Is the Shroud of Turin Real?

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Augustine Institute | The Catholic Faith Explained

Augustine Institute | The Catholic Faith Explained

Жыл бұрын

This clip comes from a full episode of the Chris Stefanick Show with Jesuit scientist and scholar on the Shroud of Turin, Fr. Robert Spitzer: • The TRUTH About the Sh...
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@joeobrien196
@joeobrien196 Жыл бұрын
Blessed are those who have not seen but yet believe.
@kevinkelly2162
@kevinkelly2162 Жыл бұрын
Stupid quote. If you see then you know and there is no need to believe
@peterstone3577
@peterstone3577 Жыл бұрын
​@@kevinkelly2162 I think the only stupid thing here is your comment pal 🤦‍♂️
@J-PLeigh8409
@J-PLeigh8409 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinkelly2162 its a text from holy scripture, the words of Christ in John 20:29 Jesus says to Thomas(doubting Thomas), because you have seen Me you believed. Blessed are those who have not seen & yet have believed..... Hes affirming our faith in Him, so kinda not stupid
@kevinkelly2162
@kevinkelly2162 Жыл бұрын
@@J-PLeigh8409 I have two boxes. In both I claim there is a cigarette. One has a glass lid. So in one you can see the cigarette, Do you believe there is a cigarette in the box or, since you can see it, do you know? That is why I have always found it a stupid quote.
@J-PLeigh8409
@J-PLeigh8409 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinkelly2162 are you missing the explicit point the risen Christ Jesus is making? Saint Thomas doubted even tho he was w/ Christ for his ministry & all the miracles & prophecies, so Jesus says 'us who are to have faith while not physically seeing him, are blessed,' as that is the definition of faith, it doesn't mean those who have seen him are not blessed. Its a promise to his church. I just fail to see the stupidity in it or anything Christ said...but Im assuming your an unbeliever...which I wonder if you see him that you would remain in unbelief lol
@skyelord6229
@skyelord6229 Жыл бұрын
O Bleeding Face, O Face Divine, be every adoration Thine!
@miryambarnabas2424
@miryambarnabas2424 3 ай бұрын
Amen ❤
@damo780
@damo780 Жыл бұрын
The most important relic of modern time. Scientific proof of the supernatural nature of Jesus.
@RD-kz4wr
@RD-kz4wr Жыл бұрын
No matter how much proof there is, there will be those that deny it. It's clear this has 2 or 3 unexplained major conflictions with a 'physical & rational' explanation. Regardless of its authenticity, it has no relevance on the teachings of the bible, and the path of life for us to take.
3 ай бұрын
Don't look for this kind of "proof", it's folly, and the evidence saying it ISN'T Jesus is far stronger (despite what a Catholic channel is gonna tell you) than the alternative. I don't think God would even allow something like this to exist due to possible idol worship tbh. Btw, Isaiah prophesied that Jesus had His beard pulled out. Nice full beard on that image...
@karenisak9631
@karenisak9631 Жыл бұрын
ALL GLORY goes to you Oh LORD JESUS CHRIST ✝️🙏🏼
@tlk0216
@tlk0216 3 ай бұрын
Was not his name
@maryccwm1
@maryccwm1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Father Spitzer and Chris, I seen a documentary of the Holy Shroud Of Turin,heartbreaking 😢
@standforfreedom5264
@standforfreedom5264 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris for these awesome interviews!! There is no doubt this is the image I f Christ!
@kevinkingmaker7395
@kevinkingmaker7395 Жыл бұрын
If you believe there is no doubt, you have not studied the issue.
@benjaminfalzon4622
@benjaminfalzon4622 Жыл бұрын
It took the scientist three years to figure out if the image was genuine or a fake, their final conclusion was, it could be a fake. It took me only 2 min to know for sure, that it is a genuine fake. Read Deut 5:8-9. And if you believe God, you too will know it's a fake. God never backflip nor contradicts himself. It's a very old piece of rag, so no one knows exactly what kind of art materials Leonardo Da Vinci used to paint the image, It is said that a certain amount of blood was mixed with other liquids including eggs. "Only Leo knows what paint he used because it was his own recipe" 😇 The Bible says, "It's shameful for a man to wear long hair." 1 Cor 11:14 "KJV," Note. The image on the old rag has long hair. One more thing". If the image on the old rag was of Jesus Christ, then why are all of the statues and other images of Jesus have different faces? Wouldn't you think that if the image on the rag was that of Jesus, that all statues and images would resemble the same faces as the face on the rag? The rag is centuries old, So why didn't the Pagan Catholic Church make all of the forbidden statues and images of Jesus' faces look identical to the face which is on the rag? 🤗
@femaleKCRoyalsFan
@femaleKCRoyalsFan Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminfalzon4622 You have been deceived by those who say that Leonardo da Vinci created this. There have been pollen samples found on it that were from the time of the first century Holy land. now how do you explain that? Did Davinci have a time machine?
@cuthrell
@cuthrell Жыл бұрын
Our Lord is amazing to reveal these things to us 😌
@pepejimenez9295
@pepejimenez9295 Жыл бұрын
i love this program please do more of this Topic
@roylereg22
@roylereg22 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you for this presentation.
@robertgillis6245
@robertgillis6245 Жыл бұрын
A person should do their own research on The Shroud of Turin. It will be fun, and probably the most fun they will ever have reading the results from the various scientists who was lucky enough to test The Shroud.
@Frshmlk
@Frshmlk Жыл бұрын
good thing joseph wrapped Jesus's body so we could see this 2000 years later!
@karenisak9631
@karenisak9631 Жыл бұрын
Amen ❤
@graywolf432
@graywolf432 Жыл бұрын
Well-done.
@jerricosagala2904
@jerricosagala2904 Жыл бұрын
God has left us His image to be venerated.
3 ай бұрын
Catholics and their idol worship. So much false doctrine in that organization.
@naturejim56
@naturejim56 5 ай бұрын
Praise god
@MrAnonimak
@MrAnonimak Жыл бұрын
So many things I could say about this!
@catherineshaw4937
@catherineshaw4937 Жыл бұрын
The background tv is very distracting
@dylanpabon5591
@dylanpabon5591 Жыл бұрын
Jesus left us his Image for us remember him for centuries, he is my only God
@elizabethdizon2886
@elizabethdizon2886 Жыл бұрын
Yes it is, its the same face when ive Seen Lord Jesus in my Dream,
@Mechy2003
@Mechy2003 Жыл бұрын
"EL MÁS HERMOSO DE LOS HIJOS DE LOS HOMBRES"
@Warriorking.1963
@Warriorking.1963 Жыл бұрын
This shroud is a seriously impressive piece of evidence to support what is written in the Gospels. I have a science background, and have been atheist for decades, but the Shroud of Turin has always been a blind spot in my atheism. One thing I don't understand is why theists try to convince people like me, who struggle to accept anything without evidence, by lecturing us to just accept the Bible on faith. Then they attack evolution, why do that? First if evolution is wrong, then all Biology has to be wrong, because Biology's foundation is based on evolution, and secondly, the proof for evolution stands up to scrutiny. And the other problem with this approach, even if evolution IS wrong, it won't bring the creation story in Genesis any closer to being true, so what's the point? So Christians come at people like me, trying to convince us all Biology is wrong because evolution is made up, and all that does is immediately get us to immediately slam down the shutters. Instead, why not use the proof the Shroud of Turin provides? It appeals to people who have a bit of a scientific mind, because even atheist and Jewish experts, and of course Christian experts too, are all stumped to explain in a rational way, how the outline of Jesus - and yes, I'm convinced it IS Jesus - got on that linen. On the record they can't go quite so far as to say the shroud is genuine and that is the outline of Christ on the cloth, but off the record they will say so. THAT is how to convince people in the science world the miracle of the crucifixion and resurrection is real, not by telling them they have to believe things without scientific support, on faith! Which brings me to why I'm posting this comment in the first place (I know, I got sidetracked and went into a bit of a rant there - sorry 'bout that), but I really want to buy a copy of the Bible in modern English; can anyone recommend the best version to go for? Thanks.
@davekanak
@davekanak 6 ай бұрын
Just begin from the most basic scientific Law of Causation and ask what makes more sense? Did a Creator Create Creation or Nothing Evolve Everything?
@rolandovelasquez135
@rolandovelasquez135 Жыл бұрын
Been watching this debate. Got one question. What difference does it make? I mean really, what would happen if that cloth was disappeared somehow? How would that affect anything. By the way, I am a believer in the Lord Jesus. I am saved, and if the shroud of Turin arrived at my town I would not go to see it. Just sayin'.
@richardhall6762
@richardhall6762 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely right. It’s a complete waste of time. Even if it was “real”, which it is not, it’s still a distraction.
@rachelstrahan2486
@rachelstrahan2486 Жыл бұрын
👍
@L_E_L_0_U_P
@L_E_L_0_U_P Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, would love to see Cape Breton island investigated, i've felt gloom there my entire life and when i moved away it was like i was reborn.
@briansmeltzer6071
@briansmeltzer6071 11 күн бұрын
So people can be in the presence of Jesus lol im in His presence every day. He lives inside of me and I feel him and I conversate with him.
@kathleenfrancis1872
@kathleenfrancis1872 Жыл бұрын
YES IT IS THE HOLY FACE OF JESUS 🙏
@kevinkelly2162
@kevinkelly2162 Жыл бұрын
And if you turn it around do you see the holy a $$ of Jesus?
@NuLiForm
@NuLiForm 8 ай бұрын
interesting!...my blood does the same thing...if i get a cut, out comes a crystal clear sparkeling fluid first...then the blood...same when i go for blood tests...it draws a crowd in the phlebotomy room...they say it's plasma..but usually needs to be run in a centrifugal machine for hours to separate the blood from the plasma..& mine is already done automatically..lol. it's also type 0-, which sometimes presents as AB-..which they say they can't explain but it sometimes happens to others as well...like my son & grand daughter.
@jacqueschauvin1398
@jacqueschauvin1398 Жыл бұрын
Lord Jesus save me
@shannonvanpatten8341
@shannonvanpatten8341 Жыл бұрын
14 × 3.5=49. 49 could be a reference to Isaiah 49
@Wolffur
@Wolffur 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, with the scientific evidence of Eucharistic Miracles and the Shroud, we have more evidence than Thomas. We really have no excuse whatsoever.
@jodyvw.9741
@jodyvw.9741 Жыл бұрын
By the way, my older brothers last name is Stefanik...lol.
@davekanak
@davekanak 6 ай бұрын
Those who question the existence of God should just begin from the most basic scientific Law of Causation and ask what makes more sense? Did a Creator Create Creation or Nothing Evolve Everything?
@chrysrobert5026
@chrysrobert5026 Жыл бұрын
Never forget that Karol Woytyla went along with the findings of the discredited Carbon 12 dating. Oh, yes-- he was canonized.
@eddierivera1860
@eddierivera1860 3 ай бұрын
It is jesus🙏❤❤❤
@NuLiForm
@NuLiForm 8 ай бұрын
& i have always known the shroud was his..just instinctively...i just...know it.
@geraldjohnson8871
@geraldjohnson8871 Жыл бұрын
I Am surprised No One has come up with Jesus'coat that was woven from the top and all in one piece that the soldiers cast lots for.?? Amen.
@benjaminyandall9178
@benjaminyandall9178 6 ай бұрын
Holy face of Jesus Christ Amen
@lydiaswift1900
@lydiaswift1900 Жыл бұрын
Well show us up close. So we can see
@femaleKCRoyalsFan
@femaleKCRoyalsFan Жыл бұрын
It’s the same image they use on my holy face medal on my holy face chaplet.
@ishmaelgonzales4876
@ishmaelgonzales4876 Жыл бұрын
❤The Proof THE LORD JESUS'S Existance!❤Material Proof! Amen!
@praiagrande1579
@praiagrande1579 11 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior 🤲✨🕊 Amen
@tlk0216
@tlk0216 3 ай бұрын
Was never his name you fool..thank king james. Dope
@Populous1
@Populous1 Жыл бұрын
Guess Who?
@Constantinos-Cy
@Constantinos-Cy 6 ай бұрын
Oh Yes He is...
@kevinkingmaker7395
@kevinkingmaker7395 Жыл бұрын
Why did the New Testament writers, who wrote decades after Jesus' death, not mention a miraculous image on his burial cloth? They could have brought tens of thousands more souls to salvation with this divine evidence of Jesus' resurrection.
@BB-qp9ri
@BB-qp9ri 8 ай бұрын
Because the image wasn’t discovered until it was photographed in 1898
@kevinkingmaker7395
@kevinkingmaker7395 8 ай бұрын
The image is visible with the naked eye as anyone viewing the Shroud can attest. Also, the Shroud has been revered and displayed since the mid-14th century, well before photography.@@BB-qp9ri
@KatrinaJoseph
@KatrinaJoseph Жыл бұрын
So he paid for our sins so that sins go and multiply 10X times( as the price of sins) has already been paid for. I dont think he came into this earth to die for our sins which aint lessening anyways. Rather i would like to believe he was murdered by cruel, sadistic people.
@paulreints2279
@paulreints2279 Жыл бұрын
He was murdered. He had to be. He took the form of a human and completed the ultimate sacrifice on Our Behalf. Yes, He was murdered. He also rose from the dead three days later, proving His power over death itself. Read John 3:16 first, then the entire chapter.
@KatrinaJoseph
@KatrinaJoseph Жыл бұрын
@@paulreints2279 thanks sir. I have read the book and I have watched Jesus' movies.
@terry2315
@terry2315 Жыл бұрын
When you think about what Jesus went through it is horrifying. Then add in the pain he felt paying for very sin ever committed. Plus, Jesus could just wish you never existed and it would happen. He didn't do that. He made the ultimate sacrifice. Then he had the ultimate victory through his resurrection. I watch videos on KZbin about Near Death Experiences and people who didn't really believe in God have found themselves in hell and cried out for Jesus to help them. In every instance Jesus comes and gets them. When you think about the power emanating from Jesus's body that emblazoned a 3d image on linen it is mind blowing. I heard an estimate that the wattage would have to in the billions to achieve some of the properties on the shroud. I have to go see the shroud before I die.
@femaleKCRoyalsFan
@femaleKCRoyalsFan Жыл бұрын
Considering that Jesus is God, he can’t wish you never existed. though, The only person he said that About was Judas (Paraphrasing here but I believe it was “it would have been better if he would never have been born”)
@bigdawg6308
@bigdawg6308 Жыл бұрын
​@femaleKCRoyalsFan Jesus is not God. Jesus is the son of God, like Jesus says, "the son is nothing without the father" "I can do nothing on my own accord". Why would God pray to himself? Why would Satan tempt God?
@roycornwall2908
@roycornwall2908 8 ай бұрын
I saw JESUS in person and he does not look like that now in heaven. He looks good and kind .
@amandahaynes9205
@amandahaynes9205 Жыл бұрын
Blood stains...so we have Jesus's DNA? 😮
@jimmalloy7279
@jimmalloy7279 11 ай бұрын
The DNA is broken down, so we don't have a complete profile.
@daffidavit
@daffidavit Жыл бұрын
I can also see the teeth.
@go2stjoseph
@go2stjoseph Жыл бұрын
there is a devotion to the Holy Face of Jesus that is focused in appealing to Gods divine mercy for the blasphemy against the Holy Name of God. its my prayer that this age old devotion of the late 19th century be re-publicized cause mankind has turned its back and ears to God. Oh Dear Catholics we need to run to God mercy so the wheat and the weed dont get burnt together as justice will demand it. Our Lady help of Christians - Pray for Us.
@AndrewB221
@AndrewB221 Жыл бұрын
No
@benjaminfalzon4622
@benjaminfalzon4622 Жыл бұрын
Just a piece of old rag with a painting on it.
@beverlyhurd8556
@beverlyhurd8556 Жыл бұрын
Really? And who told you that whopper of a lie? And you fell for it? Goodness. Not too bright, are you? 😏
@benjaminfalzon4622
@benjaminfalzon4622 Жыл бұрын
@@beverlyhurd8556 God told me that! Read Deuteronomy 5:8-9 "KJV."
@beverlyhurd8556
@beverlyhurd8556 Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminfalzon4622 Um, that means that _man_ should not make an idol! Man did not put the image of Jesus on the Shroud. _God_ did! Seriously, you did not know that? Wow. Wow wow wow wow wow.
@beverlyhurd8556
@beverlyhurd8556 Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminfalzon4622 Oh, and Mr. Intelligent? There is no paint on the image of the Shroud at all. Time for you to go back to school and learn something. 🤦‍♂
@benjaminfalzon4622
@benjaminfalzon4622 Жыл бұрын
@@beverlyhurd8556 If you don't know what kind of paint it is, then ask Leonardo DaVinci when you meet him on the other side, It's one of his paintings". Did you read those scriptures I posted? 😅
@spencermontethompsondesmotti
@spencermontethompsondesmotti Жыл бұрын
No its not. He was 33
@mikevarner8944
@mikevarner8944 Жыл бұрын
People if or lord doesn't open the eyes of our understanding very very very few will make the first resurrection,it's not the lost that's being deceived,it's the professing Christians,read the history of the Israelites, the professing Christians or no different, their doing the exact same thing things as they did,even worse,do you have eyes yet can't see ,ears yet can't hear?
@MoorELoQUEENt
@MoorELoQUEENt Жыл бұрын
Um.... Does anyone else's spirit feel unease looking at the man being interviewed?!!! 🤨👀 At the end when he smiles and laughs... I see evil!!!
@beverlyhurd8556
@beverlyhurd8556 Жыл бұрын
You sound sick in the head to me.
@tinareading2162
@tinareading2162 Жыл бұрын
When Jesus rose from the dead he took the cloth from his face and folded and put it where he was laying so that couldn’t be his face.
@tinareading2162
@tinareading2162 Жыл бұрын
Read your bible.
@comfortzkingz9904
@comfortzkingz9904 Жыл бұрын
I'm Worshiping & Believing the Name of JESUS, not the Image.
@arvindvaz6816
@arvindvaz6816 3 ай бұрын
Jesus spoke signifying the death by what death Simon surnamed Peter would glorify God. And when He had spoken this, He said to him, Follow Me. Jn.21:19; Acts.10:5. Catholics says, Simon Peter deemed himself unworthy to die in exactly the same way as his Lord had, and begged his crucifiers to crucify him upside down. Christians: Where does Scriptures say so? Catholics: In Peter's sign of the cross we follow before and after every prayers and at mass. Christians: What is the historical evidence you have that he was crucified? Catholics: We have the veil of Vericonca (his wife), from region of Caesarea Philippi (Matt.16:13-18) with the imprint of his face, we wrapped his body in a clean linen cloth and display it once a year on Passion Sunday (5th Sunday of the lent) which we call it as Shroud of Turin.
@tonyr6365
@tonyr6365 4 ай бұрын
Jesus is God's Son. Jesus was born by the virgin Mary who conceived by God. Jesus never sinned. Jesus was crucified and died for the sins of the world. Jesus's Blood was shed for the forgiveness of sins. Jesus was entombed for three days. Jesus was raised from the dead by God. Jesus left tomb. Jesus was seen by witnesses. Jesus ascended to heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. Jesus will return to the earth. Jesus is Lord. If you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart God has raised Him from the dead you shall be saved. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, Jesus, that any one who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life. God is Love. Eternal life is knowing God forever. Jesus said, "No greater love has one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends." If we confess our sins God is faithful and just to forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Read the New Testament in the Bible to find more about Jesus.
@chinamartin5674
@chinamartin5674 7 ай бұрын
You dont read bible, the Lord was clothed with 2 cloths: 1. Body cloth 2. Face cloth this is not the cloth the lord was covered in, the cloth wasnt one complete cloth, there were 2 cloths, a face cloth was separate, bible doesnt talk about single cloth John 20v6-7...his face was covered in separate cloth, this shroud shows one cloth covering entire body? it contradicts scripture. Face cloth was separate, then remaining cloth covered body. there was no time to wrap the lords body since the Feast of the jews was at hand, lord was wrapped quickly and laid immediately at Garden tomb !!!
@davekanak
@davekanak 6 ай бұрын
it's the Shroud of Jesus Christ...not Turin. The devil knows the best way to shroud the Shroud, and keep the proof of your salvation a secret is to Call it what it ain't.
@comfortzkingz9904
@comfortzkingz9904 Жыл бұрын
If it is the Image of Jesus or not, i don't Care no Problem, Bcoz I don't Worship the Image, But the Name of JESUS CHRIST. Image made by Scientist through DNA, But the name of Jesus made by the Holy Spirit of God.
@Lioness_UTV
@Lioness_UTV Жыл бұрын
As amazing as it is, wasn't it already proven to be from medieval times?
@fogo1832
@fogo1832 Жыл бұрын
No, in the investigation into the shroud (which I think was released through Oxford Uni) they released a short statement that was heavily censored in which they stated the shroud was from medieval times. However, they literally had to be petitioned to release the full report which included findings of pollen samples which were attributed to being from Palestine and dated to 30-50/ A.D, they found fire damage on the shroud that was dated the same as any supposed evidence of medieval forgeries, suggesting a medieval restoration of the shroud due to fire damage. It should be noted that this investigation was led largely by NASA’s jet propulsion laboratory (I don’t know why such an entity was entrusted with researching the shroud but they were), which was founded by thelemite occultist Jack Parsons, and at the of STURP consisted of many with questionable cultist links, reasonable to assume they wanted to make the shroud look like a fake
@Wolffur
@Wolffur 3 ай бұрын
The fire in the 1300s ruined any chance of a successful carbon dating. No matter. The fabric and pollen are completely consistent with those that would've been around during the life of Christ.
@jsvi
@jsvi Жыл бұрын
You died my Christ- let your children now move away from your death and into the real life in God. Why focus on this death that is no more? It was real- but it’s no more. That’s why He left the shroud behind. It is not important. I’m happy science is validating it but faith validates it since it was found.
@stephen5804
@stephen5804 Жыл бұрын
GOD LOVES CONTROVERSY, HE GOT NOT ELSE TO DO. He loves yanking my chain and not helping.
@johnathonwebster5720
@johnathonwebster5720 11 ай бұрын
I was told Jesus was a black man this shroud shows us something very different Its not even Arabic in looks If its not Im thinking its a Knights Templar of status...
@beverlyhurd8556
@beverlyhurd8556 8 ай бұрын
Really? Who was this that told you that Jesus was negro? Was it someone in grade school?
@johnathonwebster5720
@johnathonwebster5720 8 ай бұрын
@@beverlyhurd8556 lol 😆
@jamesbyrne9312
@jamesbyrne9312 Жыл бұрын
Its not real, stop spreading misinformation, and I am saying this as a Catholic.
@jamesbyrne9312
@jamesbyrne9312 Жыл бұрын
This priest must know this.
@jamesbyrne9312
@jamesbyrne9312 Жыл бұрын
Guess he's a fake, spending all his money on sunglasses instead of the poor
@oliveoliveira6020
@oliveoliveira6020 Жыл бұрын
You should pray for more faith
@jamesbyrne9312
@jamesbyrne9312 Жыл бұрын
@olive oliveira I have faith in Jesus, not medieval artifacts. Christianity and Catholicism are not about demonic obsession and historical artifacts, its about faith in Christ and service of others.
@brianfarley926
@brianfarley926 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesbyrne9312 I’ve read on the Shroud the 1988 test has been widely debunked. This image also can’t be remade even with modern technology. It may or may not be from the 1st century however it certainly is not shown to be a fake. So I don’t know what you’re basing your conclusion on, perhaps you’re the one with confirmation bias.
@ray.d.oeaux1230
@ray.d.oeaux1230 Жыл бұрын
Nothing to see here. It's just those mischievous medieval monks making stuff up with their magic X-ray machine.
@jackj5368
@jackj5368 Жыл бұрын
I disagree.
@danielfernandezpeinado6294
@danielfernandezpeinado6294 Жыл бұрын
Their infamous nuclear technology that not even nowadays exists 🤣🤣🤣
@ray.d.oeaux1230
@ray.d.oeaux1230 Жыл бұрын
@@jackj5368 Thanks, Jack. We certainly appreciate your ability to detect such subtle sarcasm.
@xbemos
@xbemos Жыл бұрын
@@ray.d.oeaux1230😂😂😂🎉
@davekanak
@davekanak 6 ай бұрын
Cursed are those who have seen but yet do not Believe. God did not leave the miraculous Sign of Jonah and scientific proof of salvation and resurrection for the believer, but for the non-believer, religious Doubting Thomas Christian and atheist. What pisses me off is all the Quasi Christians who say they Believe, but can't see the proof on the first Atomic Selfie.
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