IS THERE ANY SKILL TO POST SCORING IN NBA 2K25?

[@mr.clorox8198]

One thing that I don't hear people complain about is their damn recovery animations. These guys can miss twice in the paint and be the first ones to react to the Miss before your defender can even recover from the initial contest if you miss a close shot as a postcore, you don't deserve a hyper aggressive recovery animation

[@itzzay2034]

me and my boys been talking about this since the game came out IF YOU MISS ANY SHOT YOU SHOULDNT REACT FASTER OR BETTER THAN THE PERSON PLAYING GOOD DEFENSE. but 🤷🏽‍♂️ game is ass and offensive rebounds have been more overpowered then defensive rebounds for years they don’t know what they’re doing when cooking up these games!

[@renatoefdv]

That also applies to blocking, you get a block and 80% of the time the offense gets the ball faster !!!

[@perfectpraxiss3559]

And steals your myplayer will poke the ball or and not go for it ??

[@santito3674]

The balance should be that if u played good d the opponent should fall to the ground every time.

[@Wannashineiwannaball]

fr, ive had so many times where i put my hands up against a shooter and they end up getting the board first because i decided to defend them instead of just letting them shoot open...

[@LaMartyMar]

Untimed tight shots going in… being able to backdown players with Legend immovable and Legend post lockdown… getting 24 seconds to get inside 3pt area and then you don’t lose adrenaline, just stamina on backdowns (regardless of the bump)…. Most shots register as open. *paint defense and post offense is the worse it has ever been*

[@donqueriousgreenway3757]

yeah everything in the paint this year is some loony tunes shi

[@sammie16508]

Anything not 5v5 has basically devolved into post scoring this year. It's so unfun.

[@ticlutch1449]

It’s bc playing on guards isn’t as fun this year especially when you don’t have full control over your jump shot and the dribbling feels sluggish

[@pepitoblue8761]

@@ticlutch1449people have started to figure out how to speed boost and just utilize dribbling better so small guards are getting faster and more skillful. By next month I expect there to be more 6’2 guards roaming around shooting fadeaway 32m 3s again (hope not cuz it’s just as cringe as dropstep only scoring).

[@PrinceSmith-s3n]

@@ticlutch1449 how fast do yaw need to dribble if dam near every shot taken says open lol.

[@donlinthorne8175]

They have to remove real player % from the online part of the game.

[@xojoshx]

There is no real player timing online there’s only real players timing for layups

[@MrFutureOlympian]

@@xojoshxthat’s still real player timing lol

[@MrFutureOlympian]

Been saying this since the implemented it, it’s so dumb to allow ppl to not time their shots in PvP game modes… it should also be Green or Miss, whites should not be going on

[@xojoshx]

@@MrFutureOlympian so what yours saying is back in 2k13-17 an all the older 2ks where it didn’t matter if we timed it or not if it was wide open we should miss that layup?

[@MrFutureOlympian]

@@xojoshx No I’m saying if you’re going to implement timing then it should be based on such. Those games didn’t give you an option to Time or not time your shots… big difference

[@kiwisportsmage]

Awesome analysis. I think it requires more skill then dribbling behind the back behind screens to be honest. True post scorers who can fade, hop step, and spin have much more skill then behind the back hiding behind screen players

[@Wannashineiwannaball]

1% of post scorers are true post scorers bro wtf u talking bout😂😂, a true post scorer has always been the rarest build in 2k

[@Wannashineiwannaball]

hiding behind screens doesnt take that much more skill but its definitely harder trying to dribble against a really good defender while tryin to dribble right and look for a shot... post scoring slows the game down alot and u dont have to make any split second decisions, u can just post up and spin until u get open its simple

[@DonDeLem]

Unpopular opinion but I think post scoring has always required skill. A casual can't just hop on the game and start post fading on everybody. You need to know when you should post fade/hook/slash, you need to know which side you should initiate a move on, you need to know who you can push and who you can't, etc. Of course if you're going against a guard or even a big with very low defense, you're gonna be destroying them. That's how it should be. You put your stats towards a certain aspect in your build so that should work out. You really shouldn't be guarded by a smaller player anyway and if you are, they also have the advantage on the offensive end because they're gonna be faster than you.

[@ozzydwyer]

Facts

[@ijudgetakes]

I 100% agree.

[@flashflames2848]

yeah it takes skill to post fade or post hook but it doesnt take any skill to drop step and close-shot in the paint which is what most post builds do, back you down and drop-step. last year it was standing meter dunks

[@Wannashineiwannaball]

i can guarantee you 99% of ppl dont think that much when they play 2k wtf are u talking about... most ppl are just gonna post up and move the stick around until they spin and pass the defender LOL, hitting a lot of post hooks and nice fades are different but almost nobody does that ESPECIALLY on this 2k...

[@charliebanks605]

If you post fade or hook you just stuntin honestly because the spin and drop step are insanely strong. Any casual that picks up a high post rating build can/will spin or drop step their way into easy buckets especially if they go against anything besides defensive build with someone who understands the games post mechanics.

[@kenneth9338]

7’0 with 88 interior defense 96 strength max wingspan and people with lower strength still just back you down drop step and lay the ball up or dunk on you like your not there

[@taylormiccio1973]

The close fade is so cheesy 2k needs to fix that. In terms of post scoring. The only reason you see so many of them is bc shooting is the hardest it’s been since 2k21 current gen. If people could consistently shoot like last year you wouldn’t see so many post scores… but because most players aren’t making more than 2-3 jump shots in a row. Post scores don’t have to play d and can sit in the paint and wait for the inevitable mis..

[@joeypupillo5210]

Been dropped off by dudes abusing the post close shot fades. My build has 82 interior, 93 strength and 94 perim. Dudes are greening reds for 22 straight. Such a fun gaming experience, thank you 2k🎉

[@iTROLLxTHExTROLLZ]

😂😂😭😭

[@thatoneguy1741]

Yeah that 82 interior ain’t stopping a pure post at all 😂

[@lahkooky504westside3]

​@@thatoneguy1741 i was finna type something similar. If he is running around with an 82 interior he deserves to get dropped off

[@cozyjae388]

What you're referring to is a glitch I believe. The problem is you think an 82 interior is supposed to stop 99 post ratings though. Doesn't make sense. You don't even get gold post lockdown and you expect to stop hof and legendary post moves.

[@Wannashineiwannaball]

93 strength with 82 interior is disgusting bro wtf💀 then the random 94 perimeter

[@sideshowdom5933]

Wanna bet it’s not really the post scores that’s the problem but the overall contest system needs to be revamped!

[@zeddicuss1325]

Hell no just make your build with interior d and make him heavy and you’ll be good if you wanna guard that stuff do that

[@IceManD3]

@@zeddicuss1325that doesn’t work. Ive seen ppl green tight contested close shot fades over 90+ interior d. The game is just broken

[@ItsNOMETA]

There are a bunch of variables to this topic but what is being displayed the most in this video by most of the opponents is a lack of knowledge and awareness to play proper defense on a playstyle like mashing. Now with most decent post scorers in 2k25 the mashing playstyle is dead the meta is close shot post fades which is the most consistent field goal in the game right now…

[@REDLRKULOUS]

This I gotta hear lol

[@javongreen2515]

It really depends imo it can but it doesn’t help that the things that would really lead to a good skill gap like the step through animations the post up and under transitions etc have all been horrible for years.

[@ijudgetakes]

Laker, imo masters were better in 2k24 then they were in 2k25. The dunk meter is absolute trash now and it's much harder for inside posy scorers to get a bucket. Really and truthfully, it's real player percent being way too strong in today's game. That close shot stuff is gonna get taken out the game (hopefully) but not timing layups is honestly the only skillful thing about insides, and this is coming from an inside of 24 and 25. Making a balanced inside takes skill. One that can run rec and has pass acc and can guard paint is respectable. Post scorers on one's and 2's imo take a very limited amount of skill. Not timing layups should never be this strong.

[@crippledlegendx]

My thing is what this rhythm shooting if it’s this overpowered for post scorin.. if someone gets into the lab with a high three ball and starts learning how to hit contested shots from deep that would be even more broken than the post scoring

[@Bul1ytv]

It’s not possible bro lol trust me. I have a 99 3 all legend shooting badges and still shoot 5/7 from 3 consistently even wide open. 2k has definitely found a way to end 3 hunting how it was

[@McBlick]

High post takes skills, the Kobe Bryant style play is skill for sure. I can easily make a build that stops the low post

[@renatoefdv]

I have never felt this frustrated while playing a game, it feels so broken, so bad, the lack of animation blending and no skill finishings wtf!

[@zeddicuss1325]

This game is a dream when it comes to interior defense do you not remember 2k22? Just get better make your build right

[@bfudge18]

This needs a patch. Making the game very unplayable rn. Got ppl thinking they good at the game for putting up whatever they want and not rewarding the defender for playing Great defense. The fact that ppl can make very early tights or very early yellows is so sad.

[@kuruptzZz]

Not when they do the unguardable close fade. Hands up defense does nothing against it, so your only hope is to jump perfectly...except the fade is much faster, so you literally have to guess. With high strength and gold post lock down, I can defend most other post moves

[@bradshortland6169]

Stopping the dropsteps and paint scoring also involves no skill. Either you have really high interior and everything just misses and you don’t even have to play good defence, or you dont have high enough interior and everything just goes in no matter how good your defence was

[@The0nlyy]

It’s almost like interior D rating matters 🤯

[@bradshortland6169]

@@The0nlyy yeah clearly it matters. But ratings should not matter more than what actually happens on the court. Like your positioning and the actual defence you play should be the most important thing, instead of just whether you have the rating very high or not. That’s what a skill gap is and this game doesn’t have much of one

[@aidanhulings2967]

I play ones on a build with 80s interior and perimeter. If u have the perimeter I def recommend trying to press them off the inbound pass. U can get good pickup bumps cuz they’re slow and I promise they aren’t spinning off u from the 3 line

[@aidanhulings2967]

Ik ur build have ball handle n driving dunk but a lot of these mashers don’t

[@eimajsolomon4151]

I think it does take skills on both defense and offense. It’s not that difficult to mashing you just literally have to have good balance between interior defense and strength to stop a good post scorer or a masher. Hof post lockdown gives a masher hell a actual good post scorer will at least have counters if they can’t mash

[@xterno500]

the fact that they have realistic fg % layups in online mode is ridiculous.

[@mathewsargent1668]

There’s a difference to what you’re talking about vs what’s actually going on. People are just holding L2 and backing all the way up to the backer just to close shot glitch.

[@NelCatter]

Would u go any lower on the strength for that player? Like 80 still gets u silver post powerhouse and lets you have BBQ chicken takeover do you think thats viable for a 6’10 with 87 post control?

[@aMADreses]

I feel like you shouldnt be able to post fade from inside the paint to the point where youre in the restricted area or past the block

[@Who_am_I_to_judge1]

Played a post scorer in the rec and he dropped me off the first quarter but then he started shooting threes and went 1/12😂 there was a reason he’s a post scorer on average they are bad players that want easy baskets for their ego.

[@christopherlyles2326]

Instead of releasing the right stick just hold the right stick down and you’ll play hands up defense without jumping

[@sladeeyyy]

2k20 had the best hands up defense, it had terrible fade defense and chase down defense but paint defense worked there

[@andrewjwhitus]

If it took no skill you’d only win about 50% of your games. Being 72-0 proves it is skilled.

[@DracoWick]

It’s bad when other post scorers can’t even guard other post scorers 🤣

[@dat_one_kid_melo1447]

Hate when I play sf 6’8 and up just posting me up as a 6’4 pg guard Takes no skill only on the defensive end

[@bqproductions7448]

It's because everyone went with the 77 interior D thinking thats all they would need for the badge because paint D has been op for years and now everyone is on here crying that they are getting beasted by dudes with 90+ offensive attributes lol.

[@PraisefatherYah]

Really like these type of videos 💯

[@RookPlaysFPS]

its a problem wheb you can overplay the shoulder and the shooter still greens reds

[@REDLRKULOUS]

I think post scoring takes skill but I’m bias Paint mashing vs post scoring I keep separate. Majority of community don’t make defensive builds to stop a post scorer You proved with high post lock down it was stoppable but how many actually have that. Hurt my soul saying paint mashing took more skill considering they have layup timing off lol Good listen overall though

[@LakerFan]

Nah I never said the mashing took skill? 😂

[@flashflames2848]

they were not getting down enough to the dead zone thats why laker could stop them cos that first guy had 90 interio i think which mean HOF postlock but laker was still able to score on him with 85 post control vs maybe legend poctlock

[@dbeezyyy]

I’m just wondering is there any way to even stop the close shot post cheese ? I could know exactly when they about to do it but I still get no stop just green in my face 😂😂be pmo 88 interior not enough it’s almost like you wasted attributes on it

[@HennyGoed]

Im sorry but I dont know where this conversation even comes from. Obviously when all you do is just dropstepping, yea thats not taking any skill but anything after that takes a lot of skill. I have seen many that are so bad in the post and I have seen many that are just unstoppable. The people that are hating this type of playstyle are the ones who are just spamming the block or steal button on defence and thinking that its good defence

[@djdrake111]

Everyone can do the Post Fade “Glitch” but it actually takes skill to even know how to Post Score and actually know when to do it and having that only as your man move is trash nothin more than that 💯

[@kevin4152]

The thing that i’m wondering is (i’m really not sure myself) is it right that if u don’t have really high interior D u can just get bullied in the paint? Because for example i have a 6’10 sf with hof deadeye (or set shot specialist based on how i use the +1) and 92 midrange, but even against a 6’3 guarda with relatively low perimeter D i still have to get open to shoot, ofc maybe i’ll be able to hit a couple of yellows over the small guard (so i can SOMETIMES get away with more risky shots) but if i don’t get open i won’t consistently green over the defender even if smaller with low perimeter. On the other hand a post score can get u to the paint and shoot over u brainlessly if u don’t have intention D in the high 80s, are those 2 dynamics balanced in the same way? I’m curious to see someone respond because i’m wondering myself if it’s a correct correlation

[@Wannashineiwannaball]

ur jumpshot is definitely garbage cuz almost every shot is open in this game bro ESPECIALLY for big players... if u have a big with over a B+ jumpshot height then every shot is gonna be open

[@Wannashineiwannaball]

also use the max +1 for set shot, it's infinitely better than deadeye because it will almost ALWAYS pop up where as deadeye u gotta be a little contested

[@kakarot81]

Yeah, this makes me not want to play 2K; it is so frustrating. I was going to make a new build, but it seems like a waste of time since it is tough to stop. This is so cheesy.

[@jonjon6422]

Yes sir pass the ball down low to big dog Shaq been dropping 30 pts 20 Rebounds 😊

[@jayjayjam1083]

The post fade glitch is rhythm shooting with the paddles on the back of a X box controller you can program one to be right stick up and the other one to right stick down

[@JeanCJP]

Laker I found the block method let go of turbo and time the block to go for the block or do it early to get pulled into the animation this has me getting blocks from a 68 block 6’5-6’8 84 block try it out non aggressive blocks are the wave

[@bulug]

Wdym by time the block. Ru saying Just predict when they take the shot basically ?

[@dank4068]

Right stick held down negates the jump

[@boogiefrmda4578]

If driving dunk is terrible why nerf standing dunk ???

[@deandrewalker7793]

All imma say is blaqkobra laker literally a whole different class

[@LakerFan]

I’d hope lol. Sad thing is I’m still 85% FG while only knowing how to dropstep and dunk lol

[@deandrewalker7793]

Go watch his KZbin channel for yourself you tell me

[@darioh.7457]

the thing is the game is slow the dribbling is slow movement is slow Shooting is inconsistent = 2 bigs on 2s court aka Post scorers

[@gunitgunit98]

It’s a skill gap to post def how many player know how to pull chair, post push, post transition post steal it’s not just stats u got to know how to do it

[@sammie16508]

Pulling the chair was removed... and steal does jack diddly balls this year without a second player. You can push but then you get burned, you can NOT but then they push you. It's so cheeseable on the offense that you are at a constant disadvantage as the defender unless you cheese.

[@LakerFan]

Yep that was the discussion mostly

[@thaonlydon-7559]

@@sammie16508 they changed it to flicking the RS the same way you getting backed down

[@Wannashineiwannaball]

how many players post hook or even post fade compared to the garbage mfs who spam drop step LOL

[@flashflames2848]

there was never any skill for post scorers its the easiest build to use in the game, just go max height weight and wing span.

[@Br4dL3yxo]

U can defend it tho positioning and timing

[@easymoney313-n7x]

All depends on who your playing

[@zl4660]

those asking for a pure green window there you go

[@nicolaallegrini3224]

Does 79 post control get thee job done on a 6'6 guard?

[@DonDeLem]

As a PG, yes. Might even work as a SG but SGs are more likely to have more defensive capabilities. You get Gold Post Fade Phenom with a 79 so you'll be able to hit those consistently, and you'll definitely be able to post spin a good majority of guards.

[@bluelotus333]

Yup if you know what you doing with the ball

[@bluelotus333]

@@DonDeLem unless you going against a guard with high strength otherwise you going bully most of these guards

[@Wannashineiwannaball]

why tf would u make a post scorer now when they obviously gonna get nerfed... might as well go all out and make a true post scorer so it can still be good when they get nerfed...

[@iTROLLxTHExTROLLZ]

Immovable Enforcer helps with interior defense

[@bulug]

No it does not

[@bulug]

I have it on legend

[@iTROLLxTHExTROLLZ]

@@bulug Yes it does. It pops up a lot every time I get a stop in and around the paint. Especially when Post players are trying to cheese drop steps

[@bulug]

@@iTROLLxTHExTROLLZ yeah it pops up a lot, but doesn’t do anything. Still get backed down like crazy.

[@ForeEaglePar90]

I can’t wait for these post scorers to get patched

[@liamstark1390]

Talking about missing an open and how do you fix that? Uhhhh fuck idk maybe turn timing on and get good at it 🤨🤨🤨

[@LakerFan]

😂 fair enough. People still miss that too, but yea I guess a mistiming

[@samknight4078]

I miss 2k20 post gameplay soo much. The last year it actually made sense. It was a mind game vs 2 good players not just who got the best rng

[@zeddicuss1325]

Last year a 6’6 with interior d could stop a 7’2 post scorer it made no sense

[@loukanjima-bechard7180]

@@zeddicuss1325not if the post scorer knew what he was doing

[@zohfe]

20 definitely didn’t make sense neither lmao

[@JoshuaVerser]

There is skill to it play some one that is good asf at it

[@ghostkariizma7894]

Post lock down on legend and I stil get tossed

[@thav317]

10 seconds in the paint!!!!!!!

[@jcooksey19]

This isn’t post scoring this is spamming 1 or 2 moves takes no skill

[@LakerFan]

Same difference. Lol. If those one or two moves aren’t stoppable. All you’re doing is adding a “respect” and “morals” factor to it

[@Bossman819]

Fire content

[@waff6ix]

YES & NO💯

[@boogiefrmda4578]

Skill gap in everything 🤷🏾‍♂️ definitely yes

[@JERZFLOW201]

Well anything in the 90s has to be o.p WERE TALKING SHAQ when its post ! so they cant change it lerbon had dunking kobe had shooting you cant take away mashing LEAVE IT ALONE SHAQ would kill half the nba in a 1v1

[@JERZFLOW201]

@@Hawley26 exactly my point how is it fair if I pay the same price for the game and upgrade my post now I get nerfed? I can’t shoot 3 or dribble so like it’s my specialty This won’t be fair to post scorers That’s like taking Shaq out the nba because nobody could stop him

[@joeypupillo5210]

I hope you’re not talking about the glitch where you can green close shot fades regardless of the contest………

[@impopped2942]

It should definitely be allowed against build with no interior or strength the problem is where it’s being done against build with very high interior, strength and block this should not be happening consistently. I have a 6’10 build with 96 interior 96 block and 95 strength where I was getting moved like 6’3 guard with no defense. By a post scorer with high 80s post control,less strength, standing dunk and close shot.

[@Wannashineiwannaball]

@@JERZFLOW201shaq didnt spam one move in everyone face... if u thought about what u typed out loud then you'd realize how dumb that is cuz nobody at all is saying to make post scoring trash, if u made ur build in a way to where ur cheesing and exploiting the game then thats ur fault when that build gets nerfed tf... nobody in 25 plays like a true post scorer

[@Anabiosised]

Yep

[@joeypupillo5210]

Why has 2k not patched the close shot fade….. such a shit company

[@iTROLLxTHExTROLLZ]

Probably waiting til Season 2 to drop a huge patch

[@DallasOutkast]

Post💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@ItzNotLeoTf]

Lmfao no 😅it takes no skill to post somebody do post spins and do post fades all day everyday 🚮 worst build ever in 2k

[@bulug]

How is that even fun tho?

[@outlawz38]

Simple answer m... not really

[@soundnarcotics3417]

Its a non skill build

[@merricksmall7349]

No

[@kaycorpz7891]

😂😂😂u funny asl

[@Juandaddy-313]

610 video???

[@obe_green2426]

Post

[@youngmoneyclutch]

post

[@Z71_life]

They need add 3 sec ts trash ngl

[@ExclusiveExcellence]

Bro I could’ve sworn I’ve been hit with 3 seconds before in the ones like it’s unreal

[@Wannashineiwannaball]

there is 3 sec wdym bro...

[@killthecappin5804]

I don’t agree with missing open looks is way 2k is “balancing the game out”. I’d rather get the rebound off the misses like I’m supposed to

[@DaboeMan-Deezle]

yall some cry babies

[@dank4068]

Right stick held down negates the jump