left behind?? Noah and his family----They went THROUGH the Flood!! The wicked were taken away--KILLED!!! >>>>Luke 17:28-37 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot. AGAIN: Who was left behind?? Lot and his family!@!! Who was taken?? The WICKED !! Lot and his family went through the destruction---Not from it. >>>>

[@daveyboy6985]

@@mitchellosmer1293 very sarcastic reply. And very wrong interpretation of scripture

[@mitchellosmer1293]

@@daveyboy6985 quote---very sarcastic reply.--unquote Oh, did I hurt your feelings?? >> quote---And very wrong interpretation of scripture--unquote And THAT is an OPINION which NO ONE cares about!!!

[@daveyboy6985]

@@mitchellosmer1293 and that is your opinion, which is wrong. And no you didn't hurt my feelings, I'm just surprised a so called Christian like yourself can respond with sarcasm. But if you believe the left behind are the righteous, ive got nothing else to say.

[@lauranell2978]

He’s a Kohen from Israel and is so welcoming to take questions?

[@elainestewart8904]

You.are Deffinatly a trusted voice in my life thank you kindly blessings pastor tiff ❤

[@HeyTommyMain]

Here here

[@prophetbradley5048]

You will love my videos on prophet Bradley U-tube

[@prophetbradley5048]

Prophet Bradley U-tube!

[@phuakiangee8626]

1 Thess 4:16,17...talk about the caught up of believers ..

[@tetdizon7559]

I believe in the rapture. I'm praying Jesus comes soon and take us to His kingdom🙏🙏🙏

[@mitchellosmer1293]

quote---I believe in the rapture. I'm praying Jesus comes soon and take us to His kingdom--unquote Not before the tribulations

[@user-vl2vm8ev6w]

The Lord Christ with completely disagree with you and literally says so plainly in the bible. You really need to study

[@the7tongardengnome]

My number one prayer is that the Rapture occurs while my mum and dad are still alive, happy and healthy. They are 76 and 80 years old.

[@doloresmarie4517]

Is that I make it to heaven

[@user-mh9rs9ti5h]

ISAIAH 24;23 TELLS US THAT THE KINGDOM COMES ON THE FULL MOON, 144,000 RIDERS ON WHITE HORSES, ZECHARIAH 9;13-17 EXPLAINS WHY THE RIDERS ON THE WHITE HORSE IN REVELATION HAVE NO NEED FOR ANY ARROWS, JUDA IS MY BOW AND EPHRAIM IS FITTED WITH THE BOW. JACOB'S SON'S WITH JOSEPH'S SON'S COMES WITH THE LORD. DAY AFTER THE FULL MOON IS FEAST OF TABERNACLES, 29-30 SEPTEMBER. EAGLE PROPHET TRIBE OF SIMEON SIN UNTO DEATH 1JOHN 5;16 AN ENIGMA UNTIL NOW IS NOT ABIDING IN LOVE WITH ONE ANOTHER OR WE HAVE NO RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST 1JOHN 4. SHALOM

[@RandyRoth-mo3lz]

Tiff... I like that you state your narrative with Peter which shows that you don't reject his teaching as many dispensationalists do. However 2 Peter destroys any notion of a rapture.... consider verses 3,4 which tell us that there will be mockers and scoffers who SCOFF: "where is the promise of His coming..." Being that the promise for a rapturist is always futuristic up until the time that the mark is mandatory... That scoff cannot occur until after the 'promise" is no longer valid. The mandatory mark is what makes that supposed promise expire so that the mock could commence. When someone is asked where Scripture provides "the promise of His coming" prior to the mark. those who believe there is a promise are required to give answer for the hope that is in them both in season or out to where that promise exists. However, because no such promise exists, and Christ directly states the opposite... Matt 24:29-31, those who believe in such a promise cannot give answer, but instead accuse those who ask them a simple question of being the mockers and scoffers that Peter predicted. Thus attempting to make the guy who asks them a simple question that Scripture requires them to give answer to... the bad guy. Peter then continues to destroy the rapture idea in verse 10 where he quotes Christ... Matt 24:35-51, who quotes Job 14:12. Here he tells us that Christ comes like a thief in the night when the heavens are destroyed with a great noise.... Christ can only come "like a thief" once... if there were multiple returns... He would have to come with the first return... and not 7 years later when the heavens are destroyed. Jesus and Job both inform us that the resurrection of the dead does not occur until the heavens are destroyed. Paul calls the event "the resurrection of the dead"... 1 Cor 15:42-55... which he show to include the living... and he doesn't want us ignorant to what happens to the dead n 1 Thess 4;13-18. The resurrection the dead... although it includes the living... keeps the focus on the dead... whereas the new term "rapture" redirects the focus to the living. The important fact that the dead get resurrected and what happens to them is what must be rejected to teach a rapture. Paul goes to great lengths in these passages to help us understand that the dead return with Christ.. 1 Thess 4:14 and get their terrestrial bodies... 1 Cor 15:40-55 resurrected... the RISE FIRST from the Earth.... so that they can now rule and reign on a physical Earth and not be ghosts or disembodied spirits. The fact that is lost with the rapture ideal is that the dead became absent from their physical body and present with the Lord when the died... 2 Cor 5:8... and that these Earth suits are now needed again... the term "glorified body"... is just another term of deception that has to be conjured by the rapturists along with "rapture", "second coming", "tribulation saints", "fig tree generation", "church age", etc... so that redirectly can rule. Without these unbiblical terms... the rapturist cannot present. Peter then continues in verses 15-17 to inform us that men twist Paul's teaching on this matter as they do all of Scripture, and then he calls them "wicked" and tells us not to fall from our own steadfastness. Why does Peter pinpoint Paul's teaching as the beginnings of twisting... and not Christ's or his own, or John's? What view is offered from the foundations of Paul? Which teachings does the term "rapture" originate? If Paul directly calls the event "the resurrection of the dead" in 1 Cor 15:42-55... why are we told that Paul revealed this new "mystery" of a rapture... referencing verse 51,52... when the mystery that Paul revealed was how people are CHANGED at the event he directly called "the resurrection of the dead"? Why do we all of a sudden need a new term, when Scripture already has a name for it?

[@daniel9907]

I also noticed that ovation guitar hanging. I bet he can play n sing

[@TheAlfland]

I personally can not wait for the Rapture... it can't happen soon enough. I just feel like an outcast in this world... and that I don't belong. What breaks my heart the most is, I have an older sister, who was an Army Chaplain Lt. Col... now retired... that changed her view on when the Rapture takes place. She is now a post Trib. Believer.🤦‍♀️🙄

[@prophetbradley5048]

You will love my videos on prophet Bradley U-tube

[@Michael_the_Servant]

Why does it break your heart? Have you thought that maybe it is you that may be incorrect? Eschatology is so important to understand so much of the rest of the Bible, but it isn’t a salvation issue, it’s like additional reading. The man who Baptized me taught me that you don’t divide over eschatology, and we should all be Pan-Trib...however it Pans out we’ll be fine, just don’t stop believing in Christ, because we’ll all get to the same place. I find that >95% of people don’t properly use the terms Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib, Post-Trib, and God’s Wrath correctly, so by default people’s eschatology is messed up. Also most people don’t believe in my view, but that doesn’t mean any of us are any more/less a Brother or Sister in Christ. By the way, my understanding is for a Rapture at Revelation 16:15, but I have met only a handful of people that agree with this understanding, but when I share the entire extent of my understanding of Revelation with others, they are amazed, because I use only the scriptures in the Bible and the Book of Enoch to explain what John wrote. Call your sister and schedule a loving sit down to study together. I’ve learned the most when studying with people who didn’t see what God was showing me.

[@prophetbradley5048]

@@Michael_the_Servant If you like prophecy, you will absolutely love my videos on prophet Bradley U-tube. I am a Jewish Levite prophet of God Almighty. I have not been wrong yet and you will learn more in hours than you have in your life! I PROMISE YOU!🦊🔥🌈🕛😎

[@mjuberian]

but it is not going to happen

[@user-mh9rs9ti5h]

ISAIAH 24;23 THE FULL MOON WILL BE EMBARRASSED AND THE SUN ASHAMED, FOR THE LORD OF HOST RIEGNS IN ZION AND IN JERUSALEM AND THE GLORY WILL SHINE BEFORE THE ELDERS. Day after the Full Moon is TABERNACLES. EAGLE PROPHET TRIBE OF SIMEON 29-30 SEPTEMBER

[@deepuckrughoobur632]

REPENT PRAYER JESUS FORGIVE ME AND WASH ME BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS AND WRITE MY NAME BOOK OF LIFE,

[@user-mh9rs9ti5h]

AMEN, SIN UNTO DEATH 1JOHN 5;16 NOT ABIDING IN LOVE WITH ONE ANOTHER, AN ENIGMA UNTIL NOW.

[@wrightouch3]

Hi Tiff. How's Biscuit?

[@janenmarianne3978]

🙏❤

[@kathymoore1571]

I know the bible tells us what kind of people not to be around. What if it's your daughter . She lives with me. She is in her late thirty's. Her little daughter lives with me also. She is very mean to us. Cusses gods name and has evil ways. I have prayed and prayed for her. 😢

[@BeHarpazoReady]

Yaaaaas let's go

[@kimberlydelisle2326]

❤

[@angloaust1575]

If one accepts that the marriage supper precedes the second Coming then a rapture would Occur to take up the saints To attend it!

[@RandyRoth-mo3lz]

Yeah... but it doesn't Jesus show differently... Matt 22:2-14

[@angloaust1575]

Revelation describes the marriage supper Matthew22 seems to be Something different!

[@RandyRoth-mo3lz]

@@angloaust1575 If the VERB "raptured" were used to describe someone being "caught up" or "gathered unto Him"... as Scripture shows the ACTION, there wouldn't have any rebuttals. However, the fact that we now have a new terminology (NOUN: rapture) to replace what Paul directly calls the event in 1 Cor 15:42-55, it begs the question on why you need a new term when Scripture shows that the fundamental foundation of our doctrine for eschatology is called "the resurrection of the dead"... Hebrews 6:1,2. If Paul called the event such, and shows that the dead are changed from corruptible to incorruptible at this event, and then REPEATS that fact in vs. 52,53, and includes the living who are changed from mortal to immortal. Paul declared which event he was referring to. This includes both the living and the dead. However, the term rapture removes the focus from the dead...and then redirects it to the living. Jesus, Peter and Paul all warn us about the deception surrounding His return... Matt 24:3,4, 2 Peter 3:15-17, 2 Thess 2;1-3. The art of deception is redirection... as any good magician knows. Paul considered himself a Pharisee of the Pharisees... and he had a issue with the Sadducees who taught that there was no resurrection of the dead... Acts 23:8. The passages in 1 Cor 15:42-55 and 1 Thess 4:13-18 are his rebuttals to that teaching.... he doesn't want us ignorant to what happens to the dead....vs 13.. they return with Christ...vs 14... and get there Earth suits back from the dust where they RISE FIRST out of to be Caught Up together with the living . The blaring fact concerning the resurrection of the dead, is that the physically dead bodies are brought back to life....the spiritual bodies never died... 2 Cor 5:8. The dead now need these physical bodies to rule and reign with Christ for 1000 years on a physical Earth. Paul directly states that these flesh and blood bodies do not go to heaven... 1 Cor 15:40-55..see vs 50. Yet the concept of a rapture is to suggest the opposite of Paul and suggest that everyone goes to heaven for 7 years... in which no Scripture states. The resurrection of the dead and the fabled rapture are concepts that are worlds apart.... Job told us about it.... Job 14:12... it happens when the heavens are destroyed....not 7 years prior..... Matt 24:35-51, 2 Peter 3:10. Those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the 1st resurrection... Rev 20:4-6. The rapturists ignores... and therefore remains ignorant about what happens to the dead.. which is exactly what Paul doesn't want us ignorant about in 1 Thess 4:13-18. If the rapture is the resurrection of the dead, then how do those who are martyred for not taking the mark resurrected at the FIRST resurrection...Rev 20:4-6? If we are told by the rapturists that the early church fathers... students of John... all taught a rapture.... then why did John not know about it... and tell us that those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the FIRST resurrection? John wrote the book of Revelation much later than Paul.... how is it that John wasn't aware?

[@Dbusdriver71]

Depends on how you interpret Scripture. But IF you name doesn't appear in the Lambs Book of Life than whether the Rapture is true or not is not any of your concern.

[@10rcoleman]

What Bible is he reading from?

[@lauranell2978]

Have you talk to Rabbi Tovia Singer ?

[@doloresmarie4517]

Watching him and listening to him makes me wonder if I'm gonna make it to heaven I'm born again,I start seeing more and more of my life doing bad instead of doing good 😢

[@stacydemontagnac5948]

Dont you worry about that. As long asbyouve accepted Christ as your saviour youre sealed. As you become 1 with God you will cringe at your old ways. Ask Him to fill you with knowledge and provision to grow in Him. See you soon!

[@rebeccaxodonq7893]

My humble request please listen pastor mark Finley he is godly man n true genuine God servant.

[@donnieshepperson126]

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

[@judithmccowan75]

Could you do a training geared to Jewish people about the reality that Jesus Christ IS their Messiah? I have met many Ukrainian Jews and would love to have something to give them to help bridge the gap between the Torah and Scripture. I met you when I attended Faith School in 1983-5. You are even better today!

[@fredlemani]

Am still following your teaching from here Malawi Africa. Rapture is biblical and those who are truly born again can see it in bible led by holy spirit. I have been debating with some SDAs elders than me and helped by holy spirit i always defeat them. Is there any one who can challenge me by saying that rapture is unbiblical?

[@Michael_the_Servant]

I won’t challenge you that the Rapture is unbiblical, because it is biblical, and I only take the side of the Truth. However, if you are seeking a challenge, I’ll challenge to when it happens. 😀

[@DancerOfClouds]

Any day of the week. But God bless you for seeking the truth, sadly you have not found it.

[@fredlemani]

@@DancerOfClouds kkkkkk 😂😂😂😂 am saved brother i can't be in SDA because is one of the clubs not a church. A church believes in rapture as it is written in the bible but the clubs doesn't believe in the rapture

[@fredlemani]

@@Michael_the_Servant kkkkkk kkkkkk 😂😂😂 my brother kkkkk 😂😂🤣🤣🤣 . But to answer you, no man knows when or which day shall son of man cometh.

[@Michael_the_Servant]

@@fredlemani, what about Jesus? Does he know? Do not the scriptures state Jesus knows all things? I contest that the “no man knows the day or the hour.” is an idiomatic phrase used to describe the Feast of Trumpets, as in the day of Jesus it was the only Feast Day that the people did not know when it would happen. The feast day could be delayed by weather and sky dependent views, unlike today when they just use computers to calculate, but I expect God to use the old ways. As for the Rapture, it happens in Revelation 16:15. My Brother, you speak true, we do not know, but we’ll know the time is close, just like the Essenes knew it was close to the arrival of the Messiah and left to go in the desert.

[@donhaddix3770]

Earlier it was stated that in His promise in John 14, Jesus drew an analogy from Jewish marriage customs inbiblical times. Now that the marriage customs have been considered, it is essential that the analogy be examined. In what ways was Jesus' promise analogous with Jewish marriage customs? In the examination of the analogy the first thing that should be noted is the fact that the Scriptures regard the Church to be the Bride of Christ (Eph. 5:22-23). In addition, just as the Jewish bridegroom took the initiative in marriage by leaving his father's house and traveling to the home of the prospective bride, so Jesus left his Father's house in heaven and traveled to earth, the home of His prospective Church, over 1900 years ago. In the same manner as the Jewish bridegroom came to the bride's home for the purpose of obtaining her through the establishment of a marriage covenant, so Jesus came to earth for the purpose of obtaining the Church through the establishment of a covenant. On the same night in which Jesus made His promise in John 14 He instituted communion. As He passed the cup of wine to His disciples, He said: "This cup is the new covenant in my blood." (NASV, 1 Cor. 11:25). This was His way of saying that He would establish a new covenant through the shedding of His blood on the cross. Parallel to the custom of the Jewish groom paying a price to purchase his bride, Jesus paid a price to purchase His Bride, the Church. The price that He paid was His own life blood. It was because of this purchase price that Paul wrote the following to members of the Church: "do you not know... that you are not your own? For you have been bought with a price; therefore glorify God in your body". (NASV, 1 Cor. 6:19-20). Analogous with the Jewish bride being declared to be sanctified or set apart exclusively for her groom once te marriage covenant was established, the Church has been declared to be sanctified or set apart exclusively for Christ (Eph. 5:25-27; 1 Cor. 1:2, 6:11; Heb. 10:10; 13:12). In the same way that a cup of wine served as a symbol of marriage covenant through which the Jewish groom obtained his bride, so the cup of communion serves as the symbol of the covenant through which Christ has obtained the Church (1 Cor. 11:25). Just as the Jewish groom left the home of his bride and returned to his father's house after the marriage covenant had been established, so Jesus returned to His Father's house in heaven after He had established the new covenant and risen from the dead (John 6:62; 20:17). In correspondence with the period of separation between the Jewish groom and bride, Christ has remained separate from the Church for over 1900 years. The Church is now living in that period of separation. Parallel to the custom of the Jewish groom preparing living accommodations for his bride in his father's house during the time of separation, Christ has been preparing living accommodations for the Church in His Father's house in heaven during His separation from His Bride (John 14:20). In the same manner as the Jewish groom came to take his bride to live with him at the end of the period of separation, so Christ will come to take the Church to live with Him at the end of His period of separation from the Church (John 14:3). Just as the taking of the Jewish bride was accomplished by a procession of the groom and male escorts from the groom's father's house to the home of the bride, so the taking of the Church will be accomplished by a procession of Christ and an angelic escort from Christ's Father's house in heaven to the home of the Church (1 Thess. 4:16). Analogous with the Jewish bride not knowing the exact time of the groom's coming for her the Church does not know the exact time of Christ's coming for her. In the same way that the Jewish groom's arrival was preceded by a shout, so Christ's arrival to take the Church will be preceded by a shout (1 Thess. 4:16). Similar to the Jewish bride's return with the groom to his father' house after her departure from her home, the Church will return with Christ to His Father's house in heaven after she is snatched from the earth to meet Him in the air (1 Thess. 4:17; John 14:2-3). In the same manner as the Jewish wedding party found wedding guests assembled in the groom's father's house when they arrived, so Christ and the Church will find the souls of old Testament saints assembled in heaven when they arrive. These souls will serve as the wedding guests. Parallel to the custom of the Jewish groom and bride entering into physical union after their arrival at the groom's father's house, thereby consummating the marriage that had been covenanted earlier, Christ and the Church will experience spiritual union after their arrival at His Father's house in heaven, thereby consummating their relationship that had been covenanted earlier. In correspondence with the Jewish bride remaining hidden in the bridal chamber for a period of seven days after arrival at the groom's father's house, the Church will remain hidden for a period of seven after arrival at Christ's Father's house in heaven. While the seven year Tribulation Period is taking place on the earth, the Church will be in heaven totally hidden from the sight of those living on the earth. Just as the Jewish groom brought his bride out of the bridal chamber at the conclusion of the seven days with her veil removed, so that all could see who his bride was, so Christ will bring the Church out of heaven in His Second Coming at the conclusion of the seven year Tribulation Period in full view of all who are alive, so that all can see who the true Church is (Col. 3:4). Written by, Dr. Renald Showers, Chairman of the Pastoral Studies Dept. Philadelphia College of Bible (year unknown) Distributed by, The Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry, Inc., W. Collingswood, N.J. "Therefore, be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming. Matt 24:42 For this reason you be ready too; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will!

[@daniel9907]

Cause the truth is hard yet nessercary

[@marygenovese9814]

I have a question about those saints who are in the graves being raptured with the believers. Don’t believers automatically go with Jesus when we die to live with him forever? Thank you

[@GIWY25]

No when you die, you sleep. The resurrection is that of the dead. The rapture is that of those alive. It’s still considered the first fruit harvest.

[@eyesup4568]

‭II Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord. Your soul goes to heaven to be with Christ. Your body will be raised new at the rapture.

[@charlieward5476]

The Bible says everyone dies as a consequence of sin but if you are raptured you don’t die so how do they physically die? Elijah and Enoch, were raptured but they return to be killed as the two witnesses so how do those raptured die their physical death promised in the Bible?

[@Michael_the_Servant]

“Returned” not “return,” as their return already happened. Those who will be Raptured will have already died, as they have died in Baptism and thus they will be living without the tie to sin as they take claim of the debt becoming paid for by Jesus’s death.

[@user-mh9rs9ti5h]

THERE IS A GENERATION THAT WILL NOT EXPERIENCE DEATH.

[@rebeccaxodonq7893]

Brethren, please listen pastor mark Finley he is godly man n true genuine servant of God he study well bible and God character..

[@RandyRoth-mo3lz]

Tiff... It seems like you are misrepresenting the CONCEPT of the rapture as well as the term. First we need to defne what that concept is, because it is not a stand alone term as you present. The same time "rapture" was first introduced as a name for an event to describe a return of Christ... a secondary unbiblical term was also introduced.... that is "second coming' or "second advent". Prior to Darby, history shows that "rapture" circa 1600, was used to show a state of ecstasy at a performance, or someone getting kidnapped and raped, however it had yet to be used as a name to describe the event of Christ's return until Darby. If the VERB "raptured" were used to describe someone being "caught up" or "gathered unto Him"... as Scripture shows the ACTION, you wouldn't have any rebuttals. However, the fact that you now have a new terminology (NOUN: rapture) to replace what Paul directly calls the event in 1 Cor 15:42-55, it begs the question on why you need a new term when Scripture shows that the fundamental foundation of our doctrine for eschatology is called "the resurrection of the dead"... Hebrews 6:1,2. If Paul called the event such, and shows that the dead are changed from corruptible to incorruptible at this event, and then REPEATS that fact in vs. 52,53, and includes the living who are changed from mortal to immortal. Paul declared which event he was referring to. This includes both the living and the dead. However, the term rapture removes the focus from the dead...and then redirects it to the living. Jesus, Peter and Paul all warn us about the deception surrounding His return... Matt 24:3,4, 2 Peter 3:15-17, 2 Thess 2;1-3. The art of deception is redirection... as any good magician knows. Paul considered himself a Pharisee of the Pharisees... and he had a issue with the Sadducees who taught that there was no resurrection of the dead... Acts 23:8. The passages in 1 Cor 15:42-55 and 1 Thess 4:13-18 are his rebuttals to that teaching.... he doesn't want us ignorant to what happens to the dead....vs 13.. they return with Christ...vs 14... and get there Earth suits back from the dust where they RISE FIRST out of to be Caught Up together with the living . The blaring fact concerning the resurrection of the dead, is that the physically dead bodies are brought back to life....the spiritual bodies never died... 2 Cor 5:8. The dead now need these physical bodies to rule and reign with Christ for 1000 years on a physical Earth. Paul directly states that these flesh and blood bodies do not go to heaven... 1 Cor 15:40-55..see vs 50. Yet the concept of a rapture is to suggest the opposite of Paul and suggest that everyone goes to heaven for 7 years... in which no Scripture states. The resurrection of the dead and the rapture are concepts that are worlds apart.... Job told us about it.... Job 14:12... it happens when the heavens are destroyed....not 7 years prior..... Matt 24:35-51, 2 Peter 3:10. Those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the 1st resurrection... Rev 20:4-6. The rapturists ignores... and therefore remains ignorant about what happens to the dead.. which is exactly what Paul doesn't want us ignorant about in 1 Thess 4:13-18. If the rapture is the resurrection of the dead, then how do those who are martyred for not taking the mark resurrected at the FIRST resurrection...Rev 20:4-6? If we are told by the rapturists that the early church fathers... students of John... all taught a rapture.... then why did John not know about it... and tell us that those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the FIRST resurrection? John wrote the book of Revelation much later than Paul.... how is it that John wasn't aware?

[@silviahan]

ALELUIAAAAAAA🫶🏻🫶🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💛💛 thats the true because GOD IS MERCE WHO IS MERCe!! This is the caracter of my FATHER!!!✨✨✨🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Holy Spirit told me like Lo was salved, you Will tooo before the Tribulation!💗💗💗

[@ernestwaldeck6186]

Would animals be raptured to

[@glendabenefield1078]

Jesus said he would return and gather the church AFTER the tribulation.

[@michelleg3773]

He sure did

[@GIWY25]

Wrong ! This is his 2nd coming to keep humans from being completely dismantled from this earth! Than will Yeshua government take over for 1000 years ! Please, I don’t want either of you left behind prior to tribulation starting.

[@yarideborah2791]

Pls,like like like

[@RandyRoth-mo3lz]

If the VERB "raptured" were used to describe someone being "caught up" or "gathered unto Him"... as Scripture shows the ACTION, there wouldn't have any rebuttals. However, the fact that we now have a new terminology (NOUN: rapture) to replace what Paul directly calls the event in 1 Cor 15:42-55, it begs the question on why you need a new term when Scripture shows that the fundamental foundation of our doctrine for eschatology is called "the resurrection of the dead"... Hebrews 6:1,2. If Paul called the event such, and shows that the dead are changed from corruptible to incorruptible at this event, and then REPEATS that fact in vs. 52,53, and includes the living who are changed from mortal to immortal. Paul declared which event he was referring to. This includes both the living and the dead. However, the term rapture removes the focus from the dead...and then redirects it to the living. Jesus, Peter and Paul all warn us about the deception surrounding His return... Matt 24:3,4, 2 Peter 3:15-17, 2 Thess 2;1-3. The art of deception is redirection... as any good magician knows. Paul considered himself a Pharisee of the Pharisees... and he had a issue with the Sadducees who taught that there was no resurrection of the dead... Acts 23:8. The passages in 1 Cor 15:42-55 and 1 Thess 4:13-18 are his rebuttals to that teaching.... he doesn't want us ignorant to what happens to the dead....vs 13.. they return with Christ...vs 14... and get there Earth suits back from the dust where they RISE FIRST out of to be Caught Up together with the living . The blaring fact concerning the resurrection of the dead, is that the physically dead bodies are brought back to life....the spiritual bodies never died... 2 Cor 5:8. The dead now need these physical bodies to rule and reign with Christ for 1000 years on a physical Earth. Paul directly states that these flesh and blood bodies do not go to heaven... 1 Cor 15:40-55..see vs 50. Yet the concept of a rapture is to suggest the opposite of Paul and suggest that everyone goes to heaven for 7 years... in which no Scripture states. The resurrection of the dead and the fabled rapture are concepts that are worlds apart.... Job told us about it.... Job 14:12... it happens when the heavens are destroyed....not 7 years prior..... Matt 24:35-51, 2 Peter 3:10. Those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the 1st resurrection... Rev 20:4-6. The rapturists ignores... and therefore remains ignorant about what happens to the dead.. which is exactly what Paul doesn't want us ignorant about in 1 Thess 4:13-18. If the rapture is the resurrection of the dead, then how do those who are martyred for not taking the mark resurrected at the FIRST resurrection...Rev 20:4-6? If we are told by the rapturists that the early church fathers... students of John... all taught a rapture.... then why did John not know about it... and tell us that those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the FIRST resurrection? John wrote the book of Revelation much later than Paul.... how is it that John wasn't aware?

[@rasheawhite3644]

How can you even ask such a thing? The rapture is just another synonym for the resurrection. Oh my God.👀🤦‍♀️ 1Corinthians 15

[@dorotheefilion7186]

Will the unsaved know that the church was raptured? Or they will think these people are simply dead when they find the earth bodies?

[@GIWY25]

They will know immediately what has happened, that’s why it’s called Yeshua capturing these like a thief. At this time and age it’s not a lot of excuses to be made as to why we can’t do right. They will know almost immediately (what others or whoever they heard such and such from) told them and realize we been left behind. Many will cry but the door was closed, many will get it right after the door is closed 😢 Edit- many will get it together right after the door was closed, but they are now subject to tribulation and will become saints some almost instantly after the door is shut! Grieves my heart I don’t want anybody left behind 😢

[@lizbotica2965]

Bodies will not be found. The dead will rise first and we will get changed in the twinkling of an eye and our bodies will be glorified, we will have bodies lkke thatvof Jesus.

[@aussierob7177]

There is only one resurrection of the dead. There is only one Second Cumming, not two. If Paul is in First Thessalonians 4 :15-17 talking about being caught up with the Lord in the air, the coming of the Lord, if he is saying that's going to happen at the time of the resurrection of the dead, and according to First Corinthians 15: 22-24, he tells us that the resurrection happens at the end of time, well then it follows that in First Thessalonians 4 : 15-17, what is he talking about ? He is talking about the coming of the Lord at the end of time. The Church will receive its perfection only in the glory of heaven, at the time of Christ's glorious return. Until that day the Church progresses on her pilgrimage amidst this world's persecutions and God's consolations. Here below she knows that she is in exile far from the Lord and longs for the full coming of the Kingdom, when she will be united in Glory with her King. The Church, and through her the world, will not be perfected in glory, without great trials. Only then will all the just from the time of Adam, from Abel, the just one`, to the last of the elect, will be gathered together in the Universal Church in the Father's presence.

[@humblewatchman1673]

Tiff, you’re a great Bible teacher, and I love your Bible studies (have been subscribed for awhile) - but I need to understand this exegesis for a pretrib rapture better. Jesus did point out the days of Noah, and the days of Lot as typology; however, there’s a 50/50 split at best in terms of what exactly the type was referencing - be it being pulled out of calamity before things get bad (pretrib) or immediately preceding the wrath (prewrath). The biggest problem though is that Jesus referenced the way those living in darkness were caught off guard by the wrath. 1 Thes 4 - there’s no imperative present in the text that differentiates the 2nd Coming and the rapture. You added that part. Meeting Jesus in the clouds on His way down to the earth is just as much present in this passage as what you are suggesting. 1 Cor 15 - last trumpet makes this passage difficult for a pretrib position. And yes, this speaks of the details of the rapture, but there’s no mention of timing other than the “last trumpet” The word ‘church’ not being present in Revelation poses quite the problem with the millennial reign and wedding feast if we apply the logic that supports pretrib….the same logic would say the church must not be present for either of these tremendous events, because the word isn’t used. When is wrath actually poured out in Revelation? We see judgment until the bowls of wrath, which are unleashed with the last trumpet. Rev 3:10 - simple textual analysis presents a very different meaning of this verse. If we leave rapture out of the text, and just let it read as written, we could just as easily conclude being kept from the hour of trial is the equivalency of keeping one from harm - and Jesus of course spoke of eternal harm, not temporary physical harm. If I brought a guest into my dangerous inner city neighborhood, I could comfort them by saying, “Don’t worry. I’ll keep you from harm.” The comfort spoken of by Paul doesn’t rest upon physical comfort. How do we suppose brothers and sisters experiencing immense life-threatening persecution in China, Middle East, and North Africa comfort each today? How did the early church comfort each other as they were being fed to lions? The blessed hope goes well beyond physicality, and reaches straight through the veil of eternity to grab hold of the Master’s feet, knowing He’ll return to restore all of creation at the appointed time. Why didn’t you cover 2 Thes 2? The argument of the identity of the restrainer is usually articulated in support of pretrib, but of course 2 Thes 1 and 2 Thes 2 are clearly speaking of the Day of the Lord.

[@Michael_the_Servant]

@Humblewatchman1673 , you are very much on to the Truth. The Rapture take place prior to the wrath of God being poured out. Look at the 6th Vial/Bowl…Revelation 16:15. That is the moment of the Rapture. Now, we’ve already passed the 5th Vial/Bowl, so the time is almost upon us, and we are already in tribulation, the tribulation that followed the great tribulation which has already passed. The word “Church” not being used in the vision of Revelation, is not because they are not there, it is because John is conveying a more important (larger) picture. Like how the Jews couldn’t imagine anything other than Israel being followers of God, the Church now can’t imagine anything other than the Church as being called the organized followers of God. The Church is absolutely described between the chapters of 4-16.

[@RandyRoth-mo3lz]

If the VERB "raptured" were used to describe someone being "caught up" or "gathered unto Him"... as Scripture shows the ACTION, there wouldn't have any rebuttals. However, the fact that we now have a new terminology (NOUN: rapture) to replace what Paul directly calls the event in 1 Cor 15:42-55, it begs the question on why you need a new term when Scripture shows that the fundamental foundation of our doctrine for eschatology is called "the resurrection of the dead"... Hebrews 6:1,2. If Paul called the event such, and shows that the dead are changed from corruptible to incorruptible at this event, and then REPEATS that fact in vs. 52,53, and includes the living who are changed from mortal to immortal. Paul declared which event he was referring to. This includes both the living and the dead. However, the term rapture removes the focus from the dead...and then redirects it to the living. Jesus, Peter and Paul all warn us about the deception surrounding His return... Matt 24:3,4, 2 Peter 3:15-17, 2 Thess 2;1-3. The art of deception is redirection... as any good magician knows. Paul considered himself a Pharisee of the Pharisees... and he had a issue with the Sadducees who taught that there was no resurrection of the dead... Acts 23:8. The passages in 1 Cor 15:42-55 and 1 Thess 4:13-18 are his rebuttals to that teaching.... he doesn't want us ignorant to what happens to the dead....vs 13.. they return with Christ...vs 14... and get there Earth suits back from the dust where they RISE FIRST out of to be Caught Up together with the living . The blaring fact concerning the resurrection of the dead, is that the physically dead bodies are brought back to life....the spiritual bodies never died... 2 Cor 5:8. The dead now need these physical bodies to rule and reign with Christ for 1000 years on a physical Earth. Paul directly states that these flesh and blood bodies do not go to heaven... 1 Cor 15:40-55..see vs 50. Yet the concept of a rapture is to suggest the opposite of Paul and suggest that everyone goes to heaven for 7 years... in which no Scripture states. The resurrection of the dead and the fabled rapture are concepts that are worlds apart.... Job told us about it.... Job 14:12... it happens when the heavens are destroyed....not 7 years prior..... Matt 24:35-51, 2 Peter 3:10. Those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the 1st resurrection... Rev 20:4-6. The rapturists ignores... and therefore remains ignorant about what happens to the dead.. which is exactly what Paul doesn't want us ignorant about in 1 Thess 4:13-18. If the rapture is the resurrection of the dead, then how do those who are martyred for not taking the mark resurrected at the FIRST resurrection...Rev 20:4-6? If we are told by the rapturists that the early church fathers... students of John... all taught a rapture.... then why did John not know about it... and tell us that those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the FIRST resurrection? John wrote the book of Revelation much later than Paul.... how is it that John wasn't aware?

[@Michael_the_Servant]

@@RandyRoth-mo3lz, John was very much aware of it. He placed it in the Book of Revelation right where it happens, just before the end where the wrath is poured out upon unbelievers. Look at Revelation 16:15. Yep, Rapture event right before the stoning of unrepentant non-believers. Very few dispute the resurrection of the dead, but those alive don’t resurrect, we change, thus those of us talking about the coming event talk about what will happen to those of us still alive, not the dead. By the Way, did you know that the dead have already been raised, and were the 144,000? You can find this reference in Leviticus 23 and Matthew 27. Do you want the exact verses?

[@humblewatchman1673]

@Dd-uk6tm Appreciate the response and always love dialogue on such an important topic. None of the verses you shared are addressing the issues I presented though. 2 Tim 2:17-18 is such a good reminder of just how important it is that we get this conversation right, less we risk the faith of some being destroyed. Such a weighty responsibility to dig into Scripture for an accurate understanding of the resurrection.

[@RandyRoth-mo3lz]

@@humblewatchman1673 The very first point you make concerning the "days of Noah" shows the context and the foundation of the comment responded to you.... Why do you say you "love dialogue" and then respond in such a manner that rejects dialogue concerning your primary passage that you present.... Indeed the comment to you addresses the passage Matt 24:35-51... When you take parts out of context... such as the "days of Noah" then indeed people can make up whatsoever they wish...

[@stevenpaulk8788]

Brother tiff, I've got a question. If the church will be raptured before Christ comes back when and how will we get our glorified bodies? I always assumed we would be caught up after the dead and we would meet Christ in the air and that's when we would get them. So if we get caught up before he returns when and how will we get them. Please explain please. Thank you.

[@mitchellosmer1293]

Luke 17:28-37 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot. Who was taken away?? The wicked!! Who was left behind?? Lot and His family.. >>Matthew 24:37-39 NKJV - But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating ... Who was taken (killed) away?? The wicked!! Who was left behind?? Noah and His family.. ---(10) Revelation 8:7. The first trumpet judgment results in one-third of all trees and green grass being burned up by hail, fire, and blood cast upon the earth. -----(11) Revelation 8:8-9. The second trumpet sees a great mountain of sulfur falling into the sea and destroying a third-part of the sea and all living creatures in it and a third of the shipping vessels. Think of The Poseidon Adventure multiplied times one-third of all the world’s ships! (12) Revelation 8:10-11. The third trumpet causes a great star (or meteor) called Wormword (or “bitter”) to fall on the fountains of water and third of rivers to turn bitter, resulting in the deaths of millions. (13) Revelation 8:12. The fourth trumpet results in one-third less sun, moonlight, and stars, extending the darkness of night .(14) Revelation 8:13. A special angel flies around the earth, warning that worse judgments are to come. (15) Revelation 9:1-12. The fifth trumpet introduces hideous demon-like creatures such as scorpions and locusts out of the bottomless pit. Not able to kill men, they torture them so badly that they “will seek death and will not find it.” (16) Revelation 9:13. The sixth trumpet introduces two hundred million horsemen (demon spirit-like death angels), who kill one-third of the people. This will occur between the fortieth and forty-second month of the first part of the Tribulation, which brings to 50 percent the population that is destroyed by God before the midpoint of the Tribulation. These individuals have taken the mark of the Beast and are considered incorrigibles. Since estimates of upwards of a quarter of those living at that time still be saved under the preaching of the 144,000 mentioned in Revelation 7:9, it is possible that 75 percent of the population 25 percent by martyrdom) will have been destroyed during the first half of the Tribulation period. The saints who are martyred during the Tribulation are not part of the church. They are defined in Revelation 7:14 as “the ones who come out of the Great Tribulation, and [have] washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” (17) Revelation 11:3-14. The Two Witnesses prophesy 1,260 days-a ministry which, if taken literally, would correspond with the forty-two months of judgments already described. Obviously, these two witnesses are real people with miraculous powers like Moses and Elijah, here to preach and witness during the entire first half of the Tribulation. It may be through their witness that the 144,000 are saved and sent out preaching. As dreadful a time as this will be, God is faithful to provide plenty of gospel preaching to the nations. (18) Revelation 11:15. The seventh trumpet judgment introduces the awesome events described in chapters 12-18 and the most severe set of judgments yet reported, the Vial Judgments. (19) Revelation 17:1-18. Describes the destruction of the Babylonish, false religious system (Catholicism)-the great harlot-(Rome) which will merge all the religions of the world during the first part of the Tribulation. This system will be so powerful that it will dominate both the Antichrist (“the beast”) and the ten kings at that time. But because of their hatred for the harlot, at the midpoint of the Tribulation, they will make war on her and kill her. 20) Revelation 13:1-3. In the process of killing the harlot Mystery Babylon, the false religious system, somehow the Antichrist is killed and gets “a deadly wound” that is healed. (That is refereing to the The Lateran Treaty establishes the Vatican City State, declares the person of the Pope to be sacrosanct and inviolable, recognizes the sovereignty of the Holy See and its right of legation, settles certain questions regarding real property of the Holy See outside the Vatican City State, and provides for the ...1929) In chapter 12 Satan himself is cast out of heaven, where he has been “the accuser of our brethren,” and now he enters Antichrist’s body and resurrects him to a new and even more vicious life. 21) Revelation 13:4-10. Antichrist, now incarnated, will force the remaining people of the earth to worship him, except those whose names are in the Lamb’s Book of Life (see 2 Thessalonians 2:8-10). (22) Revelation 13:11-18. The False Prophet will replace the slain religious system, forcing people to worship Antichrist and his image, or be killed. Everyone will be compelled to display a 666 mark in order to hold a job and “buy and sell.” 23) Revelation 16:1-2. The first vial causes giant sores on those who rejected Christ and instead accepted the mark of the Beast, signifying their worship of him. (24) Revelation 16:3. The second vial is poured out on the sea, turning it “to blood as of a dead man; and every living creature in the sea died.” (25) Revelation 16:4. The third vial turns the rivers and other sources of water to blood (an especially just judgment because the people remaining had killed so many Tribulation saints). (26) Revelation 16:8-9. The fourth vial will intensify the sun’s heat until ungodly men blaspheme the name of God. (27) Revelation 16:10-11. The fifth vial will cause darkness to cover the throne of Antichrist and his entire kingdom. The sores will continue unrelentingly, producing such agony that men will gnaw their tongues for pain and blaspheme God and refuse to repent. 28) Revelation 16:13-16. The sixth vial sends lying demon spirits out to the kings of the whole world to bring them down to “the battle of that great day of God Almighty,” more popularly known as the Battle of Armageddon. (29) Revelation 16:17-21. The seventh vial result sin a judgment of Almighty God that destroys the entire world system and judges all unsaved men severely. But even though enormous hailstones fall, the unregenerate still refuse to repent. This judgment is so devastating that it prepares the world for the coming of Christ to set up His earthly kingdom. (30) Revelation 18:1-24. The destruction of commercial and governmental Babylon-the New World Order for which man has yearned ever since his rebellion at Babylon-now occurs, possibly during the seventh vial since it fits there (verse 19) just before earth’s final judgment. It will totally collapse the Antichrist’s system and further pave the way for the best event of the Tribulation. (31) Revelation 19:11-21. We finally witness the Glorious Appearing of Christ in Power and Great Glory as King of kings and Lord of lords . verse 17--- And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.” 19 Then I saw the beast (Pope) and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army. 20 But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. 21 The rest were killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh. Rev 21:1 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. (for those that insist we will be on earth the 1000 years: 2 Peter 3:10-18 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? ALL BURNED UP!!! NO trees!! No water!! No grass! No stars!! MALACHI 4:3 Malachi 4:3 KJV: And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of .. ONLY ASHES LEFT when New Jerusalem comes down from heaven

[@jakinboaz8558]

For an alternative explanation of those verses that would answer your question, check out NT Wright (especially Surprised by Hope)

[@stevenpaulk8788]

@@jakinboaz8558 don't understand

[@mitchellosmer1293]

@@jakinboaz8558 quote---For an alternative explanation of those verses that would answer your question, check out NT Wright (especially Surprised by Hope)--unquote Nope--I can not question or debate a book.

[@hollyphillips7597]

No one asked you hun! You are not even making sense…

[@JesusReignsEternal]

Pastor Tiff can you please asnwer me on Revelation 12? Revelation 12:17 says And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. I know the woman is Israel, and the Child spoken of earlier is Christ, and it even says the Child is caught up to God, this to me can speak of Christ coming just above the clouds then rapturing us up to Him, but it speaks of those who have the gospel of Christ after this point.

[@humblewatchman1673]

The child (Jesus) was caught up in Acts 2 after the resurrection….it already happened. And the angels standing there said, He’ll come back in the same way [on the clouds].

[@Michael_the_Servant]

The woman is not Israel. The woman is all the believers of God, both those who are in Israel and those who are Gentiles. This is why she has both the Sun and Moon. The Sun being tied to the Gentiles, and the Moon being tied to Israel.

[@humblewatchman1673]

The woman is most certainly Israel. Think Joseph’s dream, which every 1st century Jew would’ve understood immediately, and think who birthed the Messiah - the nation of Israel.

[@Michael_the_Servant]

@@humblewatchman1673, oh really? Who is Jesus’s mother?

[@humblewatchman1673]

The dragon becomes enraged and pursues the woman who is carried away to the wilderness on wings of eagles…now read exodus 19:4 4 ‘You yourselves have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I carried you on eagles’ wings, and brought you to Myself. She’s carried away to the wilderness for 3.5 years. The dragon is unsuccessful in destroying her, so he goes after the rest of her offspring….so we have Israel as the woman, Jesus as the baby, and the church as the rest of the offspring. It’s a very simple picture that we can use the Bible to interpret, rather than importing meaning from outside the Bible.

[@SonShines1]

What do u keep reaching for?

[@deliahniemandkadoshbride7440]

What an excellent teaching !!!! Thank you so much...be RAPTURE READY at every moment....thank You Jesus. The Lord bless you pastor!

[@shivli6088]

There is absolutely a rapture of the church. This is written in the bible. Thessalonians 4:13-17). In this view, the rapture-which is the transformation and catching up of all Christians, dead or alive, to meet Christ in the air-will be secret, for it will be unknown to the world of unbelievers at the time of its happening.

[@lindaedwards2342]

Uhh yes

[@prophetbradley5048]

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[@prophetbradley5048]

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[@roysantiago6525]

What you call the rapture is really the first resurrection

[@MB777-qr2xv]

This is long, but please, find the time to read it with your Bible out and see for yourself what scripture really says about the Day of the Lord and the Rapture. Did I misquote something in my comment? Did I twist the scripture? Does Joel 2:31 say that "The sun will be darkened, and the moon turned to blood BEFORE the great and terrible Day of the Lord?" Does Jesus say, "Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light?" Does this not mean that the Day of the Lord Wrath starts AFTER the time of Great Tribulation? AND doesn't Jesus describe this time of Great Tribulation, and then give us a warning sign (ALL warning signs come BEFORE what they are warning about) Does He not say AFTER describing the tribulation, "THEREFORE when you see the Abomination of Desolation...flee?" This means the time of Great Tribulation stars AFTER the warning sign, which is the mid-point, then immediately AFTER the warning sign, according to Jesus Himself, comes the signs in sun and moon that Joel says, comes BEFORE the Day of the Lord. By the way, where does the Bible say the 24 elders are those who got raptured before the tribulation? Couldn't the 24 elders just represent Christians who have died? Maybe Stephen (the first Martyr for Christ) was one of the 24. Also, the first chapter of Revelation says, "The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place." This means that the point of the book of Revelation was to REVEAL what will come to pass. So Jesus opening the seals, and the trumpets and the vials are to show John what to write in his messages to the church. I was a pre-trib believer for five years, but in the last 35 years of constant study, I have found too many inconsistencies in the pre-trib view. By the way, I have been attending a Calvary Chapel for 25 years: I love my pastor and my church, even though I don't agree with the pre-trib viewpoint. There are too many assumptions in the pre-trib. For instance, there is not a single verse that even hints that the Holy Spirit residing in the church is the restrainer of the anti-christ. Pre-trib theologians will say the tribulation period is another name for Daniel's 70th week. BUT Jesus speaking of the time of Great Tribulation says, "If those days are not shortened, all flesh would be destroyed, so for the sake of the elect, those days will be shortened. Daniel's 70th week can't be shortened, even by a single day. Speaking of Daniel's 70th "It first mentions “1,260 days” which is three and a half years using the Babylonian calendar, then it says, “From the time the sacrifice is abolished (mid-point) there will be 1290 days.” Then it says, “Blessed is the one who makes it to the 1,335 day.” If Daniel’s 70th week is cut short by just one day, there would be no “1,335th Day!” Pre-trib believers will say, "When Paul wrote, “we who are alive and remain shall be caught up…” it was because he believed in the imminent return of Christ. It is scripturally impossible for Paul to have written the word “we” because he thought he would be alive at the time of the rapture. He indeed may have thought such a thing, but he only wrote exactly what the Holy Spirit told him to write. 1st Peter 1:21 says “For prophecy never had its origin in the will (mind) of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.” The pre-trib believer will say, At the Rapture Jesus comes for the Church, at the 2nd Coming He comes with the Church. This is not found in scripture. 1 Thessalonians 4:14-15 says, “For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring WITH Jesus (at the Rapture) those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself shall descend…” The Bible actually teaches that whenever the rapture is (pre, mid, post etc.”) Jesus comes with the “dead in Christ” and for “we who are alive and remain.” Since approximately 49 generations of Christians have died and gone to be with the Lord and only one generation is alive right now, Christ will actually come with the vast majority of the church (the dead in Christ) and for a tiny remnant; those who are alive and remain. The pre-trib believer will speak of the imminent return of Jesus Christ. No scriptural evidence. Actually, the sign in sun and moon, (Joel 2:31) the great apostasy, and the man of sin (anti-christ) being revealed by the abomination of desolation (Matthew 24:21) all come before the Day of the Lord. Since Christ’s return for the rapture is in conjunction with the Day of the Lord, then it can’t be imminent. Also, since in Pre-trib theology the church being raptured would allow the ant-christ to appear and sign his seven-year treaty with Israel, then there must be a nation of Israel. Remember, there was no nation of Israel from 70 AD to May 14, 1948. So, at the very least, Christ’ coming couldn’t have been imminent until May 14, 1948. The pre-trib believer will say, the imminent return of Christ is a teaching of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit knows full well when Jesus will return for His Church, and it’s already been two thousand years. How could the Holy Spirit have taught the writers of the New Testament that Jesus could come any moment, when He knows everything, including the exact date of the rapture? The pre-trib believer will say, there is a difference between “coming” and “appearing.” Hebrews 9:28 says “Christ was sacrificed once (the first coming) to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.” “Appear a second time,” is calling the first coming “an appearing.” I have heard pre-trib pastors say, Noah and his family got in the Ark and had to wait seven days for the flood; representative of being rescued in a pre-trib rapture with final punishment of wicked seven years later at Armageddon. HOWEVER, Genesis 7:11-13 says, “In the 600th year of Noah’s life on the 17th day of the 2nd month the great fountains of the deep burst forth and the windows of heaven poured down rain. On that very day, Noah and his sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth, together with his wife and the wives of his three sons, entered the ark.” In Pre-trib theology, the Rapture of the Church (disappearance of hundreds of millions) the Day of the Lord Wrath and signing of a seven-year peace treaty with Israel by the “anti-Christ” happen/start on the very same day: the first day of Daniel’s Seventieth Week. This is problematic for the “pre-trib” camp, because Jesus does not mention the first three and a half years at all in the Olivet Discourse. REMEMBER, in talking about the time of Great Tribulation, Jesus gives a warning sign; the Abomination of Desolation, that Daniel says, comes at the midpoint of the seven-year treaty signed by the anti-christ. Again, I have zero animosity towards any pre-trib theologians, pastors, or believers. I attend a Calvary Chapel who is 100% pre-trib.

[@rebeccaxodonq7893]

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[@RandyRoth-mo3lz]

Tiff... where does Revelation teach a 7 year trib? Daniel taught that a prince would come and CONFIRM a covenant with many... Fulfilled by Titus who's father Vespasian... ruler of Rome. Titus confirmed the covenant made by Alexander the Great and the high priest of Israel... recorded in the Maccabees... which was upheld by the Hellenists into Roman rule. He confirmed the covenant with the Roman Senate to squelch the Jewish Uprising. Thus he stated the 7 year Roman-Jewish War or Jewish Uprising from 66 AD to 73 AD...which ended with the fall of Masada. In the middle of that week the sacrifices and offerings ended.. 70 AD and the temple was destroyed. So Daniel doesn't teach a 7 year tribulation...either... rather it is a singular interpretation... 2 Peter 1:20 of John Nelson Darby. God asks in the end... Isaiah 66:1... where that 3rd temple is, that doesn't exist. No Scripture gives a 2nd witness to Darby's private interpretation.... not to mention that he came up with it prior to the book being unsealed... Dan 12:4....He was prior to the pony express. You mention OTHER references in Scripture of a 7 year trib.... I know you'd like to hope that you weren't lying... so please reference.

[@jakinboaz8558]

Hey Randy, I’m confused at some of your references. So I don’t know a lot about preterist vs futurist debate and talking points, as I stopped believing in rapture (never actually did because I was young enough not to be exposed to it so much) in middle school, focused my eschatology on 1 Corinthians 15 and not worrying about the rest. But could you elaborate (forgive me for asking this) in perhaps an easier-to-read manner for someone less familiar with your point of view? The whole prince/covenant/Vespasian/Alexander stuff is I think new to me. Also if you can remember where you learned that or what school of thought it is, I’d appreciate it. I do have 3 points of pushback if that’s alright: 1. On the Jewish War: I didn’t think Masada was (at least at the time) a major enough event to be considered a key part of the war; I was under the impression that it was all over when Jerusalem was destroyed and that Masada was more of an aftermath or last-ditch effort as a booked taught in history because it was so soon afterward and so dramatic. 2. What do Isaiah 66:1 and Daniel 12:4 have to do with the pony express? Are you suggesting that the existence of a relatively minor event lime the pony express was an unsealing of some part of biblical prophecy? I may misunderstand you, but I’m a bit surprised since you don’t seem to be a dispensationalist, and I thought the tendency to shoehorn historical events of the last 200 years into biblical prophecy was a dispensationalist tendency. 3. This is perhaps my most serious criticism: in your last paragraph, you seem to imply that the author of the video is or may be lying. As your brother in Christ, I ask you heed this: PLEASE don’t accuse someone of lying (especially a brother in Christ that you haven’t even met) just because you disagree, even if (and I would likely agree with you on this) that person is quite mistaken on important subjects and is not very good at arguing his case. Please show charity to your brother in Christ. Mistakes will happen in the Church. Most of us will be wrong on some stuff, and that’s okay.

[@RandyRoth-mo3lz]

@@jakinboaz8558 Thanks for your inquiry. Last week I put out a video that address your questions called, " Old Testament foundations for a rapture?" As far as your point #3: You must believe Jesus to be saved. Christ taught, "My sheep hear my voice and the voice of another they will not follow"... John 10. Christ directly taught that He comes after the tribulation... Matt 24:29-31. Being that no Scripture states that He comes prior... the opposite of Christ.... Which voice states the opposite of Christ in order to suggest the opposite of Christ.... a rapture prior to tribulation? Don't you think that there should actually be Scripture that states the opposite of God, before there is even a remote consideration of such a notion? John.... quoting Christ from the Olivet Discourse... Matt 24, Mark 13, Luke 21... tells us in 1 John 2:18,19 that there are many antichrists and that they come from within the church. If an antichrist calls themselves "Christ"... then his followers call themselves "christians".... Of course they don't call themselves "antichristians", but brothers.... when they are not. Jesus tells about the sheep and the goats, the wheat and the chaff, the hot, the cold and the lukewarm, the 4 soil types and the wise and the foolish virgins. Consider the virgins.... they are all watching for His return... they all slept while waiting. In the end the foolish are told "I know you not" and the door is shut to them. If Christ told them "I know you not"... they were never saved.... however they make up half of the wedding party. If half of the wedding party doesn't get their eschatology correct and told "I know you not"... Christ declares that getting your view right is a matter of salvation..... or at least an indicator of whether or not someone believed Christ to begin with. It's quite possible that Matt 25 was addressed in the same conversation as Matt 24. If Christ just finished telling us that He comes after the tribulation....Matt 24... then preparations would be made by the wise....Matt 25... the only reason the foolish were considered foolish was because they did not bring a vessel in which to refuel their lamps... Indeed they had oil in their lamps, because we are told that they went out... however, they could not refuel, because they did not prepare. Why did they not prepare? ....because they thought His coming was imminent.... rather than believing Him when He directly stated that He comes afterward... If someone is teaching the opposite of Christ, they will produce opposite fruit... instead of wise virgins... they will produce the foolish....The only nature of the "stony soil" believer... Mark 4:16-18 is the fact that they have no mindset for tribulation and persecution... Of course, this is not an easy mindset to have.... and it is not difficult to join a group that insists that Christ paid it all, and therefore we do not have to suffer.... Of course, here again we are taught the opposite of Christ and Paul.... John 16:33... paul states twice, "ALL those who live godly lives in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution". Dispensationalism is the cult with the foundations that reject Christ. We are told by dispensationalists that Paul is our apostle,and therefore we live under the dispensation (message) of Paul and the dispensation (message) of Christ is not valid for us.... Therefore Christ is no longer the way, the truth and the life...and somehow we can make it to the Father through this mere man Paul. You cannot teach a rapture, without first being indoctrinated in dispensationalism... some know dispensationalism is being addressed and taught.... others do not... and think they are only being taught a rapture. Dispensationalism teaches a counterfeit salvation, a counterfeit return of Christ, a counterfeit gospel,and a counterfeit hope. Jude address them as "wicked"... Jude 1:1-3, as does Peter, 2 Peter 3;15-17. "Lying": God Himself puts a strong delusion over those who do not love the truth... 2 Thess 2:10-12.... to teach the opposite of Christ is to not love the truth... the opposite of truth is a lie...

[@RandyRoth-mo3lz]

@@jakinboaz8558 BTW.... I'm not a preterist... and have videos that debunk such notions.... Preterists won't answer my questions for the same reason rapturists won't.... It's because they can't...Scripture doesn't support what they pretend!

[@davidwoods6015]

I listened to this guy and gave him a chance to explain the rapture. He really didn't do a very good job of convincing me of any of this futurist nonsense. He went to 1Thess 4.:17 and talked at length and said from this verse believers were heaven bound? REALLY!!! It doesn't say that anywhere in the verse. Then he jumped to John 14. What's interesting about this verse is it's simply talking about the deceased believers and where they are right now. Nothing to do with a rapture. A lot to do with the 2nd coming as these resurrected dead saints are made alive and come with Jesus at His 2nd coming. 'Then" to receive the church that never left this earth in the 1st place. This guy believes the church will be taken into heaven to avoid the 7 year tribulation. You won't see a 7 year tribulation in Revelation anywhere so where does that come from? This guy is simply taking O.T info. and 1st century events and chucking them out into our future. He thinks there is a Matt.24 replay.!!!! Matt.24:21 states that this 1st century event was so terrible and grotesque it will never happen again. And the final straw was of course Rev.chap.4 where John in a vision is taken up into heaven. Sooooo where are millions of believers caught up ? There's nothing said about millions of people taken up ? Where does that come from? This is simply "eisogesis. Reading something "into"the text that's not there.This is what this Tiff guy is doing, continuously.!!!!!!!😮

[@residuejunkie4321]

*Here's what JESUS said about when He's coming back....* *Matthew 24:3* “And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?” *Matthew 24:9* “Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.” *Matthew 24:29* *“Immediately after the tribulation* of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:” *Matthew 24:30* “And *then* shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and *then* shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.” *Revelation 9:6* “And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.” *Revelation 20:4* “And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were *beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God,* and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.” King James Version In *Daniel 7:25* God told us that the *Antichrist* would "think to change _times and laws,"_ and that God would allow him to for a little while. Times and laws meant history and laws of physics. 👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇 *So what he has used that power to do is to change the Holy bible into something unholy and even blasphemous, supernaturally right in our homes with black magic in order to establish his one world religion and to exterminate all Christians!!!* The fulfillment of *Amos **8:11* where God said He would send a famine for hearing His word, the "lying signs and wonders" and "strong delusion" spoken of in *2nd Thessalonians chapter two* are all happening right now, but maybe only 1% of all believers know it! (so far) And the "pastors" aren't ever going to mention it!!! *All true followers of Christ can see proof of what I've said by typing in (proof of bible change residue junkie). I don't make videos BTW.* *God bless you all!!!* ❤✝️💪

[@rebeccaxodonq7893]

Too much twisting the Bible? using Noah days for example was that it will be like Noah days they will be still marrying and banquets and partying, eating and drinking enjoying but suddenly God punishment came to unbelievers were the one taken to be judge, and believers were left. Likewise it will be like that in Jesus coming the unbelievers will be the one will be consume..

[@deepuckrughoobur632]

THE SPRIT PRINCE KINGDOM OF PERSIA CAST OUT BLOOD OF JESUS WITH HOLY SPRIT NOW

[@PMM4JC]

Rapture is “Scheduled soon”! Enoch is perfect picture! 🙏🙏

[@marcuscrouch8887]

My trust is in the Lord. I however do think the pre tribulation rapture is soon. Maranatha

[@brendaclark8053]

Yes it is in the Bible ; it’s called “ caught up “

[@GIWY25]

amen

[@drdarrylschroeder5691]

Hello - Jesus/Sananda Himself declared in a recent communique that no one is about to disappear upward magically. This is an invention by priests. Ascension and immortality can only be EARNED after many lifetimes of spiritual evolution we have all signed up for by the grace of GOD. Blessings - RevDrD/Ministry

[@Jesus_is_Lord_316]

"THE RAPTURE TAKES PLACE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION" Yes!! This is EXACTLY how the Bible teaches us. Even so, Maranatha 🙏🎺✈

[@ChanceCritters]

Matthew 24, Luke 21 and Mark 13 say differently.

[@Jesus_is_Lord_316]

@@ChanceCritters no they don’t. These 3 Biblical facts alone confirm the pre-Tribulation Rapture: 1 - no man knows the day. This CANNOT be Jesus’ 2nd Coming because we will know the day of the 2nd Coming. We have a countdown from the midway point of the Tribulation - to the day!! 2 - people will be buying and selling and building and marrying. This CANNOT be referring to the end of the 7-year Tribulation as that time will be global catastrophe. 3 - pre-Trib saints (dead & alive) are CAUGHT UP/raptured into the air to be with the Lord, and their flesh bodies are changed from mortal to immortal (glorified bodies - 1 Thess 4:16-17 & 1 Cor 15:50-53). These same saints are in Heaven (clothed in linen, clean and white) and are at the marriage supper of the Lamb BEFORE Jesus' 2nd Coming (Rev 19:1-9). These same pre-Trib saints (clothed in white linen) also come back with Jesus when He destroys the anti-christ and his armies at Armageddon (Rev 19:11-15 & Jude 14). The Bible clearly states several times that there is a sudden “thief in the night” appearing of the Lord in the air to rescue His bride, which will catch the world unawares. Not a grand and glorious procession coming on the clouds with great power (2nd Coming), but a “thief in the night” event!! Luke 21:36 - Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Revelation 3:10 - Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from (Greek "se tērēsō ek" = WILL KEEP YOU OUT OF) the hour of temptation/trial, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. The coming hour of trial (7-year Tribulation) is the time of Jacob's trouble (Jeremiah 30:7), and is to try the Earth Dwellers, not the saints in Heaven.

[@user-vl2vm8ev6w]

​​​​@@ChanceCritterswhat are you talking about. Luke 21 literally tells of the pre-tribulation rapture. The apostles asked the Lord Jesus Christ, what will happen in the end. Throughout this entire chapter of the Lord Jesus Christ tells me everything that will happen in the end, then the very last thing he says in Luke 21;36 is therefore afraid that you will be accounted worthy to escape ALL these things and to stand before the summary. He didn't say pray that you'll be saved through these things, he didn't say pray that you will escape some of them, or pray that you will be kept alive from these things, no he said pray that you'll be accounted worthy to escape all these things, all these things are all these things, and stand before the song The man. The fact that you say that this chapter says something it doesn't and tell people that says the complete opposite of what it says, is nothing more than disgusting. Shame on you. You go right ahead and not pray to be counted worthy to escape ALL these things that shall come, but we will continue to do exactly what the Lord said to do and to pray to be worthy to escape ALL these things. You can stay behind since it appears you would rather be with the antichrist, more than Christ.

[@GIWY25]

@@Jesus_is_Lord_316can you help me understand the part that once the 2 witnesses are dead, how people will be celebrating and sending gifts ? When does the 2 witnesses start there prophecy. I’m a bit lost on this matter. Thanks for your help

[@derekbotha9405]

The rapture is an event that will happen. Mathew 24 refers to an one on one rapture that are happening, two will be in the bedroom, two will be in the land, two will be in the kitchen. One will be raptured, in other words "saved" and the other one will stay behind for a reason. Mathew 25 teach us about an event that will happen, it is about the parable of the ten virgins! We are living in a wonderful created world which consist of different dimensions, the first ( grave), third dimension ( earth) and fivth dimension (heaven) and the seventh dimension ( Holiest or Divine power). The third dimension is the world of religion, religion cause deception, lies, wars, natural disasters because of antagonism, hatred and division! Wars must happen, natural disasters must happen, plagues must happen. No flesh can enter heaven, only the soul and spirit, ( John 3). Mathew 16 defines satan, John 16 defines "sin" Revelation 19 Father declared Jesus Christ, Revelation 22 defines plagues. The rapture is therefore an event created by God to move us away from religion towards Jesus Christ, His Kingdom, the fifth dimension! Many preachers are misleading people as written in 2 Thessalonians 2 just to control people and their mindset, keeping them away from the Truth, tje garden of Eden called the new Jerusalem! God is God of love, but also a God of justice, therefore we are not allowed to judge one another, Mathew 7, but to teach one another to be saved from the evil of religion!

[@rebeccaxodonq7893]

I'm really feel sorry for this brother tiff he seems wants everyone to accept his rapture I believe his intention is very good he wants everyone to go heaven. But unfortunately his rapture theory is wrong and it's not according to biblical. They translated English bible so well but why on earth they would skip the rapture part? If his rapture is true then our Bible many books are incorrect especially revelation is wrong which shows we are going through great tribulation .and there will be true genuine they will endure the tribulation till the end. And they will see Jesus 2nd coming on the clouds . And the unsaved people will be horrifying saying to the mountain and rock cover me hide me from the Lord and will tremble.. And Jesus glory brightness will kill them. And when Jesus comes the saved one who were sleeping will heard Jesus noise and will resurrect from grave, along with who didn't die will be transform in the twinkling eyes and they will go to heaven there will reign 1000 yrs. And after this thousand yrs the 2nd resurection the unsaved one will resurect from their graves to be judge. . And in revelation those saints who went through tribulation until they are done some died and some didn't no one will enter the gate in heaven cuz they are waiting for them.. And if the believers rapture before tribulation, and if the unbelievers left behind why on earth they will have to force then to take the mark of the beadt n worship him? They don't need to be force right. And if they are rapture how is fair that those Christian will be the true genuine lovers of God and his side if they didn't face such trials.. Come on just bcs we are the Christian doesn't mean that we will be living only smooth life and will not experience such trials. Then did Jesus disciples lived luxury? What about the dark ages did they lived full of luxury?

[@jamesfields4149]

The Rapture .........in Rev 20 Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. I see.......3 ( Parts ).......to the First Resurrection I see.......The Barley Harvest......the Wheat Harvest......and the Grape Harvest....... 1st ( Part )..........The Barley Harvest...........Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: Mat 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 2nd ( Part )..........The Wheat Harvest............and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 3rd ( Part )..........The Grape Harvest..........Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished......Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

[@jmo900]

In 1 Thessalonians 4, the phrase "caught up: means rapture in Latin. It is Harpazo in Greek. Jesus brings the souls and spirits with Him from Heaven to the clouds, then the dead body on earth is changed in less than a second and the soul and spirit is placed into the new body. We who are alive, will be raptured and will too receive a new body. Then Jesus takes us back to heaven for 7 or more years. The key is Jesus takes us back to heaven, so there is NO post tribulation rapture. Remember Enoch was taken because He had this testimony that he pleased God. And the only way to please God is too trust in His Son's death, burial, and resurrection for salvation, which is the Gospel. The only person in the Bible the Father was "well pleased" with was Jesus.

[@johnpearce3714]

@jmo900 , where do you get the idea that we are in Heaven for seven years ?!

[@johnpearce3714]

@ Jmo 900 ,Many do Believe that The LORD YESHUA /JESUS CHRIST Will / shall return , HIS Second Coming will be at the End of the Seven year Tribulation Period. ref. Mathew 24 ,Luke 21 --- * of course many Believe in the Pre.Tribulation return / Second Coming, However ,Whether it be a Pre. or Post ( Snatching away / Caught up ) ---- * we are to be ready for HIS Coming ---- if we are Alive here at the time of HIS Coming. ----

[@rebeccaxodonq7893]

Bro Jesus took the believers this event will be after great tribulation. In revelation the in 6 trumpet the probation was close full stop.

[@loriimrie8715]

no its not in the bible. we are in the days of Noah. wat happened to Noah? HE was left behind and the evil was taken away. So will it be with us.....

[@GIWY25]

It’s opposite this time! Days of Noah is simply meaning days like that of Noah’s time wicked wicked wicked. However The Noah’s this time of Noah’s time will be taken away and not left on earth for tribulation.

[@rebeccaxodonq7893]

​@@GIWY25 it's bible contra bro. Be careful n read Bible. Noah is an example. so there is no not this.. time is the opposite of Noah Ur talking humanly opinion..

[@jakinboaz8558]

It’s not. If it was, why did nobody believe it until the mid-1800s and the creation of Dispensationalism? Until then, Christians were either Amillenial, Postmillenial, or Historic Premillenial, none of which involved rapture theology. The 2 Thessalonians verse is best understood in the context of a king’s presence or “parousia”, with us meeting Him in the air as citizens welcome a triumphant king outside the city walls to escort him in. Rapture theology is also very hard to make consistent with several (much stronger or with longer passages) themes in the New Testament: 1) the resurrection of our bodies. See 1 Corinthians 15 and many other verses in the Epistles. Theologian NT Wright has a whole book grounded in this chapter (Surprised by Hope). 2) the importance of the physical - our bodies and the world around us - is highly emphasized in Scripture and often contrasted with Gnostic views of escapism from the world or of the physical as bad. Reread 1 John and 2 John in light of the Gnostics John was writing against. Unfortunately Gnostic tendencies often creep into some Christian circles, and Rapture theology seems to bear this influence. 3) the Kingdom of God. Christ’s first proclamation recorded in (I think) Mark was “the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe the good news.” What is the good news? Jesus hadn’t died for us yet so that wasn’t it. It was that God is claiming dominion over all creation, establishing His Kingdom on earth, and that we are invited to take part (of course, only by the blood of Christ are we permitted in, and that became clear 3 and a half years after He first proclaimed the Kingdom). This parallels the Isaiah passage Jesus read in the Nazareth synagogue. If the Gospel was only about you going to heaven when you die and leaving the world, why would Jesus start with a passage about good news to the poor and healing the unwell? No, Christ will restore all things, and His Kingdom shall have no end.

[@jakinboaz8558]

Believing in the rapture doesn’t make you a heretic, false teacher, or non-Christian. It just means you are mistaken on eschatology, which might affect how you perceive the mission of the Church. As for the “days of Noah” passage, the usage of it to justify rapture theology is inconsistent with the passage. When Jesus compares the day of the Lord to Noah, it’s obviously about the flood. Who was “taken away,” Noah (and family) or all the people on the earth? Obviously the latter. Therefore using it as an indicator for rapture would imply the Christians are left on earth and the unbelievers are taken away (which is obviously the opposite of rapture theology). So the verse cannot be used to justify said theology.

[@user-mh9rs9ti5h]

Proof, you have religion rather then the RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST.