Is There ANY Hope of Saving California's Great America? BUY or SELL Episode 7

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[@Splater765]

Calling Six Flags’s period from 1999-2003 as “the drunken years” is genius

[@SeanGrossICT]

That cracked me up too! Finance department: “We really don’t have the mon-“ SF: (slurring) “BUILD IT!”

[@brandoncole5533]

I mean that's the way I would describe it 🤣🤣🤣 Swinging their dick around everywhere and making huge investments and then a few years later regretting it greatly and sacrificing a few things😭🤣🤣🤣

[@ThemeParkCrazy]

From what I can tell, the park had some of the lower attendance numbers in the Cedar Fair chain. And since its not only in the middle of Silicon Valley, but literally right next to Levi Stadium, the land is worth over twice as much as Astroworld's land was (adjusted for inflation). Its always sad to see a park shut down (I would be devastated if this was my home park), but there is at least a plausible explanation for it. And if it helps Cedar Fair with their debt, it will beneficial to the other parks in the chain. For those wondering about Michigan's Adventure, the land in Santa Clara is worth a lot more than the land in the outskirts of Muskegon, Michigan. Also, Michigan's Adventure is essential to the local economy. Compared to Santa Clara and the Bay Area, there aren't really any major destinations in Muskegon. And don't worry about Knott's. They have been around for a lot longer than CGA and have survived this long with Disneyland down the street.

[@grobble8954]

"...the land is worth twice as much as Astroworld's land was." Way more than twice as much, Astroland's plot sold for 77M vs CGA's 310M

[@ThemeParkCrazy]

@@grobble8954 I edited the comment. Six Flags initially expected to make twice that ammount.

[@AirtimeThrills]

@@ThemeParkCrazy you get a little closer to half if you factor in inflation since 2005

[@xavierwalko4175]

Buy Or Sell: Bandai Namco builds a new park over Six Flags New Orleans. I've been doing this sience Episode 1

[@carysage]

I just watched a news clip from the mayor of Santa Clara. She said CGA is vital to the local economy. She also publicly invited Prologis to share their future plans for the sight. There may be a bit of hope here... She worked at the park when she was younger, and reminded us all that CGAs land is zoned as an amusement park and the city has to approve a zoning change.

[@SlipMaker]

Whenever people speculate about Disney building a major thrill coaster, you have to keep something in mind: Disney doesn’t mess with lockers, bins, or leaving things on the platform. Every ride in the park has to be safe to bring your bags on to keep those crowds moving.

[@MattMcIrvin]

Which makes it kind of remarkable that they even have, say, Rock 'n' Roller Coaster.

[@AirtimeThrills]

@@MattMcIrvin can you bring your bag onto Rock N Roller Coaster?

[@patrickfraleyjr2819]

You do have a point. That’s a good thing to remember with Disney and their thrill rides.

[@2hoots1cup]

I believe the new Tron coaster will have free lockers for loose articles due to the design of the coaster.

[@MrDisneyguy]

@@AirtimeThrills actually you can, you just have to put the bag under t Your legs… or in my case… also insert my legs through and around the back back straps like a pretzel

[@Apiem1]

Buy Or Sell: The next major area in Magic Mountain to get overhauled is the top of the mountain with the installation of a major new rollercoaster, possibly replacing Ninja or Superman. Bonus points if Ninja gets replaced with an Axis Coaster. Seriously, axis coaster on mountain terrain, I can't be the only one thinking that has amazing potential.

[@SuperAwesomeness64]

There was a recent statement from the mayor of Santa Clara and apparently the city was made unaware of the deal CF made with Prologis, and it sounds like the city's gonna try to put up a fight to save the park. So there is always hope.

[@josecastro2332]

The city is the only saving grace right now as the land is still zoned for theme park use only at the moment.

[@overbanked]

Do you think there's a possibility that the CF/Prologis contract could've been done illegally?

[@SuperAwesomeness64]

@@overbanked Maybe. I have no doubt the city is going to investigate this and try to intervene. I wouldn't be surprised if they threw in a lawsuit over this.

[@nathanlopez5667]

The City of Santa Clara loves the park they already saved it back in 1985 when Marriott sold off the two Great America parks

[@shadycharacter94]

If only the city didn't allow the stadium to be built CGA might have expanded, got that hyper and be looking at nothing but a bright future. But that stadium screwed what the park could have been and it's been nothing but a hassle since.

[@beachboysswiftie]

I’m so damn sad about cga closing. I go all the time and have been a season pass holder for 5+ years, I’ve made so many great memories there throughout my life so the park is very special to me as a San Jose native. I genuinely hope by some miracle that it can be saved but I’m doubtful. I can’t believe I’m gonna lose my beloved home park forever😭😭

[@SigmondonYoutube]

That sucks 😭😭

[@Zrj19]

Santa Clara wants that land to stay an amusement park, the mayor even said it as of now, that land stays as an amusement park, so keep your hopes up

[@zacharyyamashita8554]

@@Zrj19 I am.

[@Ryzohm0141]

Same 😭

[@adamfirst6019]

Buy Or Sell: A major park will add or remove a large coaster within the next 20 years (Yes for legal purposes this is a joke, keep up the awesome videos!)

[@will4486]

Buy or sell: someone will blatantly misread this joke and start an internet flame war within the next 24 hours

[@ruscaliso]

@@will4486 Buy

[@AirtimeThrills]

If that's a sell then something went very very wrong with the matrix

[@ruscaliso]

@@AirtimeThrills lol

[@coasterhockygamingboy9549]

“For legal purposes” uh what

[@shadycharacter94]

"Disney moves the competition, not the other way around." If this was 20 years ago I'd agree. Universal caught Disney sleeping big time when they built Hogsmeade in 2010. They went from 6 million guests at IOA in 2009 to 8 million in its opening year and that attendance increase only got bigger with the opening of Diagon Ally just a few short years later. That's when you saw Disney finally counter and build Pandora and Galaxy's Edge. With Universal currently setting insane record numbers and the way Disney has been cheapening their experience and canceling numerous previously announced additions, the opening of Epic Universe is going to be a major wake up call for them if they keep down this path. Bob Chapek has shown a lack of interest in investing in the parks and focusing on services like Disney+. With him just announced continuing as CEO for the next 3 years the near future is not looking bright for their parks.

[@poorwillis]

I miss the magic

[@ninjagirl226]

100% agree. Disney is chasing Universal now. Disney may not think so but they are. Hogsmeade changed everything, and I believe that Velocicoaster and Hagrids have the potential to do the same due to the insanely positive feedback. I mean WDW's newest rides are either really similar to a Universal ride (Guardians coaster looks a lot like Gringotts to me), is a cloned attraction (Tron) or a reskin (Mission Breakout or Princess and the Frog log flume), or is not very good (Runaway Railway). Right now, Disney is not being very consumer-friendly; everyone hates the reservation system yet the rumor is they will expand it and the Genie +/Lightning Lane system is also hated. But we'll see how Epic Universe turns out. Super Mario World looks great in Japan, but I heard Mario Kart isn't that good, but they might be able to perfect it by the time it hits the states (but at least they tried something new so hats off for trying).

[@MyNameIsEarl42]

the more crowded disney gets, the more they can charge. they'll build hotels way before parks. each of the florida properties have room to expand, but they almost always replace anyway. Universal absolutely caught them drifting on momentum, and we can only hope that epic universe causes a 5th dry gate at disney orlando. but with chapek still at the wheel, "um, how about charging for standing space? can we charge them for air?"

[@ninjagirl226]

@@MyNameIsEarl42 It's a struggle to get Disney to make a new ride even though they have the room and need the added capacity. Look at Epcot there are several expansion pads in the world showcase, and you have the abandoned pavilion (that may or may not become the play pavilion we don't know if it will happen anymore). Instead, they close the Universe of Energy and put in Guardians and ax the Mary Poppins expansion. But what do I know? Disney is making profit, so they probably don't see a need to do anything until Universal makes a major move that threatens their profit line.

[@codenameu.arctos3747]

Disney's theme parks are currently sitting duck's. Yes, they are unique but Universal and Knotts have both competed successfully for years with universal really pushing Disney for the last decade. Based on ticket sales and such Universal in Florida is giving WDW a major run for its money. it will be interesting to see what happens to Disney's parks over the next year or so especially after the CEO is ousted.

[@clevelandcbi]

Indiana Beach was dead and buried. One of my Cleveland teams won a chip (Cavs 2016) before I died. *THERE'S ALWAYS HOPE!!!*

[@katherinedileo4053]

The closure of CGA is a huge loss for the Bay Area. There will never be another large park with easy access for South Bay residents. I get Cedar Fair finding the cash attractive, but the market has plenty of folks that need something family-friendly to do. It seems short-sighted to close the door on all the growth potential that was there at CGA.

[@AirtimeThrills]

Just seems like they've had it out for this park since they got it

[@robertpolk9910]

They were landlocked with incredibly high labor costs and state taxes, what growth potential was there?

[@katherinedileo4053]

@@robertpolk9910 You are absolutely right, those are certainly huge hurdles. At the same time, there is a lot of money in the bay area and a lot of families wouldn't blink if all the prices went up by 50%. And this is certainly a stretch, but add a few more world class rides and a hotel and it could have been like Knotts.

[@katherinedileo4053]

@@AirtimeThrills perhaps. But there was reason for optimism. There was a lot of infrastructure investment (restrooms, paths ect) that don't have high ROI but show a commitment to the future. To me, pulling the plug on the park was shocking

[@davidrivera9743]

Buy or Sell: Will Northern California get a new amusement park before the lease runs out? $300 million can buy a lot of acres at a different location where suburbia isn't as big a problem. Ideal scenario is move what is being kept of CGA somewhere within site of interstate 5 about two hours of either side of Sacramento.

[@mellud23]

Buy or sell, Six flags will be the first park chain to open an S&S AXIS

[@sqoomsh]

RMC has worked in Canada. They put topper track on Monstre :)

[@garcsstuff6734]

Buy or Sell: The new Vekoma STC fails to get off the ground due to most potential buyers already having a B&M invert or an SLC already

[@The8BitNerd]

I think valley fair will eventually get a hand me down from CGA when they finally pull the plug.

[@spilledmilk4801]

Hopefully the invert.

[@JCBro-yg8vd]

Michigan's Adventure probably deserves one better, even just something small scale.

[@beachboysswiftie]

@@spilledmilk4801 yeah hopefully flight deck doesn’t get scrapped. I can see how it would make a good fit at valley fair. It’s such a solid ride, super fast and intense, honestly my favorite at CGA. I can’t believe it’s gonna eventually leave cga, I can’t believe the park’s gonna close :(

[@MarsJenkar]

@@beachboysswiftie The one problem with that idea is that Flight Deck is a terrain coaster, and even though Valleyfair does have some terrain to work with, there's no guarantee that it'll be the right kind of terrain.

[@amazingart201]

That will then restart the twenty year gap between coasters it seems like

[@coyote_bravo2723]

Probably my favorite series on the channel. I like to hear the opinions on coaster theories. P.S. Buy Or Sell: X2 gets some tlc or a retracking within the next decade to improve ride experience.

[@MattMcIrvin]

Buy or sell: the only CGA coaster to survive the park's closing will be Railblazer.

[@chrisjamesracing]

I think patriot has some life left

[@thomasxl200]

Buy or sell: especially given the recent news with the Bat, the Arrow suspended will be down to one model or totally gone within 10 years.

[@JCBro-yg8vd]

I don't think the model will shrink by that much, I could see Iron Dragon closing at Cedar Point and Vortex at Canada's Wonderland closing within the next decade, and maybe Ninja at Six Flags Magic Mountain.

[@thomasxl200]

@@JCBro-yg8vd TBF that's almost all of them...

[@reillywalker195]

@@thomasxl200 Indeed. That'd leave _Vampire_ at Chessington World of Adventures as the only Arrow suspended operating.

[@thomasxl200]

@Arrow Dynamics Inc. I hope you're right, being the die hard Arrow fan that I am. But given how quickly Kings Island just threw away Vortex, I'm not too optimistic.

[@MrHawkeye41]

Buy Or Sell: With GCA closing Six Flags Discovery Kingdom will see increased investment, and they will slowly phase out animal attractions to make room for more thrill rides. I was just there this week and it already feels like they have been shrinking down and not maintaining animal attractions over the years. The back part of the park where the animals are was pretty much deserted. I was basically the only guest back there, albeit it was on a pretty slow weekday.

[@doctorPuffin]

Buy or sell: Michigan’s adventure will get a relocation coaster from CGA

[@reillywalker195]

I'd bet on _Patriot_ since it seems like the best fit.

[@oliverduck22]

@@reillywalker195 Probably but I’m still really hoping for rail blazer

[@TSwany]

@@oliverduck22 Railblazer to MA is a pipe dream. Patriot, while old, will either go to Valleyfair or MA, if it is to be relocated st all, which I'd hope.

[@coastercordell2172]

Buy or sell (Don't have to do all, just select the one(s) you're most interested): 1. Instead of the Raptor, Wild Water West will get a coaster no taller than there tallest Water Slide (65 feet) 2. by 2037, Either Arnold's Park closes for good or gets a Larson Loop/Splat-O-Sphere size power tower (preferably to replace that random playground set) 3. Adventureland (IA) gets 3+ Coasters by 2030 (with one being a kids coaster they definitely don't have) 4. The Underground at Adventureland gets removed by 2030 (preferably to get a new coaster) 5. see 4, but for the random circus at the park 6. Adventureland will put a coaster on there campgrounds by 2030

[@billofwrights7695]

Nothing to do with Lost Island?? That park has tons of potential!

[@Shag471]

Kinda have to disagree about Disney “moving the competition and not the other way around.” Both Pandora and Galaxy’s Edge was reactionary to Wizarding World and Galaxy and Tron is a reaction to Hagrids and Velocicoaster. Universal can announce, build and open an entire attraction in 2 years compared to Disney’s 5 to 7 years. It will be interesting to see how Disney reacts when Epic Universe opens.

[@michaelmouse1638]

Tron was announced before even Hagrid's was announced. The fact that it could be potentially considered a reaction to Velocicoaster is embarrassing on Disney's part for taking this long to construct it

[@Shag471]

@@michaelmouse1638 …especially since it’s a clone of an attraction they’ve already built.

[@GerstlauianLoops]

Buy or Sell: The new B&M stand up going to SeaWorld Orlando will be the only new generation B&M stand up to be built.

[@koves17]

Buy or Sell: Cedar Point will close Top Thrill Dragster and get B&M to build the first strata coaster with a lift hill and break the length record

[@Queue_Thrills]

That’d be the only way I’d support them taking it down without some sort of goodbye rides/goodbye season.

[@Queue_Thrills]

Speaking of, there are comments on other videos with links to leave feedback for cedar point. Go there and let’s give them a piece of our minds on TTD’s potential removal! I think the comments I saw were in some of Theme Park Prediction’s videos.

[@sshawauthor4583]

This or a 500-foot T. rex. That’s the only way I won’t riot (as much) about Dragster getting removed.

[@ballshd68419]

Buy or sell: we won’t see any other properties purchased by cedar fair, and even see their smaller parks sold so they can fully focus on KI, KD, CW, CP, KBF, and carowinds

[@oliverduck22]

It’d be cool if Michigan’s Adventure got bought by Hershend to finally give it the love it deserves

[@WsWWCE]

It would probably be a sell unless VF was added. Valley Fair is in the name of Cedar Fair.

[@ballshd68419]

@@WsWWCE ya

[@grobble8954]

@@oliverduck22 MIA gets what it gets b/c of it's financials, demographics, market, etc... Hershend would not pour money into it, KK Kingdom is a better market & they have done little their & have shown no real long term plan. Some parks are what they are & get or don't get stuff for a reason, their market & financials.

[@oliverduck22]

@@grobble8954 Yeah I understand but u don’t even know how to spell pour

[@HHPYEPIC42]

Buy or sell: one of the small cedar fair parks gets railblazer from cga when it closes

[@sterospa]

Kumba will be around for quite a while. Look at the lochness monster at bg Williamsburg. That arrow is from 1977. They will keep Kumba going.

[@AirtimeThrills]

Every coaster model has a different lifespan though, and it since B&M is only 32 years old we are just barely running into the first issues with their longevity. Hulk cycling 3 trains 365 days a year only took what...17 years to tear itself apart? You gotta think Kumba is going to have the same issues in a year round park and being 6 years older, probably just with fewer cycles

[@michaellyga4726]

I love these videos. They create so much comment interaction. Keep pumping them out. Anyways here are my three Buy or sell: GADV gets a launch coaster for its 50th anniversary Buy or sell: Europe finally gets a real giga (sorry red force) in the next five years Buy or sell: Unless something radical happens, Formula Rossa’s speed record is never beaten again.

[@rixrobin]

I would argue that Guardians of the galaxy is Disney’s most thrilling coaster, but thats more-so due to the lack of other thrill coasters in the chain.

[@Soonjai]

Buy or Sell: Because CGA has to close in a couple of years, either Michigan´s Adventure or Valleyfair will receive the Railblazer as a replacement for their aging Arrow Corkscrew.

[@that21pilotsfan9]

Buy or Sell: At Cedar Point, Top Thrill Dragster will permanently close and be taken down after the 2022 season. In the coming years, it will be replaced by Rail Blazer or another relocation from California’s Great America. TTD has always been maintenance hell for the park and the unfortunate accident last year did not help matters. Since Cedar Fair is known to completely spoil CP with coasters, I think this is likely especially after dropping WT and potentially Dragster as mentioned above from their coaster lineup.

[@falloutfan6649]

A lot of us were surprised when we saw Wicked Twister get scrapped instead of moved to CGA after seeing that they planned to add an Impulse. Now it all makes sense. Cedar Fair was probably negotiating the sale last year and knew there was no sense in moving Wicked Twister anymore so they figured just scrap it

[@SigmondonYoutube]

True

[@michael9cats812]

Buy or sell: Worlds of Fun gets a new coaster for their 50th anniversary but removes something else in the park

[@themeparksrock]

As far as wonderlands entrance goes, I think it’s getting replaced asap. It gets swamped every morning with 30+ minute waits almost no matter the day or weather. With the way attendance has been this year I would give it 2025 at the latest.

[@andressantamarina569]

Buy or sell: Cedar fair will close one of their smaller parks due to debt in the next 15 years

[@coreymason7017]

I might rethink selling the Busch gardens giga. They just announced they’re gonna be using the boneyard area behind festhaus for development. This would give a coaster like drachen fire a lot more room to have a full circuit . Especially after the family coaster going in darkastle.

[@CoasterHipster]

Another example of a park replacing a wooden coaster with another better woodie is Efteling. Joris and the Draak is arguably a much more dynamic dueling coaster than Pegasus, a hastily made short Intamin wooden coaster.

[@TheSportingSpectrum]

Buy or Sell: Silver Dollar City’s next major coaster is the worlds first ever RMC T-Rex coaster

[@dindog22]

I think Cedar Fair will move some of Great America's coasters to Michigan's Adventure and Valley Fair. as far as the Dragster accident, I don't see that as the fault of Intimin. that ride operated for 17 years without hurting anyone. it's a maintenance issue

[@cameronbeaver6725]

Please 😢 I'm moving to Rochester Mn this January and I'm a little mortified that I'm going from carowinds to Valleyfair. It'll still be fun, sure. But not the same. Probably just take the 5 hour drive to Chicago for 6 flags, honestly.

[@AdamSmith-gs2dv]

Cedar Fair did reduced maintenance in 2021 on purpose because of how little they operated in 2020. That's why this incident happened if they performed standard maintenance it wouldn't have happened

[@whitneythatcher]

@@cameronbeaver6725 I moved from Illinois to Minnesota 8 years ago and still make the drive down to my home to go to great america. I finally got around to visiting valleyfair and it was fun. The short lines were a breath of fresh air and none of the rides are necessarily bad (except excalibur, that was extremely painful). Definitely not an allday type of park, but you can get tons of rerides and renegade is amazing. Go on a weekday, it's a walk on all day. Also, if it's a hot summer day, take advantage of being able to easily go between the waterpark and the dry park.

[@henryski5917]

You should make top ten pre-lift

[@clevelandcbi]

Why has a major amusement park never been built near Phoenix. There is literally nothing within 300 miles of a city with a 5 million people metropolitan area.

[@therock238360]

Does castles and coasters count?

[@kingpiniv]

Summer months is when most people are looking to travel and go to theme parks. 100+ degree dry heat days are going to cause big problems for a theme park

[@nv_spartan1771]

It's too hot. Can you imagine having to work ride ops there?

[@rustyshacklefordrefined5756]

Because there’s nothing in Arizona other than a few big cities and a giant hole.

[@overbanked]

A PHX park would have to be indoors.

[@JCBro-yg8vd]

Probably not if it's a land deal. Unless property values take a major nosedive by the time the deal is closed, I doubt there's much of a chance for the park to be saved.

[@michaellyga4726]

#ThoosiesCrashTheHousingMarket2022

[@AirtimeThrills]

Or if the government gets involved

[@puppy7B]

Buy or Sell: A new manufacturer of rides will open within the next decade (like rmc)

[@brucemiller64]

Buy Or Sell: Cedar Fair will add 3 new coasters, going to Cedar Point, Carowinds & Kings Island, going with the parks patterns.

[@brendancherasard]

Thanks for getting to my question!! Loved your opinion

[@OakViewFilms]

BUY OR SELL: SFMM will retire either Viper or Ninja by 2030.

[@brandongordon2392]

Thank you for answer my question... but I agree with you about Valleyfair, it makes me mad but I want it really bad. Now I ask: Buy or Sell, American Eagle conversion at Six Flags: Great America

[@jimgoebel5348]

SFGAm has been saying on their fb page lately that they're not going to convert the eagle to an RMC. I think they're bluffing

[@whitneythatcher]

@@jimgoebel5348 they've been mentioning it way too much for it to not be a bluff. I'm thinking something is in the works but won't happen until the parks 50 year anniversary. So another 4 years, which would be a good time frame if they end up getting rid of buccaneer battle this season, which is what it's looking like, and putting something there.

[@Cheese2026.]

Buy or Sell WoF will install a new or relocated coaster for 2023 for Project 50 and their 50th anniversary.

[@drewashley5078]

Buy or Sell: Kentucky Kingdom will expand onto the plot of land behind T3 where the abandoned bird aviary show building currently sits, and they will build a new coaster, or even a whole new themed area with restaurants, a coaster, and flat rides.

[@RedSlayerRides]

But or Sell: Valleyvair does get their B&M invert from California’s Great America (flight deck)

[@heks128]

I don't want to offend anyone's home park but valley fair or Michigan's adventure are only going to be getting a big brother's hand-me-down clothes from great America at best if it's anytime soon would be my prediction but you never know and it's just my guess.

[@gabrieldally6044]

Buy or sell: Universal will greatly expand their Hollywood park, similar to Universal Orlando

[@coastingthrills7297]

They are very land locked and on the side of a mountain. I don’t know how they would do it well

[@micycles1200]

I'm sure eventually a new ride will pop up behind Transformers and Mummy, but a huge expansion or a large, outdoor coaster? Definitely not.

[@gabrieldally6044]

@@coastingthrills7297 I know, but they could purchase the nearby golf course, it's over 100 acres

[@coastingthrills7297]

@@gabrieldally6044 it depends on if the golf course is willing to sell

[@gabrieldally6044]

@@coastingthrills7297 very true

[@Tristan-ps1yl]

I hope that parks like Valley Fair and Michigans Adventure will get at least a ride transferred from California’s Great Adventure, Michigans adventure needs a longer steel family coaster, it fits Cedar points vision for the park as well.

[@aidanomalley8521]

Buy or sell: Six Flags New England will get a launched S&S axis coaster within 5 years

[@greyroom6730]

I think there are still chances to save Great America. The city will put up a fight against it. In terms of theme park history, there's a lot of important pieces here. The park isn't what it was in its heyday with Yankee Harbor and Yukon Territory....but they still have a few Arrow attractions and a VR101 Skyway and the Carousel... those things are really important. My hope is that another company buys it and keeps it as a theme park....idk...even if they reduced the footprint a bit to make it more cohesive...

[@zacharyyamashita8554]

When the time comes, just like in 1985, the City is gonna do everything they can to save the park.

[@JakeTerch]

Buy or Sell: If removed, Top Thrill Dragster will be replaced by a B&M on its plot of land.

[@JCBro-yg8vd]

Cedar Fair seems big on B&M right now, but what could B&M offer Cedar Point that wouldn't make two of their biggest coasters redundant?

[@JakeTerch]

@@JCBro-yg8vdgood point, a Surf Coaster? Or a giga-twister would be insane if it’d fit in the plot. Or imagine if they did a launched B&M of some kind.

[@JCBro-yg8vd]

@@JakeTerch What sort of launches does B&M typically use? Intamin was big on hyradulic launches and before that the big thing was LIM launches, which had lots of problems.

[@JakeTerch]

@@JCBro-yg8vd the Hulk does a tire drive launch, and Thunderbird is an LSM launch.

[@MacRay14]

Assuming CGA really closes, i hope that a couple of their rides get sold/moved to SFDK so that they at least stay in the region.

[@NightDragon01]

SFDK doesn't have much land left. The only ride I can see going there (assuming Kong / Boomerang don't get scrapped) is Railblazer, but that's definitely getting relocated inside the Cedar Fair chain.

[@MacRay14]

@@NightDragon01 I actually think they'll have more land coming available fairly soon. They're getting rid of a lot of the animal exhibits. I mean, no more elephants alone frees up quite a bit of land. But yeah, unfortunately you're probably right on rail blazer

[@AirtimeThrills]

I really cant see any coasters getting sold to six flags but rides, perhaps

[@MacRay14]

@@AirtimeThrills yeah, you're probably right. Just me dreaming since SFDK is the closest park to me.

[@pearldiver19]

Buy or Sell: Hersheypark replaces Skyrush’s trains with updated trains that include more comfortable/reasonable restraints within the next 5 years?

[@fgzero331]

Buy or Sell: The first axis coaster in North America will go to SFOG, and it will be a launch variant

[@VinceHere98]

I considered a B&M Invert or Wing coaster for T3’s replacement because the park needs a new B&M after their only one, a Stand-up named Chang, was shipped off to Great Adventure after Six Flags ditched Kentucky Kingdom. I know Banshee at Kings Island and Thunderbird at Holiday World are not too far from Kentucky Kingdom, but then again, Hersheypark, Great Adventure, and Dorney Park, all of 3 which have B&M Inverts (Great Bear, Batman The Ride, and Talon), are not too far from each-other, so that’s why I thought it was still safe for Kentucky Kingdom to replace their POS Vekoma SLC with a B&M Invert or Wing.

[@history_leisure]

Buy or Sell: Bayou Beach in Louisiana will either become a Sesame Place or IB Park in the near future Buy or Sell: Cedar Fair will either invest more into World of Fun's loose "Around the World in 80 Days" theme or sell to someone who will

[@overbanked]

I would say a possible buy for Bayou Beach being a IB park, but hard sell concerning Sesame Place

[@sdaniel9129]

Greetings from the Netherlands! Kondaa is my number 3 coaster, Taron is my number 2 and Untamed is my number 1 ;-) So I do think many American parks will get an Intamin mega coaster!

[@bradpeakmtbbro]

Buy or Sell: Magic Mountain gets a giga in the next 5 to compete with knotts

[@colinirwin5600]

I don't want gold striker scrapped. 3:12 and as you said in the parody, the launch is like being shot out of a gun

[@elitelord5350]

9:19 ohh the irony of you saying that and showing Galaxy’s Edge

[@overbanked]

Swampwater Snake is the same coaster that Wild Adv had in storage from when it was named Fiesta Express years ago.

[@AirtimeThrills]

I admit i did not know that til now

[@GHRock0708]

Buy or Sell: the next time you make one of these videos. Another big announcement will happen. You made one the weeks of the sea world offer, the dragster closing for the season, and the CGA announcement. Also thank you for the awesome videos.

[@charleybartelmay5469]

Buy or sell: Valley Fair, Michigan's Adventure, and World's of Fun all received at least one relocated coaster from CGA

[@seanmce8132]

That's a half sell, most of the coasters there are 30+ years old and reaching the end of their service life. Unless a thorough inspection can guarantee about 10 more years of service life, they would probably scrap them. Older rides usually only get refurbished if it's cost efficient, and the GP demand the ride be saved.

[@clairefunnell8481]

As for the new entrance for Wonderland, there are markers everywhere at the front, the grassy part where Leviathans turn is. I'd like to see Rmc at Wonderland. Maybe Wildebeast. I don't want to say this but if Wonderland removes Minebuster for a water park expansion. Buy or sell?

[@CoasterKy]

Buy or Sell: We will see a full Titan Track coaster in the next few years.

[@ChiefScarneck]

Tampa getting a Giga could definitely be in the cards. My friend and I attended the ACE Spring Conference at Busch Gardens Tampa this last May and my friend asked Neil Thurman (park president) of what kind of coaster he wishes to get for the park and responded with "There's this kind of coaster that starts with a G..." And while of course he couldn't give away anything, the park is very interested in getting a B&M Giga sometime in the future, and may be a good prediction for a park other than a Cedar Fair park to get a Giga.

[@enviixity]

Buy or Sell: Worlds of Fun's new coaster will make gci Tinton track become successful and will install more than 3 in 15 years.

[@backrowproductions1608]

Buy or sell: Kings Island removes the bat after the accident

[@entity7339]

They wouldn't dare

[@ItzChoco]

Pls god no

[@backrowproductions1608]

@@ItzChoco yea as my home park and one of my first coasters it’ll be sad to see it go once it does

[@JCBro-yg8vd]

I doubt it. It's not a high profile one and they have options to repair it.

[@X2tream_Arrow]

I bet you they bring “The Bat” name back again in some form

[@ilikepie123rs]

Buy or sell: Cedar Fair will start expanding Worlds of fun and adding new large attractions. Kansas City is experiencing great growth and is starting to get into a similar place that Charlotte was a decade ago. Cedar Fair will recognize that and pick up where they left off in the mid 2000s with that park.

[@markdillenburg6207]

Buy or sell: SF great Americas next coaster will either be a rmc raptor or B&M dive

[@crybabygeorge198]

I absolutely love this series! Here’s some of my ideas! Buy or sell: SFGA’s next coaster will be a dual launched coaster themed to a DC character Buy or sell: S&S will not make anymore free spins Buy or Sell: The next giga will go to Busch Gardens Tampa Bay Buy or Sell: Mall of America will go bankrupt and Nickelodeon universe will permanently closed Hope you use some of my ideas in your video!

[@corkscrewfoley]

Canada's Wonderland has said that they can build an RMC, but if they're going to do it, it'll be a ground-up. Honestly, I find the ground-ups more fascinating anyway.

[@brianscotpatterson2101]

I think Michigan's Adventure is a prime candidate to get a ride from California's Great Adventure. If it were Railblazer, that could drive attendance exponentially.

[@Soonjai]

I could totally see Michigan´s Adenture getting Railblazer as a replacement for their Corkscrew. The ride is already over 40 years old as is and Railblazer should be able to fit on that plot of Land.

[@AirtimeThrills]

@@Soonjai that would be an amazing front of the park replacement

[@Red_Ryan_Red]

For some reason I think they will keep everything status quo.

[@gemmachaos]

The problem with MA is that it's too damn close to CP and Cedar Fair doesn't want it to compete with their flagship park. Nevertheless... would a small raptor be so much to ask? Surely these things are common enough now that they won't drive the CP crowd away?

[@grobble8954]

WOF & VF are better markets & demographics thus likely higher in the pecking order for Railblazer. Dorney is also better however GAdv also has a Raptor so they might not want to put a small model vs the bigger, though the smaller model is actually a better/intense ride.

[@danielvanpatter7989]

Buy or Sell -- Cedar Fair will get rid of or move Canada's wonderland, flight deck and time warp especially since they already removed Kingswood theatre. Maybe put in a B and M invert or Mack rides launch like copperhead strike.

[@coolmamo]

Buy or Sell: Six flags Discovery Kingdom will add a big new ride as California's Great America is phased out

[@Wesley-76]

Buy or sell: Invertigo gets relocated, not scrapped Please Cedar Fair, that ride is lots of fun and would be awesome with new trains

[@MagnusTheGreat]

It is absolutely savable. The park has been saved before by the city and can be saved again. The zoning would have to be changed to do anything with the park and the city WILL not let them do this. Prologis would likely sell the land as it useless to them to a prospecting amusement company, such as six flags, busch, merlin, SeaWorld or anyone that wants to get it. I have a lot of hope

[@Asc3nded]

Buy or sell: judge roy scream at sfot gets the RMC treatment. I think it would be cool to have the first RMC and a new one

[@DawsonsMemes]

Can we all agree the carousel Colombia is probably the most beautiful ride ever created

[@coasterknowledge1982]

Buy or sell Dorney park will get one of CGA coasters. Goldstriker where dinosaurs alive used to be or rail blazer where stinger used to be. They keep possessed as well

[@jzckvsn]

Buy or Sell: Discovery Kingdom will remove Kong for a wooden coaster

[@motorwayt-s628]

Idk about the Kumba one, BGT is retracking Shiekra like it’s a wood coaster so they could do the same to Kumba

[@Alovon]

BUY or SELL: Most Vecoma SLCs will be retracted/replaced by 2035. Pretty much every SLC even now has a reputation of being TOO rough for comfort which likely will be not good for the long run over the next decade. And with how Vecoma has a very minor presence stateside atm support for them may be limited considering the status SLCs have at parks that use them. This also goes to a lesser extent to Vecoma Boomerang coasters.

[@ATNProductions82]

I won’t share a lot of detail but the COO of RMC was the keynote speaker at the coaster con banquet and he said something along the lines of “we have no issues working in Canada”

[@ehum160]

Buy or Sell: Worlds of Fun will get a new coaster within the next 3 years

[@Lucky_9705]

I think that Kumba has about 5-10 years left. Given B&M’s reliability and the ride’s overall popularity, I think that Busch Gardens Tampa should keep the ride running for as long as they can.

[@craft7185]

Buy or Sell: Adventureland (Iowa) will get some kind of launch coaster before the end of the decade.

[@FizzerTheRanter]

Buy or Sell: Given that Zambezi Zinger is a success and a reliable addition to Worlds of Fun, Kings Island receives an extreme GCI titan track coaster in the future. This could serve the purpose of differentiating it from the _other_ hybrid coaster in Ohio.

[@TJ85234]

Buy or sell: mack rides designs a 150ft multiple launch coaster for vortex land at kings island opening in 2024

[@xavierwalko4175]

Buy Or Sell: Bandai Namco builds a new park over Six Flags New Orleans. I've been doing this sience Episode 1

[@GoldChicken824]

Buy Or Sell: Michigan's Adventure will get a new coaster within the next 20 years

[@derekpaterson3422]

Buy or Sell: If/When CGA closes, Flight Deck gets relocated to Valleyfair and Patriot to Michigan's Adventure.

[@sky_glizzy]

Won’t happen considering flight deck was a terrain coaster and the lake at the end was a big part of the ride

[@derekpaterson3422]

@@sky_glizzy B&M can always fabricate new supports the the helix will still be great without the lake

[@JSInOrbit]

Would love to see you buy or sell "theme park predictions and more" cuz that would be an interesting if u collaborated or just got permission to respond too especially with CGA closing and CF drama high ;)

[@Prisimbtw]

Buy or Sell: If Viper at Magic Mountain gets removed it will be an Intamin launch or Mega Coaster. (P.s. if this does happen I would like to see it still be red and still have the name Viper)

[@SigmondonYoutube]

I wouldn’t bet on a intamin. I would bet on a dive coaster or a giant axis coaster

[@Prisimbtw]

@@SigmondonKZbin Oooooh I havent thought about that, that sounds more realistic

[@furyousbaco325]

Buy or Sell: Knoebels next coaster will be a Gravity Group family coaster that they receive by 2026.

[@ev7d167]

If Fuji Q closes Do-DoDonpa, that’s gonna take lots away from their attendance. Fuji Q is my home park, and the lines have been at their all time low, which could be the result of Do-Dodonpa being closed. Also Do-dodonpa is insanely reliable, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen it break down, and it can run in the rain.