Is the Warcry: Monsters & Mercenaries Expansion For You?

[@patrickmchugh948]

Just started getting into WH this year at age 50. Have been a D&D player since the 80’s. Been mainly into the hobby aspect of painting miniatures but have been trying to play WH with my two sons and at the local GW. Tough to keep up with the expansions though especially with how long it takes to paint. Still love my new hobby.

[@tabletopminions]

The trick is, you don’t have to keep up with the the expansions. Only buy what you want to play, especially if you’re mainly playing with your sons. Have fun, and thanks for watching!

[@patrickmchugh948]

@@tabletopminions Your videos have been great! Great inspiration. I especially liked the one on how to continue as we get older. haha.

[@jasperpott6341]

"I wish they were fish people, but they actually are just wet elves" Can someone make a nice t-shirt or mug with this?

[@FatherKarl]

Jasper Pott absolutely should be a shirt.

[@TheCimbrianBull]

I bursted out laughing when he said that! 🤣 😂 😅

[@EasilyDistractedPlanner]

I'd need a shirt or mug like that for my local GW manager XD

[@brandnewstereo]

Made me chuckle alot!

[@vishishify]

I'm honestly not interested in table top gaming but your voice is just so soothing that I cant help but watch your videos. Plus I can see how passionate you are about all of this and that's always endearing.

[@JMcomicsHd]

Warcry is going in a direction I wish kill team went.

[@CesarIsaacPerez]

I'm loving Warcry and can't wait to get my copy of Monsters and Mercenaries! I have 7 Warbands (3 of the Warcry Chaos kits + 4 from the stuff I had already collected) And now just get to play with more of my old toys in a new way. Really looking forward to more Warbands getting added, I'm waiting for the 2 new ones to be revealed and hope they let me make warbands from my Khorne and Tzeentch armies!

[@bloodnivel70]

The minis definitely look interesting. btw, I hope you make a full recover from that cold.

[@jasonrhome710]

The risk/reward aspect of getting the monsters into your party is a really cool idea!

[@ARCHANGEvideo]

''Wet Elves'' - TM - Septembre 2019

[@SciFiPorkChop28]

Lol... yeah.. every time he says "wet elves' I giggle.

[@TheDeliciousMystery]

The Kill Team expansions utterly killed the game in my area with a common sentiment of "this is just a scam to slowly sell armies to people who didn't want a full army" with lots of expectations for vehicles and units coming down the line. Didn't quite turn out that way but they put out a lot of content at a pace that put people off with the assumption its fast follow up meant it was always planned to drop expansions after the players already bought in that felt mandatory. Thing is the same people play Underworlds and have no problem buying damn near everything and now they play warcry but are getting wary again. Personally i think its 'premade teams vs bring your own models from another system' that puts people in that mindset. Hopefully release exhaustion doesnt put people off again but only times gonna tell.

[@cronotekk9193]

It helps that the warcry expansion is only 25 and very optional

[@chrisfreeman4687]

you mean a company that sells things wants you to buy more things? GASP!!!!!W

[@cronotekk9193]

@@chrisfreeman4687 There are plenty of miniature companies that aren't like this, but please keep bootlicking a corporation that doesnt care about you

[@Dash277]

Apropos of nothing... I went to my first Games Workshop store yesterday wearing my PACHOW shirt.

[@Tombonzo]

The Fated Quests are actually 4 New Campaigns that any Warband can embark on. They are not faction specific. You don’t do them in the middle of any current campaign, they’re their own Campaign. @8:40 This is definitely a “Should Get” add on for anyone into Warcry!

[@dangilchrist2282]

It's a weird book, no allies for Stormcast Vanguard, and some of the ghost allies can't fly! Think it was a little rushed..

[@popburnsy3207]

To be fair, Warcry using only Stormcast Vanguard but not the rest of the Stormcast range seems like a weird move, unless they were planning a second(or more) wave(s) of non-Chaos and Chaos additions later on(which we kind of know they're going to), too.

[@toomanyhobbies116]

Pretty sure if you check out the GW website and learn more about the book, you can include other Stormcast models outside of the vanguard.

[@dangilchrist2282]

@@toomanyhobbies116 sounds good, where abouts are you looking?

[@toomanyhobbies116]

@@dangilchrist2282 I can't find it atm but I'm sure I saw it, and it's heavily implied in a picture on here: www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/02/monsters-mercenaries-awesomeness-for-everyone/

[@dangilchrist2282]

Clayton Mallatt aye, I can see it’s implied, there’s even pictures in the book. The problem is the book explicitly omits the vanguards rune marks in places where it should be. 90% sure it’s a mistake and will be sorted in the errata.

[@voxkine9385]

I haven’t actually played the new expansion yet, but I’m really looking forward to it. My LGS is having a tournament to get people together for it at the end of the month and I’m playing splintered fang. I picked up 2 boxes of splintered fang to change some lists around, but the mercenaries give me yet another set of options to build around with. Personally, I’m a fan of what I’ve seen (though, again, I’ve not PLAYED it yet) even if I think they might have rushed it out a bit soon.

[@SigfridSWE]

I think they've done an awesome job in AoS. WH Underworlds is the competative game (specialized competative). And then Warcry, specialized narretiv campaign. Smart, really smart. The problem in 40k is that Kill Team has do to both for the gaming system right now and thats not good

[@SciFiPorkChop28]

that's a very good point... I think Kill Team: Arena was supposed to be the "shadespire" of 40K but it doesn't seem like that happened (at least in my area). I've been trying to avoid Warcy for a bunch of reasons, not the least if which is that Kill Team let me down... but I do see that they are very different games and I do think that having more realistic expectations for what the game does and does not do is key to whether I should take the plunge or not.

[@EasilyDistractedPlanner]

"Is there a tournament scene?" Ehh... Well, I'm currently prepping to have my first tournament of Warcry today XD But it's just locally and just for a single day. Kill Team last year had about 12 weeks of 'tournament', which was also fun, but we had a huge loss of players over those weeks, so I like the single day tournament better for this. Plus, Warcry games take an hour tops, over Kill Team which I've never managed to finish in under 2 hours.

[@NickDoranAdams]

Do you do podcasts? I'd love to be able to listen to your insight while walking the dog...

[@tabletopminions]

There’s not a Tabletop Minions podcast, but I do co-host a podcast about building gaming community and getting into gaming called The GameFor Podcast. You can find it through most podcast providers. Thanks for watching?

[@dannythompson5506]

Hello mate I have just started to watch your channel i don’t do social media so can only talk here really or email but I got in to the modelling side of things about ten years ago cos iam very ill physically so I done it to pass the time I have never played the game and four the last 4or5 Year’s haven’t even picked my brush up I can paint to some sort of standard but it takes me ages haven’t painted a hole army yet but would really like to get back in to it all do u think that kill team and warcry would b a good way to do this or not and I like the look of black fortress but iam wounding would it have to much going on where I’ve never played sorry 4 going on but if u could get back to me would really appreciate it thanks . Hope your cold is getting better 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@mouseketeery]

Hope you don't mind me butting in, but I'd say Kill Team and/or Warcry would be good ways to get back into hobbying, simply because you don't have huge model counts. Blackstone Fortress is also cool, there are more models involved but they can be interesting to paint because they're mostly individual characters - no massed ranks of more or less identical models. Also, Blackstone Fortress can be played on your own, which might be helpful if getting out to meet other potential players is difficult for you - you'd still get to be involved in a narrative game.

[@dannythompson5506]

Thanks mate 👍🏻👍🏻

[@NOOBATRON-bs4jo]

did you use liquid green stuff on the cairn wraith, cause it looks like dry bush but something else. also dose anyone else know, cause I just bought a nighthaunt army and that cairn wraith looks sick

[@tabletopminions]

I did use Liquid Green Stuff. In fact, it’s one of my earlier videos, called “The Real Use for Liquid Green Stuff” where I talked about how I did it. Thanks for watching!

[@NOOBATRON-bs4jo]

@@tabletopminions thanks so much man, I wasn't sure cause usually you PA chow lol. also thanks for all the help, your channels really made getting into the hobby easier.

[@naphaneal]

where's the skeleton dragon from?

[@mogwaiman6048]

Age of Sigmar, Flesh-Eater Courts

[@tabletopminions]

He’s a Terrorgheist, but can be built a few different ways in the same kit. Thanks for watching!

[@twizz666ler]

but can I run a dwarf warband? Doesn't appear so, just from poking around the site.

[@styxxrivers7576]

Thanks for talking about this. I think I am too old to buy into this Paid DLC that used to be in our games when we bought them. You said yourself the book was small then you say that after 10 pages there is a bunch of just PICTURES. So really how big is the rule set? I REMEMBER WHEN, you had Advanced rules sections included in the games we used to purchase.

[@WTheRegulator]

Well I like monsters, and mercenaries are cool I guess, so maybe?

[@mohastgridlock]

More Warcry videos please!

[@rafalandruszkiewicz9664]

I was waiting for a copy of Warcry ordered online, but as soon as GW announced this tsunami of expansions and add-ons (including M&M) I cancelled my order immediately. I could not possibly paint on time it and enjoy it before the next big thing comes in (and still pay dearly for this "pleasure").

[@oakshand149]

I don't understand what this "tsunami" of add-ons is that you are referencing. They added this book and as far as I know they haven't even announced anything else for warcry. And this book is entirely about bringing models you already have or give you an excuse to go grab one lol.

[@rafalandruszkiewicz9664]

Probably at the time of ordering the starter box I did not see the all the extras released simultaneously (terrain, factions, etc.). But when I checked later at the GW website I decided this is too much for me. As 40K fan I do not even have any AoS models, so I did not want to play a catch up game with GW. Please do not get me wrong, Warcry looks pretty interesting, but it is not something I would spend time and money at the moment.

[@yuarthur455]

warcry battle report?

[@JPWestmas]

Why do we have to draw a line between competitive and campaigns? Is there no such thing as competitive campaigning?

[@lochmoigh1]

A little bit like pokemon. Amazing.

[@johnhoward7069]

"A mix of necromunda and kill team!" Everyone forgets Shadow war armageddon

[@haawkler3241]

that's because it was just there for the terrain

[@shrimperlincs3395]

Uncle WarCry! ♥️

[@MrCaryPetersen]

What are the 8 monsters?

[@elescapo]

Chaos Gargant, Chimera, Terrorgheist, Zombie Dragon, War Hydra, Kharybdiss, Gorgon, Cygor, Arachnarok Spider. (There's actually 9)

[@steveboyd3]

Still no skaven.... weird........

[@mogwaiman6048]

Skaven mercenaries.

[@agentrecon4983]

Will you be my uncle!?

[@MrKkrraattooss]

Im sorry for everyone that bought this. They could have put the rules online. Thats my issue with GW

[@Thanos730000]

Instead of match play tournaments why not campaign tournaments.

[@wombat74]

I look forward to playing Warhammon. Pokehammer?

[@ignitedxblaze]

I like Pokehammer, short for pocket warhammer.

[@gaustadtpanzer3606]

What proof does someone have if they have a new ability or weapon from playing this? What prevents them from making up a lie saying they played the quest to get it and never did, just to have it in an upcoming game? Especially against players that never played the person claiming this?

[@ff56hs]

A campaign is played with the same group of people

[@innapropiator8024]

I was really hoping, that Warcry would bring AoS to a more competetive level, just as Kill Team: Arena did. But until now I got to admit, I am vastly dissapointed. Since GW stated, that Warcry is gonna be the hybrid of Shadespire and Kill Team, wich it clearly is not. So until now I am not playing Warcry and won't do it, until an expansion is released, that gives that competetive game option to the game. And if it will not relaease, the game will not be interesting at all. Narrative is not interesting at all imo, so until now they push it in a direction I don't like. Like you video! Great work and good insight information!

[@sheepfly]

I think is really shitty that this isn't in the main book and is certainly not worth the price.

[@Volriker]

Well, GW always liked to split things into DLCs. Check their PC games...

[@mogwaiman6048]

That's just video games in general.

[@zerg0s]

...GW hasn't made a single PC game.

[@Volriker]

@@zerg0s Yes, they did. Just because they are not the producer named on the list does not mean that e.g. Warhammer Total War is not theirs. And my point is still valid.

[@zerg0s]

@@Volriker ...but it's not theirs. They sold a license to a third party, who then made the game. They have some creative input (TW guys mentioned in a few blog posts that they have meeting with GW guys about what they can and can't do with the lore) but monetization and game mechanics are up to those third parties, not GW.

[@lorddraconum]

This sounds like Ragnarok.

[@alcovitch]

As someone who got the starter set around launch, and is still in the process of painting the models, I wasn't super excited to hear the word "expansion" a month after release. I also couldn't care less about narrative play in any way. I just want to play some pick up open or matched play, so this book, being more than half that stuff (just like the "rule book" only having 15 pages of rules out of 150 ish....) isn't of super interest to me. It also seems, again from someone who doesn't have a huge collection (Warcry is mainly to get ppl into the hobby right?) that this is GW's way to go "pls buy models that no one buys!". Some factions have 6+ mercenaries and others (bonesplitterz) get 1. Seems all over the place. Not a fan of spending the cost of half a warband on 1 hero unit. It seems that the terrain, and now this book, is a way to sell recycled models that aren't flying off the shelves to ppl.

[@oakshand149]

Your idea of how this book and the mercenaries work is entirely wrong. You can take any merc from your grand alliance. So while Bonesplitterz only have 1 Merc they can also take any of the Gitz or Ironjawz mercenaries. Also they aren't ALL worth a third of a warband. The most expensive for Destruction is a Megaboss which yes is 255 points but that's relatively the same as a brute.

[@scathezombiestu]

Super frustrating that most videos reviewing these sort of products haven't actually played with them.

[@muhammadrazif6560]

You sound the same

[@tabletopminions]

Well, I appreciate that. My nose is still a bit plugged up so I feel ‘different’ talking. Also, both my ears are currently plugged up (fluid behind the ear drums) so I sound different to myself. That could be it, too. Thanks for watching!

[@jordanruark3993]

First!

[@bloodnivel70]

second!