Is The Viking Raven Banner REALLY On A COIN?

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The Welsh Viking

The Welsh Viking

Күн бұрын

The Raven Banner is an iconic piece of Viking Age symbolism. It represents many things to many people, be they pagan, archaeologist, historian, or reenactor.
But where does this iconic triangular flag come from? Was it really hammered into a precious silver penny in York 1000 years ago? Does every one of the modern raven banners owe its existence to a single coin, minted by a Norse Gael from Dublin who died in a Christian monastery off Scotland?
Has Jimmy had a haircut but not a shave? All this and more in this week's video!
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Fun article by J. Richards on Christianisation and other stuff: eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/755/
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@valsif
@valsif Жыл бұрын
Love seeing the archeological evidence of co-habitation of Nordic Heathens and Christians - I'm particularly fond of the blacksmith mold that features both a mjolnir and Christian cross.
@johan13135
@johan13135 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, don't use the word "heathens" anymore, its a very derogatory and discriminate word that only Christian hate groups use for any non-Christians they dislike
@ambravirlebreton
@ambravirlebreton Жыл бұрын
@@johan13135 Ok heathen
@P-Mouse
@P-Mouse Жыл бұрын
The Wolf-Cross in the Iceland National Museum is also really cool, mixing Christian and Pagan elements.
@valsif
@valsif Жыл бұрын
@@johan13135 hi, I'm one of the hosts of the Heathen Wyrdos podcast - I worship the old Nordic gods and the term for our religion is heathenry. 😂 Edit; I should also add, I call myself a Nordic Heathen as a result.
@charlespentrose7834
@charlespentrose7834 Жыл бұрын
@@johan13135 Then why do I know several people who worship the old Norse gods and call themselves heathens? Not to mention a selection of atheists who lay claim to the label.
@GallowglassVT
@GallowglassVT Жыл бұрын
In the end, it shows the the universal nature of symbol across cultures more than anything else. Plus, as you said, there's no reason not to use the raven banner in reenactment, since we know the raven pops up in Old Norse paganism a bunch. Even if the accuracy is still up in the air, it can still be considered historically authentic.
@sarar4901
@sarar4901 Жыл бұрын
Made some big pink pants of my own this week. Very comfy, five stars. I appreciate the inspiration.
@SaszaDerRoyt
@SaszaDerRoyt Жыл бұрын
I'm a big coin nerd and have a lot of replica early medieval coins for reenacting with, very happy to say I got to look at my own replicas while you showed the originals in the video! I also have my own mini raven banner that I'll be flying at Jorvik, looking forward to seeing yourself and all the wonderful folk there! I'll also be working the bellows at a blacksmithing stall on Parliament Street on thursday if anyone in York wants to pop by and say hi
@SaszaDerRoyt
@SaszaDerRoyt Жыл бұрын
I have a couple raven pennies but I don't yet have any banner pennies, I must look out for them in the markets this weekend
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
I’ll nip along and say hello!
@SaszaDerRoyt
@SaszaDerRoyt Жыл бұрын
@@TheWelshViking Hi, so for a few reasons I will no longer be at the stall on thursday but I will still be hanging around the markets on friday and the march on saturday!
@cliffordbaldwin9157
@cliffordbaldwin9157 Жыл бұрын
This guy is really really intelligent and he has a passion that is so magnanimous this guy needs like 1000 or 10,000 times the subscribers that he hasThis guy was a teacher when I was going to school I’d probably be been a straight a student
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
Well you’re just far too kind. What a lovely thing to say. Thank you very much indeed :)
@kathyjohnson2043
@kathyjohnson2043 Жыл бұрын
"heavenly armed nut cases" is a great band name.
@mirjanbouma
@mirjanbouma Жыл бұрын
Ah, the walrus with the bucket! Hit me right in the nostalgia. Thank you for another fascinating and entertaining video, Jimmy!
@timmcdaniel6193
@timmcdaniel6193 10 ай бұрын
The LOLrus! "Noooo they be stealin' my bucket"
@maleahlock
@maleahlock Жыл бұрын
I have so many preconceptions and misunderstandings about the knowing of these things so I love hearing you speak about them. It may be because my brain is too tired to research things only to come up against paywalls and misinformation. . . or because I am lazy. Either way, Thank you 😊
@wendynordstrom3487
@wendynordstrom3487 Жыл бұрын
Ohh, I was wearing my raven penny earrings yesterday! I adore ravens and crows. Almost as much as I love Jimmy. 🥰 Have a great time at the festival. Toot toot! 🚂
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
Of course you were! You’re such a good one, Wendy! ❤️
@NicklasForesti
@NicklasForesti Жыл бұрын
"Heavily armed nutcases" 😂😂😂
@eazy8579
@eazy8579 Жыл бұрын
YEAH! VIKINGS! BIRDS! COINS! I’ve wanted to get a Norse coin stamp, and this is some good information, and I want to make my own Viking banner. Also, social history is so cool
@cennethadameveson3715
@cennethadameveson3715 Жыл бұрын
Two things: I saw the hand of God penny and want one, see price, may not this year! Saw paned and automatically got up and made one. Paned was one of my favourite words when I was in hospital.
@azteclady
@azteclady Жыл бұрын
So much to learn! I would love to see that sword in a banner, to be honest.
@sarahwatts7152
@sarahwatts7152 Жыл бұрын
I like that Bernadette's video is helping Jimmy! I don't go to many Viking festivals (I am terminally American), but I think using the raven banner is a good thing, as it lets people learn more about why ravens were important to Vikings. The misinformation I'm less crazy about.
@historiansrevolt4333
@historiansrevolt4333 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! It's interesting how different, unconnected cultures come up with visually similar icons. That's a cool birb!
@teresagabriela5806
@teresagabriela5806 Жыл бұрын
So cool! Thanks for this video!
@astridkawada1618
@astridkawada1618 Жыл бұрын
I really want a replica of all of those coins. Old coins are just so cool!
@jacobgrisham268
@jacobgrisham268 Жыл бұрын
Cannot express how excited I was to see this. Love studying historical coinage and the wild political shenanigans and messages they represented!
@phillipallen3259
@phillipallen3259 Жыл бұрын
A purse full of these bad boys and you can shop anywhere in town! I love it! I also love the fact that you call out pseudoarchaeology when you find it Jimmy! Making suppositions is one thing but making suppositions and calling the fact is something entirely different... It's called lies.
@p0etrygh0st
@p0etrygh0st Жыл бұрын
A day with Jimmys video in it is a good day
@abysswarlock
@abysswarlock Жыл бұрын
History is more complicated than we usually think. Awesome video as always Jimmy!
@iregularhexagon9897
@iregularhexagon9897 Жыл бұрын
The hand of god coin and/or banner *will* be making an appearance in my dnd campaign now. I've been trying to figure out what a good symbol for a recently-monotheistic nation would be and that's perfect.
@claire2088
@claire2088 Жыл бұрын
It's so nice and refreshing to hear about the less violent ways that people consilidated and held their power- I'm sure he was a badass too, but so often we get the impression that 'might is right' was the only way that rulers ruled historically. The subtle diplomacy and cultural knowledge it took to keep populations content is something that seems totally lost to history, we hear about all the conquests and great battles and it gives the impression that people of the past were more violent and less intelligent that they were.
@anthonyholton2886
@anthonyholton2886 Жыл бұрын
I've always wondered about the historical source for that particular raven. Thank you!
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how Odin befriended Hugin and Munin. Did he give them little bits of walnut? Crows love walnuts, so I assume ravens like them too. Did Odin offer to crack the walnuts for them? Somebody should write an epic poem about that! I also want to know whether Hugin and Munin are a mated pair.
@lenabreijer1311
@lenabreijer1311 Жыл бұрын
If they are anything like the ravens in Yellowknife maybe he offered them multi coloured golf balls? Ravens stole golf balls from people and made little colour sorted piles on top of one of the office buildings. They also recognize trucks. They remember who fed them and will follow the truck and sit on it.
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 Жыл бұрын
@@lenabreijer1311 Haha, lol, that's great! :D In '21 my mom and I took a hike in a valley in Thuringia/Germany, near my parents' weekend cottage. And there were ravens making sounds when we approached the end of the valley. Then we met another woman who walked her dog and the ravens came closer and "talked" to each other, so I said maybe they were talking about us and the dog. Shortly after, mom and I gathered raspberries and one raven came flying and perched on the very top of a tree right opposite us where he made noise. We concluded that this must be the forest inspector who was lecturing us about how to behave properly. The ravens also flew over the cottage once or twice a day, often talking to each other. Not sure whether it was the same pair but it could very well be.
@goblincavecrafting
@goblincavecrafting Жыл бұрын
Loved this one! I worked with loads of Anglo Saxon coins at the Fitz a while ago with Rory Naismith on his project for MEC and these things were so fragile!! They got called ‘milk bottle tops’ because they’re that thin! Loved seeing all the variations in imagery on them, and it was a blast seeing you talk about this one here. Gutted I can’t make it to York but I’m demonstrating mail making at Butser for half term instead. Was hoping to run into someone who could make me some period-accurate clothing! Hopefully I’ll be able to make it another year. Thanks for all the joy and humour you bring to this era of history and it’s always a delight when you upload. Take care
@tylersdog
@tylersdog Жыл бұрын
Jimmy: I'm going to steer clear of the windstorms of controversy and just say, that is one beautiful sweater you're wearing. (oh, and a wonderful video as well)
@timmadison5410
@timmadison5410 Жыл бұрын
Those transitional periods when one religion is supplanting others is really kind kind of fascinating when you look at the politics and dare I say branding of adapting belief systems.
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
So interesting, and so much more complex than it’s often made out to be
@TalesFromTheHauntedLibrary
@TalesFromTheHauntedLibrary Жыл бұрын
I was in the UK for the first time last April, and my PLAN was to stop in York for lunch and a bit of exploring (I flew into Leeds and was headed for Whitby). It was my first time diving on the left, so I was a bit anxious already, and shortly after leaving the car rental shop my rented GPS died, leaving me lost and map-less in a foreign land. Not a single petrol station I stopped at had maps for sale, so I was in a bad, bad way. By some miracle I eventually found M62 and saw signs for Hull, and knowing it was on the coast I knew I could make it to Whitby if I followed the coast north from Hull. Yes, it was an absolutely mad plan, but I had no other options. Sadly, I never did get to York, but after roughly seven hours I did reach Whitby (via Hull) without a map or GPS, and now I'm a cracking-good left-hand driver.
@oldoneeye7516
@oldoneeye7516 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this episode. First of all something new for me (up until now, i wasnt interested in coins at all) and secondly another proof for something that I (who is working as a psychologist) always tell to people: Human behaviour and society is *never* just black and white. People will *always* find a middle ground if left alone. Not always a fair one (honestly, I believe pretty much never a fair one), but always some kind of compromise. We are a social species and that is how social interaction works. So there is no good/bad pagan/christian - there is people. Who try to find ways to compromise. Thanks Jimmy and happy that the patreon thingy helps so much. It doesnt hurt me for sure, so why not?
@rosemadder5547
@rosemadder5547 Жыл бұрын
So crazy, I was reading about welsh Gael’s just this morning while reading more about my sons name ( which is Lochlain)
@anieth
@anieth Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! I wrote a history novel set about the Norman conquest of Inishowen. I think that the years between 500 and 1200 were utterly fascinating in this part of the world. Especially the blood flowing back and forth in the Islands, Ireland, Iceland and Scotland. I'm a MacDonald of Skye, but one side of my ancestors were Glencoe refugees who settled in Tyrone and married into the O'Siadhails who were a medical clan in service to the O'Neills. That ancestor went to Dublin for work, married a Protestant girl and had to flee to his uncle in the States who was so famous that Tyrone has a museum for his work in helping the Irish Catholic cause in the States. But his daughter married a Swede and so again, mixed the blood, but her daughter married in the MacDonalds of Skye again (not knowing) and so my cousins play the pipes and participate in the Highland Games every year. I look more Norwegian than Welsh, although my father's family was part of a band of Welsh Baptists who fled King Charles and were secretly practicing in the States and intermarrying(!) until they lost their lands during the War between the States. But what's so fascinating is the Celtic slaves mingling into the Norse, and the Norse going native in Britain. Can you call you banner, the banner of Bran? I mean, since you're Welsh, Bran is your man! :D Wonderful video, Jimmy. I love it when you take us down these rabbit holes. Of course, I love the history, too!
@theresaanndiaz3179
@theresaanndiaz3179 Жыл бұрын
I made a parade banner with appliqued and embroidered symbols almost 20 years ago for our guild AR RenFaire and it's still going strong. It was inspired by the banners I've seen in church pageant parades. I was looking at sprucing it up this year but I'm undecided on wether to mend or just make a new one. It's quite large about 3 feet wide by 4 feet tall and we quickly found out it wanted to be a sail. I ended up putting decorative holes on it to keep it from going airborne. So before you decorate the banner take it out for a trial run. For our banner I also have a cup on my belt take some of the weight. It has a cross piece on top and bottom with several brass bells sewn on the bottom as weights. If I had it to do over again, I think I would use silk instead of the cotton twill I used but then it wouldn't hold up the stump work.
@ah5721
@ah5721 Жыл бұрын
yay Jimmy !! Glad your feeling better ! thanks for these interesting historical bits !
@ksbrook1430
@ksbrook1430 Жыл бұрын
I very much appreciate the way you unravel the details of the past and support it with examples. It is easy to forget that a political mis-step could cost you your life back then, not just your position; leaders had to be quite savvy. The mixing of symbols on coinage makes sense.
@MastemaJack
@MastemaJack Жыл бұрын
I love how you used CK3 to explain a point. That game is awesome
@ladyliberty417
@ladyliberty417 Жыл бұрын
Great video Jimmy, love your scholarship, the clash and meshing of paganism and Christianity is always intriguing , Wish I could visit York❗️
@mandylavida
@mandylavida Жыл бұрын
I could listen to you all day. Another interesting and funny video. Many thanks.
@Tiger89Lilly
@Tiger89Lilly Жыл бұрын
That is so interesting how in the early medieval period rulers were so diplomatic as to make sure that everyone in the city of York could trade and do business. I've never been big into coins but I am definitely going to check out ethelred the Unready's hand of God coin (I wonder if it has Maradona on the otherside 🙄😂) thanks again Jimmy keep up the good work. I can't support you financially if I want to keep my own heating on but hopefully my silly little comment will show my support in some tiny way
@thebelfastvikingmartinbrow3603
@thebelfastvikingmartinbrow3603 Жыл бұрын
I nearly brought two raven coins from Etsy for less than £3.50 but they wanted £8.50 post lol 🤣
@chrish2277
@chrish2277 Жыл бұрын
I hope everyone has a roaring time at Jorvik. Glad to see you posting again, Jimmy.
@curlyclaire2
@curlyclaire2 Жыл бұрын
Lovely to see your face and hear your voice Jimmy, but I can't follow most of your story because there are no subtitles on this one. 😔
@janetmackinnon3411
@janetmackinnon3411 Жыл бұрын
So pleased to hear your thiughts! Always a delight to read clear arguments.Thankt you
@perefalc
@perefalc Жыл бұрын
I remember reading somewhere (sorry I can't cite my sources) about how most of the animals associated with Odin were also seen as scavengers in battlefields, such as ravens, eagles, wolves, etc. Supposedly in the sagas if someone was followed by these animals, in addition to being seen as a sort of blessing by Odin, that it meant that they killed a lot of people with great regularity, and the animals followed them around for an east meal.
@cork..
@cork.. Жыл бұрын
Every day that I wake up to a notification for a New Jimmy™ is a good day. Also Editing Jimmy is my not-so-secret fave.
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
He’s everyone’s long-suffering but good natured friend
@cork..
@cork.. Жыл бұрын
@@TheWelshViking he's my inside voice yelling at me while I'm rambling
@LivesOnStars
@LivesOnStars Жыл бұрын
That raven symbol already looked very familiar, and as soon as I heard 'casus belli' in relation to religion, my ck3-senses perked up. Always such a shame to lose the holy war option when you eventually convert. Then you feudalize, lose invade as well, and you'll actually have to start getting creative with claims, ugh.
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it’s so much harder being legal!
@RandiPoitras
@RandiPoitras Жыл бұрын
Huzzah, an actual reason to celebrate today! For Jimmy has bestowed upon us a new video!! Mayhaps it shall include some viking rants?
@cherub2918
@cherub2918 Жыл бұрын
Lovely video! Thank you for the content! Your videos are always so interesting and i really appreciate the sources and advice.
@linr8260
@linr8260 Жыл бұрын
I saw the preview's small text and started laughing. Have fun at the festival!
@burntimeUK
@burntimeUK Жыл бұрын
nice vid :) i've been to the Jorvik festival a few times, always great fun! nothing quite like popping to the lav and coming back to find the pub is suddenly ram packed with a troop of viking spearmen hahahaha, not this year unfortunately, hope you have a great time!
@WarDogMadness
@WarDogMadness Жыл бұрын
It Was nice meeting you and fighting alongside ya bud. Oh and great video theres not enough videos looking at the development of kingdoms and the struggles of ruling two diffrent populations or coins there needs more coin vids.
@samuelleask1132
@samuelleask1132 Жыл бұрын
Definitely in the mood for cool professor Jimmy today 😄
@TheGamingBDGR
@TheGamingBDGR Жыл бұрын
Honestly the list of what goes on in a monastery at 5:22 is a pretty good to-do list for the day. Might start wistfully gazing around lunch time more often.
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me a little to the Merseburg charms. They are two pagan incantations (with the intent of healing) which have been written down by a Christian monk in the 10th century into a book containing Christian texts. (Look it up in the Wikipedia. ... Btw. are links enabled in this comment section?) When I visited the museum in Merseburg, I read there that this origin shows that pagan magic was seen as somewhat equal to Christian prayer. Or at least not as something devilish. Otherwise, they wouldn't have included those spells into a collection of Christian texts.
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
By *some* it was seen as just as useful. By *some* others it was punishable by torture/death. But yeah, it’s a fascinating collection, isn’t it? :)
@catherinerw1
@catherinerw1 Жыл бұрын
I love the wording "didn't stop being very cross with them"! Have you been teaching primary age kids by any chance? (They'd be lucky kids if so).
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
I have!
@melissamybubbles6139
@melissamybubbles6139 Жыл бұрын
I could have sworn I was subscribed. I just noticed that I wasn't. How could I not be subscribed to Jimmy?
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@Aswaguespack
@Aswaguespack Жыл бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 wonderful narrative and well communicated. Bravo!
@roxiepoe9586
@roxiepoe9586 Жыл бұрын
Having been born in a family with the name Poe, I have always used the Raven as my symbol. :)
@Blunderbat
@Blunderbat Жыл бұрын
Really interesting video as always, thank you again for clearing up misnomers!
@nadiavasylieva2238
@nadiavasylieva2238 Жыл бұрын
Also few of those birds are on the runic stones in Norway and Sweden, my reenactment club also uses one of those as a banner, but we prefer to call it an eagle rather than a raven.) Still this is pure imagination to make our reenactment a little bit fuller then it is; we should never forget the difference between what we know 100% and presumptions made along the way.
@Aswaguespack
@Aswaguespack Жыл бұрын
I’m calling it Jimmy’s Penny !
@studious_nonchalance
@studious_nonchalance Жыл бұрын
Fascinating bit of history. Thank you!
@HotDogTimeMachine385
@HotDogTimeMachine385 Жыл бұрын
This was a really cool history/culture lesson. Thank you!
@enariva669
@enariva669 Жыл бұрын
Entertaining and educating as ever 😎
@kyerin
@kyerin Жыл бұрын
Love the sass and thanks for a fun video, I didn't know anything about this!
@jjpnw
@jjpnw Жыл бұрын
"Wistful gazing" really tickled me.
@Graham_Rule
@Graham_Rule Жыл бұрын
Good to see you looking well Jimmy. I'm unlikely to be in York any time soon but would be happy to see you if you make it back to Edinburgh. When you had those different coins (pagan / christian) I can't believe there was never any commerce between those groups and wonder what they exchange rate was.
@SirFrederick
@SirFrederick Жыл бұрын
My Viking Group used a banner of a dragon with interwoven grape vines, because Vineland.
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
Hah! Fun!
@Hair8Metal8Karen
@Hair8Metal8Karen Жыл бұрын
I always imagine that the little footnotes that pop up on the screen make you the costube equivalent of Deadpool. Or Terry Pratchett *. *Or both. You never did see the two of them in the same room together.
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
Such honour you do me!
@Angel_1394
@Angel_1394 Жыл бұрын
This is so interesting, coins can tell a lot about a time period in history. A ton of history all around a penny. Hope the festival was fun!
@corrugatedcavalier5266
@corrugatedcavalier5266 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Coinage is always so interesting.
@judithlashbrook4684
@judithlashbrook4684 Жыл бұрын
I've read a few papers that claim that the norse raven was in fact a jackdaw and that the type of corvid that was venerated by the norse was lost in translation... only kidding, but I do wonder how they "know" that that bird on the coin wasn't a chaffinch or a dove? As always love your content and thank you for sharing!
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
I’d love it to be a chaffinch!
@judithlashbrook4684
@judithlashbrook4684 Жыл бұрын
@@TheWelshViking I can see that, a very handsome, intelligent bird...
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 Жыл бұрын
Lol, I have looked up medieval imagery of animals one time and found a bird where I don't know whether it's supposed to be a corvid or some kind of bird of prey. It's black but the beak looks more hawk-like. Probably the famed eagle crow.
@meamela9820
@meamela9820 Жыл бұрын
History is complicated and that is so fascinating and makes me so happy to learn about!
@TheEggmaniac
@TheEggmaniac Жыл бұрын
Interesting video as usual. I watched it with The Raven track, by The Stranglers, playing in the background, which seemed to enhance it.
@oldmanofthemountains3388
@oldmanofthemountains3388 Жыл бұрын
What a fascinating video !!!
@lordofuzkulak8308
@lordofuzkulak8308 Жыл бұрын
Are there any Viking depictions of dragons that would look good on a banner if you’re making a banner for yourself? Y’know, given that you’re username is The _Welsh_ Viking and all; would be a nice little nod to that while still fitting in. 😉
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
Now, there are some VA dragons out there, and I may or may not have had this exact thought the other day! We shall see…
@Bildgesmythe
@Bildgesmythe Жыл бұрын
Yes! Dragons! When I draw ravens they look like chickens
@victoriacooper3291
@victoriacooper3291 Жыл бұрын
Super interesting!! So excited for Jorvik!!
@katienewell7350
@katienewell7350 Жыл бұрын
This was a brilliant video, thank you!
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@andersnygaard909
@andersnygaard909 Жыл бұрын
Oh! Ooo! I have a contribution - maybe there's a video in it? If you want that specific banner shape with a bird on it, look at the weathervanes on the Norwegian stave churches. These are actual "vindfløyer" - what Eigil's mum told him to buy in that poem. They're from norse ships, used for navigation and later repurposed by or donated to the Church. They have many different decorations, but I remember seeing at least one with a bird (not a raven, though) in the Ringerike style.
@hic_tus
@hic_tus Жыл бұрын
a lot of cross-contamination back then. eh? what?
@EA-History
@EA-History 10 ай бұрын
The bird symbol could be assosiated both ways, as christians also could see it as a symbol of the holy spirit (which usually would be a pigeon). The raven banner looks good and is cool, so use it! What I believe could be the main reason behind a ruler making your own coin is power policy and money policy, later on as a source of state development. You want people to use YOUR coin, and preferably your coin only. An interesting note is that also the high clergy also made their own coin, like the medieval archbishops of Nidaros had their own mint smith. (this is excavated in Trondheim, the archbishops manor, Nidaros. That was an enforced policy in 11th century Norway. Atleast from Harald Hardrade and following kings. My reference is Bagge et al. Dreyer 2012; chapter 4: Gullbekk, "Myntvesenet som kilde til statsutvikling 1050-1080" (The mint as a source of state development 1050-1080)
@SkylerLinux
@SkylerLinux 11 ай бұрын
The more I watch your Viking Stuff, the more I'm certain that the most Viking thing we can do in the modern day is to mix a bunch of religious stuff.
@christopherstorey1125
@christopherstorey1125 Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid, thanks!
@tillysrad
@tillysrad Жыл бұрын
god wouldnt it be tight as hell to get some idea of what the ravens looked like on the banners though. obviously the raven on the coin is cool, id not give it up for the world, but in the back of my mind theres always going to be that knowledge that images on coins are going to face some artistic difficulties anyway, barely related but i wanna bring it up because i think its really funny - theres another good english coin from about a century before amlaíb was doing his thing, minted by offa of mercia. basically what was PROBABLY a moroccan coin somehow ended up on the shores of england and he was so taken with the arabic text on it he decided to ape it for his own mints, cluelessly inscribing "there is no god but god and mohammad is the prophet of god" alongside big letters saying offa rex. dude was like hell yeah this coin is awesome im gonna show everyone what a cool and powerful christian king i am by copying these squiggly lines here that probably dont mean anything anyway, jimmy is probably fully aware of this himself, but ill take any opportunity to bring it up bc like. lmao happy st valentimes everynyan
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
So cool. History is just the best! Man, I’d love to find an image of an actual raven on an actual banner. Think Bayeux is the closest we have, birb for birb
@knutanderswik7562
@knutanderswik7562 Жыл бұрын
I agree, given this period's love of decoration the coin design's minimalism, which appeals so much to our modern taste, has to be seen as a concession to the medium. I would suggest the raven from the Sutton Hoo shield for an idea of the density of elaboration, maybe updated with contemporary Borre-style interlacing.
@knutanderswik7562
@knutanderswik7562 Жыл бұрын
@@TheWelshViking there are embroidered birds among the Oseberg finds but I am sorry to say they look like ducks and, being silk, probably come from somewhere else. (edit: forgive me, I looked them up, they are woven not embroidered)
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the liturgical coat in the cathedral treasure of Halberstadt that has "God protect the Sultan" woven into it. 15th century, cloth imported from the orient.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Jimmy, how do you like your Valknuts; salted or unsalted? Thanks for another great video.
@Ashley_tipsyshades
@Ashley_tipsyshades Жыл бұрын
You showed your mug, and my brain has spent far too much time with my toddler and immediately just answered CHOO CHOO!
@cmunson59
@cmunson59 Жыл бұрын
loving the beard!
@Th3GreenMachine
@Th3GreenMachine Жыл бұрын
Amazing, absolutely flawless
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
No u
@kristya4739
@kristya4739 Жыл бұрын
So well said! This video is awesome! I love learning new things. Also, curious what the original coins were made of? They look bronze but im guessing thats age? Were they silver? Thanks!
@suzz1776
@suzz1776 Жыл бұрын
As a coin collector, I really enjoyed this video.
@TheSaneHatter
@TheSaneHatter Жыл бұрын
I only WISH that I could make The Viking Festival in York: I haven’t even been able to visit the Renaissance Faire in my own home state in 19 years!😢 Yorkshire Tea is as close as I can get at the moment….oh, wait, I guess it’s not all bad.☕️
@mouthforwar17
@mouthforwar17 Жыл бұрын
I hope you will grace us with a nice video about the York viking festival, for those of use who can't make it.
@mostlycusimbored
@mostlycusimbored Жыл бұрын
Always awesome stuff
@pulliss
@pulliss Жыл бұрын
Bow and arrow symbol is fascinating, since it is also symbol of my home region in eastern Finland. History of Savonian bow be traced at least to 16th century, but might be older.
@hotspurre
@hotspurre Жыл бұрын
Great video and fascinating. I've never seen the banner penny - I had seen the quarter circle banner iconography but did not know its source. As I recall, Harald Hardrada had a banner named "land waster," but it's not described other than its name, and Jarl Sigurd of the Orkney Isles had a banner with a bad reputation - I know there's a song that calls that banner the "Raven Banner," but I'm fairly sure it's never referred as such in _Njal's Saga._
@Malekh
@Malekh Жыл бұрын
On the topic of mixed symbolism the Jelling rune stone, a testament to Denmark becoming christian, has an image of Jesus that looks like he's being crucified hanging in a tree, a very Odin-like depiction.
@carolynwatson4301
@carolynwatson4301 11 ай бұрын
My grandkids built a fortress in the backyard. They had a drawn bow banner for their banner. They mostly did it because they love the movie Brave. But Isaiah and Robert stormed the fortress while the girls threw water balloons and wet sponges on them. The boys claimed they were viking raiders. It was fun.
@clairemullin249
@clairemullin249 Жыл бұрын
Mòran taing! Fascinating stuff as always. This may sound weird, but any chance you could show us what the pictures on your wall are? Also, when in Jorvik please buy a mug from my friend Emma of Bogborn Crafts. She's with Hamish on the Pictavia stall.
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
I’ll go and have a look and say hello! Sorry, pictures stay blurry unless I get permission :)
@hannaaxelsson3687
@hannaaxelsson3687 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, if you brought your raven coin to a local tavern you could buy a whole cup of caw-fee!
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking Жыл бұрын
Very, very thin ice. 😂
@robintheparttimesewer6798
@robintheparttimesewer6798 Жыл бұрын
Nice. I have always been fascinated by coins. It’s really amazing what has survived
@gadgetgirl02
@gadgetgirl02 Жыл бұрын
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