Is Their Music Bad or Do You Just Hate Women?

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@ThisUselessHeart2
@ThisUselessHeart2 10 ай бұрын
As a woman, you got my like on this vid the moment you said “we don’t need to prop up mediocre artists just bc they’re women” (rough paraphrase bc I can’t remember things I watched minutes ago alas) because YES THANK YOU. Women don’t deserve accolades just for being women doing things! Especially when there are so many women deserving of accolades that get no attention. Anyway, I may not *always* agree with your musical takes, but I always appreciate your perspective, and especially so in this video.
@zionreid2537
@zionreid2537 10 ай бұрын
So when Sexxy Red gets an 8, he doesn't know music but when Tate gets a negative review he's a misogynistic? It's like he can't win
@ossiejon-nwakalo8644
@ossiejon-nwakalo8644 10 ай бұрын
I bet he’s tired of being called a racist simply because he’s doesn’t like an album
@ryleighrage
@ryleighrage 10 ай бұрын
Came here to say exactly this.
@sleepdealer10
@sleepdealer10 10 ай бұрын
I think Fantano is an idiot but everyone calls him out for the wrong things
@jefferyjones8399
@jefferyjones8399 10 ай бұрын
@@sleepdealer10 Why is he an idiot? Because he has different opinions than you?
@dylansearcy3966
@dylansearcy3966 10 ай бұрын
​@@sleepdealer10fantano isn't an idiot
@MrWillcapone
@MrWillcapone 10 ай бұрын
Here's the truth: Some good musicians put out bad works sometimes Some mediocre musicians put out stellar work at times And even worse than all that, there are great music from a technical standpoint that just don't connect with you in particular. And all of those are okay. Just vibe and move on. This whole ESPNisation of music is good for no one.
@skjbhdjh
@skjbhdjh 10 ай бұрын
ctrl by sza
@jefferyjones8399
@jefferyjones8399 10 ай бұрын
I honestly don't care if a musician is "technically good." If I connect with their music, that's all I need.
@alyssapreza
@alyssapreza 10 ай бұрын
@@jefferyjones8399 EXACTLYY
@math001
@math001 10 ай бұрын
People are probably gonna come after me but I haven't connected with anything Jacob Collier has put out yet. He's a good musician but it sounds so saturated man. It's always harmony here, harmony there. I like his collab with Lizzy McAlpine and John Mayer though
@4danzy
@4danzy 10 ай бұрын
The Taylor and Drake comparison is spot on
@buttermoth5861
@buttermoth5861 10 ай бұрын
I’ve been saying this for YEARS and been getting called insane for it. Hearing it in this video was so validating lmao
@4danzy
@4danzy 10 ай бұрын
@@buttermoth5861 Both talented artists for sure, but given their influence and presence in the industry you feel like they could be doing a bit more with their music these days.
@buttermoth5861
@buttermoth5861 10 ай бұрын
@@4danzy this was exactly my point Like when you have effectively infinite resources to do whatever you want with your art and have a guaranteed listener base and you DON’T do anything interesting or try to push your artistry to new heights it’s more upsetting than if someone with no talent was trying to push the envelope Drake and Taylor are both guilty of this with the house experimentation on honestly nevermind and the folk songs on evermore/folklore both being underwhelming and bland for the genres. As a musician especially it just upsets me to witness (Sorry for the rant I have very strong feelings on these 2 artists specifically)
@4danzy
@4danzy 10 ай бұрын
@@buttermoth5861 nah don’t apologise bro you have a really valid argument on these two fr
@niyaakbar1098
@niyaakbar1098 10 ай бұрын
It’s so fucking accurate. They both have extremely large fan bases that excuse any of their behavior and will stream the fuck outta their music regardless of what it sounds like
@lovelyy6491
@lovelyy6491 10 ай бұрын
i honestly agree with everything you said. i'll just add that even when some female artists don't make the greatest music they still put on a show a thousand times better than most male artists out there. i actually can't name a lot of great current male performers besides Bruno Mars, BTS, Tyler the Creator, and.... yeah, that's it. Brockhampton used to be awesome too
@piku6427
@piku6427 10 ай бұрын
Just look outside your pop sphere, both binary genders and LGBTQ community do put amazing shows. Example turnstile, 100 gecs and St Vincent.
@niyaakbar1098
@niyaakbar1098 10 ай бұрын
I’d also add Usher but he comes from an era where male performers still had to put on a good show, he’s insanely talented on stage/live
@Save0urSisters
@Save0urSisters 10 ай бұрын
Idk if anyone will care but i have my recommendations: Björk, caroline polachek, fka twigs, arca, sophie, eartheater, rina sawayama, newjeans (yes i will be including kpop groups), poppy, marina, slayyyter, azealia banks, loona, charli xcx, pinkpantheress, shygirl, kate bush, hikaru utada They are all icons
@elioy3387
@elioy3387 10 ай бұрын
how does it feel to be 100% right? that's the cuntiest set of words you could've placed next to each other
@elioy3387
@elioy3387 9 ай бұрын
no way my comment about this list being "cunty" was deleted. LMAO i swear i meant it as a compliment, i just talk gay 😭😭
@Save0urSisters
@Save0urSisters 9 ай бұрын
@ch3rrybmbb sneaks?
@Save0urSisters
@Save0urSisters 9 ай бұрын
@ch3rrybmbb oh I get it thank you ❤❤
@purple1441
@purple1441 8 ай бұрын
Rina Sawayama and Poppy 💖💖💖
@duane_313
@duane_313 10 ай бұрын
I enjoyed Tate McCray's 'Greedy' track, but let's be real, no one will ever master the sexy bubblegum dance pop quite like Britney Spears did. Her greatest albums are practically pop bibles. It's wonderful to see critics recognizing her more in retrospect
@ronin2841
@ronin2841 10 ай бұрын
Fully agree but I do see critics doing the same they did to Britney to current artists in the future. Right now they say their music is mediocre and that they can't sing or perform but later they'll say that their music was revolutionary and that they wish music at that time was more like theirs.
@johansjournal
@johansjournal 10 ай бұрын
she didnt wrote her music. and her voice was fake, all auto tune
@christiansoto1367
@christiansoto1367 10 ай бұрын
@@johansjournalnot everything was full auto tune by Britney, and it was never her fault bc her record label would never let her take full control of her work. If she did, her music would of been a lot different in a different universe
@johansjournal
@johansjournal 10 ай бұрын
@@christiansoto1367 she wrote her music on her chaotic ep, it's awuful. not even her fans like it
@christiansoto1367
@christiansoto1367 10 ай бұрын
@@johansjournal you don’t know how to spell awful?
@sleepdealer10
@sleepdealer10 10 ай бұрын
I also feel like Ariana Grande is worth including in this conversation because the two main things people know her for is the drama of her personal life and her big hits you hear at Target or the mall (and now "yes, and?" which has stirred up controversy and is now a TikTok meme). I'd argue she only has two albums that are phenomenal from front to back but I feel like her deep cuts often go unnoticed by the general public because they hear her hits like Into You and Problem and thank u, next and think that's all she has to offer. It's actually insane how good some of her deep cuts are. Highly recommend "Break Your Heart Right Back," "Step On Up," "better off," "Only 1," "Safety Net," "Quit" with Cashmere Cat and also "Cadillac Song" which isn't on streaming.
@thisiskitta
@thisiskitta 10 ай бұрын
Quit with Cashmere Cat is a pure mystery to me on how it went completely under the radar but still has so many views on KZbin. It’s my favourite of hers. POV and Breathin’ after that. I enjoy her biggest hits but it’s the other tracks on her albums that are just amazing. I wish she didn’t do all this relationship bullshit, she was my favourite girly pop 🥲
@sleepdealer10
@sleepdealer10 10 ай бұрын
@@thisiskitta the stuff she engages in is unfortunate, but personally it doesn't stop me from enjoying her music. Maybe its just because I'm a recovering Kanye fan but her antics just don't phase me. Pov is amazing and so is breathin.
@thisiskitta
@thisiskitta 10 ай бұрын
@@sleepdealer10 yeah to be fair it’s not on Kanye’s level so I can still enjoy her music but this new release had me rolling my eyes, you know
@niyaakbar1098
@niyaakbar1098 10 ай бұрын
I’ve only listened to Yours Truly and Positions fully but those are great albums imo, YT is a memorable and strong debut album and Positions is just great front to back with maybe one or two songs I occasionally skip. Ariana has really good deep cuts that are slept on and her main fanbase isn’t a fan of her rnb but she’s heavily influenced by rnb and has the voice for it
@sleepdealer10
@sleepdealer10 10 ай бұрын
@@niyaakbar1098 Yeah its funny to me that any time she goes in an R&B direction her fans think it sucks which is beyond me cause those are some of her best tracks. Highly recommend listening to Sweetener and Thank, U Next if that's your thing, they're not full on R&B but it's mixed in pretty nicely
@tss3393
@tss3393 10 ай бұрын
Never mind that Fantano assisted in further exposing Alexis Marshall's abusive behavior by giving Kristin Hayter a chance to speak about it in one of his interviews with her, dude's a chauvinist pig for not liking an album.
@evanwright9016
@evanwright9016 10 ай бұрын
Apparently, you're only misogynistic when lightly critiquing the stan armies of borderline industry plants. As much as I love Kristin's output thus far. The greater public only come for Anthony's algorithm-friendly stuff. They're gonna be the same group of people who'll call Hayter "virgin core", but claim they're arbiters of justice for women.
@soyunaardilla
@soyunaardilla 10 ай бұрын
This.
@CoolScratcher
@CoolScratcher 10 ай бұрын
@@evanwright9016 I agree with you but Tate McRae is absolutely not an industry plant - she got her start here on youtube and has been grinding since she's 13 to get to where she is
@Wizeahhwizardfr
@Wizeahhwizardfr 10 ай бұрын
Yknow dude I actually appreciate this format and insight, I’ve been a channel follower for a few years for your documentary style videos but this was just as entertaining
@K.Angelina
@K.Angelina 10 ай бұрын
I’m a huge Taylor swift fan but I kinda agree with you. When she released folklore and evermore my entire taste in music shifted. I was always someone who was more into lyrics (that’s why I love Taylor in the first place) but with those albums it became amplified. To me midnights was a setback lyrically, though it does have its moments. you’re on your own kid and midnight rain are stand outs to me personally. I think when her focus veers into having a pop hit or a #1 that’s when it gets bad. In the fandom it’s a known thing that Taylor picks the worst singles. She goes for catchy instead of lyrical to get that radio hit. So the general public that doesn’t go out of their way to listen to anything other than her singles don’t think her lyrics are anything special. And maybe that’s her fault to some extent. But I hope her new album goes back to focusing on lyrics and she leaves the pop star thing behind for a while and just focuses on being an artist.
@nupurmishra346
@nupurmishra346 10 ай бұрын
Well she is hinting that her next album is very focused on songwriting and I hope that it's true. I do like midnights a lot but I was expecting more. Also the 3 am version of midnights is far superior than the standard one
@K.Angelina
@K.Angelina 10 ай бұрын
@@nupurmishra346 yea I feel like with the whole poetry thing it should be more lyric driven than sound driven. But you never know with her. I liked the 3am tracks way more than the standard edition tracks on first listen.
@thema1998
@thema1998 6 ай бұрын
​@@K.Angelina What did you think about The Tortured Poets Department? 🤔
@K.Angelina
@K.Angelina 6 ай бұрын
@@thema1998 I personally really liked it. I think it sits on a very interesting line between having slight pop moments and then having the more lyric focused moments. She put a lot of her humor into that record that I don’t think someone that’s just a casual Taylor swift enjoyer would understand and brush it off as simple or cringe writing. Although there are two songs I think were just plain unnecessary on the record and the lyrics give me second hand embarrassment. But overall I think it shows an interesting side of her lyric and storytelling ability. The production of the album is a completely different thing though because although we get some unique moments I definitely think she needs to change it up more when it comes to production. I really don’t think she was chasing a pop hit or moment on this record though. There’s no overly repetitive pop choruses to be sung over a tik tok dance challenge. Which is why I think her younger audience isn’t vibing with this record as much because I think lyrically and production wise it’s her most scathingly grown up record.
@BurningRubber454
@BurningRubber454 5 ай бұрын
All her songs are the same Insert 100th ex boyfriends to writ about
@ThisNameIsVeryClever
@ThisNameIsVeryClever 10 ай бұрын
Unless the opinion being examined is "I don't like this music because a woman made it," no opinion in a vacuum is enough to decide someone's prejudices.
@healxo
@healxo 10 ай бұрын
People aren't usually that upfront about their biases. But often people hating on, say, beyonce very aggressively can never offer up a justification besides sputtering up an "i don't know, i just don't like it."..... which would be valid if they didn't so strongly oppose everything she did. That screams bias to me. And your comment is useless out of context
@pink-flower.
@pink-flower. 7 ай бұрын
​@@healxo exactly i hate when people just hate on artists for no reason women or not i just don't particularly like Beyonce's songs she's a great singer but it's just not my style but some people just hate her for breathing the wrong way
@tovpp7
@tovpp7 10 ай бұрын
Fantano is called a simp and a libtard for his good reviews on a group of artists and then he’s called a misogynist and racist for bad reviews on those same artists. It’s genuinely so funny and bizarre to see happen.
@maryannappiagyei4277
@maryannappiagyei4277 10 ай бұрын
homerable mentions female artists good music 1. Florence Welch 2. Sampa the great 3. joni mitchell 4. Brandi Carlile 5. Fiona Apple 6. Julien Baker 7. Lucy Dacus
@sparrow_posts_stuff
@sparrow_posts_stuff 10 ай бұрын
don't forget phoebe bridgers, ethel cain, and caroline polachek!! :))
@andyblanton6570
@andyblanton6570 6 ай бұрын
Putting Joni Mitchell, Fiona Apple, and Brandi Carlisle on this list is like claiming you aren't racist or homophobic because you like Hendrix and Queen.
@KylieWilson
@KylieWilson 10 ай бұрын
People don’t talk enough about how wilfully ignorant a lot of pop stans can be just because a song is “catchy”, yeah but so is chlamydia I appreciate Fantano for speaking his mind and not being afraid to give something a negative review, I feel like a lot of mainstream outlets are afraid to say anything negative for fear of exactly this bs
@BeBoMaMu
@BeBoMaMu 10 ай бұрын
“yeah, but so is Chlamydia” what a bar
@PeterGriffin11
@PeterGriffin11 10 ай бұрын
Misgony is a hatred of women or a belief that women aren't equal and should not have the same rights as men. Disliking a female artist or a song that happens to be made by a woman doesn't make someone a misoganist. A similar thing has been happening with movies as well. 1:51 As someone who does like Beyonce not liking her music or thinking she's overrated doesn't mean someone is racist or sexist.
@milk_bath
@milk_bath 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I ain’t here to support a billionaire no matter how good the music is.
@Antwannnn
@Antwannnn 10 ай бұрын
@@milk_bath you being on KZbin is supporting a few billionaires. people like you are so annoying bc its all just talk
@tylerharaf5901
@tylerharaf5901 10 ай бұрын
I think it all depends on the context of why they don’t like her or said female artist if that makes sense
@adoptic6342
@adoptic6342 10 ай бұрын
While you are correct, there are a lot of men that discredit all music made by women just for being a woman making music
@PeterGriffin11
@PeterGriffin11 10 ай бұрын
@@tylerharaf5901 Indeed. If someone dislikes an artist because their a woman that would be sexist but merely disliking an artist whose female or a song that happens to be made by one is not sexist.
@milesleblanc5416
@milesleblanc5416 10 ай бұрын
I loved Midnights personally. I dont think they're generic pop songs, I think they're great tunes. I love Mastermind, and Karma and a bunch of other songs on that album. I love that record, and I take no offense to your take on Midnights.
@brandonhamaguchi
@brandonhamaguchi 10 ай бұрын
More ears to Indigo de Souza, Clairo, Marika Hackman, Tinashe, Caroline polacheck, Weyes Blood, japanese breakfast, snail mail, jorja smith, Kehlani , jessie Ware, Margo price, Laura Marling, angel Olsen, fka twigs, Frankie cosmos, Julia Holter ❤❤❤
@maryannappiagyei4277
@maryannappiagyei4277 10 ай бұрын
Good music female and more ear 1. Rapsody 2. The Last Dinner Party 3. Phoebe Bridgers 4. Sa-roc 5. Haim 6. Sampa the great 7. joni mitchell 8. Fiona Apple 9. Charlotte Day Wilson 10. Little Simz 11. The Beaches 12. Tegan And Sara
@JORE4203
@JORE4203 10 ай бұрын
It’s funny because this guy is saying I’m misogynist and racist for not liking Beyoncé, but I love so many of the artists that you 2 listed. Because they’re actually quality artists
@nickjohnson398
@nickjohnson398 10 ай бұрын
This is the crux of my issue… there are way more talented women out there that I choose champion instead of the slop that’s in vogue
@bazookaman1353
@bazookaman1353 9 ай бұрын
"She's one of the best in the genre, so if you hate her you're [buzzword]" What if I just don't like the genre?
@PetahSonic
@PetahSonic 10 ай бұрын
Its so funny to see that people taking the "if you dont like Beyonce you're racist" joke too seriously lmao Btw you made some really great points
@diesehnswurdigkeit9019
@diesehnswurdigkeit9019 10 ай бұрын
He had albums from women like Lingua Ignota, Little Simz, Spellling, Lana Del Rey, St Vincent, Arca, etc in his top tens albums of the year lists so he gives a lot of praise to women when it is due...
@dreamcity7514
@dreamcity7514 10 ай бұрын
I just don't liek beyonce's style from a taste side of things. I recognize that she is talented and deserves her recognition. Is that an opinion I am allowed to have!?
@RyanTheSharkie69
@RyanTheSharkie69 10 ай бұрын
Of course! No one should be judged by their opinions!
@Antwannnn
@Antwannnn 10 ай бұрын
she has multiple styles tho so I question what style do you dislike? Bc someone can say they hate Kanyes style but have only listened to Yeezus and Jesus Is King. And any Ye fan can tell you College Dropout is nothing like Yeezus, same as Renaissance is nothing like 4. maybe it takes an avid listener to hear the nuance?
@krehnah7541
@krehnah7541 10 ай бұрын
why wouldnt you be "allowed" to have that opinion?
@malcolmhodnett8874
@malcolmhodnett8874 10 ай бұрын
No because according to this you probably hate women AND black people. Wtf
@pillbugm8914
@pillbugm8914 10 ай бұрын
You know you are
@themaybeso6117
@themaybeso6117 10 ай бұрын
I think being known by other younger people in the dance social media world helped Tate McRae a lot in her singer-songwriter phase. She’s solid, I think this commercial style is flattering for her. She did notable competitions and TV gigs and presumably let go a Bayeriches Staatsballet scholarship around the time she was doing KZbin.
@brandonhamaguchi
@brandonhamaguchi 10 ай бұрын
That green light is driving me crazy 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫
@dunnowy123
@dunnowy123 10 ай бұрын
Happy you made this video, a couple points: 1) I don't think it's unfair to say Taylor Swift is like Drake. She's better and more consistent than Drake, can make some genuinely great music, and produces hits just by putting her name on it. And they appeared in an Apple commercial together so for me, that seals it. 2) Does no one else find it EXTREMELY SUS that Tate McCrae went from sad girl Gen Zer to hyper sexual pop star in like...a minute? She's a legitimate example of an industry plant and everything with her feels so calculated. That being said, sure, I like a song here and there, but man...to defend her to the death is an indicator you're NPC, I'm sorry.
@pointlessfeature
@pointlessfeature 10 ай бұрын
please do elaborate on what "industry plant" means to you
@MusicOrLoseItTV
@MusicOrLoseItTV 10 ай бұрын
I dunno about industry plant yet it seems you gotta be a dreary monotone Monica contributing to teen girl depression or a stone cold hoochie to be a female music entertainer on KZbin trending.
@resbun15
@resbun15 10 ай бұрын
No but Tate McRae is good I promise :(
@thisiskitta
@thisiskitta 10 ай бұрын
He hit it out of the park with his comparison to Drake. She absolutely is overrated and her zealous base pushes her far more than deserved (which doesn’t mean she is bad either!)
@IsaiahFieldss
@IsaiahFieldss 10 ай бұрын
well drake makes absolute hits by putting his name on it as well so not a completely correct comparison, for a rapper drake is HUGE. Tate Mcrae is definitely not an industry plant she has been making music for years and has been an influencer for even longer. If anything she’s even less of an influencer than someone like taylor who had rich parents buy a label
@MusicOrLoseItTV
@MusicOrLoseItTV 10 ай бұрын
07:25 I’m very sexually libertarian yet hip hop hoochification is played out. No other genre of music has 99% of the women hyper sexualized.
@orbinsolem
@orbinsolem 10 ай бұрын
Beyonce is great and so is renaissance but I hate that people think that its that revolutionary. artists in the alternative dance/electronic pop sphere have been doing this shit for years but bc shes filthy rich and mega famous she gets all the accolades for inventing music
@jameslight4391
@jameslight4391 10 ай бұрын
I don't think her being rich has anything to do with it but her fame yes
@AugustRx
@AugustRx 10 ай бұрын
That's.. the whole reason people are impressed. Taking a risk, genrebending when she has everything to lose and delivering hard.
@orbinsolem
@orbinsolem 10 ай бұрын
@@jameslight4391 Well she can afford to spend ages with the best producers and musicians of any genre to make an album. True its not directly linked but 100% relevant
@orbinsolem
@orbinsolem 10 ай бұрын
@@AugustRx Safe opinion, my view is that shes gentrifying to a slight degree
@pointlessfeature
@pointlessfeature 10 ай бұрын
@@AugustRx genrebending by doing what exactly?
@FalloftheHouseofUsher
@FalloftheHouseofUsher 10 ай бұрын
So with Beyoncé, I never really got the hype. I’ve listened to some of her most critically acclaimed stuff and it all has an aura of sameness. I’ll say she’s a crazy inventive performer but I just have never really felt her music, and she started a lot of musical trends that I’m not a fan of, she’s just not my cup of tea.
@lucymorrison
@lucymorrison 10 ай бұрын
almost every bad review of a Tegan and Sara album reads like an “I don’t hate women in music, but” comment
@dyll_pyckle
@dyll_pyckle 10 ай бұрын
This vid was super cool!! Loved the format
@mustafamehdi1663
@mustafamehdi1663 10 ай бұрын
I think midnights was a setback for Taylor artistically but tbh one mid albulm doesn’t take away her talent or her discography folklore evermore and 1989 are those legendary album im sure like drake taylor can make her next albulms boring and would still be the biggest thing but drake is soo inconsistent so to compare him with Taylor seems unfair and shes a great songwriter is not a limiting experience its her songwriting that sets her apart
@Littlestraincloud
@Littlestraincloud 10 ай бұрын
Great video, man. Agree with a lot of your breakdowns here. Gonna check out some of these artists.
@thelittlepeople5500
@thelittlepeople5500 10 ай бұрын
My favorite band of all time is Purity Ring, and Chvrches is a guilty pleasure. It's not that I'm a misogynist because I don't like the bands featured in this video. It's that radio pop is just not good, for the most part, musically, lyrically, production wise, or in any other way.
@Xanaduum
@Xanaduum 10 ай бұрын
It's a thing in all areas of the media at the moment, get media attention by claiming racism or sexism if you don't get an award, or if some says they don't like your music/film/art/product. I mean, fair enough when those things are the definitive main reason but many time it just really isn't. Purity Ring are pretty cool BTW.
@michaelauberry1564
@michaelauberry1564 10 ай бұрын
If you think Fantano is misogynistic then you are telling on yourself that you know nothing about him
@fidlar777
@fidlar777 10 ай бұрын
PLEASE could you tell me where did you get that beanie? Or what brand is it? I've been looking for that red smiley logo for SO LONG
@Keep_It_G
@Keep_It_G 10 ай бұрын
Clout Collection Smiley Face Embroidered Beanie
@owenfitzgerald5928
@owenfitzgerald5928 10 ай бұрын
All big female artists get alot of misogynistic hate but not liking one of them doesnt make you misogynistic as long as it is for valid reasons beyond their gender. They are all popular and talented but you dont have to like them to notice they are talented (I am not sure if talented is the right word because its little strange and contradictory to say I dont like someones music while also saying they are talented but by talented I just meant they clearly have an ability to connect with people through music that makes people feel good hence why they are popular.)
@TexasChick45
@TexasChick45 10 ай бұрын
That doesn't make any sense. Like, why don't you like them... because they're popular, because they're women or both? And, if it doesn't make you misogynistic, then what are you? Sheesh.
@owenfitzgerald5928
@owenfitzgerald5928 10 ай бұрын
@@TexasChick45 I have just re read my comment its very badly worded will edit after this. I like many female artists. If you dont like all female music artists then yeah you are misogynistic but I just meant if someone says they dont like Taylor Swift or 1 female music artist it doesnt mean they are misogynistic there are plenty of valid reasons not to like individual artists for example Taylor Swift is very popular and clearly talented but all that I have heard from her apart from one or 2 songs I really just dont like they are often too repetitive over the top cringe for me although tbf I believe those are more her older big hit stuff and not all of her discography is like that I also dont like her carbon footprint and how she seems to be about her pj flights but I do like her lgbt+ open allyship and she also seems good on other progessive topics a good example of all of this is her song we need to calm down. Its not my type of music at all the video is over the top camp and cringy for me which i am not a fan of but the video and song also has progressive messaging I like and agree with it including advocating for fans to sign a petition for equality in American laws. Then I do like some Olivia Rodrigo, Billie Eillish, Dua Lipa, Lana Del Rey, Maddison Beer, Victoria
@trentterryfriends3934
@trentterryfriends3934 10 ай бұрын
How does not being a fan of a certain album make Fantano a sexist?? He's given positive reviews to heaps of female artist, he gave Olivia Rodrigo a positive review, he gave PinkPantheress a positive review..
@nicko7939
@nicko7939 10 ай бұрын
Personally both
@adoptic6342
@adoptic6342 10 ай бұрын
Respect the honesty
@elijahkimball4734
@elijahkimball4734 10 ай бұрын
I'm not a sexist! I just think every female fronted band reminds me of Paramore!
@killingthemood2000
@killingthemood2000 10 ай бұрын
I love the Flo Milli shoutout! Also suggesting Doechii as the rap IT-girl, she's super charismatic, energetic, witty, and even has a good voice for pop cuts. Reminds me of early Azealia without the controversy
@daaimdaanish7016
@daaimdaanish7016 10 ай бұрын
I largely agree; however, I think Invasion of Privacy is a pretty good album... not comparable to Illmatic, Miseducation, and so on... but definitely comparable to Astro World... an album I hella love and still play to this day... I still play tracks from both albums. All said, I still mostly agree with your assessment and fully appreciate your opinion.
@nbeutler1134
@nbeutler1134 10 ай бұрын
Not liking mid Old Navy pop music = misogyny
@thelittlepeople5500
@thelittlepeople5500 10 ай бұрын
🤣🎯
@imawakemymindisalive13
@imawakemymindisalive13 10 ай бұрын
lmao i’m a woman who doesn’t like tate mcrae music… and loves better than revenge by taylor swift…
@thelittlepeople5500
@thelittlepeople5500 10 ай бұрын
Tate McRae is unlistenable IMO. I'd somehow missed Better Than Revenge but on a quick listen, I actually think it's a pretty good song. TBH I don't know why I'm even here, I tend to think this guy has terrible taste in music. I should prolly unsubscribe 😅. @@imawakemymindisalive13
@lanadelreysalways
@lanadelreysalways 10 ай бұрын
@@imawakemymindisalive13 THE STORY STARTS WHEN IT WAS HOT AND IT WAS SUMMER AND
@DangerousKaos
@DangerousKaos 9 ай бұрын
Agreed. Like people are so damn misogynistic. This was a great video
@sawderf741
@sawderf741 10 ай бұрын
Growing up I rarely liked any female vocalists. At some point I decided to go out of my way to find some female vocalist songs and albums. Here are two I found that I liked; War Garden by Cold Beat. Tiny Star by Tiny Star and The Blasting company.
@tylerhackner9731
@tylerhackner9731 10 ай бұрын
Why not both? Tho tbf if I think somethings bad I’ll criticize it no matter who made it male or female
@TeeteringTod
@TeeteringTod 10 ай бұрын
I love sia, Enya, the cranberries, miley Cyrus, etc. but most pop and female rap honestly tends to be 1 dimensional songs that are about how the "singer" has all the guys chasing them. Then there are talented people I don't care for like Beyoncé because it's not my cup of tea. I don't like men that make soulless music either and tbh there's more men in music that I don't like than women. Take rap for example. Since the 90s rap songs that aren't about gangbanging, partying, dr*gs, or s*x are rarer than diamonds so I don't like 99% of new hip-hop. In summation, mediocrity+empty lyrics= me not liking you.
@tommystrickland6268
@tommystrickland6268 10 ай бұрын
The taylor swift , drake comparison was perfect
@thebigdawgj
@thebigdawgj 9 ай бұрын
Two labels people use for others they don't like that have never made sense to me as negatives are "transphobe" and "misogynist" like being those things are supposed to be bad things.
@bazookaman1353
@bazookaman1353 9 ай бұрын
I'm not a misogynist, I'm a gender differentiated misanthrope.
@winter_3407
@winter_3407 8 ай бұрын
hating women for being women (misogyny) is a bad thing… do you genuinely not believe that’s bad?
@thebigdawgj
@thebigdawgj 8 ай бұрын
@@winter_3407 I *know* it isn't.
@sonicgoo1121
@sonicgoo1121 10 ай бұрын
Amazing how many people comment on the thumbnail and miss what's said in the first 10 seconds of the video...
@SP-mf9sh
@SP-mf9sh 10 ай бұрын
I'm called a pick me because I think a lot of sad girl lesbian indie sucks. I'm a gay girl lol I can't win.
@Datv24
@Datv24 10 ай бұрын
Got called sexist because I don’t like Taylor Swift but I rather Listen to Debbie Harry or Joan Jett her fan base doesn’t help this case
@theneonchimpchannel9095
@theneonchimpchannel9095 10 ай бұрын
I think it just comes down to personal tastes. I don't think I'll ever see what people like about Beyonce's music, but then it's not for me. I'm not interested in music to dance to, I don't care for vocal acrobatics and I don't find her songs relatable. I don't think that makes me racist or misogynistic though as my dislike of her music has nothing to do with the colour of her skin or her gender. I'd feel exactly the same way if it were being performed by a white man. Most modern pop music just isn't my thing. I feel exactly the same way about Justin Bieber, Ed Sheeran, Justin Timberlake and a lot of other male pop singers. Out of the modern crop of pop music, there's probably only 2 or 3 artists that I actually like (The Veronicas and Poppy are the first 2 that come to mind) and a handful more that have a song or 2 that I enjoy (Miley's Wreckingball, The Weeknd's Save Your Tears and a number of others). I also don't like Kid Rock or Nickelback or Maroon 5 or Train, artists who are (or were at one point) in a genre closer to what I'd normally listen to.
@jasminebella4029
@jasminebella4029 10 ай бұрын
These were interesting takes and I appreciate a good unbiased opinion. Great video
@hanger9461
@hanger9461 10 ай бұрын
Fantano has been against sexism, homophobia and racism his entire career, and this is how they pay him back. Embarrassing
@SuperRat420
@SuperRat420 10 ай бұрын
I think it's hilarious you think people need to be paid back for basic human decency. You don't deserve a medal for not being sexist, that's standard
@Xanaduum
@Xanaduum 10 ай бұрын
​These days you're lucky as a guy that people don't claim you're sexist, even if in reality you believe in equality. I'll just take being left alone. ​@@SuperRat420
@SuperRat420
@SuperRat420 10 ай бұрын
@@Xanaduum I doubt you're sincere in your so called equal beliefs bud.
@Xanaduum
@Xanaduum 10 ай бұрын
@@SuperRat420 proves my point. I'm a man, so you can just say that, and you did. Regardless of what I personally believe or what I do in my day-to-day life. Everyone wants to score quick culture points with cheap shots. 🤷
@SuperRat420
@SuperRat420 10 ай бұрын
@@Xanaduum no I'm saying because of your attitude, not your sex. Live in reality please
@TexasChick45
@TexasChick45 10 ай бұрын
@7:16-7:34 You mailed it w/ the Megan Thee Stallion hate.These are the exact reasons why Megan gets on much hate online. It has absolutely nothing to do with the music whatsoever. Although, I do think that the people that hate her are just weirdo Barbz & bots claiming to be fans of that loser she sent to prison. I really don't think that dude has fans at all.
@BFreeGodzilla
@BFreeGodzilla 10 ай бұрын
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I've never understood the Beyonce hype. She's fine, but I don't get why people put her in the GOAT debates. Maybe its a generational thing, shes literally older than my parents
@PastelDeChocloReign
@PastelDeChocloReign 10 ай бұрын
She has one of the strongest pipes in the game, great dancer and produces amazing shows. The goat title enters when comparing her quality (and even longevity) to modern artists
@Whatever777-t7c
@Whatever777-t7c 9 ай бұрын
Go listen to Lemonade
@anabltc
@anabltc 10 ай бұрын
this sounds incomplete, I was expecting some more names included, like billie eilish, olivia rodrigo, lorde, adele... I agree that "affirmative action" on that level doesn't really help women. If any girl got that far, 1. fantastic, and 2. she's playing in the big league already and it's ok to say if an album/a song is underwhelming
@justindittburner216
@justindittburner216 10 ай бұрын
Not a fan of Cardi or Megan tbh, actually I'd go as far as saying I can't stand them. Little Simz on the other hand; absolutely phenomenal
@krehnah7541
@krehnah7541 10 ай бұрын
YESS! her I Might Be An Introvert album is soo good
@TexasChick45
@TexasChick45 10 ай бұрын
You "can't stand them"? You're obviously the weirdo this video was made for.🙄
@TexasChick45
@TexasChick45 10 ай бұрын
You "can't stand them"? 🙄You're definitely who this video was intended for.
@justindittburner216
@justindittburner216 10 ай бұрын
@@TexasChick45 Nah
@matchapacca1491
@matchapacca1491 10 ай бұрын
5:36 Massive thanks for shouting out Madison Cunningham, she deserves more widespread praise and attention, Revealer is one of the decade's best thus far
@Mrs.Magix58
@Mrs.Magix58 10 ай бұрын
he gave two albums made by women, one of which is literally a top-tier female rage album, 10s and they think he hates women
@Cargo_Bay
@Cargo_Bay 10 ай бұрын
He’s not mysogonistic. People are dumb and get in their feelings over their Standom.
@lisabarnes4381
@lisabarnes4381 10 ай бұрын
Fantano said Kanye’s album was unreviewable. Kanye’s album is number one. They always give good albums bad reviews.
@CardinalLaw9
@CardinalLaw9 10 ай бұрын
Glad you shouted out Madison Cunningham. She’s great and deserves a bigger audience!
@thiagodounis6737
@thiagodounis6737 10 ай бұрын
I thought that you would venture in some more indie music, you just talked about extremely pop artists and rap artists. There are so many interesting that are not that unknown but are not extremely popular female artists like Florence Welsh, Carly Rae Jepsen, Haim and others that fly a little bit under the radar like The Staves, Alice Merton and Amy Macdonald
@IronWolf123
@IronWolf123 10 ай бұрын
In my opinion, I love female artists in the old days like in the 70's to 90's such as Madonna, Blondie, etc but new singers I find are just annoying because their fanbases are a bit more radical. You can't say anything negative about Taylor Swift without having an army of swifities marching at your door with pitchforks and torches calling you mysogynistic.
@ViktorMiranda1
@ViktorMiranda1 10 ай бұрын
Jensen McRae is amazing! I love the performance of “Adams” Rib you mentioned! 🔥
@TPJN777
@TPJN777 10 ай бұрын
Spellling and Eartheater should have been mentioned here 🤷‍♀️
@viceeroyy
@viceeroyy 10 ай бұрын
gotta be honest Latto, Sexxyred, Ice Spice and other rising female acts nowadays doesn't have Good (like everlasting) quality. Im afraid to say this but with the body part Jiggling and sensualization make em more popular even they're not really close at being a talented icon. p.s. Tate's record is pop bland, but i do feel she has like the potential of similar aura to Britney, when she gets little adjustment with her overall production. p.p.s yes Flo Milii rocks and have the potential too to be next big female rapper.
@CoolScratcher
@CoolScratcher 10 ай бұрын
That Taylor and Drake comparison was pitch perfect. It's exactly how I feel about both of them - very, very talented people but kinda stuck in terms of musical evolution. For All the Dogs had some really good songs but was a boring album imo. Taylor's upcoming album feels very different to her last ten era-driven ones, so I'm certainly excited to see that musical evolution. I hope she'll be able to truly work to her potential. Also, she has a collaboration with Post Malone coming up? I've heard them compliment each other forever but I'm hesitant to see how they will work together on a song. Taylor's past collabs haven't exactly been amazing (excluding Kendrick)
@paulhill4382
@paulhill4382 10 ай бұрын
You managed to vocalize my chaotic thoughts about Swift and Drake perfectly. Thank you!
@arthurr.r.lucasspublicdoma5621
@arthurr.r.lucasspublicdoma5621 7 ай бұрын
I wished you mentioned more lesser known female singer-songwriters/musicians.
@SMCwasTaken
@SMCwasTaken 5 ай бұрын
Like Yoko Shimomura
@jefferyjones8399
@jefferyjones8399 10 ай бұрын
This is the first time I've heard of Tate McRae. I am a bonafide Swiftie so I am probably biased. She's one of my favorite songwriters.
@theeggmcwaffle2594
@theeggmcwaffle2594 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, people will just find any reason to hate Fantano besides just saying they don’t like his reviews. It’s fine to not like the man, but please can we stop trying to paint him as this monster of a person?
@yammerrryeet511
@yammerrryeet511 10 ай бұрын
I can say with a resounding yes to both
@marvincorre4783
@marvincorre4783 4 ай бұрын
I love Taylor Swift but I feel like 1989 and Midnights shouldn’t won as there were better albums such as To Pimp A Butterfly, SOS, GUTS & More
@KAAYALL
@KAAYALL 10 ай бұрын
Female artists that I think are underrated and don't really get mentioned enough are Benee, beabadoobee and NIKI. Benee's debut album 'Hey u x" is really good, good range of features and has that alt vibe to it. Benee has a wonderful voice. beabadoobee is hella talented both vocally and musically. Beatopia is a pretty great record and her first album is pretty decent too! NIKI is someone who I think is often overlooked, she once again has a great singing voice and is also very talented with instruments. Nicole had some fantastic and very sad moments on it, the lyricism was really good. I liked the experimental vibes of Moonchild and the R&B sounds she has explored in the past Definitely worth listening to these artists
@SeamanTheGreat
@SeamanTheGreat 10 ай бұрын
My favorite Beyoncé song is party featuring Andre 3000
@stev6963
@stev6963 10 ай бұрын
I wholeheartedly disagree about Midnights being “regressive” for Taylor as an artist. I think she’d making really good quality pop music and there is a place for that. Not everyone wants to listen to “Folklore” and “Evermore” type albums from her. She can make them and that’s great to show she has more serious artistry but I appreciate her pop music and think she’s one of the better artists doing it right now.
@northyanktonmemories
@northyanktonmemories 10 ай бұрын
you're my favorite white guy music youtuber
@lilwombat
@lilwombat 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate the jensen mcrae shout out I'm so obsessed with her she was my 3rd most played last year
@pillbugm8914
@pillbugm8914 10 ай бұрын
Oh the comments are going to be spicy for this one
@OrkChops
@OrkChops 10 ай бұрын
Eh, with Megan and Cardi, it's at least partly that they are megastars from biting the style of other women like Nicky, Azealia Banks, and Cupcakke hard, and having it brushed off because they behave better...basically Cardi B is the Macklemore of raunch rap, tho in spite of it, WAP still goes hard
@zionreid2537
@zionreid2537 10 ай бұрын
Also how could you go through this and not mention Little Simz at all
@maryannappiagyei4277
@maryannappiagyei4277 10 ай бұрын
Rapsody and sa-roc st vincent.
@blxxkstxx6139
@blxxkstxx6139 7 ай бұрын
British
@duane_313
@duane_313 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the recommendation Jensen is great! I never heard of he until this video.
@Zlexifi
@Zlexifi 10 ай бұрын
No the reason people don’t like Megan the Stalian is because she’s one note she always sounds confident which on paper is good but when that’s all you have it’s boring even when she is saying depressing shit it’s still super confident which on paper is good but with the rest it’s just boring
@daintycaked
@daintycaked 10 ай бұрын
i dunno who tate mccray is, but i'm a woman and I know that fantano is not sexist. It's actually not sexist to notice when a woman makes bad music vs when one has good music. Sorry ladies with bad taste in music lol Ask Fantano what he thinks of Chelsea Wolf, Zola Jesus, or Angel Olsen and just try calling him a misogynist afterward. PS i like megan the stallion and yes i am a nympho so that's partly why 💖💖💖
@projectz975
@projectz975 10 ай бұрын
i feel like Swifties would have their entire lives changed if they just listened to any other artist ever. we could have a whole cultural revolution if we could make that happen
@imawakemymindisalive13
@imawakemymindisalive13 10 ай бұрын
as a swiftie i can confirm. my life changed when i expanded my listening library
@lucymorrison
@lucymorrison 10 ай бұрын
real
@PotatoWaffle-sl4xf
@PotatoWaffle-sl4xf 10 ай бұрын
I listen to death metal and Taylor swift it’s great
@atunnelunderswiftblvd
@atunnelunderswiftblvd 6 ай бұрын
thinking we only listen to t.s is wild
@sleepdealer10
@sleepdealer10 10 ай бұрын
I'm personally not really a Swiftie (more of a casual Taylor enjoyer) but I don't totally understand the Drake comparison. When Taylor makes songs that are so-so or just downright ass, it always feels like she intended for it to sound the way it does for better or for worse (Bad Blood, You Need To Calm Down, Anti-Hero, etc). Meanwhile I feel like Drake just doesn't try most of the time but people eat it up anyway because they love him. He kinda started the trend of making albums ridiculously long to farm streams, and while Taylor has released some long records they never feel like stream bait to me.
@thierryhenry674
@thierryhenry674 10 ай бұрын
A lot of the people you have mentioned are rubsh. You should listen to Carole King, Beth Gibbons, Joni Mitchell, Roisin Murphy, ABBA, Carpenters, Elastica, Ladytron, Little Dragon, PJ Harvey, Vashti Bunyan, Jane Weaver, Catatonia.
@maryannappiagyei4277
@maryannappiagyei4277 10 ай бұрын
Good music female and more ear 1. Rapsody 2. The Last Dinner Party 3. Phoebe Bridgers 4. Sa-roc 5. Haim 6. Sampa the great 7. joni mitchell 8. Fiona Apple 9. Charlotte Day Wilson 10. Little Simz 11. The Beaches 12. Tegan And Sara
@weekapaugphil
@weekapaugphil 10 ай бұрын
No, Tate McRae's music just sucks. KZbin was shoving her single "Kisses to My Exes" or whatever down everyone's throats via Shorts and it's just a really lame song. The same old song about someone's exes, it's just not good. I'm sure she has talent, but it's not really showing to me right now.
@SMCwasTaken
@SMCwasTaken 5 ай бұрын
The best female artist is Yoko Shimomura
@mequana
@mequana 4 ай бұрын
1:57 are you completely boggled? Lmfao
@timkramar9729
@timkramar9729 10 ай бұрын
I don't care for anything past 1995.
@tessawilson2842
@tessawilson2842 10 ай бұрын
I always think this about woman specifically in rock music. I think they get a lot of hate but are really good...the band Haim comes to mind. I honestly don't get it.
@CW12190
@CW12190 10 ай бұрын
What do you think about the Renaissance album?
@Antwannnn
@Antwannnn 10 ай бұрын
this is how I found out Tate McRae exists? smh
@vincentdolan1992
@vincentdolan1992 10 ай бұрын
I really love your content and I can tell you are very thoughtful with the words you say, but your takes on Taylor are really hard to digest. When will the world make peace with the fact that you can appreciate your indie records and your underground artists and still being able of recognizing the talent of a mainstream artist. And btw, maybe you didn’t mean to, but comparing Taylor with drake… boy… judging from your videos and the way I’ve seen you talk about music, I expected more from you… anyways, if she didn’t receive the attention she gets nowadays, she would arguably be considered as the indie darling of all pretentious music listeners (not saying you are one, really love your videos) and she would never be tested or doubted the way she is now. I’ll keep watching your videos and just skip them whenever I see a picture of her on the cover or whenever I hear you mention her. Thanks for the work you put in making this ❤️
@thisiskitta
@thisiskitta 10 ай бұрын
I agree on your commentary about being able to appreciate mainstream pop and independent & ignored smaller artists but Taylor Swift is honestly immensely overrated lol I think he did a pretty good job at showing how you can appreciate it all, he gave plenty of examples so to me this feels simply like a Tswift fanatic comment 🤷🏻‍♀️
@peymanyaghoubi6560
@peymanyaghoubi6560 Ай бұрын
Taylor swift actually does make best music these days , Taylor is a good vocalist , brilliant song writer ,she does participate in production and also directs her own music videos , and the.person you suggested for us to listen to instead could never ever perform for 3 hours and 45 minutes ….no one is as good in every aspect all at once so yes she deserves every win and every nomination and in fact she deserves much more considering the fact that she has never won song or record of the year
@AugustRx
@AugustRx 10 ай бұрын
Both but one more than the other
@peggy237
@peggy237 10 ай бұрын
That Madison Cunningham namedrop letsss gooooooo
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