Is Their Music Bad or Do You Just Hate Women?

[@zionreid2537]

So when Sexxy Red gets an 8, he doesn't know music but when Tate gets a negative review he's a misogynistic? It's like he can't win

[@ossiejon-nwakalo8644]

I bet he’s tired of being called a racist simply because he’s doesn’t like an album

[@ryleighrage]

Came here to say exactly this.

[@SamanthaLove-p6z]

I think Fantano is an idiot but everyone calls him out for the wrong things

[@jefferyjones8399]

@@SamanthaLove-p6z Why is he an idiot? Because he has different opinions than you?

[@dylansearcy3966]

​@@SamanthaLove-p6zfantano isn't an idiot

[@thatonekidinschoolwhoeatsglue]

Sad that fantano is seen as sexist cuz his negative reviews are recommended more than his positive ones so less people have seen his two 10s given to women who are better artists than tate will ever be

[@user-fs1lc2cj5s]

not to mention Sexy Redd getting an 8

[@Littlestraincloud]

Fantano's bigger sin was the embarrassing score he gave Carly Rae Jepsen's E-Mo-Tion which he later rescinded

[@sonickhable]

​@@user-fs1lc2cj5si was about to say. Anytime fantno bad take comes out, this is the new review that people bring up

[@cyb0nics]

Two of his most recent reviews, Brittany Howard and Chelsea Wolfe, are an 8 and a 9. 😭

[@emie1170]

he is a misogynist people 😆

[@MrWillcapone]

Here's the truth: Some good musicians put out bad works sometimes Some mediocre musicians put out stellar work at times And even worse than all that, there are great music from a technical standpoint that just don't connect with you in particular. And all of those are okay. Just vibe and move on. This whole ESPNisation of music is good for no one.

[@skjbhdjh]

ctrl by sza

[@jefferyjones8399]

I honestly don't care if a musician is "technically good." If I connect with their music, that's all I need.

[@alyssapreza]

@@jefferyjones8399 EXACTLYY

[@math001]

People are probably gonna come after me but I haven't connected with anything Jacob Collier has put out yet. He's a good musician but it sounds so saturated man. It's always harmony here, harmony there. I like his collab with Lizzy McAlpine and John Mayer though

[@ThisUselessHeart2]

As a woman, you got my like on this vid the moment you said “we don’t need to prop up mediocre artists just bc they’re women” (rough paraphrase bc I can’t remember things I watched minutes ago alas) because YES THANK YOU. Women don’t deserve accolades just for being women doing things! Especially when there are so many women deserving of accolades that get no attention. Anyway, I may not *always* agree with your musical takes, but I always appreciate your perspective, and especially so in this video.

[@tss3393]

Never mind that Fantano assisted in further exposing Alexis Marshall's abusive behavior by giving Kristin Hayter a chance to speak about it in one of his interviews with her, dude's a chauvinist pig for not liking an album.

[@evanwright9016]

Apparently, you're only misogynistic when lightly critiquing the stan armies of borderline industry plants. As much as I love Kristin's output thus far. The greater public only come for Anthony's algorithm-friendly stuff. They're gonna be the same group of people who'll call Hayter "virgin core", but claim they're arbiters of justice for women.

[@soyunaardilla]

This.

[@CoolScratcher]

@@evanwright9016 I agree with you but Tate McRae is absolutely not an industry plant - she got her start here on youtube and has been grinding since she's 13 to get to where she is

[@4danzy]

The Taylor and Drake comparison is spot on

[@buttermoth5861]

I’ve been saying this for YEARS and been getting called insane for it. Hearing it in this video was so validating lmao

[@4danzy]

@@buttermoth5861 Both talented artists for sure, but given their influence and presence in the industry you feel like they could be doing a bit more with their music these days.

[@buttermoth5861]

@@4danzy this was exactly my point Like when you have effectively infinite resources to do whatever you want with your art and have a guaranteed listener base and you DON’T do anything interesting or try to push your artistry to new heights it’s more upsetting than if someone with no talent was trying to push the envelope Drake and Taylor are both guilty of this with the house experimentation on honestly nevermind and the folk songs on evermore/folklore both being underwhelming and bland for the genres. As a musician especially it just upsets me to witness (Sorry for the rant I have very strong feelings on these 2 artists specifically)

[@4danzy]

@@buttermoth5861 nah don’t apologise bro you have a really valid argument on these two fr

[@niyaakbar1098]

It’s so fucking accurate. They both have extremely large fan bases that excuse any of their behavior and will stream the fuck outta their music regardless of what it sounds like

[@brielle0808]

Calling out mediocre songs/albums doesn’t make you sexist. Fantano has came hard for other male artists for mediocre albums. I don’t agree with Fantano sometimes. It’s his opinion. People online act like you can’t call out songs by female artists that were made for TikTok, Spotify playlist, and the radio without being sexist. They’re blind to the albums by women Fantano liked/scored high.

[@andyblanton6570]

To be fair, the list of "Fantano Approved Women" currently working consists solely of Kristen Hayter.

[@Wizeahhwizardfr]

Yknow dude I actually appreciate this format and insight, I’ve been a channel follower for a few years for your documentary style videos but this was just as entertaining

[@tovpp7]

Fantano is called a simp and a libtard for his good reviews on a group of artists and then he’s called a misogynist and racist for bad reviews on those same artists. It’s genuinely so funny and bizarre to see happen.

[@SamanthaLove-p6z]

I also feel like Ariana Grande is worth including in this conversation because the two main things people know her for is the drama of her personal life and her big hits you hear at Target or the mall (and now "yes, and?" which has stirred up controversy and is now a TikTok meme). I'd argue she only has two albums that are phenomenal from front to back but I feel like her deep cuts often go unnoticed by the general public because they hear her hits like Into You and Problem and thank u, next and think that's all she has to offer. It's actually insane how good some of her deep cuts are. Highly recommend "Break Your Heart Right Back," "Step On Up," "better off," "Only 1," "Safety Net," "Quit" with Cashmere Cat and also "Cadillac Song" which isn't on streaming.

[@thisiskitta]

Quit with Cashmere Cat is a pure mystery to me on how it went completely under the radar but still has so many views on KZbin. It’s my favourite of hers. POV and Breathin’ after that. I enjoy her biggest hits but it’s the other tracks on her albums that are just amazing. I wish she didn’t do all this relationship bullshit, she was my favourite girly pop 🥲

[@SamanthaLove-p6z]

@@thisiskitta the stuff she engages in is unfortunate, but personally it doesn't stop me from enjoying her music. Maybe its just because I'm a recovering Kanye fan but her antics just don't phase me. Pov is amazing and so is breathin.

[@thisiskitta]

@@SamanthaLove-p6z yeah to be fair it’s not on Kanye’s level so I can still enjoy her music but this new release had me rolling my eyes, you know

[@niyaakbar1098]

I’ve only listened to Yours Truly and Positions fully but those are great albums imo, YT is a memorable and strong debut album and Positions is just great front to back with maybe one or two songs I occasionally skip. Ariana has really good deep cuts that are slept on and her main fanbase isn’t a fan of her rnb but she’s heavily influenced by rnb and has the voice for it

[@SamanthaLove-p6z]

@@niyaakbar1098 Yeah its funny to me that any time she goes in an R&B direction her fans think it sucks which is beyond me cause those are some of her best tracks. Highly recommend listening to Sweetener and Thank, U Next if that's your thing, they're not full on R&B but it's mixed in pretty nicely

[@duane_313]

I enjoyed Tate McCray's 'Greedy' track, but let's be real, no one will ever master the sexy bubblegum dance pop quite like Britney Spears did. Her greatest albums are practically pop bibles. It's wonderful to see critics recognizing her more in retrospect

[@ronin2841]

Fully agree but I do see critics doing the same they did to Britney to current artists in the future. Right now they say their music is mediocre and that they can't sing or perform but later they'll say that their music was revolutionary and that they wish music at that time was more like theirs.

[@johansjournal]

she didnt wrote her music. and her voice was fake, all auto tune

[@christiansoto1367]

@@johansjournalnot everything was full auto tune by Britney, and it was never her fault bc her record label would never let her take full control of her work. If she did, her music would of been a lot different in a different universe

[@johansjournal]

@@christiansoto1367 she wrote her music on her chaotic ep, it's awuful. not even her fans like it

[@christiansoto1367]

@@johansjournal you don’t know how to spell awful?

[@Save0urSisters]

Idk if anyone will care but i have my recommendations: Björk, caroline polachek, fka twigs, arca, sophie, eartheater, rina sawayama, newjeans (yes i will be including kpop groups), poppy, marina, slayyyter, azealia banks, loona, charli xcx, pinkpantheress, shygirl, kate bush, hikaru utada They are all icons

[@elioy3387]

how does it feel to be 100% right? that's the cuntiest set of words you could've placed next to each other

[@elioy3387]

no way my comment about this list being "cunty" was deleted. LMAO i swear i meant it as a compliment, i just talk gay 😭😭

[@Save0urSisters]

@ch3rrybmbb sneaks?

[@Save0urSisters]

@ch3rrybmbb oh I get it thank you ❤❤

[@purple1441]

Rina Sawayama and Poppy 💖💖💖

[@lovelyy6491]

i honestly agree with everything you said. i'll just add that even when some female artists don't make the greatest music they still put on a show a thousand times better than most male artists out there. i actually can't name a lot of great current male performers besides Bruno Mars, BTS, Tyler the Creator, and.... yeah, that's it. Brockhampton used to be awesome too

[@piku6427]

Just look outside your pop sphere, both binary genders and LGBTQ community do put amazing shows. Example turnstile, 100 gecs and St Vincent.

[@niyaakbar1098]

I’d also add Usher but he comes from an era where male performers still had to put on a good show, he’s insanely talented on stage/live

[@ThisNameIsVeryClever]

Unless the opinion being examined is "I don't like this music because a woman made it," no opinion in a vacuum is enough to decide someone's prejudices.

[@healxo]

People aren't usually that upfront about their biases. But often people hating on, say, beyonce very aggressively can never offer up a justification besides sputtering up an "i don't know, i just don't like it."..... which would be valid if they didn't so strongly oppose everything she did. That screams bias to me. And your comment is useless out of context

[@pink-flower.]

​@@healxo exactly i hate when people just hate on artists for no reason women or not i just don't particularly like Beyonce's songs she's a great singer but it's just not my style but some people just hate her for breathing the wrong way

[@K.Angelina]

I’m a huge Taylor swift fan but I kinda agree with you. When she released folklore and evermore my entire taste in music shifted. I was always someone who was more into lyrics (that’s why I love Taylor in the first place) but with those albums it became amplified. To me midnights was a setback lyrically, though it does have its moments. you’re on your own kid and midnight rain are stand outs to me personally. I think when her focus veers into having a pop hit or a #1 that’s when it gets bad. In the fandom it’s a known thing that Taylor picks the worst singles. She goes for catchy instead of lyrical to get that radio hit. So the general public that doesn’t go out of their way to listen to anything other than her singles don’t think her lyrics are anything special. And maybe that’s her fault to some extent. But I hope her new album goes back to focusing on lyrics and she leaves the pop star thing behind for a while and just focuses on being an artist.

[@nupurmishra346]

Well she is hinting that her next album is very focused on songwriting and I hope that it's true. I do like midnights a lot but I was expecting more. Also the 3 am version of midnights is far superior than the standard one

[@K.Angelina]

@@nupurmishra346 yea I feel like with the whole poetry thing it should be more lyric driven than sound driven. But you never know with her. I liked the 3am tracks way more than the standard edition tracks on first listen.

[@thema1998]

​@@K.Angelina What did you think about The Tortured Poets Department? 🤔

[@K.Angelina]

@@thema1998 I personally really liked it. I think it sits on a very interesting line between having slight pop moments and then having the more lyric focused moments. She put a lot of her humor into that record that I don’t think someone that’s just a casual Taylor swift enjoyer would understand and brush it off as simple or cringe writing. Although there are two songs I think were just plain unnecessary on the record and the lyrics give me second hand embarrassment. But overall I think it shows an interesting side of her lyric and storytelling ability. The production of the album is a completely different thing though because although we get some unique moments I definitely think she needs to change it up more when it comes to production. I really don’t think she was chasing a pop hit or moment on this record though. There’s no overly repetitive pop choruses to be sung over a tik tok dance challenge. Which is why I think her younger audience isn’t vibing with this record as much because I think lyrically and production wise it’s her most scathingly grown up record.

[@BurningRubber454]

All her songs are the same Insert 100th ex boyfriends to writ about

[@KylieWilson]

People don’t talk enough about how wilfully ignorant a lot of pop stans can be just because a song is “catchy”, yeah but so is chlamydia I appreciate Fantano for speaking his mind and not being afraid to give something a negative review, I feel like a lot of mainstream outlets are afraid to say anything negative for fear of exactly this bs

[@BeBoMaMu]

“yeah, but so is Chlamydia” what a bar

[@maryannappiagyei4277]

homerable mentions female artists good music 1. Florence Welch 2. Sampa the great 3. joni mitchell 4. Brandi Carlile 5. Fiona Apple 6. Julien Baker 7. Lucy Dacus

[@sparrow_posts_stuff]

don't forget phoebe bridgers, ethel cain, and caroline polachek!! :))

[@andyblanton6570]

Putting Joni Mitchell, Fiona Apple, and Brandi Carlisle on this list is like claiming you aren't racist or homophobic because you like Hendrix and Queen.

[@brandonhamaguchi]

That green light is driving me crazy 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@nbeutler1134]

Not liking mid Old Navy pop music = misogyny

[@thelittlepeople5500]

🤣🎯

[@imawakemymindisalive13]

lmao i’m a woman who doesn’t like tate mcrae music… and loves better than revenge by taylor swift…

[@thelittlepeople5500]

Tate McRae is unlistenable IMO. I'd somehow missed Better Than Revenge but on a quick listen, I actually think it's a pretty good song. TBH I don't know why I'm even here, I tend to think this guy has terrible taste in music. I should prolly unsubscribe 😅. @@imawakemymindisalive13

[@mafiagirl.elizzq]

@@imawakemymindisalive13 THE STORY STARTS WHEN IT WAS HOT AND IT WAS SUMMER AND

[@brandonhamaguchi]

More ears to Indigo de Souza, Clairo, Marika Hackman, Tinashe, Caroline polacheck, Weyes Blood, japanese breakfast, snail mail, jorja smith, Kehlani , jessie Ware, Margo price, Laura Marling, angel Olsen, fka twigs, Frankie cosmos, Julia Holter ❤❤❤

[@maryannappiagyei4277]

Good music female and more ear 1. Rapsody 2. The Last Dinner Party 3. Phoebe Bridgers 4. Sa-roc 5. Haim 6. Sampa the great 7. joni mitchell 8. Fiona Apple 9. Charlotte Day Wilson 10. Little Simz 11. The Beaches 12. Tegan And Sara

[@JORE4203]

It’s funny because this guy is saying I’m misogynist and racist for not liking Beyoncé, but I love so many of the artists that you 2 listed. Because they’re actually quality artists

[@nickjohnson398]

This is the crux of my issue… there are way more talented women out there that I choose champion instead of the slop that’s in vogue

[@dunnowy123]

Happy you made this video, a couple points: 1) I don't think it's unfair to say Taylor Swift is like Drake. She's better and more consistent than Drake, can make some genuinely great music, and produces hits just by putting her name on it. And they appeared in an Apple commercial together so for me, that seals it. 2) Does no one else find it EXTREMELY SUS that Tate McCrae went from sad girl Gen Zer to hyper sexual pop star in like...a minute? She's a legitimate example of an industry plant and everything with her feels so calculated. That being said, sure, I like a song here and there, but man...to defend her to the death is an indicator you're NPC, I'm sorry.

[@pointlessfeature]

please do elaborate on what "industry plant" means to you

[@MusicOrLoseItTV]

I dunno about industry plant yet it seems you gotta be a dreary monotone Monica contributing to teen girl depression or a stone cold hoochie to be a female music entertainer on KZbin trending.

[@resbun15]

No but Tate McRae is good I promise :(

[@thisiskitta]

He hit it out of the park with his comparison to Drake. She absolutely is overrated and her zealous base pushes her far more than deserved (which doesn’t mean she is bad either!)

[@SGTemerario]

well drake makes absolute hits by putting his name on it as well so not a completely correct comparison, for a rapper drake is HUGE. Tate Mcrae is definitely not an industry plant she has been making music for years and has been an influencer for even longer. If anything she’s even less of an influencer than someone like taylor who had rich parents buy a label

[@dreamcity7514]

I just don't liek beyonce's style from a taste side of things. I recognize that she is talented and deserves her recognition. Is that an opinion I am allowed to have!?

[@RyanTheSharkie69]

Of course! No one should be judged by their opinions!

[@Antwannnn]

she has multiple styles tho so I question what style do you dislike? Bc someone can say they hate Kanyes style but have only listened to Yeezus and Jesus Is King. And any Ye fan can tell you College Dropout is nothing like Yeezus, same as Renaissance is nothing like 4. maybe it takes an avid listener to hear the nuance?

[@krehnah7541]

why wouldnt you be "allowed" to have that opinion?

[@malcolmhodnett8874]

No because according to this you probably hate women AND black people. Wtf

[@pillbugm8914]

You know you are

[@PeterGriffin11]

Misgony is a hatred of women or a belief that women aren't equal and should not have the same rights as men. Disliking a female artist or a song that happens to be made by a woman doesn't make someone a misoganist. A similar thing has been happening with movies as well. 1:51 As someone who does like Beyonce not liking her music or thinking she's overrated doesn't mean someone is racist or sexist.

[@milk_bath]

Yeah, I ain’t here to support a billionaire no matter how good the music is.

[@Antwannnn]

@@milk_bath you being on KZbin is supporting a few billionaires. people like you are so annoying bc its all just talk

[@tylerharaf5901]

I think it all depends on the context of why they don’t like her or said female artist if that makes sense

[@adoptic6342]

While you are correct, there are a lot of men that discredit all music made by women just for being a woman making music

[@PeterGriffin11]

@@tylerharaf5901 Indeed. If someone dislikes an artist because their a woman that would be sexist but merely disliking an artist whose female or a song that happens to be made by one is not sexist.

[@diesehnswurdigkeit9019]

He had albums from women like Lingua Ignota, Little Simz, Spellling, Lana Del Rey, St Vincent, Arca, etc in his top tens albums of the year lists so he gives a lot of praise to women when it is due...

[@michaelauberry1564]

If you think Fantano is misogynistic then you are telling on yourself that you know nothing about him

[@milesleblanc5416]

I loved Midnights personally. I dont think they're generic pop songs, I think they're great tunes. I love Mastermind, and Karma and a bunch of other songs on that album. I love that record, and I take no offense to your take on Midnights.

[@PetahSonic]

Its so funny to see that people taking the "if you dont like Beyonce you're racist" joke too seriously lmao Btw you made some really great points

[@themaybeso6117]

I think being known by other younger people in the dance social media world helped Tate McRae a lot in her singer-songwriter phase. She’s solid, I think this commercial style is flattering for her. She did notable competitions and TV gigs and presumably let go a Bayeriches Staatsballet scholarship around the time she was doing KZbin.

[@orbinsolem]

Beyonce is great and so is renaissance but I hate that people think that its that revolutionary. artists in the alternative dance/electronic pop sphere have been doing this shit for years but bc shes filthy rich and mega famous she gets all the accolades for inventing music

[@jameslight4391]

I don't think her being rich has anything to do with it but her fame yes

[@AugustRx]

That's.. the whole reason people are impressed. Taking a risk, genrebending when she has everything to lose and delivering hard.

[@orbinsolem]

@@jameslight4391 Well she can afford to spend ages with the best producers and musicians of any genre to make an album. True its not directly linked but 100% relevant

[@orbinsolem]

@@AugustRx Safe opinion, my view is that shes gentrifying to a slight degree

[@pointlessfeature]

@@AugustRx genrebending by doing what exactly?

[@hanger9461]

Fantano has been against sexism, homophobia and racism his entire career, and this is how they pay him back. Embarrassing

[@SuperRat420]

I think it's hilarious you think people need to be paid back for basic human decency. You don't deserve a medal for not being sexist, that's standard

[@Xanaduum]

​These days you're lucky as a guy that people don't claim you're sexist, even if in reality you believe in equality. I'll just take being left alone. ​@@SuperRat420

[@SuperRat420]

@@Xanaduum I doubt you're sincere in your so called equal beliefs bud.

[@Xanaduum]

@@SuperRat420 proves my point. I'm a man, so you can just say that, and you did. Regardless of what I personally believe or what I do in my day-to-day life. Everyone wants to score quick culture points with cheap shots. 🤷

[@SuperRat420]

@@Xanaduum no I'm saying because of your attitude, not your sex. Live in reality please

[@trentterryfriends3934]

How does not being a fan of a certain album make Fantano a sexist?? He's given positive reviews to heaps of female artist, he gave Olivia Rodrigo a positive review, he gave PinkPantheress a positive review..

[@lucymorrison]

almost every bad review of a Tegan and Sara album reads like an “I don’t hate women in music, but” comment

[@owenfitzgerald5928]

All big female artists get alot of misogynistic hate but not liking one of them doesnt make you misogynistic as long as it is for valid reasons beyond their gender. They are all popular and talented but you dont have to like them to notice they are talented (I am not sure if talented is the right word because its little strange and contradictory to say I dont like someones music while also saying they are talented but by talented I just meant they clearly have an ability to connect with people through music that makes people feel good hence why they are popular.)

[@DallasChick79]

That doesn't make any sense. Like, why don't you like them... because they're popular, because they're women or both? And, if it doesn't make you misogynistic, then what are you? Sheesh.

[@owenfitzgerald5928]

@@DallasChick79 I have just re read my comment its very badly worded will edit after this. I like many female artists. If you dont like all female music artists then yeah you are misogynistic but I just meant if someone says they dont like Taylor Swift or 1 female music artist it doesnt mean they are misogynistic there are plenty of valid reasons not to like individual artists for example Taylor Swift is very popular and clearly talented but all that I have heard from her apart from one or 2 songs I really just dont like they are often too repetitive over the top cringe for me although tbf I believe those are more her older big hit stuff and not all of her discography is like that I also dont like her carbon footprint and how she seems to be about her pj flights but I do like her lgbt+ open allyship and she also seems good on other progessive topics a good example of all of this is her song we need to calm down. Its not my type of music at all the video is over the top camp and cringy for me which i am not a fan of but the video and song also has progressive messaging I like and agree with it including advocating for fans to sign a petition for equality in American laws. Then I do like some Olivia Rodrigo, Billie Eillish, Dua Lipa, Lana Del Rey, Maddison Beer, Victoria

[@elijahkimball4734]

I'm not a sexist! I just think every female fronted band reminds me of Paramore!

[@fidlar777]

PLEASE could you tell me where did you get that beanie? Or what brand is it? I've been looking for that red smiley logo for SO LONG

[@Keep_It_G]

Clout Collection Smiley Face Embroidered Beanie

[@nicko7939]

Personally both

[@adoptic6342]

Respect the honesty

[@thelittlepeople5500]

My favorite band of all time is Purity Ring, and Chvrches is a guilty pleasure. It's not that I'm a misogynist because I don't like the bands featured in this video. It's that radio pop is just not good, for the most part, musically, lyrically, production wise, or in any other way.

[@Xanaduum]

It's a thing in all areas of the media at the moment, get media attention by claiming racism or sexism if you don't get an award, or if some says they don't like your music/film/art/product. I mean, fair enough when those things are the definitive main reason but many time it just really isn't. Purity Ring are pretty cool BTW.

[@mustafamehdi1663]

I think midnights was a setback for Taylor artistically but tbh one mid albulm doesn’t take away her talent or her discography folklore evermore and 1989 are those legendary album im sure like drake taylor can make her next albulms boring and would still be the biggest thing but drake is soo inconsistent so to compare him with Taylor seems unfair and shes a great songwriter is not a limiting experience its her songwriting that sets her apart

[@dyll_pyckle]

This vid was super cool!! Loved the format

[@projectz975]

i feel like Swifties would have their entire lives changed if they just listened to any other artist ever. we could have a whole cultural revolution if we could make that happen

[@imawakemymindisalive13]

as a swiftie i can confirm. my life changed when i expanded my listening library

[@lucymorrison]

real

[@PotatoWaffle-sl4xf]

I listen to death metal and Taylor swift it’s great

[@atunnelunderswiftblvd]

thinking we only listen to t.s is wild

[@BFreeGodzilla]

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I've never understood the Beyonce hype. She's fine, but I don't get why people put her in the GOAT debates. Maybe its a generational thing, shes literally older than my parents

[@PastelDeChocloReign]

She has one of the strongest pipes in the game, great dancer and produces amazing shows. The goat title enters when comparing her quality (and even longevity) to modern artists

[@Whatever777-t7c]

Go listen to Lemonade

[@killingthemood2000]

I love the Flo Milli shoutout! Also suggesting Doechii as the rap IT-girl, she's super charismatic, energetic, witty, and even has a good voice for pop cuts. Reminds me of early Azealia without the controversy

[@sonicgoo1121]

Amazing how many people comment on the thumbnail and miss what's said in the first 10 seconds of the video...

[@Littlestraincloud]

Great video, man. Agree with a lot of your breakdowns here. Gonna check out some of these artists.

[@FalloftheHouseofUsher]

So with Beyoncé, I never really got the hype. I’ve listened to some of her most critically acclaimed stuff and it all has an aura of sameness. I’ll say she’s a crazy inventive performer but I just have never really felt her music, and she started a lot of musical trends that I’m not a fan of, she’s just not my cup of tea.

[@bazookaman1353]

"She's one of the best in the genre, so if you hate her you're [buzzword]" What if I just don't like the genre?

[@sawderf741]

Growing up I rarely liked any female vocalists. At some point I decided to go out of my way to find some female vocalist songs and albums. Here are two I found that I liked; War Garden by Cold Beat. Tiny Star by Tiny Star and The Blasting company.

[@daaimdaanish7016]

I largely agree; however, I think Invasion of Privacy is a pretty good album... not comparable to Illmatic, Miseducation, and so on... but definitely comparable to Astro World... an album I hella love and still play to this day... I still play tracks from both albums. All said, I still mostly agree with your assessment and fully appreciate your opinion.

[@thebigdawgj]

Two labels people use for others they don't like that have never made sense to me as negatives are "transphobe" and "misogynist" like being those things are supposed to be bad things.

[@bazookaman1353]

I'm not a misogynist, I'm a gender differentiated misanthrope.

[@winter_3407]

hating women for being women (misogyny) is a bad thing… do you genuinely not believe that’s bad?

[@thebigdawgj]

@@winter_3407 I *know* it isn't.

[@TeeteringTod]

I love sia, Enya, the cranberries, miley Cyrus, etc. but most pop and female rap honestly tends to be 1 dimensional songs that are about how the "singer" has all the guys chasing them. Then there are talented people I don't care for like Beyoncé because it's not my cup of tea. I don't like men that make soulless music either and tbh there's more men in music that I don't like than women. Take rap for example. Since the 90s rap songs that aren't about gangbanging, partying, dr*gs, or s*x are rarer than diamonds so I don't like 99% of new hip-hop. In summation, mediocrity+empty lyrics= me not liking you.

[@SP-mf9sh]

I'm called a pick me because I think a lot of sad girl lesbian indie sucks. I'm a gay girl lol I can't win.

[@tylerhackner9731]

Why not both? Tho tbf if I think somethings bad I’ll criticize it no matter who made it male or female

[@tommystrickland6268]

The taylor swift , drake comparison was perfect

[@arkhamwayne4566]

Blanketing every man who dislikes Beyoncé as racist and sexist is ridiculous.

[@kahindo.]

he didn't say dislike tho...he said someone who can't acknowledge that beyonce is the best performer of our time has to have some racist and/or sexist undertones...not liking someone is different from not acknowledging fact

[@andyz6306]

@@kahindo. Why does anyone have to acknowledge something that's an opinion that gets treated as fact? It's not too crazy to think that someone would be turned off of an artist because everyone around them is acting like they NEED to have an opinion on them, and said opinion NEEDS to be positive. It's just making more issues. I don't care about Beyonce. it's not that deep. I don't need to spend my time praising people I don't have any interest in to avoid being called a bigot. I'd rather just enjoy what I enjoy. That's the kind of nonsense that pulls the fun out of everything.

[@PeterGriffin11]

@@kahindo. That's an opinion not a fact.

[@kahindo.]

@@andyz6306opinion would be me saying she's the best singer ever...but fact is...no one in this current day....is putting on a show better than Beyonce...whether she makes good music to you or not...no one puts more effort into performances like she does...case in point...coachella.

[@andyz6306]

@@kahindo. There's no such things as 'facts' in entertainment like that.

[@MusicOrLoseItTV]

07:25 I’m very sexually libertarian yet hip hop hoochification is played out. No other genre of music has 99% of the women hyper sexualized.

[@Datv24]

Got called sexist because I don’t like Taylor Swift but I rather Listen to Debbie Harry or Joan Jett her fan base doesn’t help this case

[@TPJN777]

Spellling and Eartheater should have been mentioned here 🤷‍♀️

[@justindittburner216]

Not a fan of Cardi or Megan tbh, actually I'd go as far as saying I can't stand them. Little Simz on the other hand; absolutely phenomenal

[@krehnah7541]

YESS! her I Might Be An Introvert album is soo good

[@DallasChick79]

You "can't stand them"? You're obviously the weirdo this video was made for.🙄

[@DallasChick79]

You "can't stand them"? 🙄You're definitely who this video was intended for.

[@justindittburner216]

@@DallasChick79 Nah

[@Dualis58]

he gave two albums made by women, one of which is literally a top-tier female rage album, 10s and they think he hates women

[@lisabarnes4381]

Fantano said Kanye’s album was unreviewable. Kanye’s album is number one. They always give good albums bad reviews.

[@northyanktonmemories]

you're my favorite white guy music youtuber

[@DangerousKaos]

Agreed. Like people are so damn misogynistic. This was a great video

[@Cargo_Bay]

He’s not mysogonistic. People are dumb and get in their feelings over their Standom.

[@ViktorMiranda1]

Jensen McRae is amazing! I love the performance of “Adams” Rib you mentioned! 🔥

[@thiagodounis6737]

I thought that you would venture in some more indie music, you just talked about extremely pop artists and rap artists. There are so many interesting that are not that unknown but are not extremely popular female artists like Florence Welsh, Carly Rae Jepsen, Haim and others that fly a little bit under the radar like The Staves, Alice Merton and Amy Macdonald

[@anabltc]

this sounds incomplete, I was expecting some more names included, like billie eilish, olivia rodrigo, lorde, adele... I agree that "affirmative action" on that level doesn't really help women. If any girl got that far, 1. fantastic, and 2. she's playing in the big league already and it's ok to say if an album/a song is underwhelming

[@SeamanTheGreat]

My favorite Beyoncé song is party featuring Andre 3000

[@SamanthaLove-p6z]

I'm personally not really a Swiftie (more of a casual Taylor enjoyer) but I don't totally understand the Drake comparison. When Taylor makes songs that are so-so or just downright ass, it always feels like she intended for it to sound the way it does for better or for worse (Bad Blood, You Need To Calm Down, Anti-Hero, etc). Meanwhile I feel like Drake just doesn't try most of the time but people eat it up anyway because they love him. He kinda started the trend of making albums ridiculously long to farm streams, and while Taylor has released some long records they never feel like stream bait to me.

[@theneonchimpchannel9095]

I think it just comes down to personal tastes. I don't think I'll ever see what people like about Beyonce's music, but then it's not for me. I'm not interested in music to dance to, I don't care for vocal acrobatics and I don't find her songs relatable. I don't think that makes me racist or misogynistic though as my dislike of her music has nothing to do with the colour of her skin or her gender. I'd feel exactly the same way if it were being performed by a white man. Most modern pop music just isn't my thing. I feel exactly the same way about Justin Bieber, Ed Sheeran, Justin Timberlake and a lot of other male pop singers. Out of the modern crop of pop music, there's probably only 2 or 3 artists that I actually like (The Veronicas and Poppy are the first 2 that come to mind) and a handful more that have a song or 2 that I enjoy (Miley's Wreckingball, The Weeknd's Save Your Tears and a number of others). I also don't like Kid Rock or Nickelback or Maroon 5 or Train, artists who are (or were at one point) in a genre closer to what I'd normally listen to.

[@IronWolf123]

In my opinion, I love female artists in the old days like in the 70's to 90's such as Madonna, Blondie, etc but new singers I find are just annoying because their fanbases are a bit more radical. You can't say anything negative about Taylor Swift without having an army of swifities marching at your door with pitchforks and torches calling you mysogynistic.

[@arthurr.r.lucasspublicdoma5621]

I wished you mentioned more lesser known female singer-songwriters/musicians.

[@SMCwasTaken]

Like Yoko Shimomura

[@peggy237]

That Madison Cunningham namedrop letsss gooooooo

[@stev6963]

I wholeheartedly disagree about Midnights being “regressive” for Taylor as an artist. I think she’d making really good quality pop music and there is a place for that. Not everyone wants to listen to “Folklore” and “Evermore” type albums from her. She can make them and that’s great to show she has more serious artistry but I appreciate her pop music and think she’s one of the better artists doing it right now.

[@daintycaked]

i dunno who tate mccray is, but i'm a woman and I know that fantano is not sexist. It's actually not sexist to notice when a woman makes bad music vs when one has good music. Sorry ladies with bad taste in music lol Ask Fantano what he thinks of Chelsea Wolf, Zola Jesus, or Angel Olsen and just try calling him a misogynist afterward. PS i like megan the stallion and yes i am a nympho so that's partly why 💖💖💖

[@andreiiancu2501]

How is not likeing beyonce racist ?

[@RossBaby91]

Is there a misandry problem when women don’t like male artists? Why are we always trying to protect women from bad reviews and making music that just doesn’t appeal to everyone? We can’t blame sexism or misogyny for every criticism.

[@Littlestraincloud]

I'm going to explain this to you in good faith. Misandry is not on the same systemic level as misogyny. People do not dismiss a man's work with "men just can't do (x)" the same way so many people dismiss women's artistic, athletic, or intellectual contributions. And yeah, it makes a lot of women really defensive and angry because if you will take a moment on this journey to put yourself in the mindset of always being told you're not good enough over something you can control about yourself, would give you a chip on your shoulder too. I'd love to be in a world where we can just talk about good music versus bad music, and this video is a great example of what those conversations look like. If weird dudes on the internet wouldn't ruin discussions about art and culture by review bombing the art they feel threatened by, then we wouldn't need to have these discussions. Why aren't you mad at them for making us have to have these conversations?

[@RossBaby91]

@@Littlestraincloud I feel like when it comes to pop music, it’s more about stans trying to protect their idol. Pop stars especially female ones their fanbase is more protected. The bigger their pop icon the more rabid they get. So if we say Beyonce and Taylor are overrated, because of their huge success in music as women, their fans and the media and even critics just go along with how great they are now. But I don’t think those two women are really that great as in I don’t feel their talent and art really matches the success and acclaim they get, they’re just good at marketing themselves. But for many this is deemed sexist even racist if it’s about Beyonce. Maybe male artists don’t receive bigger criticism because even their fans are just casual music listeners and don’t live through that celebrity vicariously to get very defensive and crazy. Gay men and young women and girls really could be the most toxic fans when it comes to music.

[@Littlestraincloud]

@@RossBaby91 oh yeah, insane stan culture definitely plays into it. With K-Pop groups too. But, like, there are some male stans like that who dickride for Kanye or Drake no matter how terrible the album or the actions of the artist. It's not JUST women and gay dudes, but yeah, that is a big majority.

[@charlottexroyalty7819]

​@@Littlestraincloud people don't dissmis a woman's work like that either. At least not anymore. Women have been dominating the charts around the World for at least the past 10 years. The work of the biggest female popstars has been praised by critics and the press constantly. I don't see any "reviewbombing" for any Album by a female artist either. Not on Metacritic not on Rate your music, not on AOTY nowhere. So now that a mediocre singer with mediocre writing skills Drops a below mediocre Album co wittern and produced by the KINGS of bland radio/playlist Pop. ( Greg Kurstin& Tyan Tedder) Some privileged white girls are losing their minds screaming misoginy? Laughable utterly laughable. And the fact that they call a KZbinr who has praised and supported talented Women in music like no other get's called a misoginist over calling a bad Album bad is fucking embarrassing.

[@PeterGriffin11]

@@Littlestraincloud We do live in a world where people can discuss good versus bad music though. Most people don't care about the gender of an artist. The people who do are in the minority.

[@OldTechMemories.mp3]

I was thinking about this today because my friends in highschool are say they hate Taylor Swift because she makes bad music but they don't list em to any women.

[@matchapacca1491]

5:36 Massive thanks for shouting out Madison Cunningham, she deserves more widespread praise and attention, Revealer is one of the decade's best thus far

[@theeggmcwaffle2594]

Honestly, people will just find any reason to hate Fantano besides just saying they don’t like his reviews. It’s fine to not like the man, but please can we stop trying to paint him as this monster of a person?

[@vincentdolan1992]

I really love your content and I can tell you are very thoughtful with the words you say, but your takes on Taylor are really hard to digest. When will the world make peace with the fact that you can appreciate your indie records and your underground artists and still being able of recognizing the talent of a mainstream artist. And btw, maybe you didn’t mean to, but comparing Taylor with drake… boy… judging from your videos and the way I’ve seen you talk about music, I expected more from you… anyways, if she didn’t receive the attention she gets nowadays, she would arguably be considered as the indie darling of all pretentious music listeners (not saying you are one, really love your videos) and she would never be tested or doubted the way she is now. I’ll keep watching your videos and just skip them whenever I see a picture of her on the cover or whenever I hear you mention her. Thanks for the work you put in making this ❤️

[@thisiskitta]

I agree on your commentary about being able to appreciate mainstream pop and independent & ignored smaller artists but Taylor Swift is honestly immensely overrated lol I think he did a pretty good job at showing how you can appreciate it all, he gave plenty of examples so to me this feels simply like a Tswift fanatic comment 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@thierryhenry674]

A lot of the people you have mentioned are rubsh. You should listen to Carole King, Beth Gibbons, Joni Mitchell, Roisin Murphy, ABBA, Carpenters, Elastica, Ladytron, Little Dragon, PJ Harvey, Vashti Bunyan, Jane Weaver, Catatonia.

[@maryannappiagyei4277]

Good music female and more ear 1. Rapsody 2. The Last Dinner Party 3. Phoebe Bridgers 4. Sa-roc 5. Haim 6. Sampa the great 7. joni mitchell 8. Fiona Apple 9. Charlotte Day Wilson 10. Little Simz 11. The Beaches 12. Tegan And Sara

[@yammerrryeet511]

I can say with a resounding yes to both

[@vrryc221]

gotta be honest Latto, Sexxyred, Ice Spice and other rising female acts nowadays doesn't have Good (like everlasting) quality. Im afraid to say this but with the body part Jiggling and sensualization make em more popular even they're not really close at being a talented icon. p.s. Tate's record is pop bland, but i do feel she has like the potential of similar aura to Britney, when she gets little adjustment with her overall production. p.p.s yes Flo Milii rocks and have the potential too to be next big female rapper.

[@CoolScratcher]

That Taylor and Drake comparison was pitch perfect. It's exactly how I feel about both of them - very, very talented people but kinda stuck in terms of musical evolution. For All the Dogs had some really good songs but was a boring album imo. Taylor's upcoming album feels very different to her last ten era-driven ones, so I'm certainly excited to see that musical evolution. I hope she'll be able to truly work to her potential. Also, she has a collaboration with Post Malone coming up? I've heard them compliment each other forever but I'm hesitant to see how they will work together on a song. Taylor's past collabs haven't exactly been amazing (excluding Kendrick)

[@Shbucket]

So me not liking Beyoncé makes me racist and sexist how? Being a great performer doesn’t mean your music is just as great. In the beginning you say it’s ridiculous to call someone misogynistic for not liking mcraes album but they are for not liking Beyoncé??

[@zionreid2537]

Also how could you go through this and not mention Little Simz at all

[@maryannappiagyei4277]

Rapsody and sa-roc st vincent.

[@blxxkstxx6139]

British

[@jasminebella4029]

These were interesting takes and I appreciate a good unbiased opinion. Great video

[@matthewremus2024]

Eh, with Megan and Cardi, it's at least partly that they are megastars from biting the style of other women like Nicky, Azealia Banks, and Cupcakke hard, and having it brushed off because they behave better...basically Cardi B is the Macklemore of raunch rap, tho in spite of it, WAP still goes hard

[@Antwannnn]

this is how I found out Tate McRae exists? smh

[@KAAYALL]

Female artists that I think are underrated and don't really get mentioned enough are Benee, beabadoobee and NIKI. Benee's debut album 'Hey u x" is really good, good range of features and has that alt vibe to it. Benee has a wonderful voice. beabadoobee is hella talented both vocally and musically. Beatopia is a pretty great record and her first album is pretty decent too! NIKI is someone who I think is often overlooked, she once again has a great singing voice and is also very talented with instruments. Nicole had some fantastic and very sad moments on it, the lyricism was really good. I liked the experimental vibes of Moonchild and the R&B sounds she has explored in the past Definitely worth listening to these artists

[@paulhill4382]

You managed to vocalize my chaotic thoughts about Swift and Drake perfectly. Thank you!

[@timkramar9729]

I don't care for anything past 1995.

[@fat69]

This is a topic I always pondered on when it came to my personal music tastes.. In the back of my mind I was always like, "ehhh I just don't think female music is all that good" and immediately guilt tripped my myself into thinking it was out of mysogyny. So I appreciate you covering this topic. Turns out, I am indeed a mysogynist.

[@Y0ghuretthe]

🔥

[@adoptic6342]

Well saying that *female* music is not good is pretty sus to begin with.

[@zangoon4546]

@@adoptic6342yeah WTF?! Wild ass statement. maybe you don't like the certain style of music by some female artist rather than “female music”.

[@jellybonesmasterfue45]

And why is it you don’t like “female music”…?

[@SuperRat420]

It's because you're sexist, look at you calling us '''''female'''' like we're another fing species. Grow up, already

[@weekapaugphil]

No, Tate McRae's music just sucks. KZbin was shoving her single "Kisses to My Exes" or whatever down everyone's throats via Shorts and it's just a really lame song. The same old song about someone's exes, it's just not good. I'm sure she has talent, but it's not really showing to me right now.

[@pillbugm8914]

Oh the comments are going to be spicy for this one

[@lilwombat]

I appreciate the jensen mcrae shout out I'm so obsessed with her she was my 3rd most played last year

[@andyblanton6570]

A while back, my sadistic friends made me listen to a bunch of (relatively) modern pop albums by women and people of colour in order to see if I am ready to "defy my bloodline". My thoughts are as follows: Red, Folklore, Evermore, Lemonade, and Emotion are legitimately good, but not something I ever want to go back to. Everything else that I can recall was the same inoffensive slop that you've heard every time you've watched TV or gone outside in the last 40 years, except for the one Cardi B album where she looks like the Rumor Weed, which was really obnoxious. However, The Velvet Underground & Nico, and Remain in Light. Therefore, I no longer hate women.

[@Zlexifi]

No the reason people don’t like Megan the Stalian is because she’s one note she always sounds confident which on paper is good but when that’s all you have it’s boring even when she is saying depressing shit it’s still super confident which on paper is good but with the rest it’s just boring

[@CardinalLaw9]

Glad you shouted out Madison Cunningham. She’s great and deserves a bigger audience!

[@scottbrayton9484]

Taylor Swift is Larry Bird for women

[@dunnowy123]

Spot on

[@orlock20]

I'd say some popular romance novelist that women love and most men just aren't interested in.