Is There A Secret Message In This Boards Of Canada Track?

[@philsharp758]

I listened several times, at 350 % speed and 400 % speed, having spliced the clip back to back with a clove hitch and using 1. 2566 MHZ. I keep geeting this subliminal message " Eat pizza and drink beer." Gosh these guys are clever.

[@RCAvhstape]

Funny, that message is in my head all the time. It must be the US Navy's HARP project!

[@KeystoneInvestigations]

@@RCAvhstape And here I thought the reason I eat pizza and drink beer is because of the alien implant I received! 😮

[@RCAvhstape]

@@KeystoneInvestigations why not both?

[@KeystoneInvestigations]

@@RCAvhstape Hmmm.....maybe we should get Scully and Mulder on this!

[@RCAvhstape]

@@KeystoneInvestigations And the Lone Gunmen.

[@Nlogax]

So unexpected and cool to see you take on some Boards lore on your channel. Their music is a feast of hidden messages and Easter eggs, especially Geogaddi and Tomorrow’s Harvest.

[@RayBrooks0]

This could not be more relevant to my interests

[@pangroszek3498]

Maybe 162 MHz is the second frequency for the oscilloscope in x/y mode and the result appears as an image on the oscilloscope.

[@laszlopunaflex6625]

Incredible album and artists. There's some great backmasking in 'You Could Feel The Sky".

[@FortunateSon999]

It sounds like from the final comments that they've decided to do a Beatles and make something with no meaning to drive those who look for meaning in their work mad

[@marjon1703]

A visual inspection of the 'blank' track should show if there is any data inscribed. Vinyl can store frequencies below the usual 40hz roll off with most ADCs and as such a WAV may not replicate this data. But under an optical magnifier any deviance of the physical track may show there is VLF there.

[@ScottsShots]

5:29 so weird seeing my city of Rochester, NY show up in this video. They even have some of the smaller villages!

[@Boodieman72]

Reminds me of the PMRC days where people claimed that tracks if played backwards were satanic and there were even congressional hearings on it.

[@Gappasaurus]

There were congressional hearings hidden in songs?! 😳 I knew that darn Tipper Gore couldn’t be trusted 😆

[@stillthakoolest]

Thanks for giving it a shot Lewis and covering my favorite band😊

[@simonmcowan6874]

I bet Boards of Canada are having a great giggle at the exposure they get.

[@creo_one]

This is awesome marketing strategy

[@greatestytcommentator]

Joke's on them, I discovered them 3 weeks ago.

[@spugintrntl]

I remember reading somewhere that the point of the track "Magic Window" was to round out the playtime to 66.6 minutes (specifically to mess with fanatical religious types).

[@StalinTheMan0fSteel]

Uh Oh! "Paul is dead!" LOL! ;-)

[@respectbossmon]

Not to forget that classic Rutles track, that when played in reverse supposedly played the message, "Stig is really dead. Honestly." ;p

[@jekanyika]

I always assumed Boards Of Canada were Canadian.

[@fibonacho]

Boards of Scotland are Canadian.

[@AdamSWL]

I always assumed it was for people who like Canadian timber! 😉

[@KeystoneInvestigations]

@@AdamSWL And here I thought they were people from Canada who were just bored!

[@askianvan]

The father was an earth scientist in Prince Albert sask. I suspect the prairies put the zap on a couple of scottish lads heads.

[@Gappasaurus]

I assumed it was a lumber company 😄

[@davidford3744]

There is an upload on KZbin called, "A brief history of Boards of Canada". There are a few explanations about what has been mentioned in this Video.

[@ThunderWarrior01]

The family imprint is very similar to the old “Protect And Survive” family art in the old public information campaign by the British government in 1976

[@LtKernelPanic]

One thing about the mega/kilohertz thing is that early electronics schematics used m for 1000 and mm for millions since M is the Roman numeral for 1000. On a modern schematic if you have say a 4,700 and 1,000,000 ohm resister it'll say 4.7k and 1m respectively where as older ones will say 4.7m and 1mm. That said I don't know if radfio frequencies ever used that convention but If they did something like that on their album that would be an insanely obscure reference that not many people would know about today.

[@daveh7720]

I've seen the M and MM notation used in financial documents but I don't ever think I've seen an electronic schematic with that. I'll have to look for that. I have seen old schematics with capacitors labeled as as "mmf" (micro micro farads), which we now call picofarads.

[@bugtank]

One of my favorite channels on KZbin just became even more favorite.

[@JamesAlexanderFoxhal]

Great video. As a boards of Canada fan I'm surprised you didn't give a verdict on it musically!

[@meangene408]

Best electronic album of all time. You could spend weeks seperating all the audio. So much shortwave stuff as well as other weird audio captures.

[@mistermilgauss]

Another amazing video 🎉 Thanks

[@pieter_v.h.3539]

We are trying to relax by playing music but these Canadians decided to make it a detective show 😂😂😂

[@mattparkin7224]

Scottish*

[@KeystoneInvestigations]

Well if you need a detective, you should call Nick Danger, Third Eye!

[@MrWazhead]

Boards of Canada: geniuses. Thanks for this link with them. Some of their other tracks have numbers stations-like speech on them (Aquarius).

[@Vtarngpb]

Oh man I completely forgot about BoC! Thanks for the reminder!

[@Paul-eb2cl]

Love this channel, love BOC, love s video. 🥰

[@joshbell9977]

I was the one who recommended you to Andy as someone who could get to the bottom of this mystery. Thanks for taking a crack at it. Love your channel.

[@RingwayManchester]

Thanks Josh!

[@markharpen7417]

Who knew? Very cool info and very interesting! Thank You.

[@spiritusinfinitus]

Perhaps the 1 minute and 46 seconds of silence is a cover version of the last movement of 4'33 by John Cage, published in 1952, the original of which was 1 minute and 40 seconds.

[@zaiden2becausejustzaidenisused]

the length of magic window isn't relevant; it was just to get to 6:66 on album time, its from one of the warp guys

[@fretlessfender]

If there is really something on this track, you need to get a presteen vinyl copy and play this with a good cartridge! The best you can get! Only then you will be able to extract the hidden message if there is any... Some cartridges are able to go as high as 100.000 hz but these are rare and cost a fortune...

[@kneel1]

hah BOC was always my favourite and definitely up there as one of the most influential electronic groups ever

[@whiskeyvictor5703]

BOC: Is there a secret, Illuminati connection between Boards of Canada and Blue Oyster Cult? Hmmm.... 😁

[@CaptainNotFinity]

Oh so that’s what a Magic Window is! Brilliant, I’m putting that in the book 🥂 cheers

[@doctorscoot]

To me, the "message" in the sped up track sounds like just the usual psychoacoustic hallucination that your brain makes up when confronted with such sounds, e.g. like hearing satanic "backwards masking" voices in records when played backwards. It's just your brain trying to make sense of an audio signal that it can't quite get a grip on, its not a 'natural' sound that you've heard before, it's not 'music' (pitches), so your language centres impose "meaning" on it. It would have been nice to hear the specific piece without being told what it said first, I bet if you played it to 100 people you'd get 200 different answers. I'm a big Boards of Canada fan, btw, I would never have known that some people wig out so obsessively over this stuff until this video!

[@bornach]

I heard "Laurel" oh wait! Now I'm hearing "Yanny"

[@doctorscoot]

@@bornach haha - yep

[@grahamfisher5436]

7:05 - It's almost the same as the Protect and survive Logo !

[@KohanIkin]

Huh, it does look similar! It reminded me of the etched plaque diagram of humans on Pioneer, and the golden record of sounds of earth on Voyager... but it would also make sense if the last trace of humans from their short magic window of existence is a form of the Protect And Survive logo.

[@c02c02]

it's definitely intentional

[@kaitlyn__L]

Honestly, even if you can hear some breathing sounds or radio tuning sounds at certain speeds that doesn't necessarily mean they were "hidden messages". In my own music I sometimes use slowed-down sounds of hammering, or metal objects blowing in the wind, because I think it sounds neat. If someone sped a track up sufficiently, they'd hear the original "clang! clang!" mixed-in with everything else. But that doesn't mean they'd have found some secret message or won a vague prize. As to the guy who swore he heard a faint, almost morse-code type drumbeat, I wouldn't be surprised if that was just regular RF interference. Possibly from his computer, or a digital phone, or just from the houses around him.

[@alzeNL]

very interesting as ever ! :) thanks for the video.

[@RCAvhstape]

I love BoC's music and own all their albums, but I am too lazy to search for hidden clues and Easter eggs so I just put on headphones and listen to it instead.

[@KirsiVackelin]

As a devoted Boards of Canadian, my friend Jorma says that (at least according to TennisThom) BoC has a fixation with the number 666. Jorma summed up the digits of the VHF frequency as follows: 1+5=6, 2+2+2=6 and then there is the single 6. QED, he said but I am not convinced.

[@KeystoneInvestigations]

Satanists do have a fixation with the number 666.

[@daveh7720]

@@KeystoneInvestigations Apocalyptic Christians too. I heard a radio preacher once explain how it works. "Anybody could be the Antichrist. YOU could be the Antichrist. Just assign numeric values to the letters of your name and add them up. If they don't total 666, use nicknames or add a title until you find a combination that works."

[@whiskeyvictor5703]

Perhaps the "empty track" is only intended for cats or dogs. 🤔

[@nofider1]

Thanks Lewis, Did you ever listen to Mike Oldfields Tubular Bells (Vinyl) for the accidental recording of GBR on 16Khz (audacity required). :-)

[@musicmanfelipe]

I believe he did a video on it.

[@mra]

Orange

[@charlesmacka]

sixtyten

[@2009kpc]

Yeah, that's right.

[@TheCaseyoliver]

​@@2009kpccame here to say this.

[@FOX488-q2m]

I love you!

[@fookingsog]

Thomas Bearden, R.I.P.!!!

[@BertLensch]

It looks like there could be something in the spectrogram, but then again it could just be the way the frequencies change in the track. Nine Inch Nail also hid some artwork in their albums' spectrogram, most notably in Year Zero.

[@ThePsiclone]

I think if I had put hidden stuff in something like that, I would have absolutely no comment about it. Let people find it, or not find it, think its there, or not. The fun is in the "is it or isnt it" and dies the moment the creator comments.

[@KeystoneInvestigations]

Like the Beatles!

[@daveh7720]

Video game developers hide Easter eggs in their games. But even though some gamers go looking for them in every game so they can be the first to report them on social media, they don't always find them. So after a while the developers will have to leak a hint (anonymously at times) so somebody can find one. It's great PR.

[@spacecat7247]

Love boards of canada.

[@thestatpow5]

That guy DMed me on twoism a while ago when I had posted my findings about diving station's diver sample you highlighted. Didn't waste my time with it. I think he's loopy and obsessed with something he probably misheard over a decade ago. We have a lot of idiots on the forum I wouldn't trust a single one of them including me to start a goose chase. Pointless.

[@RoadRunnerMeep]

I'm working on couple things based on the 162.225 frequency produces some weird result Changing the speed to 162.225% speed produces some weird results, and also the pitch to this amounmt. Also regarding the track, rather than change it to 2.3 seconds, changing each half of the track to 1.62225 seconds

[@robertmeyer4744]

Nice work ! either way if a hidden msg or not. This is a big win for the record label in sales . people will buy just for hidden message

[@IanVanCamp]

Too far between releases for this genius music project.

[@dezeekat]

i been listening to BoC for 25 years and now am dead

[@CrvrMb]

Orange!

[@wisteela]

I'll have to get this album. I've been planning to put stuff in my music. Morse code, RTTY, SSTV.

[@paulsengupta971]

The Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em theme. The Inspector Morse theme.

[@namelesswon]

The art work the artwork suggests you need to turn your sound to physical or visual form. Perhaps there is a cymatic solution?

[@KeystoneInvestigations]

And if you play it backwards you can hear "Turn me on dead man" ! (Beatles reference)

[@benrr101]

I slowed down this video's audio to 15% then inverted it, and sped it back up by 75% and I didn't hear a damn thing.

[@jonnyiles4665]

Is it the 1.6 gigs from skinwalker ranch? 😳🥴

[@kensmith5694]

If you factor it, you will find some 10s, some 9s and 103 in the factors. Those who know the band might find a meaning in the factors.

[@jaffa7290]

ROGBIV Is one. of the greatest songs ever written

[@2009kpc]

Olson and Macquarie Ridge for me

[@MidnightVisions]

Checked the Canadian radio database and 162.225 has not been used for any purpose

[@sparkyprojects]

It's one way to boost sales i guess, everyone loves a nystery 🤣

[@KeystoneInvestigations]

Better to boost sales by making good music!

[@thomassecurename3152]

The bard said ‘Much to do about nothing’.

[@misterbacon4933]

Very funny is this episode!👌

[@joinedupjon]

Well misprints on record sleeves can make it through... The early copies of 'real new fall LP' in 2003 had the tracks printed in the wrong order on the CD insert. Probably many more examples of this happening. But the human mind finds it very easy to agree with a supplied set of printed lyrics while listening to backwarda audio gibberish. It's a bit like that thing where you try to say the name of the colour thats been used to print the letters making up the name of a different colour.

[@TheRisenPeopleEire]

Sublime

[@rueme4228]

What’s the outro music you used?

[@robpegs]

It's obvious. It's hidden directions to the flux capacitor

[@rog2224]

I think you overrate proof checking - Paul Hardcastle's single "Just for Money" managed to misspell Laurence Olivier's name as "Lawrence" for a couple of pressings.

[@napalmholocaust9093]

Is the B-side pattern on the shellac singles made my Victor anything? I know it isn't meant to be played from a needle. Might correspond to a tone or something.

[@napalmholocaust9093]

I have one. Might be Bing Crosby.

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

Has anyone just tried asking the members of the band? 😉

[@snownestling]

Doesn’t work with them.

[@c02c02]

no shot

[@brendandevlin6328]

Everybody hertz!

[@KeystoneInvestigations]

And if you hurt a lot it is megahertz!

[@burning4902]

How about a video on the human body as antenna and what capacity/capability exists to manipulate same

[@TheElectronicDilettante]

Should give ChatGPT 4o a go at it. Might be a creepy….

[@maralisil]

British Nuclear PR and US CONELRAD?

[@cyberferry]

22 Years since release the community still sifting through sand😂, the uncertainty of a new album after 11 years have become unbearable😢

[@hvcomputech]

Redrum redrum

[@olafelsberry420]

162.550 MHz is a NOAA radio station. NOAA pronounced Noah.

[@marcus1503]

Looks very similar, to the protect and survive logo of the 80s, but you would have to flip it to make it more accurate but nonetheless it stands out very similar. The frequency./ is it a date ..? When I added the numbers together I got 18 = 1 A 8 = H I won’t say any more on that. Or is it a code from like a number station Like word 1 or line one then line 6 or 6th word. You would need to work out which text on the record it could be from. Just stop looking at it as a frequency., is it a date? Is a time., do you need to add a tone? Or do something at that frequency to find something else else on the record. Is there a way of playing record at that frequency?, Or is it a message that frequency on the record?. I would no idea how to do this.

[@bornach]

@@marcus1503 Did you try working out the wavelength (in millimeters) of the radio waves of that frequency in a vacuum? The number is nearly exact and gives you interesting results when you look up the 4 digit number as if it were a year.

[@marcus1503]

@@bornach Has it am / have dyslexia I’m fine math so I have 1848.004 so i been looking at 01/08/1948 has a date of events and people born etc I could be looking too much into it, to support me to some event or something that gives the answer, and then anything to do with a window, and silent track. Interestingly. Use it as a date format, in a conversion and it seems to talk about events happening and Israel, but I cannot see anything significant that jumps out at me. I could be looking for too deeply into it.

[@lauxmyth]

Interesting file manipulation. Almost an advert for LSD or the like.

[@MM0IMC]

It's all a bit woo woo!🙄

[@oldshep2695]

what was that film, erm. Longditude and latitude . Anyone ??

[@thiesenf]

Confirmation biasing... ie you hear what you want to hear...

[@xszl]

The Beatles have much clearer hidden messages.

[@WayneMetcalf]

162.225Mhz is the frequency of the NOAA weather satellites.

[@KeystoneInvestigations]

Negative. NOAA frequencies start at 162.4 and ends at 162.55

[@RingwayManchester]

No it isn’t

[@WayneMetcalf]

Damn. It's definitely a familiar frequency for some reason, I just can't put my finger on it.

[@KeystoneInvestigations]

I misread. NOAA WX sats are in the 137 mHz range. The land based NOAA freqs are between 162.4 and 162.55 mHz.

[@bornach]

Calculate the wavelength of electromagnetic radiation in a vacuum. It is nearly exact to the mm. 1848 interpreted as a year is quite notable in European history.

[@TheVicar]

Has anyone tried asking them?

[@KeystoneInvestigations]

It's classified. They can tell you but then they would have to kill you!

[@willdive6770]

Maybe Andy and the others were smoking a little too much.

[@rogerb5615]

Maybe all y'all that bought the vinyl were just punked to the tune of $10 by two clever musicians.

[@marcustoups4228]

“Drink more Ovaltine”

[@richardmillican7733]

How bizarre

[@David0lyle]

Welcome to the most frustrating aspect of cryptography. The need to check “solvability” . 😕 It’s a real issue with “chain cypher” systems is the first part of the message is used to encode the remainder of the message. A typo or mistake in the first part of the message can turn the rest of the message into gibberish. 😕 The only real method would be to have the original sender examine the message on the production materials and check that the messages actually CAN be decoded. It’s quite possible that due to mistakes in the manufacturing or post production process the message was reduced to nonsense.

[@danieIlondon]

You sure you don’t work in GCHQ lol?

[@dennisfahey2379]

Can the data be transcoded to a different bitrate? Music is Math afterall. The CD is of no value because - being digital - it already has been processed at 44.1khz and anything outside that digitization is lost. The vinyl is pure analog. It has full fidelity. So perhaps the data there sampled at a higher bit rate could result in a numeric pattern that has some meaning.

[@CampfireHeadphase]

Uuh

[@SubPablum]

All that said, misprints do happen. Probably not here, fine. One I have, for example, is a Bob Dylan record with the label of a different record pressed on it. Oops.

[@nonsequitor]

"Boards of Canada"???😂 outstanding. What % of humans alive at this point get that reference/ripoff ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@EJohnDanton]

Not sure it's a Rip-off. Its because as kids they were in Canada and like every Canadian kid (me included), they had to watch films from the National Film Board of Canada. Or is there something more to it?

[@spacetrucker2196]

you can listen to this album backwards too and it's still a decent album

[@BennyBsolo]

"Cocaine ..... it's a hell of a drug"

[@Ncfc-ek8il]

God...they sound a barrel of laughs....can't wait to get the CD 🥱🥱

[@xbrico]

On your radio frequencies @ 4:54, you show 166.225MHz, not 162.225MHz - 162.225MHz seems to be Radiocomm Systems Ltd., Maze Hill Railway Station