Is the UK about to get free movement with the EU?

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PoliticsJOE

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@soapytowel1565
@soapytowel1565 15 күн бұрын
When my daughter finished university she took a job as a Thompson holiday rep in Spain. She was quite a shy introverted girl & I was quite worried about her & how she would cope with the “Brits abroad” culture. After 2 years she came home a totally different person, having learnt fluent Spanish, dealt with drunken Brits, some tragic deaths. What a transformation! She was now a “streetwise” confident person who went on to get a great job in the financial sector, got married, had 2 children and has blossomed immensely thanks to freedom of movement back in the day. I regret Brexit & the absolute imperialist attitude taken by successive UK governments if only for the opportunities that my grandchildren will miss out on due to this disastrous decision to leave the EU
@Lawrence4000-s3k
@Lawrence4000-s3k 15 күн бұрын
So are you saying that everyone should become a holiday rep in Spain? I don't otherwise follow your thinking. The exact same experience could be had in Manchester on a Thursday night! (except she now can speak a language that has almost zero utility outside of Spain). There are surely better reasons than this for us to increase the pressure on the poorest (which is what freedom of movement or a mobility scheme will undoubtably do.). You might also explain what you mean by 'imperialist attitude'. We're constantly being told Brexiteers are 'Little Englanders' - that's the exact opposite.
@lentilsoup460
@lentilsoup460 15 күн бұрын
​​@@Lawrence4000-s3k Holiday rep is not the only job; there are plenty more job opportunities people could have access to with freedom of movement. And living in a different country is a very different experience than you're used to, which would probably have more impact on you than living in Manchester if you're British. E.g being in a different culture and language would increase your confidence much more.
@nat-hh2rz
@nat-hh2rz 12 күн бұрын
"No use outside of Spain" Spanish is spoken by upwards of 500 million people around the world from Mexico, all the way down to Argentina and is increasingly used in the US. Being a rep in Manchester would not provide the same intercultural experience. Also Brexit was driven by this deluded idea of restoring the "great" in Britain. Britain is still a powerful nation but in an increasingly competitive, globalised world removing ourselves from the world's biggest trading block was the biggest shot in the foot to our nation possible.
@Lawrence4000-s3k
@Lawrence4000-s3k 12 күн бұрын
@@nat-hh2rz So she can now watch Mexican soap-operas? Is that a price worth the UK paying £15 billion in net contributions and having a housing crisis? 'Intercultural' experience - being a holiday rep in Magaluf doesn't qualify (though it depends on the experience, I suppose - it's maybe not something she's that keen to share!) UK exports to the EU have increased in real terms and the 'world's biggest trading block' (it's not - the US is now 50% larger) was a declining share of UK exports. House of Commons Library EU as % Proportion of UK exports 2000: 54%. 2005: 50-52%. 2010: 47%. 2015: 44%. 2019: 43%. UK trade deficit with EU 2000: £6.7 billion. 2005: 34.9 billion. 2010: £30.4 billion 2015: £71.4 billion 2019: £81.2 billion The UK was only ever a semi-detached member of the EU and, in my view, the Eurocenterism it created in the UK was hugely damaging. The UK should always look outwards.
@DW-indeed
@DW-indeed 16 күн бұрын
Can I have my freedom of movement back please? Signed: a no longer young person who didn't vote for any of this.
@_KRYMZN_
@_KRYMZN_ 16 күн бұрын
@Unknown24466 better sending the money there than to fuckin Israel. Something people in the uk can *actually USE*
@hyperkris-q2z
@hyperkris-q2z 16 күн бұрын
​@Unknown24466 Is that why our economy is booming now?
@god1971b
@god1971b 16 күн бұрын
​@Unknown24466 Yes and we did bloody well out of it.... so did our farmers fisherman etc. The 40 billion a year lost tax revenue was 500% of the net uk contrbution, or didn't you know that???
@disl0cate138
@disl0cate138 16 күн бұрын
@Unknown24466 we continue to pay more for the dissaster that was leaving the EU. I d be happy to go back to what we was paying the eu if it fixed the mess we made leaving it.
@Lawrence4000-s3k
@Lawrence4000-s3k 16 күн бұрын
@@god1971b Can you evidence those numbers, please? We know that gdp per capita has tracked EU countries, that UK exports to the EU have increased since 2016 in real terms, and that both the OECD and IMF have the UK to grow faster than France & Germany. Is this taken from one of those counter-factuals constructed by the same people who got the pre-2016 forecasts completely wrong? These would be the counter-factuals that were completely destroyed by the LSE report from a couple of weeks ago?
@svenevans4983
@svenevans4983 16 күн бұрын
I live in a bus and I work all over the UK, pay my taxes, I wish I could travel around Europe for periods longer than 90 days like I did in my younger years when I did the French grape harvest (vendage) 2 years on the trot and spent months picking fruit, throughout France and Spain,enjoying other cultures and generally not being tied to this country . We had free movement in Europe, and in some ways, loosing that freedom is one of the saddest and culturally impoverishing impacts to the lives of people in our country, We should rejoin the European union as soon as possible, although we don't really have any cards left, thanks to the lying bunch of turds responsible for this clusterfeck
@Lawrence4000-s3k
@Lawrence4000-s3k 15 күн бұрын
And how many people do you think ever did what you did? I'll round it down for you - it was approximately zero. And in return we got compressed wages, a housing crisis, and a democracy deficit. Oh, did I mention the £15 billion a year we paid for the honour of running a £100 billion trade deficit? Speak for yourself about being 'culturally impoverished'. We have more immigration from all over the world now. Tbh, football was the only cultural reason most people in the UK ever followed Europe.
@svenevans4983
@svenevans4983 15 күн бұрын
@Lawrence4000-s3k more people (uk citizens)left this country last year than arrived. Every year an estimated 20-30,000 people, mostly students left the UK during the summer months to work in many sectors , primarily the hospitality sector (bars,clubs etc,) Not to mention a few thousand itinerant workers in vineyards, orchards and vegetable harvesting. Any trace of culture we might have had has been covered over and replaced by McDonald's, coke guzzling knuckle dragging morons and ranting right wing xenophobes. This place has become a dump. Also if we have compressed wages,how come you can earn better money abroad? I'm a time served welder, when I finished my apprenticeship back in 1979 I was on £11.70 ph, 46 years later it's unusual to find welding work paying more than £15 ph and that's in the south. Explain that. Spend enough time away from blighty and when you return you just might notice just how far behind the rest of Europe we actually are, it's turning into a third world county. The young British people who leave very rarely return, Better prospects in other countries were the wages are double or triple what you can earn here and a far better quality of life
@pendolinofan643
@pendolinofan643 15 күн бұрын
@@Lawrence4000-s3kI want freedom of movement, I’m the next generation I want freedom I feel trapped on this island I don’t like it I want to spend time in Germany or Austria
@Lawrence4000-s3k
@Lawrence4000-s3k 15 күн бұрын
@@pendolinofan643 If you feel 'trapped' on an island of 70 million then I don't know what to say. I'd suggest you seek citizenship of Germany or Austria if you don't feel that being able to visit for 90 out of 180 days is sufficient. It doesn't sound like you have any sentiment to this country and only want what's good for you so you should go. Why should we pay £15 billion a year, have millions of extra people competing for affordable housing and driving down wages just so you can go and live abroad? Btw, if you do apply in Germany or elsewhere I wouldn't tell your soon-to-hosts that you see them as nothing more than a facilitator for you as they will probably turn you down.
@leonhenry4861
@leonhenry4861 13 күн бұрын
You mean Nigel Farage
@nicolassTRAVEL
@nicolassTRAVEL 16 күн бұрын
Brexit disaster
@andyjordan79
@andyjordan79 12 күн бұрын
Do you people wake up in the middle of the night screaming.Your ilk are truly pathetic.
@vetex007
@vetex007 14 күн бұрын
Why only for youth? Why discriminate older people. Free movement for everyone!
@henbane2247
@henbane2247 13 күн бұрын
Agree
@Max88-xl2si
@Max88-xl2si 12 күн бұрын
So, let' vote to rejoin the EU!! We should not forget that older people have represented the backbone of the conservatives/reform electorate, and that they voted for Brexit en masse
@xyo2434
@xyo2434 10 күн бұрын
Most of the older population voted for it, they've made their bed.
@anonymoushuman8962
@anonymoushuman8962 16 күн бұрын
I hope the youngsters get this opportunity. I really want them to have access to these experiences.
@erikzoe1
@erikzoe1 15 күн бұрын
I do too, but not exclusively youngsters. It should be for all of us.
@clownofthetimes6727
@clownofthetimes6727 15 күн бұрын
Only middle class youngsters of course. The working class youngsters will be tied down with zero hour contracts or on wages so low that they become stuck in a poverty trap. But that is fair enough. Someone has to pay for it so it may as well be the young working class. It is all they are good for, yes?
@MartinBarlow-n2p
@MartinBarlow-n2p 14 күн бұрын
How about older people getting freedom of movement back?
@evie1915
@evie1915 11 күн бұрын
Yes please for the over 50's, not all all of us are Brexiters, moreover the Brexiters will stay at home!
@xyo2434
@xyo2434 10 күн бұрын
Huh? Didn't most of the old people vote for Brexit? Are we rewarding them now?
@therealchrislamont
@therealchrislamont 16 күн бұрын
We would all like freedom of movement back Young AND OLD! If it can be given to the young it should be given to everyone, fkin stupid decision in the 1st place!
@MRW515
@MRW515 15 күн бұрын
The people voted for the government to put a brake on immigration (amongst other things), unfortunately Johnson was utterly useless and did nothing about immigration
@erikzoe1
@erikzoe1 15 күн бұрын
Yes, it should absolutely be a return of full, mutual, freedom of movement for all.
@MRW515
@MRW515 15 күн бұрын
@@erikzoe1no because that affects the working class detrimentally
@erikzoe1
@erikzoe1 15 күн бұрын
@@MRW515 No, it doesn't. The problems facing the working class which freedom of movement keeps being blamed for are the result of many years of bad government in Westminster (both Conservative and Labour).
@andyjordan79
@andyjordan79 12 күн бұрын
The adults would not
@willwill8963
@willwill8963 16 күн бұрын
"We don't have a free movement agreement with the EU". Well, who's fault is that?
@TheHiddenite
@TheHiddenite 16 күн бұрын
I want to say Boris valdimir Johnson, but I'm sure I keep hearing Nigel "the Clacton frog" Farage croaking on and on a lot these days about it
@bh5037
@bh5037 16 күн бұрын
which idiots voted to get rid of the free movements ... ?? can anybody answer this difficult question ???
@TheHiddenite
@TheHiddenite 16 күн бұрын
@bh5037 Again, that was Nigel or as he goes by his proper title: The Clacton Frog 🐸
@Lawrence4000-s3k
@Lawrence4000-s3k 16 күн бұрын
@bh5037 Probably the people who suffered most from it. Read the Guardian yesterday and there was a report showing how housing costs (particularly affordable housing) has hit the UK more than any other country. Maybe in your cossetted life it didn't affect you but it's been disastrous for the working-class.
@jonmould2946
@jonmould2946 16 күн бұрын
​@@Lawrence4000-s3kbut non EU inflows increased by a lot!
@erikzoe1
@erikzoe1 15 күн бұрын
A youth mobility scheme would be great, but it's not enough. Freedom of movement should be reinstated for all of us (mutually, of course).
@henbane2247
@henbane2247 13 күн бұрын
Yes as a non-young person, I totally agree
@andyjordan79
@andyjordan79 12 күн бұрын
Freedom of movement has been and is a complete and utter disaster,not just for us,but the whole of the european continent.
@gabrielbear5268
@gabrielbear5268 16 күн бұрын
What about for all the people above 30-35? These youth visas are just cut off to people... Having a British citizeniship is becoming less and less benefitial compared to other high economy countries as the years go on.
16 күн бұрын
It's a start. I'd sooner we all had our freedom of movement back but at least these schemes mean that young people from the UK with a bit of initiative can experience a bit of Europe of they want. Is anybody here old enough to remember the little cardboard EU permits you could get on the same day in the post office instead of getting the full passport? They were about £18 plus the quid for the photo booth, if memory serves, and they were as good as a passport in any EU member state.
@Alex-df4lt
@Alex-df4lt 16 күн бұрын
Not interested
@FallenPhoenix86
@FallenPhoenix86 15 күн бұрын
@@Alex-df4lt No one asked you, trot on.
@lolly1811
@lolly1811 13 күн бұрын
@@Alex-df4lt stay where you are then. But dont stop it for other people.
@Alex-df4lt
@Alex-df4lt 13 күн бұрын
@@lolly1811 Brits can come as visitors, nobody is stopping them. But no youth free movement.
@michaelmayo3127
@michaelmayo3127 15 күн бұрын
The whole political idea behind preventing the younger generation form an in depth experience, from a short residency period in the EU; is that the establishment doesn't what the younger generation, being influence by the EU's different democratic take on problem that UK's politician, sweep under the carpet. They don't want them experiencing republican P/R democracy, royals in constitutional monarchies, that are not stinkingly-wealth where, their offspring have a state education, where national-service isn't a choice for them and where like every-other able bodied citizen, they are call-up. That is what plutocratic UK doesn't want the UK's younger generation, taking stock of!!
@Ooze-cl5tx
@Ooze-cl5tx 15 күн бұрын
The UKs whole population, young and old, had that kind of access during their EU membership and it didnt prevent Brexit, so there is no reason for such fears. The true english will never learn anything from any european country.
@michaelmayo3127
@michaelmayo3127 15 күн бұрын
Go the total population of the UK had access to the EU's higher institutions of learning ? Are you sure? The EU wants Brits to study at their universities not sit in the sun all day.
@Ooze-cl5tx
@Ooze-cl5tx 15 күн бұрын
@ There is no upper age limit for university students and FoM allowed all kinds of living including sitting in the sun all day if you have the means to support yourself. And you could - even without visiting a university - experience living in europe and you could learn something about where you live, or as most brits choose, learn nothing at all.
@michaelmayo3127
@michaelmayo3127 15 күн бұрын
@@Ooze-cl5tx I don't think, that you get the gist of cultural imperialism. Having Brits read at the Sorbonne, could well influence and change their social character. It could open their eyes to the fact, that UK isn't a democracy. And that would be very worrying for the UK plutocratic governance.
@Ooze-cl5tx
@Ooze-cl5tx 15 күн бұрын
@@michaelmayo3127 During their membership the brits have tried that in much higher numbers than a "youth mobility scheme" would allow and it didnt change them enough to prevent Brexit. Thats why the UK governance can be very relaxed and trust in the brits as a whole not changing.
@floormankbh
@floormankbh 16 күн бұрын
I repeat is is NOT FOM. Its only a "YOUTH MOBILITY" right ie from 18 to 30 and for a limited period. The EU was suggesting 4 years but I doubt the UK would accept that. It will probably be 2 years if it is agreed but the EU should make it clear no new trade arrangemang of any kind until a basic Youth mobility scheme is in place. I have lived in 2 EU countries now using the old FOM rights and have spent most of my life in Europe now where I remain.
@michaelmayo3127
@michaelmayo3127 15 күн бұрын
What's the weather like today in Copenhagen?
@TheHiddenite
@TheHiddenite 16 күн бұрын
i will ask the important question, if the ones who voted leave, still think thats the best decision, why are they still here again? 😂
@CuriousCrow-mp4cx
@CuriousCrow-mp4cx 15 күн бұрын
If you have to ask then you're it.
@dvidclapperton
@dvidclapperton 15 күн бұрын
Leaving the EU hae stalled UK growth.
@albiemayo2376
@albiemayo2376 15 күн бұрын
A youth mobility programme is not Freedom of Movement. We should at least rejoin Erasmus for starters.
@GiveMeBourbon
@GiveMeBourbon 16 күн бұрын
Absolutely love the idea of free movement, even if I'm probably too old to benefit from it. Sadly, Starmer doesn't have the balls to pass it.
@HarryVaughan-p1u
@HarryVaughan-p1u 12 күн бұрын
Yvette Cooper is the one stopping giving young Brits like me access to work and live in Europe. She pretends that a youth mobility scheme would be freedom of movement for young even though it could be capped on numbers and time limited. Disgraceful.
@nicolassTRAVEL
@nicolassTRAVEL 16 күн бұрын
Uk is not united anymore
@abraxis20
@abraxis20 16 күн бұрын
More disunited than even the 80s, and I thought that was bad!
@godot-whatyouvebeenwaitingfor
@godot-whatyouvebeenwaitingfor 16 күн бұрын
She said that twice...do we need a double introduction?
@geniemarie7977
@geniemarie7977 15 күн бұрын
😂
@columbus7950
@columbus7950 16 күн бұрын
Not for us seniors. I want my FoM back.
@globalist1990
@globalist1990 15 күн бұрын
Next step: issue a national id card at £20 every 10 years, that allows travel within the eu. Like a normal country.
@daydays12
@daydays12 16 күн бұрын
Why not unclip the wings of old people like me, born and bred in UK but living in the EU for whom it has been made difficult ( deliberately?) to visit/return to their place of origin
@c3pno
@c3pno 16 күн бұрын
#Oldlivesdontmatter 😂 not very inclusive is it 😂 they should unclip the wings of trans too
@holdmusic_
@holdmusic_ 16 күн бұрын
To be fair, the youth of today had absolutely no part in the Brexit vote. So in a way it makes sense that the decisions made by idiots at that time don't impact them today. The rest of us can wait and just use the current visa systems instead. My hope is we will rejoin the EU in my lifetime but right wing people are so crushingly stupid it wouldn't surprise me if they somehow prevented it from happening.
@georgeshaw8563
@georgeshaw8563 16 күн бұрын
Uhm mate you already had that chance? You lit had every opportunity to go to europe to study/go to university. Hopefully you actually used those privileges, because now British students from 16-24 have never had the opportunity to go to uni/study in europe. And i really hope you acc didnt vote for brexit or your comment becomes 10* more dumb
@tompearce3610
@tompearce3610 16 күн бұрын
​@@georgeshaw8563clearly he did take advantage as he's living in the EU!
@holdmusic_
@holdmusic_ 16 күн бұрын
@@c3pno what does this word salad even mean?
@Alsmithize
@Alsmithize 15 күн бұрын
We need lots of young people back in this miserable hell hole
@MRW515
@MRW515 15 күн бұрын
Well they won't be coming from the EU, not many couples are having children
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@michaelmckelvey5122
@michaelmckelvey5122 15 күн бұрын
It is not just a matter of young people as young people can easily even get two-year work visas for Australia. Movement affects older people as well, older people want to live in warm Spain rather than cold England! A lot of the young in England are now of foreign parentage so they are often entitled to more than one passport in the first place. My children can claim Polish passports because of their Polish mother but what about poor little me??!!
@paulohalloran
@paulohalloran 16 күн бұрын
Why are you saying - "Is the UK about to get Freedom of Movement with the UK" - No. You are not. The discussion isn't even about FOM but a Youth Mobility Scheme which has nothing to do with FOM so please STOP using this term as it is completely misleading the public
@Lawrence4000-s3k
@Lawrence4000-s3k 16 күн бұрын
I may very well have exactly the same effect. We know that in 2015 nearly 300k EU citizens came to the UK and the majority of them were young. Do we have any confidence that people living here for 5 years or whatever it will be will then ever leave? I'm not so sure.
@paulohalloran
@paulohalloran 16 күн бұрын
@Lawrence4000-s3k It's a reciprocal arrangement, something that the UK has with other countries around the world. It is limited to numbers and time where people have to apply to qualify. It is not FOM and since Brexit, thousands of EU nationals left the UK. What even makes you think that young people are even interested in the UK. Ireland has more to offer.
@Lawrence4000-s3k
@Lawrence4000-s3k 16 күн бұрын
@@paulohalloran Has it been confirmed this will be limited in terms of numbers? The initial EU proposal did not set any limits. My understanding is the EU wanted unlimited numbers (they have a lot of unemployed youth). If this is similar to the Australia deal then about 20-30k per year would be acceptable. Previous freedom of movement suggests the ratio will be 5:1 in favour of the EU. This is unacceptable. The EU is asking for 'home fees' for students (that would mean refusing non-EU students paying an average of £22k in order to facilitate EU students paying £9k (and getting a loan for it!). And no NHS surcharge among other requests. I believe they are also saying EU members should be able to take training places? That would mean a UK citizen is disadvantaged. The UK is a far more attractive destination to Europeans than vice versa. It's language and openness and ease of finding work. Ireland is too small (and probably has an even worse housing situation) but if it is more appealing then EU young people should go there.
@paulohalloran
@paulohalloran 16 күн бұрын
@@Lawrence4000-s3k Yes it has. Again, it is not Freedom of Movement. I don't understand why you are confused by that part. Also, it is reciprocal. Trust me, EU nationals have no interest in staying in the UK long-term!
@Lawrence4000-s3k
@Lawrence4000-s3k 16 күн бұрын
@@paulohalloran Can you say where you have found that the EU has agreed to a quota? (I know no links are allowed). I can't find anything other than the original proposal. which did not specify a quota. Freedom of movement was reciprocal and it turned out it was 6 million v 1.2 million. The EU was never a desired destination for UK nationals (out of 5 million who live abroad it's only about 20% chose the EU). Can you explain why the UK should offer preferential terms to EU nationals and EU nationals only? I don't understand this eurocentric position. The presently agreed mobility schemes have strict quotas and restrictions designed to protect the UK taxpayer. The YMS allows young people to live and work in the UK for up to two years. To qualify, applicants must: Be between 18 and 30 years old Have at least £2,530 in cash savings Not have children under 18 who live with them or are financially dependent on them Not have previously participated in the YMS Pay the visa application fee and Immigration Health Charge I simply can't see how we can treat non-EU nationals in such a second-class fashion.
@instructorhub8669
@instructorhub8669 15 күн бұрын
Correction! "Is the UK about to get free movement within the EU back!" Don't worry I fixed it guys!!!
@gpapa22
@gpapa22 15 күн бұрын
This is fascinating and terrifying and sad, all at once.
@fabyao
@fabyao 13 күн бұрын
I am French and my children were born in the UK. As soon as the Brexit referendum was proposed, I applied for British citizenship for myself and French citizenship for my children. I believe that one way I can further my children's education is through travel experiences. Not just in France, all of the EU. Learning different cultures, tasting new food, listening to local music and making friendship. These can shape one's mind in ways that a teacher/lecturer can never do. My children and I do not have any movement restrictions. I wish it was the same for everybody. Alas Brexit happened and the people spoke. Nevertheless, I welcome the idea that young people could move around without Visa and time restrictions. Its a good start. I would also like to see musicians being able to tour Europe under the same conditions. An issue that Sir Elton John raised numerous times.
@johngraham4951
@johngraham4951 12 күн бұрын
Theres nearly 200 countries, having a deal with c.5% is no big deal versus what we had with EU membership
@jonen2
@jonen2 14 күн бұрын
Wouldn’t it be good if all UK media reported on issues for UK like this.
@OneMystified
@OneMystified 15 күн бұрын
The only way to stem the economic malaise is to join the Customs union and eventually reenter the Single market. As for the will of the people that has changed dramatically with demographic change coupled with the realization by Leave voters that the whole Leave campaign was based on lies.
@evie1915
@evie1915 11 күн бұрын
It will only be free movement of people when it is available to any age group, start with the youth but needs to include the over 50's too.
@philipen65888
@philipen65888 15 күн бұрын
Is this UK's Dental care and awareness s promotion spot?
@CuriousCrow-mp4cx
@CuriousCrow-mp4cx 15 күн бұрын
Is this a stupid question?
@bigfella4546
@bigfella4546 15 күн бұрын
Youth mobility would be great! I'd quite like to get off this sinking ship.
@hypotheticalaxolotl
@hypotheticalaxolotl 16 күн бұрын
What, again? Didn't they go through a whole thing ten years ago because of this?
@Jabskin
@Jabskin 16 күн бұрын
ten years too soon?
@rollosinternet1853
@rollosinternet1853 15 күн бұрын
Nope. Young British movement of people OK with a deadline, so they'll realise what the elderly have robbed them of and will push for a return without the ridiculous exceptionalism even this lady speaker expects and almost demánds. British expect their immigrants to integrate, learn the language, pay taxes... So does every other country. Far too many British immigrants to Spain never bothered to integrate and cannot speak the language after decades living there, regularly (those who registered their residence) or those illegal ones who never registered and can now be deported. Up to 30 years old, ok... But we have more than enough British retirees and "Little Britain" ghettos in Spain! No more! At the end of the day, UK's admission is up to the EU and they will definitely not give exceptions as the UK never appreciated how spoiled it really was. Good riddance, for many EU citizens.
@KingNChakky
@KingNChakky 14 күн бұрын
why are old people always pulling up the ladder to young people? I dream for this to happen, but I am very sceptical that this will happen sadly.
@dvidclapperton
@dvidclapperton 15 күн бұрын
Youth mobility scheme is not the UK rejoining the EU.
@jacksonvega7751
@jacksonvega7751 16 күн бұрын
Christ I hope so
@boristihon4896
@boristihon4896 14 күн бұрын
That would be nice
@suburbanyobbo9412
@suburbanyobbo9412 15 күн бұрын
Free movement will depress wages.
@CuriousCrow-mp4cx
@CuriousCrow-mp4cx 15 күн бұрын
Free movement didn't depress wages in the rest of the EU, when we were in it. And it still hasn't depressed wages in the EU since we left.They still pay more than the UK. It's time you bit the bullet that British employers screwed British workers because they could. British workers work the longest hours than countries in the EU. But asset wealthy Brits don't want to invest in Britain. I wonder why? A lot of them don't want to live in Britain either, but still want to control the minds of British workers that they think are lazy than other foreign workers. They put that in writing in books that were published years ago. And you still voted for the and their political parties. They don't think you're worth more. And you kowtow to them, and they still pay you less than Europe, simply because they can. When will you accept that they don't like you? That they don't respect you as you vote for NF and BJ, grifters one and all? No Wonder you're not getting anything. You have to change, to get their respect, and whining about migrants taking jobs you don't want to do does you no favours. Just a thought.
@suburbanyobbo9412
@suburbanyobbo9412 15 күн бұрын
@@CuriousCrow-mp4cx Utter cope. EU freedom of movement was designed to depress wages. Liberalised immigration systems depress wages. I really wish ill informed people like you would try listening to experts like Alan Manning, rather than clinging onto the "B b but you're just blaming migrants".
@Richard-pe4cx
@Richard-pe4cx 15 күн бұрын
i would like my freedom of movement back i would like to retire to a warmer country for a better quality of life
@meros3881
@meros3881 15 күн бұрын
you're welcome to retire in southern france as long as you learn french and properly indulge in french culture
@cameronfateweaver2206
@cameronfateweaver2206 16 күн бұрын
older people damaged the UK - never forgive, never forget.
@robm.4512
@robm.4512 15 күн бұрын
Please don’t tar us all with the same brush. 49% voted NO to Brexit and a significant number who led lives divided between the UK and the EU have suffered huge losses and fundamental disruptions to their lives. Point your finger of shame at the right people, the gullible followers of Forage, the Clacton ‘unt, and a few misguided souls who wanted to “teach the tories a lesson,” amongst whom were a fair few from all age groups young and old.
@henbane2247
@henbane2247 13 күн бұрын
How?
@robm.4512
@robm.4512 13 күн бұрын
@@cameronfateweaver2206 Not me, buddy, 49% of us voted against this garbage trajectory. Please don’t fall into the trap of tarring everyone of a group with the same brush, generalisations usually just make a fool of the person that throws them into a discourse.
@007h13
@007h13 12 күн бұрын
Check the data age wise who voted for brexit. Is easy​@@henbane2247
@colinsmith1288
@colinsmith1288 15 күн бұрын
The brits are not interested in the eu. It is Canada,America,Australia,New Zealand,Singapore they want to go to. The eu is simply becoming less important to the British mindset.
@adrianaspalinky1986
@adrianaspalinky1986 15 күн бұрын
But i really should be out and shopping right now.
@WillsM85
@WillsM85 15 күн бұрын
Still need a time-limited visa? What exactly is your definition of "free movement"? Sounds like a regular visa application here..
@michaeltabet9223
@michaeltabet9223 16 күн бұрын
Yep I'm pretty sure it's not gonna happen.
@aukebij3193
@aukebij3193 12 күн бұрын
freedom of movement for the uk in the european union?? forget it
@dubbaphatt3368
@dubbaphatt3368 15 күн бұрын
Someone give that woman free movement to a dentist please
@CuriousCrow-mp4cx
@CuriousCrow-mp4cx 15 күн бұрын
Try find a brain.
@uweinhamburg
@uweinhamburg 15 күн бұрын
Short answer - no! If EUrope granted the UK such an agreement, how can they deny the same advantage to other third countries?
@alanharper23
@alanharper23 15 күн бұрын
They don’t. The Erasmus+ scheme already allows for mobility between EU and third countries for instance.
@uweinhamburg
@uweinhamburg 15 күн бұрын
@@alanharper23 Right - and Erasmua has been a program open to certain groups (age qualification) in all third countries to begin with, so absolutely no exclusivity for any specific country.
@colinsmith1288
@colinsmith1288 15 күн бұрын
It is the eu cherrypicking. The UK says no.!
@CuriousCrow-mp4cx
@CuriousCrow-mp4cx 15 күн бұрын
Lol. Empty vessels make the most noise.
@colinsmith1288
@colinsmith1288 15 күн бұрын
@@uweinhamburg How can the Uk trust the eu after a breach of trust. Merkel let undocumented millions into the eu and it has been catastrophic ever since. Never trust the french or the Germans.!
@andyjordan79
@andyjordan79 12 күн бұрын
Delusion is strong in this one
@MagnusIratusLiberales
@MagnusIratusLiberales 14 күн бұрын
mabye this will help with immigration
@DavoInMelbourne
@DavoInMelbourne 15 күн бұрын
Why would highly intelligent youngsters from the EU want to go and live/study/work in the UK when the country voted them all out? There’s nothing for the EU in this.
@colinsmith1288
@colinsmith1288 15 күн бұрын
It was the eu proposing the idea to the Uk first.!
@meros3881
@meros3881 15 күн бұрын
also: the cost of living + housing crisis in the UK is worse than in France, Germany or Spain for instance, even if EU youngsters were willing to come and work or study in the UK, most countries within the EU have far more to offer and at a much lower price. im not coming to the UK for £6 pints when i can get two for half that price in Bratislava and without a passport
@colinsmith1288
@colinsmith1288 14 күн бұрын
@@meros3881 Young Brits are going to Australia.
@henbane2247
@henbane2247 13 күн бұрын
You forget that Scotland, Northern Ireland and I think London did not vote to leave the EU
@adrianaspalinky1986
@adrianaspalinky1986 15 күн бұрын
I am pretending to be interested and I click like, i let the video play, I understand the need to support you.
@spekenbonen72
@spekenbonen72 15 күн бұрын
Wishfull thinking. Cheers from The Netherlands....
@MEHOLE
@MEHOLE 16 күн бұрын
I always thought this channel was bollocks. No, this won't happen for at least five years, if it does at all.
@CuriousCrow-mp4cx
@CuriousCrow-mp4cx 15 күн бұрын
Your channel name says it all.
@Gunit-007
@Gunit-007 14 күн бұрын
I don’t exactly see countries in the EU flourishing either lol
@x3rs3s
@x3rs3s 15 күн бұрын
Never mind young people. What about the old people that want to retire to Spain or Portugal?
@erikzoe1
@erikzoe1 15 күн бұрын
I completely agree that it should be for older people as well, and mutually, but why "never mind young people"?
@x3rs3s
@x3rs3s 15 күн бұрын
@ i am not discounting that it benefits young people but they focus too much on this. When older people can actually run businesses in the EU that can generate taxes for the UK.
@laurenceskinner5498
@laurenceskinner5498 15 күн бұрын
Now that we've left the EU, there is no incentive for EU countries to accept those who are not in the workforce and who would likely use a greater proportion of public services. If it's going to be a reciprocal agreement, how many Portuguese pensioners do you expect to retire in Grimsby?
@x3rs3s
@x3rs3s 15 күн бұрын
@@laurenceskinner5498 Nobody in their right mind would retire to bleak and dark Grimsby 😂
@nickwoodward819
@nickwoodward819 15 күн бұрын
Why put FoM in the title?
@michaelmayo3127
@michaelmayo3127 15 күн бұрын
No,no,no!! Starmer has his red lines, no if-buts about it, the EU must comply to his rules: one must remember, that we hold all the best cards the EU need us more that we need them!! that sounds a bit reminiscent.
@tiitafrog
@tiitafrog 16 күн бұрын
lets create an scheme mickey mouse scheme to replace the possibilities we had before... yes.. great..
@tilmanvondelft
@tilmanvondelft 14 күн бұрын
Misleading headline?
@Unknown24466
@Unknown24466 16 күн бұрын
People had already voted to leave & rejoining EU isn’t that simple & is a long process.
@julianskinner3697
@julianskinner3697 16 күн бұрын
A vote now would be to rejoin. Brexit was really dumb and will have to reversed sooner or later.
@FallenPhoenix86
@FallenPhoenix86 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, so the sooner we get started...
@billiebob7779
@billiebob7779 16 күн бұрын
Seems like a very middle class issue
@hanzo7616
@hanzo7616 16 күн бұрын
Yeah dumb as hell how its only for "youth". I say this as someone in their late 20s who probably wouldn’t even qualify for it.
@johnsmith-jq1uc
@johnsmith-jq1uc 16 күн бұрын
pretty please
@Lawrence4000-s3k
@Lawrence4000-s3k 16 күн бұрын
Shouldn't we be concerned that with UK youth unemployment increasing (it is) and with a crisis in affordable housing that particularly affects young people that this scheme will harm our young people? If we go on past history the inflow will be 5x the outflow. The incomers will want affordable housing and low-skilled work. And if they also want subsidised education (as the EU wants) then are we going to divert public funds for that purpose or will we allow the universities to go bust (as they warn). The outflow will undoubtedly be the middle-class but the working-class will again bear the cost of increased competition for housing and jobs.
@elrig9573
@elrig9573 16 күн бұрын
The freedom to dump VAT in favour of some location rent was a good reason to leave the EU; but nothing changed. So the UK is still heading down the same pan as the EU.
@syedhasan5861
@syedhasan5861 16 күн бұрын
You do know that more than three million people in the UK have died since the 2016 EU Referendum and more than two million of them who died in the UK voted Leave in the 2016 EU Referendum? Are you an old codger?
@elrig9573
@elrig9573 16 күн бұрын
@@syedhasan5861 Taxes on wages and trade, one of which is VAT, are responsible for poverty and social dislocation across the domains where such taxes are imposed. Their removal cancels £1tn of current UK annual deadweight losses that are the price of privileging site owners and destroying wealth production. I am 63 years of age if that makes a difference.
@syedhasan5861
@syedhasan5861 16 күн бұрын
@@elrig9573 so the UK losing £100 Billion to £140 Billion a year of exports to the EU, the loss of trillions of GB pounds(£) of foreign investments to the UK, the UK now paying the highest energy prices in the G7 and the UK is on the verge of losing food security are all Brexit benefits?
@elrig9573
@elrig9573 16 күн бұрын
​@@syedhasan5861 UK VAT receipts rose by £10bn to £169bn last year, that tax on productive activity inflicted at least a 1:1 deadweight loss on UK output (exceeding the losses on exports you mention above). Much more for the EU. And yet VAT is one of the smaller of the deadweight taxes repressing UK output and sustaining poverty/deprivation arising from our decision to keep on dividing the UK into privileged high value site owners and the rest who have to create those location rents by producing wealth through working or trading, only to have it transferred to site owners as an unearned privilege.
@Alex-df4lt
@Alex-df4lt 16 күн бұрын
I live in the EU and I'm against the youth mobility scheme.
@martywest6004
@martywest6004 15 күн бұрын
Do tell why?
@Alex-df4lt
@Alex-df4lt 15 күн бұрын
@@martywest6004 UK left and I don't care about it anymore. No special deals.
@moreplease998
@moreplease998 15 күн бұрын
Don't punish the young for the poor choices of the old. 73% of the young voted remain, and the fraction who wish to have remained has only gotten to a higher percentage since. I know a few people who voted leave, including one who was only 20 at the time. All of them who I have spoken to about this have regretted it and expressed that they wish they had voted remain. Every single one of them. People were duped
@Alex-df4lt
@Alex-df4lt 15 күн бұрын
@@moreplease998 They can get Irish citizenship.
@Alex-df4lt
@Alex-df4lt 13 күн бұрын
@@moreplease998 No special deals for UK
@geniemarie7977
@geniemarie7977 15 күн бұрын
Click bait
@kathleenswift7979
@kathleenswift7979 16 күн бұрын
We voted to leave all this nonsense. Nobody is stopping you going to other countries. Think we've got enough people coming here then never leaving.
@richardbarton2709
@richardbarton2709 16 күн бұрын
Told with lies and bull shite.
@julianskinner3697
@julianskinner3697 16 күн бұрын
By a tiny margin. A vote now would go the other way.
@alanharper23
@alanharper23 15 күн бұрын
The YMS is designed to encourage economic growth through upskilling young people and supporting business with labour shortages. These are for a limited number of people for a limited duration of stay. It has nothing to do with freedom of movement. Speaking of which, how do you feel that immigration levels have spiked since leaving the EU? Did the UK gain much control over its borders?
@FallenPhoenix86
@FallenPhoenix86 15 күн бұрын
"Nobody is stopping you going to other countries. " People like you did exactly that when you foolishly removed our right to do exactly that.
@kathleenswift7979
@kathleenswift7979 15 күн бұрын
@FallenPhoenix86 removed your right? 🤣🤣 but you don't mind being governed by a bunch of lunatics in Brussels? You are not banned from jetting off to other countries, polluting the atmosphere with all your flying about, adding to the "global boiling" that you're all so terrified of🤣🤣
@nabeelzaidi7856
@nabeelzaidi7856 15 күн бұрын
No!
@timmo491
@timmo491 16 күн бұрын
Is Starmer mentally impaired serious question?
@nicolassTRAVEL
@nicolassTRAVEL 16 күн бұрын
Brexit disaster
@nicolassTRAVEL
@nicolassTRAVEL 16 күн бұрын
Uk is not united anymore
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