Is the UAE Funding the Su-75 Checkmate fighter Jet - What Game is This?

[@PilotPhotog]

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[@richardlee5035]

No!!!

[@bobsterclause342]

You know, budget issues used to fix this, but ever since a senile old man tried to annex a country intoan alliance....

[@112deeps]

Just discovered UAE pulled out of the joint venture ! Probably because of US tech ban, sanctions and .. unlikely to make it in time. They have tech from SU 57 with composite and engines will be from SU 57. India has money as it just moved into 5th largest global GDP ranking. India is developing 5th Gen twin engine Already started on initial frames and prospect of building 6th Gen Engines with Rolls Royce with rights to tech

[@jhk8396]

F-4 vs MiG-21 2: Stealth Boogaloo

[@PilotPhotog]

Brilliant!

[@tonyah.960]

@@PilotPhotog SO RIGHT!!!! Outstanding.!!!!!!!!!!.

[@Jmoney422haha]

I rarely comment on anything, but this was damn clever. Take my +1 you beautiful bastard

[@NoName-sb9tp]

You… You smart bastard. Take my like.

[@سیدمحمدمیرباقری-ظ9د]

دست آمریکا درد نکنه بابت F4 🇮🇷♥️

[@benwelch4076]

If their claims are true on capabilities, if their claims are true on price and if they can keep to their claimed time frame to have it ready. Its a lot of ifs, but if the ifs are turned into yeses, than yes it could be a modern Mig-21, if. Excellent video, best one on the Checkmate yet. Cheers.

[@PilotPhotog]

Thank you and agreed - many variables in play, only time will tell.

[@jawarakf]

@@PilotPhotog it will be the future Mig-21 whether it's stealth or just low RCS. Many axis countries need low cost capable fighters to replace their ageing Migs. Only disappointed that this is not from Mikoyan Gurevich that intended to build Mig-41 single engine advanced fighter. It sounds more intimidating with the name Mig

[@kiabtoomlauj6249]

Russia isn't some third world society on the threshold of developing ultra sophisticated fighter jets. It already has some of the most powerful and sophisticated current fighter jets in the world, so building this mid range one isn't beyond their current capabilities. They simply need to upgrade their work on some fabrication processes and coating technologies. Can't fly a 5th gen/stealth jet that screws could be seen from miles away like their Su-57. Anyway, they already know, before even flying the prototype, that there's already a tested jet without true vertical stabilizers (the use of the dual-purpose, "ruddervators"): the YF-23.... so there's zero fear in the incorporation of that 5.5 gen innovation. That likely would make this mid range Checkmate Russian jet AT LEAST as stealthy as the F-22. If they get the coating right, it definitely will be much more stealthy than the F-22, as the YF-23, over-all, was more stealthy than the already exceptionally stealthy F-22, due mainly to the tail part of the jet. Their current issue is to finish their working-in-progress breakthrough/next gen engine, a more efficient, more dependable (in theory) like the Izdeliye 30. In 3-5 years, when that's finished and thoroughly tested, their next gen top jets will be on par with the West, from engine to over-all stealth features. China is the country "on the cusp" of being able to churn out truly top end fighter jets. Up to now, 95% of their work's mostly siphoned off/reverse engineered Soviet technologies. Once they started flying their up-coming B-2 like stealth bombers, in operational modes --- the fast ones with YF-23 ruddervator tail ends as well as the more conventional flying wing bombers --- then we know China, too, has joined the US, Russia, France, Britain, and Japan as nations able to build top end fighter jets and bombers. So far, their first gen of their "5th gen stealth" jets are questionable, at best, as true 5th gen stealth jets.

[@markopodganjek845]

@@jawarakf mig 41 is mythical plane. It is always plane of the next decade.

[@jawarakf]

@@markopodganjek845 Mikoyan Gurevich aircraft sales too bad that they don't have funds to start any new fighter programme. Russian ministry of defence had to buy some Mig-29/35 just to keep Mikoyan Gurevich business afloat. Mig-29/35 sales revenue is lower than Sukhoi design bureau that still made profit from Su-27/30/35 sales and China high payout for reverse engineering & unofficial technology transfer. That's how Sukhoi took over small medium fighter business away from Mikoyan Gurevich

[@bdh985]

Once again, great inital analysis of this aircraft. While I am skeptical that this plane will reach all of its performance and production goals, the Russians have always built formidable aircraft, that should not be underestimated.

[@besher532]

a great mind is all it takes to make or break there goal, lets take the space race for example, the head of most space project in the Soviet union died around the middle of the race, after they lost that 1 man they struggled to the point that most projects got stuck and they lost the space race, even though they did everything but land on the moon first

[@TrungNguyen-uf8cv]

Nah, Russian fighter jets between Mig 21 and Su-27 were rather lost causes

[@jovantatic3907]

@@besher532 pretty sure they didnt die, just russian space agency stopped being funded because khrushchev didnt want to waste millions for a mission towards the moon, but he spent it towards agriculture and building houses.

[@Homoprimatesapiens]

If the Russians always have built formidable fighter a.c., why are you sceptical that it will reach its intended goals?

[@WiFuzzy]

Great analysis of things you can't prove and in reality know almost nothing about. Its a pointless topic..

[@tonyah.960]

Brilliant video my KZbin friend. Keep up the "EXTREMELY-IMPRESSIVE" work on the show.

[@tonyah.960]

Its cost looks low. I think it goes to be $100,000,000 dollars jet. It go to had a hard time in a fight with F-22 or F-35.

[@PilotPhotog]

Thank you Tonya, much appreciated!

[@sidharthcs2110]

an Augmented reality HMD is in development for the SU 57. They might integrate it with Checkmate. Unlike the F 35 , which is a completely different concept and machine compared to F 22 , Russia seems to Develop the Checkmate as a single engine SU 57. I think that's why the ambitious timeline is given. Most of the technologies are already developed for the SU 57

[@stevekirby7333]

What is an augmented reality HUD? Since it doesn’t head track the best you could do would be to overlay imagery within the FOV. I made HUDs with raster scan and the ability to overlay FLIR and other imagery back in the ‘80s.

[@sidharthcs2110]

@@stevekirby7333 May be I said it wrong. I meant to say something similar to the HMD on the F 35

[@OrtonHeadXIV]

Cockpit, sensors, engine are pretty much the same so this timeline kind of makes sense, but as with all 5th gen projects delays are an inevitable thing .

[@thomashodge7692]

Dude Russia has one SU 57, 3 more they hope to field. give me a break you will buy any BS propaganda Russia sells you.

[@1mrzealot1]

@@thomashodge7692 знаешь ли в России вероятно считают что самолёт нужно полностью доделать, а не наблюдать за авариями как американцы со своим ф 35.. плюс не говоря уже про то что боевых задач под су 57 на данный момент нет, так зачем их партиями по несколько сотен торопиться клепать.

[@WATP-1872]

If it goes into production at that price the US and UK should consider ordering them as well lol 😂

[@sonniedae6398]

What better aggressor aircraft could you get XD

[@johncalmerin6689]

That is dumb because US already has this and its working plane, its called Boeing X-32.

[@sonniedae6398]

@@johncalmerin6689 that's a prototype that doesn't fly anymore it was a plane that was made alongside the F-35 in a competition and ended up losing to the F-35 Also just because they look similar they should not be confused as even remotely the same aircraft

[@johncalmerin6689]

@@sonniedae6398 It flew and is a real plane, not like this paper concept. 1 project cost billions and couple of decades of refining. This is basically a go fund me scheme to lure investment.

[@sonniedae6398]

@@johncalmerin6689 I'm not saying it didn't fly I'm saying it doesn't as in the US doesn't use it Secondaly they're still two different planes with completely different ideas behind them Besides the original comment was just a joke anyway

[@phillm156]

Every time I see the Felon, I see a Flounder.

[@AndreasConfirmed]

Izdelie in Russian simply means "product". Usually they use this term (plus random numbers) for classified projects.

[@nathanzhou9662]

The Su-75's design is what could have happened if Boeing actually tried to make the X-32 look good.

[@AugmentedGravity]

Implying this is good looking

[@unapersona8352]

I just checked 32 out and damm boi he thicc

[@kingdomofprussia9749]

@@AugmentedGravity for me it is

[@AugmentedGravity]

@@kingdomofprussia9749 :(

[@paulgage7495]

To me it looks like a combination of the F-35, X-32 and the YF-23. Almost like they stole parts of individual planes and made a mashup. US fighter planes will be using more advanced thrust vectoring in the future though so they steal ideas as well.

[@cte4dota]

If they deliver what they claim it would be great plane especially for smaller nations with less money like mine Serbia already interested in this plane..

[@Anlushac11]

IMHO, yes. I fully believe the Su-75 is intended to replace aging fleets of MiG-2X's, SU-2x's, etc. It doesn't have to be a world beater, it just needs to be zero hour airframes, easy to maintain and operate, and bring modern features to the market. If the SU-75 is a sales success and uses same cockpit as SU-57 then it could help with economy of scale making buying and building SU-57 cockpits to become cheaper. It doesnt look like anything is new or developing technology so the development cost should be relatively low. A number of countries prefer twin engine designs for carriers since if one engine fails over water you at least have a second engine to get home.

[@outatime626]

Russia has a history of exaggerating and a recent history of cost overruns and failing to field weapon in the numbers and capabilities they want. I would say it is highly unlikely that the Checkmate will be a match for the F-35, especially since the F-35 is out now and being fielded in significant numbers whereas the Su-75 is barely past conception. It may accelerate the obsolescence of the F-16, F-15, and F/A-18 though, which may be the true value of this plane in actuality. That would all depend on how many planes they can actually field and how stealthy it is along with the Su-57, the J-20, and the J-35.

[@moby1kanob]

It does not matter it is all built on reverse engineered old USA tech. The USA is always about 20 years ahead of the rest of the world on military Tech across the board. Its not even close. The new China stealth fighters coming out are 20-30 years behind the new stealth jets and Raider Bomber that the USA is about to put out not to mention the superior Raptor and f-35. Its funny how badly people want to believe non USA militaries are catching up, but they just arent. That is the benefit of having the largest military budget by over 10 times of any other country. I think the next 10 countries after USA combined dont have the same budget for military R&D and spending as the USA

[@deaconvelos8352]

I'm curious to see if they can pull this off seeing as how the SU-57 hasn't even left the prototype phase yet

[@Ben-jr6vl]

Su57 has been used in actual combat

[@deaconvelos8352]

@@Ben-jr6vl lobbing missiles over the border from Russia doesn't count as no actual combat took place

[@falkkiwiben]

I think the SU-57 has to be put into perspective. The Russian Federation is not the Soviet Union, they have way less resources to work with and can't spend money in the way the west or china can. It has half the economy of Germany, yet they were still able with help of their soviet design legacy to design a much greater aircraft than any actual contemporary nations. By accepting the myth Russian propaganda has put out that they are still as mighty as the USSR was, we forget what country we're actually talking about. Now the military has had to switch focus completely, seemingly without any warning from up above. Money spent on making the SU-57 work is much more effectivly spent on other things right now. I'm faaar from any kind of expert, but I can forsee that if any are finished the SU-57s will be used to compliment mig-31s in a more defensive area-denial and missile-launching role.

[@barefootbreezy6983]

@@Ben-jr6vl su57 has seen nothing but failures.

[@YossefMan-hg9cz]

There is already 50 su 57 and new su 57m will be in serial production in 2025 This according to russian sources

[@MrZaricnak]

...this proposal has not aged well...😂

[@daan1847]

You deserve more subs. I have been following you for 1 year now. You are like my KZbin Wikipedia for airforce stuff

[@PilotPhotog]

Thank you, and I am glad you find value in my videos - I'll keep producing more content!

[@jonseilim4321]

Regarding the second fifth generation Chinese fighter referred to in this video, just call it the FC-31 Gyrfalcon. The "J" prefix is reserved exclusively for fighters adopted into the People's Liberation Army Air Force, whilst the "FC" stands for "Fighter (China)" and is reserved for export fighters like the FC-1 Xiaolong, also known as JF-17 Thunder

[@PilotPhotog]

Thanks for the clarification!

[@ankurrsoni8648]

But jf-17 is pakistani aircraft 😄

[@dykatran]

As far as I know, half of countries that Mr. Yury Borisov mentioned don't have money to throw into a 'build-from-scratch' project like this, they prefer buying weapons whose performances have been proven in reality. And that timeline is way too optimist.

[@Silver_Prussian]

That means they are not ready to buy us planes also

[@dykatran]

@@Silver_Prussian you probably misunderstood my opinion. Those countries has BEEN regular customers of Russian defense companies since the beginning, so of course US planes aren't on their bucket list now. The thing is Russia has accepted different kinds of payment instead of money to help them have changes of buying Russian weapons, for example: Vietnam bought SU-30MK2 by paying money and agricultural products. What Sukhoi initiating with SU-75 is the Russian worse version of Joint Strike Fighter program, because Russian Air Force hasn't needed this jet yet, funding for SU-75 heavily depends on foreign customers' real money. IMO only India and Turkey have this kind of money now.

[@Silver_Prussian]

@@dykatran i dont know why everyone is trying to develop multi-role fighers so early, technology still needs more advancements before we are ready to make efficient multi-role fighters thats jist my opinion, the f-22 it costs 200 million thats just one unit, i dont know why the russians are developing that figher it seems very unnececery, they should focus on the su-57 making more units and improving it and also they were developing a mig-41 that looks preaty real from all images on google

[@07_danishwistara29]

@@Silver_Prussian well you have to start somewhere

[@egnerozo1160]

Algeria, Nigeria, Egypt, Angola, Morocco, Tanzania, Mozambican, Kenya … are potential buyers…

[@bluemarlin8138]

LOL at the Krembots and vatniks thinking that this thing will ever be anything more than a cardboard model.

[@MrAwsomenoob]

I seriously doubt anything substantial is going to really come from this. Lets not forget that the Su-57 is STILL in testing and only 12 of them have been made. Meanwhile about 700 f-35s are in operational service. Not to mention the Us itself hasn't had the best track record with developing, making, and deploying stealth aircraft. So if the Us has trouble with it, then what chance does Russia have? My prediction is they make a good dozen prototypes, spend about 15 years in development only to have it go nowhere then give up and buy the latest model of the Su 30.

[@flightmaster1213]

Honestly yeah, I feel the same

[@eastafrika728]

Looks like it is an ACE pilot who helped in the design of this aircraft. It is designed and built for speed, better management of G forces and minimization of drag, by the design, it can also dip and rise quicker than all combat aircraft out there, it's slimmer than the F22, faster than the F35 and can make a vertical takeoff. The nose size and shape suggests a longer range on board radar system. This just might be, the dominant fighter jet of the future. It looks like it is designed to defeat the F22 in air to air combat.

[@SephirothRyu]

I would not be surprised if it had top-mounted secondary inlets that are used for the takeoff and then closed (switching to the main inlet at that time). I have heard that at least some soviet aircraft use this so as to not require a nice clean runway to take off (otherwise you risk sucking debris into the engine), and including a feature like this on the new aircraft would definitely help it appeal to many of their potential markets.

[@moby1kanob]

no those are USA jets. Russian jets are generations (multiple) behind what the USA has to offer, its not close. The most recent war makes that Painfully obvious.

it's MIG 29

[@unclefester831]

Loving the look of the checkmate. The Su-57 is a nice 5th generation fighter but the checkmate looks even nicer👍

[@ashipthattriestobotheryou4759]

X-32: SCREW YOU LOCKHEED MARTIN! IM JOINING IVANS!

[@munkfish101]

They can’t even get the SU-57 into production lol

[@thepilotman5378]

And it flies twice the speed of light! Also, the video states the airframe can handle up to 8gs, which suggests the actual g rating is much lower (I.e 6g)

[@Eagle_the_18th]

Why do you need stealth technology when the plane can travel faster than even light itself 🤣?

[@thepilotman5378]

@@Eagle_the_18th exactly, I also heard that Captain Picard will be at the helm

[@shibusu4173]

@Ryan Kiesow Tomcat maximum operational G load is around 6, and absolute structural ~10G. If you pull 10G in a tomcat however, your wings will have a very large amount of accidental dihedral added to them, and the aircraft will have to be sent off for scrap or months in repair.

[@Zhonguoria]

With just one engine, this is designed as a low-cost export option, compared with the SU-27 class.

[@92HazelMocha]

Fun fact; that price tag is only 3M more than the price tag of a mint Su27.

[@sumanchatterjee6591]

problem is russian claims are just that.. People shouldn’t confuse themselfs between russia and ussr

[@oicfas4523]

8:20 Service ceiling of only 40,000 ft? What? That can't be right. Most fighters these days go up to 50-60k easily.

[@jamesmiller2735]

Western analyst's often makes mistakes while analysing Russian products, the tend to try to confuse us with some parameters which would in their own mind confuse us about it's quality or capability, having said that I would give my reason for pointing this out and it's simply because the ratio of currency conversion from Russian ruble to dollar is currently 1:7.2 which means that 1 USD equals to 72 Russian rubles so this gives Russia a competitive advantage over the United States on production cost so a wise analyst can't simply tell an audience that price would be the reason why sukhoi 75 will be inferior to it's Western counterparts, secondly Russia has a vast territory and therefore has most of the resources required for manufacturing most of this things in it's territory or in former Soviet republics so this implies that most of the materials needed are acquired at a cheaper and less strenuous cost, Those who tend to play down the potency of Russian inventory knows all this and yet tend to either lie, deflect,cover, confuse,play down, sideline or even dismiss Russian products entirely simply because the are afraid of competition, If Russian military and civilian inventory are so poor why put pressure on other countries not to buy it, This are the questions that wise people need to ask you don't believe something because someone said it we are human beings and therefore should exercise our power of thought.

[@rachitgames3723]

Su-30mki is the backbone of Indian Air force not mig-21

[@nupagadii5834]

Indeed, but it was Indian Bison shooting Pakistani F-16 block 52.....

[@DefaultProphet]

Under 30 mil? Yeah okay sure

[@nx1379]

I am sure it will cost under 30mil...i doubt it will do ANYTHING they claim it will do🤣

[@OrtonHeadXIV]

30 mill is for the aircraft alone I'm guessing, logistics, spare parts, support and maintenance system, ground facilities, training will bump that up for sure

[@Gunni1972]

@@OrtonHeadXIV Even if it eventually costs 50 millions: If it does, what it says on the tin, it is a worthy replacement of just about every single engined fighter of the eighties. Not sure if it will replace a Mig-29. Outperforming a twin engine plane's climb rate for example would be nearly impossible. But that is something required for fast, long range Missile shots. Stealth planes in general suggest, Dogfighting is dead. And i am not so sure about that.

[@RivalD666]

Funding it? And who is going to build it? A country that cant even import laptops? lol

[@MrSarkardip]

Excellent Video. One of the best impartial and professional analysis that I have seen on Checkmate. I just come across this video and immediately subscribed to your channel. Keep up the good work.

[@PilotPhotog]

Thank you so much! I try to present the information I gather from my research and then let the viewer decide.

[@fredtedstedman]

She's gorgeous !! A beautiful clean looking design - I hope they produce it . Similar to F-36 Kingsnake configuration ?? anyone ?

[@AnIndianPatriot]

They surely will, coz there is a possibility that some country may show interest on this aircraft.

[@ktwei]

The plane they built praying someone will buy. Let's hope it can be a checkmate & not own goal.

[@stealth225]

I don't think so India will buy the fighter (AMCA) and same with Turkey (TF-X) On regards of planned service of 2026 , to my knowledge the RuAF isn't buying it... yet, there has been some talk cutting Su-57 line and embracing the checkmate

[@stealth225]

Another thing Cost of the Checkmate is sort of a misconception, the cost for a foreign sale will be much more, for example cost of Su-35 is around 85 million ( for sale purposes)

[@koustubhjain6789]

Didn't the AMCA get canceled or something? Thenames are quite confusing

[@stealth225]

@@koustubhjain6789 AMCA is still continuing

[@milosmilictrob2046]

@@stealth225 that number of 85 million is including weapons and crew training, real price of Su-35 is some 30-40 million USD.

[@sum9796]

@@koustubhjain6789 AMCA is In 2nd phase of development. The scraped project was FGFA which was to be jointly developed by India Russia. But India pulled out as Terms and condition was not favourable for India.

[@pompaompa3380]

great video as always! well, the 30 million price tag seems kinda impractical, and might just be the baseline cost, especially since Russia is developing its next-gen ccm and mrm, meaning extra costs for countries that are already operating older Russian platforms, and would also require other payments for infrastructure and training, also its maintenance cost would make its baseline cost impractical. also, the export potential of the fighter seems quite low, since the Indian Air Force has said that they won't procure any foreign fifth-gen platform and would go for the indigenous AMCA, and HAL is supposed to roll out the first prototype in 2024, Turkey has also started the construction of its TFX, and both of these countries have already procured s400 systems and have the sword of CAATSA on their heads, where Turkey is already facing the heat, so the most likely operator of the fighter seem to be Vietnam and African countries like Nigeria and Algeria, and even in these (African) countries, China has been increasing its reach and Nigeria recently procured the jf-17, and seem to be more likely to go for the fc-31, all in all, nothing can be clearly said at the moment, and we have to wait and watch

[@MrSarkardip]

I think Sukhoi mentioned that 30 million price tag is for the basic version. Depending on complexities and add-ons the price could go as high as 48 million USD. Its a smart business strategy by Sukhoi. Decide on what you want based on your budget and we will custom build the aircraft for you.

[@SephirothRyu]

Eh, even if cost overruns place it in the 50 mil range for a base version (+10-20 more for the optional features), that is still delivering a comparatively affordable aircraft. It is definitely worth wondering what the maintenance costs and down times between flights will be. The SAAB Gripen is known as being one of the best cost-to-performance fighter in the world for reasons other than its initial pricetag after all.

[@Ob1sdarkside]

If they pull it off, it will be pretty cheap for that type of aircraft. The new types of stealth aircraft all look very similar, everyone is copying the U.S.

[@Kou-bz4kb]

I mean an F-35 did go missing over Japan. (Don't know if it's found or not)

[@randompheidoleminor3011]

It's more because there's only so many shapes you can make that are stealthy, like how sharks and dolphins have the same streamlined shape

[@robertcolajezzi5273]

@@randompheidoleminor3011 deff agree ppl dont realize designing these planes have limits so of course many will look similiar to a degree just like prop fighter planes of WWll mostly all have that same basic design like the bf109 spitfires hurricanes mustang etc...

[@Bagas-114]

Can you do the KF-21 Boramae from South Korea as well? The F-22 lookalike is quite interesting to be discuss

[@taneeshajackson1817]

TAI TF-X from turkey looks like a f22 too

[@ryanestes7331]

@@taneeshajackson1817 I'm a bit more optimistic about the south Korean offering

[@dayytube]

Excellent job PilotphotoG in the collation of data and the graphics in this video.

[@PilotPhotog]

Thank you much appreciated!

[@tipoomaster]

If the Su-57 isn't impressive stealth wise and only lands in low fourth gen RCS territory, I don't see that this is going to be much better with likely far less funding and a lower unit cost. Seems like promising a cheap stealth jet in the hopes that someone like India will fund it but will probably underwhelm like most Russian systems recently. India should just double down on making sure Tejas MK2 and AMCA are good and on time.

[@AuroraAustralis_]

Personally, I'll draw a conclusion when I see it fly.

[@Xeemix]

We already have a mig-21 of the 21st century, its called the JF-17, straight from the enhanced chinese Mig-21 program, which comes in at half the cost of a F-16.

[@TheGranicd]

Its 4th gen.

[@vikkushnarov5807]

As a Ukrainian, I recommend you do not believe what they say, but only believe what you see for yourself. Russians tend to lie to intimidate you. And you see that they are not able to independently produce electronics for these aircraft due to sanctions. They will have neither the means nor the opportunity to make more than a wooden model out of this template.

[@benkollerman7944]

Jet intake must be located at the top both sides of the aft cockpit to attain straight air flow to the engine, main wings must be on the mid section of the fuselage to accommodate more fuel and armaments and main landing gears.

[@nemec-777]

Сколько классов образования у тебя?

[@GeeShocker]

A straight air duct is not stealthy as the fan blades are exposed.

[@mikehankins4513]

They never fielded a working su57,I doubt this one will fair any better.

[@TheFlanker47]

Best Su-75 video in youtube, congratulation. Please, do Mig-31.

[@PilotPhotog]

Thank you and let me see what I can find on the MiG-31

[@marcbrasse747]

Excellent, comprehensive video. You put all the question marks where they belong. The potential market is huge but the road towards actually fullfiling such a need is long.

[@PilotPhotog]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video!

[@garrypuatu5620]

Beautiful jet.yes mig 21 of 21st century.the legend is back.super fighter

[@chunkblaster]

any opinions on the recently revealed MiG Mockups of their upcoming projects? one looks strikingly similar to the old soviet era MiG 1.44

[@Military_Buzz]

Chances of India buying checkmate are very low because India is developing indigenous Amca 5th gen and is going to have its first flight in 2024 👍

[@spartanx9293]

I have a feeling this thing is going to turn into a 4.5 gen fighter I'm not ragging on India but they are still relatively new to aircraft development they still heavily rely on exports

[@Military_Buzz]

@@spartanx9293 well yes but we were developing our indigenous ecosystem for very long time and we won't buy won't foreign jets in future becoz now we have got many complex aero techs and we already have started developing them , we not tht new though

[@Bein9Silly]

@@spartanx9293 India already have a 4.5 gen fighter its the tejas AMCA is going to be 5.5 gen but some of the component will be initially foregin made

[@spartanx9293]

@@Bein9Silly the Tejas does not qualify as a 4.5 gen at least not technologically it's basically just another fourth gen then again it depends on how you define it the whole generation system is incredibly complicated 5th gen originally just came into existence as a marketing term for Lockheed Martin

[@Bein9Silly]

@@spartanx9293 There is two versions of tejas the tejas mk1 and tejas mk1a the mk1a is 4.5 and a new tejas mk2 is under development

[@phillmaltese757]

Does anyone else love the names that Russian federation gives names to their planes

[@3721-t1t]

Not really. Checkmate is kind of an odd name considering we know which plane is more advanced.

[@phillmaltese757]

@@3721-t1t that makes no sense. I said I love the names it gives. U say it's a old name.. not care just love the name

[@3721-t1t]

@@phillmaltese757 no i meant the name sounds overly confident

[@phillmaltese757]

@@3721-t1t agreed

[@thetopsecretpentagonsclass6350]

Nope, their names are sick. I like US & European names based on actual thing.

[@giggling_boatswain]

As everyone probably knows, STEALTH design makes an airplane bad in flight. Many important characteristics have to be sacrificed. The Russians wisely decided with the SU-57 - they made using STEALTH technology only from the front hemisphere, retaining all the outstanding flight qualities + super-maneuverability. Russian radars still see all STEALTH aircraft. So don't make a log with wings. STEALTH can and should be used, but without prejudice to flight performance. The Russian school assumes its own vision of modern air combat and preference is given to high flight characteristics and moderate use of STEELS, the Americans decided that the key to victory was low radar signature and sacrificed flight performance. But since foreigners like low radar visibility, no problem, the Russians have made SU-75 with STEALS technology for sale (demand creates supply - the law of trade). The manufacturer expressed the hope that the Russian armed forces will also show interest in this aircraft. That is, the Russian Ministry of Defense did not give a technical task and did not order such an aircraft, which means it was developed on the own initiative of the Sukhoi plant only for sale to poor countries. This step is more than reasonable in my opinion.

[@spartanx9293]

Thrust vectoring is not very important when it comes to flight characteristics especially when they're only really important when you're in a postal maneuver if you were ever in a position where you are about to stall your aircraft you have f***** up royally and you are probably going to be shot down

[@spitfire12able]

i think it will be successful if they can get the engine issues fixed and produced in high numbers, its definitely got the potential too be the modern replacement for the mig21

[@moisesdosramos7529]

Nice vid as always. thanks for sharing

[@PilotPhotog]

Thank you glad you enjoyed it!

[@mfromaustralia1]

This video could be updated by taking into account the design changes in the 2nd half of 2023. Such as the new tails, wing changes and perhaps most importantly, the new more powerful and more economical Izdeliye 30 engine pumping out through the new rectangular thrust vectoring exhaust nozzle.

[@juanarce6900]

Not entirely a fifth gen. aircraft, from our western perspective; time will tell if the russians did their homework right. Thanks for another great video Juan.

[@pienter593]

Or copied it? xD

[@PilotPhotog]

Thank you Juan, glad you enjoyed it and you are right - time will tell!

[@Mr.T-SI]

So which 5th gen feature is supposedly missing?

[@juanarce6900]

@@Mr.T-SI It lacks the camera system on the nose that allows the pilot to see downwards through the floor of the aircraft.

[@Mr.T-SI]

@@juanarce6900 Just because LM brochure for F35 advertises something that doesn't mean that is what defines 5th gen .It's like claiming that F35 is not gen five because it doesn't supercruise ( which was by the way one of the core 5th gen defining features early on) or that F22 is not 5th gen because it lacks a bunch of features F35 has,,gen 5 is loose enough definition .

[@Deathbomb9]

The USSR and now Russia have always had a habit of making wildly exorbitant claim and over stated specifications on almost everything it has ever made since the end of WWII. Just look at the T-90, T-14, Su-57, and many other military projects. They claim the Su-57 has so many sensor systems in it and this and that but cant even finish the engines. And the 3D-TV on these jets is limited to a small range side to side with the tail design. The effects will be negligible at best. At worst it causes damage to the skin or puts the jet into a spin. It's totally unknown if the Felon has systems that rival or mirror the F-22. It's also not even in direct service and still basically in testing. Can the plane correct a flat spin with zero input from the pilot? Can it monitor itself and reduce the load on the pilot? Or is it like every other jet where flying is the first thing the pilot is doing and fighting is second? Also, the true capability of the F-22 is top secret. Theres so little real data onnit that you couldn't possibly build a jet to fight it because missing one possible thing means you now have a gaping hole in your strategy and the Raptor will find and exploit it if it comes to punches. The F-35 is a quarterback in the skies, a bit like the F-22. They can designate targets through data link and then an F-15 with its heavy load of 22 missiles can just pull a hard climb and lob AIM-120s or anything else in the arsenal over the horizon. The team up of planes is what makes the F-35 so dangerous in the skies. It's hard to spot, hard to find, hard to defeat, and should you succeed, you're gonna have an bunch of Strike Eagles or even 15EXs that are going to wreck you. Even the Felon only has a reduced RCS and it's not true stealth. That wasnt taken into account as a requirement for the plane. The design is stealthy due to its shape and CAD dimensions. But it has no ROC and several factors make it ping on radar. Its RCS might be smaller than the plane, but it's still much larger than the RCS of the F-22 or F-35. And I have a feeling this one when complete will also be bigger than those.

[@Unix2816]

US: Makes F35 Russia: Imma do whats called a pro gamer move

[@TyrannoJoris_Rex]

Kinda is with all the time and money they save on previously-uncharted research

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

Radar picks up vertical lines really well like a normal tail on a plane for example. That's why you won't see one on a stealth plane. Vertical lines that is. Cheers for the upload.

[@PilotPhotog]

Indeed and thanks for commenting!

[@johnbodman4504]

I think this plane will be a real success for Russia. They already have developed a lot of its technology in the su-57 and the plan to use their new engine, which is essential for the performance. It will be faster and more maneuverable than the f-35 and a lot cheaper, it will make a great small brother to the su-57.

[@justinstrong9595]

Not only will it not be cheaper it will definitely not be more maneuverable lmao

[@zacharyjones1285]

Faster and more menuverable is yet to be seen. The f35 is getting engine upgrades which increases its thrust, heat reduction, range, acceleration, and efficiency! They are also adding more room to house more missles within the weapons bay! They are also upgrading electronics, radar ect... by 2027

[@derekcraig3617]

What? they haven't even demonstrated anything with the prototype yet. let alone put it in production. Funny how everyone is just glossing over the fact that the Russians are 20 years behind us in development and how they are copying our designs

[@justinstrong9595]

@@derekcraig3617 that's literally exactly what I said

[@derekcraig3617]

@@justinstrong9595 go back and read what you wrote

[@enevvv]

Deceivers. You don't have an airplane, you only have cartoons.

[@Lucifer-wd7gh]

Excellent analysis. 👍 Honestly speaking, India came out of Su 57 project because of its engines. Report says that engines are not fully ready yet and Russians having bad time to develop more modern reliable engines. India operates mostly Russian fighter jets in huge number, after sales service of these engines are poor. Russian aircrafts cost much less but maintenance service cost is higher than Western products. Engines of Su 30MKI and Mig 29 are not reliable enough and not combat ready on time. Slowly India shifting it's move to buy fighters from western countries. India also planning to make 5th generation fighter for thier own use. I am sure they will not go with checkmate.

[@thetopsecretpentagonsclass6350]

Came out of its engine??? But I talked to many engineers of HAL who developing AMCA during Aero India, they said Sukhoi SU-57 have no proper stealth features, very high IR signature of engines even with supercruise, poor view cockpit, very large RCS as compare to F-35, less capable missile, they also said its gonna be disaster to buy because we have change its entire electronics & weapon system like Sukhoi SU-30MKI.

[@kaz9242]

i dont understand what makes indians think they can make a fighter that the russians or chinese cant

[@SachinHari1993]

@@kaz9242 you have to try first. Then only you will suceed.

[@little_error295]

@@thetopsecretpentagonsclass6350 lol you really made shit up and ran with it 😂

[@thetopsecretpentagonsclass6350]

@@little_error295 😂 lol, people like you don't know about anything but ready defend Russia.

[@Rob-vv5yn]

Well I’m doubtful they will be selling production fighters by 2026, the only thing holding them back is when a factory is funding its own projects rather than a project commissioned by the government there is always going to compromises. That said I don’t see any issues, where did you get that maximum ceiling of 40k feet seems rather low.

[@blenheimmayhem]

I was never a huge russian aircraft fan but this is one bad ass plane

[@moby1kanob]

It does not matter it is all built on reverse engineered old USA tech. The USA is always about 20 years ahead of the rest of the world on military Tech across the board. Its not even close. The new China stealth fighters coming out are 20-30 years behind the new stealth jets and Raider Bomber that the USA is about to put out not to mention the superior Raptor and f-35. Its funny how badly people want to believe non USA militaries are catching up, but they just arent. That is the benefit of having the largest military budget by over 10 times of any other country. I think the next 10 countries after USA combined dont have the same budget for military R&D and spending as the USA

[@strategosopsikion8576]

I find it difficult to believe that it could achieve all of its set goals. Price, quality, and speed are the factors of production. Only two can ever be achieved and it seems Russia is trying to go for all three. I highly doubt that the final airframes will go for the 30 million. Even 60 million is pushing IMO.

[@testboga5991]

The less a plane is built, the easier it is to announce it's supposed capabilities

[@MrSarkardip]

Actually this plane is derived from SU57 in so many aspects. So R &D costs are much less as compared to something developed from scratch. Take the case of Engine. It's the same idylze30 used on SU57. Most of its stealth related components are derived from SU57. So are its avionics, weapon package, maintenance software etc. Only the real R &D went into airframe which is radically different from SU57. So Russians had a point when they talk of price competitiveness of this plane considering its single engine. Also 30 million is the price of basic variant. Depending on add-ons it could go up to 48 million as they said. It's really tailor made with middle and low income countries as target customer. It's really not for Russia with its vast border where single engine aircraft is not an option unless you go for huge numbers

[@spartanx9293]

If they push it past 70 if the nation in question they're trying to export to has the option they might as well buy the F-35 I mean there's not even a cost advantage at that point

[@dariozanze4929]

30 millions for base fighter is a realistic price. It's basically a very cheap fighter with stealthy slim frame and a good engine. All it has going in it's favor is it's speed and reduced RCS, which make it better at surviving on the battlefield, but it's really not going to be good for intercepting enemy planes.

[@strategosopsikion8576]

@@MrSarkardip I see your point about the R&D mostly being covered. I just have a really hard time with seeing it cost so little. 30-48 million seems really low for a stealth aircraft. It would have to be super basic to reach that price point. I seriously doubt that it could truly “checkmate” the F35 and the like. The dollars just don’t add up in my mind.

[@EscipionCL]

Magnifico diseño, felicitaciones Rus.

[@RMASUPERFLY]

Dear Checkmate, We are still unfinished, still having engine, frame, radar problems and we are rarer than Bigfoot. Don't get your hopes up. - Felon

[@frederiquevanhoutte2942]

I believe in its design

[@SteveAkaDarktimes]

Well, this aged like milk.

[@AKlover]

Is the 3D thrust vectoring set up lighter than just doing A 2D thrust vectoring setup???? I understand the weight penalty of thrust vectoring to be noteworthy.

[@TheGranicd]

It is needed in this plane. Has been said that triming is done by it,since no surfaces seen like on other planes for the job.

[@AKlover]

@@TheGranicd IIRC canards give A give A disproportionately large radar return.

[@caleblarsen5490]

I don't think it would be much more of a weight penalty than 2D. Who knows though?

[@AKlover]

@@caleblarsen5490 F-16 VISTA was the round about same weight roughly as the later Block 50s.

[@Mr.T-SI]

@@TheGranicd It has horizontal control surfaces between the vertical ones, should be enough for trim purposes

[@susanartigas7498]

Love your videos. Lots of good information. Thank you.

[@timtitus5002]

The Checkmate can never be a mig 21 anolog as the mig 21 was a roll built aircraft that turned out to be masterful vs built to counter another fighter that came out 10+ years before it.

[@77leny]

best CG plane i have seen in my life :))))))

[@catfood_03_4stray]

Whether it will have the success of the MiG-21 or not depends on India. If India chooses the plane and the Russians set up an assembly line there then the prospects of a high proportion value for money aircraft would be very good.

[@atomic_s0n1]

I think we might buy a few but we are persuing our own stealth plane called the AMCA

[@ChinmayKalapur]

Also russian planes have a lot of reliability issues. Especially the engines on the mig-29K. So unlikely that we may buy any. And we need new planes soon. We can't wait till 2026, that too for an untested project. We lost money investing in Su-57 and if policy makers have any sense they are not gonna fall for the same cheap trick twice.

[@TheDarkangelKx]

That is a nice 3d model, well uv mapped and textured. Good job 👏

[@PilotPhotog]

Thank you very much!

[@Mr_Fission]

Good video. But this plane is pure vaporware. Will never be built in meaningful numbers, and will never work out its kinks due to low deployment rates and combat usage.

[@bigearl3867]

"IF" can be a very big word. My popcorn is ready.

[@arkadious9320]

A lot of huge IF's. Honestly I am going to say no. . Russian radar and avionics / sensor fusion is even further behind the US than their engine tech is. I'm guessing it might make what was to be considered a 5th acft in 10 or so years. . but not before. Just around the time the new 6th gen US acft is publicly flying. Def a mix between 2 US 5th gen prototypes that were not chosen for production.

[@ignacio3890]

Lol... THE RUSSIAN N036 RADAR ARE AHEAD THE US ONES AND THE SU57 IT'S THE FIRST FIGTHER WITH A I.A ASSISTANT WHO ARE AHEAD OF THE USA IN SENSOR FUSION AND THE IDZ30 IT'S THE FIRST VCE IN SERVICE. THE USA IT'S ONLY IN PROPAGANDA

[@sammcbride2464]

I think the reference to the Boeing X-35 is spot on.

[@hitendhiman838]

5th gen Mig 21 right here. Tho izdeliya 30 engine should give it a very high thrust to weight ratio. It should be pretty good in BVR and it looks more stealthier than su 57. This vid might be the first vid I have seen on the checkmate which is actually not biased and is quite informative.

[@PilotPhotog]

Thank you much appreciated! I try to present the information as is and let the viewer draw their own conclusions.

[@PSC4.1]

Out perform? It better have vtol capabilities, if it does then yes this design does it flawlessly making it able to take off in any environment almost adversary like to the Gripen which can take off from paved highways the vtol function can allow it to take off from any flat ground surface except sand.

[@Zetler]

The Chinese will have a fleet of this before the Russians can afford a single plane.

[@Silver_Prussian]

A fleet of flying air targets

[@jeffjohnson6709]

I'd say it's safe to say this has put on the back burner.

[@rikrayarcade]

I was thinking of it too it's cheap and it's a single engine fighter made by Russia after a long time 🤔🤔🤔 after , MiG-21 , MiG-23 & MiG-27 BTW very informative video , well done and thanks for the info 👍🏻👌🏻👏🏻

[@lancewood1410]

Is the current air intake design sufficient to feed air into the engine?

[@jayv2447]

Doesn’t look that way

[@PONTOCRITICO]

Who knows, but the proposal of the plane is more honest than that of the F-35, which has become an extremely costly and problematic fighter. If Chekmate succeeds in circumventing these aspects, nothing would stop it becoming the new standard of 21st century fighters. Also because solutions from the Boeing X-32 and Northrop/Grumman YF-23 were clearly adopted in its design, showing that Sukhoi is tuned in this type of design.

[@marcojesus3108]

Sobre todos sus alas son similares ala del YF-23, parece que tienen información de los prototipos que rechazó USA..

[@PONTOCRITICO]

@@marcojesus3108 Sim, ele tem muitas semelhanças com outros projetos mesmo.

[@diomedecassar2244]

There is NO delay in the SU 57 serial production. The schedule is proceeding as planned. From the beginning the integration of the izdelie 30 engines for the SU 57 was slated for mid 2022.

[@godofwar6099]

By using silicon AESA radar they will keep the price loo

[@kurokotetsuya7997]

It only have limited bombs or missle according to some sources it has a capacity 4 cruise missle and 4 AIM.

[@SPak-rt2gb]

Is Russia going to build all the parts for it or will they be coming from other countries like the F-35

[@rokuth]

Have you given any thought on the Korean KAI KF-21 Boromae and how it compares to not only the Su-75, but other equivalent 5th Gen fighters?

[@virginiahansen320]

I look forward to this fighter going into production in the 2050's, if at all. Remember, the first X-35 flew in the year 2000. The F-35 is just now hitting its stride. That's with the near infinite funds of the U.S. and its allies behind it. The SU-75 won't have that.

[@2511_blender]

Chinese Aviation Industries:write it down write it down

[@W1ckedRcL]

*US* Produces 5th gen fighter in the 80s *Everyone else 40 years later* See! We can do that too!! *US, laughing in 6th gen* You sure can buddy!

[@stealth225]

The statement is a bit false but ok. The F-22 went operational in the 2005 while it's development started in 1984. NGAD is supposed to be IOC in 2030 and replace the Raptor

[@W1ckedRcL]

@@stealth225 Operational in '05 but in development and production since the 80s. Semantics. And we still had the F117 before anyone had even considered stealth viable. The timing of the NGAD doesn't matter. The fact that we've got a 6th gen fighter well into development and testing while other countries are just now catching up to us is really the point. They're just way behind the curve, is all I'm saying.

[@stealth225]

@@W1ckedRcL and I agree I was just correcting minor details

[@W1ckedRcL]

@@stealth225 Thanks for that.

[@noahjormungandr7759]

What about the Tempest? It should be a 6th gen

[@ronjon7942]

Is there even a Checkmate prototype flying today? For that matter, is there even a full size mockup? At 12:40 u mentioned you'll track its progress and update w new videos...I'm thinking that'll be a short video, nothing to update.

[@markopodganjek845]

I see su 57 as study plane developed from Su 27. Probably they found out that 57 is not good from point of cost benefit. This one will be fully developed to be more stealth from screech and much more simple and cheap. This plane is best option for Russia itself. Cheap, simple, robust, … i don’t think that Russia need this export.

[@92HazelMocha]

It’s not an alternative to the Su57; Russia won’t even be buying them for themselves as of this moment. It’s a dedicated export primarily to offset the massive overheads of the Russian aerospace industry.

[@markopodganjek845]

@@92HazelMocha what is alternative for what, depends of the vision of future war. For which enemy you prepare and how you see the scenario of such war. if I would be Russia I would rather have 300 su 75, then 150 su 57 at any time. With 300 su 75 they can intercept 500 f35, with 150 su 57, they cant.

[@92HazelMocha]

@@markopodganjek845 The Russian airforce doesn’t really operate that way, while in the west we rely on aircraft for air defense and interception, the Russians rely on surface platforms like the S300 and S400. Actual air to air interception is rare for them and is done by specialized interceptors like the Mig31’s which just received another round of updates. The SU57 is designed to take out enemy AWACS, Tankers, and deploy strike packages as opposed to as an air superiority fighter or interceptor. Checkmate is designed as a small export multi role, and aside from its stealth, it’s roles are already fulfilled within the Russian airforce. They probably won’t purchase any for a long time, or even invest the government’s money in its development, as they’re already strapped for cash and frankly don’t really have a need for it.

[@markopodganjek845]

@@92HazelMocha what you described doesn’t provide air supremacy. With S300 or s400 one can hunt enemy planes but cant attack troops. For that you need planes and air supremacy. If not the best planes, then to have at least manny of them. And Russia is here quite short against west. And also against Japan and South Korea. It needs cheap multirole planes more then anybody. Thousand of them.

[@Chalkr]

It looks like if the F35 and F16 had a baby

[@OVTraveller]

Notwithstanding my high regard for Soviet aviation innovation, all we are seeing so far is photography.I will await the plane's flying and combat capacity.