Is the World Real or Just an Illusion?

[@jorgetfreitas3167]

Lose your interest in the superficial things contained in life and, in return, you will find the depth of life contained in all things. Thank you Rupert, you were simple and clear.

[@NLfrey]

One day, my friend offered to take shrooms and I decided to join in. During the trip, I had a realization about my understanding of nonduality. I pointed at the buildings across the canal and said to my friend, "Isn't it incredible that everything we see isn't even real?" This was a riddle I often used to reflect on nonduality. However, as I said it, I realized that I didn't actually believe or experience what I was saying. My friend responded cautiously, "Well, everything we see is real." This made me realize that my philosophy was not in alignment with my awakening experience. I began to view the concept of nonduality differently. I came to understand that there is a distinction between what we call the "world" and what we call the Earth. The "world" can be thought of as an illusion, a projection of our perception. However, by adjusting our perception to reality, we can see the real world. On the other hand, the Earth can be seen as a conscious being, similar to ourselves. Its physical manifestation can be thought of as the crystallization of consciousness. I hope this perspective helps.

[@TheAffrojutty]

Beautiful to have this simplicity given to us by Rupert. However to truly ‘know’ this in the heart will take more than listening to this 5 min explanation. An intellectual understanding yes but to undo the inherent beliefs we have about reality takes ‘time’ 🙏❤️

[@dennycote6339]

Why?! While we may settle into it but it is not required to take years.

[@michaelrainbow4203]

He just said in the video that it doesn't need to take a long time to "get it." Drop the beliefs.

[@TheAffrojutty]

@@michaelrainbow4203 Yes I understand what your saying but beliefs don’t just drop away because you have an intellectual understanding of something. Some beliefs yes but deep seated ones like the nature of reality will only be dropped through an experiential ‘knowing’. The mind knows nothing of reality 🙏❤️

[@michaelrainbow4203]

@@TheAffrojutty I understand that there is a process. I just found your comment funny considering what Rupert had stated in the video. Peace. ;-)

[@84sahi]

Right understanding takes 5 mins but to undo the beliefs and perceptions we have accumulated from previously births takes a lifetime. Also our own identities with the world based of this is real also needs tons be dissolved. It takes time

[@aswinp8659]

Reality is an illusion but the experience of the illusion is real

[@ShibaniSur]

The experiencer is the absolute reality, not the experience.

[@omtatsatification]

Depends on your interpretation of "reality". What is reality for you?

[@omtatsatification]

@@ShibaniSur THere is no experiencer. There is only That. Its all that ever was,and all that ever will be. And that is your identity.

[@ShibaniSur]

@@omtatsatification The experiencer is that. Brahman.

[@woopwoop6316]

that statement even fuck me more 😂😂😞

[@roxana6354]

The best analogy for the world is gold in forms of ring, necklace, bracelet,etc. There is nothing a ring apart from gold, there is nothing necklace apart from gold, all there is , is gold manifesting in different shapes. All the world is Consciousness manifesting in the forms if matter. 💜💜💜💜

[@marks8432]

@SIMPLY HUMAN I'm curious. You sending these messages how is it helpful, Beyond helping you to feel good or whatever you're getting from it.

[@marks8432]

@SIMPLY HUMAN I take it, that you just can't help yourself lol. This site is filled with your messages of you just talking at people. and constantly telling people the way things are, according to your views. Oh well to each their own I guess.

[@marks8432]

@SIMPLY HUMAN when you go on a site like Rupert's, of course it is expected that he's the one that's going to be doing the talking. So that seems a little bit different.

[@marks8432]

@SIMPLY HUMAN I go on a lot of KZbin sites, and read lots of comments. It's rare that I come across somebody who has posted as many things as you do. and who seems to be constantly talking AT people. I'm not the only person on here who has commented on this. so take it as you will. I have little doubt that you will spin this a different way lol.

[@marks8432]

@SIMPLY HUMAN the first message that I ever sent to you. I mentioned that there were some things that you said, that I was interested in. And some things that I wasn't interested in. On here you constantly have an answer for no matter what anyone says. it's like you have the whole thing drawn out ahead of time. And you just go back to it for the answers. to me that's not learning. Or being in the moment. Oh well.

[@kateevans4886]

Rupert at his clearest, most concise…..shining with knowledge and understanding, take what he is giving and let it melt your heart. 🙏🏼💖🙏🏼

[@nurayylmaz8384]

'Whereever you turn, there is only the face of God.' This is actually a verse (Ayah Al-Baqarah)/(the Cow 2:115) from the Quran. I really like the way you look at enlightenment and spiritualism, Rupert. Thank you so much.🙏

[@nurayylmaz8384]

@@katsrk3039 For me enlightenment is the Prophet Muhammad's ascension or the night journey where he is believed to meet God on that night.That means he discovered the truth about being human. And we are all khalifas (viceroy, successive human) of God just like Moses, Jesus, Muhammad. “And when your Lord said to the angels, I am going to place in the earth a Khalifah, they said: what! Will You place in it such as shall make mischief in it ...And actually all the story starts off with this hadith qudsi: 'God said' I was a hidden treasure; I loved to be known. Hence I created the world to be known and I created the human to know. If you ask me, enlightenment is to realize this truth.

[@I-Am-Aware]

So clear. Thank you, Rupert, for doing such an amazing job of sharing insights that Beings might not otherwise realize. From Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj to a seeker: "Call it a dream and be done with it." 🙏

[@PaulLangan1]

Rupert's wisdom. Distillation in simple terms. Comprehension. Love. Awareness.

[@consciousnessbasedcosmos]

What Rupert says if of course true. The world is real but not physically so. The fact that cannot be disputed is no one has ever experienced physical things directly. All we have ever known and can can ever experience is our own consciousness. Having said that, we cannot force ourselves to experience the world as if in a dream which is how real sages experience the world. To them the waking world is no different from a dream, only longer. Its not just a concept or an idea, but really experienced as such. This transition will only happen when the ego is totally dissolved. When the ego is destroyed, whatever it has constructed will be destroyed too. Chief among these is the belief in the physical reality of the world.

[@moonglow6639]

"Nothing exists; everything appears to exist" - Nisargadatta Maharaj

[@shinjitsumasayoshi9072]

You are not born to this world, the world is born into you - Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj. You are that witness conciseness unborn, deathless and continues

[@HemPat56]

So beautifully explained. Thank you Rupert. 🙏😊

[@cosmiccreator]

💫 Such wonderful clarity! 🙌 Oh thank you and bless you beloved! 🥰🙏💐

[@innerlight617]

So true what he says about Ramana and Nisargadatta!ॐ ❤ I have a huge amount of respect for Ramana and infinite love for Nisargadatta ,the earnest study of his teaching,gave shape to my non-dual understanding.

[@axelantonsen4373]

what I am getting of this is that my being, even my "bad" habits such as watching youtube videos, while my mind says I should concentrate on meditation etc. is happening very naturally, and is my "being", that is my way of being naturally, without trying to do anything other than what just happens. I have often wanted to get away from this natural thing, to do something more productive for my spiritual growth. But as the world is just infitie being, infinite me doing what I feel like in the moment, if I just go with that flow, and yield to what is OBVIOUSLY happening by itself, that being of myself, will shine through and by living it, it can be used to find true reality and peace.

[@EXoTjC]

we are consciousnesses within consciousness, dreams within dreams

[@victoria.xseven7913]

Exactly: what is the definition of "real"? We think "real" is something we can touch. But when we touch things are we even touching them? What are those things anyway? We go down and down and down and those "real things" aren't "real" anyway, because they're not even "really" there. So what we mean is, our experience of "reality" is "real". And because "reality" isn't really there anyway, what we actually mean is our "experience"! So our experience is real. Reality is our experience.

[@victoria.xseven7913]

Not to disrepute science or anything at all, but isn't science the how, the mechanics, the measurement of one thing against another, in-fact the measurement of the unknown against the "known". And when we realise what we think we know is not really a known at all, or it's only a known in comparison with another known, then we know there are no knowns and everything is open to interpretation.

[@Janardhanpersonal]

Worlds best and no 1 Spiritual teacher Guru ever before in the history of this planet.

[@cuttingthrough4718]

Is that which is experienced in a dream real or unreal? Can dualistic words describe that which is non-dual and beyond words?

[@markusbieler5384]

I have one question though, especially since Rupert mentions Ukraine here- If one takes the nondual teachings wouldn't it be correct to state: In reality there is no Putin and no Zelensky---both are one; consciousness or beingness assumes the roles of the attacker and defender and the bullet and the rocket , the villain and the culprit and all the people dying and dead are beingness itself attacking and dissolving itself?

[@marka2188]

Let’s take two words: water-moon and rabbit-horn. I define water-moon as the image of the moon we see on water. Rabbit-horn is the image of a rabbit with a horn or a horn came from a rabbit. Are these real? Both are appearance in mind - if you like you can say appearances in consciousness. Water-moon is a reflection of a real thing but NOT the real thing. Rabbit-horn is a pure imagination but an image based on two real things (rabbit and horn). In summary Things always appear in consciousness (or with the consciousness) but what appears is only a representation and sometimes what appears is pure imagination based on what mind got exposed to before.

[@jonathansturm4163]

Twenty years? Psh, I spent 51 years from the age of 21 to reach the point where your explanation makes perfect sense in a few brief minutes. Aided and abetted by reading George Berkley, Baruch Spinoza, René Descartes, the Sufis, the Roman Stoics and many other thinkers. Stirring stuff!

[@uk_picker7307]

Rene Descartes refuted his own thought experiments.. or should I say they refute themselves... however we perceive the external world is indeed our shared objective reality.. regardless if we have subjective experience of said shared reality doesnt change the fact that the external world does indeed exist independent of your perception of it.. that's like saying because we don't see a chair as frequencies and molecules we are hallucinating a chair 😂.. no thats just how we see the chair with our human sensory perception. It all seems a bit pointless

[@controllerbrain]

Which is better, erkat toll or robert spira?

[@Tleon51]

I have a hearing challenge. Could someone spell the name of the three individual Rupert feels were significant to introducing the west to Vedanta. Especially the name of the one who is not well known according to Rupert. Thank you to whoever provide the spelling of the names and thank you Rupert for sharing.

[@yelp005]

Atmananda Krishna Menon is the lesser known.

[@yelp005]

Krishna Menon said such things as: “Perception proves only the existence of knowledge and not the existence of the object.” And: “Knowing proves only knowledge, and not the object as is ordinarily understood.”

[@aed1605]

Vedanta and non-duality is not God-Realization. God-Realization is God-Realization, that is, simply, Realization of God. A Sovereign Consciousness. And super-spiritual experiences and visions of God. Religion is closer to Trut than non-duality. Anyone who claims to be God is deluded. Non-duality is partly true. Rupert is not God-Realized.

[@mikealtrin7453]

Nisagardatta Maharaj

[@rolinolandi]

The world is not real. Because all experiences don't last. While you experience it the world seems real. Anything that changes is impermanent. Experiences come and go. Moreover, the impermanent is pervaded by the screen of the SELF. Therefore, the changing world is the SELF also.

[@NoRaengs99]

This is what I needed. Now I clearly know the difference between illusion and not real. Indescribably grateful to Rupert

[@asokanshaju8281]

Fantastic explanation 👌🌟just gave me a new way to understand the world I love in 🎊💫🎉🤝🙏

[@wattaura7621]

💚

[@timjonesvideos]

He gets paid well for waffling on about things he finds interesting, more power to him. I doubt every single word he says is God's own truth, but I do like him.

[@austin426512]

Had he been a pastor, he would be owning jets and yachts. He is spreading the knowledge of modern sages on Advaitha or universal consciousness

[@Casey35516]

All matter is energy. However we have eyes but cannot see and ears but cannot hear.

[@IVANHOECHAPUT]

Hmmm... I was expecting Rupert to say physical reality was not real as other physicists have been trying to ram down my throat. Surprise!

[@kathrynphillips3710]

Love & appreciate you 💗 Thankyou🙏

[@ilaannwhite3094]

So very helpful. I cannot understand neo-Avaita, but I understand this.

[@alertstillness592]

Rupert is like an advanced Spiritual procedural manual that aspirants on the path can refer to so that we don't end up on a tangent path and off the cliff

[@RT-fr9tn]

Thank you Rupert for explaining it so well... and for being so candid that you too had grappled with it 😉. I struggle with it 🤦‍♀ and this really clarified with the screen metaphor. Thank you for posting this 🙏 Rima

[@cg3ly]

OMG!

[@herrgegenwart5037]

For me is at this question always that most exciting that it is all the same for a consciousness. The experiencing consciousness experiences everything what appears in the spirit, a distinction between something comes directly from the spirit, or it still has information of an outside world is not to be distinguished for the consciousness..... Thus illusion and reality are one and the same...

[@Subo65]

Illusion is misinterpreted when the person who senses an object, when that person looses ability to sense it they describe the object as an illusion where as the person's senses may called as incapable but the time some call as fourth dimension may change objects structure therefore what persons felt becomes something else with the time. Although the object looks same after sometime it had changed

[@WillDanceAlone2U]

Simply. Beautiful. God distilled in a few minutes: "Wherever you look, right there is the face of god." And what is looking, too, is god. For there's no-thing looking. And no-thing being looked at.

[@Eliezer-ec1bx]

Emptiness is the reality, transient form the illusion. Maya, is a "constructive" illusion - a projection of Consciousness.

[@dayasilvia]

Thanks deeply for sharing this understanding in such a clear and refined way.

[@brynawaldman5790]

The vocabulary of Kabbala is more precise in this. The Hebrew root to the world (haolam) is the same as the root to the verb "to conceal" (hehalem) so it is not inaccurate to say the translation for the world & the universe is "the concealment," and then, the question for a seeker is, what does it conceal?

[@samraj5186]

The reason this doesn’t convey as Truth is because it comes across as a mental analysis rather than a Realization. If you listen to Realizers like Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Ramana Maharshi or Adi Da Samraj, the communication about this subject is crystal clear because they are Enlightened whereas it is totally obvious that Rupert is not. I guess it’s better than nothing though.

[@cctoutlemonde7816]

What about hallucinations?

[@ramananddixit2553]

This is this this this is Great Rupert I only listen to U and You are real in Me🌹🙏🌹

[@pardameanharahap3804]

Great 👍 MY Guru.. Rupert

[@carllake6557]

What is real is what does not change, therefore life is as illusion

[@veenkumarS-pq9on]

You guys are making me confuesd

[@Vandermin011]

I can see where the experiences that consciousness has can be considered illusions because they morph and change. Experience can also sink themselves deep into the heart. They allow for growth, depending on how the experience is perceived. In that, the experience is real.

[@Emily3383]

Can someone kindly explain this in simpler terms? I really want to understand

[@mikefoster5277]

Everything we see, sense and experience in life (both internally and externally) is ultimately nothing other than God's infinite and eternal being, shining _as_ reality.

[@filip5]

I think it is best that you try to formulate where you get stuck in understanding this. That way we can look at the unexamined assumptions that are implied in the attempt to understand. From this investigation real understanding can come ...

[@shaunhutchinson9770]

When you look into a mirror and see your reflection you know there is nothing actually there but you have "a real experience" of your self and other things being "over there" as you look from "here".

[@glenmartin9068]

As scientist have found that matter is made of energy mystics have found that energy and matter is made of consciousness. 🙏

[@-Boundless-]

The world is real / actual / present without being solid / physical / material. It is an appearance, but the appearance is not made of anything other than the appearance.

[@FisherKot]

I think he’s wrong, that he “distilled 20 years in a few minutes” I still think it will take me many years to understand what he’s saying. It’s not hitting me. It took him many years and will therefore also take me many years. This is not a concept you can get in “10 minutes” as he says

[@Interspirituality]

Hmm, I feel like the original Vedantic language, and the sophisticated Indic philosophy accompanying it, was more than sufficiently sensitive to the subtlety of the distinction he makes here - I haven’t come across any text which altogether denies that the phenomenal world exists in any sense, even in the relative point of view. Just this morning I came across this passage in the Yoga Vasistha which seems rather clear to me: “[The World] is both real and unreal: because it is perceived it appears to be real, but because of inherent contradiction it is unreal”. I feel like Spira ji is belabouring something of a purely semantic point; perhaps it would be best to study the original Sanskrit than hang on to the English words “real” and “unreal”

[@mikro171]

I needed to watch this video twice. I enjoyed every word you said 🙏

[@colin1235421]

Bashar says the only thing real about physical reality is our experience of it. And so you can say what is real is our experience. Quantum physics is also finding that physical reality is just data - that the universe is simply not what it seems - likely some form of simulation.

[@wattaura7621]

What is real? ....(a word) 😅

[@yeesirnwong3778]

🙏❤️. Thank you. Simply beautiful.

[@scotthuey1981]

Thank you! 😃✨🙏💚

[@alejandrosaez1772]

Real compared to what? Illusion compared to what? This is a dualistic question only relavent to thought

[@skoog5600]

This won't cost you a cent. The world is the world, it's what you make of it.

[@Meisha-san]

I feel Krishnamurti also belongs on that list of people that bridged the essence of these teachings into language and imagery that is more palatable for "the rest of us" 🙃

[@austin426512]

Krishnamurthi doesn’t believe in Advaitha

[@Meisha-san]

@@austin426512 Neither did Alan Watts, however they both managed to objectively analyse & simplify various ideas-without needing to believe-down to their bare essence, to be pondered by a larger audience.

[@austin426512]

@@Meisha-san Alan watts talked a lot about Hinduism and he understood Vedanta very well

[@Meisha-san]

@@austin426512 Alan Watts did not believe in Advaitha, & said so may times, but could speak at length about a lot of what he understood. Where's the confusion here? What am I missing that you're questioning?

[@austin426512]

@@Meisha-san Alan watts undressed Hinduism very well, where as krishnamurti was an atheist and has no connection to any concept of God

[@cg3ly]

The world isn't reality. It's an image. Is an image reality? No, it's just what it appears to be, it's an appearance. That you perceive it is an experience, and the coming and going of experience isn't reality, it's just the shifting visual representation, your description, of perception. Maybe it's enough to say it's happening, and then to look for what you're responsible for in regards to perception. What part do you play in the interpretation of the appearance of a world?

[@sandycarter5300]

There is just one indivisible universal consciousness, which is not the pure and perfect divine Awareness. This one false objective sense imagines a world of infinite fragmentation. The impersonal belief in subject/object instantly posits countless imaginary reference points, but these are not persons/entities. It is all impersonal data only.

[@cg3ly]

All views are shaped, a lens imposes certain boundaries, it focuses and limits attention, so seen through a particular lens, or context, the effect of looking through one, which while we do is imagined to be singular or private, and through which images of objects exist seemingly separate from the viewer, a condition imposed by the lens, we describe what appears as a world, “out there”. I'm concerned with my part in accepting the influence of a particular lens, or any influenced view. One universal consciousness? Maybe mind is simply a shared field, and not billions of discreet platforms. In mind, there is that which attempts to influence mind. I say that because I see its reflection in the action of all that has access to it. The attempt to influence “in the world” is constant. Everyone does it, as if it's familiar to everyone, but rather than do what's being done in mind by repeating the action of it in “the world”, an imaginary outward arc of perception that sees an “external world”, I'd rather take responsibility for the influence I accept in mind. I think there's an influence in mind that isn't kind, and one that is. I accept responsibility for learning which is shaping the lens through which I look.

[@levimark548]

Everything what is that is real. What isn't real isn't or is nothing. So something what isn't real cannot even experienced by anyone. There isn't something what isn't real. It's like to point out that something is nothing. Illusion is a real thing experienced by consciousness. A lie is real thing. It's about the relationship between different real things. Truth and lie are both real things. A lie cannot be not real because it is embedded into reality itself.

[@scorpionsting600]

Bravo! To achieve such simplicity is no small thing!

[@VaughnGeorge]

Love Rupert's insights !!

[@peacenlove6502]

whereever you look its consciousness shining forth in it all its multiplicity ...its real ! Once we remove our belief that it is unreal

[@beaconterraoneonline]

It may be real ... but real in what sense? If the world is simulated, with simulated objects that include human brains which are provided simulated imagery and simulated sound and more, then can "we" say the world is real if it's impossible to know anything outside the simulation?

[@johnburman966]

You are so right...how we got mislaid by all the decoration of eastern teachings. For those gurus who flaunted their inflated egos, treated us followers like sh..t.

[@deanmccrorie3461]

Why is Rupert saying the Ukraine war is real? That’s a strange a example

[@sandycarter5300]

It's an illogical position. Illusion is not real. That's why it's called illusion.

[@brianlittrell797]

@@sandycarter5300 illusion means that something is not what it APPEARS to be. But the illusion IS SOMETHING. It is made out of something. It just isn't what it SEEMS to be.

[@deanmccrorie3461]

@@pdigrazi yes but why did he bring up ukraine?

[@supernetsi1]

There is reality, but we can only interprete it thus making our own illusion and live it.. but never grasp real reality.

[@o.j5526]

Thank you sooooo much Rupert ❤

[@jamesking2172]

"وَلِلَّهِ الْمَشْرِقُ وَالْمَغْرِبُ ۚ فَأَيْنَمَا تُوَلُّوا فَثَمَّ وَجْهُ اللَّهِ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ وَاسِعٌ عَلِيمٌ" Quran 2/115

[@barcelona12ist]

I have the intention to experience this truth in my heart, not just conceptionally 🙏❤

[@niranniran8099]

Msr spira Every unknown person is missing, and whoever claims that he worships an unknown person is a liar because he worships what he does not know..and whoever is an atheist has been truthful because he denied what he does not know.

[@austin426512]

Our great rishis have experienced the form of the unknown that we worship in temple. We don’t have to realize that form before worshipping.

[@stephenkrus]

Wow! 😳 Rupert... that cleared a lot of things. Hmm... 🤔

[@summondadrummin2868]

An Essential Illusion is Money, how do numbers in computers or on pieces of paper act so forcefully on Societies as to be the very Rudder directing our course? I'd like Rupert to speak to that,

[@sonikwro]

Ok so what? This is God's dream that we all are in. Everything that is real because consioussness has tools to convince you that it is. Just like in a dream you don't know that you are in it when you in it. You can take psychedelic and melt reality away. You can manifest things just by your thoughts. You can breakethrought the dream state.

[@johnbowen4442]

In the book Getting The Life. Experience You Want Reality Simulator Manual . Earth is just like a Holodeck on Star Trek because we were born in the Holodeck we dont know it's just a simulator . Earth is a teaching device to grow in consciousness where people can out play their dramas and learn from their experiences ?

[@GooglePlusPages]

Why bother? If we are part of the grand Godhead, then why not be born intact and in possession of all knowledge of reality? Thence we could merely play amongst the stars without need of learning and suffering.

[@RamSamudrala]

Ramana Maharshi did simplify but yet he was very grounded in Shaivism. Two people the people who removed these trappings of religion would be the two Krishnamurtis (Jiddu and UG). JK's experiences seemed very similar to Iyer's.

[@Mark_72]

The reality, the dream state, and self hypnosis, they're all feel the same to me. Although, reality have consequences, for a lifetime.

[@pilargarcia6724]

Muchísimas gracias!!!❤🙏🤗

[@sridharshrinivasan4572]

The word Maya (= illusion) is defined differently by Advaitis and Vishista Adavitis. Maya is the prakriti - an amazing root matter and is real as per Vishista advaitis. There are detailed explanations for verse 7-14 of Srimad Bhagavad Gita.

[@mistysmith5392]

Consciousness is responsible for thoughts. Rupert even states we are not in control of our thoughts, so I conclude that consciousness is playing the world of duality and the war in Ukraine consciousness is responsible for. We are just the observer from what I understand and that is a concept too.😊

[@dennycote6339]

This simply makes sense to me...

[@RohitGupta01]

What 20 years?

[@wattaura7621]

Now × 20 = real Now 😮

[@texasiguana]

I have heard that the solid things we call "real" are not really what we believe we see and touch! Due to the fact that everything solid is really made up of Atoms moving rapidly - and Atoms are mainly made up of empty space! So, now what?

[@ВалентинКушнир-ю2я]

Спасибо огромное!

[@kirkguerrero7469]

🧠 The imagination is a playground to life. But don’t ever let your imagination get the best of you. Life is what you make of it. By the way you think is the way you feel. Whatever you create in your mind you create in your life. But the reality is when you put it into action, so others know what you’re capable of doing by action. We are like the battery 🔋 🪫. We can think positive or we can think negative. The choice is ours through our free will. So believe what you want it’s your choice. In life and how we choose.

[@MassiveLib]

Illusion is as real as North and south, it depends entirely on the apoearences of objects.

[@ArunPaul-Malaysia]

MY MEDITATION CORNER( printed and pasted on my bedroom wall) -------‐--------------------‐' The Knowing 'Being': Look in all experience for that which does not appear, move, change, evolve or disappear. And know yourself as that. The Nature of 'EXPERIENCE': Experience experiences itself as one seamless, indivisible, unnamable, ever-present whole. It is only thought, which is itself made only of experience, which imagines that experience is fragmented into objects and selves. What is GOD: The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is LOVE: To feel that presence of that one life deep within yourself and within all creatures. The separate self is not an entity; it is an activity: the activity of resisting what is present and seeking what is not present. Provisional definition of CONSCIOUSNESS: Consciousness is that in which all experience APPEARS It is that with which all experience is KNOWN It is that out of which all experience is MADE ['Experience' is anything with objective qualities, which has attributes.] There are three(3) essential steps in the spiritual path: The FIRST is to notice that one is not a body or a mind but rather the AWARENESS in which these appear, and with which they are known. The SECOND is to explore the nature of Awareness and discover that it doesn't share the destiny or the limits of the body and mind - that is, to discover its eternal, infinite nature. and The THIRD is to live a life that is consistent with this understanding.

[@fabianandresdemurogarcia8725]

Thanks Rupert.

[@Arvy111]

Great explanation. Another alternative to help.understand is the opposite of this. If the so called material world was outside of consciousness it would be solid and permanent. Quantum mechanics (double slit experiment) proves that nothing in matter is solid or permanent. Nothing material actually exists until it is Interacted with the 5 senses (us). Without sensual interaction all matter (the entire universe) exists only as Information without any specific location. A bit like the data that makes up a movie but only exists as the movie while we are watching it on a screen. So, rhe only permanent reality is us / God/ spirit/ consciousness/ soul/life.

[@laineymckenzie660]

The experience of it is real .But in relative terms it's not

[@vacaloca5575]

If the whole thing was an illusion, then the illusion would be real. End of story.

[@julianklerkx4666]

Thankyou🙏🏻❤️

[@chuck9112]

Life is empty and meaningless and it's empty and meaningless that it's empty and meaningless. Not to say it's not real but people give meaning to experience not the other way around.

[@Silentselflove]

Feel this from my heart ❤

[@iMilhouse]

Does anyone else miss the flower?!

[@derekterrell3465]

If God is everything is that not everything meaning good and evil me you up down black white everything is everything .nothing is separate all is one

[@hgracern]

Aren’t we funny. We surely learned about rods n cones at school. So if colour is created by cortex then all there is is whatever is, coloured by the cortex. I love you, Rupee. ❤

[@Zelda2950-k7y]

First in 2nd AD buddhist monk Nagarguna gave the theory of nothingness called Shunyawad... You should read abt that too.

[@austin426512]

No need to read that once we understand Advaitha

[@amourverite6554]

"Man needs God. He needs to get out of himself. He dreams of heaven, of salvation, of the beyond. This is what the princes of materialism have failed to understand. The society without God in Christ that is being prepared for us is a society of ghosts."

[@ItApproaches]

Sorry Rupert, you got this one wrong. Nothingness can try to convince itself that stuff is real. Nothingness is nothingness. Sure there's experiences going on, but they aren't real. The Ukraine war is just a story playing out, it's not real. There's a story playing out to give ego strength. That's the point of these experiences. To give ego strength and make the illusion that much more believability. Yet if you're playing in the world of belief, you're never going to realize the truth that it's all bs lol. We can enjoy the experience or dislike it but it's not real. It's all we got though lol. The point is to realize it's not real, just observe it with neutrality and indifference.

[@pheonix3302]

Disregard everything you’ve been told- a good starting point. It’s all bs.

[@chalinoberm7034]

An illusion is real when it isn't an illusion.

[@gireeshneroth7127]

Illusion vs illusion.

[@carlavela7106]

Consciousness is an illusion. But it is all there is, then this is our reality.

[@chalinobermudez3430]

@@carlavela7106 consciousness is a biological process. It’s like photosynthesis in plants.

[@carlavela7106]

@@chalinobermudez3430 Tom Campbell kzbin.info/www/bejne/laishKauepJ4kLc

[@austin426512]

@@chalinobermudez3430 That is what is wrong, consciousness is subjective and is never an object

[@pardeepsharma2164]

Thank you Sir