Is There a Divine Plan to the Enormous Suffering in the World ? Sadhguru

www.ishafoundation.org/ Sadhguru discusses the many dynamics and perspectives of the enormous suffering currently happening in the world. (SaO48)

[@hiban8600]

He is our messenger just like jesus and buddha and krishna ... we need to listen to him and make change... dont get scared of not living so called mordern life. choose nature instead.. atleast at the time of death nature will accept you with love..

[@cyantess8423]

this man makes me laugh at my former stupid ways as a former christian i lost my faith when i got sick and almost died before my brain inflamation i was one of those that parroted to others that god had a plan actually creation does have a plan cos being an avid reader i couldnt read cos of my medsthat make me woozy so i turned to you tube and met sadhguru via my lap top watchin lots of his videos i have finally forgiven my self for believing in my parents and cultural philosophies that didnt work ever for me. thank you sadhguru for what you are doing via such videos

[@bhairavenelaitambi873]

Your Cultural society and your parents both had a good point & missed a point simultaneously. The good point is Christianity is A way back to Almighty but the missed point is it's not THE only way back. If one follows his/her religion joyously seeing himself/herself in everyone then your religion is sufficient though a religion is optional to all. When a Hindu hugs a non Hindu, his notion is Live and Let Live meaning one must be given the freedom to live and work to his or her Liberation.

[@ritam314]

He does speak on Jesus. Rarely but with a ton of reverence...it's quite beautiful. He does the same with other famous saints..like yogananda. rare but he does.

[@devannaidoo9611]

When we start feeling the suffering of others as our own then suffering will stop 🙏

[@DamianPetryshyn]

"See, accepting somebody else's' suffering is easy, but when it comes to you, that's when the problem is, isn't it? Now, when you are being eaten, then you cannot talk with the same nonchalance, isn't it? Isn't it so?" (3:34)

[@DamianPetryshyn]

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[@playlist-explorer]

when your being eaten 🥶

[@innerinquiry]

i find old videos more has more depth and appeal to spiritual seeker then new once, in new videos questions have lost there depth they have become more mundane....

[@FactsandReelsForall]

Sadhguru is always like that, but now since he's gone world level, more people are following him and hence more dilution has occured.

[@ravindranpillai5155]

luv this guy...

[@LuDimezofKush]

That is a great perspective.

[@klouder]

Thanks for sharing

[@hilath]

Thank You

[@nitinmahendru92]

Excellent Post.

[@deekshapathak3790]

Cool mood sadhguru..

[@Gizmo1869]

everything is perfect..

[@RicoJazz]

@amitp2 sir please calm down. He simply said the mankind is a mess right now. "If man disappears from this planet then everything is perfect", he said. That is simply to say the problem is not with Earth, but mankind. So this is why he is doing what he can to HELP FIX IT, make no mistake this man is a million times more enthusiastic about human life and being human than anyone else!

[@vishaldhar420]

Kick ass answer...;)

[@iankimca]

I will say this: the man who Sadhguru predicts will become so powerful that he will not let anyone live will be the one who denies everything in his life to reach this one goal. Many deny many joys in their life to accomplish some things but only a handful will have the will to deny everything and risk everything to become the first mortal God in recent history.

[@amitp2]

@flakeyF00nt From ad hominum attacks, you have made your level of intellect very clear.

[@GGAAAFF]

Buen regaño.

[@SukhpreetBal]

thanks

[@faisala2109]

So from what I understand there's no divine plan to the suffering in the world, isn't it?

[@nikhilpujyar802]

MASTER ....M HONOURED BEING A DISCIPLE OF URZ !

[@kaianderson6691]

yes

[@CzechRiot]

Death is perfection.

[@kkb2687]

Nice

[@TobiasLars]

resonate completely with this.... Free Will creates the 'fall' from the Natural way of Being....we reap the consequences and the design is that these 'consequences' are meant to prod us to 'wake up'.

[@LunaLu-00]

"if man disappears from this planet, then everything is perfect" Lol

[@LunaLu-00]

Man- as in mankind

[@ananthakeerthy6640]

correct

[@LunaLu-00]

@@ananthakeerthy6640 💯

[@Madhra2k24]

👍

[@javalptl]

🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@deekshapathak3790]

Once I went to slums. Can't imagine

[@CzechRiot]

it is

[@mariusscheijgrond9061]

issunditso?

[@mariusscheijgrond9061]

is it so?

[@biggmoneyme]

you're right. you should only accept as truth you've experienced. and thats exactly how i live my life. so don't believe me, but don't totally dismiss it to the point you never give it thought again

[@mariusscheijgrond9061]

issendit?

[@nhall022]

@amitp2 I think you missed his point.

[@aDislikeBot]

@amitp2 And my language? Have you ever left your house and spoken to people? Its actually quite common to use those words.

[@aDislikeBot]

Nor does it run on disbelief, it accepts science. Just because something is relevant where you live, doesn't mean the world revolves around it.

[@xoriant123]

i was there in this meeting. It was in Le Royal Meridian start hotel in Chennai. I know ur next question...no i wasn't the person asking the question.

[@nowahkater7614]

So suffering is a bad thing? I think without darkness you cant see the light. Therefore suffering seems a perfect thing to me.

[@nowahkater7614]

And a part of the so called 'divine plan'

[@raymukhtar6806]

you r speaking of duality, which is only present when u r a slave to your sensory organs. The whole point, as sadhguru speaks on, is to get past the physical. Go within

[@Olivia-bs5wj]

I don’t get it either. First people and sadhguru says there is no problems only solutions and then he says this. Also when do we become victims?

[@biggmoneyme]

but i'd agree it is different with the modern in a sense. it's just still in it's infancy. the yogic tradition isn't

[@xavierpaololedesmamandreza]

To that Questioner in the audience - please be a little more sensitive and use your common sense and not just ask for the sake of asking it. Live in REALITY; not in your imagination. Thank you. 😔

[@LuDimezofKush]

I'm curious if suffering is brought upon one self thru karma. If so isn't it our own fault we suffer.

[@CGExp]

yes , but it doesn't mean we disregard someone else's suffering by calling it their karma

[@shanvi7672]

Playing words

[@biggmoneyme]

sure they do. every society has their high priest who greatly influence their belief systems. they use don't refer to them as priest today

[@aDislikeBot]

You think I don't realise what science is? What is your point here? I'm honestly trying to figure it out.

[@amitp2]

@flakeyF00nt The message that I hear is "Forget the humans, save the trees". Maybe, I don't have the same level of understanding as you do. Or maybe, Sadguru should deliver messages more unambiguously and straightforward manner.

[@thegreatprophesizedantichr3762]

The enormous suffering in the world IS the Divine Plan. -.-

[@thegreatprophesizedantichr3762]

Death to Isha Foundation & all organisms that are Servants of the Devil against me. Death to the Devil Creator who can't be destroyed, but I can at least fantasize.... Try anyways.

[@cptbob100]

"The lazy are saving the planet." Yup that's me, you're welcome everyone

[@aDislikeBot]

I never preached about lack of evidence, someone else brought up the topic. But even if I did go around doing that, I certainly still would be less of a nutjob than someone that believes in spirituality haha. And I couldn't care in the slightest how your day is, and the feeling is no doubt mutual, so don't say it to make your argument look better.

[@amitp2]

@aDislikeBot This language usually pops up when the speaker is lost for words. And this kind of hate comes up due to realization that something is lacking within oneself. Or probably thats due to the kind of people around you when you were growing up.

[@aDislikeBot]

Rushed the comment when I just woke up. See your avoiding my point though, shows me how intelligent you really are. :)

[@nervousdog1]

:)

[@amitp2]

@aDislikeBot Why don't you provide me with some? I sent you the video as evidence. And have you looked at the video that I sent? Have you tried to explore the opposite point of view?

[@MagRanHo]

Is he Hindu or Buddhist? The meditation made me think Buddhist, but then comes the Divine.

[@daboodeef179]

there is an OVERALL plan, however, we as humans do have the ability to change. Most of the suffering on this planet is self-brought on because we are at an extremely low level of consciousness. God gave us free-will. we can create this planet to be a paradise or a living hell. the reason why there is suffering is because God is trying to wake us up, but very few really listen.

[@KeithsTVHD1]

There is no god!

[@mariusscheijgrond9061]

itiso,isendit?

[@antigen4]

it's called 'GREED' people.

[@aDislikeBot]

@amitp2 So you haven't looked at any of the opposing evidence then?

[@naaggs]

No answer to the question raised. Simple answer if I don't know has tremendous potential :). I guess what he preaches he doesn't follow.

[@andreasdm8193]

The world is perfect.People are not

[@KeithsTVHD1]

The suffering that's going on in the world is natural and there is no such thing as a god and there is no divine plan.

[@oscartorres410]

just dont like his phrase,-- If we were not here the would be perfect--- nothing is perfect, thats why the life evolves.It grows. We are screwing up big so we are going to learn big things.

[@pegasus6724]

yes there is a divine plan and the reason there is a divine plan is because of this when God was self creating God had to learn from all aspects of himself including Darkness God created Darkness God was born love and light but created Darkness and fruit Darkness better understood himself he created a polarity between Darkness and light and God better appreciated his light the same with us we are God's children we are created as angels in heaven and we incarnate on to the Earth in two physical bodies where we have to learn the same polarity between Darkness and light we cannot do this in heaven because god does not want Darkness in heaven so we had to come to the earth to learn from Darkness so there is a divine plan so all of our lives are government controlled by God and the angels for a higher learning it is all in preparation for eternal life in heaven in happiness

[@holistichealthlifewellness2182]

And so it is

[@hypothetically1337]

My only real point was that if you believe in science so confidently, you must not understand the fact that you're just assuming what someone else is saying is true!!! That's it! Everything else was just a response to you taking what I've said out of context!

[@amitp2]

@aDislikeBot How did my statement become the "dumbest" statement unless you have an equally staunch perspective of global warming? So, if you think about it, whether global warming is a truth or a boogie man depends on the "facts" that one knows. Please see the video from Royal Society of London scientists for the facts that I know & believe v=hpWa7VW-OME

[@CzechRiot]

too many words... too many words with too bland meanings in our society. we take words for granted without even know what it means. What is the meaning of "perfect"? The origin of the word means something that is finished, done. Then it probably evolved, meaning you keep doing whatever until you reach a specific result. Once you have the aimed result, then it is perfect. But now perfection is somewhat a synonym with bliss. "Perfection" is now a lack of suffering, utopia, paradise.

[@biggmoneyme]

the govt has become our high priest

[@biggmoneyme]

and of course culture has belief system, even if that happens to be disbelief. still rooted in uncertainty, still a projection of your imagination-despite of how "intellectual" it makes you feel. we won't agree on the ancient sciences. you have your beleif and i have my experiences. changing your mind is of no real existential value, not to say i could even do it but why try ya know?

[@aDislikeBot]

@amitp2 Your beliefs are based on that promotional biased video that censors all types of feedback? You need to research it alot more. Why is it that you don't want to believe it?

[@hypothetically1337]

There you go assuming again... We're not doing battle with you, we're just trying to help you understand something all the while you're trying to make it difficult. I never said that I "refuse" to believe anything.. I have my own belief systems just like everybody else. I was just pointing out how accepting so called, "scientific truths" are just assuming in someone else or in you. Which of course would have contradicted your previous point. So relax your tensions mate

[@aDislikeBot]

"Priests" have absolutely nothing to do with it..

[@k.jaspers3967]

it is called samsara, the world of illusion in which there is suffering. It's this illusion which you should overcome by Yoga, so i have no idea what Sadhguru is actually trying to achieve with this talk, other than affirming the illusion of sorrow and the illusion of duality. Those other mystics he talks about understood, and he is just putting them down.

[@hypothetically1337]

WHAT?????? I have addressed every freaking word you've UNINTELLIGIBLY written!! The fact that you couldn't specify which point of yours I've "avoided" means you're out of ammo and have resorted to a desperate, unclear point that I cannot argue. So let me clarify...

[@SKF358]

Enormous suffering like that intro music?

[@amitp2]

@IIHOGZBREATHII And to have conversation with me requires intelligence and may I add "some courage" as well. Hiding by not replying!!! A true liberal environmentalist. And about Sadguru...If you didn't hear it correctly, play the video again. Doesn't he say that life cannot be perfect unless man (or mankind) disappears from earth? Why does he say so? And yes, it requires an open mind and objective thinking. Not thinking that comes by twisting words. Try looking into yourself first.

[@hypothetically1337]

Accepting "scientific" truths are just assuming what someone else said is true(unless of course you worked through the scientific method yourself, which would be your experience). That is quite child like. AND he/she never said they believe in the analogous "high priest" which you have accused them of, you mistook the context. Way to go biggmoneyme

[@amitp2]

@aDislikeBot I believe in spirituality and awareness. If that encompasses God, I have no problem with it. You seem to me a typical angry, self-hating atheist who is seeking all solutions outside rather than within.

[@SukhpreetBal]

and who killed the child,,,,karma in him...then child will born and do again..and then they will do again??

[@aDislikeBot]

@JonathanAFuentes Science, which determines what is fact, has found no evidence at all for spirituality, therefore i'm inclined not to believe it. Kind of sad that you think it does exist, but whatever.

[@amitkarmakar2557]

A DAYASAGAR

[@aDislikeBot]

I havn't contradicted myself at all. Science is used to determine the truth, without bias, thats why me and most of the population, and even you, choose to believe it. But you choosing to create more believes based off your own delusionals is in no way similar, mate.

[@aDislikeBot]

I don't accept the truth limited to just what i've experienced, I accept scientific truths. And you seem to by implying that you have delusions, which can also be easily explained by science.

[@chanmeenachandramouli1623]

Why create a world like this by the most powerful of it all?. So much chaos even in the thinking, intellectual, spiritual worlds. Create like this & say, YES, we can get out of all of our sufferings thru this & that, say, Yoga, Meditation etc... Do not make sense to me at all. If there is a GOD, IT ought to have created a perfect world for all creations at all levels. Doesn't seem to be the case. So, your answers are not convincing, SadhGuru. MeenaC

[@aDislikeBot]

@amitp2 Whatever you say kid, bet you believe in god aswell.

[@naaggs]

So people in suffering listen you perceptions wrong so change your perception and enjoy life! !! The reality of what happened in Japan is wrong perception, suffering in Libya utterly wrong perception. Buddha declared this world is full of suffering, pl Buddha your perception is totally screwed up!!!! What an answer!

[@candacecarter4556]

Yes, if man disappears the world would be perfect! haha

[@aDislikeBot]

@amitp2 "Global warming is simply a hoax" Thats got to be the dumbest comment i've seen in a long time. Just because you don't want to believe something, doesn't mean you can label it a hoax.

[@RicoJazz]

@amitp2 haha maybe if you shut up about socialists and environmentalists and lotta other "ists" and listen you'll get what he's saying. It's crystal clear not ambiguous in any way.

[@biggmoneyme]

lol theres evidence. none of which your high priest are willing to let you see

[@amitp2]

If man disappears from earth , then existence will be perfect. What an amazing misanthropic philosophy of life!!!! I am done with this guy..............

[@freedomformind]

Amit P all the talk is to improve concious action ergo existence but you don't like a joke :)

[@aDislikeBot]

@amitp2 You believe in awareness? Congratulations... But spirituality? You've just proved you are one of these hopeful thinkers basing there beliefs on anything they want to be true. There is absolutely no evidence or any reason to think there is anything spiritual. Also self-hating? Lolwut?

[@hypothetically1337]

Not "believes and delusionals" lol are you like 12?

[@Mrs.MylaJones]

I can't stand the laughter in the audience. Not in this lesson. Sounds like stand-up comedy.

[@cynthiazarraga1444]

Tanja Grundmann Laughters better than hatefulness isn't it

[@Zainiology]

I think it’s like when you’re in his presence then you just become more joyful so any small thing will make you laugh.

[@amitp2]

@aDislikeBot Which is why I provided you the link with Royal Society of London scientists. And seems like you don't have any proof, don't you? Typical Socialist Liberal..Hmm And your language seems to have been taught by Sadguru and your lovely parents.... They must have been amazing teachers.

[@aDislikeBot]

@amitp2 Yes, I was out of words, because you are clearly just trying to be a hipster rebelling against reality.

[@austinmeredith6647]

Just a puppet

[@rubalsharma7821]

Meri suffering ka mazak Ida rha h

[@IIHOGZBREATHII]

The simple fact that we can choose makes our responsibility to be responsible for any and all that occurs on this Great planet!!! We are not up to that task as you might think. At least not at this moment in our history. Does this mean we can't be individually content with life and be bliss or, as you say, find enlightenment? Of course we can. But again, that's the smaller picture in scope of the larger scene. Every day we choose to deplete this planet of beautiful organism-that includes trees.

[@rubalsharma7821]

Toh tu Kya KR RHA h suffering k make le rha h Dusron ki

[@rubalsharma7821]

Tu aur tera do Kodi ka love

[@rubalsharma7821]

Natak my KR jyada