Is there ANY hope for game streaming? We tried them all.

[@keco185]

We need a blind test with people from the office deciding if streaming or local playing feels more responsive (obviously at same settings)

[@JL-yl8gd]

keco185 good call, I would totally trust Dwights opinion. That man has no filters he would speak the truth.

[@jintsuubest9331]

On garbage internet.

[@JL-yl8gd]

Jintsuu Best good point, not many homes with the pipe that LMG has

[@good2die223]

Linus please ask nvidia to add an option to pay with paysafecard. Please.

[@SuperMatthew128]

@@JL-yl8gd Maybe Jim or Andy would also be nice people to use on the test. Andy will always say that it is nice, but Jim will be the balanced person and will do a good analysis.

[@kenzieduckmoo]

Linus: "All these game streaming services work great on 10 gig internet"

[@Honeydwarf85]

Exactly, I only had 250kb/s internet until this Christmas when I got 7mb/s. It's lightning fast by comparison and that's nowhere near enough to stream games.

[@celchronicles]

@@Honeydwarf85 7mb/s should be enough? edit: If it's means 7MB/s, of cause. mb/s usually refers to 7MiB/s, but if what op meant was 7Mbps, yeah it's not enough.

[@jbroad8194]

@@celchronicles HA! Nowhere near enough. Especially if you want to do anything with fancier graphics or fps

[@Zyhmet]

@@celchronicles I think you mistake Mb/s for MB/s the mb/s the poster mentioned are megabit/s. And I can see that 7 are not great. Until a few weeks ago I had 8 mb/s and 1080p youtube at 30FPS was possible... but 60HZ wasnt. So thats already... problematic for gaming if everything else works great.

[@celchronicles]

@@jbroad8194 hummm kinda sad I cannot test it out... I've got ~90mbps(~11MB/s) at home, but well, clearly Australia is not somewhere you would get access to this kind of yet niche tech...

[@frankwoodson3838]

Linus: "I think 6 hours is a reasonable length of time to be gaming at once" those are rookie numbers

[@johndoublew3060]

You gotta pump those numbers up

[@LuizAlexPhoenix]

When we reach the goal, we double the goal!

[@maximusfantabulous2559]

Nah, 2 hours

[@girtubogdan7139]

@@maximusfantabulous2559 guess your mom doesnt let you game..

[@Fiko_Reborn]

@@girtubogdan7139 I really don't have for more than two hours at a time either. Some of us just don't have that kind of time. (Wife kids and job)

[@HarperLylia]

I really hope you do a re-review soon. Almost all of these platforms saw some big updates to latency/performance since this video was released.

[@jonathanppanda]

Indeed. Watched this and was about to buy GFN, until I saw how many games had been pulled from it.

[@kermitthefroak8763]

Hope he adds shadow to the list as well, it’s a really solid service.

[@hisakiyo0001]

@@kermitthefroak8763 6 month of delivery time in Europe :))

[@kermitthefroak8763]

Hisakiyo that’s really unfortunate, took mine about a week

[@TheMelonFarmers123]

Yeah me too. Especially with the announcement of xcloud playability in browser sometime in spring. I’m a Mac household with Mac mini’s under the 2 big TVs, so I’m counting down the days for that. Thinking about getting a cheap windows mini pc to have dedicated apps for ps now and the future xcloud or Xbox app update, but as of now, I’m just finishing up cyberpunk and the tomb raider series on stadia with little to no complaints.

[@R3FR4CT10N_]

“Destiny 2 was included in this bundle” Destiny 2 (w/out DLCs) is free

[@Jambroni_1]

Big brain time...

[@thatrealba]

It can be free and not included in the bundle or free and included in the bundle. So what?

[@R3FR4CT10N_]

@@thatrealba yeah, it's just the way its presented as "oh hey, we dont have to pay for this game cos it's in the bundle"

[@thatrealba]

@@R3FR4CT10N_ ok

[@KeenScout.]

Destiny on stadia has a bad rep amongst the community

[@wilddog9]

8:20 That's funny, my grandpa used to say the same thing all the time about the people in his town

[@phong4396]

XD

[@zombies956]

🙄😂

[@arthurwaring]

😳😳

[@philippossnortis2035]

lmao

[@Rufiothelost]

Hahahah

[@sayandipdhali8343]

"I play Halo with a dualshock" *Microsoft has left the chat*

[@humancalculator]

Sayandip Dhali pretty sure Microsoft allowed DualShock support.

[@Suddhadeep]

@@humancalculator On PC, not on Xbox

[@HastelloyC276]

The service is still being used doe

[@sayandipdhali8343]

@XBOXRULES 🤔🤨😏

[@sayandipdhali8343]

@XBOXRULES I have a pc.... WITH 2 GIGS OF RAM 😓

[@RealPeopleShorts]

"If google doesn't CUT this program like they do all their other ones." Stadia's internal studios: ight imma head out

[@breadaru545]

I was literally going to comment this haha

[@FrogmanLeaps]

True but no one wants Google exclusives. We want the games that are already out to kick up their library.

[@AzmiMaulanaHamdani]

Why they cut stadia like that it's not even a year products

[@artos0131]

Linus, you jinxed it!

[@SilenceStabber]

Google announced new exclusive yesterday

[@jamievlong]

Didn’t know “Playstation 1” controllers were supported for Nvidia Shield. Talk about backwards compatibility. EDIT: thanks guys for the heads up. really losing sleep whether an actual PS1 controller works with the nvidia shield. I really should have put ":p" in there somewhere. ALSO, they didn't mention Shadow PC. Shadow is king of cloud gaming. Its not just a program like Steam or Stadia where you can only play games. It is literally a Windows 10 gaming PC on any device. You don't dont need to re-purchase any games. If you had games on Steam, Blizzard, Uplay, or Epic, you just re-download those programs and re-install your library like normal. There are multiple tiers too. The 1st tier can do 4K @ 60fps, 1440 @ 120fps, and 1080 @ 144fps. Thanks for coming to my tedtalk

[@RahulKhandelwal678]

PlayStation "one" not the number 1

[@MarksterC]

lol he meant a playstation controller, probably meaning DS4

[@ShakeItJordie1987]

PlayStation "one" not the number 1 2 Markster Markster 8 hours ago lol he meant a playstation controller, probably meaning DS4 2

[@HadezLord]

@@ShakeItJordie1987 Thanks for that

[@IvanPlayStation4LiFe]

PS1 Mini

[@lalabm_twitch]

Linus: "I think 6 hours is a reasonable length of time to be gaming at once" Me: *nervous laughter*

[@youtubeminute4388]

I use the 1 hour limit as a heads up that I should take a break

[@KiraSlith]

To be fair, if you're the type of person deep enough in the hobby to be playing more than that, you probably also have the dosh for a good enough rig that you wouldn't need it in the first place. (And if you don't yet, that's on you for not putting aside some game time to instead dig up some good deals on older parts.)

[@LordHogWaterer]

Kira Slith I would play for hours and hours with bathroom and meal breaks but that’s it until my eyes are so strained or I’m tired

[@goreobsessed2308]

I only quit gaming once I pass out

[@ultralink17]

@@KiraSlith I would've had a new pc by now since I earned over $20K in the last 5 months, but it was the first time I actually had money to call my own so I got sucked into my impulsive buying so now I only have $800 rn lol. Ik I can get a decent pc with that, but I want to do game design as well so I want the newer amd cpu and nvidia gpu. So I'm looking around $3700. It's a possible budget for me, I just have to be patient instead of blowing away my money again lol.

[@ragilmalik]

James is hands down the best co-host in LTT. He's always fishing for the host opinion, whoever the host might be.

[@visualmars]

I still remember when they called him the new hire... How far things have come.

[@alejandrocastro2394]

I mean, that is the objetive of any company

[@GoodGamer3000]

@SadlyItsMaple, no.

[@blackrippin]

He got a ton of hate when he first started, really come into his own

[@ihateallofu8233]

Ever since Linu's roast, James has won my patience with him.

[@MCMoody_]

Just realise that even the slightest latency can rip all the joy out of playing an online game because you will have the feeling that you have a constant lag or delay in your actions

[@FRIENDWITHFIRE]

yea try making beats on a bluetooth speaker

[@Cronofear]

Yeah, this is why i don't get too excited with the cloud gaming hype. However, i would like to see services offering cloud windows where we can use GPU demanding applications (video editors, 3d modelling, game engines, etc).

[@OleKristianFjelltun-Larsen]

Playing Sniper Elite 4 om Stadia (PC - Chrome Browser - 5ghz wifi). Doing pretty well (I think) and having fun.. Never thinking of latency/lag. Live stream in my channel..

[@vmaykel]

My PC keeps crashing for no reason due to some issues between windows and my GPU... I'm tired of crashes, patches and no reason to say buying a new gaming pc is fckng expensive!

[@haseenabadshah5381]

69 likes lmao

[@rondelapena6024]

I love how James treats Linus like such a Boomer James: *shows remote control* Ya know what this is?

[@comedyxd4466]

I think they did this to set up today’s video

[@BLINDCABBY]

Ron Dela Pena I love when you say boomer . I imagine you saying it out loud repeating it until you run completely out of breath and pass out .

[@rondelapena6024]

@@BLINDCABBY yes it's especially hilarious to see triggered boomers on the internet after using "millienials" as an insult for so long

[@BLINDCABBY]

Ron Dela Pena I’m on the cusp. I suppose I’m an elder millennial. It’s all bs just enjoy yourself. As you were, you already know. Peace

[@ZyroAniCapped]

@@BLINDCABBYOk Boomer

[@Wilper96]

When I used Geforce Now on my phone playing on lunch breaks I thought it worked pretty damn well. It's sad that publishers and developers keeps removing games from it though.

[@lollol9236]

Tested AC Odyssey today, ran amazingly! And my wifi is "only" about 30Mbps.

[@Inscydeus]

Was seriously considering buying a membership, glad I saw this first. 👍

[@Silvachenko]

I live in Brazil, which is not a country supported by GeForce now, and it is insane that I am playing on a server 5000 km away from my home and there is no high latency or packet loss even playing on fullHD

[@SomeoneTookMyOldName]

It works for apex until origin servers die

[@Rooster832]

I've been using Xcloud at work with no lag or latency issues what so ever and it's nice being able to play day one games.

[@PrimeRsoul]

Average family home: "Everyone go offline! I wanna play a game!"

[@GCAmazingBR]

Change the password, say the ISP is on maintenance and lock your room

[@Anankin12]

Well, it depends where you live. I can play GeForce Now @1080/60/competitive while my sister watches YT or Netflix @1080, but just barely. But gigabit is a phone call away with no extra cost if I can convince my father to do it

[@PrimeRsoul]

@@Anankin12 Yeah, faster internet is a phone call away too for me. Requires putting fiber in the ground for a few blocks. Will cost me around $32,000 (if I can convince a few neighbors). And then around $120 a month. I'm leaning towards gaming "the traditional way".

[@Anankin12]

@@PrimeRsoul By "a phone call away" I mean that it will be something like 50 to 120 euro to install and then nothing extra since my plan already includes it. 25.90€/month

[@PrimeRsoul]

@@Anankin12 Yes, I kinda understood. I just wanted to share a little bit of useless information about my situation. I'm still gonna stick with local gaming though. Completely underwhelmed with streaming gaming. Plus, I barely game to begin with.

[@BunLikesChaos]

A revisiting of video game streaming platforms would actually make for a very compelling video considering Xbox Cloud Gaming is available everywhere, Google Stadia has changed their business model, Amazon has introduced their own and all of these services have gotten better about latency, not to mention the fact that graphics cards and current generation video game consoles are pretty hard to come by even still.

[@sigy4ever]

0:44 When you accidently offend your employee so much that its now personal

[@Rabolisk]

Cut to the sponsor so that they don't argue on air!

[@HelenGPitts]

Previous month I was able to gather my first five figure paycheck ever!!! I've been working for this company on-line for 2 yrs now and I never been happier... They are paying me $95 per hour, and the most important thing regarding it is that I am not that tech-savvy, they just required standard knowledge of internet and elementary typing skill...Amazing thing about this work is that now I have more time to spend with my family. I am in a position to dedicate quality time with my family and friends and take care of my babies and also going on family holiday with them very consistently. Don't ignore this chance and make sure to react quick. Check it out, what it is about... *grab26­.­c­o­m*

[@CommanderTato]

@@HelenGPitts wat the fuk bro

[@LyamWitherow]

Awesome, now do an ultimate showdown: Local gaming vs LAN (streaming from your home computer) vs WAN gaming (cloud gaming) Separate it into 3 categories: Test 1: In the home Test 2: At the office Test 3: At a hotel further away in another province or country Some services that otherwise would have been terrible might be better in Test 3.

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

When xcloud fully launches that would make sense. Microsoft are pushing their data centre stuff quite hard so I don't see them dropping it really. Be nice if it ends up bundled with Xbox games pass ultimate.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Good idea. I would watch it. (:

[@aspiepower2419]

Nintendo Switch for Test 2 and 3.

[@haydencarlson2861]

And include PlayStation remote play

[@S0vietOni0n]

in a blind test to see if people can really tell the difference

[@ujiltromm7358]

"I think 6 hours would be a reasonable time" _You have been playing for an hour. Remember to take a break from time to time._

[@nyx1on545]

Warframe

[@zenu903]

NINJAS PLAY FREE!!

[@motryx466]

This guy knows.

[@DarkDemonXR]

@fuck feminism Had times where I ended with 8 of those messages on Warframe's chat XD

[@doobasaurus]

I used to play Warframe like 4 hours non stop lol

[@rehaansurendren6179]

9:53 aged well lmao

[@algernopkrieger138]

"If a headline ends with a question mark, the answer is always no".

[@ViggoMor10sen]

@@klaxoncow it's a paraphrase of Betteridge's law of headlines .

[@tj71520]

@@apierror for the future of gaming I really hope this cloud gaming dies off soon

[@Dorraj]

The headline has a question mark because LTT is a clickbait machine.

[@finraziel]

Well this video already proves you wrong because all, except maybe Stadia, actually looked pretty good. Not that I'd want to use them myself, but I'm not the target audience...

[@lawrencedoliveiro9104]

How about “Does Betteridge’s Law Of Headlines Apply To This Headline?”

[@MinistrOfJustiz]

15:08 Totally missed opportunity to say "720p-ness."

[@mlgdarrgames]

Pness

[@Selaphane]

The fact that I was able to play The Last of Us on my PC like 5 years ago on PSNow (did not own a Playstation console) with a free trial makes it the ultimate winner in my book, that's one gaming experience I'll never forget.

[@DartLuke]

The fact that i can't use PSnow in my country without vpn makes it ultimate looser for me

[@roelinevs]

@@DartLuke -Same! Also we can't use the other game streaming too.

[@eferrari96]

@@DartLuke PS Now will soon start to launch in couple of countries.

[@Howling_Moon]

Xcloud is the future

[@rudymedina4508]

It depends what you wana play. Xcloud is xbox exclusives and psnow is playstation, and geforce pc games.

[@stickfightanime2675]

6:15 That priceless expression on linus face when prompted about RTX ON... It just summed up everything about the RTX hype in just one facial expression!! well done Linus :-)

[@darkphan5212]

ha ha good. and bad

[@Rooster832]

RTX is actually really impressive the problem is that it tanks the frame rate but hopefully with good DLSS we can have both RT and high fr.

[@stickfightanime2675]

@@Rooster832 You are replying to a 5 month old comment I made when there were 2 games with RTX and the shitty 20xx line of cards

[@Raskov1945]

@@stickfightanime2675 you think the 20 cards were shitty? Lmao

[@bruhdabones]

I played GeForce One for months on a bad connection. It was so impressive, I’m glad they kept it beta for a long time to perfect it.

[@Bruce-ev7pn]

What was the bandwidth?

[@bruhdabones]

Bruce it was a school connection... shared and spotty. Measuring it just shows best possible ratings anyway

[@HollyHummingbirdriver]

Bob dabiuld I only have it to play planet zoo

[@Djinnie0o0]

It only seems to work properly in the US so it's a shitty service if it only works properly in the US. +100mbps connection here and it's blocky as fuck

[@bruhdabones]

Djinn! That’s a shame. Idk where you live but they must not have enough customers near you to have closer servers.

[@ect4093]

Oh, that moment at 3:15 "All the files are going now boys! Cache, cache, cache". I have played it back more times than fingers on one hand. It his hilarious rofl

[@raviolimaster]

"Would you really reccomend using a service, where, you dont have any games. And then when you buy a bunch of games, you still don't have any games??"

[@joaquin5929]

haha cool quote from the video you are very smart 😂😂

[@raviolimaster]

@@joaquin5929 what you mean quote? i'm the originator of that sentence, Linus reached out to me on fiver and asked me to come up with something witty to say and, that's what i came up with. Actually Linus and I kick it from time to time, you know, play a little golf here and there. our families are having "Quarenteaster" later on tonight via the videyaphone. but yeah He gets almost all of his jokes from me.

[@Dxntoo]

@@raviolimaster lmao

[@johnt3844]

Right, lol! Cause I own my games on steam...wait licensing agreements Well, I own my games on console...dang licensing agreements Well, Stadia sucks.... .. .

[@MrOldham101]

I don't understand this point. Unless you buy a disk you never physically own your games no matter the platform. If steam went bankrupt tomorrow, guess where all your games would go. If Xbox went bankrupt tomorrow, guess where all your digital games would go. Baring in mind Google makes more money than both those example companies, it is the least likely to go bankrupt. I get why people would make the point about Google's history of cancelled projects and products but this is also totally invalid. Microsoft likely has just as many cancelled projects that they are just not as transparent as Google about, every company does. But if you look at the actual stats and feedback from current players instead of the loud minority of PC gamers that have never actually tried it, stadia is a hit for Google. It has already grown a massive player base for the time it's been out despite the lack of games and it is already making them a ton of money. Could you imagine the legal ramifications if they all of a sudden decided to take products people have paid for away from them. Personally, I think stadia is hands down better than every other console on the market. I would rather have the occasional frame skip in my game than spending hours waiting for games to update, having to delete old games to make space for new ones and sit through ridiculously long loading screens. I already have more playable games on stadia than I do on my PS4 purely because my PS4 can only really store around 10 games on it before you have to start deleting things. EVERY GAME I HAVE BOUGHT ON STADIA IS ALWAYS THERE, ALWAYS UP TO DATE AND WILL ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE AND UP TO DATE WHENEVER AND WHEREVER I WANT TO PLAY THEM.

[@jonathancarlson7659]

I think we are missing the big picture here. I am now able to play high-end games on a 12-year old Linux box with no graphics card. This tech essentially turns ANY rusty old machine into a gaming rig! So what if the experience is not flawless?

[@zzzzzz-rn3oh]

You enjoy flaws?

[@GlorifiedGremlin]

Heh, big picture

[@johnathanbriscoe5448]

@@zzzzzz-rn3oh well linux isnt a gaming machine compared to windows and windows keys cost monies so most that dont wanna pay use linux. And either way most problems will game streaming have improved GREATLY shadow pc is a whole pc gfn is pretty good in terms of games. And latency is non existant (depending on system and internet) and we dont talk about stadia. And we wont.

[@HopeX9]

In France, we have a thing that's a bit different but work for games. "Shadow" from a compagny called Blade. This is a Cloud Computer and run pretty well.

[@angristan]

Shadow is far batter than the competition!

[@JohnDoe-ef3xe]

Yeah, would have hoped they would have looked at Shadow. I tried all the service and Shadow is the best package imho

[@ItsIcha]

Not just for France, its global, I use it in the US

[@Luckysquirrel1256]

Pretty sure they have already checked out Shadow before kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnO0ZZWOg8l4h6s

[@cvl2955]

John Doe it’s actually a bit strange they didn’t include Shadow because they’ve done a couple vids on it in the past.

[@edragyz8596]

Destiny's HDR Blackpoint is bugged, so doing any Blackpoint calibration effectively ruins your image. This is a known bug and Bungie will be fixing it in the coming weeks. Whitepoint is ok though.

[@Falcodrin]

Wow that's racist /s

[@meloD30]

I'm on board if they integrate the google assistant into stadia. "okay google, complete this level."

[@bearpuns5910]

"Okay Google, press F"

[@wrainerr]

meloD30 “Okay Google, press ALT and F4 at the same time please.”

[@rockzs74r]

Considering how laggy it is. Maybe it takes a week to complete a single checkpoint

[@Fabian-_-]

@@rockzs74r it's not even a bit laggy. I know, it has a bad reputation, but it definetely is not laggy. Source: I own it and I really don't have anything near Gigabit internet and it works flawlessly

[@pantallahueso]

I think that's the plan, you'll be able to ask the Google Assistant questions about the game you're playing. That said, Stadia is still very unfinished (it's a mystery why they don't just add a "beta" tag), so it'll be some time before it actually becomes ultra amazing.

[@EyesOfByes]

0:53 IMO, this is hand down the best sponsor segue you have ever made! The transition timing comedy gold perfect! 🤣 Who ever edited this deserves a raise!

[@lolindirlink]

I've had a blast using Shadow Cloud PC. A full windows10 desktop where you can install and run anything you want. This freedom is what none of the other streaming services offer.

[@MrMW2nd]

8:10 no destiny 2s hdr is broken and blown out. I was having mega graphical issues until I turned it off

[@pyk_]

"Destiny was included" wow, google was nice enough to include a free-to-play game for FREE?

[@r2d2292]

I don't think it was when it was announced; it has only been since December

[@jessenorris6499]

it gives the dlc with it, not just the base game.

[@pyk_]

@@jessenorris6499 Ah, thanks.

[@Trainzer_]

It was part of the promotion when destiny 2 is going free. Bungie is wanting to get players to play and stadia was a way to do that.

[@pyk_]

@@Trainzer_ I keep reading your comment and I don't understand. Making Destiny free to play was an attempt to increase the size of the player base, I agree with that. I would be a bit surprised if Google didn't pay Bungie anything to allow them to give away the paid portions of the game, but it is possible.

[@GamestarZyt]

Me: those graphics are great Ltt: that looks soo 1080p can’t you do more

[@morgan1168]

Linus: "How do I throw a grenade?"......Proceeds to drop it, Yup that's our Linus.

[@kacpermalinowski8215]

If there's one thing you can expect from Linus, it's dropping stuff

[@dumpsterdawg]

James smells fine to me .....oh wait that was just the latency...."PHEW...my eyes are watering"

[@Revzk]

Linus just used XCloud with a Playstation controller and Playstation Now with a Xbox controller? We did it, console wars is no more

[@SuperCartoonist]

But streaming services wars will begin.

[@oprime]

With cloud gaming, that would sadly become true as people would use whatever bluetooth controller that they feel comfortable with on any streaming service. :)

[@SuperCartoonist]

@@oprime Cloud gaming is the new DRM.

[@MrbdWzrdOjos]

"If Google doesn't cut this program..." That aged poorly

[@johnj8639]

You can change the settings to what ever you want on GeForce now, disabling v-sync helps lower latency a lot, also you can max out the settings in all modern games and still get over 60fps most the time.

[@nekogod]

Geforce now is actually really nice, I had some minor issues with Subnautica but all the other games I've tried have worked really well with minimal input lag and decent image quality. I do have decent internet and I am fairly close to one of the EU data centres though so your mileage may vary. I just wish devs would stop pulling games from it there really is little to no reason to and they're cutting off potential customers who don't have PCs powerful enough for the devs game, but might consider buying it they can play it on a remote machine.

[@Notsram77]

I've had great results with Blade Shadow. On their VM, my videos were rendering in minutes instead of hours. Man... my life has gone downhill since I moved to a slow internet area.

[@grumpfou]

Shadow is a pretty good "cloud gaming" plateform. Too bad they missed it.

[@PaletoB]

With 1 / 3 of the worlds population staying home and streaming, leaving me with 1Mbit/s max speed for a entire household..... I dont think this is a viable option haha

[@quoththeraven5631]

@@grumpfou Shadow is amazing

[@frankmann497]

Looking for a new re-review. Anw, has anyone here known The Sena? The project is worth to give it a look

[@edythebrakus546]

I have joined their group few days ago. About to trade some coin

[@StarmanDX]

Nope, that's just how Destiny 2 HDR looks lol, awful

[@fopm008]

Looks great on Xbox One X and PC. Just looks like shit on Stadia

[@good2die223]

Linus please ask nvidia to add an option to pay with paysafecard. Please.

[@Real28]

Really? Looked amazing on my 4k tv. Granted it was only 30fps but it looked great. When I disabled HDR then I got about 100fps. Destiny 2 is one of the only games I've ever played that even on medium/low it still looks great. I remember when medium/low was trash compared to high/ultra. 8700k & 1080Ti

[@Zathren]

Almost like Destiny is an awful game haha.

[@adili9427]

@@Real28 Relaying another comment: Edragyz: "Destiny's HDR Blackpoint is bugged, so doing any Blackpoint calibration effectively ruins your image. This is a known bug and Bungie will be fixing it in the coming weeks. Whitepoint is ok though."

[@chozora]

You've got badass internet, I have bad-ass internet.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

12:28 They legitimately tried to sing the Halo theme, men of culture

[@apurbolol3793]

Ahh yes ur everywhere man

[@ashwinmoses8277]

When me and the boys are changing naked in the locker room

[@BloodAssassin]

You again

[@ashwinmoses8277]

@@thank_uforthevenom It's true bro in the Army it's the best time

[@alikebadge6]

15th

[@jamesgerber4658]

10:05 famous last words as Stadia is moved from promising new gaming experience to isn't this just flash games all over again?

[@vash2698]

A good thing to note with streaming any of these services to a phone or tablet: If you happen to be on a 2.4ghz connection, you will have a terrible experience when using bluetooth controllers. Normally bluetooth interference isn't such a big deal, but in this case it will render games unplayable.

[@ahsan.v8]

Does bluetooth interferes less with 5ghz wifi??

[@aaugh3274]

@@ahsan.v8 no, thats why microsoft specifically says to use a 5ghz network for xcloud.

[@ahsan.v8]

@@aaugh3274 well I asked whether bluetooth interferes 'less' with 5ghz than 2.4ghz

[@pablosartor6715]

@@ahsan.v8 yes

[@ahsan.v8]

@@pablosartor6715 ohk

[@zacronzer]

1:54 YES LINUS, finally he is bringing awareness to the PS1 community.

[@samael651]

That's not what he meant.

[@Root174]

@@samael651 You missed the joke.

[@marusjazierek7997]

Shadow would actually be the closest to streaming a gaming rig as it’s just streaming a plain windows 10 rig

[@Daakyne]

Linus just forgot the best one x)

[@starblaiz1986]

Literally watching this video on my Shadow and laughing at how bad all those other services are by comparison XD You can install any PC game OR PROGRAM you like on it, it's just a Windows machine that you can do any normal Windowsy things on. The app is available for Windows, Linux, Mac, Android, and coming BACK to iOS when Apple stops being annoying. shadow.tech/

[@marusjazierek7997]

@@starblaiz1986 May not have been reviewed as it's not available in Canada, I think...

[@psiFellow]

@@marusjazierek7997 shadow should have been mentioned at least. It's superior in every aspect.

[@Kburd-wr6dq]

psiFellow shadow is more expensive tho. For 4.99/mo you can get a 24gb Nvidia Tesla on GeForce now. On shadow it’s 49.99/mo for the same graphics card. Although you can do more with shadow, if you’re only doing steam/uplay/ea gaming, GeForce now is fine.

[@nextus_]

Actually weird to see GeForce now work, since every time I've tried it it's been a blurry laggy mess, but Stadia works flawlessly.

[@Nkit_1]

In my case that's the opposite

[@RavenStars]

thats the opposite for me

[@arjun6003]

@@RavenStars could be the region

[@Bellenchia]

I feel like the “snappiness” reported from certain types of movements is a product of AI driven “negative latency” we were hearing about

[@soupwizard]

Once the AI improves enough, it will predict your gaming inputs so well that you can just sit back and watch an AI version of yourself play the game.

[@notrandom2]

hhmmm.... seems kinda like "pre-quantum" computing. In that, The AI will have to compute your next movement based on the previous movement just made/did not make. You just get the ball rolling with the first step. Regarding the 2nd step and so forth, how intertwine will you be with the AI?

[@Bellenchia]

Wisakedjak Archetype I would imagine it’s really more like sequence prediction with a basic neural network. Not being intertwined with some anthropomorphic general artificial intelligence. They have that too! But I’m sure it’s weapons grade technology and not for the hashtage gamerz.

[@themodfather9382]

@@soupwizard wish I could sit back and watch an AI version of myself tell you to fuck off

[@GoldSrc_]

"negative latency" doesn't work like that, that was straight up input lag.

[@Christopher_Gibbons]

Thank you for being comprehensive, everybody else reviewing streaming services seems to have forgotten that PlayStation now exists.

[@samysnes]

Rocket League players: *Linustechtips joins the game* Linus' teammates: enjoy the loss guys!

[@BespokeCarpentry]

Jokes on everyone, stadia is the only way to reliably run cyberpunk other than pc.

[@con1019]

if you have 10 gig internet

[@con1019]

@Hellow *20 gig internet

[@eric-iustin]

Nah, geforce now is better

[@ProGamerKF]

@@con1019 answer from a person that never played stadia, you don't need do highs speed, I can have a 1gb speed but can play easily 4k with 200mb and can with much lower speeds... In normal country, that is not like a 3 world country that's speeds it's the normal in every house

[@jamesgerber4658]

Shadow PC.

[@impulsed6monyt64]

1:19 wrong I use it on my fire tv side loaded apk and wrong again you can play GeForce now for free but for 1 hour sessions but you can go right back on but yeah there’s a paid version

[@LionheartTM]

Yup

[@callgrl]

punctuation

[@Teknoist]

I try with my Mi box /miboxs and firetv stick work perfectly

[@aryagupta3174]

Bro link please??

[@helplmchoking]

Yeah and you can enjoy a queue of 400+ other free users, tried to get on this afternoon and I waited for 4 hours before giving up. And the paid tier has been “sold out” for months

[@TammoHP]

would have loved to see you guys cover "Shadow" its a streaming service that lets you literally use their servers as your PC. Its just simply your Windows far far away. Personally use it and games are great on it. played darksouls and sekiro on it and it worked perfectly fine

[@nat2r]

It's odd that Linus didn't cover it as he did a whole sponsored video on it where he flew out to their data center

[@TammoHP]

@@nat2r imo it only makes sense and is really weird that he didnt

[@TheRageCommenter]

So some company gets access to all your data on their servers because you’re too lazy to actually get your own decent pc?

[@TammoHP]

The Rage Commenter they cant acces your cloud PC. they give your the resources but all the setup stuff is privat to you. also its not about being "too lazy" for some people its simply more affordable to have a cloud pc for 15$/m then investing in a highend PC around 2000$ at once. so they are not lazy - they just dont have the money. also its insanely good to have acces to your pc anywhere - even from your smartphone.

[@TammoHP]

you might argze that its abit ignorant to believe that they cant acces my data.. and thats right, somehow they probably could. but seriously, google has allready all our data anyway. using google drive is essentially exactly the same in terms of security. so yeah i have nothing to hide. if you are doing some illegal stuff you probably shouldnt get a cloud service anyway

[@sheatues]

you didn't talk about Shadow, the leaders in this domain.

[@allothernameswherealreadytaken]

Yeah! I agree. Shadow crushes the other services I performance, and also, you own your games. Strange that they didn’t even mention them since they have talked about shadow previously.

[@wooboo156]

Is it available in Canada?

[@sheatues]

@@wooboo156 yes, check their website

[@TheNinjacanadian]

@@sheatues i dont think it is as someone from Canada

[@MikeeHun]

@sheatues you can't be the leader if you only available in NA, they also didn't mention a lot of services. btw parsec is the leader for a while now imho.

[@OneMindNoLimit]

The boys humming along to the 'Halo' theme made my day. Thank you

[@SpeedyCraft51]

surprised Shadow is not in this video since it's essentially a whole pc being streamed to you

[@espurrjelly]

Thats what i was thinking. And linus did a walkthrough of their labs a while back. Not gonna lie been using shadow for 2 years now its great. And i habe 100mbs (notMBs)no issue at all no artifacts or anything very little delay almost 30ms and that is virtuaLly unseeable

[@ALiveGeek]

Also use shadow, its good 85% of the time

[@ignaciohavok1]

I have tried them all and shadow is by far the most worth it.

[@PampQueen]

I was just about to mention shadow, my brother uses it until I can afford to get him a gaming laptop, I have a fully custom built desktop

[@CaptainGunSkill]

@@espurrjelly is shadow your main ? Or

[@MrXaniss]

This is a big thing in my opinion, while I like at least 60fps (I use 144hz anyway), my biggest problem with low framerate isn't the choppiness, but the input lag. say that you used vsync with 60fps and got like 40ms response times, and then had 30fps without and got 30ms, I'd prefer the lower framerate.

[@MHWGamer]

it just sucks in general. Good luck playing a fast-paced game like a racing game (f1) or anything with a mouse/keyboard. I get motion sickness with a tv with no "gaming low latency mode" even when I play a slow paced game, like something between 50-100ms lag is too much. Stadia was higher if I remember correctly

[@MrXaniss]

@@MHWGamer I actually do simrace with a wheel lol, i don't ever have to worry about low frames as i got a beast pc, but like I say, input lag is worse in my opinion, of course they usually come at the same time as each other, so this is irrelevant anyway lol

[@Matpermad]

It depends. On bad monitors, assasins creed is unplayable without vsync

[@MrXaniss]

@@Matpermad that's generally the game, not the monitor

[@ArkaynAdrian]

"conclusion" LOL! I love literal translations.

[@TurtleSauceGaming]

i don't understand how google managed to fuck up what nvidia already did. Google has more resources. This, of course, excludes the management of it (Needing to buy all your games from them at full price, regardless of age, needing to buy it with their controller, etc) but the underlying systems. I know it's not simple to host a cloud gaming service, but it seems like google went about it their own way and got a worse result than NVidia, something that shouldn't have happened.

[@matteshoe]

0:50 I really wanted to see where that convo was going

[@hailahong3021]

Challenge: use gaming services with VPN on.

[@Tymon0000]

send internet packets through post mail

[@thwind]

With Stadia I didn't see any difference VPN on or off. Occasional stutters with both. I did use close by vpn-servers though.

[@An-t-u]

@@Tymon0000 That caught me off guard, lol.

[@teddygoboom1]

Meh, PIA is giving me 97ms right now. It'd probably be equivalent to a console paired with a bad TV. In other words not even noticable if you're already using stadia lol Edit: through LTE

[@lennrd5912]

@@thwind said the casual gamer.

[@MKVD]

I've had absolutely no issues with Stadia, being able to play during a holiday by just taking a chromecast and a phone with you.

[@McSlay642]

Same here! It works great for me, and my internet is pretty bad (10 mb/s). It's simple, functional, and cheaper than building a PC

[@graym5374]

@@McSlay642 heh youre calling your internet bad ! i have 0.6mb/s am from algeria worst country in this world

[@jidar]

some people just can't tell.

[@linuxpirate]

They gave Stadia a totally biased view here. Using two of the worst games to showcase the potential. The Division 2 or Doom Eternal would have been so much better. They seem to grasp it with "GFN is just a gaming rig in the cloud" but fail to grasp that Stadia is a platform. It's elastic. Growing. Improving. The technology behind it is impressive. It works. Game Streaming works. GFN is NOT easier to use.

[@RicTone]

Same here. Stadia is great. PC guys are always very biased.

[@vutthefrog8871]

I use GeForce now it’s great but you must have a good internet or you will experience terrible pixelation , noise cutting out and game freezing

[@tibettenballs4962]

how about seaman off the ship? do they swim to the tibbetn bawlz?

[@gamechip06]

I mean, its the same with any streaming service, I have stadia and can confirm that the same thing happens here.

[@good-tn9sr]

@@gamechip06 yea but Stadia is more optimized

[@milleratron4580]

Linus made a video on a streaming service called shadow a few years ago and I haven't had any problems with it. Very Very low latency and great performance.

[@Liliquan]

Too bad most of the games are published by the DNC

[@ZeroFlowww]

Source please?

[@madman21779]

​@@ZeroFlowww kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnO0ZZWOg8l4h6s I personally question the results of video just based on that didn't seem like they did testing outside optimal conditions

[@milleratron4580]

Your right but at the time and now I don’t have enough money to spend on a gaming pc so this was the next best choice. And I run a Ethernet cable into my old computer and it runs great. When it gets really late then I start to see issues but during the day. It’s awesome. No Regrets.

[@madman21779]

@@milleratron4580 I dont question that it works I would just like to see the results of the testing I personally have a really good pc with 2070 rtx and 32 ram etc. So it's more curiosity and potential friends being able to use it and more reasonable due to them not being really pc master race people

[@akshat9731]

Runs pretty well on our internet. Has a 10 Gigabit connection.

[@chetanaik]

Runs pretty well on my 50 Mbps connection too.

[@bigredone1030]

does it work good on 32kb/sec dial up

[@danyalsayyedmohammedhussai8160]

@@bigredone1030 That's overkill, I think 5 kbs should suffice

[@FreebirthBoccara]

why didnt you show off shadow? i used shadow for a short while when my GPU melted due to a random mod in fallout 4 of all things.... i didnt have the cash for a decent replacement on hand so i paid the 20 bucks or whatever a month and saved up and got a 2080ti. going with shadow meant that i could play all of my games from either pc (sans a GPU) or from my laptop or other devices. and didnt have to rush to buy a midrange card that i knew i wouldnt want to keep around. wasting money because of a short term need.

[@helplmchoking]

Freebirth boccara uh I literally just went to Shadow’s site and it only has preorders, earliest date I could use it is “July 2020”. My guess is it wasn’t shown because there’s no access for new users

[@Nadzap]

@@helplmchoking yea they release it geographically as they get more servers in various areas

[@notTerabyte]

GPU melting? send pics

[@helplmchoking]

@@Nadzap I figured as much, sounds the same as what Nvidia is doing (although at least Shadow gives some kind of ETA!!). I couldn't find a region that'd let me sign up like right now, but I may have missed like a random US state or something

[@MHWGamer]

what a parkour move here: from not having the cash to buying a 1200+€ graphics card, literally the most expensive "explicit gaming" card

[@nikozg2091]

this dudes camera is better than my mirror

[@mmarkokljaicc9562]

i guess you dont know crap about cameras😂

[@Kirby5588]

You forgot shadow, parsec, and rainway. For in home streaming parsec and rainway are amazing

[@JCowdigital]

I personally use Shadow for hours everyday. I love it.

[@TheJohnboyhunter]

You forgot these things that no one has ever heard of.

[@Kirby5588]

@@TheJohnboyhunter those are some of the most popular cloud streaming services. And parsec and rainway are both FREE.

[@JCowdigital]

@@TheJohnboyhunter LTT did a video on Shadow...

[@landi87]

@@TheJohnboyhunter if you never heard of them, you are basiccaly just totally out of business ... Shadow is THE one and only cloud gaming service available, becaus it just eliminiates nearly all of the contras of cloud gaming, because you get a full featured windows 10 pc in the cloud and can do anything with it, from gaming to office or even 3d rendering, video editing, photoshop, .. you can use every gaming estore .... whatever you like ... its windows 10 ... and its getting quadro rtx 6000 with 24GB GDDR6 VRam, 32GB Ram, 1GBit Internet Connection, .... so enough power for all kinds of users ...

[@GerardoBuenrostro]

15:37 he should test a brighter map. I'm no expert at all, but I wold like to know if the compression for streaming works differently in a dark image against a brighter one.

[@user-bf5sc8pn8x]

During the Geforce Now beta, trying to build a pylon in Starcraft 2 would cause the stream's framerate to drop to around 1. Nothing else I tested would cause it.

[@eideticex]

Video tends to be easier for brighter scenes. I used to spend a lot of time with the x264 encoder to transcode videos into a more compact format, it was a serious challenge not losing out on dark detail but bright scenes were easy to dial in settings for.

[@FazedInferno]

Eidetic Ex I second this^. The map Linus chose was actually probably a good (close to)worst case scenario.

[@GerardoBuenrostro]

Maybe Linus should think doing a more scientific testing in a video. Might the result change with different encodings and bitreates?

[@garethhanna9173]

You left out Shadow Gaming, by far the best cloud gaming service in my experience. A full Windows gaming pc in the cloud on which you can install anything, no blocked games like Geforce. The little guys always get forgotten about, which is a shame as they have the best business model.

[@CallanElliott]

Apparently it's not available in Canada.

[@TC-tn9tb]

Shadow is really good but in super high demand, I have temp boost but my friend can't get it till July.

[@jasonh1498]

Yeah but do you need access to an entire computer? The answer would probably be sometimes, because it sounds like you can use any game client you want, or just outright install it. But if it becomes popular enough, what is to stop game developers looking at Shadow Gaming the same way it does GeForce, and just blacklist them as well?

[@landi87]

@@jasonh1498 Shadow is the biggest of all cloud gaming services with over 70.000 customers right now in many countrys. its just not that offensive kind of pr like you know google does e.g ... buts its huge and its in contact with all publishers to make this possible. The even managed to be whitelisted for blizzards vm ban detection, so players wont get banned from wow or so by using shadow, so no problem here ...and yes, you can use every launcher, like you do on your pc, because IT IS a pc :)

[@tonyhalasohoris6545]

shadow is fine until its not, the devs have no idea how to fix any of the issues they are having and simply restart your service making you wait another 3 to 4weeks for another start. also the worst customer service in the industry.

[@AndyOpaleckych]

3:20 "CACHE CACHE CACHE" I laughed more than I should've :D

[@budthecyborg4575]

12:27 This is probably considered an "Old People" moment by the yung'uns.

[@tomwhiteley6051]

every generation should know the halo theme

[@aaronwilbanks7920]

I’m 20 does that mean I’m old having grown up with this? Lol

[@budthecyborg4575]

@@aaronwilbanks7920 According to all the kids playing Fortnite, there's practically no difference between you and Linus.

[@dexgaming6394]

It's most likely that you have to try these streaming services by yourself, because the actual servers could be close or far away. The distances causes more latency, and/or compression than others

[@piotrkrolikowski9335]

he mentioned this at the end of the video.

[@erikharring7928]

If people watch the video they will know this, it is mentioned...

[@Mergatroid]

I've been using GeForce Now since relatively early in the beta, and since the start it's worked basically flawlessly for me. I have a decent gaming PC at home, but at my school they didn't have GeForce Now blocked and I had no lag issues running things even on the school WiFi (100-ish mbps down, 20-ish up most of the time)

[@landonblazer3417]

That's insanely fast for school wifi

[@tgt773]

Mines like 300 down and 200 up, but alot of things are blocked

[@efp722]

he looks so uncomfortable holding a controller lol

[@SewerShark]

"You can lose your sword." Clearly, Linus is not old enough to remember the original Samurai Shodown.

[@Hakkar]

I still prefer the old NEOGEO ones. VICTOLY!

[@marche0127]

Linus - *Picks Haohmaru* "I'm going to pick Ryu"

[@1stLuis]

That was exactly what I was thinking at that moment...

[@rofhima13]

Linus: "Conclusion, haha" Samurai Shodown IV: "VICTOLY!!"

[@JamesLAllen]

You didn’t test Shadow or Parsec. Shadow is very good imho, I play everywhere - living room, upstairs office, my MacBook Pro, iPad, etc.

[@NecrotoxicG]

I have been using GeForce NOW and I can honestly say that I see no difference in image quality or latency compared to playing on a local machine. The things I like the most about it is that I do not have to upgrade my GPU and I can still play all modern AAA games with RTX on and max settings. My PC is basically not doing anything except for streaming a video and therefore I don't need fancy cooling, the PC stays quiet, there's much less dust build-up because the fans never spin with high RPMs and obviously it draws way less power. It's awesome and I can even play on my old laptop from 2012. But there are very serious issues with the availability of games and that is the biggest deal-breaker. A lot of games that I would like to play are not available on the service. GTA, Read Dead, Horizon Zero Dawn, just to name a few. And the games that are on the list can easily be pulled in the future if the developers decide to do so. And because of this you still need to spend money on a personal gaming rig because you can never be sure if the upcoming games you'll want to play will be on the service, or if the games you're currently playing won't be suddenly removed.

[@JuanJC3D]

I got to Cloud gaming in 2020, specifically GFN, then did PSNow and Xcloud. Right now Stadia is my go-to, but I have all of them -- in fact, I'm writing from my Shadow Boost PC, lol

[@CyberCPU]

I can't wait until someone makes a Linux client for one of these services. It will be a game changer for Linux.

[@grandnoodlelite]

Can't you use Stadia on linux with a chrome browser?

[@RandomNoob]

Stadia already works on linux from day 1

[@CyberCPU]

@Jurassic Mindset that's actually a great idea. Not sure how well it will work though. I know Photoshop is even choppy in virtualbox. Will have to try it.

[@soldierscaptain6026]

It sure will be a GAME changer.

[@JohnDoe-ef3xe]

One of the services not mentioned here, Shadow, does have a Linux client. And gives you a full Windows machine to run other Windows software you might need.

[@tipoomaster]

Destiny absolutely did mess up the HDR, even on local play on a set that other HDR games look great on

[@tahsin28]

All he needed to do was change black level in the TV settings frm Hi to low instead of misinforming thousands of viewers

[@chlorophyllphile]

@@tahsin28 That shouldn't be necessary, should it? Doesn't it make more sense for black levels to be on high in HDR mode?

[@tahsin28]

@@chlorophyllphileIn short: 10bit colour output is preferred in hdr, which (at 4k) doesn't allow high black level. 8bit 4k hdr Does allow. Only pg27uq n few other monitors support both together. It's unknown what video output settings the stadia has, but the tv auto detected the wrong rgb range (aka Black level)

[@zacharyfriend7803]

I'm a huge fan, currently building my first pc based on your videos! Wish me luck! Comment number 7

[@raawesome3851]

Good luck.

[@Epic_Aviation]

Good luck! :) I'd say LTT helped me a lot when building my PC.

[@ghitaandrei2990]

Good luck on your build, I also built mine based on this chanel and it turned out just perfect. Send us a link to a photo or something when you finish it!

[@luisantos1996]

good luck mate

[@matheusosa]

Good luck man! You got it!

[@Ricardordz11]

10:05 "Give them time, if Google doesn't cut this program like they do all their other ones it may end up being good some day" Feb/01/2021 Google shuts down Stadia development studios

[@gamechip06]

Just for clarification, if some are confused, it just means that they're not making first party games, stadia is still running and updates make it faster and more reliable than before.

[@stonalisa3729]

@@gamechip06 Third party won't be enough to justify switching from another platform

[@gamechip06]

@@stonalisa3729 I never said that, I said that google will not make games, they didn't cut stadia off.

[@ImTakingYouToFlavorTown]

@@stonalisa3729 I only use stadia to check out bright dust items for the week in destiny 2, even when I went to a friends house who had 5G and I wasn't getting kicked off stadia for poor connection it still felt like slightly off, missing shots I could've hit on console or on PC, destiny 2 being one of the few free games is just a bad choice, its a fast paced FPS that is always online so you are also dragging other people down when you have that latency, turn based games are what should be played on it for anyone sensitive to latency.

[@at9670]

@@ImTakingYouToFlavorTown holy hell, my 100mbps connection works damn fine, guess im lucky then

[@AlecLeigh]

What about that Shadow Game streaming service you did a video about a while ago? They are so underrated.

[@Johnox90]

maybe cus for the most part no one new can even buy into it since most of the countrys have a 4+ month waiting time.

[@aelooser]

I used shadow since September 2018 in Germany. Now it’s so bad on performance. My GTX 1060 with a Xeon w3680 is much faster than my current shadow vm. So I can’t recommend it for now

[@marche0127]

Linus - "I'm going to pick Ryu" *Picks Haohmaru* *SNK fans raging in the background*

[@Modern-Nerds]

"Save a Horse, Ride a Tesla" Clever.

[@dracothedraconian]

a good bonus to the PS now system is that for PS4 games that are on there you can download them onto the ps4 itself to play without worrying about your net. i think some ps2 games can be downloaded as well but ps3 games are online exclusive.

[@sacha8416]

Shadow my fellow gamers. Even on my crappy connection, but good ping, it work great for me 10/10.

[@BudgieandAviaryBirds]

Yup shadow was awesome when I tried it

[@ArcaneVortex]

Yep. 100% Shadow

[@PortfolioPL]

Recording this at a staff member’s house with average internet would have made a lot more sense.

[@Ebalosus]

Or someone on ADSL, VDSL, or cable.

[@PortfolioPL]

@@Ebalosus Also 4G since they are talking about phones as well.

[@Minecraftrok999]

No, no and no. If you have "average" subpar internet don't subscribe to any of these services, it is not meant for you then. Neither is it meant to work over 4g that's a ludicrous idea and any and all latency issues would be completely on you, not the streaming service.

[@magentasound_]

Yeah definitely not, we don't need a 15 min video to know that this won't work with average internet

[@KobaCrawls]

@@Minecraftrok999 Stadia works on 4g with just as impressive results as when I'm at home on my WiFi, so perhaps Gforce and x cloud would too. I don't know if an entire video would be needed but to say none of the services would work is just plain wrong as I know for a fact one does.

[@sgtmaggi]

"as a casual controller player that isn't a difference maker" I'd like to disagree tbh

[@Matt-sc6gg]

0:53 bruh he has the guts to admit that

[@hashkeks8471]

Could you guys try out Shadow. It is a Cloud Gaming Service where you get a VM with Windows 10 on it and you can do with it what ever you want. There are three types of thiers but now only the lowest thier is avaiable but the other two will be activated at gegin 2021 so maybe you could show it because in my opinion it is really cool and just not enough people that know it.

[@Schartin]

Hi i have the lowest type from shadow you can ask me anything if you like.

[@theignorantphilosopher4855]

Sure there's hope, provided of course that the datacenter is located in my backyard.

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

and that you're directly connected to it. like some kind of local system

[@theignorantphilosopher4855]

@@NonsensicalSpudz Naturally.

[@alt572]

A regional service would be most realistic. The datacenter needs to be within a few hundred miles in order for it to be a good experience. Trying to game on a machine that's on the other side of the atlantic won't work very well.

[@theignorantphilosopher4855]

@@alt572 It very much depend on the game. In fact when it comes to latency, distance isn't necessarily the most important factor, but distance is the factor we can actually do something about, without stability being negatively impacted, thus I need the data center to be located in my backyard. Well, not me personally, as I don't play any game that has such requirements, in fact, I don't really game all that much.

[@MindBlowerWTF]

@@alt572 yeah, but they will focus on wrong market annnnd its gone. I can see it happening in South America, Africa. Or if new gen consoles end up being just a streaming device then maybe rest of the world.

[@Mondoblasto0]

12:13 "Duh-duh-duh da, duh-duh-duh da..."

[@watts320]

There is hope for XCloud. I love it even in Beta. It plays so well.

[@SuperHitman55]

Not for games like Yakuza

[@jawspon7070]

@@SuperHitman55 the shie yakuza 😳

[@SuperHitman55]

@@jawspon7070 What?